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| 00:57.48 | nemo | heh. I notice the gsoc photo has a few additions :) |
| 00:57.59 | nemo | someone should consider do colour to alpha when pasting in :) |
| 00:58.11 | nemo | one gsoc project should actually make such things easier in the future |
| 00:58.34 | nemo | http://lightningismyname.blogspot.com/2011/09/video-demo-of-my-gsoc-project.html |
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| 01:09.27 | thebolt | morning |
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| 02:30.51 | MobileTurkey | hello |
| 02:31.27 | MobileTurkey | If a project wanted to participate in next years soc, when is it time to apply? |
| 02:32.01 | chrisoelmueller | after google announced to run GSoC 2012 and before the deadline announced together with this |
| 02:32.16 | chrisoelmueller | you might want to follow the OSPO blog and the soc announce mailing list |
| 02:32.20 | MobileTurkey | did we miss it? |
| 02:32.24 | MobileTurkey | okay |
| 02:32.44 | chrisoelmueller | nope, it will happen around the time it did for this year, if it does |
| 02:33.53 | MobileTurkey | I am not to familiar with this all |
| 02:33.57 | MobileTurkey | thank you though |
| 02:34.09 | chrisoelmueller | then the FAQ might be a good start :) |
| 02:35.09 | MobileTurkey | okay :D |
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| 12:33.18 | kai | uuuh, brilliant, I found code that reimplements os.listdir() |
| 12:38.53 | sfb | hahaha |
| 12:39.08 | sfb | If it reimplements it thats because it is better. |
| 12:51.12 | kai | no, I'm getting the impression that whoever wrote this had no clue about the python standard library |
| 12:52.11 | kai | then again, I think " 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)" is a great diffstat :) |
| 12:53.54 | kai | whoever wrote this also doesn't believe in booleans... |
| 12:54.23 | kai | obviously strings that are either 'y', 'yes', 'n' or 'no' are much better |
| 12:54.51 | sfb | haha |
| 12:54.52 | paultag | kai: um, duh? |
| 12:55.05 | paultag | esp. in Java. |
| 12:55.19 | paultag | only then does it's true grace and simplicity show |
| 12:56.53 | sfb | You know what I love about Java? Class names. |
| 12:56.58 | sfb | Like this gem from Swing. |
| 12:57.00 | sfb | InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonWindowNotFocusedState |
| 12:57.10 | paultag | sfb: you're kidding |
| 12:57.13 | paultag | that's not in Swing |
| 12:57.19 | paultag | there's no way :)O |
| 12:57.24 | sfb | sun.swing.plaf.nimbus |
| 12:57.39 | gevaerts | nice |
| 12:57.43 | kai | hahah, brilliant |
| 12:57.47 | paultag | oh jeeez |
| 12:57.55 | paultag | that had to have been a joke |
| 12:59.16 | sfb | I couldn't remember the Spring one I use all the time (something ridiculous like AbstractSpringContextWithoutServletContainerReadyForCommandLine) |
| 12:59.24 | sfb | And when I searched for it I got this: |
| 12:59.26 | sfb | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Really-Descriptive-Names.aspx |
| 12:59.29 | sfb | Which is slightly more amusing. |
| 13:01.36 | paultag | rubs head |
| 13:01.45 | paultag | my brain :) |
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| 13:03.32 | kai | well, I'm currently working on code that names variables a, b, c, d, e, f and there's a function called g() in there, too |
| 13:03.48 | paultag | :\ |
| 13:04.33 | gevaerts | e is a great variable name for storing things like e :) |
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| 13:05.22 | sfb | I use 'e' too often. |
| 13:05.43 | sfb | e means "exception i caught but am going to totally ignore because i just throw a try/catch block here to get rid of a warning." |
| 13:05.47 | gevaerts | It's people who use "pi" as a constant name in the modern unicode world who are annoying! |
| 13:05.48 | sfb | )= |
| 13:06.20 | Ivanovic | better use pee |
| 13:06.44 | kai | but pi is supposed to be a pointer to i, right? everybody loves hungarian notation |
| 13:06.56 | Ivanovic | ^^ |
| 13:07.30 | Ivanovic | with pee i of course meen a pointer to a variable holding e² |
| 13:07.52 | gevaerts | kai: ah, right |
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| 13:16.30 | sfb | kai: Wouldn't that be LPi ? |
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| 13:35.03 | olly | if you're ignoring the exception, why name the exception object at all? |
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| 13:41.24 | sfb | olly: In case in the future I want to not ignore it. |
| 13:41.39 | sfb | olly: Hell if I understand why my project (and often myself) do these things. |
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| 14:05.13 | kai | sfb: hehe |
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| 14:28.25 | kai | I should get my coworker to stop helping me... |
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| 14:30.37 | jelmer | kai: "helping" ? |
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| 14:32.05 | kai | well, the new code contains gems like http://paste.pocoo.org/show/501681/ |
| 14:32.27 | kai | and throws a ton of pylint errors again |
| 14:32.36 | kai | not mentioning that it doesn't work on the test input I tried |
| 14:33.00 | kai | I really need to set up something like samba's autobuild for our internal git tree |
| 14:33.42 | kai | not to mention that copying files should be done this way at all, but that's yet another story |
