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08:08.11 | gsocbot | dreimark: "next" is November 21, 2011, 08:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
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08:47.14 | madrazr | Hi, org admins from Haiku around? |
08:47.16 | madrazr | :) |
08:47.26 | madrazr | org admin for GCI that is |
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11:06.32 | andre__ | The "Events & Timeline" link to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2011 is a 4040 |
11:06.34 | andre__ | err 404 |
11:07.00 | andre__ | plus I (admin) wonder how I can invite mentors and co-admins. I get a "user not found" and users don't find how to apply. |
11:07.26 | c_schmitz | SRabbelier : ^^^ |
11:08.32 | andre__ | maybe there is documentation what mentors are expected to do and I just didn't find it... |
11:09.05 | andre__ | if all goes wrong I can get myself a second Google account and try myself, however I assume to end up with the same problem... |
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11:38.22 | SRabbelier|Lappy | andre__: timeline is working for me |
11:38.45 | andre__ | SRabbelier, how weird. a co-worker on another network confirmed to me that it doesn't work |
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11:39.18 | c_schmitz | yeah, I can confirm it, too |
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11:40.10 | andre__ | c_schmitz, that it works, or that it's a 404? :) |
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11:40.53 | c_schmitz | that it is a 404 |
11:41.39 | SRabbelier|Lappy | c_schmitz: ah |
11:41.41 | andre__ | ah |
11:41.47 | SRabbelier|Lappy | works for admins |
11:42.04 | SRabbelier|Lappy | because the access check that's supposed to look up the document isn't running or somesuch |
11:43.19 | andre__ | so I'm trying to invite mentors for GCI. I asked two mentors-to-be to try to find a link. Both couldn't find out. When I try to invite them, I end up either with "User must create a profile for this program." or "User not found." Is there some documentation what each party (admin; mentor to be) is expected to do? |
11:45.02 | SRabbelier|Lappy | ah, there should have been a link on the homepage |
11:45.02 | SRabbelier|Lappy | www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/mentor/google/gci2011 |
11:45.04 | SRabbelier|Lappy | to that page |
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11:46.01 | andre__ | and wannabe mentors fill that out first, give me their link_id, then I can invite them, right? |
11:46.04 | andre__ | let me try... |
11:49.47 | SRabbelier|Lappy | andre__: tight |
11:49.48 | SRabbelier|Lappy | *right |
11:49.49 | SRabbelier|Lappy | lol |
11:49.59 | andre__ | hehehe |
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11:52.07 | andre__ | plus going to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2011/faq , everything links to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/* except for "When does the contest begin?" linking to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/edit/gci_program/google/gci2011/begin which brings up "You need to be a program adminstrator to access this page." |
11:52.41 | SRabbelier|Lappy | ah, let me fix that real quick :) |
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11:54.02 | SRabbelier|Lappy | andre__: do the show urls work? |
11:54.17 | andre__ | yes |
11:54.38 | SRabbelier|Lappy | ok |
11:54.39 | SRabbelier|Lappy | try now :) |
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11:55.30 | andre__ | yepp, works. thanks |
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12:22.06 | SRabbelier|Lappy | andre__: timeline is working again |
12:22.57 | andre__ | thanks |
12:23.06 | andre__ | and I managed to get my first mentors. thanks for the help! :) |
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12:25.51 | SRabbelier|Lappy | andre__: woot :) |
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14:58.33 | c_schmitz | so how would I go about adding mentors? |
15:02.11 | SRabbelier|Lappy | c_schmitz: they have to create a profile at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/mentor/google/gci2011 |
15:03.18 | c_schmitz | k |
