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04:08.58alinrusanyone managed to withdraw more than 400$?
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06:29.37kaimorning thebolt, how's things?
06:30.17theboltkai: so so today.. slept very badly last night..
06:30.23thebolthow about you?
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06:35.42kaifine, a bit tired, fell asleep trying to debug kerberos domain joins with our current rc1 version
06:37.13sri13Hi, any one whose working on GIMP project here ?
06:37.28kai!anyone | sri13
06:37.28gsocbotsri13: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here>
06:37.28ojwb!anyone|sri13
06:37.36kaiojwb: haha
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06:38.08ojwbthose spaces slowed you down...
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06:38.20ordexhi guys. Did anyone from europe receive the package?
06:38.24kaiojwb: on my client, I was first :)
06:38.41ojwboh, so the ordering isn't the same everywhere
06:38.46ojwbdidn't realise that
06:39.03kaiojwb: I even got the reply from gsocbot before your line came through :)
06:40.07ojwbdoesn't believe you
06:40.11ojwbgod does not play dice with irc
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06:40.36kaiwe can check the logs tomorrow :)
06:40.42ordexlol
06:41.09kaiordex: I seem to remember some people mentioning they got their packages
06:41.28kaibut shipping usually fans out quite a bit, regardless of continent
06:41.48ordexlol
06:41.54ojwbkai: to give you time to falsify them, eh?
06:42.11kaiojwb: no, because ibot only flushes them once a day
06:42.11ordexbecause it seems that only a little part of us received it. Carol will have a lot of emails to read this weekend :D
06:42.57kaiI think for the "getting stuff shipped", we'd be better off with an "amazon summer of code" ;)
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06:43.33beng-nl_:-)
06:43.44ordexlol
06:43.45ordex:D
06:43.45beng-nl_<lurk>
06:43.47jrabbitmelange seems to be working so thats a plus over reddit summer of code :P
06:43.58kaithere's that
06:45.12kaiand you can push your sourcecode to code.google.com, instead of having to make a book/movie out of it
06:46.18jrabbitI donno AWS could run some srs git deamons
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06:48.33kaijrabbit: and be unavailable all of a sudden?
06:48.37kaino thanks :)
06:48.58jrabbitoh right haha
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07:09.42vpericordex: yeah, I've got it here in CZ and I heard people from Germany got it too.
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07:21.56ordexvperic: ah..then I think I'm not so lucky
07:22.09vpericWhere are you?
07:22.13ordexItaly
07:22.19ordexwhen did you receive it?
07:22.27vpericNotably, they send it to your username/public name, so that can be a problem.
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07:22.43vpericyesterday
07:22.46ordexah ok
07:22.58ordexwhy should it be a problem?
07:23.16vpericwell if they mail it to eg. Ordex at some address, there's a big chance people won't realize it's for you. ;)
07:23.26vpericBut I don't know what you've got written there.
07:23.37ordexlol :D it's a surprise
07:24.03ordexI think they used the address I wrote in the form..at least I hope so :P
07:24.34ordexwhat company was in charge of delivering the package? fedex?
07:25.16vpericyes
07:25.25ordexmh..ok
07:25.47ordexI think that the local delivery is then done by the post company..I don't trust them so much
07:26.30ordexvperic: btw, thank you for the information :)
07:26.39vpericnp
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07:30.41RlyDontKnowI got my package directly from fedex
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07:30.51ordexRlyDontKnow: where ar u from?
07:30.59RlyDontKnowgermany
07:31.29ojwbit'll vary depending what fedex's infrastructure is like where you are
07:31.29ordexah ok
07:31.44RlyDontKnowalso they called me as they couldn't figure out who's supposed to get it xD
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07:32.48ordexnice
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07:33.17RlyDontKnowindeed. I'm not used to that kind of service from other packet delivery services tbh
07:35.50thebolti had that both from fedex and dhl
07:36.10RlyDontKnowdhl just drops it at a random person in the house and doesn't even notify me sometimes o_O
07:36.13RlyDontKnowsame with hermes
07:36.37thebolti had some stuff shipped from US with fedex while i still was a student.. fedex called me and asked if i was home, i was not but at uni, so they delivered it to outside one of the entrances at uni for me (and called me when he was there so i could run out and get it)
07:36.46RlyDontKnowor they do notify me that I wasn't there, but didn't even try to ring the bell...
