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| 07:56.38 | kanupatar | hello all |
| 07:56.53 | kanupatar | I just like to paricipate next year gsoc |
| 07:57.13 | kanupatar | can anyone give me when that will commenced on? |
| 07:57.45 | Ivanovic | it is not sure (since it is not announced yet) if there will be a gsoc next year |
| 07:57.55 | Ivanovic | but if there will be one it is likely to be announced some time in febuary |
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| 07:58.19 | Ivanovic | and some time in march the participating organizations are likely to be chosen (which is the times when students *have* to get active) |
| 07:58.58 | Ivanovic | if there is a gsoc next year, the timeline should be known some time in febuary |
| 07:59.11 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: ok ok |
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| 07:59.31 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: also why there is a chance of no gsoc next year/? |
| 07:59.34 | Ivanovic | kanupatar: though you can engage in open source right now |
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| 07:59.53 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: I have no idea |
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| 08:00.02 | Ivanovic | this won't hurt your chances to be accepted and projects tend to be welcoming people no matter if there is gsoc or not |
| 08:00.17 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: I am an embedded systme engineer with 4 years of experience in C |
| 08:00.37 | dhaun | kanupatar: there's a good chance, but Google doesn't pre-announce things. so until they say it happens, we won't know for sure :) |
| 08:00.55 | kanupatar | dhaun: ohh ok |
| 08:00.59 | Ivanovic | google is a commercial company and have to be able to afford this project, so of course it is possible that they stop it since they have no direct gain from it, so there might be some reason for them to stop it to save money |
| 08:01.16 | Ivanovic | in general: nothing is sure until announced |
| 08:01.30 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: yaa ofcourse |
| 08:01.49 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: but what about my scope?? |
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| 08:02.09 | Ivanovic | what should i say about this? |
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| 08:02.21 | Ivanovic | kanupatar: you should look around for this that you want to work on |
| 08:02.32 | Ivanovic | you will gain the experience required over time, this is normal |
| 08:02.41 | Ivanovic | just talk to some projects that do what you enjoy doing |
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| 08:09.57 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: but I am not a student |
| 08:10.16 | Ivanovic | if you are not a student you can't participate in gsoc |
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| 08:10.35 | Ivanovic | that is: unless you are a member of some open source project that participates |
| 08:10.41 | Ivanovic | then you can act as mentor for this project |
| 08:10.48 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: If I register for one part time Masters , wuld it allow?# |
| 08:11.05 | Ivanovic | no idea, check the faq for information about this |
| 08:11.48 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: i read the faq and i didn't find it..any contact person details i google who know this? |
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| 08:12.19 | Ivanovic | though you should keep in mind that gsoc is a full time job for several weeks in the summer |
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| 08:12.45 | Ivanovic | so even if you are eligible it might be a bad idea to try to get in if you have a normal job beside this |
| 08:14.40 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: but I am very much intersted..thats why not for cash or something |
| 08:15.06 | Ivanovic | kanupatar: if you are interested in working on open source software, just contact a project that you think is interesting |
| 08:15.28 | Ivanovic | kanupatar: there are many projects out there and they tend to have websites with contact info |
| 08:15.34 | Ivanovic | just make use of them |
| 08:15.36 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: but that would need to be approved by google and valuated by google too? |
| 08:15.41 | Ivanovic | ask how you can help / get started |
| 08:15.43 | Ivanovic | no |
| 08:15.56 | Ivanovic | working on open source software can be done without google knowing about it |
| 08:15.57 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 08:16.02 | kanupatar | Ivanovic:yes i know that |
| 08:16.26 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: i mean, the invocation of google is a great motivation right? |
| 08:16.44 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: i can invest that money to any opensource project |
| 08:16.44 | Ivanovic | you mean the money you can earn? |
| 08:17.04 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: actually i dont care about the money |
| 08:17.13 | Ivanovic | you do know that the *idea* behind gsoc is to allow students to earn some money in the summer break? |
| 08:17.28 | Ivanovic | earn some money by working on open source software instead of at the next burger joint |
| 08:18.11 | Ivanovic | if you don't care about the money and are not sure if you are elligible at all, why not just work *for fun* on some open source project? |
| 08:18.32 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: sorry if u misunderstood me |
| 08:19.08 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: i like to get some exposure from google by doing that |
| 08:19.21 | Ivanovic | what for? |
| 08:19.22 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: it may help me in future |
| 08:19.33 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: for getting a job in googke |
| 08:19.46 | Ivanovic | google does *NOTHING* additional here beside funding the thing and providing the "interface" |
| 08:20.08 | Ivanovic | for getting a job at google normal involvement of your own in a project is as beneficial |
