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08:25.40 | *** topic/#gsoc is Welcome to Google Summer of Code 2011!Mentoring organizations are announced: http://goo.gl/VcRUV. Please read the FAQs - http://goo.gl/Up2Qf and the Timeline - http://goo.gl/0lYPz for more info. |
08:25.57 | rahul | Can anyone here help with questions about the new melange UI? |
08:26.14 | |Kev| | You can try, or you can try #melange. |
08:27.42 | sonney2k | In the new melange - how do I find the student application templates? |
08:27.55 | rahul | We were previously directing students to our Application Template on our old Organization page, which has now become a dead link. Our new Organization page does not display the Application Template (though the info is still there). How do students find the application templates? |
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08:28.10 | sonney2k | I see ojwb's anser |
08:28.12 | ojwb | rahul: you can edit the html for your org page, so... |
08:28.16 | sonney2k | answer |
08:28.29 | ojwb | but apparently there another roll out due tomorrow |
08:28.39 | ojwb | see the mail sent about this one... |
08:28.51 | sonney2k | well there is still a field application template in the orga description |
08:29.00 | sonney2k | so I hope it will be put to good use |
08:30.04 | dhaun | the application template will be displayed to students when they fill out their application, hence the name :) |
08:30.53 | rahul | The application template is being used to help students already, and so it was useful to have it displayed as it was previously. |
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08:31.35 | rahul | ojwb: how do it edit the html of the org page? |
08:31.53 | dhaun | I understand that but I have no insight as to why it's not displayed any longer - SRabbelier would know |
08:32.15 | sonney2k | rahul, it is good not to be alone with this :) |
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08:42.58 | Lennie | o hi |
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08:57.47 | Ophiuchi | beauty is in the eye of the beholder .. I think the new socghop page looks better. We'll see if it can avoid looking as cluttered and overwhelming-at-first-sight when all the missing features are added in :) |
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08:59.04 | Lennie | Ophiuchi: It has its charms |
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08:59.10 | Lennie | at least it is 40-60% faster :) |
09:02.29 | ojwb | rahul: it's one of the fields on the form |
09:03.07 | Ophiuchi | if you find something that pleases everybody, you should probably plan for pilgrimages happening to it, because it'd sure be a miracle ;-P |
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09:06.30 | ojwb | rahul: "Description" |
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09:08.55 | rahul | ojwb: thanks, I know that and it does provide a fix. But, most organizations had already filled out the separate Application Template field (in addition to the Description field). Anyhow, I think it should be fixed soon - it appears as issue 1139 (http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1139). |
09:09.17 | Lennie | please star it |
09:09.26 | Lennie | (if you care) |
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09:10.44 | ojwb | rahul: I was just answering the question you asked me: "ojwb: how do it edit the html of the org page?" |
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09:52.20 | Deminem | Hello everybudy! |
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09:52.48 | Deminem | I just want to ask that if someone applying for the postgraduate program and still not get responded from the institution before April 25th, 2011, then would (s)he be eligible to participate in the program by showing his/her undergraduate documents (transcripts and etc) which had been done 2 years back. |
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09:54.34 | |Kev| | You must be enrolled or accepted on the 25th April. |
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09:55.16 | Lennie | I concur with |Kev| |
09:55.44 | dhaun | Google will probably not ask for proof on April 25, so you may be able to provide that later, but the date itself is fixed |
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09:56.30 | Deminem | Okie so it can be asked on later stage and still get some time |
09:56.35 | |Kev| | !eligible |
09:56.35 | socinfo | |Kev|: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
09:56.47 | |Kev| | !timeline |
09:56.47 | socinfo | |Kev|: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
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09:57.42 | |Kev| | So there's not a lot of scope for leaving it until later. |
09:57.49 | trasz | where can I apply to become a mentor? the previous interface said it didn't work, and with the new one i can't find it at all. |
09:58.03 | Lennie | The flow chart is made of win |
09:58.07 | |Kev| | trasz: I don't know, that could be part of the next round of updates (today or tomorrow) |
09:58.48 | Lennie | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 find your org trasz |
09:58.53 | Lennie | and click on it |
09:59.00 | Lennie | you'll see where you need to go from there for now |
09:59.46 | |Kev| | Deminem: Basically, unless the student is already accepted by April 8th, it's going to be at best inconvenient for a bunch of people. |
10:00.21 | |Kev| | So if the student already knows they're accepted, but doesn't have the paperwork yet, that's probably fine (although they'll need to provide it if they're accepted), but applying without knowing they're going ot be accepted isn't the best. |
10:01.22 | Lennie | As the flow chart says, your institution must be able to proof that you were enrolled on the 25th. Which very likely is a letter with university letterhead and signature |
10:01.42 | |Kev| | Lennie: Enrolled or accepted to be enrolled later. |
10:01.59 | |Kev| | Either way, it'll need the Uni to be willing to write a letter saying so. |
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10:05.23 | Deminem | Kev: That's why I'm curious about the April 25th, because I'm not sure that it would be possible to make it before this date but once I'll get enrolled then definitely it will take few business days to request for a letter of evidence. |
10:05.58 | |Kev| | Deminem: If you're not yet accepted, then pretty much wait until next year. |
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10:06.41 | ojwb | if you apply, get a place for this year, and then have to drop out, you'll probably have problems applying in the future |
10:06.58 | |Kev| | If you couldn't provide the docs on time, you'd be likely to a) fail to get any payments b) Cause another student to not be able to have a place c) Disqualify yourself from future programs. |
10:07.02 | |Kev| | At aguess. |
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10:08.03 | ojwb | might be simpler if the qualify dates was just the application deadline date |
10:08.15 | ojwb | though I'm sure anyone turning 18 in mid april would disagree |
10:08.16 | Deminem | But as you said that it's all about time, who knows I will going to make it before April 25. |
10:09.12 | trasz | Lennie: 500 server error. |
10:09.28 | trasz | Lennie: no problems until i clicked 'submit'. ;-) |
10:09.31 | |Kev| | Deminem: By applying, you're claiming that you know that on the 25th you'll either be accepted or enrolled. |
10:09.50 | Lennie | hehe |
10:10.08 | |Kev| | I'd purport that if this isn't the case, it's essentially fraud. |
10:10.17 | Lennie | I take it you google account starts with the letter 'e' trasz ? |
10:10.22 | Lennie | your* |
10:11.23 | trasz | Lennie: yes. |
10:11.33 | Deminem | Yeah I'm pretty sure that I will going to make it, or discuss with mentor org about the issue. |
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10:11.58 | Lennie | trasz: Fixed it locally, you have to wait for a new version to be up should be somewhere later today |
10:12.16 | trasz | Lennie: ok, thanks :-) |
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10:13.22 | Deminem | Kev: Is it possible that i can request the letter of evidence from my former university. |
10:14.05 | |Kev| | Deminem: Will they certify that you're still enrolled there? If so, yes. |
