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08:08.09dreimark!next
08:08.11gsocbotdreimark: "next" is November 21, 2011, 08:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants
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08:47.14madrazrHi, org admins from Haiku around?
08:47.16madrazr:)
08:47.26madrazrorg admin for GCI that is
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11:06.32andre__The "Events & Timeline" link to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2011 is a 4040
11:06.34andre__err 404
11:07.00andre__plus I (admin) wonder how I can invite mentors and co-admins. I get a "user not found" and users don't find how to apply.
11:07.26c_schmitzSRabbelier : ^^^
11:08.32andre__maybe there is documentation what mentors are expected to do and I just didn't find it...
11:09.05andre__if all goes wrong I can get myself a second Google account and try myself, however I assume to end up with the same problem...
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11:38.22SRabbelier|Lappyandre__: timeline is working for me
11:38.45andre__SRabbelier, how weird. a co-worker on another network confirmed to me that it doesn't work
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11:39.18c_schmitzyeah, I can confirm it, too
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11:40.10andre__c_schmitz, that it works, or that it's a 404? :)
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11:40.53c_schmitzthat it is a 404
11:41.39SRabbelier|Lappyc_schmitz: ah
11:41.41andre__ah
11:41.47SRabbelier|Lappyworks for admins
11:42.04SRabbelier|Lappybecause the access check that's supposed to look up the document isn't running or somesuch
11:43.19andre__so I'm trying to invite mentors for GCI. I asked two mentors-to-be to try to find a link. Both couldn't find out. When I try to invite them, I end up either with "User must create a profile for this program." or "User not found." Is there some documentation what each party (admin; mentor to be) is expected to do?
11:45.02SRabbelier|Lappyah, there should have been a link on the homepage
11:45.02SRabbelier|Lappywww.google-melange.com/gci/profile/mentor/google/gci2011
11:45.04SRabbelier|Lappyto that page
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11:46.01andre__and wannabe mentors fill that out first, give me their link_id, then I can invite them, right?
11:46.04andre__let me try...
11:49.47SRabbelier|Lappyandre__: tight
11:49.48SRabbelier|Lappy*right
11:49.49SRabbelier|Lappylol
11:49.59andre__hehehe
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11:52.07andre__plus going to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2011/faq , everything links to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/* except for "When does the contest begin?" linking to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/edit/gci_program/google/gci2011/begin which brings up "You need to be a program adminstrator to access this page."
11:52.41SRabbelier|Lappyah, let me fix that real quick :)
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11:54.02SRabbelier|Lappyandre__: do the show urls work?
11:54.17andre__yes
11:54.38SRabbelier|Lappyok
11:54.39SRabbelier|Lappytry now :)
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11:55.30andre__yepp, works. thanks
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12:22.06SRabbelier|Lappyandre__: timeline is working again
12:22.57andre__thanks
12:23.06andre__and I managed to get my first mentors. thanks for the help! :)
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12:25.51SRabbelier|Lappyandre__: woot :)
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14:58.33c_schmitzso how would I go about adding mentors?
15:02.11SRabbelier|Lappyc_schmitz: they have to create a profile at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/mentor/google/gci2011
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16:11.10Alex11223Good evening. Can someone explain more about "You must demonstrate the consent of a parent or legal guardian in order to be eligible to receive any prizes as well as written proof of age and proof of enrollment in a pre-university, high school or secondary school program." , what and when I must demonstrate?
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16:26.27Alex11223is someone here?)
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16:33.31sfbAlex11223: A lot of people are here.
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16:34.54sfbAlex11223: Google will ask for proof before you claim any prizes.
16:35.55Alex11223what is claim? after contest ends in January?
16:36.28sfbI believe that is correct.
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17:30.07carolsserves some tea and cookies
17:30.25Catfish_Mang'morning carols :)
17:30.32carolsgood morning Catfish_Man :-)
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18:16.20gevaertsYay, coffee!
18:16.35carols:-)
18:17.07weltalland chocolates
18:17.21gevaertsAh, yes. We always need more chocolate :)
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20:01.30spectieare there any posters for GCI ?
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20:10.28SRabbeliercarols would konw
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20:21.25ppujalAm I missing something or we can't still add tasks?
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20:24.12SRabbelierppujal: you're missing something
20:24.16SRabbelierppujal: what's the problem?
20:24.47ppujalDon't find a link to the page to add the task
20:25.24SRabbelierppujal: you're logged in as org admin?
20:26.44ppujalHow Can I confirm this?, I am logged but don't know as what
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20:27.45SRabbelierppujal: what's your sidebar say on the left? is there an "Org Admin Dashboard" entry?