07:37.30ordexit depends on several factors. Fedex can also be the best delivery company in the world, but then end-user delivery depends on the local company which is in charge of doing it
07:37.56thebolt(and dhl delivered to my dorm in taiwan, even though they normally didn't deliver to school dorms)
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08:08.30neverpanicfedex dropped by package at the first person in my house
08:08.48neverpanicat least they left a note
08:08.53neverpanic(Germany, too)
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09:09.06ordexoh someone received it in ITaly right now
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09:28.09nazg-gulwhere's the whole BF team? =\
09:29.30IvanovicBF?
09:29.34Ivanovic!anyone
09:29.34gsocbotIvanovic: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here>
09:29.58nazg-gulIvanovic: Blender Foundation
09:30.21Ivanovic!anyone | nazg-gul
09:30.22gsocbotnazg-gul: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here>
09:30.59nazg-guloops... wrong channel %) it's a #gsoc not #blendercoders :-[
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09:38.27vpericzypper ref
09:38.30vpericwhops, sorry
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10:03.06bobbensis it no longer possible to access the individual project pages of gsoc 2008?
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10:14.22|Kev|bobbens: I (non-authoritatively) believe this to be the case.
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10:16.12cpolymerishi, bobbens
10:16.58bobbenshello cpolymeris
10:17.10bobbens|Kev|: blarg, lost the certificate, still have to try to find it
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11:00.09gremsetI am registering card, on step 3 i get "The Prefix of the Primary Phone number is invalid. Please re-enter." any ideas what is the correct prefix
11:00.22ojwb650 instead of 1650 probably
11:00.48ojwbgremset: ^
11:00.58gremsetojwb: works, thanks
11:01.30tamaragremset just copy the number that is in the right upper corner of the sheet we got in the package
11:02.17gremsettamara: oops, but the phon number was already prefilled, I did not change that.
11:02.20ojwb!learn phone as When registering your payment card, you need to use 650 as the phone number prefix (not 1650)
11:02.20gsocbotojwb: "phone" is When registering your payment card, you need to use 650 as the phone number prefix (not 1650)
11:02.29ojwb!learn phone as When registering your payment card, you need to use 650 as the phone number prefix (not 1650 which it defaults to)
11:02.39gsocbotojwb: "phone" is (#1) When registering your payment card, you need to use 650 as the phone number prefix (not 1650), or (#2) When registering your payment card, you need to use 650 as the phone number prefix (not 1650 which it defaults to)
11:02.39ojwb!forget phone 1
11:02.39gsocbotojwb: "phone" is When registering your payment card, you need to use 650 as the phone number prefix (not 1650 which it defaults to)
11:03.22tamaragremset sorry than my bad, I haven't registered it yet
11:03.49ojwbguesses the 1 is from the international code for the US
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11:36.30gremsetIs there a monthly fee of $3 on the card?
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11:37.54ojwbi don't think there was in previous years
11:39.16gremsetso basically I do need not worry about the amount on card, since it has validity till till 06/13. and can think of getting it out as and when time permits.
11:39.17gremset1`
11:39.29RlyDontKnowright
11:40.31ojwbi think there's probably a page of tips for using the cards somewhere
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11:40.55SukhETwo things from last year's experience: 1). Take out the money as soon as you can.
11:40.59cpolymeristhe fee starts after 6 months, or 3 months after the last deposit, read the back of the card information sheet
11:40.59SukhE2). If you don't make any transaction for three months (please check this), they deduct some amount. That is the only 'fee'. But it might be different this year.
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11:41.44SukhEAnd yes, this information is on the card information sheet which should read.
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11:45.05RlyDontKnowhm... directly transfering to a bank account only works for us accounts, doesn't it?
11:47.10gremsetyes
11:48.19gremsetDo many tudents from the same org know each other. I mean when it is the same org, it is helpful if students talk to each other. Have anyone done so?
11:48.58RlyDontKnowI personally talk to other students, yeah
11:49.04RlyDontKnownot only those of the same org, but meh
11:49.10RlyDontKnow(if they show up on irc that is)
11:49.35RlyDontKnowanyway, it can surerly help at times when you encounter similiar issues
11:50.00gremsetyes exactly, silly issues, which is not worth buggin the mentors
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11:59.17ojwbyou may get an answer more quickly from a fellow student too
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12:00.08kaiespecially seeing how mentors probably never had one of these gsoc card thingies... :)
12:00.36kaiback in my time, google sent out cheques per fedex :)
12:00.57kaiand we only got money once, after the end of the program
12:01.10kaiand you kids, get off my lawn! ;)
12:01.35Ivanovicand even more problematic: most org admins/mentors were likely never students in gsoc!