| 08:20.15 | Ivanovic | no need to wait for gsoc to start and anything |
| 08:20.46 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: i mean , i can get more preference if i get some experinence in google |
| 08:21.04 | Ivanovic | but you don't get *ANY* experience in working with google during gsoc |
| 08:21.06 | dhaun | kanupatar: it even says in the FAQ somewhere that GSoC is not about recruiting for Google (although it could help you find a job elsewhere, since it looks good on youc CV :) |
| 08:21.34 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: yes i read |
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| 08:22.03 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: but anyway , i decided to complete next year ..if i need to drop my my job for studies , i will do |
| 08:22.15 | kanupatar | *compete |
| 08:23.18 | Ivanovic | you obviously don't understand how gsoc is working and what you can expect from it if you want to drop your existing job for it |
| 08:23.54 | Ivanovic | it is probably as good for your CV to just work with some open source project and list this |
| 08:25.40 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: hey man, I am very much intersted i told u earlier itself...it is just for my CV ..u just think like that only |
| 08:26.11 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: can i get any contact info of any google employee who handle this? |
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| 08:28.45 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: also , please help me in finding one pen source embedded project for my next year gsoc? |
| 08:28.52 | Marchael | may be first you should done gsoc and then add your project to CV :) |
| 08:29.20 | kanupatar | Marchael: yes ofcourse man...i need to start its activities soon |
| 08:29.28 | dhaun | kanupatar: GSoC is about finding new contributors for open source projects and about giving students something useful to do during their summer break (instead of flipping burgers). Everything else are just nice side effects. If you're only looking at it to improve you're CV, you're coming at it from an entirely wrong angle |
| 08:30.23 | zfe | in our CVs |
| 08:30.30 | zfe | should we refer to Google as our employer |
| 08:30.32 | zfe | for the GSOC? |
| 08:30.37 | zfe | or it is a bit dishonest? |
| 08:30.45 | kanupatar | dhaun: hey man, i just compete in the code and like to get it...that is one of my ambition..can't u hurt it? |
| 08:31.32 | brik | zfe: you're a google contractor afaik |
| 08:31.45 | brik | could put down "Google Contractor (Google Summer Of Code)" |
| 08:31.47 | zfe | so writing "google inc." as employer |
| 08:31.52 | zfe | is fine? |
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| 08:32.13 | zfe | you understand that it looks much cooler than "random free software organization/software" |
| 08:32.16 | thebolt | zfe: no, you are not employeed |
| 08:32.21 | jrabbit | maybe, just don't imply you're a googler |
| 08:32.24 | thebolt | -e |
| 08:32.39 | thebolt | but it should be in faq/mailinglist since before |
| 08:32.44 | jrabbit | zfe: write it as if it were a paid internship. |
| 08:32.47 | dhaun | zfe: I think there's an officially sanctioned phrase for this but can't remember it right now - maybe ask on the student list? |
| 08:32.57 | zfe | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.02 | zfe | got your point guys |
| 08:33.03 | zfe | thanks |
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| 08:35.28 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: hello bussy ? |
| 08:35.34 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: buddy |
| 08:35.57 | Ivanovic | kanupatar: i am in a state where i see no reason for further discussion |
| 08:36.14 | Ivanovic | since we both don't seem to understand what the other says/asks |
| 08:36.40 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: I am erfectly understood your points |
| 08:36.54 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: but hardly i like to particpate ..i dont knwo why |
| 08:37.09 | Ivanovic | and for participating in gsos you'd have to wait more than 9 month before you can submit your applications anyway |
| 08:37.17 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: When I gone thru the faq i really liked it. |
| 08:37.19 | Ivanovic | the coding time would just start in a little less than a *year* from now |
| 08:37.36 | Ivanovic | why not just do some open source stuff *now*? |
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| 08:37.51 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: can you help me? Also i an help you for your works |
| 08:37.56 | Ivanovic | and around febuary you can come back for gsoc stuff |
| 08:38.36 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: okay.. |
| 08:38.47 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: can u have some guidance? |
| 08:39.04 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: also i can contribute to any opensource project from my filed |
| 08:39.13 | Ivanovic | my recommendation to you is to look for some open source project that interests you |
| 08:39.36 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: I like to work on embedded C and intersted in that |
| 08:39.47 | Ivanovic | just look at the things you use regulary and check which of those is open source and where some rough edges are |
| 08:40.05 | Ivanovic | then search for things like "embedded c open source" or something like this |
| 08:40.05 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: you have some inputs as a first step? |
| 08:40.14 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: okay |
| 08:40.23 | Ivanovic | yes: use some search engine to find projects in your area |
| 08:41.10 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: ok fine |
| 08:41.26 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: also can i get any google conatct point for the part time enquiry? |
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| 08:42.28 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: hello |