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16:11.10 | Alex11223 | Good evening. Can someone explain more about "You must demonstrate the consent of a parent or legal guardian in order to be eligible to receive any prizes as well as written proof of age and proof of enrollment in a pre-university, high school or secondary school program." , what and when I must demonstrate? |
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16:26.27 | Alex11223 | is someone here?) |
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16:33.31 | sfb | Alex11223: A lot of people are here. |
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16:34.54 | sfb | Alex11223: Google will ask for proof before you claim any prizes. |
16:35.55 | Alex11223 | what is claim? after contest ends in January? |
16:36.28 | sfb | I believe that is correct. |
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17:30.07 | carols | serves some tea and cookies |
17:30.25 | Catfish_Man | g'morning carols :) |
17:30.32 | carols | good morning Catfish_Man :-) |
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18:16.20 | gevaerts | Yay, coffee! |
18:16.35 | carols | :-) |
18:17.07 | weltall | and chocolates |
18:17.21 | gevaerts | Ah, yes. We always need more chocolate :) |
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18:23.53 | ppujal | Need a teleporter engine, if not, the coffe will arrive cold ;) |
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18:25.15 | weltall | :P |
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20:01.30 | spectie | are there any posters for GCI ? |
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20:10.28 | SRabbelier | carols would konw |
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20:21.25 | ppujal | Am I missing something or we can't still add tasks? |
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20:24.12 | SRabbelier | ppujal: you're missing something |
20:24.16 | SRabbelier | ppujal: what's the problem? |
20:24.47 | ppujal | Don't find a link to the page to add the task |
20:25.24 | SRabbelier | ppujal: you're logged in as org admin? |
20:26.44 | ppujal | How Can I confirm this?, I am logged but don't know as what |
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20:27.45 | SRabbelier | ppujal: what's your sidebar say on the left? is there an "Org Admin Dashboard" entry? |
20:28.18 | ppujal | Nopes, only "My Dashboard" |
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20:30.05 | ppujal | Mentors can't fill tasks as last year? |
20:31.54 | Arc | for me "My Dashboard" and "Org Admin Dashboard" are the same url |
20:32.03 | SRabbelier | Arc: truly? curious |
20:32.25 | SRabbelier | ppujal: eh, you probably can if you ask your org admin for the url he uses to create new tasks |
20:32.34 | Arc | yea both are http://www.google-melange.com/gci/dashboard/google/gci2011 |
20:32.51 | SRabbelier | Arc: curious indeed |
20:33.06 | ppujal | SRabbelier: Thanks, I will mail him |
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20:53.53 | andre__ | I am admin. I'd also like to be mentor. How can I do that? |
20:54.04 | andre__ | If I ask another admin to invite me, he gets ‘User andreklapper already has mentor role for this program.’ |
20:54.12 | andre__ | but I don't see myself in the dropdown for creating new tasks |
20:54.17 | Nightrose | andre__: SRabbelier is just fixing that for me :D |
20:54.31 | manugupt1 | andre__: Its by default I guess |
20:54.31 | andre__ | hah! :-D |
20:54.33 | SRabbelier | andre__: might you be so good as to try agian now? :) |
20:54.50 | Nightrose | SRabbelier: worksforme |
20:54.52 | SRabbelier | (to assign yourself to a task) |
20:54.52 | Nightrose | thanks! |
20:54.57 | SRabbelier | victory dance |
20:55.01 | andre__ | yeah, thanks :) |
20:55.04 | SRabbelier | yeah |
20:55.10 | SRabbelier | we have denormalized our database a bit |
20:55.21 | Nightrose | scary... |
20:55.26 | Nightrose | ;-) |
20:55.41 | SRabbelier | and I'd forgotten some fields when creating an admin from the org application |
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20:56.16 | SRabbelier | that is, your org_admin_for list had the org, but the "is_org_admin" wasn't set, nor was "is_mentor", and the "mentor_for" list wasn't filled either |
20:56.25 | SRabbelier | fixed that right up |
20:56.30 | SRabbelier | on the interactive console |
20:56.33 | SRabbelier | with transactions too |
