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00:00.15madrazrPilif12p: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=217 is our excuse :)
00:00.22Pilif12pah
00:00.27madrazrRead the last line of the bug report carefully :P
00:03.35variable<PROTECTED>
00:03.36variablehaha
00:04.15madrazrvariable: :)
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01:09.32Pwnnagee
01:09.37Pwnnagit svn really takes a while =x
01:12.54variablePwnna: I compiled gcc _twice_ during the time git svn was running
01:12.58variableI still had leftover time
01:13.22wkoszekhttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7114287
01:13.43wkoszekSomething wrong is going here? Why there are 4 people who have claimed the task and unclaimed it right away?
01:15.42variablemadrazr: and/or SRabbelier it would be nice to have a "reason" section for when people unclaim a task
01:16.03madrazrvariable: that is exactly why we have the comments section
01:16.39variablehas not seen the site from the user's side
01:20.32Pwnnavariable: lawl
01:20.33Pwnnanice
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01:39.47theboltMorning
01:44.13variablemoin thebolt
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02:33.26Pwnnawhy is it that i can't upload?
02:34.06Pwnnastatus of the task is claimrequested
02:34.09Pwnnadoes it have to be approved? o.O
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02:56.53nafcool_can anyone tell me how to compile hedgewars on windows or on ubuntu?
02:59.23nafcool_unC0Rr plz help..
02:59.38Pwnnao.o rtfm?
03:02.04Pwnna:D?
03:02.16nafcool_heyy anyone?
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04:51.23gnarulaMorning everyone!
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05:02.59manugupt1morning gnarula
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05:17.26halilpkHi ! Good morning...
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05:21.57firespeakerSRabbelier: someone in my org tells me you're the one to ask to get a GCI import completed
05:22.18firespeakerthat is, an import of tasks into melange
05:22.40firespeakerhe's in here, though; I wonder if he's already asked
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06:44.31matessimHey
06:44.46matessimI have a question about the GCIN
06:45.13matessimWhat is the time frame for tasks moving from claimrequested to claimed?
06:46.27matessimAnyone?
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06:49.56matessimsigh
06:58.49madrazrmatessim: it depends on various things
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06:59.19matessimmadrazr, are there any guidelines?
06:59.22madrazrmatessim: of which one important factor is the availability of mentors
06:59.28madrazrmatessim: guidelines for what?
06:59.38madrazrmatessim: NOTE: GCI is a global program
06:59.51matessimI'm aware of that(I'm not american)
06:59.52madrazrmatessim: people are in all sorts of timezones
07:00.07madrazrwhen you are awake all your mentors may be sleeping
07:00.20matessimAh, i see your point :).
07:00.34madrazrmatessim: being an American or European or Asian doesn't matter
07:00.51madrazrmatessim: what matters is whether the mentors assigned for your task are active
07:00.52madrazr:)
07:01.08matessimYeah i was responding to your note, i thought you were stating a random fact :).
07:01.54matessimJust one more question, does the difficulty/Time frame of a task effect its "value" as a finished task? or are all finished tasks equal
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07:06.35madrazrmatessim: time doesn't
07:07.18madrazrmatessim: difficulty: I am not very sure
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07:07.49madrazrmatessim: btw about the random fact, most of the people are not crazy to state random facts
07:07.50madrazr:)
07:08.34matessim:)
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08:42.28DragooonSRabbelier - if I manually go to the finished_tasks link, I get the current finished tasks list right?
08:42.40DragooonI mean it should be working fine right??
08:42.44Dragooon?*
08:42.50SRabbelierDragooon: sure
08:43.48Dragooonokay
08:44.02Dragooonthanks
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08:48.08DragooonSRabbelier - is the multiple claim bug fixed?
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10:24.25issyl0How do I see the tasks I've done?
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10:27.53SRabbelierDragooon: yes
10:27.56SRabbelierissyl0: not yet
10:28.05issyl0OK.
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11:55.55DragooonSRabbelier - Any idea on when the dashboard will be working again?
11:56.13SRabbelierDragooon: what do you mean with working again?
11:56.34DragooonI can't see my completed tasks
11:59.20n3fI guess they'll be on the dasboard when implemented?
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13:20.26joancreusppujal: i have finished the tux typing translation. the doubt i have is whether CPM (characters per minute) should be translated to CPM and WPM to PPM.
13:26.02ppujaljoancreus: This is not serious :) you have finished the task before I get noticed you had claimed ;)
13:26.51joancreusppujal: i first downloaded to see how it was, and there weren't many strings, so when i finished i noticed i hadn't claimed yet.
13:26.58ppujalCPM->CPM and WPM->PPM seems right to me
13:29.09ppujalSRabbelier: What about automatic task suscription for mentors?
13:29.23SRabbelierppujal: it's being worked on
13:30.37ppujalThanks, and thanks for all the work  allpeople here is doing :)
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13:32.27SRabbeliernp :)
13:33.59andre__I know there's bigger issues, but does anybody work on fixing the message threading / references header for the mail triggered by task changes? it's quite hard to follow if I cannot see what has happened before in the last hours.