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10:14.55 | Lennie | trasz: np, you'll run into these things in the upcoming weeks. Scaling your userbase from 5 to 10.000 helps finding things :) |
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10:16.00 | ojwb | Deminem: if you aren't still enrolled at the old university on april 25th, that a letter from them isn't going to help |
10:16.18 | ojwb | s/that/then |
10:16.46 | ojwb | Lennie: you could have invited us to break it sooner! |
10:17.00 | Deminem | I'm not sure but looking forward to see how things will work fast for postgraduate program. |
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10:17.44 | Lennie | ojwb: perhaps yes, still doesn't always work out |
10:17.49 | Lennie | anyway, I'm off SRabbelier should be back soon |
10:17.51 | Lennie | to help you out |
10:17.53 | |Kev| | Lennie: Assuming you're Melangish and would like feedback - I like the new version; my only comment (apart from all chance obviously being bad), is that the 'irc' link is a bit unfortunate if your groupchat mechanism of choice isn't IRC. |
10:17.57 | SRabbelier | Lennie: how about now :) |
10:18.04 | Lennie | :) |
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10:18.05 | |Kev| | (e.g. ours is xmpp:jdev@conference.jabber.org?join |
10:18.09 | Lennie | time for me to go travel :P |
10:18.12 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: it's a http link right? |
10:18.18 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: you can make it link to whatever |
10:18.23 | |Kev| | It is. |
10:18.25 | SRabbelier | |Kev|: or just leave it out |
10:18.26 | ojwb | the facebook and twitter links are a bit unfortunate if you use sites other than facebook and twitter |
10:18.34 | ojwb | like, y'know, open source ones |
10:18.38 | |Kev| | The label is a graphic saying "IRC" though :) |
10:18.40 | Lennie | SRabbelier: It should be made a freeform link I'm seeing it doesn't work on our homepage either :P |
10:18.54 | Lennie | irc://irc.freenode.org/melange I guess |
10:18.56 | Lennie | anyway, bye |
10:19.13 | SRabbelier | ah, yeah forgot to update ours |
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10:33.44 | SRabbelier | ojwb: you can make the irc like be "irc://irc.freenode.net/melange" if you want |
10:33.57 | SRabbelier | ojwb: or you can just make it a link to a page on your website, whichever you prefer |
10:34.18 | ojwb | SRabbelier: so the use is correct and the label on the field where you enter it is wrong? |
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10:34.46 | SRabbelier | ojwb: ah, nvm, I see scorche already answered yoru question |
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10:35.14 | ojwb | well, not entirely |
10:35.43 | ojwb | for now i've changed it to be a link, but if it's then used as text, I'll need to change it again |
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10:40.33 | SRabbelier | stumm: thanks for noticing that, the text is now corrected |
10:41.01 | SRabbelier | gangil: thank you! |
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10:41.58 | SRabbelier | Ophiuchi: that will indeed be a challenge |
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10:43.03 | SRabbelier | ojwb: yes, the help text should be update |
10:43.08 | SRabbelier | ojwb: any suggestions as to what it should say? |
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10:45.51 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: uhm, is it intentional that all formating information that was added to the org description is basically gone? |
10:46.07 | Ivanovic | have a look at what eg the wesnoth org description looks like in the new page |
10:46.19 | ojwb | SRabbelier: how about "URL for IRC channel (e.g. irc://irc.freenode.net/melange), URL for web page with details, etc." ? |
10:46.49 | ojwb | and perhaps drop "(and network)" |
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10:48.31 | SRabbelier | ojwb: sounds good |
10:48.42 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: what do you mean? |
10:48.52 | Ivanovic | and this "formating removal" also happened to the application form (at least it seems like) which is, uhm, really problematic considering that e had a *huge* form... |
10:49.06 | Ivanovic | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/wesnoth |
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10:49.24 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: do you see the formating there? |
10:49.36 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: that's the description |
10:49.45 | Ivanovic | it was meant to look more like this: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC_Information_for_Google#Description: |
10:49.59 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: you can put in whatever html you want there |
10:50.51 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: what i was saying is, that in the old editor the result *looked* like what we had on our wiki, in the new one all the stuff is suddenly "not formated at all anymore" |
10:51.07 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: because it's a different field |
10:51.19 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: you were previously looking at the "homepage document" on your homepage |
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10:51.23 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: now it's just the description |
10:51.25 | Ivanovic | but it is using the text that was added there |
10:51.28 | Ivanovic | no, i am not |
10:51.34 | Ivanovic | had exactly the same in both docs! |
10:51.57 | Ivanovic | the homepage doc just had an extra line pointing to the ideas page |
10:51.58 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: no it's not :P |
10:52.03 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/organization/google/gsoc2011/wesnoth |
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10:52.13 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: see the description field |
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10:52.35 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: trust me, i know what i entered in the google application |
10:52.52 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: and this description is exactly what i added as org homepage (extra doc!), too |
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10:53.09 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: ok, let me put it this way, we did not in any way change the contents of those fields |
10:53.11 | Ivanovic | the only change on the extra homepage was that i added a paragraph about the ideas page since otherwise there would be no such link |
10:53.33 | Ivanovic | you have not changed the content but the formating of the content removing all newlines and stuff like this |
10:53.44 | SRabbelier | now |
10:53.46 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/edit/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2011/wesnoth/our_gsoc_homepage |
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10:53.49 | Ivanovic | since, while there was no homepage doc, the description would be shown as homepage |
10:53.53 | SRabbelier | err |
10:53.59 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2011/wesnoth/our_gsoc_homepage |
10:54.00 | MostAwesomeDude | Ah, looks like it's that time of the year again. :3 |
10:54.01 | Ivanovic | "You need to be a program adminstrator to access this page." |
10:54.10 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: yeah, sorry, look at the second one |
10:54.20 | Ivanovic | MostAwesomeDude: exactly |
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10:54.32 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: wait, wait, you are saying only _newlines_ are missing? |
10:54.47 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: it's looking fine but for the newlines? |
10:54.48 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: compare what is there |
10:54.51 | MostAwesomeDude | Ivanovic: Hm? I'm just thinking that I need to start idling in here again. |
10:54.58 | Ivanovic | not just newlines, but *also* newlines |
10:55.02 | MostAwesomeDude | And also that it's time to do the Melange dance again. |
10:55.19 | Ivanovic | IIRC i also did the formating changes to the description box with the list and whatnot stuff |
