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| 02:12.42 | FreezingCold | Awww, I missed it again this year... |
| 02:13.40 | kalinka | FreezingCold: missed what |
| 02:13.48 | FreezingCold | GSOC |
| 02:13.51 | FreezingCold | I didn't apply |
| 02:13.56 | FreezingCold | Forgot about it until now |
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| 02:14.12 | FreezingCold | Haha, I haven't even picked one yet |
| 02:16.05 | FreezingCold | Had a few ideas |
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| 02:22.26 | downeym | FreezingCold: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs |
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| 02:53.23 | nuigroup_ | any GSoC admins available for a question? |
| 02:59.39 | dberkholz | org admin, or google admin? |
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| 03:31.06 | solardiz | is there some public info/stats on students failing their gsoc - how, why - presumably info provided/shared by gsoc orgs? do some individual orgs make this sort of info public? (i guess not, but thought i'd ask) |
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| 03:34.34 | dberkholz | solardiz: not really, just how many across the whole program |
| 03:34.58 | dberkholz | solardiz: for us, it's been mostly students disappearing, some who just didn't have the skills, and a couple of con artists or procrastinators |
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| 03:35.49 | solardiz | dberkholz: thanks. where do i find that program-wide info? |
| 03:36.23 | solardiz | dberkholz: did those con artists have the skills? (that is, could do the job if they wanted to) |
| 03:36.59 | scorche | there isnt a program-wide set of information released |
| 03:37.09 | scorche | for us, all of our failures have been disappearing students |
| 03:37.38 | solardiz | was it common for students to disappear despite having communicated well before being accepted? |
| 03:37.59 | scorche | i wouldnt say "common", but it happens |
| 03:38.06 | dberkholz | solardiz: re how many fail, it's about 10-15%, with roughly half at midterm and half at final |
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| 03:39.09 | scorche | and probably at least a half of the final failers are people who were given a second chance at midterms... |
| 03:40.00 | solardiz | do postgraduate students generally perform better or worse in gsoc? |
| 03:40.34 | solardiz | i would guess that the chance of them disappearing should be lower, at least. plus greater skills and experience. |
| 03:41.19 | dberkholz | we've only had a couple, but they've done fairly well. |
| 03:42.07 | solardiz | dberkholz: i am surprised you only had a couple of them. do you specifically prefer undergraduates? |
| 03:42.19 | dberkholz | we prefer people who can commit full-time |
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| 03:42.36 | dberkholz | the postgrads who have applied to us mostly can't do that |
| 03:43.47 | dberkholz | the ones who could make time generally did well |
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| 03:49.03 | solardiz | dberkholz: do the non-binary solutions mentioned at http://dberkholz.com/2010/12/14/7-problems-gsoc-admins-encounter/ apply to mid-term only or also to final? |
| 03:52.51 | dberkholz | solardiz: that's more of a proposal to carol/chris of something i wish were possible =) |
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| 03:53.28 | solardiz | dberkholz: oh, i misread your blog post as indicating this were already possible (i was pleasantly surprised). thanks for the clarification. |
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| 04:48.36 | Mudit | Did any one got their rankings or marks on their projects |
| 04:48.41 | Mudit | ? |
| 04:49.34 | Guest69499 | @Mudit: no, atleast for me |
| 04:49.55 | Mudit | ok |
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| 05:02.57 | wqapol | Any idea who iss this person talking in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF5kMGvoFt4 at 4:30? |
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| 05:08.41 | sumzup | wqapol: based on the list of panel speakers at the beginning of the vid (and general positioning), I'd guess Diego Novillo |
| 05:08.43 | sumzup | from Google |
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| 05:09.39 | jatin | students who have multiple selections, have they been informed?? |
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| 05:13.09 | wqapol | sumzup: thanks, i forgot that there was a list of speakers in vid. it's Austin Ziegler |
| 05:13.10 | sumzup | has anyone been informed? |
| 05:13.49 | sumzup | ah, cool |
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| 05:34.37 | fix | if someone apply for two projects in same organization,would he be asked about his preference if mentors like his both proposals? |
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| 05:38.28 | rrix | fix: That's for the organisation to decide |
| 05:38.45 | rrix | They can ask |
| 05:39.16 | rrix | Or they can decide and assume that the student is equally likely to want any of their projects |
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| 05:54.09 | jatin | have the students who have been selected in multiple projects informed?? |
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| 05:56.30 | kblin | jatin: depends? |
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| 06:00.41 | laserbled | !time |
| 06:00.42 | gsocbot | laserbled: "time" is has come, the walrus said, to speak of other things. |
| 06:00.56 | laserbled | !utc |
| 06:00.57 | gsocbot | laserbled: "utc" is When developing open source, you'll work with people in time zones all over the world. Check http://goo.gl/wUKjq for current times, including UTC. |
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| 06:02.19 | slashdot | !next |
| 06:02.19 | gsocbot | slashdot: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 06:04.30 | jatin | !next |
| 06:04.30 | gsocbot | jatin: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 06:07.44 | thebolt | Morning |
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| 06:09.18 | jorrit | Hi |
| 06:09.29 | jorrit | Deadline is less then an hour away right? |
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| 06:11.57 | thebolt | jorrit: one deadline is 50 minutes away |
| 06:12.17 | jorrit | ok |
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| 06:38.27 | CrawfordComeaux | !next |
| 06:38.27 | gsocbot | CrawfordComeaux: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 06:38.58 | CrawfordComeaux | ok...so dedupe is later today...only just saw we had a dupe...dammit :/ |
| 06:40.57 | kblin | !lifeline |
| 06:40.57 | gsocbot | kblin: "lifeline" is Here, have a cookie and some coffee |
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| 06:43.52 | thebolt | hi kblin |
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| 06:44.05 | valorie | CrawfordComeaux: write to the other org |
| 06:44.09 | valorie | soon |
| 06:44.26 | valorie | or one of you could possibly lose a slot entirely |
| 06:44.31 | kblin | morning thebolt, * |
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| 06:46.50 | kblin | oh well, time to get myself to work |
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| 06:48.14 | thebolt | ;) |
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| 06:56.56 | LetterRip | what channel will deduplication be in? |
| 07:01.32 | |Kev| | Here. |
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| 07:04.11 | th2o | hello |
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| 07:05.26 | valorie | \o/ |
| 07:05.30 | valorie | no dupes! |
| 07:05.40 | valorie | I hope that will hold until the meeting..... |
| 07:06.20 | |Kev| | Would be nice. |
| 07:06.44 | |Kev| | We've already given away two of our slots, I'd rather not lose students at this stage. |
| 07:07.21 | robbyoconnor | good question: does everybody get booted for the de-dupe meeting? |
| 07:07.28 | |Kev| | robbyoconnor: Unlikely. |
| 07:07.50 | robbyoconnor | a good chunk of the students are in here... |
| 07:07.59 | |Kev| | Such is life. |
| 07:08.29 | DarthGandalf | !numapps |
| 07:08.29 | gsocbot | DarthGandalf: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year; 5474 proposals were submitted by 3731 students. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 07:08.55 | DarthGandalf | robbyoconnor: only 345 people here, and not all of them are students... 3731 students total |
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| 07:09.40 | robbyoconnor | makes you feel good when out od 3464, only 1026 were accepted |
| 07:09.48 | robbyoconnor | (2010) |
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| 07:13.07 | valorie | robbyoconnor: that is the top third |
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| 07:13.14 | valorie | rather generous, i would say |
| 07:13.28 | robbyoconnor | valorie: 2008, 2009, 2010 |
| 07:13.35 | robbyoconnor | I sat out this year and mentored |
| 07:13.44 | robbyoconnor | it'll be nice to not have to meet deadlines |
| 07:13.47 | valorie | in the proposals I've seen, the bottom third were pretty much crap |
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| 07:13.58 | robbyoconnor | valorie: I saw some poor ones |
| 07:13.59 | valorie | middle third, rather middling |
| 07:14.03 | robbyoconnor | one was "too much" |
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| 07:16.00 | virous | hello how can we find the rank list ??? |
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| 07:17.24 | valorie | virous: your org |
| 07:17.42 | valorie | but unless you are a mentor or admin, you have to wait like everyone else |
| 07:18.01 | virous | ok thanks :) |
| 07:19.02 | |Kev| | 09:13 < robbyoconnor> I sat out this year and mentored |
| 07:19.03 | |Kev| | 09:13 < robbyoconnor> it'll be nice to not have to meet deadlines |
| 07:19.12 | |Kev| | Oh, don't fool yourself, you still have to meet deadlines. |
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| 07:20.45 | robbyoconnor | |Kev|:I'm co-mentoring :) |
| 07:20.59 | robbyoconnor | well technically backup |
| 07:22.30 | robbyoconnor | virous: your org can't tell you if you were accepted-- or they shouldn't |
| 07:22.47 | robbyoconnor | I'm fairly certain they could get in trouble for leaking it early |
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| 07:23.37 | LetterRip | robbyoconnor: duplicates can know |
| 07:23.45 | virous | oh ok but when is the deadline to know whether v r selected or not???? |
| 07:23.50 | LetterRip | 25th |
| 07:23.55 | LetterRip | all is revealed |
| 07:23.55 | scorche | !timeline |
| 07:23.55 | gsocbot | scorche: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
| 07:24.04 | |Kev| | LetterRip: You're not supposed to tell duplicates either. |
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| 07:24.41 | LetterRip | |Kev| afaik it is ok to contact a student who is a picked by mutliple orgs and ask him 'which he prefers' |
| 07:24.42 | |Kev| | It's just a bit obvious when you start asking them questions. |
| 07:24.53 | |Kev| | LetterRip: Yes, but not to tell him it's because he's been accepted. |
| 07:25.13 | |Kev| | Although they'll assume that's why. |
| 07:25.30 | LetterRip | right |
| 07:26.08 | virous | litterrip:what is revealed???? |
| 07:26.09 | akhil__ | how do you de-duplicate without giving a hint to the student that he is selected ? |
| 07:26.17 | akhil__ | is there any process? |
| 07:26.24 | LetterRip | akhil__: some orgs don't ask the student their preference |
| 07:26.31 | LetterRip | just sorting it amongst the orgs |
| 07:26.39 | DarthGandalf | "Of course you're not accepted yet, but as several orgs... erm... think about accepting you, what do you prefer?" |
| 07:26.41 | |Kev| | akhil__: Well, ideally you asked the student if they'd applied elsewhere earlier. |
| 07:27.01 | valorie | it is presumed that they want to do any of the proposals they submitted |
| 07:27.01 | |Kev| | We didn't consult the students for our two duplicates. |
| 07:27.13 | LetterRip | |Kev|: well i knew a student had applied to three different orgs and had great proposals for all of them |
| 07:27.34 | scorche | the main reason why we cant tell students they have been accepted is because it could change at any time and it would be a Bad Thing (TM) to tell a student they have been accepted and suddenly things change... |
| 07:27.51 | |Kev| | scorche: Right, that's understood, I tihnk. |
| 07:27.54 | |Kev| | s/ih/hi/ |
| 07:28.21 | akhil__ | ok...thanks for the information |
| 07:28.23 | scorche | |Kev|: it doesnt hurt to say it explicitely ;) |
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| 07:29.25 | Ophiuchi | one can "fix" that by telling students that they -would- be accepted due to ranking |
| 07:29.57 | scorche | what is to fix? |
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| 07:30.34 | scorche | it is much simpler to just not tell the student whether they are accepted or not - they can make their own assumptions, but as long as the mentoring org doesnt tell them, it is fine... |
| 07:31.02 | Ophiuchi | although that may be a legal fine point. If a student asks if they got a safe spot I tell them that Google could decide that they'd only take students with a letter 'a' in their name this year, although that wasn't very likely. |
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| 07:31.11 | tomfelt | !logs |
| 07:31.12 | gsocbot | tomfelt: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 07:31.35 | scorche | Ophiuchi: i still dont see why you would bother with all of that |
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| 07:33.07 | Ophiuchi | scorche: hm. communications is not a one-way street, and we do want our students to communicate as well as being able to trust us. |
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| 07:34.04 | scorche | Ophiuchi: so what is wrong with "i am sorry, but google has mandated that we cannot tell students whether they have been accepted or not, please wait until the 25th"? |
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| 07:34.27 | subrahmanyam | will the mentoring organisations contact the students if they applied for more than one? |
| 07:34.45 | DarthGandalf | subrahmanyam: usually know, but it depends. |
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| 07:34.49 | DarthGandalf | subrahmanyam: usually no, but it depends. |
| 07:34.52 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: it depends on the rogs |
| 07:34.54 | LetterRip | orgs |
| 07:34.59 | scorche | subrahmanyam: not necessarily - if there is a preference, please let your potential orgs know |
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| 07:35.30 | subrahmanyam | ^ what?can u make it clear please |
| 07:35.58 | Ophiuchi | scorche: as an explanation of why, it's lacking. "Because we don't have the final say on this" is more illustrative. |
| 07:36.29 | Ophiuchi | scorche: and in the case of students you need to ask their preference for deduplication, it's bordering on the silly. |
| 07:36.31 | scorche | subrahmanyam: the orgs may not necessarily ask you which project you would rather do - if you do have a preference for one or another, it would be wise to let the potential orgs know this |
| 07:36.35 | LetterRip | i think our students who definitely are not getting accepted all can tell pretty clearly from our comments on the proposals (not hostile or negative, but clear that the student didn't put the proper effort in, is missing key information, or has other points that make it unlikely) |
| 07:36.53 | subrahmanyam | i got his proposal has been flagged as ignored by the organization administrators. You will NOT be allowed to update or withdraw the proposal now. If you think this is incorrect, contact your organization administrators to resolve this situation. |
| 07:37.02 | subrahmanyam | what does rhis mean?? |
| 07:37.23 | scorche | Ophiuchi: why is it lacking? - i would think that "because we dont have the final say in this" would be implied - one could always give the reason i illustrated above for why google says not to tell them as well |
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| 07:37.36 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: ignored means they changed the status - that probably means it was rejected (they finalized their list perhaps) |
| 07:38.07 | LetterRip | some orgs are probably using ignored as a filter |
| 07:38.07 | scorche | Ophiuchi: and you dont need to ask the students for their preference, however with my org, it doesnt matter - we ask them in an interview that took place last week if they applied to other orgs and which they would prefer in a dup situation |
| 07:38.24 | subrahmanyam | does this mean that the orgs which haven't done flagg accepeted my proposal?? |
| 07:38.29 | LetterRip | nope |
| 07:38.36 | LetterRip | we didn't use ignored as a filter |
| 07:38.49 | LetterRip | we only used ignored for proposals that were not serious proposals, spam, etc |
| 07:39.18 | subrahmanyam | on what basis the applications are judged?? |
| 07:39.34 | LetterRip | each organization can judge them on any basis they choose to |
| 07:39.35 | scorche | subrahmanyam: on whatever basis the org has determined to use |
| 07:39.40 | subrahmanyam | how the ranking is done? |
| 07:39.50 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: any way the org chooses to |
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| 07:40.08 | subrahmanyam | can we the reason y the application is rejected?? |
| 07:40.14 | LetterRip | perhaps they did the classic grading method, through them in the air at the top of stairs |
| 07:40.22 | scorche | subrahmanyam: you can ask, but the org is not required to tell you |
| 07:40.25 | LetterRip | the ones that get furthest get the best grade |
| 07:40.33 | LetterRip | throw |
| 07:40.36 | valorie | subrahmanyam: in general, the orgs will value the quality of the proposal, the involvement of the studen, and their need for the project |
| 07:40.49 | valorie | in varying quantities |
| 07:40.53 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: what valorie said |
| 07:40.58 | Ophiuchi | scorche: I've deduplicated students because their proposal to the other org was better for both orgs, and I've had a case where that wasn't obvious and we just asked the student. In the latter case, the only other option would have been to throw dice. |
| 07:41.12 | akhil__ | LetterRip: that really saves a lot of time too.. :) |
| 07:41.35 | scorche | Ophiuchi: sure, but i dont see the point of you saying that in this situation... |
| 07:41.56 | scorche | s/situation/discussion topic |
| 07:42.09 | subrahmanyam | do the ranks are shown or only the accepted proposals? |
| 07:42.31 | scorche | subrahmanyam: if you are a student, you will only know if you have been accepted or not |
| 07:42.46 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: other considerations are mentoring capacity - ie we might have a mentor that covers certain areas and three proposals to his area of expertise, but he can only mentor one |
| 07:43.00 | Ophiuchi | subrahmanyam: in previous years, only accepted / not accepted was shown |
| 07:43.20 | akhil__ | how does google decide ... how many slots to give to an organization ?? |
| 07:43.20 | subrahmanyam | if they gave feedback then we can improve further na in future..y google does this?? |
| 07:43.27 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: other considerations might be mentor/student fit - some mentor might be exceptionally well suited |
| 07:43.36 | scorche | !slots |
| 07:43.37 | gsocbot | scorche: "slots" is Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2. |
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| 07:43.44 | scorche | hrm |
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| 07:44.01 | ankit_frenz | subrahmanyam: You can ask the organisation directly..Most will tell you how to improve next time |
| 07:44.24 | Ophiuchi | subrahmanyam: in past years, I wrote letters to the not-accepted students. |
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| 07:44.31 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: others might have particular needs - ie a proposal that none of the core devs really wants to do - might rank a proposal for doing that work higher |
| 07:44.53 | sbose78 | I have a question, I'm student. I have applied for the internship. Do I need to stay online during the chat? |
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| 07:45.14 | LetterRip | sbose78: nope |
| 07:45.25 | Ophiuchi | sbose78: have you applied to more than one org? |
| 07:45.26 | LetterRip | but if you applied to multiple orgs |
| 07:45.31 | LetterRip | you might want to be readily available |
| 07:46.00 | sbose78 | Yes , three, one have them have notified me ( after me buzzing them) that I am not selected. |
| 07:46.05 | subrahmanyam | can we join in the irc that is going to be conducted this day to avoid duplicate entires..even though we are a student?? |
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| 07:46.19 | scorche | subrahmanyam: it will be held in this channel, so sure |
| 07:46.20 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: not sure what the official rules are |
| 07:46.27 | LetterRip | presumably yes |
| 07:46.34 | scorche | subrahmanyam: i will likely be muting the channel, but... |
| 07:46.36 | subrahmanyam | i applied for more than one org |
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| 07:47.32 | scorche | akhil__: ah, here it is: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 07:48.26 | scorche | !learn slots as http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
| 07:48.27 | gsocbot | scorche: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
| 07:48.29 | robbyoconnor | If students weren't selected it's either: a) their proposal sucked b) it was good but somebody else was better c) not enough slots |
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| 07:49.18 | Ophiuchi | scorche: re our discussion: we may have different "do you think I'm an idiot?" pain levels :) and apply these in our communications with others accordingly. |
| 07:49.21 | robbyoconnor | but either way -- you can always ask how to improve.. I've always tried to write a knock-out proposal :) |
| 07:49.45 | scorche | Ophiuchi: i dont understand |
| 07:49.51 | LetterRip | scorche that is much more complete |
| 07:49.55 | robbyoconnor | scorche: so have you been de-sensitized to me yet :) |
| 07:49.57 | LetterRip | than i've heard before |
| 07:49.58 | robbyoconnor | after 4 years :D |
| 07:50.14 | scorche | robbyoconnor: i have mostly learned to just tune you out |
| 07:50.18 | Ophiuchi | and the "more worthy proposals than slots" situation is quite normal. |
| 07:50.24 | robbyoconnor | scorche: but you love me |
| 07:50.25 | scorche | robbyoconnor: and remain glad i dont see the student list |
| 07:50.25 | subrahmanyam | can i know how many applications that gsoc got this year??and how many number that google is planning to intake this year?? |
| 07:50.37 | robbyoconnor | scorche: I still rank high there :) |
| 07:50.53 | LetterRip | subrahmanyam: !stats |
| 07:50.54 | robbyoconnor | !numapps |
| 07:50.55 | gsocbot | robbyoconnor: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year; 5474 proposals were submitted by 3731 students. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 07:51.04 | scorche | robbyoconnor: i dont think that means what you think it means ;) |
| 07:51.42 | subrahmanyam | !stats |
| 07:51.43 | gsocbot | subrahmanyam: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 07:51.46 | LetterRip | robbyoconnor: you are rank and high where :) |
| 07:52.05 | robbyoconnor | LetterRip: other than having particiupated for 3 years |
| 07:52.06 | robbyoconnor | low :) |
| 07:52.16 | scorche | LetterRip: dont ask - he is not a model to look up to ;) |
| 07:52.17 | LetterRip | heheh |
| 07:52.31 | robbyoconnor | LetterRip: he's right I'm afraid |
| 07:52.39 | Talad | how much will the de-duplication meeting last? |
| 07:52.52 | LetterRip | and there i was about ready to remodel my life based on ya :) |
| 07:52.56 | scorche | Talad: however long it needs to |
| 07:53.08 | Ophiuchi | Talad: not fixed beforehand, but expect 1-2 hours |
| 07:53.32 | Ophiuchi | LetterRip :) |
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| 07:53.37 | Talad | ok, I cannot put in my plan an infinite bar :) |
| 07:53.41 | Talad | 2 hours sounds ok |
| 07:53.44 | robbyoconnor | LOL still hold all time high posts |
| 07:53.51 | scorche | sighs at robbyoconnor |
| 07:54.01 | robbyoconnor | I decided to check |
| 07:54.10 | Ophiuchi | robbyoconnor: most chatty inhabitant? |
| 07:54.19 | robbyoconnor | Ophiuchi: not always |
| 07:54.29 | robbyoconnor | but I did post a lot on the student list |
| 07:54.30 | scorche | Talad: i doubt it will even take that long, but in the envent that you need need to leave, just have your backup admin and/or a mentor you trust to make decisions there |
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| 07:55.40 | angad | !logs |
| 07:55.40 | gsocbot | angad: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 07:56.08 | Ophiuchi | whatever time you pick, it's going to be majorly inconvenient for somebody |
| 07:56.19 | robbyoconnor | 1900UTC :) |
| 07:56.20 | sbose78 | At the bottom of our proposal, there is a "comments" section... |
| 07:56.28 | robbyoconnor | 1200PM EDT |
| 07:56.29 | sbose78 | are we supposed to get comments? |
| 07:56.36 | robbyoconnor | er 300pm EDT |
| 07:56.41 | robbyoconnor | 1200pm PDT |
| 07:56.48 | Ophiuchi | sbose78: maybe. :) |
| 07:56.59 | scorche | sbose78: that depends on if your org chooses to use that part of melange |
| 07:57.06 | DarthGandalf | If your org wishes to put them, sbose78. And you may comment too. |
| 07:57.21 | sbose78 | Did any of them get any ? cause I didnt get any :) |
| 07:57.22 | robbyoconnor | sbose78: if your mentor(s) left public comments you'll see them |
| 07:57.40 | robbyoconnor | otherwise only mentors and admins can see them if they're private |
| 07:57.52 | LetterRip | we left public comments for all of our students |
| 07:57.57 | sbose78 | Is there a system, where I get the notifications emailed ? ;) |
| 07:58.08 | robbyoconnor | sbose78: you get emails if comments are posted |
| 07:58.15 | sbose78 | LetterRip: Are you a mentor? |
| 07:58.23 | robbyoconnor | I seem to remember in 2009 melange brought GAE to its knees |
| 07:58.28 | LetterRip | sbose78: admin for blender |
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| 07:59.13 | LetterRip | and mentor |
| 07:59.17 | LetterRip | so yes |
| 07:59.24 | robbyoconnor | sbose78: if you have questions about your proposal, communicate with your org |
| 07:59.33 | sbose78 | Okay LetterRip. |
| 07:59.43 | sbose78 | Okay robbyoconnor |
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| 08:00.20 | akhil__ | do mentors also face the same hard deadlines as students ? |
| 08:00.30 | robbyoconnor | akhil__: yeah |
| 08:00.51 | robbyoconnor | i believe so |
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| 08:01.01 | LetterRip | akhil__: yeppers |
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| 08:02.32 | scorche | akhil__: although, i believe we have more deadlines ;) |
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| 08:03.37 | LetterRip | admins have slightly more, mentors slightly less than students :) |
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| 08:03.42 | akhil__ | ok... |
| 08:04.05 | th2o | A question : how can I edit my proposal now that the deadline for students applications is past ? Does the org need to take some action to allow it, or did I just miss the right button ? |
| 08:04.20 | LetterRip | Th2o can't |
| 08:04.28 | scorche | th2o: if the org allows you to, they need to hit a button |
| 08:04.45 | LetterRip | pretty sure that deadline for editing is past |
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| 08:05.03 | LetterRip | i don't think we were supposed to add comments past the 20th |
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| 08:05.42 | LetterRip | might misremember though |
| 08:05.50 | th2o | for now at least you can still add comments it seems |
| 08:06.13 | th2o | thanks anyway :) |
| 08:06.17 | LetterRip | i think it is technically possible, but i think it is administratively not supposed to occur :) |
| 08:06.30 | jorrit | We have one slot too many but I don't know if it is still possible to donate that to some other org? |
| 08:06.35 | scorche | if it needs to, i believe you still can do it |
| 08:06.46 | LetterRip | jorrit yeppers :) pick me :) |
| 08:06.55 | dhaun | jorrit: email carols and find out :) |
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| 08:07.05 | jorrit | Already did but she isn't answering currently. |
| 08:07.10 | jorrit | LetterRip, you can use another slot? |
| 08:07.13 | scorche | LetterRip: the only comment i see about that is this from carols, but i dont think it was disabled: "*Step Four:* You have between now and 20 April to review and accept, reject, ignore, and review your student proposals." |
| 08:07.14 | LetterRip | yep |
| 08:07.20 | jorrit | ok |
| 08:07.27 | jorrit | I'll tell Carol then. |
| 08:07.44 | LetterRip | ok - won't cry if we don't :) but we would make good use of it |
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| 08:08.18 | jorrit | LetterRip, I let Carol know that you can have our slot. |
| 08:08.23 | codehaus|ralf | i could enable editing of a proposal a few seconds ago |
| 08:08.24 | LetterRip | ty |
| 08:08.45 | codehaus|ralf | having said that i don't think it makes much now to change a proposal |
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| 08:09.10 | gevaerts | LetterRip: "comments with scores" |
| 08:09.51 | gevaerts | Although I suspect that with the new accept system even that isn't really valid any more |
| 08:09.54 | LetterRip | scorche: there was a statement to the effect of 'do not add comments past the 20th' at least i thought |
| 08:09.54 | LetterRip | could misremember |
| 08:12.20 | mare34 | What does it mean withdraw proposal? |
| 08:12.20 | gevaerts | LetterRip: the timeline says "Please do not add private comments with a nonzero score or mark students as ineligible (unless doing so as part of resolving duplicate accepted students) after this deadline" on the 22nd |