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13:37.06GanymedesHey, if i finished a task and submitted it for review
13:37.15Ganymedescan i already request to claim a new one?
13:37.29Ganymedesor will it override and drop my task(Meaning i need to wait until it gets approved?)
13:37.47joancreusGanymedes: do like me, and start thinking on the next one ;)
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13:40.57Ganymedeswell, i had the mistake of taking a translation gig
13:41.12Ganymedesit was pretty horrible, since i had to do it in github format... and i was translating to hebrew
13:41.16Ganymedestook me 10% of the time to translate
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13:41.26Ganymedes90% of the time to format the LTR and RTL to not look extremely awkward.
13:42.06GanymedesI'll be looking for a Java task soon though
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13:42.18Ganymedesjoan, what are you working on?
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13:44.17joancreusGanymedes: translation to catalan and code
13:44.20joancreusGanymedes:
13:44.37joancreusgot to go
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13:58.56Ganymedesthe task list is so spammy
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14:11.28kaisighs and reads more raphaël.js sources
14:12.02hzenginHi, Can mentors still add tasks?
14:12.40Ivanovichzengin: last year it was possible to add new tasks all the time
14:12.49Ganymedeslvanovic
14:12.54Ganymedesso the task list isn't growing?
14:12.56kaithey just won't be published  :)
14:13.12Ganymedesits going to deplete through these 60 days
14:13.15Ganymedeswithout being updated?
14:13.34ppujalThis year we have two waves of tasks
14:13.43hzenginI know that Ivanovic but i want to know it is still valid
14:13.58ppujalbut this week I think we can still add tasks for the first wave
14:14.43Ganymedesppujal, what project/organization are you mentoring?
14:15.14ppujal#tux3kids
14:15.23ppujal*tux4kids XD
14:15.38Ganymedesokay, cool :).
14:15.40Ganymedesis it just me
14:15.41Ganymedesor are there
14:15.45Ganymedessooooo many duplicates?
14:15.57ppujal???
14:16.08Ganymedesduplicate tasks
14:16.20Ganymedesor just 500 different tasks for basically the same thing
14:17.35kaiif the task is "fix a <difficulty> bug", that's an artifact of how GCI works this year ;)
14:17.45IvanovicGanymedes: if you want to have several people on testing a similar thing, you need several tasks
14:17.47ppujalWe had splitted easy but repetitive jobs in different tasks
14:18.23Ganymedesi see.
14:18.51ppujalso instead of "fix warnings for magic tools" you had fix warnings for magictool a,  magictool b and so on
14:19.11Ganymedesi have another question that i asked before and nobody answered, i have a task now that i finished and is needsreview i think, can i request to claim a new task already or do i have to wait for response/closure of the previous task?
14:19.25Ganymedesalso thanks for that explenation
14:23.08ppujalLast year you coudn't claim a task if you had open another.
14:23.52Drumm96ppujal, Hey. You're the Tux4kids guy right?
14:24.14Drumm96Just looked up, you are. I'm Dominic
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14:25.17ppujalOnly a mentor
14:26.00Drumm96Yeah, I half recognise your GCI handle: perepujal.
14:26.02ppujalHi Dominic, Have to return to work now
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14:26.12Drumm96Okay, later bud.
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14:46.00Drumm96Chosen a name yet?
14:46.52LaserWraithI already had a nick here, just forgot the nickserv details :P
14:47.03Drumm96;P
14:48.35gavinatkinsonvariable: pong
14:49.42Drumm96ping?
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14:50.15Drumm96ping pong
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14:51.07variablegavinatkinson: typically my pings have a TTL of about 15 minutes :)
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14:57.09n3fwhy do people claim tasks if they unclaim it minutes thereafter? :(
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14:58.02LaserWraithProbably they see how hard it is. :P
14:59.08LaserWraithAnyone have any ideas for what I should do?  I basically only know a little Java (from a while back), HTML/CSS/Javascript, and PHP and MySQL.
15:00.05variableLaserWraith: look for the documentation and/or outreach projects.   FreeBSD has one where you get to use VirtualBox and a make a youtube video :)
15:00.14Drumm96http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7114259 PHP you say?
15:00.26Drumm96LimeSurvey have LOADS of PHP stuff
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15:00.46LaserWraithAh, thanks
15:01.14LaserWraithI'm like, I can't find an solve some bug in VLC in 24 hours :)
15:01.19variableLaserWraith: There is another one FreeBSD has about converting text files to SQL statements
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15:02.03variableLaserWraith: take a look at the different projects, even ones written in C. Not all of them require coding :)
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15:53.14andre__Is there a way to add further mentors to a task once that task is claimed? Cannot see a reason why that should be bad :)
15:54.26SRabbelierandre__: yes
15:54.51andre__...as I cannot edit tasks that have been claimed (I can understand why it's normally bad, of course)
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15:57.39andre__SRabbelier, now did "yes" mean "yes, it's possible" or "yes, it should be possible but isn't"? ;)
15:59.04SRabbelierandre__: the latter
15:59.11andre__ok
15:59.56SRabbelierandre__: allowing editing mentors after a task is published is on our TODO list before monday next :)
16:00.07andre__uh yay
16:00.08Drumm96Anybody else feel like there's more documentation and translation tasks than programming tasks?