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| 08:43.22 | Ivanovic | http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#no_faq |
| 08:46.05 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: thanks ..that was really useful.. |
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| 09:00.02 | kanupatar | Ivanovic: do u need any help for any opensource projects? |
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| 14:30.10 | kai | now that was a wasted day |
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| 14:53.10 | Nightrose | kai: scorche: book poke? :) |
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| 17:33.46 | vikash | carols, Hi |
| 17:33.52 | carols | vikash: hi |
| 17:34.04 | vikash | can I /query you for some time |
| 17:34.37 | carols | sure |
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| 17:49.49 | redheadphones | carols, i'd just like to say thanks for all the work you've put in on gsoc. it's a stupendous idea, and it deserves recognition. that goes for everyone else organizing it too. |
| 17:50.11 | carols | redheadphones: you're quite welcome. i'm happy to hear you think so :-) |
| 17:50.44 | redheadphones | it's a great opportunity for *real* experience, so i'm grateful |
| 17:51.11 | DarthGandalf | Hi |
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| 20:14.36 | carols | serves tea and cookies |
| 20:15.00 | Catfish_Man | sips tea and munches a cookie |
| 20:15.03 | Catfish_Man | hi carols :) |
| 20:15.14 | carols | hey Catfish_Man :-) |
| 20:15.16 | carols | how's it going? |
| 20:15.46 | Catfish_Man | Stressing like crazy. :/ |
| 20:16.05 | Catfish_Man | I have enough time and energy to work on my wwdc presentation OR my bugs, but I need to do both |
| 20:17.13 | carols | oh! i have a great picture to show you |
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| 20:17.51 | carols | WWDC is loading, please wait: http://twitpic.com/55o10q |
| 20:18.02 | Catfish_Man | haha nice |
| 20:18.11 | carols | sorry you're stressing though :-( |
| 20:18.13 | carols | that's no good |
| 20:18.22 | carols | what you going to be talking about? |
| 20:19.46 | Catfish_Man | one part of the new "Resume" feature in Lion |
| 20:20.01 | carols | ah, that sounds cool :-) |
| 20:20.37 | Catfish_Man | hopefully :) this is my first time presenting, so I'm pretty nervous |
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| 20:22.55 | carols | i wish you luck! im sure you'll do great :-) |
| 20:23.29 | Catfish_Man | thanks |
| 20:23.31 | Catfish_Man | how've you been? |
| 20:24.09 | carols | good. just crazy busy with gsoc this year. seems like its either busier than last year or i just blocked out the craziness last year from my brain :-P |
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| 20:38.56 | mlankhorst | carols: always was the case |
| 20:39.08 | carols | mlankhorst: yeah, i think i just have selective memory about last year. |
| 20:39.13 | mlankhorst | I suggest buying stress balls in bulk :) |
| 20:39.22 | carols | thanks for the suggestion :-) |
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| 20:39.24 | mlankhorst | like a whole monster truck to your door |
| 20:39.25 | carols | heads to amazon |
| 20:39.29 | carols | good idea |
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| 20:45.06 | vegard | how many people at google are in charge of gsoc? |
| 20:45.28 | carols | vegard: just me |
| 20:45.41 | carols | i have two coworkers who help out on special request occasionally |
| 20:45.47 | Catfish_Man | g'day lh :) |
| 20:45.49 | vegard | that's amazing. you are doing a good job :) |
| 20:45.58 | carols | vegard: thank you for saying so :-) |
| 20:46.22 | lh | Catfish_Man: hello dear |
| 20:46.49 | carols | hey lh :-) hope you're doing well on this fine thursday. |
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| 20:50.30 | lh | carols: i am doing very well my dear, hope you are also. |
| 20:51.05 | carols | lh: i am, thank you :-) the weather's beautiful here today. hope it is in your neck of the woods as well. |
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| 20:51.35 | haseeb_ | Hi carols |
| 20:51.39 | carols | hi haseeb_ |
| 20:51.55 | lh | carols: actually, overcast and cranky pants. apparently oregon is a month behind in terms of seasonal weather conditions. i am hoping my tomatoes do not rebel and attempt to migrate to sunnier climes. |
| 20:52.26 | carols | lh: aw, i'm sorry to hear that :-( i hope your tomatoes stay put as well :-) |
| 20:52.57 | Catfish_Man | joke's on them if they come down here |
| 20:53.01 | lh | carols: no worries. i like it overcast. i will attempt to maintain a diplomatic dialogue with the garden's citizens so they feel invested in sticking around |
| 20:53.04 | lh | Catfish_Man: excellent point |
| 20:53.11 | carols | lh: awesome plan. |
| 20:54.40 | Catfish_Man | attempts to come up with a joke about communicating with garden stakeholders |
| 20:54.54 | carols | ooh |
| 20:55.02 | carols | that was bad, Catfish_Man. :-P |
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| 20:55.43 | Catfish_Man | grins |
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| 21:41.54 | kblin | sighs |
| 21:42.27 | carols | what's got you sighing, kblin? |
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| 21:42.49 | gevaerts | on the other hand looks forward to tomorrow :) |
| 21:46.49 | scorche|sh | agrees |
| 21:47.22 | gevaerts | scorche|sh: oh? What are you doing tomorrow? :) |
| 21:52.09 | scorche|sh | gevaerts: hrm - i am trying to come up with a witty response to that, but am failing miserably |
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| 21:52.30 | gevaerts | scorche|sh: we'll try to find one tomorrow |
| 21:52.38 | scorche|sh | ok =) |
| 21:56.03 | kblin | carols: so many really bad performances of a play I'm looking for on youtube |
| 21:56.15 | carols | kblin: which play? |
| 21:57.17 | gevaerts | kblin: see if you can do better! ;) |
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| 22:39.24 | kblin | carols: agatha christie's "and then there were none" |
| 22:39.32 | carols | kblin: ah, good play :-) |
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