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10:55.56 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: I've added the content from that document to your description |
10:56.23 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/wesnoth# |
10:56.30 | Ivanovic | ah, thanks |
10:56.49 | Ivanovic | is there a way to see what the students will see as application template? |
10:56.55 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: I know now though, last year we converted newlines in the Description to <brs> |
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10:57.04 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: yeah, I'll add that today I THink |
10:57.09 | Ivanovic | since with the missing newlines the version available on the ord edit page is not userfriendly |
10:57.11 | Ivanovic | ;) |
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10:59.25 | Ivanovic | how are things supposed to work when application time opens tomorrow? i mean regarding "where to see the list of project proposals" and stuff like this? |
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11:03.53 | SRabbelier | Ivanovic: on yout dashboard |
11:04.04 | Ivanovic | SRabbelier: hmm, okay |
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11:35.26 | rrix | How do I add mentors to the new melange? |
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11:36.05 | Nightrose | rrix: you don't yet i think |
11:36.13 | rrix | hum, okie |
11:36.15 | Nightrose | still being worked on |
11:36.19 | rrix | Right on |
11:36.33 | rrix | students will be able to submit, tomorrow, right? ;) |
11:36.42 | rrix | hmm, 4;20 am |
11:36.50 | ojwb | there's another UI rollout tomorrow the mail said |
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11:37.17 | Michitux | I think rather today, but I'm not sure |
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11:37.34 | rrix | Ah, I didn't see any maill |
11:37.46 | rrix | I'm just going to go to sleep before I say more silly things, then :) |
11:37.56 | rrix | I trust google to Make Awesome happen |
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11:38.17 | ojwb | it was to the mentors list |
11:38.25 | ojwb | at least I assume it was |
11:39.03 | ojwb | yes it was: [Announce] New Melange UI launched |
11:39.04 | rrix | Right, it was |
11:39.13 | rrix | doesn't have filter for that list yet |
11:39.14 | marcellu1 | Can anyone give me the link to apply? google-melange was changed yesterday and the link from the mentor organisation is broken. |
11:39.22 | rrix | lol |
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11:39.49 | ojwb | marcellu1: students can't apply yet; mentor signup isn't back yet either |
11:40.05 | rrix | hugs ojwb and climbs in to his bed |
11:40.06 | rrix | good night! |
11:40.15 | ojwb | tucks rrix in |
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11:47.26 | raincole__ | How can I find my link_id? |
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11:53.38 | SRabbelier | ojwb: mentors can apply though |
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11:55.33 | ojwb | SRabbelier: oh, sorry, I must have misinterpreted something someone said earlier |
11:55.58 | SRabbelier | ojwb: they can apply only, the admins just can't see/accept the application |
11:56.36 | ojwb | ok |
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12:01.19 | raincole__ | Where can I find my LinkID? I forget it. |
12:03.53 | raincole__ | I can't see the "My Profile" and "My dashboard" on the left side of GsoC page |
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12:07.15 | gremmachook | Is the dashboard option after logging in available for students? |
12:07.33 | SRabbelier | gremmachook: sure |
12:08.02 | gremmachook | SRabbelier, Where do you have to register? I don't see it. I logged into the melange site using my GMail. |
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12:08.24 | SRabbelier | gremmachook: studen'ts can't apply/register yet |
12:08.27 | SRabbelier | gremmachook: that's tomorrow |
12:08.28 | SRabbelier | !timeline |
12:08.29 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/0lYPz |
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12:08.51 | gremmachook | SRabbelier, I understand, but can you see the link atleast? |
12:08.55 | SRabbelier | !forget timeline |
12:08.56 | socinfo | SRabbelier: The operation succeeded. |
12:08.59 | SRabbelier | !learn timeline as http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
12:08.59 | socinfo | SRabbelier: The operation succeeded. |
12:08.59 | gremmachook | For students that is. |
12:09.21 | SRabbelier | gremmachook: what link do you mean? |
12:09.29 | gremmachook | The Dashboard one. |
12:09.30 | raincole__ | "My Dashboard" |
12:09.38 | mcfossey | SRabbelier: is there a way for students to see their link id? |
12:09.53 | SRabbelier | mcfossey: ah, not atm, I'll add it to the dashboard and profile page |
12:10.01 | ConfusedVorlon | hi folks - trying to register as a mentor. I'm getting a response 'data saved' and 'you have to register as a student'. I can't find any register links on the melange site. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
12:10.19 | mcfossey | SRabbelier: thanks that would be great |
12:10.33 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: the link should no longer say "student" |
12:10.36 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: can you verify that? |
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12:26.48 | varunvyas11 | if a mentor does not have a irc nick i.e. he does not come on irc , could he be mailed directly, should i mail him |
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12:27.55 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier - I'm not sure we are talking about the same page. I see 'Before you can apply to be a mentor in Google Summer of Code, you must register.' but there is no link |
12:28.15 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: you're on the register page if you see that text :P |
12:28.19 | ConfusedVorlon | so - I guess you got rid of student! |
12:28.27 | volton | varunvyas11: your should absolutely mail him |
12:29.33 | ConfusedVorlon | Srabellier: I started on the 'register as a mentor' page. I fill in the (long) form and click submit. That then sends me to the 'register as a mentor' page and says I have to register! |
12:29.53 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: are there two 'register as a mentor' pages? |
12:30.09 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: please send screenshots |
12:30.27 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: I recommend http://awesomescreenshot.com/ |
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12:31.40 | varunvyas11 | volton : thanks |
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12:33.26 | skbohra__ | varunvyas11: try asking on the project's irc channel if the said person is frequent on irc or not |
12:33.30 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2011 <- any reason why the orgs listed there are there and others not? |
12:33.36 | Nightrose | seems kind of arbitrary |
12:33.40 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: it is |
12:33.45 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: there's an issue for it |
12:33.48 | Nightrose | ok |
12:34.10 | SRabbelier | mutters about bloody jealous orgs |
12:34.15 | Nightrose | lol |
12:34.20 | Nightrose | well |
12:34.24 | SRabbelier | you figured we're all grown up enough :P |
12:34.33 | SRabbelier | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1135 |
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12:35.26 | Nightrose | th |
12:35.27 | Nightrose | x |
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12:37.05 | varunvyas11 | skbohra__: ok, i will try. i haven't tried till now because no one is online there in that channel for a long time now |
12:37.12 | Nightrose | and sorry for appearing jealous here but since number of applications are something that is part of the slot allocation i am indeed a bit concerned |
12:37.40 | Nightrose | not just for my org |
12:37.47 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: actually, that's really not as important as you think |
12:37.52 | Nightrose | ok |