| 08:12.32 | LetterRip | ah ok |
| 08:12.36 | LetterRip | did misremember :) |
| 08:12.42 | LetterRip | thanks |
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| 08:12.45 | th2o | codehaus|ralf, my potential mentor asked me explicitly to improve it, so I would really like to do that ;) ! |
| 08:13.01 | gevaerts | But again I'm pretty sure that scores as such don't matter... |
| 08:13.09 | LetterRip | gevaerts: yeppers |
| 08:14.53 | gevaerts | th2o: recently? I'd expect organisations to be more or less done with choosing proposals by now... |
| 08:15.32 | th2o | I guess that depends on the org too \o/ |
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| 08:15.55 | mare34 | I have noticed that it is possible to edit proposal. |
| 08:15.55 | th2o | I was allowed to edit my proposal just now, so it seems like it is still possible |
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| 08:16.07 | LetterRip | gevaerts: we had a last second change earlier today |
| 08:16.17 | gevaerts | Well yes, but still changing that now can add duplicates, which influences other organisations, which is not nice... |
| 08:16.21 | virous | nope i am not able to edit the proposal |
| 08:16.56 | mare34 | I want to make some little modifications to my proposal. |
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| 08:17.15 | LetterRip | mare34: most orgs won't be reading it between now and dedup |
| 08:17.20 | LetterRip | i suspect |
| 08:17.22 | gevaerts | LetterRip: yes, this happens, but asking students to update proposals now feels as if this isn't an unexpected last minute change to me |
| 08:17.25 | mare34 | OK |
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| 08:17.35 | LetterRip | gevaerts: yeah agreed it seems odd |
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| 08:20.19 | virous | ok |
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| 08:21.52 | BlankVerse | will the waiting list for extra slots be over today ? |
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| 08:22.36 | gevaerts | BlankVerse: yes. The deduplication meeting is the last time at which slots might become available |
| 08:23.15 | LetterRip | BlankVerse: depends on what timezone you are in :) |
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| 08:24.04 | BlankVerse | so the final confirmation for students will be over just after the deduplication meeting , is will be announced public only after 3 days? |
| 08:24.27 | gevaerts | s/will/should/ |
| 08:24.31 | valorie | BlankVerse: it is a buffer |
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| 08:24.41 | valorie | sometimes Stuff Happens |
| 08:25.27 | gevaerts | And possibly google may want to do some sanity checking on the list I guess |
| 08:25.33 | saksham | the dedup thing is today? |
| 08:25.45 | gevaerts | !next | saksham |
| 08:25.45 | gsocbot | saksham: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 08:26.59 | kai | grr, stupid contamination |
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| 08:27.21 | thebolt | kai: heh |
| 08:28.09 | kai | yesterday that cell culture looked fine. I come in on a holiday to get my stuff done and there's some other stuff zooming around in the culture |
| 08:28.10 | robbyoconnor | !countdown |
| 08:28.10 | gsocbot | robbyoconnor: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/Bf4qL |
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| 08:28.42 | kai | I don't mind coming in on a holiday that much, but the bus connections suck, so it'll take me a while to get home |
| 08:29.36 | robbyoconnor | Students: http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 08:30.11 | robbyoconnor | !learn countdown as For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 08:30.12 | gsocbot | robbyoconnor: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Bf4qL, or (#2) For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
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| 08:32.01 | thebolt | kai: yea, must say motivation to work today is not too high.. been in the office since 8.. but since i got some pretty complicated driver/firmware/hardware interaction parts sorted out it feels pretty good |
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| 08:32.38 | thebolt | kai: must say it is nicer to write drivers for stuff when you can also modify the firmware in the device you are interacting with (and look at the signals inbetween with a scope) |
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| 08:35.12 | kai | thebolt: but if your stuff breaks while writing code, you simply roll back in your VCS |
| 08:35.21 | kai | in the lab I need to restart the experiment |
| 08:35.38 | kai | also, it means I need to come in on sunday as well |
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| 08:36.12 | kai | and hope that in the meantime none of my other cultures has died :) |
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| 08:37.37 | kai | oh well, time to head back home |
| 08:37.39 | LetterRip | clearly this calls for developing a virtual presence system :) |
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| 08:38.10 | thebolt | kai: true.. i am however heading for easter vacation now.. a few days in the countryside |
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| 08:38.27 | thebolt | kai: have a nice easter, sorry oyu have to get in sunday.. see you!:) |
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| 08:42.22 | akshayagarwal | !stats |
| 08:42.22 | gsocbot | akshayagarwal: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 08:42.42 | akshayagarwal | !next |
| 08:42.43 | gsocbot | akshayagarwal: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 08:44.07 | TyronX | what about this deduplication meeting on irc, can student in here actually spy out some of the accepted projects? :o |
| 08:44.41 | gevaerts | The deduplication does leak some information, yes |
| 08:44.47 | TyronX | sweet |
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| 08:46.46 | LetterRip | is carols on California time? |
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| 08:50.49 | dhaun | LetterRip: usually, yes |
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| 08:54.20 | LetterRip | well i know usually :) but i also know she is sometimes hanging in europe, i know for part of last years gsoc she was |
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| 09:01.46 | jatin | !slots |
| 09:01.46 | gsocbot | jatin: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 09:05.41 | jatin | ! |
| 09:05.47 | jatin | !next |
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| 10:07.39 | fix | if org has an extra slot,can he give that slot to another organization? |
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| 10:08.56 | DarthGandalf | fix: Yeah, that is what waiting list for. |
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| 10:09.40 | fix | org can give that slot to any he wants? |
| 10:09.50 | fix | or google decides it? |
| 10:10.12 | valorie | google gives the slots to the orgs |
| 10:10.23 | valorie | the orgs decide who deserves them |
| 10:10.37 | Ivanovic | google gives a *number* of slots to orgs and the orgs decide who will take which student |
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| 10:10.50 | DarthGandalf | Google decides, but you can ask carols to give slot to a specific org |
| 10:11.08 | DarthGandalf | In the end, everything is up to google :) |
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| 10:13.49 | akshayagarwal | are the orgs allowed to notify the selected students once the deduplication is over? |
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| 10:14.02 | valorie | no |
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| 10:14.16 | valorie | no one finds out until the 25th |
| 10:14.22 | valorie | sorry |
| 10:14.34 | akshayagarwal | i mean not even a hint? :( |
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| 10:14.44 | beng-nl | !nohints |
| 10:14.46 | beng-nl | drat ;) |
| 10:15.00 | beng-nl | !nocapes |
| 10:15.01 | beng-nl | drat! |
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| 10:16.18 | aghisla | santa claus does not come one day before christmas ;) |
| 10:16.37 | beng-nl | :-) |
| 10:16.42 | piyushmishra | :) |
| 10:16.51 | aghisla | packs gifts |
| 10:17.22 | beng-nl | waves hands, ohh me ohh me! |
| 10:17.50 | angad | lights up fire in the fire place *evil smile* |
| 10:18.25 | piyushmishra | gives the reindeers some good cookies :P |
| 10:18.38 | Ivanovic | eats the cookies |
| 10:18.51 | Ivanovic | why should reindeers get the cookies?!? |
| 10:19.09 | piyushmishra | so that they bring santa to my place :D |
| 10:19.17 | beng-nl | throws a log on the fire |
| 10:19.24 | aghisla | nooo, a flame! |
| 10:19.26 | aghisla | :D |
| 10:19.38 | beng-nl | hmm |
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| 10:19.48 | angad | aghisla: are you a mentor? |
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| 10:20.11 | aghisla | angad: yes |
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| 10:21.03 | angad | aghisla: which org? |
| 10:21.18 | aghisla | osgeo, open source geospatial foundation |
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| 10:21.50 | angad | O_O ok cool |
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| 10:28.27 | in3xes | couple of my friends already know |
| 10:28.35 | in3xes | ;) |
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| 10:29.46 | Ivanovic | in3xes: though (in theory) projects should not tell their students if they will be accepted or not |
| 10:30.02 | in3xes | yeah, in theory |
| 10:30.19 | Ivanovic | yes, there are always some that don't play by the rules |
| 10:30.36 | scorche | not just in theory - orgs are specifically told not to tell students if they are accepted or not |
| 10:30.43 | jorrit | Well sometimes you can't really avoid it. |
| 10:30.47 | jorrit | Like if you want to resolve conflicts. |
| 10:30.48 | Ivanovic | and there are the cases of duplicates where the student is asked something like "you applied to A and to us, for which would you prefer to work?" |
| 10:30.54 | scorche | jorrit: sure you can |
| 10:30.58 | jorrit | Then you have to tell the student so they can make a decision on which org they prefer. |
| 10:31.03 | jorrit | scorche, how? |
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| 10:31.26 | Ivanovic | jorrit: you can do so by asking in advance if the student applied to a different org, roo |
| 10:31.30 | scorche | jorrit: students are free to assume all they want - just the org shouldnt tell them |
| 10:31.30 | Ivanovic | s/roo/too |
| 10:31.31 | DarthGandalf | Orgs can choose between themselves. |
| 10:31.36 | scorche | we ask in advance, yeah |
| 10:31.44 | jorrit | Ivanovic, well ok. And then? Even if they did that doesn't mean it can't be a good proposal for us. |
| 10:32.10 | Ivanovic | jorrit: this just means that there is no need to ask later on when the duplicate appears |
| 10:32.10 | DanKluev | jorrit: then you solve it with other org w/out involving student |
| 10:32.12 | jorrit | And we actually knew the students had applied to different orgs. |
| 10:32.17 | scorche | however, it is easy to approach a student and ask their preference without telling them they will be accepted - sure, the students will likely correctly assume they will be accepted, but as long as the org doesnt tell them.... |
| 10:32.20 | jorrit | Ivanovic, well yes. You still have to ask which one he prefers. |
| 10:32.22 | aghisla | in 2009 i was a duplicate student, and waited until the announcement to know everything, so it's not mandatory to ask the student |
| 10:32.30 | Ivanovic | there is nothing wrong with students to apply to different orgs |
| 10:32.31 | jorrit | Ivanovic, i.e. which organization the student would prefer to work for. |
| 10:32.42 | jorrit | Ivanovic, yes but he can only be accepted for one. |
| 10:32.49 | jorrit | DanKluev, I don't like that. |
| 10:32.57 | jorrit | DanKluev, I want the student to decide. |
| 10:33.22 | Ivanovic | jorrit: if you ask in advance "have you applied to other orgs, too? would you prefer to work for them or for us (this has no impact on us selecting you!) in case both would accept you and you end in a duplicate situation?" |
| 10:33.27 | DanKluev | Student's decision could be less optimal than solving with orgs |
| 10:33.41 | DanKluev | Since some orgs can easily replace that student with other proposal |
| 10:33.43 | Ivanovic | then you don't have to involve the student later on |
| 10:33.45 | DanKluev | And some can't |
| 10:33.53 | jorrit | DanKluev, still think it should be the student's decision. |
| 10:33.57 | aghisla | Ivanovic: correct |
| 10:33.59 | Ivanovic | though some students will probably fear that this *has* some inpact on their changes |
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| 10:34.09 | Ivanovic | jorrit: not always, sorry |
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| 10:34.17 | scorche | DanKluev: no one ever said the student's decision has to be followed - it is merely a factor |
| 10:34.23 | Ivanovic | jorrit: there can eg be cases where there are no other "really good" students for one project |
| 10:34.30 | jorrit | Ivanovic, even then. |
| 10:34.36 | Ivanovic | if a student applies to >1 project, this means that the student is fine with working for both |
| 10:34.36 | jorrit | Ivanovic, even then I would prefer to let the student decide. |
| 10:34.45 | jorrit | Well it is up to you of course. |
| 10:34.49 | jorrit | But that's how I prefer to do things. |
| 10:35.30 | scorche | and this is why each org works it out according to how they wish ;) |
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| 10:35.56 | Ophiuchi | talking to everybody involved is often quite helpful :) |
| 10:36.03 | Ivanovic | scorche: exactly! |
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| 10:36.42 | DanKluev | scorche: but someone already complained here that other org informed student about duplicate w/out consulting with them first |
| 10:37.04 | scorche | DanKluev: hrm? |
| 10:37.28 | DanKluev | Org A and B accepts some student. Org B emails student informing that A and B want him |
| 10:37.40 | Ivanovic | ugh, really bad one! |
| 10:37.41 | scorche | nothing wrong with asking a student their preference - like i said before, you can easily ask them their preference without telling them they are accepted |
| 10:37.44 | DanKluev | A is not happy that B gave out information about acceptance w/out consulting them |
| 10:38.02 | beng-nl | 12:00 #gsoc: <MatthewWilkes> I recently had an email from another mentoring org that CC'ed the student in, which annoyed me |
| 10:38.12 | Ivanovic | IMO the first mail should be to the other org involved, *then*, when both orgs are fine with it, the mail should be sent to the student |
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| 10:38.29 | jorrit | yes, that's how we handled it. |
| 10:38.34 | jorrit | But usually not with email but chat. |
| 10:38.36 | scorche | i agree with Ivanovic |
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| 10:39.33 | scorche | though, it is important to note the main reason for not telling students (to avoid a situation where they were told they were accepted and then something happens so they end up not being accepted) |
| 10:40.22 | Ivanovic | yeah |
| 10:41.29 | DanKluev | Well, other is, it suddenly makes applying to several orgs a great idea â you would get some definitive results 4 days earlier |
| 10:41.47 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: no, you would not |
| 10:42.04 | scorche | DanKluev: as i said before, it isnt a definitive result, and even then, they have to be very good applications to be accepted |
| 10:42.05 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: just applying does not mean that you really have a chance to be accepted |
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| 10:42.14 | Ivanovic | and *serious* applications require a shitload of work |
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| 10:42.54 | DarthGandalf | And orgs still can choose without you. |
| 10:43.27 | DanKluev | Ivanovic: yes, but in this case lack of dedupe email would be an indicator too |
| 10:43.39 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: no, it would not |
| 10:43.40 | scorche | no it wouldnt |
| 10:43.56 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: just because you send in 10 applications does not mean that your changes are 10 times as high |
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| 10:44.09 | Ivanovic | s/changes/chances |
| 10:44.40 | Ivanovic | a *really* good applications that makes things *really* worth to being considert (at least for us at wesnoth) consists of by far more than just the plain proposal text |
| 10:44.52 | scorche | none of the students we are planning on accepting this year are duplicates |
| 10:45.04 | Ivanovic | it also consists of stuff like irc activity ("can we talk and work with the user during 'normal working'") as well as showing coding abilities |
| 10:45.11 | scorche | no asking for them (ignoring the fact that we ask every students during the interview anyway) |
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| 10:45.15 | Ivanovic | scorche: we have no dupes so far either |
| 10:45.35 | Ivanovic | (that is: we had no dupes in the last three years, too) |
| 10:45.40 | Ophiuchi | even very good application writers usually don't manage more than 3 good applications in my experience. |
| 10:46.06 | Ivanovic | okay, we often leave this one as "reference application": http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeProposal_AI_Improvement_Crab |
| 10:46.38 | Ivanovic | it was an application from two years ago of a student that had the clear "if you don't accept this one you are not participating" stamp on it and he became mentor the year afterwards |
| 10:46.53 | Ivanovic | (honestly, what he is able to do is just *wow*) |
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| 10:48.33 | jorrit | That indeed looks like an impressive application. |
| 10:48.37 | DanKluev | Its proposal he submitted initially, or something which was improved afterwards? |
| 10:48.41 | DanKluev | Looks impressive |
| 10:49.18 | scorche | Ivanovic: that proposal... |
| 10:49.24 | scorche | ...its so...beautiful... |
| 10:50.01 | beng-nl | it is |
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| 10:50.38 | scorche | attempts to remember how many orgs killerx was accepted to in one year... |
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| 10:50.51 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: the proposal was, as a good proposal should be, developed during talking with us |
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| 10:50.59 | Ivanovic | cf the history of the wiki page |
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| 10:51.32 | Ivanovic | and yes, this is basically our reference application for stuff like "your timeline needs more work, have a look at 'reference proposal' to see what a good timeline can look like" |
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| 10:52.28 | Ophiuchi | Ivanovic: given that the student already had commit access so probably was a member of the community already, it's almost cheating :-) Other students need to learn to interact first. |
| 10:52.28 | DanKluev | But somehow I doubt that even half of accepted students provide such detailed plan |
| 10:52.39 | Ivanovic | Ophiuchi: no it is not |
| 10:52.53 | Ivanovic | Ophiuchi: at wesnoth everyone basically gets commit access after two to three non trival patches |
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| 10:53.04 | Ivanovic | no matter if gsoc applicant or not |
| 10:53.24 | Ivanovic | and this user just joined after the list of participating orgs was published |
| 10:53.29 | scorche | hrm - i know KillerX got accepted to more than 4 orgs, but i cant seem to find the exact number... |
| 10:53.58 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: there is a reason why this is the *reference* and not the "expected case" |
| 10:54.07 | akshayagarwal | @scorche: who's killerx? |
| 10:54.09 | Ivanovic | but yeah, we do expect some thoughts on the matters |
| 10:54.17 | Ivanovic | including a decent timeline and stuff like this |
| 10:54.30 | scorche | akshayagarwal: the record holder for most orgs accepted in one year |
| 10:55.09 | akshayagarwal | OMG! 4 orgs in 1 year! |
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| 10:55.18 | scorche | it may have been more than that |
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| 10:55.30 | akshayagarwal | any links of his proposal(s) |
| 10:55.48 | scorche | shrugs |
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| 10:56.03 | Ophiuchi | more interestingly, how did he do and what is he doing now? :) |
| 10:56.07 | scorche | but if you are looking for a link to a good proposal, the one Ivanovic linked is *amazing* |
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| 10:57.01 | akshayagarwal | yes, I checked it out, its very inspiring, a must see for every aspirant |
| 10:57.08 | scorche | ah - apparently it was 4 |
| 10:57.15 | Ivanovic | and yeah, when getting a *good* proposal done you need to spend some time |
| 10:57.31 | Ivanovic | and interact with the org to get an idea where the possible rough edges are to be expected |
| 10:57.39 | DanKluev | scorche: well, while its indeed amazing, its timeline is 2 months longer than what GSoC pays for |
| 10:57.41 | akshayagarwal | Ivanovic: "LOADS" of time! |
| 10:58.03 | scorche | DanKluev: so? ;) |
| 10:58.33 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: this is often the case simply because many students have exams during the gsoc time so they start early to have some free days for revisions during gsoc |
| 10:58.59 | DanKluev | scorche: so you cannot expect it from everyone |
| 10:59.00 | Ivanovic | (eg for german students the term starts in april and lasts till beginning of july, the exams following) |
| 10:59.14 | Ivanovic | so spreading the stuff over "more time" is a sane approach to fit gsoc in |
| 10:59.25 | scorche | DanKluev: of course not - but that application is not everyone - it is, seriously, the best i have ever seen.... |
| 10:59.51 | Ivanovic | scorche: hmm, should i mention that we have several on a comparable level? |
| 10:59.57 | scorche | we once had a student almost finish his GSoC project before the "start coding" date - and it was far from an easy topic too |
| 11:00.07 | scorche | Ivanovic: you need to send them my way =P |
| 11:00.12 | Ivanovic | no way! |
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| 11:01.46 | DarthGandalf | booki.cc should have link to that proposal. |
| 11:02.04 | DarthGandalf | In studentguide |
| 11:02.38 | Ivanovic | but i think from the proposal it is clear that it is not possible to create something "like that" just in a dark chamber without any interaction |
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| 11:02.48 | Ivanovic | the student has to be active, ask questions and get into things |
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| 11:04.11 | adarsh | hello people |
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| 11:04.32 | adarsh | by today organizations have finalised the student names |
| 11:04.37 | adarsh | or just shortlisted? |
| 11:05.16 | Ivanovic | adarsh: the student selection basically *has* to be done later today, since then the duplications are being resolved |
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| 11:05.39 | Ivanovic | *but* we are not allowed to tell you the results before monday |
| 11:05.48 | Ivanovic | (when they are officially announced) |
| 11:06.19 | satriani | if i have not received any sort of communication/ review/ comments from the mentor or organization , does it mean i'm not even considered? |
| 11:06.24 | Ophiuchi | adarsh: in 4 hours the orgs should know which students they want to take, plus one or two replacements if one of their favourites goes to another org |
| 11:06.28 | Ivanovic | it means nothing |
| 11:06.38 | DarthGandalf | satriani: it depends on the org. |
| 11:07.16 | Ophiuchi | satriani: it could also mean that your application was obviously good, no need to ask for clarifications. |
| 11:07.42 | Ophiuchi | (although noone finding something to prod at is rare) |
| 11:07.53 | satriani | my org mentor was talking about a lack of slots . i'm just worried my proposal has been looked over becoz of a lack of slots |
| 11:08.10 | satriani | is it possible an org has only 1-2 slots? |
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| 11:08.20 | satriani | i thought it was atleast 4-5 minimum.. |
| 11:08.33 | Ivanovic | no, minimum slots for an org are 1-2 |
| 11:08.35 | ThomasWaldmann | iirc new ones are supposed to have one or two |
| 11:08.54 | Ivanovic | plus there is one *hard* limit: mentor capacities |
| 11:09.02 | Ivanovic | this is where most orgs have the real limit |
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| 11:09.42 | satriani | well in the idea page, it seemed there were a lot of mentors. |
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| 11:10.27 | sin8h | is there any hard-limit regarding the number of proposals that a mentor can handle in GSOC? |
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| 11:10.35 | DanKluev | satriani: if your org participates first time on its own, most likely it was hard-capped at 2 slots |
| 11:10.38 | DanKluev | !slots |
| 11:10.38 | gsocbot | DanKluev: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 11:10.55 | fix | if a orgA has extra slot and orgB wants one slot.then can orgA give its slot to orgB? |
| 11:11.05 | Ivanovic | yes |
| 11:11.13 | DanKluev | fix: it can suggest google (carol) to give it to orgB |
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| 11:11.24 | LetterRip | suggest but not determinant |
| 11:11.28 | satriani | :( |
| 11:11.35 | satriani | should have applied for more org's |
| 11:11.47 | Ivanovic | sin8h: there is no limit set by google, but common sense says that you should not take too many students |
| 11:11.49 | nikhil__ | !logs |
| 11:11.50 | gsocbot | nikhil__: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 11:11.59 | Ivanovic | sin8h: simply because mentoring can be *real* work and time consuming |
| 11:12.09 | fix | this cookie | nikhil |
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| 11:12.25 | gsocbot | fix: Error: No such user. |
| 11:12.27 | raincole | our org have 150+ students candidates.. |
| 11:12.40 | fix | !this cookie | nikhil_ |
| 11:12.40 | gsocbot | fix: Error: No such user. |
| 11:12.43 | DarthGandalf | raincole: what org is that? |
| 11:12.49 | LetterRip | yeah what org? |
| 11:12.51 | raincole | Catroid |
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| 11:12.55 | gsocbot | nikhil__: "this cookie" is for you |
| 11:13.07 | sin8h | I guess it would be kde |
| 11:13.18 | raincole | but we're new org, so the possibility is 1/150 or 1/75? |
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| 11:13.50 | raincole | I'm a student, the number 150 is from a mentor |
| 11:14.02 | DarthGandalf | !chances |
| 11:14.02 | gsocbot | DarthGandalf: "chances" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 11:14.05 | DarthGandalf | ^^ |
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| 11:15.31 | gevaerts | is always surprised at this basic assumption that all proposals are equally likely to be accepted... |
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| 11:16.17 | raincole | But the more student there, more chance that I submit a very similar idea to others, right? |
| 11:16.56 | LetterRip | raincole - yes but it is competition with students at the same or higher quality level that matters |
| 11:17.09 | LetterRip | a weak propsal has zero chance probably |
| 11:17.18 | LetterRip | an amazing one has quite a good chance |
| 11:17.29 | gevaerts | If there's only one proposal that's good enough, it doesn't matter if there are ten or ten thousand others |
| 11:17.30 | anirudh24seven | i guess you might have to look at it like this. "more the students, more the chances of applications better than yours" |
| 11:17.38 | littlehorse18801 | I think the more good student the better. |
| 11:17.55 | littlehorse18801 | because we can improve together. |
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| 11:20.12 | raincole | because it's semi-finished, I think there is no many improvements can be submitted. In fact, a lot of ideas sent to mailing list are similar.. |
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| 11:22.27 | DarthGandalf | There're always ways to improve. If not, project is dead. |
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| 11:23.25 | jrabbit | http://i.imgur.com/22BAZ.png lol |
| 11:24.02 | raincole | I guess a living project is being improved step by step, but I guess a "small step" proposal usually isn't accepted |
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| 11:24.29 | raincole | (maybe it's my fallacy) |
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| 11:24.44 | fix | many new organizations have more number of students(25 - 35 ) than the slots(1 - 2) whereas other organizations have extra slots. |
| 11:24.59 | scorche | jrabbit: not needed here... |
| 11:25.26 | fix | so,students applied to these new organization has less number of chance of getting selected .. |
| 11:25.33 | Ivanovic | raincole: it is normal that several people want to work on the same "project published idea" |
| 11:25.43 | jrabbit | Guess you haven't been hit by the AWS failure yet, lucky. |
| 11:25.44 | Ivanovic | *but* there will always be differences in the "real" proposals |
| 11:26.11 | scorche | jrabbit: no, but it has no relevance to this channel |
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| 11:26.41 | Ivanovic | raincole: especially since the selection is not just based on the text that the mentors read over |
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| 11:26.53 | Ivanovic | it is also based on the impression that the mentors have of the possible students |
| 11:27.21 | Ivanovic | things like "do we think this student is able and likely to manage the project?" as well as "can we work with this student?" matter a *lot* |