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| 14:35.36 | jelmer | kai: heh, that's pretty terrible indeed.. |
| 14:35.54 | jelmer | kai: well, autobuild doesn't prevent people from writing bad code.. it just makes sure that code passes the testsuite |
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| 14:38.08 | kai | jelmer: yes, I'll worry about the horrible code again once the software works on the test input again |
| 14:38.18 | kai | we don't have a comprehensive test suite yet |
| 14:38.32 | |Kev| | I quite like Jenkins/Hudson for CI, FWIW. |
| 14:38.50 | |Kev| | Although it's not cheap on memory. |
| 14:38.59 | kai | I'm at 10% coverage, and I spend too much time fixing the software to work again every time my coworker pushes |
| 14:39.07 | |Kev| | I particularly like the CI game it has as a plugin where it keeps score based on people breaking or fixing the build :) |
| 14:39.55 | kai | so I'm happy for e.g. not allowing people to push stuff as long as pylint -E comes up with output |
| 14:40.21 | kai | it's not perfect, but it's a pretty good heuristic from my experience |
| 14:41.12 | jelmer | |Kev|: I prefer having branches vetted before they land, so that trunk can't actually be broken (barring outside influences, flapping tests, etc) |
| 14:41.38 | kai | yeah, what jelmer said |
| 14:42.11 | kai | ahrg! four space indentation, dammit! |
| 14:43.46 | |Kev| | jelmer: Right, horses for courses. |
| 14:44.18 | kai | and what's so bloody hard in keeping a line below 100 characters? |
| 14:44.45 | kai | I'd love 80, but I'd settle for anything that doesn't linebreak on my 160 char wide editor window |
| 14:44.53 | kai | ..twice.. |
| 14:45.16 | kai | goes to get some chocolate |
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| 15:21.33 | kai | w....t.....f..... |
| 15:21.35 | kai | lastpos = max([infile.rfind("\\"),infile.rfind("/")]) |
| 15:21.47 | kai | originpath = infile[:(lastpos + 1)] |
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| 15:23.04 | kai | whatever happened to "os.dirname" ? |
| 15:23.50 | gevaerts | It went away, clearly |
| 15:25.02 | kai | I think it left, weeping |
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| 15:33.01 | kai | hmm, looks like the help only cost me an hour this time |
| 15:33.05 | kai | not that bad, then |
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| 16:57.25 | sumitk | carols: ping |
| 16:57.32 | carols | sumitk: pong |
| 16:57.43 | sumitk | carols: heya! |
| 16:57.47 | carols | hey :-) |
| 16:57.50 | sumitk | carols: I got a que for you ... |
| 16:57.57 | carols | sure |
| 16:58.17 | sumitk | carols: I am little confused how we (Drupal) gonna receive money and how to distribute it afterwards |
| 16:58.26 | carols | ok... |
| 16:58.29 | carols | how can i help with that? |
| 16:58.36 | sumitk | carols: I am referring to mentor summit expense + mentor stipends |
| 16:58.46 | carols | indeed |
| 16:58.48 | sumitk | carols: do you know how we did that last year ? |
| 16:59.09 | carols | sumitk: we had 150 organizations last year. you want me to remember what one specific org did? :-) |
| 16:59.20 | carols | don't you guys talk to each other? |
| 16:59.22 | carols | :-) |
| 16:59.29 | sumitk | carols: :) we just got lost somehow ;) |
| 16:59.40 | carols | no, i don't know what you did last year :-) |
| 16:59.54 | sumitk | carols: I know everything except financials .. but ill figure out :) |
| 17:00.01 | carols | great :-) |
| 17:00.07 | sumitk | carols: thanks for everything |
| 17:00.22 | mmadia_BG | sumitk : i think you donated the money to me ;) |
| 17:00.23 | carols | yw |
| 17:00.34 | sumitk | yeah that's how we roll :P |
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| 17:08.25 | brlcad | carols: couple quick questions about summit travel -- best to ask here, pm, email? |
| 17:08.42 | carols | brlcad: pm is fine |
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| 17:12.26 | kblin | hehe |
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| 17:15.45 | kblin | carols: thanks for passing it on, but I take I still need to provide receipts :) |
| 17:15.52 | carols | kblin: then please do :-) |
| 17:16.28 | kblin | I'll do once I get the ticket number |
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| 17:20.07 | sumitk | carols: PM? |
| 17:20.20 | carols | sumitk: sure |
| 17:21.04 | kblin | !this cookie | carols |
| 17:21.05 | gsocbot | carols: "this cookie" is for you |
| 17:21.10 | kblin | :) |
| 17:21.25 | carols | thanks kblin :-) |
| 17:21.31 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 17:25.51 | gevaerts | gets some coffee to help finding this bug |
| 17:25.54 | gevaerts | carols: thanks! |
| 17:26.06 | carols | yw gevaerts :-) |
| 17:26.13 | carols | i've been eating chocolate :-) |
| 17:27.50 | gevaerts | Sounds like a good idea :) |
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| 18:00.45 | gevaerts | fixed the bug so he can go home ☺/ |
| 18:01.31 | carols | good job, gevaerts :-) |
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| 18:31.30 | gevaerts | carols: I like to think that I'm not *always* useless :) |
| 18:31.42 | carols | gevaerts: i don't think you're useless! |
| 18:31.52 | gevaerts | Thanks :) |
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| 18:58.44 | weltall | :D |
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