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| 08:30.31 | Laie | if someone is 19 years old and still a high school student, can that one attend to this? :) |
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| 08:33.04 | weltall | http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#who |
| 08:34.20 | Laie | weltall, sry xD.. |
| 08:34.55 | weltall | it seems you need to be in an university or equivalent institution |
| 08:35.14 | gevaerts | Laie: gsoc or gci? |
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| 08:35.27 | Laie | google code in< |
| 08:35.32 | weltall | ah code in |
| 08:36.15 | gevaerts | I'd say http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2011/faq#eligibility is pretty clear |
| 08:36.37 | Laie | thank you for that |
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| 09:35.11 | kai | hm, the WTF/minute of this code is too high |
| 09:38.20 | MatzeWilkes | kai: Want to swap tasks for the morning? I'm waiting for my Hausverwaltung to call me to explain why they changed the lock on my flat |
| 09:39.31 | thebolt | MatzeWilkes: without you having any new keys i presume? |
| 09:40.20 | MatzeWilkes | yup |
| 09:40.26 | thebolt | sounds.. bad :P |
| 09:40.49 | MatzeWilkes | I'm trying to stay dispassionate |
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| 09:42.24 | MatzeWilkes | zomg |
| 09:42.29 | MatzeWilkes | so unexpected |
| 09:42.39 | MatzeWilkes | i was broken into |
| 09:44.59 | MatzeWilkes | well, they think I was, as they tried in other flats in my building and my window was left open |
| 10:06.17 | kai | thebolt: hey there |
| 10:06.34 | thebolt | hi kai, been a while. .how's it going? |
| 10:07.28 | kai | busy, working with some really nasty piece of code :) |
| 10:08.22 | kai | trying to get the test coverage up |
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| 10:09.07 | kai | but there's lots of code with hardcoded file system interaction, so I'm spending a lot of time faking up sys.open and fake input files |
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| 13:56.51 | QingPei1 | hi all |
| 13:58.17 | QingPei1 | Is there anyone who also looking for a shuttle from SFO to WildParm? |
| 14:01.34 | MatthewWilkes | QingPei1: There were lots of messages on the mailing list |
| 14:01.40 | MatthewWilkes | depends when you're going, really |
| 14:02.22 | QingPei1 | MatthewWilkes: hi, I will arrive at 2:35PM 21th,Oct. |
| 14:03.26 | kai | QingPei1: there's a wiki page for this |
| 14:03.36 | kai | MatthewWilkes: so, got a key already? |
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| 14:04.06 | QingPei1 | I just want to know if there is any confirm about these things, like who i will contact with about the same shuttle |
| 14:04.27 | QingPei1 | kai: i have already post my message to the wiki page |
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| 14:08.34 | MatthewWilkes | kai: yup |
| 14:08.40 | MatthewWilkes | went to speak to the Rechtsanwalt |
| 14:09.04 | kai | aha |
| 14:09.12 | kai | so you're back to germany? |
| 14:09.28 | MatthewWilkes | yup |
| 14:09.30 | MatthewWilkes | until weds |
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| 15:08.58 | wkoszek | Could I get a feedback on FreeBSD's Google Code-In ideas list here? It's one task for now: |
| 15:09.02 | wkoszek | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.03 | wkoszek | http://wiki.freebsd.org/action/edit/GoogleCodeIn/2011 |
| 15:10.03 | wkoszek | If it's OK we could provide some more ideas like that. I have just created a sample one to see, if all requirements are met. |
| 15:10.13 | sfb | Wow, we're supposed to be starting that already? |
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| 15:10.48 | wkoszek | I see November 9th being a date for accepted projects announcement. |
| 15:11.21 | wkoszek | I'd love to know what's the deadline for figuring out the formal stuff. In other words: what's the date when Google Staff will sit and review projects. |
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| 15:16.05 | sfb | wkoszek: FWIW that is a pretty good and detailed task template. I don't know that I put that much information in my tasks last year. |