| 11:27.37 | Ivanovic | eg for us at wesnoth some activity in irc is important |
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| 11:27.52 | Ivanovic | a student never appearing in irc to chat with us about the project has no chance to be accepted, simple as that |
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| 11:28.26 | Ivanovic | consider that the idea is to possibly get a new (long term) contributor to the project |
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| 11:28.45 | raincole | you are reasonable. I'm just frightened the number |
| 11:28.54 | scorche | sheesh - 4:28 already? i need to get to sleep so i can wake up in time for the dedupe meeting =/ |
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| 11:29.19 | Ivanovic | raincole: numbers alone don't say anything |
| 11:29.24 | fix | if a org has more slots and gets many proposal but these proposals are not so good .Even in this condition chances are that his org would give chance to students. |
| 11:29.27 | Ivanovic | there can be a project with only 10 applications |
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| 11:29.47 | Ivanovic | if those 10 applications are good, it can be more different to select than if there are 100 applications where 98 just suck |
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| 11:30.27 | fix | but chances of this things(98 suck out of 100) is less |
| 11:30.58 | Ivanovic | really? |
| 11:30.59 | DanKluev | Ivanovic: but there is normal distribution, which says 98 out of 100 apps sucking is highly unlikely |
| 11:31.19 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: it also depends on the orgs and their questions asked |
| 11:31.33 | Ivanovic | as well as when the org thinks that the proposal simply sucks |
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| 11:32.18 | fix | so,chances of student gets reduced in case of 100 competitors. |
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| 11:32.43 | Ivanovic | fix: no |
| 11:33.00 | Ivanovic | it depends only on what the student does and how active the student it |
| 11:33.10 | Ivanovic | -it +is |
| 11:33.34 | Ivanovic | fix: chances only matter if the student is only "mediocre" |
| 11:33.57 | Ivanovic | it is really seldom that you have many outstanding proposals |
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| 11:34.44 | Ivanovic | and often orgs that can only choose between accepting a mediocre student or giving away the slot to another org will give away the slot |
| 11:34.58 | fix | Ivanovic: suppose a org has 5- 6 (very) good proposal but only have 2 slots.and those 5 also students are active.and an other org which has 5 -6 only good(not very good) proposals and have 6 slots.then what would happen? |
| 11:35.00 | Ivanovic | yes, there are limits for many orgs regarding how many students they can mentor, this is normal |
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| 11:36.31 | fix | Ivanovic:if a new org wants to take a slot from other org which has extra slot and wants to give it any org?is it possible? |
| 11:36.38 | Ivanovic | fix: the number of slots mainly depends on the size of the og and how many they can mentor |
| 11:36.57 | Ivanovic | if a new org has really many great proposals and many mentors available, a new org can likely get more slots, too |
| 11:37.07 | DanKluev | Also, its quite interesting that many new orgs received more proposals than PSF, which acts as umbrella for 13 projects |
| 11:37.12 | Ivanovic | the main problem is that most new orgs also don't have this many mentors |
| 11:37.20 | Ivanovic | and mentoring can be *really* time intensive |
| 11:37.23 | Nightrose | DanKluev: i really doubt that is true |
| 11:37.29 | adarsh | how to see the proposals of particular IDEA by other people? |
| 11:37.39 | Ivanovic | adarsh: you don't! |
| 11:37.45 | Nightrose | Ivanovic: carol said she'd not give new orgs more than one or two very specifically |
| 11:37.59 | DanKluev | Nightrose: PSF got 89 apps. And some new orgs said that they got over 100-150 |
| 11:38.10 | Ivanovic | Nightrose: there i'd also say that it depends |
| 11:38.20 | Nightrose | DanKluev: yeah but applications don't determine how many slots the org gets |
| 11:38.24 | fix | Ivanovic: is it necessary for a new org to have a backup mentor or have one mentor for only one project?can one mentor not apply for two projects? |
| 11:38.25 | Ivanovic | Nightrose: if this new org is a larger one and well known i guess that they might get more |
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| 11:38.41 | Nightrose | Ivanovic: no according to carol |
| 11:38.50 | Ivanovic | Nightrose: the matter is just that most new orgs are in fact smaller orgs |
| 11:38.59 | Ophiuchi | fix: yes, but it may not be too wise, especially if the mentor has not been through a project yet. |
| 11:39.02 | DanKluev | Nightrose: yeah, but I was talking about number of apps only |
| 11:39.07 | Ivanovic | since the larger projects tend to already be covered by the "established" orgs |
| 11:39.20 | Nightrose | DanKluev: ah ok - sorry - misread |
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| 11:39.53 | fix | Nightrose: it is correct.New org got many applications and have only 2 slots |
| 11:40.06 | Nightrose | fix: i'm aware |
| 11:40.36 | adarsh | this is sad :( |
| 11:41.19 | efgpinto | do you consider an org that did not participate last edition, but did participate before that, a new org? |
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| 11:41.42 | Nightrose | for any student that doesn't get into gsoc: talk to the org if you can do it outside of gsoc anyway - some orgs even have specific programs for these cases |
| 11:41.54 | Nightrose | efgpinto: i think not |
| 11:42.28 | fix | and In gsoc there 1/3(globally) chance of getting selected for a student.so,for new organization,student gets on average 1/50 chance for getting selected so chances for a student who applied for another org(not new) can increase to 1/2 or sometimes 2/3 |
| 11:43.35 | fix | on the basis of previous data (about 1000 students out of 3000) |
| 11:43.40 | LetterRip | fix - new orgs tend to get flooded with lower quality proposals |
| 11:43.44 | DanKluev | Ivanovic: btw, you seem to have very strict standards for applications at wesnoth. Is it secret how much apps you got overall this year? |
| 11:44.06 | raincole | the current data is 1700/5500, in my memory |
| 11:44.07 | Ivanovic | DanKluev: counting those we marked as "invalid"? ;) |
| 11:44.11 | Nightrose | fix: fwiw we'll be able to accept a bit less than 1/3 of our applications and we're (one of) the biggest org |
| 11:44.13 | DanKluev | Yeah, overall |
| 11:44.23 | Ivanovic | we went through and ranked about 25 proposals this year |
| 11:44.26 | DanKluev | Just curious, how much strict standards affect number of apps |
| 11:44.34 | Ivanovic | (after filtering out clear spam as well as a duplicate) |
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| 11:45.07 | raincole | Wait... Ivan, are you one of Wesnoth's developers? |
| 11:45.41 | Ivanovic | yes, this still includes really low quality proposals that are just "i'd like to work on your proposed idea ABC" but with a filled (long!) questionaire |
| 11:45.46 | Ivanovic | raincole: yeah |
| 11:46.07 | LetterRip | Ivanovic: hmm we only had one of those this year |
| 11:46.27 | LetterRip | and one totally random wtf proposal |
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| 11:47.03 | raincole | Ivanovi: not important. I just want to give my respect. It's a good game and I play it a lot. |
| 11:47.13 | Ivanovic | thanks |
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| 11:49.04 | fix | Nightrose: which org you belong? |
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| 11:49.37 | Nightrose | fix: kde |
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| 11:52.49 | fix | still no girl candidate in gsoc :) |
| 11:53.22 | Nightrose | hmm? |
| 11:53.38 | raincole | do you mean the 5000 students are all male? |
| 11:53.42 | fix | girls are rare in gsoc :) |
| 11:53.58 | fix | I don't know the reason |
| 11:54.19 | jorrit | Because girls are rare in programming in general? |
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| 11:54.21 | jorrit | And especially OSS |
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| 11:54.26 | dfighter | uh oh |
| 11:54.29 | dfighter | flamebait topic |
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| 11:54.41 | Nightrose | -.- |
| 11:54.43 | jorrit | Well just my experience. |
| 11:54.50 | sin8h | !next |
| 11:54.50 | gsocbot | sin8h: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 11:54.53 | aghisla | i rarely saw a discussion on gender balance not turning into flame. |
| 11:55.04 | aghisla | or dead ends |
| 11:55.11 | jorrit | I didn't say it was a good thing though. Far from it. |
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| 11:55.44 | sin8h | so reviews and de-duplication meeting will be there on #gsoc or on some other channel at 19:00 UTC? |
| 11:55.51 | brik | fix: there are girls in gsoc too |
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| 11:56.09 | fix | I said "rare" "a few" |
| 11:56.27 | DanKluev | I just hope google would not introduce 'female quotas' in future |
| 11:56.52 | Nightrose | gosh guys... |
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| 11:57.00 | Nightrose | no-one even suggested that |
| 11:57.03 | fix | :) I hope too |
| 11:57.08 | Triskelios | DanKluev: *that* is flamebait |
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| 11:58.10 | dfighter | heh quotas |
| 11:58.20 | dfighter | here we have gypsy quotas in the government |
| 11:58.20 | DanKluev | Triskelios: yeah, I'm sorry, just all these discussions about encouraging females are very close to point of putting males in disadvantage |
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| 11:58.35 | Nightrose | ohhh come on |
| 11:58.53 | dfighter | worst possible solution to problems |
| 11:58.57 | zzzz | that wud be interesting for gsoc. how do u prove a person is female? photos? |
| 11:58.58 | brik | feeling threatened are we? |
| 11:59.00 | Triskelios | DanKluev: you may want to reconsider your worldview |
| 11:59.12 | Nightrose | brik: seriously |
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| 11:59.30 | fix | brik: :) |
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| 12:00.07 | DanKluev | Triskelios: my worldview is that gender doesn't matter. Proposals should be judged solely on ability to deliver and future potential as contributor |
| 12:00.28 | beng-nl | ignores #gsoc until this subject is over |
| 12:00.29 | Nightrose | DanKluev: go and google for geekfeminism wiki - read it - come back here |
| 12:00.31 | Nightrose | :) |
| 12:00.37 | fix | In this gsoc irc list,hardly there would be any girl :p |
| 12:00.56 | brik | DanKluev: isn't that the case atm? |
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| 12:01.22 | Triskelios | DanKluev: no one is suggesting that GSoC should not be gender neutral |
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| 12:01.29 | dfighter | Nightrose I actually did read some of that |
| 12:01.41 | dfighter | and it just made modern feminists more repulsive for me |
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| 12:01.50 | Nightrose | -.- |
| 12:02.10 | Nightrose | you read the wrong parts then it seems |
| 12:02.15 | dfighter | maybe |
| 12:02.17 | dfighter | :) |
| 12:02.23 | dfighter | I'm all for feminism btw |
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| 12:02.24 | Triskelios | fix: what are you basing that on? |
| 12:02.26 | Nightrose | anway - more important stuff to take care of now |
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| 12:03.39 | fix | Triskelios : Just guessing ,Because if there would be any girl there might be any reply of her :) |
| 12:03.50 | fix | on this topic |
| 12:03.54 | fix | :D |
| 12:04.03 | Nightrose | <- is female fwiw |
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| 12:04.06 | aghisla | ? |
| 12:04.08 | Nightrose | so is my co-admin |
| 12:04.11 | Nightrose | so is carol |
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| 12:04.17 | Nightrose | do you need more? |
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| 12:04.46 | Triskelios | fix: are you expecting girls to announce themselves just because you made a remark? |
| 12:04.55 | dfighter | fix there is reply from them |
| 12:04.59 | eoc | fix: so girls jump at your topics just because the topic is silly
:-< I won't participate further, call me if your daily flame is over please |
| 12:05.03 | dhaun | fix: mouth.insert(foot) |
| 12:05.04 | brik | fix: and you're expecting to be able to spot the females replying? |
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| 12:05.17 | dfighter | lol |
| 12:05.26 | Nightrose | haha dhaun |
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| 12:06.04 | DanKluev | GSoC needs gsoc-flame mailing list for these matters |
| 12:06.17 | Nightrose | oh it would be epic |
| 12:06.19 | Nightrose | i'm sure |
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| 12:06.20 | fix | Just some entertaining discussion. now I should back to work :) |
| 12:06.23 | jrabbit | DanKluev: ha |
| 12:07.03 | jrabbit | DanKluev: Re: I'm not a mysoginist but... |
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| 12:08.43 | fix | brik : I am just kidding.I was not expecting really ;) you should have understood :p |
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| 12:09.02 | Triskelios | it's not a very funny joke |
| 12:09.17 | fix | which one? |
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| 12:09.40 | Triskelios | whatever you were kidding about |
| 12:09.52 | brik | I didn't realise there was a joke |
| 12:10.07 | fix | sorry guys if any one got hurt because of this discussion . |
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| 12:10.51 | brik | throws some cookies and chocolates around the room |
| 12:11.20 | fix | http://nmap.org/soc/ . see project "slacker" |
| 12:11.54 | brik | haha, I liked that one |
| 12:12.25 | piyushmishra | haha |
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| 12:14.14 | kodos | i was thinking about applying for that lol |
| 12:14.28 | DanKluev | I wonder how many people actually applied for that |
| 12:14.59 | brik | a true slacker would be too lazy to apply for it though |
| 12:15.21 | kodos | thats why you have to submit your application blank except for your name |
| 12:16.11 | Ivanovic | kodos: you still have the signup and enter *lots* of data for the account creation at google! |
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| 12:16.57 | Ivanovic | plus this part does not fit to a "real" slacker either: "You will report these activities in a weekly status report so the rest of us can live our lives vicariously through yours. " |
| 12:16.58 | raincole | how I waste my time is to fill more and more forms :) |
| 12:17.28 | vinum | At FOSSASIA we have many female contributors. |
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| 12:19.14 | vinum | you don't really understand why, maybe it is like soccer? |
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| 12:20.11 | vinum | cultural gender bias, self enforcing... |
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| 12:21.33 | qqqqq111 | there used to be one last year ... don't remember the name |
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| 12:22.01 | dbolser | !bots |
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| 12:22.08 | gsocbot | piyushmishra: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 12:22.08 | jatin | !bots |
| 12:22.16 | ajedwards | !botabuse |
| 12:22.16 | DanKluev | !botabuse | qqqqq111 |
| 12:22.16 | gsocbot | ajedwards: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 12:22.17 | gsocbot | qqqqq111: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 12:22.33 | dbolser | 14:46 < DanKluev> >I want to collaborate without strict hierarchies |
| 12:22.34 | ajedwards | good timing DanKluev ;) |
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| 12:22.59 | dbolser | you said, most projects don't work like that |
| 12:23.12 | dbolser | doesn't mean it shouldn't be like that ;-) |
| 12:23.14 | DanKluev | dbolser: yeah. You have to have some hierarchy |
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| 12:23.22 | dbolser | not in my opinion |
| 12:23.28 | DanKluev | Because people rely on the code you provide |
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| 12:23.35 | DanKluev | And you have to be responsible with that |
| 12:23.47 | dbolser | you have a responsibilty to your dream |
| 12:24.06 | dbolser | that is the only authority I'm willing to accept |
| 12:24.08 | piyushmishra | lol deep |
| 12:24.27 | dbolser | piyushmishra: ;-) its a quote from a saul williams film |
| 12:24.37 | DanKluev | Besides, hierarchy and policies are healthy for internal processes too |
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| 12:24.49 | DanKluev | I *hate* when people break master |
| 12:25.17 | dbolser | git is anarcy in action ;-) |
| 12:25.48 | dbolser | just popped in to catch up with lezard, be I see s/he isn't around |
| 12:25.57 | aghisla | grammer anarcy! :P |
| 12:26.05 | dbolser | sorry for effectively trolling |
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| 12:28.51 | qqqqq111 | !botabuse |
| 12:28.52 | chimmi | !logs |
| 12:28.52 | gsocbot | qqqqq111: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
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| 12:30.22 | gsocbot | qqqqq111: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
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| 12:34.24 | piyushmishra | !slots |
| 12:34.25 | gsocbot | piyushmishra: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 12:48.15 | ajedwards | simple enough to write.. |
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| 12:52.36 | ajedwards | some might disagree, but mIRC has its own language which is very simple to learn and quite powerful too |
| 12:54.08 | hiemanshu | there are loads, afaik gsocbot is supybot |
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| 13:07.46 | gsocbot | lolfrenz: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 13:07.52 | lolfrenz | !countdown |
| 13:07.52 | gsocbot | lolfrenz: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Bf4qL, or (#2) For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
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| 13:12.05 | downeym | Seems the countdown should be for 2 hours earlier, no? |
| 13:12.09 | sri13 | !next |
| 13:12.10 | gsocbot | sri13: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 13:17.51 | vinum | And how you get a list of commands? |
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| 13:18.37 | fix | I wonder if slacker is the real project @http://nmap.org/soc/ |
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| 13:22.49 | fix | If a org has free slot ?then how can other org which is lacking of slots would know about it? |
| 13:23.11 | |Kev| | They wouldn't. |
| 13:23.33 | |Kev| | When an org returns a slot to the pool, Carols allocates it to someone lacking slots. |
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| 13:23.44 | |Kev| | She said the deadline for that was yesterday, though. |
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| 13:24.06 | fix | now,,it can't be possible? |
| 13:24.27 | fix | if any org wants to give its slot to another? |
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| 13:24.43 | |Kev| | (2011-04-22 01:30:31) |Kev|: carols: What's the latest time we can return a slot to the pool and you still be able to do something useful with it? The other org on a duplicate of ours is still working out what they want to do. |
| 13:24.52 | |Kev| | (2011-04-22 01:30:50) carols: |Kev|: um, probably some time later today? |
| 13:25.07 | nemo | ooh |
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| 13:25.12 | nemo | crosses fingers |
| 13:25.23 | |Kev| | Note that that was yesterday. |
| 13:25.30 | nemo | aw. damn :( |
| 13:25.35 | nemo | oh well |
| 13:25.48 | nemo | we got a couple of slots, guess we should be grateful for what we got :) |
| 13:26.04 | DanKluev | fix: IIRC, timeline said you should not change accepted students after today except for dedupe, so more slots would not help |
| 13:26.09 | nemo | actually, is more breaking the news to the students that will hurt |
| 13:26.21 | nemo | DanKluev: um. wouldn't dedupe free up slots? |
| 13:26.32 | |Kev| | nemo: Technically you won't be breaking it to the students, Google will. |
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| 13:26.38 | nemo | heh |
| 13:27.08 | DanKluev | nemo: but re-assigning them could induce new dupes |
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| 13:27.38 | fix | so,reassigning is not possible now? |
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| 13:28.41 | trojanware | !timeline |
| 13:28.42 | gsocbot | trojanware: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
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| 13:28.50 | fix | so,requesting slot from pool is of no use now? |
| 13:28.52 | trojanware | !next |
| 13:28.53 | gsocbot | trojanware: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 13:28.55 | DanKluev | fix: (2011-04-22 03:23:47) carols: LetterRip: you won't be murdered until 17:00 UTC. changes after that are worthy of my wrath |
| 13:29.17 | DanKluev | Whatever that implies :) |
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| 13:29.59 | fix | deadline is today ,17:00 UTC. |
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| 13:30.10 | jatin | !next |
| 13:30.11 | gsocbot | jatin: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 13:30.11 | nemo | hm |
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| 13:30.28 | nemo | so we have until 17:00 UTC to maybe acquire a slot if someone wanted to donate one? :) |
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| 13:30.42 | nemo | so 3½h |
| 13:30.55 | fix | nemo : it seems we have time |
| 13:31.35 | fix | would carol assign slot to org?and what would be basis? |
| 13:31.51 | jatin | but if the meet is at 1900, then how can duplicate slots be acquired by 1700 |
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| 13:32.05 | nemo | don't think that is dupes |
| 13:32.07 | nemo | just unused ones |
| 13:32.42 | jatin | unused, is that even possible |
| 13:32.42 | fix | nemo : do you know what is the procedure of assigning unused slots to a org? |
| 13:32.49 | gevaerts | I'd say requesting more slots (i.e. increasing the number in melange) makes sense until after the meeting. *Expecting* more slots though won't make much sense |
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| 13:33.18 | nemo | fix: nope. I'm not even an admin for our org |
| 13:33.26 | jatin | Will the discussion be public? |
| 13:33.31 | nemo | fix: I just started paying attention as things came down to wire |
| 13:33.44 | jle | Like your students. :p |
| 13:33.47 | nemo | esp since he says he can't attend the meeting, so I figured I'd try to, if I can get off work early |
| 13:33.53 | nemo | jle: hehe |
| 13:33.56 | |Kev| | fix: If Carol has spare slots, she assigns them. |
| 13:33.58 | nemo | jle: well it wasn't my responsibility |
| 13:34.03 | nemo | jle: you actually had one :-p |
| 13:34.04 | |Kev| | Although as I previously noted, she said the deadline for that was yesterday. |
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| 13:34.22 | nemo | jle: I was happy to let koda do all the work :) |
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| 13:35.04 | fix | |Kev| : but it seems that deadline is until 17:00 UTC. and can a org request for a slot from unused slots ? |
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| 13:35.32 | DanKluev | fix: 17:00 UTC today was pointed out as deadline for changing accepted students |
| 13:35.34 | |Kev| | fix: The deadline for orgs changing which students the accepted is 1700. |
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| 13:36.02 | |Kev| | fix: And orgs don't need to do anything special to request more slots. If they've been given fewer than they asked for, Carols knows. |
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| 13:37.19 | fix | |Kev| : deduplication would produce unused slots then can't they be alloted to any org which is lacking of slots? |
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| 13:37.40 | fix | and deduplication is today |
| 13:38.06 | fix | !patience | nikhil__ |
| 13:38.07 | gsocbot | fix: Error: No such user. |
| 13:38.35 | jatin | !patience |
| 13:38.36 | gsocbot | jatin: "patience" is Patience is very important in GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 13:39.10 | jkwood | Deduplication is for resolving the last few conflicts. If someone loses a student due to deduplication, they don't automatically lose that slot, unless they voluntarily yield it. |
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| 13:39.29 | |Kev| | fix: Carol could choose to do that if she wanted, but it seems like a whole lot of pain for her to go through. I imagine any orgs that haven't resolved matters by the dedupe meeting would just lose their slots. No-one should really still have dupes. |
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| 13:39.47 | |Kev| | (Unless they had backup students) |
| 13:39.48 | chinthaka | !next |
| 13:39.48 | gsocbot | chinthaka: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 13:40.50 | saksham | !bored |
| 13:41.06 | saksham | !opensource |
| 13:41.13 | fix | |Kev| : that's why I was asking to save those unused slots .if some org has no backup student and is it still be possible for that org to give its slot to another org? |
| 13:41.16 | |Kev| | !botabuse | saksham |
| 13:41.16 | gsocbot | saksham: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
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| 13:41.55 | fix | saksham: afterall it is bot :) |
| 13:42.06 | nemo | buubot is fun to play with since he has his own channel and evaluates code in 3 languages |
| 13:42.21 | nemo | used to be fun to try to find an exploit, but I don't think anything has been found in years |
| 13:42.55 | nemo | actually, he might be up to 4+ now |
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| 13:42.55 | nemo | I think he does ruby too |
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| 13:44.34 | adarsh | check |
| 13:44.46 | adarsh | is the time for finalising the student over? |
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| 13:45.09 | jkwood | No, it's in a little over 5 hours. |
| 13:45.15 | Vishrut | factoids search #gsoc |
| 13:45.21 | jkwood | (The final deduplication meeting, anyway.) |
| 13:46.05 | saksham | !gsoc amifat |
| 13:46.22 | saksham | !amifat |
| 13:46.23 | gsocbot | saksham: "amifat" is http://americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=mu.shirts |
| 13:46.29 | Vishrut | !next |
| 13:46.29 | gsocbot | Vishrut: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 13:46.29 | saksham | !thanks |
| 13:46.30 | gsocbot | saksham: "thanks" is You're welcome! |
| 13:46.43 | blast007 | saksham: do you understand what "please do so in a private /query" means? |
| 13:46.46 | fix | |Kev|:(there is duplication between atutor and moin and autor would give its slot to pool as said by one of atutor's mentor yesterday).so is not it possible to assign that slot to other org now? |
| 13:47.17 | Vishrut | private /query gsocbot !next |
| 13:47.19 | |Kev| | If autor wanted to give a slot back to the pool, they should really have done so yesterday. |
| 13:47.31 | DanKluev | fix: only carol knows for sure |
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| 13:47.45 | |Kev| | fix: But as I've said assorted times by now. This is up to Carol. |
| 13:47.58 | Vishrut | private /query #gsoc !next |
| 13:48.09 | DanKluev | Vishrut: w/out "private" |
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| 13:48.38 | fix | thank you guys |
| 13:49.35 | akshayagr | Vishrut: you could also do that by actually double clicking on the gsocbot user |
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| 13:50.25 | vikash | Is the result out for gsoc |
| 13:50.28 | vikash | ? |
| 13:50.35 | jkwood | No. |
| 13:50.40 | fix | wait till 25th |
| 13:50.43 | brik | vikash: 3 days to go |
| 13:50.51 | nat_man2 | !next |
| 13:50.52 | gsocbot | nat_man2: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 13:51.10 | vikash | What about duplication meeting |
| 13:51.23 | akshayagr | 3 long, big, huge days to go! :( |
| 13:51.32 | vikash | akshayagr, +1 |
| 13:51.36 | nemo | keeps refreshing hoping for a miracle |
| 13:51.41 | vikash | !next |
| 13:51.41 | gsocbot | vikash: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 13:51.54 | vikash | !commands |
| 13:52.09 | akshayagr | vikash: please query the bot in private |
| 13:52.29 | akshayagr | you can actually play a lot with it in private |
| 13:52.43 | vikash | ok! i didnt know that at all |
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| 13:52.54 | waynenguyen | !next |
| 13:52.54 | gsocbot | waynenguyen: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 13:52.57 | akshayagr | vikash: pleasure! |
| 13:53.06 | brik | vikash: that's for the organisations to sort out duplicates, results are not announced until the 25th |
| 13:53.17 | vikash | ok ! |
| 13:53.20 | vikash | thanks brik |
| 13:53.33 | akshayagr | although *some* info does leak out during dedup |
| 13:54.14 | DanKluev | akshayagr: only for those, who applied to more than one org |
| 13:54.28 | vikash | akshayagr, are you a student? |
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| 13:55.30 | akshayagr | DanKuev:ya, now I wish I had applied to multiple orgs lolz :) |
| 13:55.38 | akshayagr | vikash: yes |
| 13:56.02 | vikash | should I query you |
| 13:56.22 | akshayagarwal | sure |
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| 13:57.37 | adit | guys any one using irc behind a proxy server ? |
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| 14:00.00 | apurvtwr | adit: yes |
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| 14:00.31 | adit | @apurvtwr what client do you use |