12:01.46ojwbkai: I think they mean with the project, not with the payment side
12:01.58kaiah, fair enough
12:02.47Ivanovicthat is: of our 5 mentors only two were students in gsoc, one two years ago, one last year
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12:13.12ojwbwonders what proportion of student go on to mentor in a future year
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12:29.05beng-nl_'s former student is mentor this year, rather gratifying
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12:37.51aidecoehello
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12:39.18houbsigrate right when i receive my card and want to use skype to activate it… skype goes down…. sky.net strikes
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12:41.15vpericojwb: hey, I'd rather keep being a student. ;)
12:42.05thebolti missed my chances of being a student.. mentored the years i had the possibility..
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12:46.05aidecoeis it possible to get from Google document for school to credit practises?
12:46.19aidecoeand when i did previous year
12:49.50ojwbaidecoe: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#course_credit
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13:12.21omHi, I read that successful students get a 'certificate of completion'. Is it handwritten?
13:12.41RlyDontKnowwhy would you care whether it's handwritten?
13:13.05omIf yes, can I have it scribed with blood?
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13:14.34dberkholzsure, just supply a vial =P
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13:45.31tamarahello. anyone outside US had any luck calling the number written on the card? It is busy all the time.
13:46.24RlyDontKnowtried 001 instead of just 1, yet?
13:47.27tamaraRlyDontKnow of course and still busy
13:48.12tamarashould I call the US number instead? Think that will be more successful ?
13:48.46RlyDontKnowdoubt
13:49.24tamaraI talked to my fellow gsoc students from my country, no luck either...
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13:57.36tamaraRlyDontKnow should I say anything when I make the call, or it will be an automated call just to enter numbers and get too? Because I don't have a microphone on my computer, and if I need to say something than I should go buy :)
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13:58.07RlyDontKnowI have no idea tamara
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13:58.37tamaraRlyDontKnow ok, thanks
13:58.51RlyDontKnowdidn't do that activation, yet
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14:19.21tamarato anyone who called to get a pin number for the card: are you required to speak during the call or you just enter numbers and get back some?
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14:40.41efeshahah : D The Non-US card activation service has been overloaded ; D
14:42.52tamaraefes you activated yours (are you non-us resident too)?
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14:45.37sqm!next
14:45.38gsocbotsqm: "next" is May 23rd - Students start coding
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14:50.28gremsettamara: automated voice call, just enter the appropriate keys on keypad
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15:04.14efestamara: I am from outside US. The line for non-US callers is busy... in fact the service is unavaiable.
15:04.54efestamara: it's busy since 8 hrs : D
15:09.43tamaraefes I am in the moment calling the us number
15:10.13tamaraand i entered google's zip code and it just says now to enter a pin
15:10.15efestamara: Yeap : ) The US is ok. I tried. However - I can't be used by ppl from outside US
15:10.18tamarashould I continue
15:10.35efestamara: Okey, but non-US residents aren't recognized by postal number.
15:10.42tamarathen?
15:10.46tamaraby what?
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15:11.13efespostal code (zip)
15:11.41tamaraefes I entered my card number, then google's postal number and it was all ok, it asked from me to enter a pin so I can use it
15:12.01gremsettamara: right now just do what it says, that is enter a new 4 digit piin number
15:13.03tamaragremset I hung up because I was not sure if it is ok to register at that number because I am not from us
15:13.17gremsetno probs just go ahead
15:13.27tamaragremset will it work afterwards?
15:13.28neverpanictamara: it's fine if you use gmail or skype to call, just did it
15:13.32neverpanicand it works at my local atm
15:13.47tamaraneverpanic great! did you use the us number too?
15:13.53neverpanicyes
15:14.08efesneverpanic: Does it work for non-us ?
15:14.14neverpanicskype didn't work very well for me because it didn't recognize me typing the card number, gmail worked better
15:14.18neverpanicyes
15:14.22tamaraneverpanic yay! I am calling again now I shouldn't have hung up
15:15.42neverpanicjust make sure to try again if doesn't work the first time
15:16.06neverpanicsomebody said you should type very slowly, but it eventually worked for me typing fast, too
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15:19.04tamaraneverpanic it works fine
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15:22.00tamaraefes I activated it! I hope it works tonight
15:22.01tamara:)
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15:24.19efestamara: :)
15:24.29efesI've just tried the US line. It's good.
15:24.43efesHowever, for non-US is _still_ busy : D
15:24.46houbsihaha on skype the non-us line you have to pay
15:24.48tamaraefes where are you from? and did you activated it too on that line
15:25.06houbsithe US line you have to pay $0.05 for each try
15:25.18efestamara: Poland, UE
15:25.41tamaraefes nice :)
15:25.42efeshoubsi: Well, I will handle with this : D This $500 will cover the bill an even more
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15:26.05houbsiefes: yeah $500 for phonebill/fees/transfer
15:26.24houbsimy bank even told me that it would be better to pay now with this card. and forget the idea to transfer it to my account.
