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| 08:00.55 | nickbarnesccf | For the purposes of the Google Supplier form, are we "providing services or goods in the US" ? |
| 08:03.29 | waldi | nickbarnesccf: are you in this US? |
| 08:03.36 | nickbarnesccf | no. |
| 08:03.58 | nickbarnesccf | but our students are. |
| 08:04.06 | nickbarnesccf | and one of our mentors is. |
| 08:04.33 | Ivanovic | nickbarnesccf: the supplier is the "org" |
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| 08:04.47 | nickbarnesccf | yes, I know that. |
| 08:04.57 | nickbarnesccf | but where are the goods and services supplied? |
| 08:04.58 | Ivanovic | if the org is entered as some inc and based in the us: yeah, enter this one |
| 08:05.02 | Prasath | Hi when do i submit offcial documents for google? |
| 08:05.08 | Prasath | I didnt get any emails |
| 08:05.16 | Ivanovic | there, where the org is "at home" i'd guess |
| 08:05.45 | nickbarnesccf | "Non-US suppliers providing services or goods in the US: you will need to complete an additional form W-8BEN [PDF]." |
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| 08:05.53 | Ivanovic | IIRC it comes down on the address data you entered in the org profile |
| 08:06.05 | nickbarnesccf | Hoping to get an official answer. I am quite capable of guessing myself. |
| 08:06.05 | Ivanovic | hmm, okay, good one |
| 08:06.09 | nickbarnesccf | :-) |
| 08:06.10 | Ivanovic | maybe send a mail to the mentor list |
| 08:06.22 | Ivanovic | that is: several other orgs got the same prob, too |
| 08:06.33 | Ivanovic | so a general answer from carols will probably help |
| 08:06.39 | nickbarnesccf | there's a contact link on the form. I expect Google have solved it before. |
| 08:07.22 | Ivanovic | the supplier stuff is sadly a different branch of google compared to the open source office which hosts gsoc |
| 08:07.50 | Ivanovic | so it was probably asked "many times" but not said directly to the open source office |
| 08:08.53 | Prasath | Hi when do i submit offcial documents for google? |
| 08:09.10 | mlankhorst | !faq |
| 08:09.11 | gsocbot | mlankhorst: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 08:09.20 | kai | Prasath: when google asks you to |
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| 08:09.45 | kai | nickbarnesccf: what's the exact legal entity that deals with google on behalf of your org? |
| 08:09.56 | Prasath | kai: So there is no need to send official docs unless google requires? |
| 08:10.21 | kai | well, google requires it, but don't send them stuff until they tell you what to send where |
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| 08:11.35 | Prasath | kai: Thanks |
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| 12:26.51 | yno | hi |
| 12:27.11 | yno | what status does google provide to gsoc student? are they considered hired by google? |
| 12:27.45 | kai | no |
| 12:27.54 | kai | !faq | yno |
| 12:27.54 | gsocbot | yno: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 12:30.35 | hc | what's '| yno' do? |
| 12:30.47 | yno | it sends the message to me? |
| 12:30.51 | yno | with hl |
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| 12:31.17 | hc | ah. :) i mistook that for a unix-pipe syntax. |
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| 12:31.43 | yno | kai: You are considered a contract developer doing work for hire for Google. Your dates of employment will be 23 May - 22 August, 2011. |
| 12:31.59 | kai | hc: well, yes, it pipes the response to a specified nick |
| 12:32.13 | kai | work for hire != hired |
| 12:32.18 | yno | ok |
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| 12:32.31 | yno | thanks |
| 12:32.37 | kai | if you hire a cab, the taxi driver isn't employed by you, is he? |
| 12:32.43 | yno | :> |
| 12:33.02 | kai | I think the term for the status is "independent contract work" |
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| 12:33.38 | yno | ok |
| 12:34.50 | kai | I'm pretty sure the terms of service have that in the legalese somewhere |
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| 12:41.15 | yno | kai: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/tos |
| 12:41.32 | yno | if these are the terms of service I didn't find so into it |
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| 12:55.24 | kai | indeed |
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| 12:55.46 | kai | still, my point still stands, you won't be hired by google during gsoc |
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| 13:00.39 | yno | yes I got it but except for the sentence I just quoted our status isn't defined anywhere else afaik |
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| 13:16.25 | kai | yes, if it bothers you, file a bug |
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| 13:17.50 | yno | ok, thanks :) |
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| 13:22.10 | pratikone | Isn't there is a database of GSoC selctions since the inception of the program ? Please provide the link of it. |
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| 13:23.49 | dberkholz | not in a single source, and everything since melange started (except this year) isn't currently available pending more code being written |
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| 13:24.42 | dberkholz | 2005-2008 are available at urls like http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ (replace the year) |
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| 13:28.35 | pratikone | dberkholz, well there IS a link to a file which contains data upto 2010. I have come across that file sometime back and couldn't remember the source now. |
| 13:28.46 | pratikone | Official or not, I am not sure |
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| 13:29.57 | dberkholz | nothing official i'm aware of |
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| 13:36.36 | XTF | Hi. I'm a student and my project got accepted. Apparently a mentor has been assigned, but I haven't been notified about this. Did I miss any email? |
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| 13:45.40 | kodaws | so there's this problem that i haven't understood: should we plan with the student what the final deliveables are? |
| 13:45.54 | kodaws | and what will we have to send to google when it's time |
| 13:45.57 | killteck | XTF: my mentor is busy too, so i send him email to intoduce myself |
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| 13:46.42 | |Kev| | kodaws: Mentors should be agreeing project plans with the students, yes. |
| 13:47.10 | |Kev| | Google won't ask to see these, but you should go through whatever project management techniques are appropriate. |
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| 13:51.57 | kodaws | |Kev|, are the project plans related to mid and end evaluation? |
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| 14:22.51 | XTF | killteck: My mentor says he didn't get an email either. |
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| 14:24.38 | abhinav- | !logs |
| 14:24.38 | gsocbot | abhinav-: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:31.40 | aghisla | cookies everyone |
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| 14:33.11 | XTF | Yes please |
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| 15:09.47 | Eric | hello, how will us send the proof of enrollment to Google? I havn't got related mail, did I miss it? |
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| 16:19.58 | mlankhorst | lh! |
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| 17:56.18 | kblin | grah |
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| 20:19.54 | XTF | Hi. I'm a student and my project got accepted. Apparently a mentor has been assigned, but I haven't been notified about this. Did I miss any email? |
| 20:20.59 | bitnerd | XTF: you will want to follow up with your organization |
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