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| 13:51.01 | Ivanovic | hmmm, CDG with air france or LHR with british airways, which of those two is less "bad"? |
| 13:51.32 | c00w | British Airways lost all my luggage. Both ways. |
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| 13:51.40 | c00w | Never got it back. |
| 13:53.20 | kai | everyone I know keeps missing their connections in CDG |
| 13:53.52 | Ivanovic | LHR is known as black hole for baggage while CDG is problematic with connections, lovely... |
| 13:55.42 | Ivanovic | okay, one difference seems to be that the machine from air france can be a 777 while it will be a 747 with BA |
| 13:56.54 | kai | personally I never lost luggage in LHR so far |
| 13:57.40 | kai | can you fly iceland air via keflavik? |
| 13:58.00 | Ivanovic | wow, with air france there is evan a connection back via atlanta with only 9h in between the flights... |
| 13:58.11 | roccivic | iceland? sure way to get stuck with the volcano... |
| 13:58.47 | kai | Ivanovic: last time I had to deal with immigration in ATL, it took me about three hours to get through there, and then they canceled my SFO connection |
| 13:59.07 | kai | but there's lots of restaurants/cafes with free wifi |
| 13:59.08 | Ivanovic | kai: this would only be on the flight back to germany |
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| 13:59.23 | Ivanovic | on the flight in the US it would be CDG |
| 13:59.23 | kai | ah, not too bad then I guess |
| 13:59.35 | Ivanovic | still, its lots of time for just waiting... |
| 13:59.35 | kai | ok, apart from the CDG part :) |
| 14:00.13 | kai | just on my personal experience, I'd prefer LHR to CDG.. and I'd take AMS over either |
| 14:00.14 | Ivanovic | have you already booked your trip for the mentor summit? |
| 14:00.17 | kai | nope |
| 14:00.34 | Ivanovic | yeah, the prices just significantly increased for AMS |
| 14:00.58 | Ivanovic | sadly most comanies for booking require the passport right at booking which i don't have yet |
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| 16:51.11 | dberkholz | kai: i usually look for one of the frequent-flyer clubs and camp right outside, close enough to catch their wifi |
| 16:53.57 | thiago | if you know their password |
| 16:54.10 | dberkholz | every one i've tried has been wide open |
| 16:54.32 | dberkholz | they don't want to make things difficult for their best customers =P |
| 16:54.42 | thiago | the only one I've seen wide open was the KLM Crown Lounge |
| 16:55.13 | thiago | it wasn't on the United lounge, Lufthansa's isn't even free, Air France may be open |
| 16:55.30 | thiago | yesterday, it was a password wifi, but I guess it doesn't change often |
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| 17:55.30 | carols | serves some cookies |
| 17:56.18 | thiago | thanks :-) |
| 17:56.22 | thiago | now I need to get actual cookies... |
| 17:57.01 | Ivanovic | carols: the book is from naomi novik |
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| 17:57.14 | carols | Ivanovic: great, thank you. ill definitely look into that |
| 17:57.32 | Ivanovic | (that is: it is a complete series) |
| 17:57.39 | chrisoelmueller | can also recommend them by the way, well-written :-) |
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| 17:59.19 | carols | cool, thank you Ivanovic and chrisoelmueller :-) |
| 17:59.28 | carols | goes to download |
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| 18:01.51 | dberkholz | is that another dragon series? |
| 18:01.55 | dberkholz | i'm really tired of those. |
| 18:02.17 | dberkholz | there's not many new ways to write a dragon story that i've seen recently |
| 18:02.55 | dberkholz | if you just took the current offering of fantasy books and subtracted everything involving dragons or vampires, i'd be a lot happier |
| 18:03.33 | carols | i've never been a big fantasy person, so all this dragon stuff is new to me :-) |
| 18:03.49 | dberkholz | if you like dragons, you need to read the pern series by anne mccaffrey |
| 18:04.19 | Catfish_Man | dberkholz: well... the white dragon, and the ones about menolly anyway |
| 18:04.23 | Catfish_Man | some of the others weren't as good |
| 18:04.49 | carols | i don't know if i do or not yet. i've heard of that series, but i haven't finished the george r.r. martin series yet, so i'm still being selective about what is next |
| 18:05.01 | dberkholz | sword of truth. amazing. |
| 18:05.25 | Catfish_Man | which series are we talking about anyway? |
| 18:05.26 | dberkholz | are you on one of those book sites like shelfari, goodreads, etc? |
| 18:05.56 | dberkholz | Catfish_Man: terry goodkind, sword of truth. they made it into a somewhat OK tv series |