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| 15:21.44 | gevaerts | wkoszek: you should be able to get "official" feedback from carols in a few hours, although maybe she'll be too busy to look at it now (or to even join the channel), since I believe the doc sprint is starting today. |
| 15:23.33 | MatthewWilkes | Man, those medical professionals sure can run. |
| 15:27.53 | kblin | sfb: ping |
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| 15:30.22 | sfb | kblin: pong. |
| 15:31.00 | sfb | MatthewWilkes: That's funny - we have a high number of people in our clinical application development area that run multiple marathons a year. |
| 15:31.13 | sfb | MatthewWilkes: Two who do triathelons. |
| 15:31.29 | sfb | MatthewWilkes: I thought maybe we were just an oddity, as far as organizations go. (; |
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| 15:39.25 | wkoszek | gevaerts: Just to know that it's Carol - what's her IRC nick ? |
| 15:41.56 | kblin | wkoszek: carols |
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| 15:50.44 | wkoszek | kblin: Thanks. |
| 15:51.41 | thebolt | afternoon kblin .. how's your code treating you? :) |
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| 15:52.03 | kblin | thebolt: I got up to 4% test coverage and gave up for the day |
| 15:52.49 | sfb | ahah |
| 15:53.14 | kblin | still 6600 statements untested |
| 15:53.32 | sfb | I'm always disappointed whenever I look at the code coverage for Ryzom Core. |
| 15:54.35 | kblin | of course code coverage alone doesn't help too much |
| 15:55.08 | kblin | I've recently written a web app that had 100% code coverage for every checkin, and I've since found a bunch of issues |
| 15:57.04 | kblin | quite a few, considering it's a pretty simple app |
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| 16:02.09 | sfb | kblin: OpenNMS has a cool requirement for their internal bug handling. |
| 16:02.29 | sfb | kblin: Whenever a customer opens a case for a non-trivial bug the first step it to create a unit test that exhibits the bug. |
| 16:02.40 | sfb | kblin: Then fix the code so the unit test passes. |
| 16:02.57 | sfb | kblin: So next release you can have some faith that it is covered in regression testing. |
| 16:06.25 | Naarkie | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UZ49zhmakGU/TgovD3wedQI/AAAAAAAAAGo/JG6OSJteAaI/s1600/segways.jpg <- i want one of those |
| 16:07.52 | Naarkie | :P |
| 16:10.59 | sfb | hahah |
| 16:11.27 | sfb | I was at a play-date for my kid and one of his preschool friends. The Dad and I were talking and I mentioned the Mentor Summit. |
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| 16:11.57 | sfb | He says "Oh their place in Mountain View? There's one business right in the middle that is one of my clients. Every time I go there some Googler tries to run me over in a damn Segway." |
| 16:12.36 | Naarkie | :L |
| 16:12.49 | Naarkie | they look pretty fun to ride around in |
| 16:15.04 | kblin | sfb: only sane way to do bug fixing, if you have decent tests |
| 16:15.17 | sfb | Yeah |
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| 16:36.49 | Naarkie | Hmm |
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| 16:36.59 | Naarkie | What difference is there between MIT License and BSD License? |
| 16:37.03 | Naarkie | they look the same to me |
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| 16:39.58 | Triskelios | Naarkie: they have different terms, and the exact legal interpretation will probably differ, but only a lawyer can tell you for sure |
| 16:40.13 | Naarkie | >.< |
| 16:40.18 | Naarkie | damn legalese |
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| 16:41.05 | Naarkie | what I've interpreted for both of them is "do whatever, as long as you say its me who made this and leave this copyright notice" |
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| 16:44.22 | MatthewWilkes | looks to me that the MIT license is less careful about what a distribution is, but requires any documentation to be included to me |
| 16:44.45 | haseeb | kai, ring |
| 16:45.05 | haseeb | kai, *ping |
| 16:45.27 | Triskelios | the standard MIT licence doesn't mention documentation, but BSD does |
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| 16:45.57 | Triskelios | oh, sorry, it does, in terms of what constitutes covered materials |