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| 14:01.14 | akshayagarwal | bot not working in private! |
| 14:01.16 | Kodoque | HI do you know if their will be a debrief like for the mentor org? |
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| 14:01.37 | |Kev| | Kodoque: If you are a student, and want to know why you weren't accepted, you should speak to the org. |
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| 14:02.04 | philogb | Hi Everybody! I have a question and couldn't find the answer anywhere: I was wondering if there's a way to "unignore" a student proposal? |
| 14:02.09 | |Kev| | There won't be a meeting to tell 2000 students why they weren't accepted. At least I'd be amazed if there was. |
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| 14:02.24 | apurvtwr | adit: my proxy server blocks clients blocks port 6667 |
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| 14:02.39 | anth_x | more to the point, google has no way of knowing. only the orgs can tell you. |
| 14:02.51 | akshayagr | i had tried querying the bot sometime before, it was working fine then |
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| 14:02.59 | Kodoque | ok thanks , and yes amazing it would be, maybe PANDA could find another use then :) |
| 14:03.01 | apurvtwr | I am use webchat.freenode.net webpage |
| 14:03.02 | akshayagr | but now its stopped responding |
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| 14:03.19 | adit | apurvtwr same with my school proxy server too. and i am using the same |
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| 14:04.18 | apurvtwr | then choice of client won't help you. |
| 14:04.47 | dstn | philogb: in the dashboard list of proposals, if the "Status" column heading has a pulldown menu, set it to "Invalid" |
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| 14:05.27 | adit | Is |Kev| a bot ? :) just curious |
| 14:05.41 | apurvtwr | :D |
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| 14:06.05 | |Kev| | adit: How to make friends and influence people. Congratulations. |
| 14:06.26 | philogb | Hi dstn , thanks for your answer, I only have " Title Score Average Last modified Student Should accept Organization " as columns |
| 14:06.42 | philogb | I don't have "status" |
| 14:06.49 | adit | |Kev| lol an intelligent bot well trained |
| 14:06.51 | |Kev| | philogb: Then enable the column? |
| 14:06.55 | fix | adit : i think you got answer :) |
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| 14:07.32 | eoc | !botabuse 2 | akshayagr |
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| 14:08.00 | eoc | :-/ |
| 14:08.16 | gevaerts | 2? |
| 14:08.18 | eoc | !botabuse 2 |
| 14:08.32 | philogb | Great |Kev| dstn , that seemed to work, thank you very much! |
| 14:08.34 | eoc | yeah, the second entry which explains how to do the queries |
| 14:08.43 | gevaerts | !botabuse |
| 14:08.44 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 14:08.59 | gevaerts | right |
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| 14:09.26 | nirmalfdo | next! |
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| 14:10.00 | nirmalfdo | !next |
| 14:10.00 | gsocbot | nirmalfdo: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 14:13.03 | jkwood | !more |
| 14:13.03 | gsocbot | jkwood: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. |
| 14:13.04 | Talad | !next |
| 14:13.04 | gsocbot | Talad: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 14:13.15 | jkwood | !botabuse |
| 14:13.16 | gsocbot | jkwood: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 14:13.16 | Talad | !deadline |
| 14:13.17 | jkwood | !more |
| 14:13.17 | gsocbot | Talad: "deadline" is Proposals must be assigned to mentors by 7:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/OOYuO). Proposals must be ranked/scored by 17:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/JDKkg). |
| 14:13.18 | gsocbot | jkwood: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. |
| 14:13.23 | jkwood | ... |
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| 14:15.45 | sumanah | Google administrators: last night I gave back a slot via the Melange slot transfer interface, and it is still showing as pending. Will Google admins be resolving slot transfers today, before the deadline? |
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| 14:33.35 | jorrit | Time to go |
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| 14:36.45 | nemo | sumanah: my understanding is it is unfortunately too late |
| 14:36.49 | nemo | shame, but what can you do |
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| 14:37.46 | subrahmanyam | any mentors are available online? |
| 14:39.06 | downeym | !anyone |
| 14:39.06 | gsocbot | downeym: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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| 14:49.30 | gsocbot | irahul: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 14:53.28 | zzzz | !ask |
| 14:53.28 | gsocbot | zzzz: "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 14:54.25 | zzzz | !blue |
| 14:54.25 | gsocbot | zzzz: "blue" is the color used to mark an inactive button in melange. No need to click it. Also see !orange |
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| 14:58.16 | LetterRip | someone just made the mistake i was afraid of making |
| 14:58.28 | socketguru | what? |
| 14:58.38 | LetterRip | emailing the gsoc mentors list that is for all mentors when i meant to email just the mentors for my org |
| 14:59.11 | gevaerts | oops... |
| 14:59.15 | LetterRip | so he just emailed us all which project to accept :) |
| 14:59.21 | gevaerts | Let's vote! |
| 14:59.33 | LetterRip | i considered it :) |
| 14:59.33 | gevaerts | prefers the first one |
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| 15:00.38 | aghisla | i'd pick POSIX |
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| 15:00.59 | gevaerts | also wouldn't name the projects here |
| 15:01.01 | dberkholz | i'd go with posix |
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| 15:01.51 | dberkholz | posix is kind of a generic term, pretty hard to guess which student or even org it might be |
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| 15:02.01 | dberkholz | without seeing that email = |
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| 15:11.42 | gsocbot | fix: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 15:12.50 | GautamGupta | Is the GCI part of google-melange.com deleted? |
| 15:13.08 | GautamGupta | All the links like http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/show_ranking/google/gci2010 are broken |
| 15:13.08 | autocat | what;'s GCI |
| 15:13.15 | GautamGupta | Google Code-in |
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| 15:13.40 | autocat | they're changing stuff for dedup, it could be a temporary blip |
| 15:14.29 | |Kev| | GautamGupta: I'd be inclined to ask next week, in #melange, once the GSoC commotion has died down a bit. |
| 15:14.51 | sumanah | |Kev|: do you know whether slot transfers will be taken care of before 17:00 UTC? (I initiated a slot transfer last night) |
| 15:14.52 | GautamGupta | Hmm |
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| 15:15.26 | autocat | !next |
| 15:15.26 | gsocbot | autocat: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 15:15.30 | |Kev| | sumanah: I only know that when I asked Carol yesterday she said that "Sometime today" (i.e. yesterday) was the last time she'd be dealing with transfers. |
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| 15:15.37 | sumanah | Crap. OK. |
| 15:16.27 | sumanah | |Kev|: If there was an announced deadline for giving away slots, I missed it, and the Melange capability was still there as of yesterday late afternoon. :/ |
| 15:16.36 | sumanah | (that is, about 3pm California time) |
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| 15:17.06 | sumanah | |Kev|: Since mine is still "pending" I'm going to guess Carol will have harsh words for me during the dedupe meeting. Bleh. |
| 15:17.17 | sumanah | Well, that's the way the cookie.txt crumbles |
| 15:17.23 | sumanah | thanks for the info, |Kev| |
| 15:17.27 | |Kev| | sumanah: I have not seen such a thing announced. I'm aware of two datetimes - one of 'sometime today' (yesterday) when I asked her, and that 7amGMT today everything had to be assigned. |
| 15:17.35 | |Kev| | I know nothing beyond that, sorry. |
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| 15:17.47 | sumanah | |Kev|: no prob! I asked you because you seem hip and with-it |
| 15:17.59 | |Kev| | I am neither, but I'm glad I play it on TV. |
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| 15:21.04 | jimbozhang | !next |
| 15:21.04 | gsocbot | jimbozhang: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 15:22.28 | |Kev| | Evening carols. |
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| 15:23.48 | carols | hey |Kev| |
| 15:24.10 | gevaerts | brings in some coffee |
| 15:24.26 | |Kev| | carols: Lots of people asking today if they can still donate slots btw (not me, for a change :)). |
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| 15:24.32 | sumanah | carols: I did a slot transfer yesterday around 3pm Pacific. It is still pending. |
| 15:24.38 | |Kev| | And there we go! |
| 15:24.46 | sumanah | I'm the one who asked |Kev| :) |
| 15:24.47 | carols | |Kev|: thanks for letting me know |
| 15:24.52 | carols | sumanah: ill check it now |
| 15:24.56 | sumanah | ok, thanks carols |
| 15:25.02 | |Kev| | sumanah: Not the only one :) |
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| 15:25.34 | sumanah | I'm not alone! We could have a support group. Slot-Transferring Mentors Anonymous. STMA. |
| 15:25.38 | apurvtwr | !deadline |
| 15:25.38 | gsocbot | apurvtwr: "deadline" is Proposals must be assigned to mentors by 7:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/OOYuO). Proposals must be ranked/scored by 17:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/JDKkg). |
| 15:26.13 | nemo | refreshes slot list again |
| 15:26.24 | aghisla | subscribes to STMA |
| 15:26.37 | sumanah | carols: in case you need it, my org is Wikimedia Foundation, a.k.a. MediaWiki. |
| 15:26.44 | carols | sumanah: thanks |
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| 15:27.36 | sumanah | thanks for taking care of it, carols, and sorry that it was so late in the process. |
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| 15:28.22 | downeym | Is it possible for org admins to see # of proposals submitted to each organization? |
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| 15:29.06 | thiago | downeym: for their own orgs, yes |
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| 15:29.20 | downeym | s/each/every other/ |
| 15:29.22 | fix | is it possible for a org to get a slot from another org which has extra slots? |
| 15:29.25 | sumanah | !numbers |
| 15:29.35 | sumanah | !metrics |
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| 15:29.48 | AKG | !numbers |
| 15:29.52 | thiago | downeym: no, I don't think you get to find that |
| 15:29.54 | varg_vik | !numbers |
| 15:29.55 | AKG | !next |
| 15:29.55 | gsocbot | AKG: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 15:30.00 | thiago | fix: yes, an org can donate slots to another or back to the general pool |
| 15:30.19 | fix | is deadline not over yet? |
| 15:30.27 | thiago | fix: deadline for? |
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| 15:30.51 | fix | thiago: deadline for reassigning slots |
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| 15:31.02 | thiago | I don't know |
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| 15:31.35 | fix | carols : is deadline for reassigning slots over? |
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| 15:31.45 | carols | fix: in an hour and a half. |
| 15:31.47 | sumanah | !numapps |
| 15:31.47 | gsocbot | sumanah: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year; 5474 proposals were submitted by 3731 students. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 15:34.12 | dberkholz | when will people realize autocompletion isn't an excuse to not read what you've written... |
| 15:34.15 | sha26 | fix: which org do u belong ? |
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| 15:34.54 | fix | sha26:you already know |
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| 15:35.34 | fix | this cookie | sha26 |
| 15:35.45 | fix | !this cookie | sha26 |
| 15:35.45 | gsocbot | sha26: "this cookie" is for you |
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| 15:38.00 | jatin | !slots |
| 15:38.00 | gsocbot | jatin: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
| 15:38.05 | jatin | !next |
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| 15:41.12 | sha26 | fix: why can't you just give your answer straight ? I mean is it a problem for you to disclose the name of your org ? |
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| 15:47.08 | gsocbot | sha26: "gsoc" is Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums |
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| 15:56.58 | |Kev| | Oh, cookies sound lovely, thanks. |
| 15:57.27 | gevaerts | grabs two non-duplicate cookies |
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| 15:57.29 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
| 15:57.49 | carols | you're welcome, gevaerts :-) about the only things that aren't duplicates today :-) |
| 15:57.53 | carols | you're welcome |Kev| |
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| 15:59.30 | gevaerts | I'm pretty sure the coffee and tea also aren't :) |
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| 16:00.08 | carols | gevaerts: i think there's only one open source couch too :-) |
| 16:00.12 | wknight8111 | carols: I submitted a slot transfer today, but then I just got an email that says we have a slot mismatch. Will that even itself out? |
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| 16:00.26 | carols | wknight8111: check your dashboard to be sure. |
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| 16:00.33 | carols | all trasnfers are done as of right now |
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| 16:00.59 | gevaerts | carols: one of the solid facts of life, indeed :) |
| 16:01.09 | wknight8111 | carols: still says we have a mismatch. that one slot doesn't look like it got transferred |
| 16:01.12 | downeym|OpenMRS | Is anyone from OpenNMS in here? |
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| 16:01.22 | carols | wknight8111: pm? |
| 16:01.34 | cr4zyb0y | one hour les |
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| 16:02.00 | mar12 | hola |
| 16:02.04 | mar12 | hello |
| 16:02.31 | mar12 | hi |
| 16:02.38 | adam_vollrath | How exactly does de-duplication happen? What decisions might organizations make during the meeting? Is there an article somewhere describing this? |
| 16:03.14 | carols | adam_vollrath: the organizations talk to each other nicely and decide who wants the student more. if they don't come to a decision in 5 minutes i decide for them. |
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| 16:04.06 | adam_vollrath | Thank you for your time. |
| 16:04.17 | lolfrenz | 5 minutes? |
| 16:04.21 | DarthGandalf | Is it already 19.00? |
| 16:04.24 | DarthGandalf | UTC |
| 16:04.36 | sumanah | DarthGandalf: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=Gsoc+2011+-+End+of+reviews%2C+deduplication+meeting+on+IRC&day=22&month=04&year=2011&hour=19&min=00&sec=00&p0=0 |
| 16:04.56 | sumanah | lolfrenz: I think she meant, within 5 minutes for each discussion |
| 16:05.08 | greggay | carols: we had another duplicate with Sakai this morning, that has since been resolved. The student had suggested he would withdraw the Sakai propsal. Its still showing up as a duplicate though. |
| 16:05.20 | carols | greggay: pm me? |
| 16:05.25 | DarthGandalf | sumanah: ah.. thanks |
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| 16:08.03 | liuw | !log |
| 16:08.03 | gsocbot | liuw: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 16:08.07 | liuw | !logs |
| 16:08.07 | gsocbot | liuw: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 16:08.45 | nirmalfdo | carols, Shouldn't an org ask the preference from the student before the meeting? |
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| 16:09.07 | carols | nirmalfdo: no, you dont have to. if the student applied to both projects we assume he/she is willing to work with either. |
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| 16:09.30 | dberkholz | it's nice to have the info in hand so you can take it into consideration |
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| 16:09.38 | nirmalfdo | carols, ok thanks! Actually I'm a student :) |
| 16:09.43 | carols | nirmalfdo: ok |
| 16:09.45 | dberkholz | but there's no guarantee that you'll end up with your 1st choice |
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| 16:15.56 | ihalip | !timeline |
| 16:15.56 | gsocbot | ihalip: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
| 16:16.10 | samiran | !deadline |
| 16:16.11 | gsocbot | samiran: "deadline" is Proposals must be assigned to mentors by 7:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/OOYuO). Proposals must be ranked/scored by 17:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/JDKkg). |
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| 16:21.12 | akashm1990 | !deadline |
| 16:21.12 | gsocbot | akashm1990: "deadline" is Proposals must be assigned to mentors by 7:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/OOYuO). Proposals must be ranked/scored by 17:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/JDKkg). |
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| 16:21.49 | vinum | !next |
| 16:21.50 | gsocbot | vinum: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 16:22.24 | rbuels | i just filled out a 'slot transfer' to send some slots back to the pool, but the status for my org still shows it as having the old number |
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| 16:22.34 | carols | rbuels: ill transfer it now |
| 16:22.38 | rbuels | nods |
| 16:22.45 | subrahmanyam | can students also join this irc?? |
| 16:22.53 | wknight8111 | carols is the best :) |
| 16:23.03 | carols | thanks wknight8111 :-) |
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| 16:23.17 | carols | rbuels: all transfers should be done now |
| 16:23.17 | rbuels | carols: there, i see the update, thanks |
| 16:23.23 | rbuels | carols++ #jinx |
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| 16:23.38 | carols | :-) |
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| 16:24.28 | jle | subrahmanyam: I'm a student, I've said as much, and nobody has kicked me out yet. :) |
| 16:24.55 | subrahmanyam | jle can i have ur gmail id pls.. |
| 16:25.02 | subrahmanyam | i have some doubts.. |
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| 16:25.04 | adam_vollrath | I don't think this channel is access controlled |
| 16:25.19 | jle | subrahmanyam: You'll have to take me at my word. |
| 16:25.30 | SRabbelier | subrahmanyam: we might move to a different channel |
| 16:25.33 | sumanah | "i have a doubt" == I have questions |
| 16:25.41 | subrahmanyam | wat jle? |
| 16:25.53 | carols | subrahmanyam: why are you asking for people's gmail ids? |
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| 16:26.28 | jle | subrahmanyam: Oh, sorry. I misunderstood. Why do you want my gmail ID? |
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| 16:26.37 | subrahmanyam | i asked id becoz i wont disturb the channel.. |
| 16:26.45 | jle | Just /query me. |
| 16:26.51 | akashm1990 | the channel is for discussions only.. |
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| 16:27.27 | subrahmanyam | do the mentors contact if there are any conflicts ?? |
| 16:27.48 | akashm1990 | they may |
| 16:27.52 | SRabbelier | dberkholz, Nightrose: what, nothing about not being an ass on the mentors list? |
| 16:27.54 | akashm1990 | its upto them |
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| 16:28.04 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: *hug* ;-) |
| 16:28.18 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: you can add it in the comments |
| 16:28.18 | SRabbelier | Nightrose: fair enough ^^ |
| 16:28.41 | anirudh24seven | subrahmanyam: you can always chat privately in irc using /query |
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| 16:29.07 | subrahmanyam | thanq everybody |
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| 16:29.48 | ankit_frenz | !appnums |
| 16:29.58 | bugQ | !numapps |
| 16:29.59 | gsocbot | bugQ: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year; 5474 proposals were submitted by 3731 students. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 16:30.08 | ankit_frenz | lol mistyped |
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| 16:30.52 | GaryB|OpenCV | Just logging in to get ready for the big denouement. |
| 16:30.52 | jatin | if there any extran slots in the pool , then on what basis will those slots be distributed among projects? |
| 16:31.03 | dberkholz | SRabbelier: i didn't really think that was mentor-specific. maybe we need a 4th post for "DOs and DON'Ts: Human Edition" |
| 16:31.09 | carols | jatin: they wont be. after the IRC meeting no further slots are moved. |
| 16:31.24 | SRabbelier | dberkholz: yes! ^__^ |
| 16:32.58 | jatin | if that is the case, then why 3 extra days are left for the announcements from now on? |
| 16:33.16 | subrahmanyam | yeah.. me to got same doubt?? |
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| 16:33.32 | subrahmanyam | v r dying of anxiety |
| 16:33.43 | Nightrose | !patience |
| 16:33.44 | gsocbot | Nightrose: "patience" is Patience is very important in GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 16:34.17 | anirudh24seven | how indicative are positive comments on the proposals, on the final selection ? Just curious... |
| 16:34.21 | Lennie | jatin: It's usually not a good idea to do these big things when a weekend in in between them :) |
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| 16:34.27 | carols | jatin: because every year we have problems we have to resolve with the mentors before we announce results. |
| 16:34.47 | Lennie | hi carols |
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| 16:34.49 | jay_t | hi..is gsoc announcement 12 pm - 1 pm on 25th pacific time? or utc? |
| 16:34.53 | carols | hey Lennie |
| 16:35.13 | carols | jay_t: its when i feel prepared to announce. probably 19:00 UTC. |
| 16:35.16 | subrahmanyam | pacific time and utc both are same.. |
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| 16:35.32 | nattofriends | ... |
| 16:35.36 | dhaun | subrahmanyam: erm, no ... |
| 16:35.59 | gevaerts | kblin: it's a bit annoying that factoids search #gsoc * doesn't work any more due to too many factoids |
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| 16:37.27 | subrahmanyam | oh sorry |
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| 16:38.18 | jay_t | carols: ok..thanks |
| 16:38.21 | dhaun | enjoys some real coffee and cookies (not that there's anything wrong with carols' virtual ones ;-) |
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| 16:38.29 | carols | jay_t: yw |
| 16:38.43 | carols | i'm drinking real coffee too, dhaun :-) sssshhh, dont tell anyone |
| 16:39.02 | lolfrenz | !countdown |
| 16:39.03 | gsocbot | lolfrenz: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Bf4qL, or (#2) For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 16:39.18 | gevaerts | dhaun: the virtual coffee and cookies are purely intelectual enjoyment, and therefore on a higher level! |
| 16:39.43 | logiclord | How will the duplicacy be removed i mean who decides which organization takes the student ? |
| 16:40.02 | carols | logiclord: the organizations decide between themselves and if they can't decide i decide for them. |
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| 16:40.22 | logiclord | Do students have any say in this ? |
| 16:40.22 | jatin | have the students with duplicates been already informed?? |
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| 16:40.54 | dberkholz | i feel an FAQ entry |
| 16:40.55 | gevaerts | jatin: informed of what, precisely? |
| 16:40.57 | carols | logiclord: only if the org chose to contact the students already. we assume if the student applied to more than one org that he/she is willing to be accepted by any of them. |
| 16:41.11 | subrahmanyam | if there any duplications??students r informed?? |
| 16:41.18 | carols | subrahmanyam: not necessarily. |
| 16:41.37 | subrahmanyam | how do they decide? |
| 16:41.41 | jatin | ok so will they be necessorily be informed today? |
| 16:41.45 | carols | subrahmanyam: they talk to each other. |
| 16:41.54 | carols | jatin: not necessarily. |
| 16:42.05 | subrahmanyam | i know that..on what basis they decide |
| 16:42.06 | Lennie | Students are usually expected to be okay with any org they applied to, otherwise why bother applying |
| 16:42.09 | dberkholz | if they're watching the meeting and student or proposal names are mentioned =P |
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| 16:42.26 | carols | subrahmanyam: whatever basis they come up with. |
| 16:42.43 | subrahmanyam | google wont involve in this issue?? |
| 16:42.49 | carols | subrahmanyam: i will if i need to. |
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| 16:42.56 | carols | since I Am Google. |
| 16:43.00 | nattofriends | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.18 | Lennie | So they did implant that microchip after all, carols? |
| 16:43.20 | tom__m | eep |
| 16:43.21 | jatin | gevaerts: I mean if a student has multiple selections, then has he been contacted by anyone saying that he has multiple selctions |
| 16:43.26 | subrahmanyam | there must be some common criteria na to choose?? |
| 16:43.31 | carols | Lennie: i have no idea what you're talking about :-P |
| 16:43.35 | dberkholz | carols: i got a real sense there of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/We_Can_Do_It%21.jpg/300px-We_Can_Do_It%21.jpg |
| 16:43.42 | Lennie | (@carols) since I Am Google. <---- |
| 16:43.54 | carols | dberkholz: i'll take that as a compliment :-) |
| 16:44.25 | |Kev| | jatin: No, the orgs may have decided without consulting the student. |
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| 16:45.01 | bear | starts the rumour that carols is a skynet bot |
| 16:45.11 | adam_vollrath | Do mentors need to be assigned in the next 15 or just before 19:00? |
| 16:45.20 | carols | adam_vollrath: in the next 15, please. |
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| 16:45.32 | anirudh24seven | wonders how carols never manages to lose her patience |
| 16:45.33 | gmcharlt | bear: so carols was involved in #ec2 #fail yesterday? ;) |
| 16:45.43 | gevaerts | jatin: they shouldn't be. They may have been asked which of several proposals they would prefer if they would have been selected by more than one (although that's not necessary), but they should *not* have been told they were selected. |
| 16:45.50 | carols | anirudh24seven: it's my job not to. :-) |
| 16:46.03 | shhh | so carols is a new secret from Google? =X |
| 16:46.03 | bear | gmcharlt that was actually the result of a skynet coup attempt by a rogue faction |
| 16:46.15 | carols | laughs |
| 16:46.40 | shhh | machine learning have reach a new high level. =X |
| 16:46.43 | anth_x | maniacally? |
| 16:46.57 | lolfrenz | carols, have the orgs already decided which students they want accepted? |
| 16:47.08 | carols | lolfrenz: most of them have, yes. |
| 16:47.12 | bear | goes to get food so his blood sugar is in the "please conversationalist" range when the meeting starts |
| 16:47.26 | bear | grr s/please/pleasant/ |
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| 16:47.59 | |Kev| | bear: Saying 'grr' to yourself doesn't help that aim :) |
| 16:48.08 | bear | :P |
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| 16:49.14 | ArthurLiu | is having clam strips, lobster ravioli and clam chowder. Boston rocks |
| 16:50.01 | dberkholz | is jealous |
| 16:50.11 | xorg_dberkholz | is jealous too |
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| 16:51.15 | MostAwesomeDude | â½ |
| 16:51.23 | gevaerts | Oh, a duplicate! |
| 16:51.26 | MostAwesomeDude | Multiple dberkholzs. Confusing. |
| 16:51.30 | dberkholz | triplicate, even. |
| 16:51.35 | gentoo_dberkholz | waves |
| 16:51.57 | gevaerts | thinks this should get resolved before 19:00 UTC to keep the meeting short! |
| 16:52.09 | anirudh24seven | lol |
| 16:52.15 | jatin | lol |
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| 16:52.44 | GaryB|OpenCV | I'm having dried, unsalted matza crackers. Rocks might be better. |
| 16:53.29 | |Kev| | I'm having "Oh, Bank Holiday, I can get some code written". Tastes good. |
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| 16:55.16 | carols | LetterRip: you around? |
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| 16:58.16 | adam_vollrath | Should we have as many proposals in status "pending acceptance" as we have slots? Or more? |
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| 16:58.32 | |Kev| | Exactly the same. |
| 16:58.35 | |Kev| | +number |
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| 16:59.34 | debian_ArthurLiu | I wish we could fork students, solving duplication problams |
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| 16:59.43 | jatin | if there are any selections, then is it visible in status of the proposal? |
| 16:59.53 | wolfb | carols PM? |
| 16:59.57 | carols | jatin: it will all be revealed on monday. |
| 17:00.01 | carols | wolfb: sure |
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| 17:00.14 | gevaerts | debian_ArthurLiu: that would mean they'd accept multiple full-time jobs, which is an instant reject :) |
| 17:00.24 | jatin | monday is just too far :( |
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| 17:00.40 | dberkholz | i guess you should withdraw now to save yourself the misery |
| 17:00.40 | debian_ArthurLiu | git-clone them? |
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| 17:00.54 | |Kev| | debian_ArthurLiu: Aren't there enough students in the world without starting to clone them? :) |