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16:03.41andre__Drumm96, might be
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16:06.01Ganymedesdrumm96, i do
16:06.02andre__is there a way that I (admin) can change the "unapproved" status of tasks?
16:06.21Ganymedesfrom what i saw
16:06.22andre__(as one mentor did not check mail over the weekend and just registered)
16:06.26Ganymedesthere's very little diversity there
16:06.33Ganymedesnearly all the coding tasks are
16:06.34Ganymedesfix a bug
16:06.55andre__Ganymedes, what are your expectations? You can always talk to organizations and ask for specific tasks for the second round on Dec16
16:06.57Ganymedesi mean, i think that a good task is tasks like VLC's write a line of assembly
16:07.12Ganymedesthey offer guidance also on their IRC
16:07.24Ganymedesasking people 13-17 who it might be their first experience on a OSS project
16:07.26Ganymedesto fix bugs
16:07.33Ganymedessounds a bit odd to me
16:08.02GanymedesTeens who might not have the first clue on how to do it(The guidelines are usually here's the code, here's the bug forum, cheers)
16:08.49Ganymedesi saw some tasks even said they won't be marked as closed until the code is commited to the actual project.
16:08.58Drumm96The compiler warnings are pretty good fun though ain't they Gany ;)
16:09.01Ganymedesi don't know, it might just be me, but it seems a bit demanding
16:09.19Ganymedesi saw something with compiler warnings, haven't opened it yet, been waiting for hours for my first task to come through.
16:09.48Drumm96Ganymedes, it's simple. I've done quite a few of them.
16:09.58GanymedesI won't be doing Hebrew translation anymore i think, it took me a bit of time to translate, but the RTL LTR compatibility with the tags in the format they asked me to deliever it in(for github) took forever to look normal
16:10.24Drumm96I don't even know another language, but I'm also not on this project to translate strings
16:10.25GanymedesDrumm96, are closed tasks automatically counted in your favor?
16:10.28Ganymedesor is there some sort of review
16:10.43GanymedesWell, i thought its something that could actually help
16:10.51Ganymedesdocumentation on hebrew on pretty much alot of projects
16:10.58Ganymedesis sprase/nonexistant
16:11.24GanymedesBut i'm a Java developer mostly(Did some Android too), but i can't seem to find any java projects.
16:11.24Drumm96Ganymedes, if it's closed, then it has been reviewed.
16:11.39Drumm96OpenIntents have some Android stuff
16:11.42Drumm96I'm a C dev.
16:12.07Ganymedeshow have you finished a few already? I've been waiting like 8 hours just for my first one to close ^_^
16:12.12Ganymedesand i have a feeling i'll be waiting some more
16:12.26Drumm96The mentor on mine is at his computer quite often I think :)
16:12.44Ganymedeshow many have you completed so far?
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16:13.52Ganymedesargghhh i want to do one of the VLC write a assembly line but i can't until this task gets closed
16:14.07Ganymedesi will go apesh if for some reason they won't close it ^_^.
16:16.05gevaertsGanymedes: have you tried to contact people from the relevant organisation on irc (or their preferred communication system)?
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16:16.29GanymedesNope, where can i find their preffered communication system?
16:16.42Ganymedesor should i just go onto some offical-e Perl IRC and ask there
16:18.25gevaertsThat's one way. The other is the email address (probably a list) that they should have listed on their GCI profile page
16:19.38Ganymedesit might be infront of my face, but i don't see any contact information/link to a profile
16:19.38Ganymedeshttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7116331
16:21.46gevaertsHm, no back link indeed apparently
16:22.08gevaertshttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/google/gci2011/tpf has contact information
16:22.35Ganymedes^_^ the contact us 404's
16:23.58andre__do the GCI profile pages work now? Clicking the links of names in tasks doesn't do anything here
16:24.05gevaertsRight. They didn't use a proper mailto url apparently and just typed the email address. Looking at the html seems to show it's tpf-gsoc-students@googlegroups.com
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16:24.38Ganymedesyeah saw that
16:24.39Ganymedesbut
16:24.41gevaertsandre__: not here either, but the links on the org list work
16:24.44Ganymedesi'm already running through IRC's
16:24.52Ganymedesconstantly getting pointed at different people lol
16:25.02Ganymedesfound a mentor, he pointed me to another irc
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16:28.14Souvikis Jumpyshoes, Jason Garrett-Glaser, or Jean-Baptiste Kempf here?
