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01:50.51ojwba parcel delivery man just pulled up and I wondered if it was my gsoc package
01:50.58ojwbthen I remembered I'm not a student
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02:08.16theboltoj;)
02:08.19theboltojwb: ;)
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06:37.10Gekzmy gsoc pen was in pieces when I got it lol
06:37.21Gekzand the medal disc separator was misshapen and flimsy
06:37.33Gekzslow in the dark sticker is amusing though
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06:38.11jrabbitit glows in the dark?!
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06:43.35hiemanshujrabbit: yes it does
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06:53.04Gekzmy girlfriend noticed it
06:53.04Gekzhaha
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08:44.30Whoanyone in india got there welcome package ?
08:46.08SukhEWho: Yes. Lots of people have got their packages all over India.
08:46.54Whoi still haven't, today's last date so bit worried
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08:48.02SukhEWho: http://groups.google.com/group/gsoc-india/ if you want to ask about your state and others who might have got the packages.
08:48.15SukhEs/packages/package
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11:14.49ordexdamn we definitely need to call US to activate the pin, right?
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11:17.22redDragon2011_yes
11:18.09ordexdid you think to another way of getting the money out of the card? or is ATM the simplest?
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11:22.27MatthewWilkesordex: You could crack it open and pull the dollar bills out
11:23.55ordexmh..good idea :D
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11:31.20alesis-novikDid anyone try using the card with PayPal?
11:34.45ordexprobably someone wrote something on the list?
11:34.48ordexit would be cool
11:34.56ordexbut I think you have to pay paypal for some fee?
11:34.57ordexor not?
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11:41.44sdimkovare there still people who haven't received their packages?
11:42.02MatthewWilkessdimkov: Why do you ask?
11:42.18kaididn't get one so fa
11:42.33sdimkovMatthewWilkes: Because I haven't got them as well :)
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11:44.09MatthewWilkessdimkov: Then there are people that haven't got them
11:44.11MatthewWilkesyou, for example
11:44.21MatthewWilkesby definition you knew the answer to your question
11:44.28kaiI only ever got my package at the end of the program, at least the last three years
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11:44.58kaiMatthewWilkes: reductio ad absurdum :)
11:45.33MatthewWilkesI prefer ad nausiatum
11:46.17sdimkovMatthewWilkes:needless irony :) I hope appending "..besides me" to the end of the questions makes it more meaningful for you
11:47.35in3xesI didn't get either. I am not expecting it in next 2 weeks.
11:49.03in3xesMy PIN CODE is not FedEx's list. So, last time they sent it by USPS.
11:49.48in3xesI got it in third week of June.
11:49.51kai!chill
11:49.52gsocbotkai: "chill" is what you all need to do. Also see !when.
11:50.02sdimkov!when
11:50.02gsocbotsdimkov: "when" is later
11:50.05sdimkov:D
11:50.08in3xes:P
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11:50.18sdimkovin3xes thanks for the info
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11:53.16sdimkovso just to confirm - Google is using FedEx for shipping welcome packages arround the globe ?
11:53.25RlyDontKnowyes
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11:56.37Gekzyeah
11:57.03thebolthi kai , MatthewWilkes
11:57.08thebolthow are you sirs doing today?
11:59.36kaihm, openoffice fail :/
11:59.40kaihey thebolt
11:59.48ojwbsdimkov: the actual delivery may be via a local company though, depending what fedex do where you live
11:59.57kaikind of busy, need to get a research report done
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12:19.12MatthewWilkeshi thebolt
12:19.13MatthewWilkesBad
12:19.22MatthewWilkesWhat's the worst swear i'm allowed to say in here
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12:20.04MatthewWilkesWell, some *** posted a vulnerability to a public place instead of disclosing it responsibly
12:20.15MatthewWilkesSome committers saw it, fixed it and scheduled the fix for release
12:20.36MatthewWilkeswe (security response team) found out 20 hours later and are working on a short notice patch
12:20.51MatthewWilkesbut MITRE are being ***s and not responding to our CVE requests
12:21.02MatthewWilkesI think *** here is probably "twunt"
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12:21.33Gekzhaha
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12:30.49theboltMatthewWilkes: ah..
12:31.44MatthewWilkesindeed
12:31.46MatthewWilkesThe twunt
12:31.54MatthewWilkesam i getting away with that?
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12:34.11Gekzhow can people code and yet not work out how to fix the bloody prepaid card sign up
12:34.14Gekzis it _really_ that hard?