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| 17:01.13 | debian_ArthurLiu | yeah, then we have to figure out how to merge them back |
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| 17:01.20 | |Kev| | rebase |
| 17:01.28 | |Kev| | Much less messy :) |
| 17:01.41 | |Kev| | merge = work out which bits go where |
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| 17:01.50 | |Kev| | rebase = put on top of each other and push until they fit. |
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| 17:02.30 | debian_ArthurLiu | octopus merge! |
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| 17:03.01 | |Kev| | So we end up with students able to predict the outcome of the world cup? |
| 17:03.36 | varg_vik | :)) |
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| 17:04.38 | noy | umm am I an hour early? |
| 17:04.40 | jatin | will the organizations with duplicate list be announced in the meeting? |
| 17:04.49 | jatin | noy: yes :) |
| 17:04.50 | Nihathrael | noy: 2 actually |
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| 17:05.09 | carols | here, have a cookie. |
| 17:05.12 | carols | serves cookies |
| 17:05.37 | noy | aww! I feel better now mom! |
| 17:05.41 | Xordan | lol |
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| 17:06.06 | jatin | will the organisations with duplicate list be announced in the meeting? |
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| 17:06.35 | carols | jatin: please just wait until monday for the announcement. |
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| 17:07.26 | CyberTooth | "This proposal has been flagged as ignored by the organization administrators. You will NOT be allowed to update or withdraw the proposal now. If you think this is incorrect, contact your organization administrators to resolve this situation." what is that supposed to mean? |
| 17:07.29 | adarsh | hey carols . |
| 17:07.35 | carols | hey adarsh |
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| 17:07.50 | adarsh | is decision made regarding the students final list? |
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| 17:08.14 | adarsh | @ carols |
| 17:08.17 | carols | adarsh: on monday yes |
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| 17:08.58 | apurvtwr | !deadline |
| 17:08.58 | gsocbot | apurvtwr: "deadline" is Proposals must be assigned to mentors by 7:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/OOYuO). Proposals must be ranked/scored by 17:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/JDKkg). |
| 17:09.09 | cr4zyb0y | any score, accepted proposal ? |
| 17:09.14 | CyberTooth | carols: can you please answer my above question? |
| 17:09.38 | carols | CyberTooth: it means eaxctly what it says. i'm not sure how to clarify for you any further? |
| 17:10.19 | carols | actually thinks thats pretty helpful help text |
| 17:11.07 | CyberTooth | does "ignored" means org isn't considering my application for the proposal that I have applied? |
| 17:11.44 | carols | CyberTooth: you'll have to contact the org admin or mentor to answer that question. i have no idea why they marked it as such. |
| 17:11.47 | carols | i just work here. |
| 17:12.08 | CyberTooth | carols: ok thanks :) |
| 17:12.13 | carols | yw :-) |
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| 17:12.34 | cr4zyb0y | carols: so deadline, where can i see a scores ? |
| 17:12.36 | downeym|OpenMRS | CyberTooth: It's up to each org to use those flags how they wish. :) |
| 17:12.40 | SRabbelier | cr4zyb0y: you can't |
| 17:12.49 | SRabbelier | cr4zyb0y: you'll be notified if you're accepted the 25, until then |
| 17:12.49 | lars_kurth | Is there some kind of protocol for the meeting later? |
| 17:12.51 | DanKluev | cr4zyb0y: results will be published on 25th |
| 17:12.53 | SRabbelier | !patience | cr4zyb0y |
| 17:12.53 | gsocbot | cr4zyb0y: "patience" is Patience is very important in GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 17:13.00 | carols | lars_kurth: yes. please be available. |
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| 17:13.10 | lars_kurth | I'll check in again later |
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| 17:13.26 | tensa_zangetsu | hi, my proposal was flagged as ignored by the program administrators |
| 17:13.29 | tensa_zangetsu | what does that mean? |
| 17:13.32 | lolfrenz | !timeline |
| 17:13.33 | gsocbot | lolfrenz: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
| 17:13.40 | carols | tensa_zangetsu: i would suggest you ask them. |
| 17:13.45 | |Kev| | tensa_zangetsu: It means the program admins are ignoring it. Ask them why. |
| 17:13.45 | Xordan | dupe meeting is in 1h45 yes? |
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| 17:13.56 | carols | Xordan: yes |
| 17:13.56 | cr4zyb0y | SRabbelier: yep, thanks |
| 17:14.06 | DanKluev | Bot should learn to auto-answer common questions |
| 17:14.09 | Xordan | k, more portal 2 time for me :) |
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| 17:14.26 | SRabbelier | DanKluev: seconded, kai? ;) |
| 17:14.30 | cr4zyb0y | SRabbelier: IRC meeting to resolve any outstanding duplicate accepted students 2 hours next |
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| 17:14.45 | tensa_zangetsu | ok. thanks |
| 17:14.45 | |Kev| | !learn ignored as If your proposal was marked as 'Ignored' by the org admins, it means the org admins are ignoring the proposal. Ask them why. |
| 17:14.46 | gsocbot | |Kev|: "ignored" is If your proposal was marked as 'Ignored' by the org admins, it means the org admins are ignoring the proposal. Ask them why. |
| 17:14.46 | SRabbelier | cr4zyb0y: correct |
| 17:14.47 | cr4zyb0y | how can i know who duplicate with my proposal project |
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| 17:15.01 | subrahmanyam | xactly! its better if google invited applications for this bot designing project:) |
| 17:15.04 | carols | cr4zyb0y: you don't. |
| 17:15.07 | SRabbelier | cr4zyb0y: this is not up to you |
| 17:15.43 | DanKluev | cr4zyb0y: duplicates are several accepted proposals by same student, not same idea by several students |
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| 17:16.03 | cr4zyb0y | DanKluev: aha |
| 17:16.06 | cr4zyb0y | thnks |
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| 17:16.54 | Pranav_rcmas | !next |
| 17:16.55 | gsocbot | Pranav_rcmas: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 17:17.40 | nuigroup_ | duplication meeting in 2 hours for mentors is that correct? (12PM) |
| 17:18.23 | carols | nuigroup: yes |
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| 17:19.29 | carols | anyone from Sakai around? |
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| 17:20.27 | subrahmanyam | carols: can we be herewhen duplication meeting is going on? |
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| 17:20.39 | carols | subrahmanyam: yes, you'll just be muted. |
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| 17:20.49 | Shivansh_ | @carols: in case of any 2 selections, how much time would be given to me to select, which project i want to work on? |
| 17:20.57 | subrahmanyam | v r only able to see. |
| 17:21.04 | carols | Shivansh_: you're a student? |
| 17:21.08 | Shivansh_ | yes |
| 17:21.16 | iveqy | hmm, I can search after other peoples proposals in melange, but not list them. Bug or feature? |
| 17:21.23 | carols | Shivansh_: if the orgs haven't talked to you you won't be asked now to decide. |
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| 17:22.20 | carols | anyone here from ASF? |
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| 17:22.37 | carols | paging ASF and Sakai representatives. |
| 17:22.40 | Shivansh_ | ok..so if the orgs havnt told me anything regarding selection, should i speak with them now, or wait till 25th |
| 17:22.46 | carols | to the white courtesy telephone please. |
| 17:22.48 | carols | Shivansh_: wait |
| 17:22.50 | Uli- | carols: here. |
| 17:22.58 | carols | Uli-: pm? |
| 17:23.03 | Shivansh_ | ok..thanks..!! |
| 17:23.08 | Uli- | carols: sure. |
| 17:23.33 | subrahmanyam | carols: can we ask orgs abt y our application is rejected? |
| 17:23.55 | gevaerts | wonders if he would dare type "!anyone | carols" :) |
| 17:24.06 | |Kev| | gevaerts: I nearly did. |
| 17:24.07 | carols | subrahmanyam: yes, you can speak to them about whatever you'd like. just accept that we don't know whether or how they'll respond |
| 17:24.22 | carols | gevaerts: you could of course try.... |
| 17:24.22 | carols | :-) |
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| 17:24.39 | hiemanshu | carols: do we get banned for it? |
| 17:24.41 | gevaerts | carols: will I still get tea and cookies if I do? |
| 17:24.49 | carols | hiemanshu: banned? |
| 17:24.53 | carols | gevaerts: nope :-) |
| 17:25.00 | gevaerts | I won't then! |
| 17:25.10 | hiemanshu | carols: for trolling you :P |
| 17:25.19 | carols | hiemanshu: yes |
| 17:25.19 | gevaerts | |Kev|: better be careful! |
| 17:25.33 | hiemanshu | damn |
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| 17:26.37 | g4ur4v | !next |
| 17:26.37 | gsocbot | g4ur4v: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 17:29.05 | downeym|OpenMRS | carols: Is there a reason duplicate org contact info is no longer appearing on duplicate proposals? |
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| 17:29.17 | Nihathrael | inames |
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| 17:29.44 | carols | downeym|OpenMRS: ask SRabbelier :-) |
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| 17:30.02 | SRabbelier | downeym|OpenMRS: should only happen if they're no longer a duplicate |
| 17:30.05 | downeym|OpenMRS | SRabbelier: ping :) |
| 17:30.12 | SRabbelier | ninja-ed |
| 17:30.35 | downeym|OpenMRS | SRabbelier: It's still red/duplicate when i refresh the dashboard. |
| 17:30.59 | SRabbelier | downeym|OpenMRS: link? |
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| 17:31.30 | downeym|OpenMRS | SRabbelier: Wait. I just reloaded the proposal and it's back. (?) |
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| 17:31.59 | SRabbelier | kapow |
| 17:32.05 | SRabbelier | downeym|OpenMRS: you probably weren't logged in |
| 17:32.18 | SRabbelier | downeym|OpenMRS: did you see the comment block? |
| 17:32.38 | jermar | carols: hi, how long is the meeting supposed to take? |
| 17:32.46 | carols | jermar: as long as it needs to. |
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| 17:33.27 | downeym|OpenMRS | SRabbelier: I can't say with any 100% certainly as I have too many tabs open. :) I didn't get any prompt to login, but we use 3rd-party SSO (Google Apps), so maybe that explains it. |
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| 17:34.32 | jermar | carols: hm, is it likely to need to take more than two hours? |
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| 17:34.57 | carols | jermar: i honestly have no idea. it takes as long as it takes to get through all the dupes in the order i get them. |
| 17:35.12 | SRabbelier | downeym|OpenMRS: if you have any such problem again, you can go explicitly to http://www.google-melange.com/login |
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| 17:35.24 | SRabbelier | downeym|OpenMRS: that'll allow you to choose which account to log in with if you have multi-login enabled |
| 17:35.37 | downeym|OpenMRS | SRabbelier: Sure, will try it next time I get any funkiness. |
| 17:35.38 | jermar | carols: ok, we'll see, thanks |
| 17:35.43 | downeym|OpenMRS | SRabbelier: thanks :) |
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| 17:36.09 | SRabbelier | downeym|OpenMRS: keep me posted :) |
| 17:37.03 | Lennie | SRabbelier: Last year took only like 15 min right? Since the Orgs had advanced warning of duplicates |
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| 17:37.22 | SRabbelier | Lennie: yeah, it's likely to be over fast, we have like 10 dupes outstanding |
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| 17:37.34 | Lennie | 7 to be exact :) |
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| 17:37.50 | mzj | !next |
| 17:37.50 | gsocbot | mzj: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 17:37.57 | downeym|OpenMRS | FWIW, our dupe is basically resolved, other than updating flags, I think. |
| 17:38.12 | thirtySeven | !next |
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| 17:38.12 | gsocbot | thirtySeven: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 17:38.20 | jatin | carols:any protocol to be followed in today's meet |
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| 17:38.35 | dberkholz | this is really getting repetitive. |
| 17:38.45 | carols | i agree dberkholz |
| 17:38.50 | gevaerts | Of course there could be a conspiracy where people worked hard to make resolving the very last duplicate cause forty seven new ones... |
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| 17:39.32 | Gelassen | Good day. Can I know today if my application pass? |
| 17:39.33 | dberkholz | we finally had a dupe go our way this year |
| 17:39.45 | downeym|OpenMRS | Gelassen: Monday. |
| 17:40.05 | |Kev| | I'm inclined to suggest throwing a few +v around and then +m. Maybe I'm unreasonably mean. |
| 17:40.09 | Gelassen | Thanks |
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| 17:40.27 | kblin | are we there yet? |
| 17:40.30 | weta | Hi all. de-duplication meeting is here right? |
| 17:40.38 | gevaerts | |Kev|: I don't think they're actually disturbing anything right now |
| 17:40.42 | xorg_dberkholz | instead, we could just all go get a lunch and/or beer for the next hour, then come back just in time. |
| 17:40.45 | xorg_dberkholz | that's my plan. |
| 17:40.49 | kblin | !deduplication | weta |
| 17:40.49 | gsocbot | weta: "deduplication" is on April 22nd: 19:00 UTC in #gsoc for people who can take deduplication decisions on behalf of the orgs. Usually this means an admin, but a mentor could represent the org as well. |
| 17:41.11 | Lennie | downeym|OpenMRS: Yeah flags still need to be updated, yours is still in :) |
| 17:41.12 | |Kev| | gevaerts: True. Apart from me checking what's happening incase it's interesting :) |
| 17:41.18 | weta | thanks kblin |
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| 17:41.48 | downeym|OpenMRS | Lennie: Based on the student's preference ours will stay in, as far as I can see. :) |
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| 17:41.55 | gevaerts | |Kev|: if the only effect is keeping you on your toes, it must be good :) |
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| 17:42.16 | mhuot | Lennie: I can confirm downeym|OpenMRS I just need to talk to my mentor |
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| 17:42.41 | Talad | de-duplicates his mirror image |
| 17:42.43 | Lennie | mhuot should be able to make it happen for you :) |
| 17:42.56 | kblin | oy, Lennie, long time no read |
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| 17:43.07 | Lennie | Hi kblin, yes I'm still alive :) |
| 17:43.11 | Lennie | although more on the background now |
| 17:43.21 | downeym|OpenMRS | Lennie mhuot: No worries. :) |
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| 17:46.11 | kblin | !learn howtoqueue as If you have anything to say for the meeting, you can tell gsocbot about it by either joining #gsoc-duplicates or a query and stating !queue <yourorg> |
| 17:46.12 | gsocbot | kblin: "howtoqueue" is If you have anything to say for the meeting, you can tell gsocbot about it by either joining #gsoc-duplicates or a query and stating !queue <yourorg> |
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| 17:47.12 | SRabbelier | kblin: nice! |
| 17:47.21 | Kroosec | Hello |
| 17:47.28 | chopin|OpenMRS | o/ |
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| 17:47.42 | Kroosec | How and when do I know that I was selected for GSoC ? |
| 17:47.49 | carols | Kroosec: on monday |
| 17:47.57 | carols | via email |
| 17:47.58 | kblin | SRabbelier: it's a bit hackish so far, but it should work for the deduplication meeting |
| 17:48.13 | downeym|OpenMRS | kblin: Who does the query go to? |
| 17:48.15 | freenet|toad_ | hmmm, is it freenet|toad_ or toad_|freenet ? |
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| 17:48.33 | ihalip | downeym|OpenMRS: the bot, i would guess |
| 17:48.35 | carols | i'm going to go get some food before this meeting, bbs folks |
| 17:48.41 | kblin | downeym|OpenMRS: what carols said :) |
| 17:48.42 | Kroosec | carols: So it's normal if I didn't receive any comments on my application yet ? |
| 17:48.47 | SRabbelier | kblin: much work to implement? |
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| 17:49.20 | kblin | SRabbelier: one I found that there's a channel called #supybot with people who do have a clue, it wasn't too hard |
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| 17:49.40 | kblin | SRabbelier: but the plugin still doesn't autoload, and it doesn't persist the queue |
| 17:50.02 | SRabbelier | kblin: ah, that was a dead giveaway :P |
| 17:50.26 | kblin | and probably there's a better way to implement querying the current queue |
| 17:50.31 | DanKluev | Kroosec: depends on the org. But usually its implied that you get in touch with mentors yourself |
| 17:50.45 | kblin | currently the bot responds with the first 10 positions in a query |
| 17:51.18 | Ophiuchi | fights with the temptation to scare Kroosec with "you're dooomed, dooooomed" and loses :-P |
| 17:51.37 | Ophiuchi | Kroosec: doesn't need to mean a thing. You'll see on Monday. |
| 17:51.55 | BlankVerse | !apps |
| 17:51.58 | dipak | Yes. I agree with DanKluev! Probably just try contacting on org's mailing list. I'm sure some will respond ... |
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| 17:52.32 | BlankVerse | !numapps |
| 17:52.32 | gsocbot | BlankVerse: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted this year; 5474 proposals were submitted by 3731 students. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 17:52.51 | DanKluev | dipak: well, right now its too late |
| 17:52.56 | Ophiuchi | well, as to changing anything (besides being in a dedup situation) that's a bit late. |
| 17:53.30 | dipak | Yes but it is still okey to drop a line i guess... |
| 17:53.32 | jatin | !queue gnu |
| 17:53.33 | gsocbot | jatin: I queued you at position 3 in the queue |
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| 17:53.59 | Kroosec | Ophiuchi: Thanks :D |
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| 17:55.19 | jatin | is there any command to remove oneslef from queue |
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| 17:55.36 | SRabbelier | ahahaha |
| 17:55.43 | kblin | jatin: er, not yet |
| 17:55.45 | SRabbelier | kblin: you couldof know that one would come |
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| 17:56.10 | kblin | SRabbelier: yeah. I've learned from you guys, I'll push that tomorrw |
| 17:56.16 | jatin | ok |
| 17:56.19 | kblin | !botbugs |
| 17:56.19 | gsocbot | kblin: "botbugs" is Please report bot bugs and feature requests to https://github.com/kblin/supybot-gsoc/issues |
| 17:56.25 | kblin | 0:) |
| 17:56.26 | mhuot | Lennie: I'm assuming you were helping downeym|OpenMRS out, so it I hit revert on "Accept proposal" that should take care of the dupe? |
| 17:56.45 | Lennie | If you rejected it that should be it yes |
| 17:56.58 | Lennie | OpenNMS, right? |
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| 17:57.05 | kblin | jatin: but my plan for the meeting was that we'd just skip people who weren't around |
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| 17:57.07 | Ophiuchi | mhuot: remember that it's take a while until it stops being red |
| 17:57.19 | Lennie | I'll press the button to make it stop being red now :P |
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| 17:57.31 | Lennie | should be gone in a min |
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| 17:57.53 | jatin | kblin: I am sorry but i added in the queue jus tout of anxiety :D |
| 17:58.08 | mhuot | Lennie: Yes OpenNMS, we are also going to transfer the slot back, congrats to someone! |
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| 17:58.13 | kblin | jatin: reasonable feature request, of course, just nothing I thought of yesterday evening |
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| 17:59.33 | Lennie | looks good mhuot, only 5 left :) |
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| 17:59.40 | Lennie | I like it when problems solve it self :p |
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| 17:59.48 | BBB-work | who op'ed me? |
| 17:59.50 | mhuot | :-) |
| 17:59.57 | kblin | BBB-work: your hostmask |
| 17:59.57 | BBB-work | carols: is that a bug? |
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| 18:00.11 | Lennie | (19:52:42) mode: (ChanServ) sets mode (+o BBB-work) |
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| 18:01.40 | BBB-work | kblin, well I guess I appreciate the honor :) I'm here as an org admin though |
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| 18:02.39 | SRabbelier | BBB-work: no, that's intentional |
| 18:02.48 | SRabbelier | BBB-work: all Googlers are op on #gsoc :) |
| 18:03.51 | kblin | BBB-work: we'll forgive you ;) |
| 18:04.37 | anubhav | ! |
| 18:04.47 | anubhav | sry |
| 18:04.55 | adam_vollrath | So, explicitly, is it permissible to ask the student which organization he/she would prefer accept them before the 19:00 meeting, and base our position upon that? |
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| 18:05.14 | SRabbelier | adam_vollrath: yes |
| 18:05.24 | SRabbelier | adam_vollrath: be careful with the phrasing |
| 18:05.51 | SRabbelier | adam_vollrath: don't say "do you want ot be accepted for X or Y", instead say "would you prefer to work on proposal X or Y" or somesuch |
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| 18:06.21 | kblin | because we pretend they're not accepted for two orgs ;) |
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| 18:07.16 | nirmalfdo | kblin, we saw that :D |
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| 18:08.33 | kblin | I mean, of course we can't tell them they're accepted until google officially announces this, but they're not stupid... |
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| 18:08.38 | kblin | or at least you'd hope so |
| 18:08.41 | BBB-work | hm shit I'm an hour off, I thought dedup was now.. ohwell |
| 18:08.46 | BBB-work | will stick around for a bit |
| 18:09.14 | mzj | next year hopefully google will announce the results on friday itself and maybe have this meeting on a thursday.. :) |
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| 18:09.42 | kblin | mzj: doubt it, you need some buffer for last-minute problems |
| 18:09.52 | rbrusu|pcl | mzj: and deadlines will be 23:59 Hawaii time :) |
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| 18:09.54 | kblin | !patience | mzj |
| 18:09.54 | gsocbot | mzj: "patience" is Patience is very important in GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
| 18:10.04 | mzj | :) |
| 18:10.13 | kblin | !forget patience |
| 18:10.14 | gsocbot | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:10.28 | SRabbelier | kblin: what are you doing? :O |
| 18:10.34 | mzj | btw what does !forget do |
| 18:10.45 | kblin | !learn patience as very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
| 18:10.46 | gsocbot | kblin: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 18:10.59 | kblin | SRabbelier: submitting to the inner grammar-nazi? |
| 18:11.02 | Ophiuchi | mzj: since this meeting is a must attend with a very strict time requirement, that would not be a good idea. |
| 18:11.09 | mzj | ok |
| 18:11.33 | k0p | !next |
| 18:11.33 | gsocbot | k0p: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 18:11.38 | boltrix | k0p: howdy ho |
| 18:11.43 | k0p | :) |
| 18:11.49 | kblin | SRabbelier: I guess I need to add a command that allows replacing a factoid |
| 18:12.10 | SRabbelier | kblin: ah, nice1 |
| 18:12.10 | hiemanshu | kblin: shouldn't it replace it when you make it learn again? |
| 18:12.29 | SRabbelier | hiemanshu: nope, just adds it |
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| 18:12.40 | SRabbelier | kblin: I suggest !relearn |
| 18:12.46 | SRabbelier | kblin: just do a !forget !learn |
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| 18:13.22 | hiemanshu | SRabbelier: ah |
| 18:13.41 | kblin | SRabbelier: yeah |
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| 18:13.54 | kblin | but I'm not touching the bot 45 minutes before the meeting |
| 18:14.07 | Vishrut | cant make gsocbot work in query? |
| 18:14.17 | kblin | I'm not a melange developer, I don't have the guts ;) |
| 18:14.23 | hiemanshu | kblin: yes, you should do it, 45 seconds before the meeting |
| 18:14.37 | kblin | hiemanshu: as I said, not a melange developer |
| 18:14.49 | kblin | !moreinfo | Vishrut |
| 18:14.49 | gsocbot | Vishrut: "moreinfo" is Please provide more data on your problem, have you tried turning it off and on again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0 |
| 18:14.56 | hiemanshu | kblin: I know |
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| 18:15.00 | subrahmanyam | should v have to present online here..in case if orgs want to talk to us incase of duplicates?? |
| 18:15.35 | kblin | no need for students to be present at the meeting. you can still watch if you like |
| 18:15.51 | carols | is back |
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| 18:16.01 | dhaun | Vishrut: the syntax is different in a query, try: whatis #gsoc moreinfo |
| 18:16.24 | Vishrut | whatis #gsoc moreinfo |
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| 18:16.31 | kblin | dhaun: ah, I thought this was about the queueing |
| 18:16.40 | dhaun | Vishrut: in a query, not in here :) |
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| 18:16.46 | kblin | that's channel-agnostic :) |
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| 18:17.02 | dhaun | !socinfo |
| 18:17.02 | gsocbot | dhaun: "socinfo" is http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Socinfo |
| 18:17.02 | Vishrut | okay got it, thanks |
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| 18:17.13 | dhaun | what happened to the bot's old name, btw? |
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| 18:17.29 | asutton | howdy. |
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| 18:17.48 | kblin | dhaun: danderson registered that nick, I don't have the password |
| 18:17.54 | dol-sen | kblin: what plugin is that for supybot: learn, forget |
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| 18:18.11 | dhaun | kblin: ah, of course |
| 18:18.20 | kblin | dhaun: so I couldn't set up identifying and ghosting for the bot to recover it's nick after a split |
| 18:18.44 | kblin | dol-sen: it's basically the Factoids plugin, with a few custom patches |
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| 18:18.52 | dol-sen | ah |
| 18:18.54 | mayanks43 | it was called durinbot right? |
| 18:18.57 | dhaun | so I guess I have to change that wiki page :) |
| 18:19.33 | kblin | dol-sen: the original plugin doesn't tell you the factoid after !learn or !forget <id>, and can't do the | <nick> redirection |
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| 18:19.47 | kblin | mayanks43: I replaced socinfo |
| 18:20.00 | anubhav | factoids search #gsoc * |
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| 18:20.13 | Vishrut | ¨kblin is his master" cool |
| 18:20.20 | dol-sen | kblin: thanks, do you have the code posted somewhere? |
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| 18:21.31 | kblin | dol-sen: https://github.com/kblin/supybot-gsoc |
| 18:21.39 | dol-sen | thank you |
| 18:21.53 | jatin1 | !next |
| 18:21.54 | gsocbot | jatin1: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 18:22.18 | kblin | dol-sen: I didn't get around to port all patches to the "master" branch, the stable branch is based on the latest supybot release |
| 18:22.28 | CrawfordComeaux | carols: any chance of getting info on who we're duped with before dedupe meeting? |
| 18:22.33 | dol-sen | ok |
| 18:22.38 | carols | CrawfordComeaux: its on your dashboard. |
| 18:23.04 | Ophiuchi | likes green (especially on the dashboard) |
| 18:23.27 | borja|globus | compusively refreshing to make sure everything stays green |
| 18:23.53 | nashjc-R | Query: Are students not able to see all the discussion on IRC? |
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| 18:24.04 | kblin | Ophiuchi: mine are all magenta |
| 18:24.17 | kblin | Ophiuchi: but I blame gnome for that |
| 18:24.21 | carols | kblin: we gave you the special dashboard. |
| 18:24.28 | CrawfordComeaux | carols: doh...thanks |
| 18:25.00 | kblin | carols: actually I recently discovered that gnome will invert colors on penguin-M |
| 18:25.03 | subrahmanyam | Are students not able to see all the discussion on IRC? |
| 18:25.09 | Ophiuchi | kblin: oh noes, T-error colored! :) |
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| 18:25.25 | carols | kblin: that's cool... |
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| 18:25.58 | kblin | nashjc-R, subrahmanyam: not sure what you mean, the meeting will be in here |
| 18:26.05 | borja|globus | nashjc-R: subrahmanyam: Everyone is welcome to join the channel but, when the meeting starts, please don't speak unless you're representing an org. |
| 18:26.09 | SRabbelier | hits the button again |
| 18:26.12 | SRabbelier | off it goes |
| 18:26.19 | Ophiuchi | subrahmanyam: of course. so what? :) |
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| 18:26.34 | kblin | but nothing stops the mentors from solving duplicates in private before |
| 18:27.05 | Ophiuchi | ... or else my dashboard wuldn't be this green :) |
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| 18:27.57 | gsoc_Sog3k1nG | !countdown |
| 18:27.57 | gsocbot | gsoc_Sog3k1nG: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Bf4qL, or (#2) For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 18:27.58 | Lennie | still 5 SRabbelier :) |
| 18:28.10 | kblin | sighs |
| 18:28.12 | Ophiuchi | sets up to defend the remaining students tooth & claw ;-P |
| 18:28.17 | SRabbelier | yup |
| 18:28.19 | shayan | !time |
| 18:28.20 | gsocbot | shayan: "time" is has come, the walrus said, to speak of other things. |
