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| 09:39.45 | rafl | there's no way for an org admin to turn another org admin into a regular mentor on melange, is there? |
| 09:40.00 | rafl | that, or a possibility for the org admin itself to give up his position, that is |
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| 09:43.04 | MatthewWilkes | rafl: There is a resign button, but i think that removes you completely |
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| 09:45.02 | rafl | nods |
| 09:45.27 | rafl | so where am i supposed to ask for getting my org's permissions mangled? the mentors list? the melange folks? |
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| 09:47.47 | Ivanovic | rafl: the question is: is this really required? |
| 09:48.14 | Ivanovic | rafl: can't you just talk inside your org asking the "should no longer be admin" to not make use of his priviledges and just act as normal mentor? |
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| 09:48.21 | rafl | in the early days of this year's soc i've added two backup admins in order to not be a SPOF |
| 09:48.31 | rafl | however, those backup admins now turned out to be mentoring |
| 09:48.38 | Ivanovic | and? |
| 09:48.43 | Ivanovic | this is *perfectly* valid |
| 09:48.49 | rafl | and i'd like to give a students a way to decide on their own which part of their mentor evals their mentors may read |
| 09:48.56 | Ivanovic | there is no rule that says "admins can't be mentors, too!" |
| 09:49.11 | rafl | right. but there's that hardcoded rule of all admins being able to read all mentor and student evals |
| 09:49.30 | Ivanovic | yes, able to, but not necessarily doing so |
| 09:49.39 | Ivanovic | just ask your mentors not to read the private eval parts |
| 09:49.41 | MatthewWilkes | and what's the problem if they can? |
| 09:49.54 | Ivanovic | sorry, but *all* the stuff submitted there is feedback |
| 09:50.03 | Ivanovic | and especially negative feedback should be known and taken into account |
| 09:50.17 | Ivanovic | in fact it would suck if the admins mentoring would *NOT* know the feedback they get |
| 09:51.05 | rafl | all i'd like to do is to give the students freedom of choice about what to discuss with their mentors directly and what they prefer to discuss through the org admins, and not having them be in doubt and possibly holding back because of that. |
| 09:51.31 | Ivanovic | in general those evaluations are not meant to be "private", since if they were "private", noone would be able to read them, which would just fail the aim of providing feedback |
| 09:52.03 | rafl | right. and i'll encourage students to actually share their evals, or bits of it, with their mentors. still i don't want to basically force them to do so |
| 09:52.08 | Ivanovic | if they have anything to discuss in private with an org admin, they should *directly* ping the admin and not wait for some magic eval time |
| 09:52.57 | Ivanovic | especially if there are some problems that have to be solved beside some general advice which parts in general to do better in future and where to provide better/more information |
| 09:53.09 | rafl | i hear you, and i still don't fully agree |
| 09:53.30 | rafl | i'd like to be able to use what i think of as a melange feature, and am merely asking about who to contact to be able to do just that |
| 09:54.30 | Ivanovic | you could try to ask this on the mentor list, but i don't know if this is really possible (easily) |
| 09:55.06 | MatthewWilkes | rafl: Tell them they can discuss anything and fire any mentor that would prevent that. |
| 09:55.23 | rafl | mentors list it is |
| 09:55.34 | rafl | both the directions and your thoughts are appreciated. many thanks |
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| 11:11.05 | vperic_ | Second try: Someone from the Czech Republic here? |
| 11:11.11 | Kulik | vperic_: yeah |
| 11:11.18 | kai | !anyone | vperic_ |
| 11:11.18 | gsocbot | vperic_: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 11:11.31 | kai | :) |
| 11:12.07 | vperic_ | kai: It's a country, not an organization. :P (and no, #gsoc-cz didn't help) |
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| 11:15.11 | kai | vperic_: extrapolate or fix the help text? :) |
| 11:15.59 | ojwb | it's probably a fair point that there may well not be a forum where czech gsocers explicitly hang out together |
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| 11:16.48 | kai | true, but I don't get to use that factoid alot while gsoc is running :) |
| 11:17.46 | ojwb | it's true, once students are accepted, most have worked out how to contact their org |
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| 11:22.02 | vperic_ | Maybe I'm confused a tad, but I don't see how anything in the factoid is related to my question. There is no organization unifying all czech students, and you cannot search melange by student country, so... <shrug> |
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| 11:23.11 | kai | I was mostly joking. the the insane amounts of smilies I used |
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| 15:07.21 | Marchael | Is someone here been hacked? |
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| 15:09.43 | MatthewWilkes | Marchael: What? |
| 15:10.05 | Marchael | I mean city accounts |
| 15:15.05 | ojwb | someone earlier seemed to have been |
| 15:15.52 | ojwb | Marchael: if you think you might have been, talk to citibank's customer support |
| 15:16.00 | ojwb | that was what carols said earlier |
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| 15:26.36 | bloodybeet | Any official word about the credit cards hack? Accounts that doesn't seem to be affected, can they still be and should we still try to get the money off as soon as possible or what? :O |
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| 15:29.21 | merwok | O hai |
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| 15:52.39 | shadeslayer | bloodybeet: i'm wondering the same thing |
| 15:56.09 | vperic_ | shadeslayer, bloodybeet: Just get the money off ASAP anyway. It's the recommended course of action, hack or no hack. |
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| 16:24.51 | bloodybeet | vperic_: went to my bank today, they didn't have a clue how to get it off |
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| 16:25.33 | bloodybeet | since the atm doesn't show a balance, everything has to be converted into euros and you wouldn't know how much bills u can ask |
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| 16:26.38 | vperic_ | bloodybeet: Well, guess. :) |
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| 19:17.08 | akashm1990 | has anyone tried using the payment cards on steam? is there any sort of fee involved if used on steam? (payment in USD) |
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| 19:18.09 | Kulik | akashm1990: I wouldn't expect any fees involved, I used it to pay in Europe and it says $0 fees in the prepaid citi account |
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