12:34.27GekzI feel sorry for projects that don't involve me :)
12:34.35Gekzshares his arrogance hat around
12:36.09kaiMatthewWilkes: I've had my share of security bugs posted on youtoube instead of our security list, there's a bit more leeway for days like this
12:38.00MatthewWilkesyoutube?
12:38.10kaiyeah
12:38.17MatthewWilkes…how?
12:38.27kaithey recorded their exploit run
12:39.08kaiso I actually had to type their code off the video to reproduce
12:39.20kaiturns out they sucked, and misconfigured their systems
12:39.26Gekzlolo
12:39.31kaiand I could do the same thing without a code change
12:39.35Gekzso who are you two guys
12:39.46kaibut I was pretty busy for an hour or three
12:40.27kaiwe ended up doing a security release to make some of our vendors happy, iirc
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12:41.13kaibut it was more of "oh, look, if I give a user access to some files, the user can delete them"
12:41.26kaianyway, bbiab
12:41.48MatthewWilkesGekz: I work on Plone
12:41.57Gekzk
12:42.20MatthewWilkeswe're regulars here, been admining project participation for a few years
12:42.29MatthewWilkesGekz: You a student? What are you working on?
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12:43.09GekzApertium
12:43.20Gekzmaking a quality control framework library and set of frontends in Python
12:43.36theboltMatthewWilkes: :) well, i am trying to do the impossible.. writing totally bug-free code (at least free of fatal bugs)
12:43.38Gekzwith some statistics storage in XML and generation of pretty charts :)
12:43.47MatthewWilkescool
12:43.51Gekzregression testing, all the good stuff
12:44.02MatthewWilkesthebolt: FIAGH?
12:44.34theboltMatthewWilkes: hm?
12:44.52MatthewWilkesFuck it and go home
12:45.02theboltMatthewWilkes: i am already home ;)
12:45.09alesis-novikGekz, Apertium is the machine translation project, right?
12:45.20theboltMatthewWilkes: and well, i stopped for today, but it will still be there tomorrow for me to do
12:45.51Gekzalesis-novik: yeah
12:45.57MatthewWilkesYeah, spectie's awesome
12:46.06MatthewWilkesHe was hilarious when I met him
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12:46.13MatthewWilkeshe was talking to me about me without connecting it
12:46.20MatthewWilkes"I know a guy who works on Plone" etc
12:46.22Gekzhaha
12:46.39MatthewWilkestold him and he looked around asking for someone to confirm I wasn't bullshitting
12:46.40alesis-novikI remember writing up a Lithuanian dict for that
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13:00.03Whoso if you don't get the welcome package by today, you need to contact carol right ?
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13:01.49Whoif so what is carol's email ID ?
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13:03.06ojwbit seems a little soon to me, but I don't know what you've been told to expect about delivery dates
13:04.33Whowell i heard 27th was the deadline after that you need to contact carol
13:04.59dberkholzyou heard? isn't she announcing these things on the student list?
13:05.24Whoyeah,  that's what i meant
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13:05.45ojwbfor most of the world it isn't after 27th yet
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13:06.43Whowell that's true but yeah for me its over, and tomorrow is saturday so i doubt fedex will come tomorrow (not sure though)
13:08.08ojwbif you have an email from her saying that, why are you asking what her email address is?
13:10.12Whoojwb:  actually i had digested mode , and her email address was masked on the groups (i tried to unmask it didn't work before)
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13:10.38Whobut i think i got it now, i guess i will mail carol later
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14:04.04zgregdamn, what's going on... the citi hotline for setting up the pin doesn't recognize the DTMF tones of my phone...
14:06.34tudalexzgreg try google talk from gmail
14:06.37tudalexand it's free
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14:09.43marthdhi, can i use my citi account for both of my cards, the one i received from GCI and GSoC?
14:11.18zgregI don't know why, but it perfectly worked now
14:11.29zgregmight be a glitch with citi's systems
14:12.35zgregtudalex: calls to the US are really cheap from here, so I don#t mind
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16:00.53vh4x0rcalling the us number by skype ..
16:01.01vh4x0rgives me an invalid response !
16:01.05vh4x0rwhat should i do ?
16:01.26dberkholzzgreg: usually it'll send you to a human operator eventually...
16:01.59dberkholzgotta deal with all those people who still have rotary phones
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16:06.13vh4x0rdberkholz: it worked, thanks ;p
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16:10.01MatthewWilkesdberkholz: Those people don't exist
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16:11.35dberkholzMatthewWilkes: my parents have one in the garage
16:12.01kaiI've used one of those yesterday
16:12.15MatthewWilkeskai: You went to austria?