| 18:28.24 | SRabbelier | grins |
| 18:28.40 | kblin | man, you give people a !queue and they immediately want an !unqueue as well |
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| 18:28.43 | SRabbelier | it doesn't work as well as kblin's factoids |
| 18:28.47 | blacktooth|away | !countdown |
| 18:28.48 | gsocbot | blacktooth|away: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Bf4qL, or (#2) For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
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| 18:28.55 | SRabbelier | kblin: and you are surprised why? |
| 18:29.01 | subrahmanyam | ? |
| 18:29.15 | kblin | SRabbelier: not at all. no good deed stays unpunished |
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| 18:29.33 | kblin | SRabbelier: at least noone flamed me on the mailing list about this yet |
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| 18:29.52 | kblin | puts on his asbestos suit just in case |
| 18:29.54 | SRabbelier | kblin: patience |
| 18:29.56 | LetterRip | 30 minutes to go, time flies when you are having fun |
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| 18:30.22 | Ophiuchi | obligingly singes kblin a tiny bit |
| 18:30.28 | LetterRip | recommends a non cancerous alternative to kblin |
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| 18:30.41 | kblin | LetterRip: virtual asbestos is safe |
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| 18:31.06 | kblin | LetterRip: I never inhale that |
| 18:31.33 | SRabbelier | kblin: those aliasses are annoying |
| 18:31.40 | kblin | hm? |
| 18:31.40 | SRabbelier | kblin: can you put them _before_ your nick? |
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| 18:32.18 | SRabbelier | kblin: much obliged |
| 18:32.21 | kblin | apparently I can |
| 18:32.29 | freenet|toad_ | do we want the org prefix before our nick or after it? |
| 18:32.35 | mlankhorst | !next |
| 18:32.36 | gsocbot | mlankhorst: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 18:32.46 | kblin | freenet|toad_: actually SRabbelier is right, before makes more sense |
| 18:32.59 | downeym|OpenMRS | remembers the same question last year, but doesn't remember last year's answer. :) |
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| 18:33.06 | kblin | during the dedup meeting, the org is more interesting than the nick |
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| 18:33.14 | SRabbelier | kblin: exactly |
| 18:33.20 | SRabbelier | kblin: also, what chan do I join again? |
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| 18:33.28 | freenet|toad_ | and autocomplete makes it even more interesting |
| 18:33.44 | kblin | given that you can talk even if the channel is muted, you can just stay here |
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| 18:33.51 | SRabbelier | exactly |
| 18:34.08 | kblin | for people who want to queue up once the channel is muted, gsocbot is in #gsoc-duplicates as well |
| 18:34.34 | kblin | and you can queue up in a query to gsocbot as well |
| 18:34.44 | kblin | !howtoqueue | SRabbelier |
| 18:34.45 | gsocbot | SRabbelier: "howtoqueue" is If you have anything to say for the meeting, you can tell gsocbot about it by either joining #gsoc-duplicates or a query and stating !queue <yourorg> |
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| 18:35.11 | freenet|toad_ | will there be extra slots on offer? |
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| 18:35.40 | kblin | freenet|toad_: I've got two spare PCI slots for cheap |
| 18:35.47 | blender_LetterRi | heheh |
| 18:36.02 | OSGeo|wolfb | hey Sahana|bitner |
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| 18:37.01 | Sahana|bitner | hello hello OSGeo|wolfb |
| 18:37.05 | globus|borja | waves to lh |
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| 18:37.19 | lh | globus|borja: so nice to see you borja! |
| 18:37.27 | globus|borja | lh: likewise! |
| 18:37.34 | SRabbelier | contemplates renaming to Awesome|SRabbelier |
| 18:37.40 | carols | hey lh :-) |
| 18:37.41 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | SRabbelier: do it! |
| 18:37.45 | carols | offers lh some coffee |
| 18:37.50 | ajedwards|tp | lh, that's a heck of a job i bet! ;) |
| 18:37.52 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | carols: you are the most wonderful human |
| 18:37.57 | SRabbelier | carols: can you accept my org application for "awesome"? |
| 18:38.04 | SRabbelier | carols: it's a one-man project, no code yet |
| 18:38.06 | carols | gentoo|osuosl|lh: aw, shucks. so are you! |
| 18:38.08 | adarsh | is the meeting between mentors and gsoc going on now? |
| 18:38.12 | kblin | !no | SRabbelier |
| 18:38.13 | gsocbot | SRabbelier: "no" is no, you cannot have a a deadline extension or an exception. have a cookie instead. there is nothing stopping you from contributing to open source anyway. |
| 18:38.14 | carols | SRabbelier: we'll see. |
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| 18:38.21 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | hands carols a cheese plate with some nommy crackers and a a glass of chardonnay |
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| 18:38.28 | SRabbelier | gentoo|osuosl|lh: didn't know you did gentoo? |
| 18:38.29 | carols | wow, thanks gentoo|osuosl|lh :-) |
| 18:38.31 | carols | noms |
| 18:38.33 | SRabbelier | oh dear, that came out wrong |
| 18:38.44 | adarsh | @ carols : is the meeting between mentors and gsoc going on now? |
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| 18:38.47 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | SRabbelier: i got talked into it by dberkholz |
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| 18:38.55 | carols | adarsh: no |
| 18:38.57 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | adarsh: starts in about 20 minutes |
| 18:38.59 | SRabbelier | gentoo|osuosl|lh: you keeping them whippersnappers in line? |
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| 18:39.18 | osuosl|gchaix | gentoo|osuosl|lh: yeah, dberkholz can be poerfully convincing |
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| 18:39.27 | Mudit | will we get project rankings today? |
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| 18:39.29 | osuosl|gchaix | SRabbelier: she's whipped us into shape right quick |
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| 18:39.33 | Blender|LetterRi | watching my nephew - he seems awfully clever for about a 1 1/2 year old |
| 18:39.36 | kblin | Mudit: monday |
| 18:39.41 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | osuosl|gchaix: so true. plus i am a sucker for helping my friends. :) |
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| 18:39.52 | SRabbelier | poerfully? is that a word? |
| 18:39.56 | Blender|LetterRi | Mudit - it as accepted or not, no rankings tend to be disclosed afaik |
| 18:40.04 | SRabbelier | Mudit: you won't ever get the rankings :) |
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| 18:40.09 | SRabbelier | Mudit: just accepted/rejected |
| 18:40.15 | osuosl|gchaix | SRabbelier: blame my notoriously bad IRC typing habits |
| 18:40.17 | Mudit | @kblin: ..k |
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| 18:40.42 | kblin | Mudit: yeah, actually what letterrip and the others said, but not before monday in any case |
| 18:40.48 | Mitar | duplication meeting is here? |
| 18:41.02 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | Mitar: you've come to the right place |
| 18:41.03 | kblin | Blender|LetterRi: I'd argue that it's a two-bin-ranking ;) |
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| 18:41.09 | carols | Mitar: yes. but hopefully we deduplicate instead of duplicate |
| 18:41.09 | Mitar | great |
| 18:41.18 | Blender|LetterRi | kblin: heheh |
| 18:41.25 | Mitar | ;-) |
| 18:41.44 | Mitar | hopefully all duplications were already solved ;-) |
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| 18:41.59 | Mitar | greetings from Slovenia to everybody ;-) |
| 18:42.00 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: the "awesome" name is already taken |
| 18:42.02 | Blender|LetterRi | Mitar one might hope, but tends to not be the case |
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| 18:42.21 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: pics or it didn't happen |
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| 18:42.26 | adarsh_ | @ carols : the next 2 days are just meant to remove the clashes? |
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| 18:42.34 | Upthorn | 18 minutes |
| 18:42.39 | gevaerts | SRabbelier: http://awesome.naquadah.org/ |
| 18:42.49 | carols | adarsh_: they're meant to resolve the inevitable problems that will still be remaining after this meeting. |
| 18:43.11 | kblin | SRabbelier: just go for MoarAwesome|SRabbelier then |
| 18:43.12 | carols | because i am a realist, not an optimist. |
| 18:43.23 | eoc | SRabbelier: actually using awesome right now and I was surprised to see it into soc with you for some seconds :-) |
| 18:43.24 | jatin_ | !nick |
| 18:43.25 | gsocbot | jatin_: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 18:43.26 | SRabbelier | kblin: excellent! |
| 18:43.27 | eoc | then I read the scrollback :) |
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| 18:43.40 | Mitar | carols: i thought those two days is to sleep after we did such a great jobs all of us ;-) |
| 18:43.55 | SRabbelier | eoc: I'm already using xmonad :P |
| 18:43.55 | carols | Mitar: think of it how you like :-) |
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| 18:44.57 | SRabbelier | oh wow, it's riffing of HIMYM |
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| 18:45.10 | SRabbelier | that's bonus points right thre |
| 18:45.15 | SRabbelier | eoc: it's a tiling WM? |
| 18:45.18 | thomas_tbp1 | !whoami |
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| 18:45.19 | gsocbot | thomas_tbp1: I don't recognize you. |
| 18:45.24 | eoc | SRabbelier: yep |
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| 18:45.38 | Blender|LetterRi | carols - realists are right more frequently, but optimists are happier :) |
| 18:45.41 | kblin | thomas_tbp1: I don't recognize you either, so that's fair ;) |
| 18:45.45 | hypatia | !deduplication |
| 18:45.46 | gsocbot | hypatia: "deduplication" is on April 22nd: 19:00 UTC in #gsoc for people who can take deduplication decisions on behalf of the orgs. Usually this means an admin, but a mentor could represent the org as well. |
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| 18:45.54 | SRabbelier | eoc: have you used xmonad before? if so, is awesome better IYO? |
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| 18:45.58 | Upthorn | !timeline |
| 18:45.58 | gsocbot | Upthorn: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
| 18:46.07 | eoc | SRabbelier: haven't |
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| 18:46.09 | freenet|toad_ | Blender|LetterRi: optimists are often more effective |
| 18:46.10 | kblin | !gsoc | SRabbelier ;) |
| 18:46.18 | yay_14 | !timeline |
| 18:46.18 | SRabbelier | kblin: he started |
| 18:46.18 | gsocbot | yay_14: "timeline" is http://goo.gl/PFsjs |
| 18:46.28 | subrahmanyam | !next |
| 18:46.28 | gsocbot | subrahmanyam: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 18:46.34 | Blender|LetterRi | freenet|toad_: depends on the role |
| 18:46.38 | SRabbelier | eoc: bummer, will have to remember to investigate at some point then, when I have time to shave some yaks |
| 18:46.41 | kblin | SRabbelier: you started it, you invaded poland |
| 18:46.42 | bear|XFS | is the style org|nick or nick|org ?? |
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| 18:46.48 | SRabbelier | !war | kblin |
| 18:46.49 | gsocbot | kblin: "war" is Just don't mention it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk) |
| 18:46.52 | Blender|LetterRi | org|nick |
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| 18:47.02 | kblin | bear|XFS: org|nick makes the autocompletion more useful |
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| 18:47.11 | jatin|gnu | gnu|jatin |
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| 18:47.17 | yay_14 | !peace |
| 18:47.20 | bear|XFS | figures I'm always the odd one |
| 18:47.22 | SRabbelier | !botabuse | yay_14 |
| 18:47.23 | gsocbot | yay_14: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 18:47.32 | carols | serves some chocolate, cheese, and crackers in anticipation of the meeting |
| 18:47.39 | SRabbelier | carols: caramels? :D |
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| 18:47.50 | kblin | ohyay, foodstuffs |
| 18:47.51 | carols | serves caramels and puts SRabbelier's name on them |
| 18:47.56 | |Kev| | XFS|bear: XSF, maybe? :) |
| 18:48.00 | SRabbelier | nom nom |
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| 18:48.05 | XFS|bear | doh! |
| 18:48.10 | NetBSD|spz | puts a bowl with chocolate Easter eggs up. |
| 18:48.26 | yay_14 | !war | gsocbot |
| 18:48.27 | gsocbot | yay_14: "war" is Just don't mention it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk) |
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| 18:48.34 | adarsh | basically what will be the putput of this meeting? |
| 18:48.38 | Blender|LetterRi | chocolate..... nomnomnom |
| 18:48.42 | carols | wow, 577 members. that might be the most we've had here since...the last dedupe meeting |
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| 18:48.55 | gevaerts | munches cheese |
| 18:49.05 | kblin | carols: no, actually I think last result announcement day |
| 18:49.13 | carols | kblin: yeah? was it more? |
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| 18:49.22 | SRabbelier | likes the word 'putput' |
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| 18:49.26 | SRabbelier | wonders what it means |
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| 18:49.41 | kblin | SRabbelier: it's something you say to chickens while you feed them |
| 18:49.47 | OSGeo|wolfb | adarsh: pupput is the result of a program when you giv it bad input. According to my highschool tacher :P |
| 18:49.47 | SRabbelier | kblin: is it? |
| 18:49.54 | kblin | carols: I think we hit 600 that day |
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| 18:50.02 | Sahana|bitner | putput == mini golf |
| 18:50.04 | SRabbelier | go wikipedia |
| 18:50.05 | carols | kblin: we're at 580 now :-) |
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| 18:50.10 | carols | let's see if we can beat our record |
| 18:50.12 | adarsh | @ carols : basically what will be the putput of this meeting? |
| 18:50.13 | SRabbelier | I search for putput, it asks me "did you mean putputt"? |
| 18:50.16 | adarsh | out put* |
| 18:50.20 | SRabbelier | I say "sure, go for it", it tells me "never heard of it" |
| 18:50.21 | socketguru | 581 |
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| 18:50.31 | carols | adarsh: a clean set of accepted students. |
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| 18:50.52 | SRabbelier | that's like "have you seen a tall guy come by just now?", "you mean with a black jacket and jeans?", "yes! that one!", "nope, haven'ts een him" |
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| 18:51.00 | ajedwards|tp | LOL SRabbelier |
| 18:51.05 | OSGeo|wolfb | are dupes supposed to show up in the dashboard BTW? |
| 18:51.13 | DanKluev | >last result announcement day â was it "is it out yet? and now? maybe now?" whole day? |
| 18:51.14 | kblin | SRabbelier: did you mean Snruagiaggfarnuff? because I've never heard of that either |
| 18:51.16 | XSF|Kev | wolfb: Yes. |
| 18:51.18 | ankit_frenz | SRabbelier: |
| 18:51.19 | carols | OSGeo|wolfb: yes |
| 18:51.22 | SRabbelier | ajedwards: it's trolling me, also, that |tp is annoying, can you put it in front? |
| 18:51.23 | ankit_frenz | SRabbelier: LOL |
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| 18:51.48 | ajedwards|tp | SRabbelier, i'll change it - tp is just my thinkpad irc client |
| 18:51.54 | cbosdonnat | Good morning / evening there |
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| 18:52.01 | SRabbelier | ajed: still annoying! |
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| 18:52.02 | debian_ArthurLiu | I'm assuming that all people without org names in their nickname are students ? nothing to see here! |
| 18:52.08 | SRabbelier | ajed: it conflicts with autocomplete |
| 18:52.17 | kblin | SRabbelier: I think thousand parsec isn't participating |
| 18:52.19 | SRabbelier | makes mental note to get rid of SRabbelier|Lappy |
| 18:52.21 | kblin | SRabbelier: and get a real client |
| 18:52.24 | gevaerts | isn't a student! |
| 18:52.26 | ThomasWaldmann | moin to everybody :) |
| 18:52.28 | NetBSD|spz | ArthurLiu: heh |
| 18:52.29 | slashdot | !next |
| 18:52.30 | gsocbot | slashdot: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 18:52.30 | SRabbelier | kblin: sad that they're not, also, why? |
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| 18:52.44 | GaryB|OpenCV | rain=> poor. ICCV reviews ... too. Punishment for review laggards is fewer/no reviews.... choice is clear. |
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| 18:52.46 | cbosdonnat | isn't a student... empathy IRC client doesn't allow changing nick |
| 18:52.48 | SRabbelier | 4 dupes left |
| 18:52.49 | CGAL|Hemmer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.50 | dhaun | debian_ArthurLiu: some of us just hang out here out of tradition ;-) |
| 18:52.51 | SRabbelier | this is gonna be a quick meeting |
| 18:52.58 | scorche | yawns |
| 18:52.59 | mzj | GaryB|OpenCV: org|nick |
| 18:53.02 | kblin | SRabbelier: | doesn't hurt my autocomplete at all |
| 18:53.05 | akshayagarwal | !countdown |
| 18:53.06 | gsocbot | akshayagarwal: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Bf4qL, or (#2) For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 18:53.11 | SRabbelier | anyone who needs voice /query me |
| 18:53.14 | shogun|sonney2k | Does everyone have to queue up? |
| 18:53.16 | OSGeo|wolfb | SRabbelier: are you saying that there are only 4 dupes in the system at the moment? |
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| 18:53.26 | carols | OSGeo|wolfb: yes |
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| 18:53.31 | carols | thanks SRabbelier |
| 18:53.32 | scorche | oh, nice |
| 18:53.36 | kblin | shogun|sonney2k: not sure if queueing up is strictly necessary actually |
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| 18:53.42 | carols | we'll get started in just a couple minutes folks |
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| 18:53.47 | *** topic/#gsoc by SRabbelier -> Welcome to Google Summer of Code 2011! Student application closed. Channel muted for deduplication meeting, /query SRabbelier if you need voice. Please read the FAQs - http://goo.gl/Up2Qf and the Timeline - http://goo.gl/0lYPz for more info. |
| 18:53.53 | carols | shogun|sonney2k: i'll call your org. |
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| 18:54.10 | kblin | shogun|sonney2k: I think once we throw the +m we'll just voice people with the respective org prefixes |
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| 18:54.34 | kblin | that makes more sense than queueing up, I think |
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| 18:54.52 | carols | if org admins could please make their nicks in the form org name | nick if you haven't already done so, that would be great |
| 18:55.21 | carols | aw, thanks everyone. :-) you all follow direction so well! |
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| 18:55.43 | kblin | carols: cat herding isn't too hard if you're the one carrying the food |
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| 18:55.57 | carols | kblin: you can say that again. |
| 18:55.58 | carols | :-) |
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| 18:56.07 | kblin | carols: cat herding isn't too hard if you're the one carrying the food |
| 18:56.07 | SRabbelier | in particular we need hugin, fibercorps, eclipse foundation, Universal Subtitles,  Liquid Galaxy Project,  Point Cloud Library, and  OpenImageIO |
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| 18:56.16 | kblin | 0:) |
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| 18:56.25 | SRabbelier | carols: that was rather impressive to see I must admit |
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| 18:56.40 | carols | i'd also like to speak to reps of liquid galaxy, ntp, plone, processing, and sakai once we're done with dupes |
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| 18:57.28 | carols | 3 minutes and we'll get started |
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| 18:57.41 | rockbox|scorche | folks - org|nick please - not nick|org |
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| 18:58.07 | carols | thanks rockbox|scorche |
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| 18:59.16 | carols | alright, i'll start the meeting and lay out the rules and we'll go from there |
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| 18:59.32 | carols | =========Start of Deduplication Meeting for GSoC 2011==== |
| 18:59.35 | carols | Rules: |
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| 18:59.54 | carols | 1. Please list your nick in the form orgname|nick so I can identify you |
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| 19:00.06 | carols | 2. I will call orgs in the order I have them on the duplicate list |
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| 19:00.20 | carols | 3. our admins will give you voice when i call you |
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| 19:00.30 | carols | 4. You have 5 minutes to confer about who should get the dupe |
| 19:00.43 | rockbox|scorche | we are juts trying to give those who you called voice now - but please stay silent unless called ;) |
| 19:00.44 | carols | 5. If you cant' decide between yourselves in 5 minutes I will decide for you. |
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| 19:00.58 | carols | 6. All decisions made in this meeting are final. |
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| 19:01.07 | carols | That's all I've got. |
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| 19:01.10 | carols | let's start. |
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| 19:01.26 | carols | i'd like reps from Hugin and OpenImageIO first please |
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| 19:01.50 | carols | student in question is Åukasz Maliszewski |
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| 19:01.57 | SRabbelier | hmmm, I don't see any from either |
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| 19:02.02 | rockbox|scorche | if you need voice and have not gotten it due to your nice, please change it and if necessary, PM me |
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| 19:02.08 | rockbox|scorche | s/nice/nick |
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| 19:02.12 | SRabbelier | if you are from Hugin or OpenImageIO, please /query me or rockbox|scorche |
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| 19:02.16 | carols | i'll wait a minute to see if they appear |
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| 19:02.52 | carols | going once - we need Hugin and OpenImageIO |
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| 19:03.16 | carols | going twice |
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| 19:03.49 | carols | going three times. student will go to Hugin. |
| 19:03.52 | carols | next up. |
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| 19:04.03 | carols | i need reps from FiberCorps and Hugin |
| 19:04.08 | rockbox|scorche | nemo messaged me - not sure what org he is with |
| 19:04.08 | carols | i think i know where this is going to go |
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| 19:04.26 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v fibercorps|Crawf] by SRabbelier |
| 19:04.32 | debian|ArthurLiu | I paged on #hugin but everyone seems to be away |
| 19:04.35 | rockbox|scorche | oh - nevermind |
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| 19:04.43 | carols | student in question is "Dipak" |
| 19:04.51 | carols | anyone here from fibercorps or hugin? |
| 19:04.59 | fibercorps|Crawf | Here! |
| 19:05.03 | carols | great |
| 19:05.10 | carols | i dont think we have anyone from HUgin |
| 19:05.14 | rockbox|scorche | please only message me if you belong to an org that has been called - hugin, fibercorps, eclipse foundation, Universal Subtitles,  Liquid Galaxy Project,  Point Cloud Library, and  OpenImageIO |
| 19:05.22 | carols | so the student will go to fibercorps |
| 19:05.45 | carols | decided |
| 19:05.46 | carols | next |
| 19:05.49 | fibercorps|Crawf | Easiest dedupe ever! |
| 19:05.50 | fibercorps|Crawf | Thanks1 |
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| 19:06.00 | carols | i'd like reps from Liquid Galazy and PCL |
| 19:06.03 | carols | Galaxy |
| 19:06.05 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | watup |
| 19:06.06 | carols | typing too fast |
| 19:06.13 | carols | hello, do i have PCL folks here? |
| 19:06.14 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v PCL|rusu] by rockbox|scorche |
| 19:06.15 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | Here |
| 19:06.15 | PCL|rusu | yup, here |
| 19:06.17 | carols | great |
| 19:06.18 | carols | ok |
| 19:06.27 | carols | have you guys already spoken about this dupe? |
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| 19:06.32 | PCL|rusu | greg is one of our strongest candidates. |
| 19:06.32 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | Only briefly. |
| 19:06.32 | carols | student in question is Greg L |
| 19:06.43 | PCL|rusu | we talked to him too, he leans towards PCL, as it fits his PhD work |
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| 19:06.55 | carols | liquidgalaxy|ADV: do you guys agree with this assessment? |
| 19:06.57 | PCL|rusu | his sample code was spot on, on what we need (marching cubes - he applied for surface reconstruction) |
| 19:06.58 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | Not what he said to us exactly. |
| 19:07.03 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | We also talked to Greg L, and he did not express a strong preference. |
| 19:07.07 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | On the other hand, that may be true. |
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| 19:07.18 | PCL|rusu | "In the course of writing this email, I think I am actually leaning towards PCL, but not by a very large margin." |
| 19:07.22 | PCL|rusu | :) |
| 19:07.27 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | Ok |
| 19:07.29 | carols | liquidgalaxy|ADV: would you be willing to give the student up and accept a different one instead? |
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| 19:07.34 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | Yes. |
| 19:07.41 | carols | great. |
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| 19:07.50 | PCL|rusu | awesome. thanks a lot ben! |
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| 19:07.50 | carols | liquidgalaxy|ADV: can you please unaccept the student? |
| 19:07.54 | carols | that will resolve the dupe |
| 19:07.56 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | np |
| 19:07.58 | carols | and accept someone else |
| 19:07.59 | carols | great |
| 19:08.00 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | Thank you |
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| 19:08.01 | carols | thanks |
| 19:08.04 | carols | moving on |
| 19:08.04 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | will do |
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| 19:08.11 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | Greg should be great. |
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| 19:08.12 | SRabbelier | LiquidGalaxy|ben: let me know when you have, so I can re-run the dup script |
| 19:08.21 | carols | i need reps from Eclipse and Universal Subtitles, please |
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| 19:08.23 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | 1 min |
| 19:08.29 | PCL|rusu | (sorry, adv) |
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| 19:08.41 | SRabbelier | I don't see any eclipse nor any universal sub admins |
| 19:08.48 | carols | i'll wait a minute |
| 19:08.57 | carols | eclipse or universal subtitles going once |
| 19:09.06 | rockbox|scorche | if you are with either of those orgs, please PM SRabbelier or i for voice |
| 19:09.07 | carols | student in question is Isuru Udana Loku Narangoda |
| 19:09.32 | carols | going twice |
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| 19:10.07 | carols | going three times. student goes to Universal Subtitles. |
| 19:10.17 | carols | alright folks, i need to rerun the dupe checker |
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| 19:10.20 | carols | so hold on a sec |
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| 19:10.32 | SRabbelier | carols: do you need me to un-accept those students from the absent orgs? |
| 19:10.41 | carols | SRabbelier: already done |
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| 19:10.52 | SRabbelier | carols: should have known :) |
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| 19:11.59 | carols | meanwhile, do i have an NTP rep here? |
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| 19:12.16 | rockbox|scorche | not that i see from nick at least |
| 19:12.18 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | carols: Because of the decision here, we'd like to re-assign a mentor. May that be done later today or tomorrow? |
| 19:12.24 | dberkholz | harlan_: ping |
| 19:12.33 | carols | liquidgalaxy|ADV: today would be good if you can. sooner the better |
| 19:12.35 | rockbox|scorche | liquidgalaxy|ADV: as soon as possible please |
| 19:12.35 | SRabbelier | liquidgalaxy|ADV: only if you aren't assigning a mentor to a project that previously didn't have one |
| 19:12.55 | SRabbelier | liquidgalaxy|ADV: since otherwise it wouldn't have shown up as a duplicate |
| 19:13.11 | carols | do i have a rep from plone here? |
| 19:13.23 | plone|kevin7kal | plone here carls |