16:28.33Drumm96Somebody wants to work for VLC ;)
16:28.45GanymedesThats what i said :P
16:28.57Souvik:P
16:29.04Souvikyeah, I signed up for the assembly thing
16:29.58Drumm96I would like to do a bit of ASM actually
16:30.16Drumm96It's been on my todo list, if the GCI wasn't on I'd be learning ASM
16:30.31GanymedesI'm totally gonna do it
16:30.44gevaertsGanymedes: I'd say 13:35 UTC isn't really 8 hours ago yet
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16:33.08nathan0n5ire@Ganymedes, this is one of your mentors facebook profile I believe https://www.facebook.com/perldition
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16:35.12nathan0n5ireGanymedes and I think this http://www.pjcj.net/ is the homepage of the other ( the site includes his email )
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16:39.45nathan0n5ireganymedes here's also a page for your first mentor, that includes a email https://github.com/rafl
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16:42.02raflblinks
16:42.09raflhow come i'm being stalked? :)
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16:42.45rafloh, right.
16:42.51raflall's good. Ganymedes found us in #gci over on irc.perl.org
16:46.34GanymedesYeah, the nice guy over there said he'll try and get the guy who knows hebrew to check my work
16:46.34Ganymedeslol
16:48.09gevaertsGanymedes: this might be surprising at first, but you wouldn't believe how many people try to be helpful by providing translations done using google translate or something like that
16:48.19gevaertsSo some sort of checking is quite essential
16:48.43Ganymedesyeah i can imagine.
16:48.46Ganymedesthat sucks
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16:48.50Ganymedespeople should get banned from the comp for that
16:49.08gevaertsIt even happens without any sort of competition or payment
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16:51.00Ganymedeswell, lets hope they won't false positive
16:51.04Ganymedesanyone
16:51.18Ganymedesi think its obvious my translation isn't automated, i doubt it would make sense if i tried that
16:51.45Ganymedesi'll just have to wait for the guy i guess
16:52.05Ganymedesalthough, i'll definitely not be doing anymore translation through gcin
16:52.06Ganymedeslol
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16:54.34jrabbitis there a ticket on GCI hard tasks not having a colored gear?
16:54.43jrabbitthe easy and medium ones have green/yelllow
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17:04.20jrabbitalso last year you could see a leaderboard is that nonexistant this year?
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17:08.46mang0carols: Sorry for being a bit of an idiot yesterday. I was really exited and stuff :)
17:08.55carolsmang0: it's fine
17:09.06laurionhey!
17:09.09mang0carols: :)
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17:09.36carols:-)
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17:10.23laurioncarols, are you THE Carol Smith from gci?
17:10.33carolslaurion: yes
17:10.41laurionoh cool
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17:11.38laurionwanted to ask you, how many tasks can be added by an org?
17:11.56carolslaurion: as many as they want, but they're only published on nov. 21 and dec. 16
17:13.12laurion:(
17:14.03carolsis something wrong?
17:14.25laurionbecause for example at gnome-ro, there are only a few left and only easy or mediun
17:14.31laurionmedium:(
17:14.43carolslaurion: so why not try a different org? there's over 2600 tasks in the list right now
17:15.19sfbcarols: Is the split publishing something new this year? I don't remember having that limitation last year..
17:15.35carolssfb: yes, it is. we had a lot of trouble last year with orgs, students, and tasks
17:15.42laurioni worked last year too and i was familiar with them and... you know i hoped i could work now too but i have to wait until Dec 16
17:16.03Underyxhey, guys, I've been here yesterday and reported a bug which makes me unable to mark my current task as complete, and I submit my work URL normally either
17:16.12carolslaurion: i still don't understand why you have to wait until dec. 16? there's 2600 tasks you can pick from
17:16.17Underyxcan anyone tell me if there's any progress on solving that?
17:16.26carolsUnderyx: have you spoken to the guys in #melange?
17:16.40UnderyxI spoke with madrazr (hope I remember his name correctly)
17:16.53carolsyeah, bugs with the software can be discussed in that channel
17:16.59Underyxhe said he would look into it, but my net connection died shortly afterwards
17:17.08carolsthen he's probably looking into it :-)
17:17.38Underyxyeah, alright, I just thought I would ask if he said he needs any more information or something
17:17.56carolsyou're more than welcome to speak to him about that directly, of course.
17:17.58laurioncarols, i have to wait for that kind of tasks
17:18.24laurionof course i can do others in between
17:18.41carolslaurion: sure, do lots of other ones :-)
17:19.15callamdelaneyHow do we get paid for this?:P
17:19.42laurionsure, it's just that it would have been nice to have more like those both now, and after dec 16
17:19.59MatthewWilkescallamdelaney: Sealed brown envelope, exchanged at midnight
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17:20.41carolscallamdelaney: you'll be sent a prepaid credit card
17:20.46carolsonce you've submitted your forms
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17:20.51carolsand after the contest ends
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17:21.30MatthewWilkesprefers his way
17:21.38carolsof course you do, MatthewWilkes :-)
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17:21.50gevaertsMatthewWilkes: the sealed brown envelope can have a credit card in it :)
17:22.37MatthewWilkesyeah, but it dae
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17:23.56callamdelaneyOkay thats cool
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17:36.21Drumm96Can cash be taken from a prepaid card?