| 18:06.15 | Catfish_Man | dberkholz: no, I know that. I meant the earlier discussion |
| 18:06.19 | Ivanovic | dberkholz: dragons as part of the armies while in the napoleon wars is different |
| 18:07.25 | dberkholz | carols: if you're looking for ideas, here's my favorites: http://www.shelfari.com/dberkholz/lists/Top |
| 18:07.52 | carols | dberkholz: great, thank you :-) |
| 18:08.03 | carols | goes to take a look |
| 18:08.07 | dberkholz | totally random mix of books, though, you'll have to pick the styles you like |
| 18:08.09 | Ivanovic | dberkholz: regarding stuff without dragons: have you read stuff from green? |
| 18:08.25 | dberkholz | simon r green, the nightside stuff? |
| 18:08.34 | Ivanovic | eg "the adventures of hawk and fisher" |
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| 18:08.39 | Ivanovic | yeah, simon r green |
| 18:08.54 | dberkholz | oh yeah, i remember that series. it was pretty good |
| 18:09.07 | dberkholz | i enjoyed his deathstalker series a lot more though |
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| 18:09.46 | Ivanovic | hawk&fisher were somehow different because the heroes were 100% practical |
| 18:09.48 | dberkholz | carols: also, raymond e feist, the magician series. top-notch stuff |
| 18:10.04 | dberkholz | him and goodkind are probably my top picks for fantasy |
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| 18:10.59 | Ivanovic | and regarding urban fantasy stuff "the elemental assassin"-series from estep is nice, too |
| 18:11.14 | dberkholz | agreed |
| 18:11.19 | carols | dberkholz: ooohh i like magicians :-) |
| 18:11.23 | carols | loves magic |
| 18:11.23 | dberkholz | but then again, i love assassin books |
| 18:11.40 | Catfish_Man | carols: 'A Wizard of Earthsea' if you haven't read it |
| 18:11.43 | dberkholz | i honestly have a hard time finding one i haven't read these days |
| 18:11.45 | carols | dberkholz: one of my favorite books is The Prestige |
| 18:11.46 | Catfish_Man | carols: also Sabriel |
| 18:12.00 | carols | Catfish_Man: awesome, thank you. haven't read any of those |
| 18:15.59 | Ivanovic | carols: in case you want to read some dark fantasy: the black jewels series by anne bishop |
| 18:16.18 | carols | Ivanovic: what do you mean by "dark"? :-) |
| 18:16.28 | Ivanovic | hmm, what do i mean |
| 18:16.30 | Catfish_Man | black jewels is such a massive mindfuck |
| 18:16.37 | Catfish_Man | makes me feel all weird after reading it for a while |
| 18:16.39 | Ivanovic | the world is ruled by women who suppress men |
| 18:16.49 | Ivanovic | many are basically kept like slaves |
| 18:17.18 | Ivanovic | violence, rape and stuff like this are explicitly mentioned |
| 18:17.22 | carols | Ivanovic: i'm one of those feminists who has a radical notion that if you wanted to be treated as equals you have to treat people as equals, so this may not be in line with my tastes :-) |
| 18:17.47 | Catfish_Man | black jewels definitely isn't feminist propaganda. It is intense as heck though |
| 18:17.56 | Ivanovic | though the most powerful people in those books are male |
| 18:17.59 | jrabbit | tries to ignore reddit |
| 18:18.07 | carols | fair enough, i will look into them then :-) |
| 18:18.08 | Ivanovic | eg on is called "saetan, high lord of hell" |
| 18:18.09 | Catfish_Man | Ivanovic: well... barring one :P |
| 18:18.16 | Ivanovic | Catfish_Man: jepp |
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| 18:19.04 | Ivanovic | carols: those books are clearly something different from what is usual fantasy stuff |
| 18:19.16 | Ivanovic | but well written and in parts *really* funny |
| 18:19.35 | carols | alright then, i'll give it a shot |
| 18:20.05 | dberkholz | sounds like basically the old gor stuff in reverse. |
| 18:21.16 | Ivanovic | just imagine this combination: you have the most powerful single being of this world which is the high lord of hell, about 10,000 years old and there is a small, 10 year old girl which, uhm, is more powerful... |
| 18:21.37 | Ivanovic | s/being/humanoid being |
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| 18:23.30 | Catfish_Man | I'm winning at refactoring so far :D |
| 18:24.16 | jrabbit | Catfish_Man: haha |
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| 23:12.12 | elijah | When is GSoC ending? |
| 23:12.34 | elijah | Nvm, found it |
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| 23:18.35 | gsocbot | neverpanic: "next" is midterm evals time is over, on towards pencils down on August 22 19:00 UTC |
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| 23:24.49 | elijah | thanks |
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