15:26.34efeshoubsi: beer, RAM upgrade... :>
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15:26.53houbsiefes: mediatemple server paid :D (at least i don't have to change this amount) :D
15:26.54aidecoeojwb: thanks. I have already read this. But the essential part of my question is if I can receive it for previus year - GSoC 2010.
15:27.00tamarahoubsi where are you from? I haven't asked the banks in my country but I guess I will get the same response
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15:27.49houbsitamara belgium
15:27.55houbsitamara: where you from?
15:28.05ojwbaidecoe: I think you'd have to ask carols
15:28.18efeshoubsi: Have you had any problems with setting the pin ?
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15:28.35tamarahoubsi I am from macedonia. well I guess it will be even worse here, I will have an answer from the bank in a few hours
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15:30.12gsocbotchinthaka: "next" is May 23rd - Students start coding
15:30.44houbsitamara: would be nice to hear the oppinion from your bank ;)
15:31.01tamarahoubsi sure will let you know :)
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15:32.39houbsitamara: thanks ;)
15:32.58houbsii think I will do some vacation in america :D so i don't have to pay the exchange fee :D
15:33.11tamarahoubsi nice idea :))
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15:33.34houbsiyeah :D isn't there something for GSoC? :D would love to visit google :D
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15:34.08tamarahoubsi no as I now. what project are you on?
15:34.13houbsivideolan
15:35.13tamarahoubsi interesting :)
15:35.36houbsitamara: yeah only my exams for the moment are killing me -.- whats your project?
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15:36.51tamarahoubsi gnome. I passed them all, I only have a paper to write at the moment :) but the project is more interesting so I guess I will not finish it in near future :)
15:37.21houbsihaha :D
15:37.38houbsiwe will talk later… have to go for half an hour :)
15:37.58tamarahoubsi ok, good luck with your exams
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15:40.07efessorry guys, need to restart a router
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15:47.24aidecoeojwb: ok, i will. Thanks.
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16:14.21efesI  just logged to prepaid.city.com
16:14.26efesand the ballance is ... $0
16:14.34efes: |
16:15.10houbsii would love to logge into this :D
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16:19.03neverpanicefes: It says somewhere the funds will be added "shortly after the 23rd", I guess you should wait until 27th and if they're not there by then contact carol
16:19.14neverpanicmine were already on the card, though
16:19.27efesneverpanic: hm hm hm
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16:28.20efesneverpanic: Why this *en CitiBank panel tell the prefix for default number is incorrect? WTF ?
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16:30.24neverpanicefes: reading backlog tells me it is related to the leading "1", but I didn't have the problem and can't help you there
16:30.31neverpanic!logs | efes
16:30.31gsocbotefes: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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16:43.22cemyccHow I activate ATM transactions ?
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16:43.37cemyccI can't find anything about this in the control panel from my card
16:43.41krvojeoops
16:44.17wtachicemycc: you need to call the phone number
16:44.25wtachithe one on the sticker
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16:46.30cemyccwtachi: I had call 1 number from skype to set my PIN I can't call the number from sticker :( I get a busy sound.
16:48.03wtachicemycc: try the US number, with Google's zip code
16:52.14efesthanks guys :)
16:52.15efesbye!
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17:48.40carolsserves tea and cookies
17:48.59gevaertsdrinks some tea
17:49.16dbsgobbles cookies, gets tracked
17:49.40houbsigraah this citi phone number sucks -.- non us busy like hell
17:49.48houbsius doesn't wan't my number after trying for an hour
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17:51.20ankit_frenz1feds one of the cookies to the gsoc bot :P
17:51.22ankit_frenz1!cookie
17:51.23gsocbotankit_frenz1: "cookie" is (#1) omnomnom, or (#2) I take cookies only from my master..and you are not my master..:P
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18:01.26hiemanshuhoubsi: I called the US number and set the pin in one go
18:01.37hiemanshuhoubsi: I called from skype with a zero balance
18:02.09Bizonhiemanshu: did you need to actually speak or it was just entering numbers?
18:02.19hiemanshuBizon: just entering numbers
18:02.26Bizonhiemanshu: nice, thank you very much
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18:03.22houbsihiemanshu: yeah its free, but the non-us number you have to pay 0,05€ for each try to phone them.
18:03.59hiemanshuhoubsi: yeah, but call the US number, it works fine
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