17:36.23firespeakerhow do I get an import of tasks into melange approved?
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17:38.12carolsDrumm96: yes, from an atm
17:38.26carolsfirespeaker: approved? you mean a patch for melange?
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17:42.29joancreuswhat does "This page is inactive at this time." mean?
17:42.39carolsjoancreus: it's inactive at this time.
17:42.49Souvikhehe
17:43.12joancreuscarols: hmm i got a message saying it was "Reopened", and the link said this
17:43.38carolsjoancreus: a good discussion to have with SRabbelier or in #melange, methinks
17:44.05SRabbeliermh?
17:45.08carolsSRabbelier: joancreus had a question
17:45.49SRabbelier!moredata | joancreus
17:45.50gsocbotjoancreus: "moredata" is Please provide more data on your problem, have you tried turning it off and on again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0
17:47.10joancreusSRabbelier: the thing is, i first claimed the task, at then i have received a message saying the task was reopenened. when i clicked the link to the task, i got that "inactive" message
17:47.19joancreusi believe that it is because that task was repeated
17:47.26joancreus*that is
17:47.35joancreusand there were two which were the same
17:47.42joancreusso one may have been cancelled
17:47.55SRabbelierjoancreus: sounds like they deleted teh copy
17:47.59joancreuswhat i don't know is if i can claim the other one
17:48.05joancreusbecause it might break the rules
17:48.10joancreus(only one task at the same time)
17:48.48SRabbelierjoancreus: you won't be able to claim a second task if the system thinks you have claimed one alreayd
17:48.56SRabbelierjoancreus: so if you can claim a new task the other one is no longer claimed by you
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17:49.04joancreusbut wasn't there a bug? (gci-discuss)
17:49.10joancreusthat allowed multiple claims?
17:49.23joancreusanyway, i'll go ahead and claim the other one
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17:50.56Drumm96Oh, Well that messes up my plan. I thought I'd claimed 2.
17:51.34Drumm96If it's under review what happens?
17:52.42carolsDrumm96: your mentor decides if it meets the criteria and either tells you it needs more work or marks it complete
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17:54.09nathan0n5irewhat happens if your mentor never shows up to mark your task as complete?
17:54.35Drumm96carols: I know that. But if I have claimed another task whilst one is under review?
17:54.36OrangerBe with me students \o/ I'm your friend \o/ *go out*
17:55.07carolsDrumm96: you tell SRabbelier so he can fix it for you
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17:56.32Drumm96I'm not even sure now. I've completed a task, that no longer seems to exist. So maybe I lost it and somebody else completed it.
17:57.39Drumm96So somebody else is redoing, already done work.. Lol
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17:59.42firespeakercarols: not a patch, no
17:59.53carolsfirespeaker: then i don't understand your question.
18:00.10firespeaker(16:35:37) spectie: we need to ask srebellerlr on #gsoc to run the import on mélange
18:00.30carolsfirespeaker: ah, ok, then SRabbelier it is :-)
18:00.31firespeakerspectie supposedly bulk imported some tasks
18:00.35firespeakerbut they haven't appeared yet
18:00.37firespeakerokay, thanks
18:00.53SRabbelierfirespeaker: doign so
18:01.01firespeakerSRabbelier: cool, thanks :)
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18:02.20SRabbelierfirespeaker: it's running, should be done in a minute
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18:16.36issyl0Hi - is there anyone from OpenIntents here?
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18:22.09mang0YeyaSwizaw :D
18:22.18mang0I got my extension; 24 hours :D
18:22.22YeyaSwizawNice :)
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18:34.12JumpyshoesSouvik: #x264dev #libav-devel
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18:48.12Drumm96Jumpyshoes, :) Would I be able to get on the ASM thing?
18:48.32JumpyshoesDrumm96: any student can
18:48.56Drumm96Brilliant, when would the mentoring take place?
18:49.05DragooonASM?
18:49.10Jumpyshoes#x264dev, talk to Dark_Shikari
18:49.14Jumpyshoesthere are asm tutorials
18:49.17Drumm96Thanks.
18:49.20Dragooonoh ok
18:49.25JumpyshoesDragooon: assembly
18:49.31Dragooonyeah
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18:59.41issyl0Is anyone here working on any OpenIntents tasks?
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19:00.11YeyaSwizawI WAS, but someone else did the ticket i was working on so I stopped.
19:00.21issyl0Oh.  :-(
19:00.31YeyaSwizawWhy?
19:00.33issyl0Do you have any contact information for them (IRC or anything)?
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19:00.36YeyaSwizawohhh
19:00.39YeyaSwizawno, sorry
19:00.49issyl0Ok, that's fine.
19:00.52YeyaSwizawtry leaving a comment on the task
19:01.01issyl0Yeah, I will do.  Thanks!