| 16:47.31 | kblin | haseeb: pong |
| 16:47.40 | kblin | haseeb: but not for long, sigfood pending |
| 16:48.47 | Naarkie | hmm |
| 16:49.50 | haseeb | Ok |
| 16:50.23 | haseeb | kblin,can i pm you? |
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| 17:02.12 | haseeb | Hi carols |
| 17:02.17 | carols | hi haseeb |
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| 17:04.04 | thebolt | hi carols |
| 17:04.25 | carols | hi thebolt |
| 17:04.34 | carols | not used to seeing you up this early |
| 17:04.37 | carols | you in europe? :-) |
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| 17:05.07 | thebolt | carols: up late rather :) |
| 17:05.14 | carols | fair enough :-) |
| 17:05.15 | thebolt | carols: its a bit past 1 am here.. i should get to bed |
| 17:05.19 | thebolt | and no, still in east asia |
| 17:05.23 | carols | ah, i see |
| 17:05.34 | thebolt | how's life going? |
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| 17:15.19 | stpere | short story.. rather than modifying my plane ticket, I bought a new one :P |
| 17:15.26 | stpere | 1300$ vs 251$ :P |
| 17:16.03 | stpere | that's silly and sounds wasteful, I know.. |
| 17:18.23 | carols | life's good for me, thebolt. busy working through 3 events |
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| 17:25.57 | akashm1990 | carols: Any idea on when the corrected certificates are getting shipped? |
| 17:26.14 | carols | akashm1990: i'd ask christian, he's the best judge of that |
| 17:26.34 | akashm1990 | ok.. thx |
| 17:31.13 | thebolt | carols: hehe, can understand so, good luck with that! |
| 17:31.20 | carols | thanks thebolt :-) |
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| 18:51.39 | gevaerts | drinks some tea |
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| 18:54.56 | carols_ | hey gevaerts |
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| 19:21.07 | Andrei90 | when does the student registration starts for next summer ? |
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| 19:22.11 | Nightrose | Andrei90: they program hasn't been announced yet |
| 19:22.19 | Nightrose | but look at the timeline for this year |
| 19:22.29 | Andrei90 | alright thanks |
| 19:22.33 | Nightrose | it'll probably be similar if google runs it again |
| 19:22.38 | Nightrose | *the |
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| 19:22.50 | MatthewWilkes | spectie! |
| 19:22.53 | Andrei90 | can you give more details about the experience? |
| 19:23.14 | kblin | re |
| 19:23.14 | spectie | MatthewWilkes, hey! |
| 19:23.16 | spectie | we'll see each other this friday ? |
| 19:23.24 | MatthewWilkes | no :( |
| 19:23.42 | MatthewWilkes | My flight gets in late, will be past midnight, so technically saturday, by the time I reach the hotel ;) |
| 19:24.02 | carols_ | Andrei90: you probably want to read over the student manual if you haven't already |
| 19:24.20 | spectie | :( |
| 19:24.40 | carols_ | Andrei90: or, if there's a specific question you're trying to answer, i can see if i can help. |
| 19:24.45 | MatthewWilkes | It's my own fault, really |
| 19:24.52 | MatthewWilkes | I clicked the wrong button on expedia |
| 19:25.01 | MatthewWilkes | and I'm booked in Tango on AC, no changes allowed |
| 19:25.04 | scorche | MatthewWilkes: at least you will get there! |
| 19:25.22 | MatthewWilkes | scorche: My leg will go unsqueezed, though. |
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| 19:25.25 | spectie | i made a similar error |
| 19:25.28 | spectie | on the return trip |
| 19:25.30 | spectie | 25 hours |
| 19:25.33 | spectie | via dublin |
| 19:25.33 | spectie | :| |
| 19:25.39 | scorche | MatthewWilkes: i am sure someone there will squeeze your leg if you ask them to |
| 19:25.39 | Andrei90 | just wanted to know an idea from people who already participated in this project a brief description about the experience |
| 19:25.41 | MatthewWilkes | I have 12 hours in Vancouver |
| 19:25.50 | spectie | jeez |
| 19:25.53 | spectie | :( |
| 19:25.56 | MatthewWilkes | scorche: Actually, gevaerts probably will |
| 19:26.02 | carols_ | Andrei90: there's lots of quotes from students in the student manual. you've looked that over? |