20:28.18ppujalNopes, only "My Dashboard"
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20:30.05ppujalMentors can't fill tasks as last year?
20:31.54Arcfor me "My Dashboard" and "Org Admin Dashboard" are the same url
20:32.03SRabbelierArc: truly? curious
20:32.25SRabbelierppujal: eh, you probably can if you ask your org admin for the url he uses to create new tasks
20:32.34Arcyea both are http://www.google-melange.com/gci/dashboard/google/gci2011
20:32.51SRabbelierArc: curious indeed
20:33.06ppujalSRabbelier: Thanks, I will mail him
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20:53.53andre__I am admin. I'd also like to be mentor. How can I do that?
20:54.04andre__If I ask another admin to invite me, he gets ‘User andreklapper already has mentor role for this program.’
20:54.12andre__but I don't see myself in the dropdown for creating new tasks
20:54.17Nightroseandre__: SRabbelier is just fixing that for me :D
20:54.31manugupt1andre__: Its by default I guess
20:54.31andre__hah! :-D
20:54.33SRabbelierandre__: might you be so good as to try agian now? :)
20:54.50NightroseSRabbelier: worksforme
20:54.52SRabbelier(to assign yourself to a task)
20:54.52Nightrosethanks!
20:54.57SRabbeliervictory dance
20:55.01andre__yeah, thanks :)
20:55.04SRabbelieryeah
20:55.10SRabbelierwe have denormalized our database a bit
20:55.21Nightrosescary...
20:55.26Nightrose;-)
20:55.41SRabbelierand I'd forgotten some fields when creating an admin from the org application
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20:56.16SRabbelierthat is, your org_admin_for list had the org, but the "is_org_admin" wasn't set, nor was "is_mentor", and the "mentor_for" list wasn't filled either
20:56.25SRabbelierfixed that right up
20:56.30SRabbelieron the interactive console
20:56.33SRabbelierwith transactions too
21:02.53ppujalJust to be sure, If I click on My Dashboard and there it says "Participant dashboard" does this meant that I am logged as student instead of mentor?
21:04.00andre__something like "task successfully created" or so would be really nice. :-/
21:04.20SRabbelierppujal: there's no way to be a student yet
21:04.23andre__plus as my bulk import does not work, a "failure" message would also be welcome at least. need to go to the tasks overview to find out that it didn't work
21:04.26andre__sighs
21:04.37SRabbelierandre__: I thought there was an error message
21:05.02SRabbelierc_schmitz in #melange got one
21:05.03andre__hmm. not for me.
21:05.18SRabbelierandre__: please create a http://tinyurl.com/new-issue for both of those
21:05.26SRabbelierthose are both fixable
21:05.40SRabbelierbut I really need to do some thesis work now
21:05.43andre__once I'm more or less done with importing. A bit under time pressure :)
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21:13.06manugupt1Hmm.. strange How do I invite a mentor.. If I add the mentor, I get a message username or mentor not found, and the mentor is not able to create a profile of his own
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21:14.31Nightrosemanugupt1: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/mentor/google/gci2011
21:15.07manugupt1diamond_gr: Look at the link Nightrose sent you please
21:15.09manugupt1thanks Nightrose
21:15.14Nightrosenp
21:15.47diamond_grGot it. Thanks
21:15.57andre__where did the "Quality Assurance" category go on the "Create Task" page? or does my browser render with a font and css designs that hide it?
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21:26.46SRabbelierandre__: oh
21:26.48SRabbeliermaybe I killed it earlier
21:27.33andre__If so: I want it back! :P
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21:35.44spectiehmm
21:35.55spectieshould we be able to add tasks already ?
21:36.10carolsspectie: yes
21:36.14spectiehmm
21:36.20spectieok
21:36.27spectieprobably a problem on our end then
21:37.04carolsshould be under "my dashboard"
21:37.26spectiei just see 'My organization applications'
21:39.49SRabbelierspectie: org admin dashboard in particular
21:39.53SRabbelierspectie: are you an org admin?
21:40.10spectiei should be, but it is possible that i am not
21:40.19spectieif i were not org admin would i see "my organisation applications"
21:40.26spectiewith this years application in ?
21:40.35SRabbelierspectie: yes, you might have filled out the application but that doesn't mean you created the org
21:40.43SRabbelierspectie: what's your link_id?
21:41.12spectiefrancis.tyers
21:44.10SRabbelierspectie: you sure that's your username?
21:44.23SRabbelierspectie: ah, well
21:44.32SRabbelierspectie: you didn't create your org did you?