19:01.05YeyaSwizawthat's how they told me stuff
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19:08.05firespeakerSRabbelier: I assume the import's done?  the tasks still aren't appearing
19:08.21SRabbelierfirespeaker: it's been done for a while now
19:08.34firespeakerhmmm
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19:09.06firespeakerdo I need to wait a while for them to appear or something?
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19:10.19firespeakerSRabbelier: either that, or my org screwed something up :\
19:10.25mang0Hey all, why can't I submit a file for a completed task? I get this page: http://temporary-blobstore-error.appspot.com/
19:10.35SRabbelierfirespeaker: I ssupect the latter :D
19:10.58firespeakerSRabbelier: in which case, should I try resubmitting the tasks?
19:11.27SRabbelierfirespeaker: speak to spectie first
19:11.57firespeakerokay, I'll see what I can do
19:12.20mang0carols: Is there a problem with submitting for a task? I've finished it, but I can't upload a file...
19:16.20carolsmang0: you should speak to SRabbelier
19:16.37SRabbeliercarols: yeah we just resolved in #melange
19:16.40mang0carols: Have just been talking to him(her?) in
19:16.43mang0#melange
19:16.43mang0oh
19:16.56carolsgreat, glad to hear it's resolved :-)
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19:33.04Drumm96What t-shirt is it as a prize?
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19:33.51mang0Drumm96: iirc it says "google code in" on it
19:33.57Drumm96Sweet.
19:34.00mang0idkfs though
19:36.36mang0What happens if the mentor doesn't review the submitted work before the time runs out?
19:36.41DragooonCan it say "<NAME> Rocks"?
19:37.31YeyaSwizawDragooon: :D
19:40.50mang0SRabbelier: ---------------------------^
19:41.06SRabbeliermang0: good question
19:41.30mang0SRabbelier: :)
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19:41.39SRabbelierI don't recall off-hand
19:42.08mang0SRabbelier: Ah, okay.
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19:51.25DragooonSo,, how many here are above 10 points?
19:52.02YeyaSwizawI'm -10 points above 10. Does that count?
19:52.18DragooonNope :P
19:52.35YeyaSwizaw:(
19:52.39YeyaSwizaw:D
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19:54.57OrangerDragooon: How can you know your points ? :o
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19:55.35DragooonCalculating from your completed tasks
19:56.07OrangerDragooon: How many points give a task ?
19:56.19DragooonEasy - 1, Medium - 2, Hard - 4
19:56.57Orangeroh ok, good to know it :D
19:57.03OrangerThanks Dragooon :)
19:57.25mang0Well then I have almost 1 point
19:57.26mang0WOOT
19:57.32OrangerSRabbelier: Is the dashboard will contain our finished tasks ? :)
19:57.44SRabbelierOranger: yes
19:57.58OrangerSRabbelier: But not today I guess :p*
19:58.11SRabbelierOranger: why do you need them I'm curious?
19:58.34OrangerSRabbelier: Because I don't remember what kind of tasks I did ^^
19:58.44DragooonSome lousy memory you got man :P
19:58.48SRabbelierOranger: why is that a problem?
19:58.55OrangerSRabbelier: Yes, i'm a red fish :3
19:59.24OrangerSRabbelier: No no it's not a problem, I just like to know in what you are working and what we will get :D
20:00.31OrangerSRabbelier: Yes, i'm curious :3 But it's maybe because I love GCI too :)
20:03.32n3fOranger: you should've been emailed about the task
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20:08.53Orangern3f: email about what ?
20:12.29ppujalDrumm96: Dominique? Still here?
20:12.36Drumm96I am here ppujal :)
20:12.44Drumm96*Dominic ;)
20:13.00ppujalI see you have 2 tasks claimed
20:13.07ppujalSoryy :)
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20:13.17Drumm96Do I ?
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20:13.43Drumm96I have a claim requested on the distortion and emboss? And have completed 2 other tasks.
20:14.09ppujalalien-blind is too claimed by you
20:14.30Drumm96Ah, I didn't think I'd claimed it
20:14.34Drumm96I have the work for both
20:14.39ppujalAnd yes, distortion and emboss too
20:15.26Drumm96I think I need to ask SRabbelier to fix something for me then
20:15.34SRabbelierwhat's that?
20:15.48Drumm96I was told that if I claimed 2 tasks, I need to ask you to fix it.. apparently I have :P
20:16.31Drumm96But I also don't want to lose my place on said tasks, I have already done the work for both
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20:18.54Drumm96Do I need you to fix stuff for me SRabbelier?
20:22.18SRabbelierDrumm96: You should withdraw your claim on one of them
20:22.38Drumm96Okay
20:22.49Drumm96"You are not allowed to operate the button named button_unclaim"
20:23.09Drumm96Worked the second time
20:23.16Drumm96ppujal: Only 1 task is claimed now..
20:23.38Drumm96Thanks SRabbelier.
20:23.49SRabbeliernp
20:25.00ppujalDrumm96: The task is yours alien-blid
20:25.31Drumm96ppujal: work uploaded
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20:26.31Drumm96At least I can say I'm doing something productive whilst out of school.
