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14:39.39 | mayanks43 | anyone knows of a language other than C that has support for inline asm? |
14:39.51 | thiago | C++ |
14:40.08 | thiago | technically speaking, neither C nor C++ have support for it |
14:40.15 | thiago | asm support is always a compiler extension |
14:41.07 | mayanks43 | ok |
14:41.31 | mayanks43 | I was wondering why aren't OSes written in any other language than C |
14:41.51 | mayanks43 | or I am ignorant |
14:42.15 | kblin | because getting close to the hardware means you'll always need to write code that looks like ASM |
14:42.44 | kblin | C is nothing but a fancy way to write ASM code in a slightly abstracted way |
14:42.57 | thiago | though another reason for writing in C is legacy |
14:43.02 | thiago | C was designed to write OSes with |
14:43.08 | thiago | some OSes were written with C |
14:43.53 | mayanks43 | so can we have OSes in java or python? |
14:44.46 | thiago | technically speaking, nothing prevents that |
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14:44.56 | thiago | in practical terms, it's highly unlikely you'll ever find them |
14:45.15 | thiago | OSes in non-native languages |
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14:53.37 | neverpanic | There's some esoteric ones, and some used for research |
14:54.42 | mayanks43 | any examples? |
14:57.14 | mayanks43 | ok there's a Lisp machine |
14:57.36 | neverpanic | AUTOSAR might qualify. That's Java-based IIRC. |
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14:58.51 | neverpanic | Or KESO http://www4.cs.fau.de/Research/KESO/, but that's research-only I think |
14:59.18 | mayanks43 | nice! |
14:59.52 | neverpanic | Oh, and than there's JX (which apparently is abandonned by now): http://www4/Projects/JX/ |
15:00.07 | neverpanic | http://www4.cs.fau.de/Projects/JX/ that is, sorry, my resolv.conf contains cs.fau.de |
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15:02.02 | neverpanic | If you need more I guess you can ask more operating systems groups at other universities |
15:02.26 | mayanks43 | ok |
15:04.19 | mayanks43 | I was thinking of an OS project in python |
15:04.27 | mayanks43 | just wanted to check out feasibility |
15:05.50 | thiago | feasible, but impractical |
15:06.05 | thiago | you need a python interpreter running or you need a python-to-native compiler |
15:06.41 | mayanks43 | native as in ASM and all? |
15:06.47 | thiago | no |
15:06.55 | thiago | native as in "doesn't require a python interpreter" |
15:07.03 | mayanks43 | oh |
15:09.40 | neverpanic | native as in CPU instructions |
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