16:12.23aghislai had one until few years ago, and it worked fine
16:12.56kaiMatthewWilkes: no, but we had one on stage :)
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16:13.40gevaertsIt's all done with mirrors!
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16:15.07vh4x0rSo, is it okay to remove the white sticker in front of the card ?
16:15.37kaiif nothing works, read the instructions
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16:16.28theboltkai: bah, real men (and women) don't read manuals :P
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16:27.06zfehi folks
16:27.27zfeis there anybody still without package?
16:27.50in3xeszfe: yes
16:28.01zfein3xes: where are you from
16:28.03zfeif i may?
16:28.06in3xesIndia
16:28.13zfedid you mail Carol?
16:28.22in3xesYep
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16:28.43zfemay i PM you?
16:28.46in3xessure
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16:36.54ankit_frenzzfe: am still without package as well :(
16:37.05zfeankit_frenz: where are you from?
16:37.10ankit_frenzIndia
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16:39.57benstezfe: me too :-)
16:40.19bensteand there are no postal deliverys on saturday and monday here :-)
16:40.21in3xesDon't worry! You'll get them soon :)
16:40.37bensteiknow - for this reason i didn't spam carol yet
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16:41.28Marchaelwas amazed when open mail agent and see 72 mail from melange
16:41.54Marchaelthis only for few hours :)
16:42.25ankit_frenzme suggests marchael should get a email grep filter :P
16:42.37ankit_frenzaah typo
16:42.37MarchaelxD
16:42.48ankit_frenzsuggests marchael should get a email grep filter
16:42.50ankit_frenz:P
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16:44.36zfebenste: why not on monday?
16:44.39zfewhere are you living?
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16:44.54benstezfe: because I'm living in a strange country :-)
16:45.07zfeit's the first time i heard about "Monday"
16:45.07zfelol
16:45.12benstein a country where everyone has > 20 Mbit/sec internet connection
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16:45.27zfewhat's that
16:45.28zfekorea?
16:45.29benstewell sunday we don't get anything of course
16:45.31zfefinland?
16:45.35bensteBelgium
16:45.47zfei didn't know people don't work on monday
16:45.48zfein belgium
16:45.55benste-- they do work
16:46.01benstebut they don't deliver the post
16:46.19bensteand e.g. shops tend to open on sunday and close on monday - very strange indeed
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16:48.31houbsigood evening!
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17:02.17thebolthi carols
17:02.23carolshi thebolt
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17:03.54haseeb_Hi carols
17:03.59benstecarols: thanks for stopping this kind of mailing list usage :-)
17:04.09carolshi haseeb_
17:04.13carolsbenste: yw
17:04.37haseeb_Carols:which org
17:04.48benstecarols: sry I'm not that familar with US abreviations - what exactly is yw ?
17:04.54carolshaseeb_: what org?
17:05.00carolsbenste: you're welcome.
17:05.09benste:-)
17:05.30haseeb_carols:you doing gsoc in which org
17:05.41thebolthaseeb_: carols is the overlord of GSOC :P
17:05.45carolshaseeb_: i'm the program administrator.
17:06.08haseeb_carols:i didn't get you
17:06.17carolshaseeb_: i run GSoC.
17:06.19theboltcarols: you are too modest.. you are the supreme ruler and second godess ;)
17:06.30carolsthebolt: i am neither, thank you :-)
17:07.04thebolthaseeb_: carols is the person hired by google to run the whole gsoc program (and possibly other things i don't know)
17:07.04gevaertsthebolt: second?
17:07.04haseeb_carol:oh..sorry please don't mind
17:07.04benstecarols: how many people already botherd you with "didn't get the package" directly ?
17:07.10carolsbenste: a few.
17:07.10theboltgevaerts: lh was the first
17:07.14gevaertsAh, right
17:07.20gevaertssecond in time :)
17:07.46benstecarols: did you get shipping numbers for each package ? :-)
17:07.56carolsbenste: yes.
17:08.02thebolthow's things going gevaerts ?
17:08.04haseeb_carols:will you be next year?
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17:08.22carolshaseeb_: i don't know. we don't even know if we'll run the program next year.