12:37.54 | Nightrose | fair enough |
12:38.38 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: if we do randomize it though |
12:38.44 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: I assume that objection goes away? |
12:39.02 | Nightrose | if the "read more" text is changed as well yes |
12:39.09 | Nightrose | right now it seems only 5 orgs are taking part |
12:39.09 | skbohra__ | KDE has always been hot favorite among students ;) |
12:39.25 | Nightrose | skbohra__: yes and i work my ass of to keep it that way ;-) |
12:39.29 | ojwb | it did strike me as favouritism too fwiw |
12:40.09 | skbohra__ | Nightrose: we know that, you are one of the most active gsoc admin |
12:40.25 | SRabbelier | ojwb: blame EchoDitto :P |
12:40.32 | skbohra__ | I guess it was just a design decision went wrong |
12:40.59 | SRabbelier | skbohra__: I like it, even if Melange wasn't there |
12:41.01 | Nightrose | skbohra__: heh it isn't so much about competing with others really - i want our students to have a great summer and an experience that means something to them |
12:41.05 | Nightrose | the rest follows i guess |
12:41.06 | ThomasWaldmann | hmm, the soc site looks pretty now, but a bit simple... |
12:41.33 | Nightrose | simple is good in this case |
12:41.37 | Nightrose | imho |
12:41.57 | SRabbelier | ThomasWaldmann: that's the idea, yeah? |
12:42.00 | ThomasWaldmann | well, as long as you find stuff that is supposed to be there :) |
12:42.31 | ThomasWaldmann | e.g. where is the org's mentor list? invite a mentor, etc.? |
12:43.24 | SRabbelier | ThomasWaldmann: deploying that today |
12:43.30 | SRabbelier | if you people will let me get any work done |
12:43.33 | skbohra__ | but I am still not sure, which url to point students to, google-melange.com or socghop.appspot.com or code.google.com/soc |
12:43.35 | SRabbelier | *grins* |
12:43.43 | SRabbelier | skbohra__: the first one |
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12:43.45 | ThomasWaldmann | hehe, ok :) |
12:43.47 | Nightrose | hands SRabbelier a cookie |
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12:43.57 | SRabbelier | skbohra__: the second one might work if they're in some weird country that blocks some Google ips |
12:44.07 | SRabbelier | skbohra__: the third one is useless to them and should become a redirect IMHO |
12:44.12 | SRabbelier | but that's not my call |
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12:45.08 | skbohra__ | my favorite is third one :) google-melange.com doesn't look like it's related to gsoc if you don't know what is melange |
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12:46.18 | ojwb | at least the first has google in the name - socghop.appspot.com has no clear link to google |
12:46.41 | skbohra__ | ha ha |
12:46.41 | SRabbelier | ojwb: which is why we're advertising the former, even though it's the same as the second :) |
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12:47.17 | skbohra__ | google-gsoc.com ? |
12:47.38 | SRabbelier | skbohra__: we're not changing again :P |
12:47.46 | SRabbelier | skbohra__: besides, it'll also serve gci |
12:47.51 | ojwb | google-bikeshed.com? |
12:47.52 | SRabbelier | skbohra__: so it needs to be program neutral |
12:47.59 | SRabbelier | ojwb: YES |
12:48.00 | skbohra__ | i thought so |
12:48.03 | ThomasWaldmann | google-coolstuff.com :) |
12:48.23 | skbohra__ | but it surely could be better |
12:48.40 | mayanks43 | previous projects visible now!! |
12:49.24 | akashm1990 | why not gsoc.google.com |
12:49.28 | akashm1990 | and gci.google.com |
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12:50.04 | Nightrose | just noticed: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 lists the linux foundation first while the rest seems to be in alphabetical order |
12:50.14 | Nightrose | if a bug is needed i can file one |
12:50.20 | ojwb | Nightrose: it puts a different random one first each time |
12:50.24 | ojwb | I assumed deliberately |
12:50.34 | Nightrose | ohh interesting |
12:50.37 | ojwb | so apertium don't get all the glory! |
12:50.41 | Nightrose | it's been linux foundation twice for me |
12:50.48 | akashm1990 | Nightrose: Not for me |
12:50.52 | Nightrose | hehe ok - fair enough then |
12:50.54 | skbohra__ | same here |
12:50.58 | akashm1990 | its in alphabetical order only |
12:51.02 | mayanks43 | abiword @ ojwb |
12:51.14 | ojwb | hmm |
12:51.23 | ojwb | apertium were second for me last time |
12:51.27 | Nightrose | hmm no linux foundation again here |
12:51.52 | ThomasWaldmann | cookies.google.com :D |
12:52.15 | ojwb | cse_tuwien, then apertium |
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12:52.35 | SRabbelier | Nightrose, ojwb: I think it is alphabetical, just takes a while ot load all results |
12:52.49 | ojwb | reload and I get netbsd first, then apertium |
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12:53.01 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: it seems to have finished loading |
12:53.04 | ojwb | SRabbelier: it's definitely not showing signs of still loading |
12:53.07 | Nightrose | at least i don't get a loading thingy |
12:53.22 | ojwb | also seems to think there are 171 orgs |
12:53.33 | Nightrose | indeed here too |
12:53.47 | SRabbelier | weird |
12:53.53 | SRabbelier | maybe it's not sorted after all |
12:53.54 | SRabbelier | dunno |
12:54.03 | ojwb | it's sorted apart from the first |
12:54.15 | ojwb | though abiword isn't there, so I guess it's swapped them? |
12:54.31 | Nightrose | no there are sorting errors further down the list here as well |
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12:54.32 | ojwb | sorted by linkid I think |
12:54.44 | ojwb | Nightrose: is that just linkid vs name? |
12:54.57 | SRabbelier | ojwb: sounds likely |
12:55.04 | Nightrose | ojwb: in those cases indeed |
12:55.07 | Nightrose | not for linux foundation |
12:55.22 | ojwb | Nightrose: apart from the first I mean |
12:55.26 | Nightrose | yeah |
12:55.30 | Nightrose | off-by-one? |
12:55.30 | Nightrose | :D |
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12:56.34 | Nightrose | ok - enough melange testing for today - on to thesis writing |
12:56.36 | Nightrose | laters :) |
12:58.01 | ojwb | have fun |
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13:26.59 | Ophiuchi | re the sorting: it seems to sort for nickname, not official name (so The NetBSD Foundation is netbsd -> n not t |
13:27.04 | Ophiuchi | ) |
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13:27.29 | ojwb | Ophiuchi: that doesn't explain why it appears before those starting with a though |
13:27.41 | ojwb | or why you randomly get different orgs there |
13:28.29 | Ophiuchi | in other news, the picture going with the "mentor sign up" button illustrates quite well how much of a monoculture OSS is. |
13:29.26 | Ophiuchi | ojwb: hm, seemed stable for me, but I didn't close my browser in between |
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13:30.48 | ojwb | Ophiuchi: if you see the discussion above, that's not true for everyone, and different people see different orgs first too |
13:31.18 | SRabbelier | ojwb: Madhu is fixing the sort order |
13:31.58 | Nightrose | Ophiuchi: where do you see the mentor sign-up button? |
13:32.39 | Nightrose | ah nvm |
13:33.23 | Ophiuchi | Nightrose: just look at the start page of a different org |
13:33.33 | Nightrose | Ophiuchi: just did :D |
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13:34.28 | Ophiuchi | I just hope that doesn't keep students that aren't white males from applying, or it's never going to change |
13:35.23 | SRabbelier | Ophiuchi: say what now? |
13:36.24 | ojwb | india and china tend to dominate applications, so i doubt it |
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13:37.12 | akashm1990 | ojwb: arent max applications from US? |
13:37.36 | ojwb | my recollection was india submitted most last year |
13:37.47 | ojwb | though it may have been different for accepted ones |
13:39.34 | ojwb | akashm1990: ah you're right, it's india after us |
13:40.02 | akashm1990 | ojwb: did you find the link to the stats page? I had it, but lost it.. |
13:40.08 | ojwb | at least for 2008: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/04/two-top-10s-for-google-summer-of-code.html |
13:40.50 | akashm1990 | selection percentage seems to be lower for India than US |