21:45.06SRabbeliernvm
21:45.16SRabbelierI can't find anyone with that username
21:45.42spectiehmm
21:45.53spectiejoregan (jim o'regan) did
21:45.58spectieSRabbelier, hmm
21:46.04spectiei'm sorry for being a bit dense here
21:46.16spectieif i log in with my gsoc/gmail/google account
21:46.23spectiedo i need to make a new profile
21:46.28spectieif i was in gsoc/gci last year ?
21:46.39SRabbelierspectie: yes you do, and you need to ask joregan to invite you as admin
21:46.45spectieok
21:46.49SRabbelierspectie: go to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/org_admin/google/gci2011 to create your profile
21:47.00spectiebut if i'm not an org admin
21:47.05spectiewhy can i see "my organisation applications" ?
21:47.08spectieor can everyone see them ?
21:47.26SRabbelierspectie: you can see that because you filled one out and/or were listed as a co-admin
21:47.30spectieok
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21:47.42spectieand if i was listed as co-admin do i need to get him to invite me as admin ?
21:48.49SRabbelierspectie: eh, if you create a profile I can manually do it but it'd be easier if you ask him to invite you, yes
21:49.20spectieok
21:49.21spectie'sec
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21:51.41spectiedone it
21:53.29SRabbelierspectie: can you ask him to do the invite?
21:53.36andre__is there any way to see if my HTML markup in the tasks' descriptions makes sense (preview)? or is that also validated when entering a task?
21:53.56SRabbelierandre__: QA has made its reappearnace
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21:54.21spectieSRabbelier, yes, have done
21:54.23spectiehe's offline atm
21:54.25spectiebut i've emailed him
21:54.26andre__SRabbelier, yay, thank you. Means I can import a few more tasks :)
21:54.43SRabbelierspectie: ok, let me know if you have any problems
21:54.50SRabbelierandre__: sorry about that, deleted it earlier by accident :)
21:55.04andre__hehe. no problem. busy times for everybody :)
21:56.38SRabbelierppujal: you still around?
21:58.23ppujalYes, I am entering my first task :)
21:58.26andre__SRabbelier: works, but UI has a glitch: after adding a QA task and getting the "*?validated" view, there is one enabled "QA" field at the top of the "Type" list, and suddenly another one at the bottom
21:58.45SRabbelierppujal: can you send me a screenshot of your dashboard?
21:58.58SRabbelier!screenshot | ppujal
21:58.58gsocbotppujal: "screenshot" is Please provide a screenshot illustrating your problem, we recommend http://www.awesomescreenshot.com for easy screenshotting.
21:59.22SRabbelieroh bugger
21:59.36SRabbelierbroils madrazr slowly
22:00.10SRabbelierandre__: how about now?
22:03.26andre__SRabbelier, "QA" moved to the bottom of the list and everything is fine now
22:03.39SRabbelierandre__: yay
22:06.16mang0When're the challenges going to be listed as a page for GCI? on the 21st, when the comp opens?
22:06.25carolsmang0: yes
22:07.09ppujalSRabbelier: Seems working now, anyway here is the screenshot:
22:07.11ppujalhttp://hornol.no-ip.org/screenshot_GCI_dashboard.png
22:07.16mang0carols: Ty.
22:07.20carolsyw
22:08.02SRabbelierppujal: ah you got made org admin in the meanwhile, sneaky fellow
22:11.01SRabbelierppujal: you sure you were mentor before?
22:12.37ppujalI am not sure about nothing :), I simply follow a html link provided by one of the admins to create the account
22:12.56ppujalI thouth I were mentor
22:14.03ppujalnow the main admin has sent an admin invitation, so i've accepted
22:14.04SRabbelierppujal: ah, ok :P
22:14.09SRabbelierppujal: ok np
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22:39.48spectietwo quick questions: must the task titles be only in english, or can they be bilingual
22:39.54spectieand can the descriptions be bilingual too ?
22:40.19carolsspectie: only in english, sorry. the contest is being administered in english
22:40.26carolswe have to make sure we can moderate everything
22:40.31carolsand i only speak english :-)
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22:41.08gevaertsoffers to teach carols another language
22:41.53spectiecarols, ok
22:42.02spectiecarols, are we allowed to provide translations ?
22:42.08spectieof the task descriptions ?
22:42.18spectiee.g. on our wiki
22:44.04carolsthanks gevaerts :-)
22:44.11carolsspectie: on your wiki? sure
22:44.14spectieok
22:44.57spectiewe have been doing a lot of outreach in russia, and lots of the kids there speak very little english
22:45.16spectieso we have some tasks in russian: http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Task_ideas_for_Google_Code-in/Russian
22:45.33carolsok, that's fine, i just need to be able to moderate out spam if needed
22:45.40carolsand that means administering it in english
22:45.53spectieno problem
22:45.58spectiei completely understand
22:46.15carolsgreat :-)
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