21:02.53 | ppujal | Just to be sure, If I click on My Dashboard and there it says "Participant dashboard" does this meant that I am logged as student instead of mentor? |
21:04.00 | andre__ | something like "task successfully created" or so would be really nice. :-/ |
21:04.20 | SRabbelier | ppujal: there's no way to be a student yet |
21:04.23 | andre__ | plus as my bulk import does not work, a "failure" message would also be welcome at least. need to go to the tasks overview to find out that it didn't work |
21:04.26 | andre__ | sighs |
21:04.37 | SRabbelier | andre__: I thought there was an error message |
21:05.02 | SRabbelier | c_schmitz in #melange got one |
21:05.03 | andre__ | hmm. not for me. |
21:05.18 | SRabbelier | andre__: please create a http://tinyurl.com/new-issue for both of those |
21:05.26 | SRabbelier | those are both fixable |
21:05.40 | SRabbelier | but I really need to do some thesis work now |
21:05.43 | andre__ | once I'm more or less done with importing. A bit under time pressure :) |
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21:13.06 | manugupt1 | Hmm.. strange How do I invite a mentor.. If I add the mentor, I get a message username or mentor not found, and the mentor is not able to create a profile of his own |
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21:14.31 | Nightrose | manugupt1: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/mentor/google/gci2011 |
21:15.07 | manugupt1 | diamond_gr: Look at the link Nightrose sent you please |
21:15.09 | manugupt1 | thanks Nightrose |
21:15.14 | Nightrose | np |
21:15.47 | diamond_gr | Got it. Thanks |
21:15.57 | andre__ | where did the "Quality Assurance" category go on the "Create Task" page? or does my browser render with a font and css designs that hide it? |
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21:26.46 | SRabbelier | andre__: oh |
21:26.48 | SRabbelier | maybe I killed it earlier |
21:27.33 | andre__ | If so: I want it back! :P |
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21:35.44 | spectie | hmm |
21:35.55 | spectie | should we be able to add tasks already ? |
21:36.10 | carols | spectie: yes |
21:36.14 | spectie | hmm |
21:36.20 | spectie | ok |
21:36.27 | spectie | probably a problem on our end then |
21:37.04 | carols | should be under "my dashboard" |
21:37.26 | spectie | i just see 'My organization applications' |
21:39.49 | SRabbelier | spectie: org admin dashboard in particular |
21:39.53 | SRabbelier | spectie: are you an org admin? |
21:40.10 | spectie | i should be, but it is possible that i am not |
21:40.19 | spectie | if i were not org admin would i see "my organisation applications" |
21:40.26 | spectie | with this years application in ? |
21:40.35 | SRabbelier | spectie: yes, you might have filled out the application but that doesn't mean you created the org |
21:40.43 | SRabbelier | spectie: what's your link_id? |
21:41.12 | spectie | francis.tyers |
21:44.10 | SRabbelier | spectie: you sure that's your username? |
21:44.23 | SRabbelier | spectie: ah, well |
21:44.32 | SRabbelier | spectie: you didn't create your org did you? |
21:45.06 | SRabbelier | nvm |
21:45.16 | SRabbelier | I can't find anyone with that username |
21:45.42 | spectie | hmm |
21:45.53 | spectie | joregan (jim o'regan) did |
21:45.58 | spectie | SRabbelier, hmm |
21:46.04 | spectie | i'm sorry for being a bit dense here |
21:46.16 | spectie | if i log in with my gsoc/gmail/google account |
21:46.23 | spectie | do i need to make a new profile |
21:46.28 | spectie | if i was in gsoc/gci last year ? |
21:46.39 | SRabbelier | spectie: yes you do, and you need to ask joregan to invite you as admin |
21:46.45 | spectie | ok |
21:46.49 | SRabbelier | spectie: go to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/profile/org_admin/google/gci2011 to create your profile |
21:47.00 | spectie | but if i'm not an org admin |
21:47.05 | spectie | why can i see "my organisation applications" ? |
21:47.08 | spectie | or can everyone see them ? |
21:47.26 | SRabbelier | spectie: you can see that because you filled one out and/or were listed as a co-admin |
21:47.30 | spectie | ok |
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21:47.42 | spectie | and if i was listed as co-admin do i need to get him to invite me as admin ? |