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13:42.12 | Ophiuchi | if a merlish and a NOTmerlish meet, do you get spontanous annihilationm and a lot of radiation? |
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13:42.47 | merlish | no, but we get a terrible headache if we're in the same room |
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13:44.23 | dotnick | Ophiuchi: that would be antimerlish, different person I guess. |
13:45.29 | merlish | your rhetoric is nonetheless greatly appreciated in these trying times |
13:47.42 | koda|gsoc | hey the melange site is up again! yay |
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13:49.52 | dotnick | How do you explain Gsoc to someone that never heard of OSS before? |
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13:50.29 | koda|gsoc | but the page for inviting mentors/admins is sill hidden :( |
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13:51.12 | SRabbelier | koda|gsoc: correct |
13:51.17 | SRabbelier | koda|gsoc: working on it |
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13:52.03 | koda|gsoc | ok that's cool :) |
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13:53.06 | boud | erm, after entering all my contact details yet again in my mentor profile, where can I apply for joining an organization? |
13:53.18 | SRabbelier | boud: on their homepage? |
13:53.19 | Nightrose | boud: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/kde |
13:53.50 | boud | I was looking for a handy link or so on the page I got after filling in all the details |
13:54.18 | boud | but got it now, thanks :-) |
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14:09.45 | SRabbelier | boud: adding a "apply" link to the profile page |
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14:12.04 | boud | SRabbelier: wonderful! |
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14:12.30 | hartem | Hi |
14:12.50 | hartem | could anyone please help me to find the missing organization profile information? |
14:13.05 | hartem | e.g. application template, contact details, etc. |
14:14.09 | mmadia | for which org, hartem? |
14:14.16 | hartem | cernvm |
14:14.51 | mmadia | do you mean : http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/cernvm ? |
14:14.59 | hartem | yes |
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14:15.33 | mmadia | their "Ideas page:" link seems to link to a general gsoc page |
14:16.19 | hartem | ideas page works fine for me |
14:16.25 | hartem | actually I am cernvm org. admin |
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14:17.19 | hartem | I wanted to point one of our students to our application template (which I have added to our melange page), but the template seems to be missing now |
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14:18.01 | mmadia | it may be possibly due to http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1139 |
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14:19.22 | hartem | good to know that the issue has been acknowledged, thank you |
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14:19.49 | Torne | I just tried to register as a mentor and i get a 500 Internal Server Error after i submit the form |
14:20.02 | rishi | dotnick: Paid contract work? |
14:20.02 | SRabbelier | harlan: working on it |
14:20.08 | SRabbelier | harlan: will be adding it today |
14:20.26 | mmadia | hartem, you should update cernvm's public mailing list and public irc channel text. |
14:20.37 | mmadia | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/cernvm-talk@cern.ch , http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/Unfortunately%20the%20use%20of%20IRC%20is%20restricted%20at%20CERN.%20See%20Jabber/XMPP%20chat%20room%20details%20on%20our%20ideas%20page. |
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14:21.53 | hartem | bummer |
14:22.22 | hartem | we used to have a couple of sentences saying that we want students to use jabber instead of irc |
14:22.59 | mmadia | maybe a web based jabber client, http://jwchat.org/ can be autodirected to your jabber room? |
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14:24.19 | Matekm | Hello! |
14:25.03 | SRabbelier | hartem: if you can give us an icon for Jabber we can probably add it ;) |
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14:29.11 | Jeff_S | new melange looks great, thanks to everyone who helped |
14:29.31 | SRabbelier | Jeff_S: thank you! |
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14:29.46 | Jeff_S | :) |
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14:39.13 | Arif0605066 | hi |
14:39.14 | hartem | SRabbelier: I'll send you the icon |
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14:39.25 | Arif0605066 | everyone |
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14:42.37 | Arif0605066 | hi need source code of "ascend"..can anyone give me the link? |
14:43.09 | gevaerts | !gsoc |
14:43.09 | socinfo | gevaerts: "gsoc" is Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums |
14:44.21 | SRabbelier | hartem: can you attach it to the issue? |
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14:52.52 | hartem | SRabbelier: the icon is ready, could you please send me the issue link? |
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14:53.43 | mmadia | !bug |
14:53.44 | socinfo | mmadia: "bug" is file melange feature requests & bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue |
14:54.25 | hartem | mmadia: are you sure that I should create a new bug report? |
14:54.27 | SRabbelier | mmadia: there's an existing issue though |
14:54.34 | hartem | :) |
14:55.01 | SRabbelier | harlan: you can add it to this one: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1141 |
14:55.29 | hartem | SRabbelier: OK, I will |
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14:57.58 | SITZ | !next |
14:57.58 | socinfo | SITZ: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
14:58.03 | SITZ | !timeline |
14:58.03 | socinfo | SITZ: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
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15:11.39 | shahriman | !next |
15:11.39 | socinfo | shahriman: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
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15:23.57 | Anunay1 | students are generally advised to submit the proposals as soon as possible but i am having some problem and cant submit untill 2 April will that be a very big problem |
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15:24.49 | SRabbelier | Anunay: can't you submit your proposal to the orgs mailing list now? |
15:25.02 | Michitux | Anunay1: you might get less feedback. have a look at http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents#Writing_Your_Application |
15:25.25 | Myth17 | what if your not very sure about how certain parts of your project will be implemented? how to put that up in the application? |
15:25.51 | Ivanovic | Myth17: you talk to the org |
15:25.57 | Ivanovic | Myth17: and during doing so, it will evolve |
15:26.14 | Ivanovic | the final version can differ significantly from the initial proposal, this is normal |
15:26.50 | Myth17 | Ivanovic, wont it be a bad impression on the people? |
15:26.56 | Ivanovic | no |
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15:27.07 | Ivanovic | it is normal that it evolves over time |
15:27.28 | Ivanovic | and the orgs people seeing how you finetune your initial idea and how you take feedback is in fact *positive* |
15:27.31 | Myth17 | hmm...i would definitely put in my ideas the way i see them working then |
15:27.54 | Myth17 | ahh..great! :) |
15:28.14 | Michitux | "All the successful applications for Thousand Parsec had at least 3 revisions before the final deadline" (quoting the page I've linked to) |
15:28.14 | Ivanovic | you should consider that you often don't know the project as good, as the mentors do, so it would be surprising if you knew about all possible problems |
15:28.45 | Anunay | ya |
15:29.24 | Ivanovic | Anunay: the idea of "submit early" is that you get feedback from the org earlie and are able to adapt to recommendations |
15:29.52 | Myth17 | Michitux, how do they evalauate students finally then and decide which student suIts the best? if every student's application gets modified. |