| 19:26.07 | MatthewWilkes | I'm going to have a nice meal and watch canada stream past |
| 19:26.10 | MatthewWilkes | don't feel sorry for me |
| 19:26.30 | scorche | MatthewWilkes: on the plus side, YVR is one of my favorite airports =) |
| 19:26.42 | Andrei90 | carols_: thank you for you answer! I'll do that now |
| 19:26.43 | kblin | carols_: pm? |
| 19:26.49 | carols_ | Andrei90: yw |
| 19:26.50 | carols_ | kblin: sure |
| 19:26.51 | kblin | hey there, btw |
| 19:26.55 | MatthewWilkes | scorche: With 12 hours I will go into town, although if I arrive back with plenty of time I'll buy into the MLL |
| 19:27.18 | MatthewWilkes | if they let me⦠|
| 19:27.36 | scorche | MatthewWilkes: yeah - take the sky train right in - let me know if you want help with anything ;) |
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| 19:30.46 | MatthewWilkes | scorche: I would half heartedly ask for a spare eUp, but I cheaped out so much on the flights there aren't any that would work. I'll take a restaurant recommendation for toronto |
| 19:31.48 | scorche | wonders what an eUp is |
| 19:32.10 | scorche | toronto i know much less well... |
| 19:32.49 | MatthewWilkes | the thing we proles use to sit nearer the front of the plane without paying three times as much |
| 19:33.16 | kblin | Andrei90: so personally I think GSoC is one of the coolest things I got involved with, and you won't stop me from saying that by chickening out and signing off |
| 19:33.24 | scorche | ah - upgrade coupon - we dont get any of those |
| 19:33.46 | MatthewWilkes | scorche: As I say, I wasn't being serious, and it'd be useless to me anyway |
| 19:36.01 | MatthewWilkes | "New US transit procedures for YVR" - maybe I should read this⦠|
| 19:36.31 | MatthewWilkes | ah, 2009 |
| 19:36.39 | MatthewWilkes | that explains why it didn't sound new |
| 19:36.48 | MatthewWilkes | man, my brain has turned to mush |
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| 21:20.18 | wkoszek | carols: Around? Any chance you good briefly look at (eventual) FreeBSD list of ideas (1 item for now) and tell me if it makes sense at all? |
| 21:20.24 | wkoszek | carols: http://wiki.freebsd.org/action/edit/GoogleCodeIn/2011 |
| 21:20.37 | wkoszek | s/good/could/ |
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| 22:12.20 | koda | i'm not sure this is the right place to ask, but how do you get involved as an organization for offering google code in tasks? |
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| 22:14.02 | Catfish_Man | koda: basically, keep an eye on tech news sites and wait for applications for mentoring organizations to open |
| 22:14.07 | Catfish_Man | then follow the instructions on the site |
| 22:14.16 | koda | \o/ |
| 22:14.22 | chrisoelmueller | general admin stuff is outlined here, especially check out the required task amount: http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIAdminMentorInformation |
| 22:14.24 | koda | sounds easy enough :) |
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| 22:24.25 | ojwb | koda, Catfish_Man: I think for google code in, applications are only open to orgs which have taken part in gsoc already |
| 22:24.43 | Catfish_Man | oh, "code in" is a thing |
| 22:25.01 | Catfish_Man | sorry, I thought koda was asking about gsoc in an odd way; too used to non-native english grammar here :) |
| 22:25.08 | ojwb | ah |
| 22:25.12 | Catfish_Man | koda: listen to ojwb not me, sorry |
| 22:25.37 | MatthewWilkes | words of wisdom |
| 22:25.39 | MatthewWilkes | words of power |
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| 22:27.22 | carols | loves it when the community helps out so she doesn't have to answer more questions |
| 22:27.23 | carols | :-) |
| 22:28.23 | gevaerts | carols: I imagine it's better if the answer are accurate :) |
| 22:28.34 | carols | gevaerts: true. true. |
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| 23:09.24 | wkoszek | finds more information on Carol's wiki page |
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| 23:14.45 | wkoszek | inserts "Category" as an explicit task's element |
| 23:18.20 | wkoszek | Hm. 5 tasks per 8 categories by November 21st and another 5x8 till December 16th. Hm... That's .... 80 possible tasks? |
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