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| 11:02.51 | neXyon | hi |
| 11:03.46 | neXyon | guys, what are you spending your GSoC money on? I wondered if I get more out of the money if I buy hardware in the US and let it ship to europe instead of buying here with all the fees |
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| 11:08.00 | ThomasWaldmann | neXyon: it depends. i like to buy jeans in the US, because they are much cheaper there than in germany. :D |
| 11:08.54 | ThomasWaldmann | in general, you have to consider that prices in the US are usually plus tax, while prices elsewhere (e.g. in germany) include tax. |
| 11:09.00 | Marchael | want to buy electric guitar in USA but there is no shipping to my location :( |
| 11:09.46 | ThomasWaldmann | also, if there is a chance that you need warranty, you might have to ship stuff back to the US and that can be expensive, check the warranty terms. |
| 11:12.19 | ThomasWaldmann | Marchael: some companies (like Lenovo US) do not even ship to germany. |
| 11:13.33 | Marchael | ThomasWaldmann: I mean what I see some intresting lots on ebay, but salers have no shipping to Russia |
| 11:13.38 | baer | and don't forget that you have to pay import tax if you import stuff to the european union |
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| 11:19.21 | ThomasWaldmann | baer: yeah, for computer stuff same tax as bought locally (in germany). for other stuff, there might be additional customs. |
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| 11:21.05 | ThomasWaldmann | so, if you after all save just 10%, it might not be worth the risk/troubles |
| 11:22.10 | ThomasWaldmann | another thing is if you are visiting the US and if the stuff you buy is below the maximum amount you can import without paying tax/customs, that might be interesting. |
| 11:24.52 | ThomasWaldmann | for airtravel back to germany, this is 430 EUR currently - not too bad in USD. |
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| 11:35.59 | neXyon | ThomasWaldmann and others: thanks for the infos :D |
| 11:36.26 | neXyon | it would be awesome if there were european shops accepting payments in $ :D |
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| 12:09.16 | neverpanic | neXyon: see if you can find american forces barracks |
| 12:09.47 | neverpanic | there's a couple in germany (and you also can't just walk right in), but you can buy there using US $ |
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| 15:54.56 | carols | serves tea and coffee |
| 15:55.39 | roccivic | carols: oh, how nice |
| 15:55.43 | roccivic | thanks :) |
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| 16:01.13 | thebolt | hi carols, how are you doing? |
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| 16:06.16 | carols | hey thebolt |
| 16:06.24 | carols | im good, hanging out at oscon waiting to get a hoodie :-) |
| 16:09.50 | thebolt | ciik |
| 16:09.53 | thebolt | cool* |
| 16:11.40 | roccivic | there's a live stream from oscon: http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011 |
| 16:11.43 | roccivic | :D |
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| 16:27.34 | dberkholz | carols: hey, i filled out the summit spreadsheet with gentoo as my org but i'm actually going in an x.org slot. will that create any problems for you? |
| 16:28.04 | carols | dberkholz: is this a third-mentor-from-gci case, or just a i-mentor-for-two-orgs thing? |
| 16:28.25 | dberkholz | carols: admin for 2 orgs. just wanted my nametag to say gentoo first =) |
| 16:28.42 | carols | dberkholz: then no, that's fine. that's no problem |
| 16:30.52 | carols | glad you'll be there, dberkholz :-) |
| 16:31.18 | carols | looking forward to seeing all of you there :-) |
| 16:31.18 | carols | my favorite time of year, really |
| 16:31.42 | dberkholz | carols: yeah, i think it's important that an admin be there, so till i can convince one of the others to be more active, i'll probably keep coming |
| 16:32.04 | beng-nl | carols: ME TOO! (favourite time of the year) |
| 16:32.07 | thebolt | this is the time of year i mostly dislike not being in gsoc anymore.. |
| 16:32.10 | carols | dberkholz: do you have trouble convincing people to come? |
| 16:32.16 | carols | beng-nl: aw, it'll be good to see you :-) |
| 16:32.17 | thebolt | really miss going to mentor summit.. |
| 16:32.18 | beng-nl | i love the summit like nothing else :) |
| 16:32.23 | dberkholz | carols: not at all. if anything, i get people complaining about my selection process. |
| 16:32.27 | carols | thebolt: aw, we miss you too. |
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| 16:32.35 | carols | dberkholz: yeah? what criteria do you use? |
| 16:32.53 | thebolt | otoh, got my fair share of intercontinental travel this year.. second trip taiwan->sweden this year.. |
| 16:32.54 | dberkholz | carols: 1 slot to an admin (unless he/she can slip in with another org like x.org in my case or OSL in some others) |
| 16:33.18 | dberkholz | carols: the other 1-2 slots (and waitlist spots) are for new attendees first, previous attendees if not enough new ones ask |
| 16:33.36 | carols | dberkholz: i think that sounds fair. they still don't like it? :-) |
| 16:34.01 | dberkholz | apparently some people want a random lottery. i prefer to select based on people who show enough initiative and enthusiasm to come ask me about how they can go |
| 16:35.08 | carols | dberkholz: i agree. you can tell them i agreed :-P |
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| 16:35.18 | carols | (with you, that is) |
| 16:35.30 | dberkholz | haha, will do |
| 16:35.58 | dberkholz | is wild palms already full? |
| 16:36.22 | dberkholz | ah, nm. just got a mentor with issues. |
| 16:36.42 | carols | dberkholz: i certainly hope the wild palms isnt already full. that would be sad. |
| 16:37.07 | dberkholz | the domain is a pretty sweet hotel, i stayed there once. |
| 16:37.40 | carols | dberkholz: yeah, don't tell anyone, but i actually prefer it to the wild palms. |
| 16:37.46 | thebolt | i stayed at both on different summits, both are ok |
| 16:38.00 | thebolt | but it has been wild palms that was the center of "after hours social activities".. |
| 16:38.06 | zgreg | is sad that there is no student meetup or the like in my area/country |
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| 16:52.34 | koda | It the 2k$ budget for the conference for both participants or for each of them |
| 16:52.40 | koda | ? |
| 16:52.54 | dberkholz | total |
| 16:53.16 | dberkholz | everyone would be flying first class if it were per-person |
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| 16:53.34 | thiago | 2k isn't enough for first-class |
| 16:53.39 | koda | Well not unless you are overseas |
| 16:54.13 | thiago | paid 2k for a premium economy on his last flight |
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| 16:57.19 | dberkholz | i could almost get 2 first-class tickets from where i live for 2k |
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| 16:59.22 | thebolt | from where i am now $1k is pushing it for a economy ticket.. |
| 17:05.22 | koda | Another question about the stickers we are supposed to bring |
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| 17:05.37 | koda | Are they for trading or for selling/support? |
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| 17:29.13 | sfb | koda: Trading. Giving away swag. |
| 17:29.52 | koda | Ah that's what I figured too :) |
| 17:30.18 | sfb | At the entrance to the building they usually set up a table with give-aways. Stickers, pens, etc. |
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