21:48.49 | SRabbelier | spectie: eh, if you create a profile I can manually do it but it'd be easier if you ask him to invite you, yes |
21:49.20 | spectie | ok |
21:49.21 | spectie | 'sec |
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21:51.41 | spectie | done it |
21:53.29 | SRabbelier | spectie: can you ask him to do the invite? |
21:53.36 | andre__ | is there any way to see if my HTML markup in the tasks' descriptions makes sense (preview)? or is that also validated when entering a task? |
21:53.56 | SRabbelier | andre__: QA has made its reappearnace |
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21:54.21 | spectie | SRabbelier, yes, have done |
21:54.23 | spectie | he's offline atm |
21:54.25 | spectie | but i've emailed him |
21:54.26 | andre__ | SRabbelier, yay, thank you. Means I can import a few more tasks :) |
21:54.43 | SRabbelier | spectie: ok, let me know if you have any problems |
21:54.50 | SRabbelier | andre__: sorry about that, deleted it earlier by accident :) |
21:55.04 | andre__ | hehe. no problem. busy times for everybody :) |
21:56.38 | SRabbelier | ppujal: you still around? |
21:58.23 | ppujal | Yes, I am entering my first task :) |
21:58.26 | andre__ | SRabbelier: works, but UI has a glitch: after adding a QA task and getting the "*?validated" view, there is one enabled "QA" field at the top of the "Type" list, and suddenly another one at the bottom |
21:58.45 | SRabbelier | ppujal: can you send me a screenshot of your dashboard? |
21:58.58 | SRabbelier | !screenshot | ppujal |
21:58.58 | gsocbot | ppujal: "screenshot" is Please provide a screenshot illustrating your problem, we recommend http://www.awesomescreenshot.com for easy screenshotting. |
21:59.22 | SRabbelier | oh bugger |
21:59.36 | SRabbelier | broils madrazr slowly |
22:00.10 | SRabbelier | andre__: how about now? |
22:03.26 | andre__ | SRabbelier, "QA" moved to the bottom of the list and everything is fine now |
22:03.39 | SRabbelier | andre__: yay |
22:06.16 | mang0 | When're the challenges going to be listed as a page for GCI? on the 21st, when the comp opens? |
22:06.25 | carols | mang0: yes |
22:07.09 | ppujal | SRabbelier: Seems working now, anyway here is the screenshot: |
22:07.11 | ppujal | http://hornol.no-ip.org/screenshot_GCI_dashboard.png |
22:07.16 | mang0 | carols: Ty. |
22:07.20 | carols | yw |
22:08.02 | SRabbelier | ppujal: ah you got made org admin in the meanwhile, sneaky fellow |
22:11.01 | SRabbelier | ppujal: you sure you were mentor before? |
22:12.37 | ppujal | I am not sure about nothing :), I simply follow a html link provided by one of the admins to create the account |
22:12.56 | ppujal | I thouth I were mentor |
22:14.03 | ppujal | now the main admin has sent an admin invitation, so i've accepted |
22:14.04 | SRabbelier | ppujal: ah, ok :P |
22:14.09 | SRabbelier | ppujal: ok np |
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22:39.48 | spectie | two quick questions: must the task titles be only in english, or can they be bilingual |
22:39.54 | spectie | and can the descriptions be bilingual too ? |
22:40.19 | carols | spectie: only in english, sorry. the contest is being administered in english |
22:40.26 | carols | we have to make sure we can moderate everything |
22:40.31 | carols | and i only speak english :-) |
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22:41.08 | gevaerts | offers to teach carols another language |
22:41.53 | spectie | carols, ok |
22:42.02 | spectie | carols, are we allowed to provide translations ? |
22:42.08 | spectie | of the task descriptions ? |
22:42.18 | spectie | e.g. on our wiki |
22:44.04 | carols | thanks gevaerts :-) |
22:44.11 | carols | spectie: on your wiki? sure |
22:44.14 | spectie | ok |
22:44.57 | spectie | we have been doing a lot of outreach in russia, and lots of the kids there speak very little english |
22:45.16 | spectie | so we have some tasks in russian: http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Task_ideas_for_Google_Code-in/Russian |
22:45.33 | carols | ok, that's fine, i just need to be able to moderate out spam if needed |
22:45.40 | carols | and that means administering it in english |
22:45.53 | spectie | no problem |
22:45.58 | spectie | i completely understand |
22:46.15 | carols | great :-) |
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