| 19:13.23 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | Ok we'll get that in soon. |
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| 19:13.32 | plone|kevin7kal | carols |
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| 19:13.43 | carols | plone|kevin7kal: hey |
| 19:13.49 | carols | why aren't you using all your slots? |
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| 19:14.00 | carols | its coming time for public shaming |
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| 19:14.33 | plone|kevin7kal | ? carols ? we gave one back and then we had a dupe with mozilla which I think is now resolved |
| 19:14.48 | carols | plone|kevin7kal: alright, one of your slots is unused, so i will take it back? |
| 19:15.16 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v wayne_eclipse] by SRabbelier |
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| 19:15.27 | SRabbelier | wayne_eclipse: did you not see the request to go with org|nick? |
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| 19:15.46 | carols | wayne_eclipse, SRabbelier: we'll take this one offline. |
| 19:15.54 | plone|kevin7kal | let me confirm that - but I believe that was from the dupe w/ mozilla which I just unaccepted as he chose mozilla |
| 19:15.58 | SRabbelier | carols: works for me |
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| 19:16.04 | carols | plone|kevin7kal: great, thank you. |
| 19:16.12 | carols | alright, i dont see any further duplicates folks |
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| 19:16.24 | carols | i would still like to talk to NTP if someone shows up |
| 19:16.28 | carols | but I'm calling that a meeting |
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| 19:16.35 | kblin | wow |
| 19:16.40 | carols | ======End of Deduplication Meeting====== |
| 19:16.41 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by rockbox|scorche |
| 19:16.42 | carols | cheers |
| 19:16.44 | ErikRose | Awesome. |
| 19:16.45 | jatovm|penberg | woohoo! |
| 19:16.48 | carols | SRabbelier: you can unmute |
| 19:16.49 | ajed | that was quick |
| 19:16.49 | k9|hypatia | wow, that was fast :) |
| 19:16.49 | sumanah | yay! |
| 19:16.49 | freedroidrpg|jkw | Thanks guys. |
| 19:16.50 | Umit|Adriano | awesome! |
| 19:16.50 | SRabbelier | heh, Lennie was right |
| 19:16.51 | shogun|sonney2k | yay! |
| 19:16.52 | Samba|kblin | ./quit |
| 19:16.53 | Python|Arc | WOW |
| 19:16.53 | Mono|shana | yay |
| 19:16.53 | openintents|Peli | thanks |
| 19:16.54 | SRabbelier | 15 minutes indeed |
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| 19:16.56 | Samba|kblin | ./quit |
| 19:16.56 | Xordan | quick :) |
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| 19:16.57 | NRNB|Alex | new record! |
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| 19:16.58 | genome_informati | great....thx |
| 19:16.59 | Samba|kblin | me |
| 19:17.00 | Catroid|sercan | that was fast :D |
| 19:17.00 | gentoo|osuosl|lh | carols: well done. :) |
| 19:17.01 | Umit|Luis | awesome! |
| 19:17.02 | akshayagarwal | wow! |
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| 19:17.05 | aghisla|OSGeo | cookies! |
| 19:17.06 | saidinesh5 | wow |
| 19:17.06 | nuigroup|cmoore | all done? |
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| 19:17.08 | xen|lars | Thanks, that was short and painless |
| 19:17.09 | akshayagarwal | wE CROSSED 645! |
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| 19:17.10 | JPF|nrungta | carols: thanks |
| 19:17.11 | CGAL|Hemmer | ok, good night ! :) |
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| 19:17.14 | OpenMRS|chopin | \o |
| 19:17.15 | openintents|Peli | What happens to the slots that were returned? |
| 19:17.15 | globus|borja | Wow, I look away for two minutes and the meeting is over? |
| 19:17.16 | OpenCV|GaryB | Gentlepeople, start your coding. Bye |
| 19:17.18 | boltrix | carols: thanks! ;-) |
| 19:17.18 | carols | JPF|nrungta: yw |
| 19:17.20 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | carols, you wanted to talk to the liquidgalaxy project after the deduplication meeting? |
| 19:17.20 | cycL0 | ahh voice |
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| 19:17.26 | UnknownHoriz|Nih | great, thanks for the quick meeting carols |
| 19:17.26 | digitalmars|andr | now that I changed my nick :D |
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| 19:17.29 | nemo | openintents|Peli: aye. I wonder the same |
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| 19:17.32 | digitalmars|andr | thanks carols |
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| 19:17.41 | Blender|LetterRi | carols ty for being so quick and efficient :) |
| 19:17.41 | carols | you're welcome everyone :-) |
| 19:17.42 | GNU|Jatin | !next |
| 19:17.43 | gsocbot | GNU|Jatin: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
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| 19:17.51 | lgritz | family emergency! Sorry I was late, any chance I can still resolve my conflict? |
| 19:17.53 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | We have accepted another project and assigned a mentor. |
| 19:17.56 | SRabbelier | yearns for +m back |
| 19:17.57 | Lennie | Someone called my name :P? |
| 19:18.02 | nuigroup|cmoore | danke carols, night all :) |
| 19:18.05 | subrahmanyam | !next |
| 19:18.06 | gsocbot | subrahmanyam: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 19:18.07 | mzj | !next |
| 19:18.07 | gsocbot | mzj: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 19:18.09 | kblin | lgritz: what org? |
| 19:18.09 | SRabbelier | Lennie: I said "heh, Lennie was right" about it taking 15 minutes |
| 19:18.11 | Blender|LetterRi | lgritz do openimageio|lgritz |
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| 19:18.16 | *** topic/#gsoc by SRabbelier -> Welcome to Google Summer of Code 2011! Student application closed. Please read the FAQs - http://goo.gl/Up2Qf and the Timeline - http://goo.gl/0lYPz for more info. |
| 19:18.18 | lgritz | openimageio|lgritz |
| 19:18.19 | *** mode/#gsoc [-vvvv dberkholz liquidgalaxy|ADV LiquidGalaxy|ben PCL|rusu] by rockbox|scorche |
| 19:18.21 | ajed | SRabbelier, set eyes +speed |
| 19:18.21 | Blender|LetterRi | kblin openimageio |
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| 19:18.29 | kblin | lgritz: talk to carols I guess |
| 19:18.29 | Blender|LetterRi | carols - lgritz openimageio |
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| 19:18.43 | asmeurer | question: can we still shuffle mentors for our accepted projects? |
| 19:18.43 | subrahmanyam | #gsoc |
| 19:18.49 | carols | asmeurer: yes |
| 19:18.53 | asmeurer | ok, good |
| 19:18.54 | gambit|rahul | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.02 | kblin | gambit|rahul: no |
| 19:19.06 | SRabbelier | gambit|rahul: not until the 25 ;) |
| 19:19.14 | gambit|rahul | kblin: ok, thanks. |
| 19:19.21 | carols | gambit|rahul: absolutely not. |
| 19:19.23 | kblin | gambit|rahul: google will do that for you on the 25th, feel free to contact them afterwards |
| 19:19.25 | lgritz | carols: any chance I can still resolve my conflict for openimageio? |
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| 19:19.36 | digitalmars|andr | carols: when will the "Pending acceptance" label change to "accepted"? |
| 19:19.44 | SRabbelier | digitalmars|andr: the 25th |
| 19:19.45 | alex_m | !next |
| 19:19.45 | gsocbot | alex_m: "next" is April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC |
| 19:19.46 | carols | lgritz: nope. decisions made in the deupe meeting are final |
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| 19:19.51 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | carols, you wanted to talk to the liquidgalaxy project after the deduplication meeting? |
| 19:19.52 | shreya | k |
| 19:19.54 | lgritz | what happened, then? |
| 19:19.55 | gambit|rahul | carols: ok. |
| 19:19.56 | carols | digitalmars|andr: once we accept students on monday |
| 19:20.06 | saksham | how do u reply back to someone on IRC? Is there a shortcut to typing SRabbelier for example? |
| 19:20.07 | digitalmars|andr | carols: thx and out |
| 19:20.10 | carols | liquidgalaxy|ADV: i think we're good now - if you accepted another student? |
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| 19:20.11 | lgritz | carols: there was no dupe, the student chose our org, the other org was supposed to unaccept. |
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| 19:20.12 | SetiInstitute|Av | carols - How do we add co-mentors? |
| 19:20.18 | SRabbelier | saksham: some clients support tab completion |
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| 19:20.22 | AmineKhaldi | ah, thanks for reminding me, SetiInstitute|Av |
| 19:20.28 | AmineKhaldi | I was meaning to ask about the same thing |
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| 19:20.31 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | carols: yes we accepted another student |
| 19:20.32 | SRabbelier | saksham: pidgin does, just type SRa<tab> |
| 19:20.40 | liquidgalaxy|ADV | and yes we're all straight |
| 19:20.41 | Drizzle|KentB | yes, we have a student we would like to have two mentors work with |
| 19:20.43 | saksham | SRabbelier: :) |
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| 19:20.50 | SRabbelier | !co-mentors | SetiInstitute|Av |
| 19:20.53 | SRabbelier | !comentors | SetiInstitute|Av |
| 19:20.58 | SRabbelier | damnit |
| 19:21.01 | AmineKhaldi | :) |
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| 19:21.04 | Blender|LetterRi | heheh |
| 19:21.05 | SRabbelier | anyone remember what it was? |
| 19:21.11 | kblin | !fail | SRabbelier |
| 19:21.13 | gsocbot | SRabbelier: "fail" is That's not one of my factoids. Pay attention! |
| 19:21.13 | blacktooth|away | !botabuse | SRabbelier |
| 19:21.15 | AmineKhaldi | lol |
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| 19:21.16 | gsocbot | SRabbelier: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 19:21.16 | blacktooth|away | :P |
| 19:21.17 | ajed | lol |
| 19:21.19 | SRabbelier | !comentor | SetiInstitute|Av |
| 19:21.22 | SRabbelier | I give up |
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| 19:21.27 | aseem | lol |
| 19:21.33 | ajed | SRabbelier, perhaps the nick | is putting the bot off |
| 19:21.38 | shayan | !mentor |
| 19:21.42 | shayan | oops |
| 19:21.46 | piyushmishra | !comentor |
| 19:21.53 | piyushmishra | !co-mentor |
| 19:21.53 | gsocbot | piyushmishra: "co-mentor" is You can be added as co-mentor once the proposals have been converted to projects, which will happen when announcing the accepted students. |
| 19:21.57 | piyushmishra | :D |
| 19:22.03 | AmineKhaldi | aha ! |
| 19:22.04 | saksham | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.08 | AmineKhaldi | ie after the 25th |
| 19:22.09 | Ophiuchi | !learn next as student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 19:22.09 | gsocbot | Ophiuchi: "next" is (#1) April 22nd: 19:00 UTC - End of reviews, deduplication meeting on IRC, or (#2) student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
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| 19:22.12 | saksham | ph sum1 did it |
| 19:22.17 | AmineKhaldi | thanks |
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| 19:22.31 | SetiInstitute|Av | Thanks. |
| 19:22.31 | idlecool | !botsnack |
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| 19:22.42 | hakzsam | thanks for the meeting, see you all ! |
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| 19:22.48 | robbyoconnor | !countdown |
| 19:22.48 | gsocbot | robbyoconnor: "countdown" is (#1) http://goo.gl/Bf4qL, or (#2) For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 19:22.50 | nemo | 15:21 <gsocbot> You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. |
| 19:22.50 | SRabbelier | !co-mentor | SetiInstitute|Av |
| 19:22.51 | gsocbot | SetiInstitute|Av: "co-mentor" is You can be added as co-mentor once the proposals have been converted to projects, which will happen when announcing the accepted students. |
| 19:22.51 | piyushmishra | idlecool: !cookie |
| 19:22.55 | SRabbelier | there we go :) |
| 19:22.55 | robbyoconnor | !forget countdown 1 |
| 19:22.56 | gsocbot | robbyoconnor: "countdown" is For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 19:22.56 | shayan | !forget next 1 |
| 19:22.57 | gsocbot | shayan: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:22.59 | nemo | heh. so much for trying to dig up the !co-mentor myself :) |
| 19:23.02 | shayan | !next |
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| 19:23.09 | nemo | apparently gsocbot get irritated at repeated !fail |
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| 19:23.21 | robbyoconnor | nemo: your org rocks |
| 19:23.24 | robbyoconnor | just sayin |
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| 19:23.29 | adarsh | has meeting done for marine biological laboratory? |
| 19:23.29 | shayan | !learn next student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 19:23.30 | gsocbot | shayan: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
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| 19:23.32 | robbyoconnor | it may be thre reason I got a C+ in calc 2 |
| 19:23.37 | nemo | robbyoconnor: not as useful as the awesome projs on here though :) |
| 19:23.38 | shayan | !learn #gsoc next student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
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| 19:23.38 | gsocbot | shayan: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 19:23.46 | nemo | robbyoconnor: we are negatively productive, unlike, say, gimp... |
| 19:23.46 | robbyoconnor | nemo: nonsense |
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| 19:23.48 | shayan | !learn #gsoc next as student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 19:23.49 | gsocbot | shayan: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 19:23.51 | robbyoconnor | it causes tanks in GPA |
| 19:23.53 | robbyoconnor | :P |
| 19:23.56 | scorche | briefly considers going +m again just for some relaxation |
| 19:23.56 | adarsh | @ carol : has meeting done for marine biological laboratory? |
| 19:23.57 | idlecool | !cookie |
| 19:23.57 | nemo | heh |
| 19:23.57 | gsocbot | idlecool: "cookie" is omnomnom |
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| 19:24.02 | chrome96 | !next |
| 19:24.02 | gsocbot | chrome96: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 19:24.05 | idlecool | :) |
| 19:24.06 | robbyoconnor | very very important |
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| 19:24.21 | idlecool | piyushmishra: ;) |
| 19:24.23 | chrome96 | !cat |
| 19:24.24 | robbyoconnor | scorche: just let mayham occur |
| 19:24.24 | nemo | so. I know I keep asking... but those freed up slots - are they redistributed, or vapourised? |
| 19:24.26 | robbyoconnor | walk away |
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| 19:24.28 | leumas_ | !next |
| 19:24.29 | gsocbot | leumas_: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 19:24.29 | piyushmishra | :) |
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| 19:24.35 | scorche | robbyoconnor: you are one to talk... |
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| 19:24.51 | robbyoconnor | scorche: pfft. I've never caused mayham |
| 19:24.52 | openimageio|lgri | carols: I still don't know what happened. Did the student lose all funding? There was not supposed to be a conflict, the two orgs and the student were in communcation, student chose us, other org was supposed to "unaccept". |
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| 19:25.02 | scorche | robbyoconnor: just mayhem? |
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| 19:25.15 | carols | openimageio|lgri: please email me. i'm not going to be able to resolve this via IRC. |
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| 19:25.35 | jkwood | robbyoconnor: No, you're just the first guy to start stealing tvs when it does occur. |
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| 19:25.48 | kblin | carols: kudos for the fastest dedup ever, btw |
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| 19:25.53 | robbyoconnor | jkwood: I love you |
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| 19:26.08 | carols | kblin: thanks. it was really the fact that most of them were resolved before the meeting :-) |
| 19:26.09 | wojtek | how many duplicates were there last year? |
| 19:26.19 | ajed | carols, a dedup meeting that fast! you have dinner on the table or?.. |
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| 19:26.24 | adarsh | @ carol : has meeting done for marine biological laboratory? |
| 19:26.27 | jkwood | robbyoconnor: <3 |
| 19:26.34 | carols | ajed: dinner? it's only just after noon |
| 19:26.36 | kblin | adarsh: not sure what you're asking, actually |
| 19:26.44 | scorche | adarsh: the meeting has been concluded... |
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| 19:26.45 | ajed | carols, dinner = lunch in England |
| 19:26.50 | robbyoconnor | 326 here in NY :) |
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| 19:26.56 | carols | ajed: oh! well, i ate that before the meeting :-) |
| 19:27.09 | adarsh | marine biological laboratory is the organization participating in gsoc . |
| 19:27.09 | ajed | carols, one of our many many quirks in the language :) |
| 19:27.12 | adarsh | so i wanted to ask |
| 19:27.13 | carols | so i wouldn't sugar crash and yell at all of you :-) |
| 19:27.17 | |Kev| | ajed: No it doesn't, people in the UK can't decided whether dinner is at lunchtime or teatime :p |
| 19:27.17 | adarsh | is the list prepared by the |
| 19:27.24 | |Kev| | s/ded/de/ |
| 19:27.29 | scorche | adarsh: i really dont know what you are asking... |
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| 19:27.32 | ajed | |Kev|, it's "tea" oop north! |
| 19:27.33 | ruaok | carols: normally things would just now get moving. strong work! |
| 19:27.36 | |Kev| | Dinner is the main meal of the day, with the other being either lunch or tea :) |
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| 19:27.40 | carols | ruaok: thanks :-) |
| 19:27.41 | kblin | !patience adarsh |
| 19:27.43 | gevaerts | I thought "dinner" was "the big meal, whenever it is"? |
| 19:27.46 | kblin | !patience | adarsh |
| 19:27.46 | gsocbot | adarsh: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
| 19:27.47 | hypatia | sends carols chocolate |
| 19:27.54 | carols | aw thanks hypatia :-) |
| 19:27.58 | carols | munches chocolate |
| 19:27.58 | ajed | gevaerts, then what is supper? all confusing :) |
| 19:27.59 | Xordan | dinner is at teatime down south too <.< |
| 19:28.02 | ruaok | crawls back to his corner and keeps working on cooking day prep |
| 19:28.02 | Mitar | ;-) |
| 19:28.09 | hypatia | carols: will you be at OSCON? |
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| 19:28.13 | robbyoconnor | ajed: according to taco bell, fourthmeal |
| 19:28.14 | gevaerts | ajed: as far as I know supper is a lighter meal in the evening |
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| 19:28.18 | carols | hypatia: of course :-) |
| 19:28.20 | gevaerts | Possibly late |
| 19:28.21 | hypatia | woot |
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| 19:28.24 | |Kev| | ajed: Supper is a snack in the evening after your meals, of course. |
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| 19:28.28 | hypatia | i'm speaking this year |
| 19:28.29 | hypatia | twice |
| 19:28.30 | hypatia | :D |
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| 19:28.32 | adarsh | is the meeting over? |
| 19:28.36 | SRabbelier | adarsh: yes |
| 19:28.36 | Python|Arc | yep |
| 19:28.39 | nirmalfdo | carols, Were there any duplicates for ASF? |
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| 19:28.45 | carols | nirmalfdo: nope |
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| 19:28.49 | ajed | |Kev|, goodness, a light meal after evening meal? no wonder obesity is growing here |
| 19:28.53 | Python|Arc | you would see dups on the webapp |
| 19:28.59 | scorche | nirmalfdo: if you are a mentor/admin, you would know |
| 19:29.02 | SRabbelier | Python|Arc: you forgot to rename |
| 19:29.06 | Xordan | ajed: there's afternoon tea before dinner too! :P |
| 19:29.07 | scorche | nirmalfdo: if you arent, then it doesnt matter to you |
| 19:29.22 | ajed | Xordan, only if you've got time! |
| 19:29.25 | nirmalfdo | carols, thanks |
| 19:29.28 | ezekiel_ | can i find a log of this channel somewhere? |
| 19:29.31 | carols | nirmalfdo: yw |
| 19:29.34 | blacktooth|away | !logs |
| 19:29.34 | SRabbelier | there's also gin o'clock : https://twitter.com/#!/Queen_UK/status/61456485795889152 |
| 19:29.35 | gsocbot | blacktooth|away: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 19:29.37 | Python|Arc | kudos to SRabbelier and company for geting the web framework setup for more efficient de-dups before the meeting :-) |
| 19:29.39 | ankit_frenz | ezekiel_: !logs |
| 19:29.47 | shayan | Python|Arc, can I know how many slots are allotted to mercurial? |
| 19:29.49 | akshayagarwal | !logs | ezekiel_ |
| 19:29.49 | adarsh | i could not see my mentor chatting in here :P |
| 19:29.50 | gsocbot | ezekiel_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 19:29.55 | ajed | SRabbelier, elevenses too? |
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| 19:30.11 | SRabbelier | Python|Arc: thanks, it was actually me being lazy and not wanting to implement manual ranking ^^ |
| 19:30.16 | SRabbelier | Python|Arc: worked out rather well methinks |
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| 19:30.33 | SRabbelier | shayan: why are you asking Arc? |
| 19:30.35 | Sh4wn | the best programmers are lazy people |
| 19:30.41 | SRabbelier | Sh4wn: word |
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| 19:30.43 | gevaerts | ajed: if you have dinner in the evening somewhat early-ish, and you stay up late, it's not that hard to get hungry again! |
| 19:30.46 | wojtek | all programmers are lazy people |
| 19:30.47 | wojtek | :P |
| 19:30.47 | Python|Arc | shayan: we don't allocate per team, but they got 2 students |
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| 19:30.48 | ankit_frenz | Sh4wn: ture |
| 19:30.52 | Sh4wn | :) |
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| 19:31.02 | shayan | Python|Arc, Thanks :) |
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| 19:31.07 | ajed | gevaerts, when hunger strikes, think of the waistline! |
| 19:31.11 | SRabbelier | Python|Arc: oh, merc is participating under pythin this year? |
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| 19:31.14 | SRabbelier | python even |
| 19:31.17 | gevaerts | ajed: more is better! |
| 19:31.17 | shayan | wonders if he is one those two ;) |
| 19:31.20 | Python|Arc | SRabbelier: yes |
| 19:31.30 | SRabbelier | ah, fair enough |
| 19:31.30 | jkwood | Pythin. It's the diet version of Python. |
| 19:31.31 | kblin | wojtek: that doesn't disprove what Sh4wn said :) |
| 19:31.33 | Python|Arc | shayan: you'll find out monday when they're announced :-) |
| 19:31.36 | LetterRip | so it is safe to leave now? |
| 19:31.40 | LetterRip | just making sure :) |
| 19:31.42 | ajed | gevaerts, not when summer is closing in on us... beachbody time |
| 19:31.47 | jkwood | I'm not sur it's safe to stay. |
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| 19:31.53 | jkwood | After all, I'm here. |
| 19:31.53 | shayan | Python|Arc, :) |
| 19:31.56 | wojtek | kblin: not intended to :P |
| 19:31.59 | SRabbelier | LetterRip: yeah, you were good to leave 15m ago |
| 19:32.01 | Sh4wn | :P |
| 19:32.02 | kblin | LetterRip: sure, if you don't mind us chattering behind your back |
| 19:32.08 | LetterRip | hehe |
| 19:32.21 | gevaerts | ajed: have fun, but don't expect *me* on a beach! |
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| 19:32.32 | ajed | gevaerts, whyever not |
| 19:32.33 | ajed | ? |
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| 19:32.40 | nemo | lemme know if I'm spamming... but the freed up slots - will they be redistributed? |
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| 19:32.50 | gevaerts | ajed: I like to spend my time in fun places! |
| 19:32.53 | kblin | nemo: no, we sell them on ebay |
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| 19:32.56 | kblin | ;) |
| 19:32.57 | nemo | kblin: hm |
| 19:33.00 | nemo | kblin: I'm up for that |
| 19:33.06 | nemo | kblin: we were seriously considering pooling our money |
| 19:33.07 | kblin | nemo: on a more serious note, yes |
| 19:33.11 | nemo | and having a runner up be a 3rd slot |
| 19:33.14 | Sh4wn | yeah "more is better" is our punchline too here in our student house gevaerts xD |
| 19:33.22 | ajed | gevaerts, fun and frolicking in the beach... why wouldn't you be there! |
| 19:33.23 | nemo | s/were/are/ |
| 19:33.26 | scorche | oh, sheesh - oscon seems to have corporate-level pricing =/ |
| 19:33.34 | gevaerts | ajed: let me guess... in the sun? |
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| 19:33.47 | ajed | on the beach, in the sun... w/e |
| 19:33.59 | gevaerts | isn't that much of a sun fan |
| 19:34.04 | scorche | wonders if it is worth making a trip up to portland to see some people and just browse around the expo hall |
| 19:34.08 | kblin | gevaerts: dude, you really need a laptop with a display that can deal with direct sunlight ;) |
| 19:34.14 | hypatia | scorche: hallwaycon |
| 19:34.15 | Python|Arc | SRabbelier: I owe you some caramel chocolate. see you at the mentor's summit :-) |
| 19:34.25 | SRabbelier | Python|Arc: I'm so there |
| 19:34.29 | nemo | oh. speaking of our runner up being funded by our beer money... will the gsoc melange website w/ all the apps still be available after the 25th? |
| 19:34.31 | gevaerts | kblin: sun == hot, and I don't like that! |
| 19:34.34 | nemo | if we want to read through 'em? |
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| 19:34.43 | wojtek | nemo: yes |
| 19:34.43 | SRabbelier | wonders how much caramel chocolate a human can safely consume in a few hours |
| 19:34.50 | jsilvaa | just came in from komodo, anything I should know? |
| 19:34.51 | gsoc_anoop | Why mentors should not disclose the results to students right now ? |
| 19:34.57 | hypatia | what's the LD50 of caramel chocolate? |
| 19:34.57 | SRabbelier | nemo: sure |
| 19:34.59 | kblin | SRabbelier: up for an experiment? |
| 19:34.59 | PCL|rusu | SRabbelier: tons |
| 19:35.02 | nemo | gsoc_anoop: 'cause google might hate your picks and cancel all your slots |
| 19:35.03 | SRabbelier | kblin: I hate you |
| 19:35.04 | SRabbelier | kblin: yes |
| 19:35.19 | gsoc_anoop | oops !! |
| 19:35.23 | scorche | hypatia: still seems lame that what i assume to be some sort of open source conference uses corporate con prices |
| 19:35.23 | SRabbelier | PCL|rusu: only one wayt o find out, for science! |
| 19:35.23 | kblin | hypatia: not sure if testing on rats extrapolates |
| 19:35.36 | gsoc_anoop | well i am no mentor !! :) |
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| 19:35.45 | PCL|rusu | SRabbelier: absolutely! we can record point clouds of you during the experiment, and compute your volumetric mass |
| 19:35.56 | SRabbelier | rolls |
| 19:36.00 | SRabbelier | (pun intended) |
| 19:36.05 | gevaerts | gsoc_anoop: Some of us accept "Those who pay get to make the rules" as a good enough reason :) |
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| 19:36.30 | carols | kblin: did you see we got up to 641 people in here? surely thats a record :-) |
| 19:36.32 | piyushmishra | remembers cat herding |
| 19:36.34 | hypatia | don't look a gift google in the mouth? |
| 19:36.44 | isuru | !logs |
| 19:36.45 | gsocbot | isuru: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 19:36.49 | gsoc_anoop | even i accept that... :) .. i agree |
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| 19:36.53 | scorche | carols: not sure - let me check my records |
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| 19:37.00 | carols | scorche: thanks :-) |
| 19:37.07 | gevaerts | Yes, this is important! |
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| 19:37.13 | SRabbelier | doesn't mind his sisters cats visiting, but does mind them trying to climb up on the desk and wreak havoc |
| 19:37.27 | kblin | carols: possibly, yes. that might be the additional orgs you took on |
| 19:37.29 | dberkholz | maybe in a few years it'll catch up to #gentoo |
| 19:37.35 | adarsh | !help |
| 19:37.35 | ajed | loans SRabbelier a gun |
| 19:37.35 | gsocbot | adarsh: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 19:37.39 | dberkholz | 19:37 [freenode] -!- #gentoo 909 |
| 19:37.46 | ajed | infact, waterpistol* more fun |
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| 19:37.58 | kblin | SRabbelier: dude, you need to move out of your parents' basement ;) |
| 19:38.01 | nemo | dberkholz: heh. I tried for a #gentoo-help for a while, hoping it would cut down on #gentoo noise - it never caught on |
| 19:38.04 | carols | kblin: yeah |
| 19:38.06 | gevaerts | dberkholz: I'm sure people only care about records in #gsoc :) |
| 19:38.11 | zutshi | help |
| 19:38.15 | SRabbelier | kblin: it's not a basement actually, also, I am moving to Chicago EOY |
| 19:38.19 | dberkholz | just think, it could one day be the biggest channel on freenode. |
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| 19:38.31 | kblin | muahahaha |
| 19:38.31 | jkwood | Oh heavens no. |
| 19:38.44 | adarsh | @ carols : great job .. i am eager to work with you some day ;) |
| 19:38.58 | scorche | dberkholz: there was one year that freenode staff can into the channel as it had set off alarms for them |
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| 19:39.00 | kblin | SRabbelier: don't tell me you got a job offer from that weird company with a G in it's name |
| 19:39.05 | nemo | #ubuntu wins right now - 1560 users |
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| 19:39.17 | adarsh | hmm |
| 19:39.23 | dberkholz | oh cool, they finally started using irc. |
| 19:39.24 | SRabbelier | kblin: :) |
| 19:39.25 | nemo | surprising given I'd moved to #ubuntu+1 |
| 19:39.39 | nemo | dberkholz: ubuntu breaks up its channels more :) |
| 19:39.42 | Ophiuchi | how does one even use a channel that large? |
| 19:39.52 | dberkholz | spray and pray |
| 19:39.57 | jkwood | It's less using it and more enduring it. |