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20:27.01YeyaSwizaw:D
20:29.08ppujalDrumm96: See my coment on the task
20:29.54Drumm96I hope I haven't wiped my work then :S
20:30.13Drumm96..
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20:30.43Drumm96Tell you what, I'll upload the work for the other one, and then redo the alien one
20:31.44ppujal???
20:32.08Drumm96I'll claim the emboss one, as I for sure have the work for that one
20:32.35Drumm96It appears I wiped the work I did on the blind-alien one, so I'll have to redo it
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20:33.30ppujalAh, ok
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20:33.48Drumm96Sorry about that mate. I must of made an error when copying files.
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20:44.57YeyaSwizaw:D
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20:46.30YeyaSwizawWrong window >.<
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20:47.41mang0SRabbelier: Weird discovery; both me nor YeyaSwizaw could post up our work, but when we submitted both the file and the link (dropbox) we both managed to upload....
20:47.45mang0runs back to his homework
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20:48.34Drumm96should look at his homework
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20:49.02YeyaSwizawDrumm96: only if it's in for tomorrow :p
20:49.12YeyaSwizawThat's my strategy :p
20:49.15Drumm96I ALWAYS do homework the night before
20:49.31Drumm96I might be able to get away with it, I'm at home because I'm recovering from an operation
20:49.42Drumm96I might not even be in tomorrow still. I wanna go back in, school makes me money
20:49.45Drumm96So does GCI
20:49.51Drumm96GCI makes a lot more though
20:50.01YeyaSwizawIt'd  have to be a pretty mean teacher to get at you for that
20:50.07YeyaSwizawand wait, school makes you money?
20:50.14Drumm96Aye ;) Buy and Sell.
20:50.41Drumm96I sell £20's worth of Chocolate a day
20:51.02Drumm96Somehow I end up with £120 a week however.. but regardless.
20:51.20Drumm96It's about £50-60 profit a week
20:51.40YeyaSwizawMy font appears to not know your currency symbol :(
20:51.45Drumm96GBP
20:51.47YeyaSwizawUnless your currency actually is '?'
20:52.01YeyaSwizawWhy can I not see it then O.o
20:52.04YeyaSwizaw£
20:52.08YeyaSwizawodd
20:53.47thiagoYeyaSwizaw is probably sending in Latin 1
20:56.15Drumm96ppujal: I'll get working on the Alien and Blind now.
20:58.00YeyaSwizawWoo! I've finished a task!
20:58.13Drumm96I've finished 3 YeyaSwizaw ;)
20:58.16YeyaSwizawserves cake and chocolate and stuff to celebrate
20:58.25issyl0Yay!
20:58.30Drumm96Hooray!!!!
20:58.31YeyaSwizawDrumm96: :(
20:58.32Drumm96NOMS
20:58.33YeyaSwizaw:D
20:58.59Drumm96YeyaSwizaw: I'm not in school because I had an operation yesterday. Means I have all day to myself
20:59.36Drumm96I don't think I'm gonna be in tomorrow at this rate. I'm limping like a mofo
20:59.36OrangerDrumm96: You CHEAT !
20:59.40DragooonI am not in school because I got it off :P
20:59.51OrangerDragooon: You CHEAT more !
21:00.05Drumm96Dragooon: Bomb threat phone call?
21:00.31YeyaSwizawI would start another today, but I really need to get this homework done :p
21:00.43YeyaSwizawAlthough I suppose I could claim one.
21:01.19ppujalprepares the supper
21:01.25YeyaSwizawmmm
21:01.28YeyaSwizawsupper
21:04.06Drumm96Cake + Supper + Music + Chocolate + Stuff
21:04.09Drumm96In that order
21:05.23mang0I just had cake
21:05.29mang0Twas my bday on sat
21:05.32mang0still got cake :)
21:05.33mang0brb
21:05.36mang0shower
21:05.43YeyaSwizaw:D
21:05.55YeyaSwizawDrumm96: define 'Super Music'
21:06.11YeyaSwizawoh wait
21:06.14YeyaSwizawsupper + music
21:06.19YeyaSwizawDefine Music
21:06.22YeyaSwizaw:p
21:06.28callamdelaneyJustin bieber is the best artist to code to.
21:06.38callamdelaneyYou can do it in rhythm to the music.
21:06.57Pwnna..
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21:07.24YeyaSwizawcallamdelaney: :D
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21:10.21callamdelaneyWhat is the dashboard for?
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21:13.03YeyaSwizawI think it will show your finished tasks and stuff at some point
21:13.11YeyaSwizawI don't think it does at the moment though
21:13.33callamdelaneyAh
21:13.49callamdelaneyCan you do more than one task at once?
21:14.02apertureNo.
21:15.19callamdelaney#sadface
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21:16.25gevaertsrephrases that question
21:16.40gevaerts"Can you hog all interesting tasks so nobody else can do them?"