15:30.11 | Ivanovic | (and it is all about making sure that you don't have a perfect proposal but due to some "strange issue" miss the application deadline (which is a hard deadline, 1min too late and you are *not* participating in gsoc!) |
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15:30.21 | Michitux | Myth17: the applications can't be modified anymore after the application deadline |
15:30.24 | Ivanovic | Myth17: they judge by the end |
15:30.46 | Ivanovic | Michitux: not correct, you can leave comments which can contain large changes |
15:31.00 | Myth17 | yup, i understand that but in the end with the help of the community every student will come up to the same level |
15:31.02 | Ivanovic | Myth17: the orgs judge at some point of time to the best of their knowledge |
15:31.03 | Michitux | Ivanovic: well, okay, but not to the content of the application if I'm right |
15:31.14 | Ivanovic | and it is by far more than the students proposal that is judged |
15:31.32 | Ivanovic | the students interactions with the project are by far more important than the plain proposal |
15:32.08 | hartem | !numbers |
15:32.42 | Ophiuchi | speaking for my org, but assuming that it's not much different for others: projects are collaborative efforts, and seeing that a student communicates well is almost as important as that they know the programming language the code is to be written in. |
15:32.42 | hartem | !stats |
15:32.42 | socinfo | hartem: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
15:33.05 | Ivanovic | Ophiuchi: yeah |
15:33.23 | hartem | what was the command to see the number of applied/accepted orgs |
15:33.25 | hartem | ? |
15:33.32 | gevaerts | !numbers |
15:33.36 | gevaerts | not that |
15:33.43 | Ophiuchi | !appstats |
15:33.50 | gevaerts | !numapps |
15:33.51 | socinfo | gevaerts: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
15:33.54 | Ivanovic | the project itself just outlines the ideas and gives a rough schedule of what is planned to be done when (remember, there has to be some judging mid term and at the end if the student is successful) |
15:33.56 | gevaerts | Yay! |
15:33.58 | Ophiuchi | almost :) |
15:34.06 | Ivanovic | s/project/project proposal |
15:34.20 | SRabbelier | harlan: thanks for the icon |
15:34.30 | hartem | SRabbelier: yw :) |
15:34.39 | hartem | !appstats |
15:34.49 | SRabbelier | !numapps |
15:34.50 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted |
15:34.50 | SRabbelier | ? |
15:35.13 | hartem | thanks |
15:35.35 | Myth17 | If a student applies for a specific idea and another student proposes to complete two ideas in the summer, does that affect your chances of getting chosen. I see this happening and I want to focus my energy on the soul topic of my interest. |
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15:36.20 | SRabbelier | Myth17: ask your org |
15:37.22 | Myth17 | SRabbelier, hmm...but do you have any opinions on this? |
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15:37.46 | Ivanovic | Myth17: the orgs know what makes sense and what is too ambitous |
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15:37.56 | dhaun | students proposing to complete 2 ideas are probably underestimating things a but |
15:37.59 | dhaun | *bit |
15:38.05 | Ivanovic | Myth17: your org should tell you in both cases, not enough as well as too much |
15:38.21 | Ivanovic | (and implementing two complete project ideas is usually not possible in the given timeframe) |
15:39.02 | Myth17 | Ivanovic, even i believe so, being an undergrad i am not sure if people doing their post-grad or so can manage. |
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15:40.26 | Ophiuchi | I thught the question was really "if I send in 2 applications and another send in one application for a project I also applied, what will happen" .. well, first likely check is "is that project likely to finish successfully?", much later comes "pick projects so we can avoind running the same project twice" |
15:40.35 | Ophiuchi | avoid |
15:41.07 | Ophiuchi | and s/thught/thought/ |
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15:51.02 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: sorry - had to go away for a few hours. About that problem registering as a mentor. This is the page I'm trying to register at: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0a9a74dac |
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15:51.29 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: right, now hit submit on that page |
15:51.36 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: then I am redirected to this: http://awesomescreenshot.com/005a74gd3 |
15:52.09 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: huh |
15:52.13 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: what's the url of the second page? |
15:52.20 | ConfusedVorlon | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/mentor/google/gsoc2011?org=videolan# |
15:52.57 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: and the first page? |
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15:53.15 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=ah&passive=true&continue=https://appengine.google.com/_ah/conflogin%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/mentor/google/gsoc2011%253Forg%253Dvideolan<mpl=&sig=e55b9f7ca712e69f14a3418cede0fd9c |
15:53.57 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: err, that's the login url :P |
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15:54.37 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: that's what chrome is showing. It certainly isn't the url I originally entered... |
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15:54.59 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: so can you try to submit that form? |
15:55.00 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: perhaps a simpler question. Where _should_ I register to become a mentor |
15:55.13 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/mentor/google/gsoc2011?org=videolan is the correct url |
15:55.28 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelelier: that's certainly where I started off... |
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15:56.01 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: so, try going to that url, filling out the form, hitting submit :P |
15:56.04 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: see what happens |
15:56.34 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelelier: I'll try again. It now looks somewhat different - It says before you can apply to be a mentor, you must register. Is that the reg form - or should I click through to the 'you can now apply to GSOC' |
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15:56.50 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: that means you're registered |
15:56.52 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: you can click apply now |
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15:57.07 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: ok - will try it again |
15:57.11 | LetterRip | hi all, the contact parts of this page seem broken |
15:57.12 | LetterRip | http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/blender |
15:57.25 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: tell the blender peepz |
15:57.40 | LetterRip | SRabbelier: i am the blender peeps :) |
15:57.48 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: so, fix it! |
15:57.51 | LetterRip | it appears to be some flaw of melange |
15:57.56 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: add a mailto: if that's what you want :P |
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16:02.12 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: so does this mean I have succeeded, failed, or am part way there? http://awesomescreenshot.com/098a75625 |
16:02.35 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: means you can now click the 'apply' link :P |
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16:04.11 | hiemanshu | so why isnt the application template of orgs visible? I was planning to start working on the apps now |
16:05.04 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: so the process is - 1) register 2) register as a mentor 3) apply to be a mentor ? with section 1 & 2 taking the same data? |