| 19:39.57 | hypatia | it helps to turn off joins and parts |
| 19:39.59 | socketguru | #debian has more crowd |
| 19:40.03 | ajed | Ophiuchi, chuck a question in and log the answers |
| 19:40.10 | Mitar | ok, so the meeting is over? ;-) |
| 19:40.16 | nemo | socketguru: not according to alis |
| 19:40.21 | Ophiuchi | I mean, any size if you moderate and have mainly listeners, but for a general chat? |
| 19:40.25 | nemo | socketguru: alis says #ubuntu is currently tops on freenode :) |
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| 19:40.26 | carols | Mitar: yes. enjoy the rest of your day |
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| 19:40.31 | Mitar | thanks ;-) |
| 19:40.34 | Mitar | you too |
| 19:40.36 | nemo | socketguru: /msg alis list * -min 1000 |
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| 19:40.45 | jkwood | carols: Can I enjoy the rest of his day too? |
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| 19:41.01 | LiquidGalaxy|ben | Carols, do you need anything more from Liquid-Galaxy? |
| 19:41.05 | SRabbelier | nemo: neat |
| 19:41.06 | gevaerts | jkwood: I'd say that's for the two of you to decide :) |
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| 19:41.14 | asmeurer | are backup mentors ever assigned officially? |
| 19:41.23 | gevaerts | !co-mentors | asmeurer |
| 19:41.25 | SRabbelier | wth does archlinux have such a huge crowd for? |
| 19:41.27 | gevaerts | !co-mentor | asmeurer |
| 19:41.28 | gsocbot | asmeurer: "co-mentor" is You can be added as co-mentor once the proposals have been converted to projects, which will happen when announcing the accepted students. |
| 19:41.38 | jkwood | gevaerts: I just figured she was handing them out. |
| 19:41.41 | nemo | socketguru: I tried list ubuntu* but it returned nothing - apparently that is "more than 60 channels" |
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| 19:41.49 | SRabbelier | gevaerts: eheh |
| 19:41.51 | gevaerts | jkwood: no, that's slots! |
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| 19:41.56 | SRabbelier | kblin: when are you adding aliasses? |
| 19:41.56 | scorche | carols: nope - record was 874 |
| 19:41.58 | nemo | oh. oops. forgot the #. doh |
| 19:42.00 | bugQ | SRabbelier: why shouldn't it? |
| 19:42.01 | asmeurer | ok |
| 19:42.04 | socketguru | nemo: thanks |
| 19:42.08 | bugQ | <3 arch |
| 19:42.14 | SRabbelier | bugQ: I thought nobody used it ;) |
| 19:42.20 | scorche | Peak for #gsoc@freenode: 874 (Mon Apr 21 14:44:36 2008) |
| 19:42.29 | carols | scorche: wow, when was that? |
| 19:42.43 | asmeurer | how does that work, excatly? |
| 19:42.52 | asmeurer | is there only one co-mentor per project? |
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| 19:42.59 | scorche | carols: i know! |
| 19:42.59 | gevaerts | scorche: acceptance announcement day? |
| 19:43.04 | jkwood | carols: I'd guess April 21, 2008. |
| 19:43.09 | asmeurer | and is it still only the main mentor who does the evaluations? |
| 19:43.17 | scorche | attempts to answer carols's questyions before she asks |
| 19:43.26 | carols | thanks scorche :-) |
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| 19:44.39 | gevaerts | Ah, yes. "Accepted Student Proposals for 2008 Announced" was that day |
| 19:45.07 | mzj | i'm postive the record will be broken this year |
| 19:45.54 | gevaerts | mzj: even worse, the discussion in here will be like a broken record that day! |
| 19:46.08 | ajed | "is it time yet" |
| 19:46.10 | mzj | gevaerts: :) |
| 19:46.10 | ajed | right? |
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| 19:46.20 | ZeKoU | Hi |
| 19:46.24 | bugQ | well it's time for lunch, anyway |
| 19:46.31 | gevaerts | ajed: more or less, probably :) |
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| 19:46.33 | SRabbelier | nope |
| 19:46.44 | SRabbelier | Methinks /mode +m for the win |
| 19:46.44 | mzj | gevaerts: the number indicates how many are unsure about their selection/who are new to the whole process - would u agree with that? |
| 19:46.47 | jkwood | I told all my students that they owe me a quarter for every time they pester me about who we picked. |
| 19:46.47 | piyushmishra | late yr students were mailed their results minutes before the time for results |
| 19:46.55 | piyushmishra | preventing ddos :D |
| 19:47.01 | ZeKoU | does anyone know when can we expect GSoC results? I have hard time opening Melange calendar, and I forgot... |
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| 19:47.04 | scorche | debates between going back to sleep and staying up, eating something, and getting started on some papers... |
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| 19:47.10 | solardiz | carols: will we be able to get gsoc t-shirts sent to students who we don't accept because of lack of slots, yet who end up completing their projects anyway? and to their mentors? oh, and thanks for the extremely professionally done meeting! |
| 19:47.13 | SRabbelier | kblin: so what's this experiment you mentioned? |
| 19:47.27 | gevaerts | mzj: not really. I think a lot of them will be there because they want to have been there, if you see what I mean |
| 19:47.30 | g4ur4v | !next |
| 19:47.30 | gsocbot | g4ur4v: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 19:47.32 | nemo | solardiz: ooh. yeah. that's a good point |
| 19:47.34 | carols | solardiz: email me, we'll see what we can do. and you're welcome. :-) |
| 19:47.39 | mzj | gevaerts: :) hmm |
| 19:47.41 | nemo | solardiz: we are still hopeful on that front ourselves :) |
| 19:47.44 | ajed | the t-shirt is what it's all about! |
| 19:47.50 | nemo | solardiz: esp if our "beer money" pool hits a few hundred |
| 19:47.53 | mzj | gevaerts: to be able to say "been there, done that" |
| 19:47.59 | jkwood | solardiz: What we did last year, was to spend part of our mentoring money on project T-shirts, and sent those out. |
| 19:47.59 | scorche | solardiz: typically, it has been google open source programs office shirts instead of GSoC shirts, as they were not a part of GSoC |
| 19:48.03 | gevaerts | mzj: yes, something like that |
| 19:48.05 | lezard | just out of curiosity |
| 19:48.12 | adam_vollrath | wait what mentoring money? |
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| 19:48.19 | g4ur4v | if a student proposal is rejected,will he be informed? |
| 19:48.25 | mzj | g4ur4v: yes |
| 19:48.25 | scorche | g4ur4v: of course |
| 19:48.26 | lezard | what would happen if a student that was accepted got killed just before the start of gsoc lol |
| 19:48.26 | nemo | jkwood: man. you guys have all kinds of awesome ideas |
| 19:48.27 | SRabbelier | adam_vollrath: orgs get 500/student |
| 19:48.34 | mzj | lezard: not funny |
| 19:48.37 | SRabbelier | adam_vollrath: some orgs give that to the mentors |
| 19:48.42 | scorche | lezard: i really dont think that would be funny |
| 19:48.50 | nemo | jkwood: we could take *those* monies and pour them into a couple of runner ups! |
| 19:48.51 | lezard | it is when you're the one that almost got killed lol |
| 19:48.56 | scorche | ... |
| 19:48.57 | adam_vollrath | hrm I don't know what we'll do with that. Maybe buy equipment. |
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| 19:49.08 | mzj | lezard: kindly avoid such talk here |
| 19:49.11 | gevaerts | !learn lol as Saying lol doesn't make something funny |
| 19:49.11 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "lol" is Saying lol doesn't make something funny |
| 19:49.13 | lezard | ok sorry |
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| 19:49.31 | saksham | !lol |
| 19:49.32 | gsocbot | saksham: "lol" is Saying lol doesn't make something funny |
| 19:49.35 | saksham | :D |
| 19:49.41 | lezard | saksham =P |
| 19:49.51 | scorche | ponders if we should bring linbot in here |
| 19:49.52 | nemo | jkwood: do you happen to know when that money is disbursed? like, is it before the start of summer? |
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| 19:50.06 | antarus | scorche: I fear your bot army |
| 19:50.08 | jkwood | nemo: I don't, no. But, we have offered bounties for some smaller projects, yes. |
| 19:50.14 | SRabbelier | scorche: linbot? |
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| 19:50.25 | jkwood | scorche: That can only end in tears. |
| 19:50.28 | scorche | it was more something jkwood would understand, but.. ;) |
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| 19:50.55 | jkwood | I don't think he's on Freenode, anyway. |
| 19:50.57 | scorche | one of its many functions is to mock anyone using such terms as "lol" |
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| 19:51.12 | scorche | jkwood: probably not |
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| 19:53.16 | kblin | adam_vollrath: some orgs pass on the money to the mentors |
| 19:53.16 | SRabbelier | scorche: nice ^^ |
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| 19:53.28 | adam_vollrath | I don't rly need the money |
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| 19:53.56 | kblin | adam_vollrath: it can be a tax hassle :) |
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| 19:54.04 | adam_vollrath | i bet |
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| 19:54.29 | dberkholz | especially if your org isn't a c3, so you get to pay tax twice on a pass-through |
| 19:54.51 | dberkholz | we don't do it, but that sounds like a great way to throw money away |
| 19:55.01 | vsrinivas | have the students been notified yet of acceptance/not? |
| 19:55.07 | carols | vsrinivas: monday |
| 19:55.17 | jkwood | I guess you could pass the money on to charity and not have to pay taxes. |
| 19:55.41 | kblin | I think you can tell google to keep the change :) |
| 19:55.45 | vsrinivas | carols: thanks; |
| 19:55.50 | carols | vsrinivas: yw |
| 19:56.09 | ezekiel_ | hw many slots did MBL get? |
| 19:56.21 | carols | ezekiel_: i'd recommend you ask them. |
| 19:56.35 | carols | ezekiel_: and they will choose if they tell you. |
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| 19:56.58 | ezekiel_ | ok thank you! |
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| 19:57.55 | Kroosec | Is it possible to know how many slots a project got ? |
| 19:58.12 | adam_vollrath | only if you're a mentor for that project |
| 19:58.19 | carols | Kroosec: ask them |
| 19:58.20 | kblin | or if you wait until monday |
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| 19:58.51 | scorche | the broken record has already begun playing ;) |
| 19:59.07 | ajed | lol scorche |
| 19:59.14 | kblin | !learn monday as usually considered stormy, but take it from me: tuesday's just as bad. |
| 19:59.15 | gsocbot | kblin: "monday" is usually considered stormy, but take it from me: tuesday's just as bad. |
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| 19:59.28 | gevaerts | scorche: it started years ago actually :) |
| 19:59.38 | ajed | difficult to wait another 3 days when the last 2 weeks have been tense i guess |
| 19:59.50 | kblin | gevaerts: I never was that bad as a student |
| 19:59.51 | nemo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:59.59 | scorche | ajed: go on vacation somewhere with no internet ;) |
| 19:59.59 | carols | nemo: nope |
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| 20:00.12 | dbolser | lezard: hi |
| 20:00.13 | gevaerts | ajed: if *everyone* ends up managing to wait, will it have been that difficult? |
| 20:00.17 | kblin | gevaerts: I completely forgot about gsoc until I got that "welcome to gsoc" email |
| 20:00.17 | idlecool | !patience | diablo |
| 20:00.17 | gsocbot | diablo: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 20:00.38 | ajed | I've been busy cycling |
| 20:00.39 | dbolser | lezard: around? |
| 20:00.39 | gevaerts | kblin: that sounds like a good way :) |
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| 20:00.57 | diablo | !botabuse | idlecool |
| 20:00.57 | gsocbot | idlecool: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 20:00.58 | ajed | taking it easy :) |
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| 20:01.13 | sinha | !logs |
| 20:01.14 | gsocbot | sinha: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 20:01.21 | idlecool | !cookie |
| 20:01.21 | gsocbot | idlecool: "cookie" is omnomnom |
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| 20:01.42 | idlecool | diablo: look! he is happy :P |
| 20:02.05 | diablo | idlecool : :P |
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| 20:02.30 | idlecool | ;) |
| 20:02.42 | kblin | gevaerts: it totally was |
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| 20:03.22 | solardiz | dberkholz: is there any problem with a regular for-profit corporation sending its mentoring org money to the mentors, provided that they invoice for that (as a service)? i think the expense is tax deductible for the company then. |
| 20:04.02 | dberkholz | solardiz: ask your accountant, the money's paid as if the company is contracting |
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| 20:04.57 | dberkholz | we're a c3 and hang onto the money as an org, so i'm really not the best person to ask |
| 20:05.45 | solardiz | dberkholz: thanks. sounds like the same thing as if those mentors provided a service to a client of the company, being its contractors. so any monies paid to them should be tax-deductible as cost of goods sold. |
| 20:06.00 | hypatia | in canada it's just a contracting expense |
| 20:06.02 | gevaerts | wonders what a c3 does when it gets a po |
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| 20:06.14 | hypatia | so "tax-deductible" isn't the right term, it's just an expense |
| 20:06.28 | hypatia | as would be any contracting expenditure |
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| 20:07.03 | dberkholz | honestly, i'm not sure. our foundation people take care of that |
| 20:07.53 | lezard | it sucks you cant play with the bot on query =P |
| 20:07.57 | adam_vollrath | let them worry about it then |
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| 20:08.16 | dhaun | !gsocbot | lezard |
| 20:08.16 | gsocbot | lezard: "gsocbot" is http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot |
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| 20:09.04 | nemo | hm... so if we took the money and gave it directly to other student runner ups, that would be like us gifting the money, and tax reporting would be up to the student, not us, right? |
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| 20:09.26 | dbolser | oh hey lezard, I was thinking about what you suggested the other day |
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| 20:09.36 | lezard | yay, thanks dhaun |
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| 20:09.46 | scorche | nemo: we will not be able to answer this for you - you need to consult a local tax specialist |
| 20:09.47 | lezard | hi dbolser, i hope your idea is going well |
| 20:09.49 | kblin | nemo: I don't think any of us are qualified to give tax advice :) |
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| 20:10.06 | dbolser | lezard: :-) |
| 20:10.07 | kblin | harlan: carols was looking for you earlier |
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| 20:10.13 | harlan | this timezone stuff is always fun... |
| 20:10.13 | lezard | its kinda awkward to use that sintax but, i'm having fun =D |
| 20:10.16 | brooks | nemo: IIRC you probably need to give them a 1099-E, but what kblin said :) |
| 20:10.21 | carols | it's been worked out harlan |
| 20:10.22 | nemo | kblin: heh. you guys are too serious n careful - I thought IRC was all about IANA(X) WAGs :-p |
| 20:10.30 | solardiz | nemo: i am not an accountant, but i think both you and the students will be responsible for your taxes unless you have the students invoice you for the service or the like |
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| 20:10.47 | harlan | I saw - thanks carols |
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| 20:11.22 | nemo | that's the spirit solardiz :) |
| 20:11.27 | nemo | that sounds annoyingly like work though |
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| 20:11.35 | kblin | nemo: hey, I'm a German, I'm not funny until I can fill out a form requesting to be funny in triplicate ;) |
| 20:11.59 | kblin | and that's where the "programmers are lazy" thing triggers |
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| 20:12.29 | nemo | kblin: http://hashify.me/IyBSZXF1ZXN0IEZvciBGdW5ueQoqKlBsZWFzZSBlbnRlciByZWFzb24gYmVsb3c6Kio= |
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| 20:13.04 | kblin | nemo: toucheé |
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| 20:13.34 | adarsh | !next |
| 20:13.34 | gsocbot | adarsh: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
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| 20:13.39 | kblin | scorche: oh, btw, with respect to having a bot ridicule people who say "lol"... |
| 20:13.44 | kblin | !botbugs | scorche |
| 20:13.45 | gsocbot | scorche: "botbugs" is Please report bot bugs and feature requests to https://github.com/kblin/supybot-gsoc/issues |
| 20:14.04 | Kroosec | !next |
| 20:14.05 | gsocbot | Kroosec: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 20:14.06 | adarsh | lol |
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| 20:15.09 | SRabbelier | kblin: lol :P |
| 20:15.19 | SRabbelier | awr, ninja-ed by adarsh |
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| 20:17.34 | kblin | SRabbelier: I'll give that a look after I'm done with the !next-POST-trigger |
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| 20:17.45 | SRabbelier | kblin: nice :) |
| 20:17.58 | robbyoconnor | !countdown |
| 20:17.58 | gsocbot | robbyoconnor: "countdown" is For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
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| 20:18.24 | scorche | decides to go back to sleep |
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| 20:18.35 | kblin | and possibly !unqueue, and !relearn |
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| 20:19.39 | victorgood | !interesting |
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| 20:20.09 | victorgood | !countdown |
| 20:20.09 | gsocbot | victorgood: "countdown" is For a countdown for student announcement see http://goo.gl/JPGx3 |
| 20:20.21 | victorgood | !wait |
| 20:20.30 | lezard | own come on... |
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| 20:20.41 | kblin | !botabuse | victorgood |
| 20:20.42 | gsocbot | victorgood: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>, or (#3) You can also get a list of factoids with 'factoids search #gsoc *' and 'more' |
| 20:20.49 | lezard | i thought that there were more fun factoids like !cookie, anyone else knows one? =D |
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| 20:21.08 | kblin | !this cookie | lezard |
| 20:21.09 | gsocbot | lezard: "this cookie" is for you |
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| 20:21.59 | kblin | and obviously |
| 20:22.05 | kblin | !when | lezard |
| 20:22.05 | gsocbot | lezard: "when" is later |
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| 20:22.13 | agliodbs | !next |
| 20:22.14 | gsocbot | agliodbs: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 20:22.32 | lezard | kblin thanks =D |
| 20:22.34 | SRabbelier | !learn this as not the factoid you are looking for |
| 20:22.34 | gsocbot | SRabbelier: "this" is not the factoid you are looking for |
| 20:22.41 | SRabbelier | ^__^ |
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| 20:23.08 | apurvtwr | deduplication meeting over? |
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| 20:23.21 | DanKluev | apurvtwr: yes, it was quick |
| 20:23.27 | SRabbelier | apurvtwr: it was about an hour ago :) |
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| 20:23.38 | SRabbelier | has a Melange sticker |
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| 20:23.53 | SRabbelier | wonders what to stick it on |
| 20:24.04 | kblin | SRabbelier: your spice rack? |
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| 20:24.26 | apurvtwr | hmm |
| 20:24.27 | SRabbelier | kblin: win |
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| 20:27.28 | apurvtwr | so is it ok to ask the orgs about the results (if they are willing to tell us)... or google still asks them to keep it a secret? |
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| 20:27.42 | adam_vollrath | the latter |
| 20:27.47 | apurvtwr | ok |
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| 20:28.50 | aghisla | if the former, we could rephrase "Students announcement is on 25th" to "Students announcement is on 25th only for who doesn't ask the organisation before" :P |
| 20:28.50 | SRabbelier | !patience | apurvtwr |
| 20:28.51 | gsocbot | apurvtwr: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
| 20:29.16 | apurvtwr | lol |
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| 20:30.05 | sinha | Ujju_: asked the org ? |
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| 20:30.32 | kblin | SRabbelier: thinking again, maybe that plugin's priority is rising |
| 20:30.47 | SRabbelier | kblin: shouldn't be too hard? ;) |
| 20:30.53 | kblin | goes to read up on regex plugins |
| 20:31.15 | kblin | SRabbelier: that's what I thought last time and it took a couple of hours |
| 20:31.37 | SRabbelier | kblin: that's my definition of "not too hard" |
| 20:32.13 | kblin | well, it's a couple of hours I could spend on my DNS implementation otherwise |
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| 20:36.56 | SRabbelier | kblin: no-one cares about that though ;) |
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| 20:40.27 | kblin | SRabbelier: I do |
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| 20:40.34 | SRabbelier | pfshaw :) |
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| 20:41.04 | kblin | SRabbelier: and for some reason I seem to have the second-most important say on what I spend my free time on |
| 20:41.50 | SRabbelier | kblin: fair enough :D |
| 20:41.55 | SRabbelier | calls kblin's SO |
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| 20:42.33 | kblin | now that'd be ninja'd |
| 20:42.54 | kblin | if the phone wouldn't be lying on my desk right here next to me |
| 20:42.58 | kblin | >:) |
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| 20:43.30 | SRabbelier | kblin: darn |
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| 20:53.50 | Noman | Hi. |
| 20:54.02 | Noman | Is the conflict meeting done? |
| 20:54.24 | ajed | it was a 15 minute record |
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| 20:54.34 | ajed | and it was 2 hours ago ish |
| 20:55.08 | Noman | ah, k :) |
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| 20:55.53 | SRabbelier | Noman: no that doesn't get you anything if you're a student |
| 20:56.26 | Noman | I'm the admin for Ogre3D |
| 20:56.42 | SRabbelier | Noman: ehehe, then why weren't you ehre :D |
| 20:56.57 | SRabbelier | you missed all the fun! |
| 20:57.10 | Noman | =) |
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| 21:07.50 | tsudot | sumitk, hey |
| 21:08.08 | sumitk | tsudot: hey |
| 21:08.18 | tsudot | applied for drupal this year? |
| 21:08.45 | sumitk | tsudot: well I am org admin for drupal this year |
| 21:08.55 | tsudot | Sweet! :D |
| 21:09.09 | sumitk | tsudot: what you upto? |
| 21:09.20 | mits | sumitk: f u |
| 21:09.29 | tsudot | sumitk, XSF |
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| 21:10.11 | sumitk | tsudot: nice! hope all goes well |
| 21:10.20 | tsudot | thanks |
| 21:10.32 | laserbled_ | !next |
| 21:10.33 | gsocbot | laserbled_: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
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| 21:14.47 | gsocbot | sk: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 21:35.04 | dfighter | http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/04/texas-jury-finds-against-google-in.html |
| 21:35.12 | dfighter | those damned patent trolls |
| 21:35.17 | dfighter | attacking our precious kernel |
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| 21:52.18 | DanKluev | dfighter: algorithm patents is insane idea |
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| 21:53.04 | _silentAssassin | DanKluev, agree !! +1 |
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| 21:54.14 | dfighter | DanKluev not anymore than gene patents |
| 21:54.17 | dfighter | but yes I agree |
| 21:54.47 | dfighter | those Texas people must have eaten too many armadillos or something |
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| 21:56.11 | DanKluev | Couldn't Google appeal though? |
| 21:56.25 | Ahmuck | ArthurLiu, meeting on de-duplication over? |
| 21:56.59 | dfighter | DanKluev you can always appeal I think, altough I am not a lawyer |
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| 21:57.47 | dfighter | funny thing is, with Google's resources they could even take it to the US Supreme Court eventually and attack the notion of algo patents |
| 21:59.37 | _silentAssassin | this is about the bedrock suit ? |
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| 21:59.56 | dfighter | yes |
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| 22:00.23 | _silentAssassin | i think this was just on the district court level |
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| 22:00.39 | dfighter | it was |
| 22:00.45 | _silentAssassin | google will definitely appeal |
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| 22:01.26 | _silentAssassin | bedrock sued google earlier as well ... but was counter sued by redhat in support !! |
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| 22:01.50 | _silentAssassin | http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/21/google-ordered-to-pay-5-million-in-linux-patent-infringement-su/ |
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| 22:02.59 | Talad | !next |
| 22:02.59 | gsocbot | Talad: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 22:03.04 | dfighter | "Red Hat, the company supplying the OS behind Google's search engine services, was suing Bedrock for patent invalidity." |
| 22:03.07 | dfighter | haha |
| 22:03.21 | dfighter | I had no idea Google uses RHEL |
| 22:03.52 | _silentAssassin | i thought google used a custom distro !! |
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| 22:33.22 | Ahmuck | who is bedrock connected to? |
| 22:33.38 | Ahmuck | is this the right place for this conversation? |
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| 22:34.44 | thiago | no |
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| 22:34.59 | thiago | unless you're discussing The Flintstones... |
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| 22:37.01 | Ahmuck | bedrock --> garrod --> goodwin/proctor(?) |
| 22:37.08 | Ahmuck | i'd follow the money |
| 22:37.12 | Ahmuck | anywho, l8r |
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| 23:03.13 | varg_vik | !deadline |
| 23:03.13 | gsocbot | varg_vik: "deadline" is Proposals must be assigned to mentors by 7:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/OOYuO). Proposals must be ranked/scored by 17:00 UTC April 22nd (countdown: http://goo.gl/JDKkg). |
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| 23:05.38 | be-unique | hey how are things going with GSoC? are there any public lists of accepted students? |
| 23:05.52 | carlasouza | !next |
| 23:05.53 | gsocbot | carlasouza: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 23:05.57 | carlasouza | be-unique: ^ |
| 23:06.02 | be-unique | yep I kno wthat |
| 23:06.06 | carlasouza | :) |
| 23:06.09 | be-unique | 25th it gets published by google |
| 23:06.12 | be-unique | just tryin :) |
| 23:06.18 | be-unique | maybe there is some info.. |
| 23:06.22 | be-unique | a blog or something |
| 23:06.28 | carlasouza | haha I'm curious too =s |
| 23:06.45 | be-unique | com.. on there has to be something leaked out |
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| 23:08.06 | netepal | has the duplicate resolving session been ended |
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| 23:09.09 | ChickeNES | netepal: yeah, it was earlier today |
| 23:09.35 | netepal | ok, thanks |
| 23:10.02 | netepal | and how would the student know that his status is conflicting or not? |
| 23:10.38 | be-unique | netepal: it's concidered that you're ok to work fo each project you submitted. |
| 23:10.59 | netepal | ?? |
| 23:11.01 | be-unique | so if you weren't informed they might have resolved the problem however they find better... |
| 23:11.32 | DanKluev | netepal: some orgs asked students by email. Some decided between themself, w/out informing student. Some didn't decide and Carol decided on her own |
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| 23:11.53 | be-unique | you might want to check with your mentors, they'll know for sure |
| 23:12.19 | netepal | but will they disclose the information that i have been selected or not? |
| 23:12.35 | brik | if noone contacted you, then I'm sure it's all fine |
| 23:12.44 | brik | netepal: no, they can't tell you until the 25th |
| 23:13.18 | netepal | and if they had contacted me then? |
| 23:13.39 | brik | then you would have known if you were a duplicate or not |
| 23:13.48 | brik | well, without the or not |
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| 23:14.40 | dhaun | !chill |
| 23:14.40 | gsocbot | dhaun: "chill" is what you all need to do. Also see !when. |
| 23:14.47 | dhaun | !patience |
| 23:14.47 | gsocbot | dhaun: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
| 23:14.58 | dhaun | just sayin' :) |
| 23:15.16 | vivekp | !when |
| 23:15.16 | gsocbot | vivekp: "when" is later |
| 23:18.17 | KTran | !next |
| 23:18.18 | gsocbot | KTran: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
| 23:18.32 | KTran | !who |
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| 23:33.55 | marekweb | I took the bot's patience advice and coded something useful. Now what. |
| 23:35.13 | spectre | !next |
| 23:35.14 | gsocbot | spectre: "next" is student acceptance gets announced on the 25th |
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| 23:36.06 | nattofriends | marekweb: rinse and repeat |
| 23:36.36 | marekweb | :) |
| 23:39.01 | jrabbit | marekweb: document it? |
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