17:08.23gevaertsthebolt: three more days of work next week, and then ten days off :)
17:08.34haseeb_This time i have missed gsoc
17:08.41theboltgevaerts: sounds nice
17:08.57benstecarols: I already phoned the belgium post today asking whether they're again on strike or do have my package in their office, but they wanted this nr :-) - I'll wait for tuesday and see if the package arrives :-)
17:09.23carolsbenste: cool :-)
17:09.25theboltgevaerts: i have hm, 12 days of work, then i will have a few days off when my gf returns
17:10.12gevaertsthebolt: those days off include a rockbox developer conference hosted by our google-employee developer in London
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17:12.09theboltgevaerts: nice
17:12.13piyushmishra!logs
17:12.13gsocbotpiyushmishra: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
17:12.49theboltgevaerts: i've managed to get myself into a pretty troublesome spot work-wise.. totally opposite of the FOSS world.. i am alone engineer on a pretty complicated project, nobody to discuss with
17:12.57gevaertsouch
17:13.04gevaertsThat's no fun
17:13.24piyushmishraankit_frenz: not in the logs
17:13.38piyushmishrahaseeb_: she herds the cats ;)
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17:13.42haseeb_thebolt:i can help you...if you need
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17:13.49theboltnah, but i guess in the end it comes down to making decisions and go forward in the way i think it is best
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17:14.10thebolthaseeb_: heh, it is a commercial, closed, project (and biggest problems right now for me are mechanical engineering problems ;)
17:14.37ankit_frenzthebolt: does that mean you have to deal with bolts ? :P
17:14.51gevaertsankit_frenz: just the one :)
17:14.53haseeb_lol
17:15.14theboltankit_frenz: as few as possible ;)
17:15.27zfegoddamnit
17:15.33zfemy package has been delivered to my old
17:15.37zfeaddress..
17:15.51piyushmishrazfe: you changed it too late
17:15.51piyushmishra?
17:15.54ankit_frenzlol
17:16.02zfei changed it 10 days before it has been shipped
17:16.05benstezfe: at least you do know where it is :-)
17:16.19piyushmishrabenste: +1 same here
17:16.30ankit_frenzbenste: you are not only in that situation
17:16.31ankit_frenz:P
17:17.02haseeb_carols:ping
17:17.08carolshaseeb_: pong
17:17.25ankit_frenzping pong ping pong
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17:19.16haseeb_piyushmishra:
17:19.25bensterofl - just stay patient and wait for the next deliver - hey we're not doing it to earn money but to contribute in OpenSource !
17:19.32piyushmishrahaseeb_: (invisible pong)
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17:19.55haseeb_piyushmishra:hope you got your stuff
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17:20.30piyushmishrabenste: ;) carols would already be flooded with emails. I know India, so I'll wait for another 3-4 days before I start feeling worried :P
17:20.43piyushmishrahaseeb_: nope
17:21.06benstepiyushmishra: scroll up to see what she said :-)
17:21.21ankit_frenzpiyushmishra: And I know my location(extremly interior) so I will wait for another 6 days before getting worried phps? :P
17:21.22haseeb_piyushmishra:+1
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17:21.55piyushmishrabenste: I can't see it in logs :( and the only message I see is pong
17:22.23piyushmishrahaseeb_: huh?
17:22.29benstepiyushmishra: try
17:22.32benstehttp://irclogger.com/
17:22.46ankit_frenzpiyushmishra: -1 :P
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17:23.07haseeb_piyushmishra:see the lag...
17:23.31haseeb_slashdot
17:23.37slashdothi
17:23.51piyushmishrabenste: is there a #gsoc on that site?
17:24.09benstepiyushmishra: i thought they'd log every channel on freenode
17:24.16ankit_frenz!logs | piyushmishra
17:24.16gsocbotpiyushmishra: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
17:24.30ankit_frenzbut am not sure what benste is pointing to
17:24.57piyushmishraankit_frenz: OMG I didn't knw that...... try finding me 27th there
17:27.14ankit_frenzlol didnt see that coming
17:27.15ankit_frenz:P
17:28.25piyushmishraankit_frenz: :P lets take this to #gsoc-india
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18:27.01halinI get this error while registering the card: The Prefix of the Primary Phone number is invalid. Please re-enter.
18:27.07halinAny one knows what's the error
18:27.08halin?
18:27.27carolshalin: have you entered the phone number as 650-253-0000?
18:27.57halincarols: home phone or mobile phone ?
18:28.12carolshalin: whichever number its providing the error for.
18:28.14halincarols: home phone is: 1650253300
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18:28.27halinit came by default in the form
18:28.31carolshalin: the phone should be 1-650-253-0000
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18:29.47halincarols: still the same error
18:29.55halinthere are two text boxes
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18:30.02carolshalin: ok, then you'll need to contact customer service.
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18:31.43halincarols: By default the number was: 1-650-253-3000
18:31.53halinso the second 3 is redundant that means
18:32.13carolsok
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18:40.09piyushmishracarols: pm? its unrelated to GSoC, say yes only if you are free for some 5 mins
18:40.17carolspiyushmishra: sure
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