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16:07.12 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: no |
16:07.18 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: step 1 was somehow borked for you |
16:07.38 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: that is, the process is 1) register as a mentor once, 2) apply to be a mentor to each of the org you want ot mentor |
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16:09.37 | ConfusedVorlon | SRabbelier: looks like I'm in now anyway. Thanks for your help. |
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16:10.20 | SRabbelier | ConfusedVorlon: sorry for the borked process |
16:11.23 | thiago_home | it's still a lot easier than in 2005 |
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16:13.41 | SRabbelier | thiago_home: awr, thanks ^^ |
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16:18.28 | rahulbhatnagar | testing |
16:18.31 | rahulbhatnagar | uhhh |
16:18.32 | rahulbhatnagar | hi |
16:18.44 | rahulbhatnagar | i somehow can't log into my account |
16:18.47 | rahulbhatnagar | my nick is ralbhat |
16:18.49 | rahulbhatnagar | any help? |
16:18.59 | rahulbhatnagar | i'm sad with IRC, i know :/ |
16:19.09 | thiago_home | your melange account? |
16:19.15 | rahulbhatnagar | yeah |
16:19.16 | rahulbhatnagar | no |
16:19.20 | rahulbhatnagar | my IRC nick |
16:19.22 | rahulbhatnagar | at freenode |
16:19.37 | hiemanshu | rahulbhatnagar: try #freenode |
16:19.38 | blast007 | try #freenode |
16:19.46 | rahulbhatnagar | k |
16:19.48 | rahulbhatnagar | thnx :) |
16:20.20 | svaksha | rahulbhatnagar: if you know the password to the other account just do "/msg nickserv set accountname <nick> |
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16:22.59 | ralbhat | thanks, svaksha |
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16:51.31 | SRabbelier | harlan: so atm there's no jabber field right? |
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16:55.07 | akashm1990 | 27 hours for applications to open .. |
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16:56.52 | Ophiuchi | wouldn't it be a lot easier to take an icon that says "chat" instead of "irc" for the contact box, instead of doing an extra field for every chat protocol under the sun? :) |
16:57.53 | SRabbelier | Ophiuchi: now there's an idea |
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17:00.26 | SRabbelier | harlan: how does that sound to you? |
17:01.06 | raincole__ | The google's book(http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/writing-a-proposal/) says |
17:01.20 | raincole__ | a proposal includes contact information |
17:01.45 | raincole__ | but it's examples don't |
17:02.36 | raincole__ | should I mention phone number and address when writing my proposal? |
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17:03.12 | ralbhat | raincole__ : organisations clearly mention the information they expect from you right away |
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17:03.40 | ralbhat | it's usually in the form of a template, for the time being, that should be sufficient |
17:03.48 | Ophiuchi | raincole__: for my project, I want email address and possibly chat nickname if the student hangs out on Freenode anyway, but only ask for a telephone number when they are accepted, and don't make that in any way public. |
17:04.05 | raincole__ | I asked my mentor, but they said |
17:04.15 | raincole__ | <mcfossey> raincole_: we don't require anything special so you can follow the guide. :) We have a form that you can use to submit your contact |
17:04.26 | _sagi | the ideas page of Gnome doesnt mention names of the mentor and any contact. How to contact the mentors of various project |
17:04.35 | Ophiuchi | (they get mine in return, in case their Internet connectivity burns down and they need to tell someone) |
17:04.39 | raincole__ | then give me a link to fill my contact |
17:05.30 | raincole__ | so I just want to know if the contact in proposal is google's policy |
17:05.38 | Ophiuchi | sagi: it may be that the mentor is not nailed down yet. Do they give the appropriate mailing list for that project? |
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17:06.39 | Ophiuchi | raincole__: if your proposal is unclear in some point, do you prefer if the orgs people can contact you to ask, or just don't pick your project? :) |
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17:07.56 | _sagi | no there is nothing like mailing lists for individual projects. They have just provided main gnome mailing list thats all . What should i do if i want to work in any one project as a student. |
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17:08.03 | raincole__ | but I'm in a different country, I don't consider the postal address(not e-mail) useful.. |
17:08.36 | raincole__ | I will write my e-mail and IRC nickname, of course |
17:09.09 | raincole__ | (and in fact, I don't know how to write my postal address in English!) |
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17:09.33 | Ophiuchi | _sagi: mail that mailing list and state your interest and ask your questions. put a marker in your subject so it's clear it's about GSoC |
17:10.36 | _sagi | Guidelines provided by gsoc advices us to talk to the mentor prior to the proposal. So should i mail them that i am particularly interested in some project. |
17:11.48 | Ophiuchi | raincole__: ah I see, that's the "make my Google account for GSoC" not "write the application for the org with the orgs template" |
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17:12.21 | Ophiuchi | raincole__: totally different matter. Google needs to know where to send t-shirt and remuneration :) |
17:13.51 | dukeleto | i heard that Google is sending GSoC socks this year, instead of t-shirts... |
17:14.01 | raincole__ | Ophiuchi: oh, thanks |
17:14.13 | Ophiuchi | dukeleto: that would be a change |
17:14.31 | raincole__ | Is it truth? |
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17:14.48 | Ophiuchi | btw, I assume last years shirts should all have arrived by now? |
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18:17.41 | zamN | !help list |
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18:17.52 | zamN | !help list gsoc |
18:17.52 | socinfo | zamN: Error: There is no command "list gsoc". |
18:17.54 | zamN | :( |
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18:45.59 | SITZ | applications start today, right ? |
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18:46.10 | |Kev| | !next |
18:46.10 | socinfo | |Kev|: "next" is March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations. |
18:46.26 | |Kev| | Oh, that's not terribly helpful |
18:46.28 | |Kev| | !timeline |
18:46.28 | socinfo | |Kev|: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
18:46.53 | SITZ | I can't see the list of orgs that were availabe there before this new interface for gsoc ? |
18:47.16 | |Kev| | !learn next as March 28 1900UTC Student application period opens. |
18:47.16 | socinfo | |Kev|: The operation succeeded. |
18:47.19 | |Kev| | !next |
18:47.19 | socinfo | |Kev|: "next" is (#1) March 18-27: Would-be student participants discuss application ideas with mentoring organizations., or (#2) March 28 1900UTC Student application period opens. |
18:47.24 | |Kev| | !forget next 1 |
18:47.24 | socinfo | |Kev|: The operation succeeded. |
18:47.26 | |Kev| | !next |
18:47.26 | socinfo | |Kev|: "next" is March 28 1900UTC Student application period opens. |
18:47.28 | |Kev| | There you go. |
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18:47.58 | SITZ | but, from where will be able to submit ? |
18:48.07 | |Kev| | The list of orgs is still there |
18:48.23 | SITZ | Neither can I find the list of orgs available... nor, can I find the application interface ? |
18:48.32 | SITZ | can you tell me, where ? |
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18:49.30 | |Kev| | See above, the applications aren't open yet |
18:49.40 | |Kev| | And the org list is linked from the homepage. |
18:49.55 | SITZ | oh.. noob questions |
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18:50.04 | tdomhan | help |
18:50.17 | tdomhan | sry wrong window :/ |
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18:52.05 | SITZ | |Kev|: list is empty ? |
18:52.16 | |Kev| | Wait a few seconds for it to load. |
18:52.29 | SITZ | the list above on the info bar.. is linked to empty list :| |
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18:53.00 | |Kev| | Unless you have javascript turned off in your browser or similar, it should load in a couple of seconds. |
18:53.18 | rams_pandu | is there any template for application for gsoc? |
18:53.31 | SITZ | |Kev|: it used to open before, today, not opening ? |
18:53.40 | skbohra__ | rams_pandu: that's organizaton specific |
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18:54.14 | rams_pandu | skbohra__, yeah, I knew that. I am asking if any one can link me if gnome has one |
18:54.33 | skbohra__ | ok |
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19:02.31 | SITZ | !next |
19:02.31 | socinfo | SITZ: "next" is March 28 1900UTC Student application period opens. |
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19:02.51 | thiago_home | 24 hours to go |
19:03.34 | Dokem | did google just change the gsoc website? |
19:03.45 | thiago_home | yes |
19:03.49 | SITZ | Dokem: yeah.. they changed the interface |
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19:04.21 | SRabbelier | Dokem: you noticed? |
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19:05.03 | dberkholz|mob | SRabbelier: When's the mobile interface coming? =) |
19:05.18 | Dokem | well i am just asking because none of the links in the FAQ match u |
19:05.23 | Dokem | *up |
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19:05.31 | SRabbelier | dberkholz: f5u12 man, :P |
19:05.41 | SRabbelier | Dokem: good point |
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19:07.16 | Dokem | ok one more question: |
19:07.51 | Dokem | If im in high school and ive been accepted to a university im eligible right? |
19:08.05 | gevaerts | !eligible |
19:08.05 | socinfo | gevaerts: "eligible" is Follow this handy flowchart to see if you are eligible http://goo.gl/kvCSv (text version at http://goo.gl/ImfNT) |
19:08.28 | gevaerts | Dokem: ^ |
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19:11.31 | Dokem | hmmm still not sure... |
19:11.48 | Dokem | I'll have to look further into this |
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19:17.30 | Dokem | ok i have a student ID with the school, so it seems like that counts. |
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19:28.28 | zamN | is it me or does the accepted orgs filter system not work? http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 |
19:28.37 | zamN | I'm typing in java for tags and hitting enter and nothing loads up |
19:28.41 | zamN | I'm using the latest version of chrome |
19:28.48 | zamN | ah, nevermind its working now |
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19:32.33 | aj_ | hey'all ..nebody here contributing to Drizzle? |
19:33.30 | SRabbelier | !anyone |
19:33.31 | socinfo | SRabbelier: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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19:43.58 | dberkholz|mob | SRabbelier: Does the timeline circle go counterclockwise or is it just me? Seems counterintuitive... |
19:44.12 | SRabbelier | dberkholz|mob: that's how it rolls |
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21:31.11 | bkgood | robbyoconnor: are you applying to be a student this year? |
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21:37.55 | robbyoconnor | bkgood: No |
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21:40.17 | yeswanth | do we have to submit the application directly to google or submit to mentoring organization first and get feedback and finally to google? |
21:40.42 | thiago_home | the student application? |
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21:41.28 | yeswanth | thiago_home: yes |
21:41.48 | thiago_home | you should talk to the organisation |
21:41.53 | thiago_home | you must submit it in the interface |
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21:50.22 | alfonso | hi everyone :) |
21:57.34 | alfonso | I was wondering... a few days ago (3 or 4 I believe) I saw in the list of mentoring organizations Processing, however, I now looked again at the list, and it isn't in it anymore |
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21:58.15 | alfonso | Does anyone know what may have happened? Maybe an error, or that they decided to leave the program early? |
21:58.29 | alfonso | I was really intereseted in colaborating with them :( |
21:58.44 | gevaerts | hm, right. The list only has 171 names instead of 175... |
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22:00.14 | alfonso | maybe they decided to drop at the last minute? |
22:00.32 | gevaerts | asked in #melange |
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22:10.34 | atagar | hm, has anyone figured out how to add more org admins with the new interface or is that functionality still disabled? |
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22:18.23 | SRabbelier | atagar: deploying that functionality once I have the go-ahead from the rest of the team |
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22:20.06 | alfski | Hi. After the Melange refresh, where did the, per organisation, "Application Template" for students go? |
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22:20.31 | SRabbelier | alfski: well bother, I was going to add that today, but haven't yet |
22:20.41 | SRabbelier | alfski: there you went ahead and delayed the release by at least 10 minutes :P |
22:21.13 | vh4x0r | Is there an application template for students ? |
22:21.18 | zamN_paniz | yes |
22:21.20 | zamN_paniz | its in the FAQ |
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22:23.05 | vh4x0r | while declaring the timeline in the proposal, what happens if one cannot stickk to it accurately ? |
22:23.31 | vh4x0r | it's virtually impossible to declare a timeline before starting coding :( |
22:23.59 | SRabbelier | vh4x0r: you get quartered |
22:24.00 | mlankhorst | just so you know what has to be done ;p |
22:24.11 | Ophiuchi | vh4x0r: some dates (like the midterm and final reviews) are fixed, others are open for negotiation. You have exams during GSoC? |
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22:24.42 | vh4x0r | Ophiuchi, yes, during the first week, but vacations after that ! |
22:27.08 | Ophiuchi | vh4x0r: just tell the org you're picking about such things, most will understand that school is your primary job (: |
22:31.10 | vh4x0r | What time does the student application start ? |
22:31.25 | vh4x0r | Is there an advantage to submitting the application earlier ? |
22:31.43 | SRabbelier | alfski: what org? |
22:32.05 | Ophiuchi | vh4x0r: only that you won't miss the deadline that way :-P |
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22:34.09 | otibom | Hi, I'm trying to find info on gsoc, but i'm kinda lost between websites. Is there anything like a "Getting started" page ? |
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22:37.09 | lfzawacki | the student guide seems to be what you want |
22:37.11 | lfzawacki | http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/what-is-google-summer-of-code/ |
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22:39.43 | otibom | thanks, I also found that http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents |
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23:21.04 | alfski | @SRabblier: Liquid Galaxy Project.... sorry about the delay was in a meeting |
23:22.36 | nekohayo | hey there, for projects participating under the umbrella of multiple projets (gnome + gstreamer), should students send their introductory emails/ideas/proposals to three mailing lists (the application + gnome + gstreamer) in addition to applying on the gsoc website? should they apply to both umbrella orgs for each application? |
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23:37.32 | schumaml | nekohayo: did you check their gsoc page? |
23:37.59 | nekohayo | I should check gstreamer again |
23:38.16 | nekohayo | I've just been told that gnome does not require posting to a mailing list actually |
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23:39.47 | nekohayo | I'll ask the #gstreamer folks and that should solve my question :) |
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