21:16.54DragooonNo
21:17.06YeyaSwizaw:D
21:17.06DragooonYou cannot claim more than one task at a time
21:17.26gevaertsDragooon: I actually wanted to illustrate why you can't :)
21:18.10YeyaSwizaw:p
21:19.00callamdelaneyThe task/s i am trying to claim aren't that interesting.
21:21.02Drumm96callamdelaney: Ever listened to the hackers soundtrack?
21:23.38callamdelaneyI have watched the film drumm, but have not listened to the soundtrack separately - great idea.
21:23.50Drumm96It's AMAZING for programming
21:25.07spectieSRabbelier, could you rerun the import when you get a moment ?
21:25.23SRabbelierspectie: sure, did the import not work earlier when firespeaker asked me to?
21:27.03firespeakerpretty sure not
21:27.08SRabbeliershould be done now
21:27.10spectieSRabbelier, no, we think we found the problem though
21:27.23mang0Arghhh
21:27.31mang0My mentor's aren't reviewing
21:27.34mang0continues to wait
21:27.42SRabbelierspectie: ok
21:27.47firespeakerreloads melange and searches
21:28.25firespeakernope :(
21:28.31spectiehmm, i don't see them
21:28.41firespeakerspectie: there must either be a syntax error, or tags must be required
21:28.47spectiei added some tags
21:28.52spectie"[5_144] Tuvan--Russian bilingual dictionary: add 50 adverbs", "Add 50 adverbs to the Tuvan--Russian <a href=""http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/bidix"">bidix</a>.", 48, "ftyers, jnw, hectoralos", Hard, Code, "central asia"
21:28.52spectie<PROTECTED>
21:29.09spectiei don't see any syntax errors
21:29.20firespeakerspectie: try opening with python's csv engine
21:30.32spectieexample?
21:30.56firespeaker>>> import csv
21:30.57firespeaker>>> csv.reader('northern_central_asia.csv')
21:30.57firespeaker<_csv.reader object at 0x9aa6064>
21:31.01firespeakerlooks good to me :\
21:31.08firespeakermust mean tags are required
21:31.15spectieyeah, i saw it
21:31.19spectiebut i added the tags
21:31.24spectiemaybe i can try adding a different tag
21:31.45firespeakeroh wait, that didn't open the file
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21:31.59firespeaker>>> csv.reader(open('northern_central_asia.csv'))
21:32.02firespeakerbut that works too
21:33.04spectieaye
21:33.19leonard_hey there, I am participating at Google Code-In. But I've got a question. I finished my first project. Status now is: NEEDSREVIEW .. Am I allowed to start working on a new task?
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21:33.41carolsleonard_: nope, not until your mentor approves that task
21:34.47leonard_@carols: hm, thats bad.. I accidentally already claimed another task an dgot confirmed just atm.. what should I do now?
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21:36.16carolsleonard_: unclaim that task
21:37.07leonard_if thats all, fine :) Just was asking, not that there were some algorithms, "banning" me now or so ;)
21:37.12gevaertsleonard_: did you claim that a while ago (i.e. sometime yesterday), or recently?
21:37.28gevaertsIf it was recent, I'm sure the melange people would want to know
21:38.05leonard_just about an hour ago or so
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21:38.22gevaertshm, I'm pretty sure that shouldn't be possible
21:38.57leonard_but it was/is.. and I'M still able to claim even more tasks.. (but I didnt do for sure ;))
21:39.12leonard_*(dont do)
21:39.30gevaertssuspects that madrazr or SRabbelier will want to know
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21:40.05madrazrgevaerts: a student claiming more than one task?
21:40.08gevaertsyes
21:40.24madrazrgevaerts: strange, we fixed that bug yesterday
21:40.30SRabbelierweird
21:40.34spectieSRabbelier, can we give i another shot ?
21:40.39gevaertsThe other (existing) task is in NEEDSREVIEW
21:41.03SRabbelierI'm checking
21:41.20SRabbelierspectie: do you have any tasks that are in unpublished or unapproved?
21:41.38spectielet me see
21:41.42spectieno
21:42.35gevaertsmadrazr: yes, that's what I remembered, but leonard_ apparently could do it
21:43.03madrazrgevaerts: super strange
21:43.29madrazrgevaerts: SRabbelier is looking into it
21:43.30callamdelaneyWhat opperating systems are you guys using?
21:43.31leonard_yop, and after my first task is now needsreview, and I claimed a second task (which i now unclaimed) the claim task button wasn't away at other tasks...
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21:43.46leonard_callamdelaney: (arch)linux
21:44.39madrazrleonard_: and you were able to claim second task before it went to NeedsReview?
21:44.47madrazrleonard_: or only after?
21:45.20leonard_Not quite sure whether I was able before, think so at least. But just tried (and succeeded in) after
21:45.31madrazrleonard_: Ok
21:46.26SRabbeliergevaerts: can you link me to both tasks?
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21:46.38alderzdoes the upload system for URLs work?
21:46.47gevaertsSRabbelier: I can't. leonard_ can presumably :)
21:47.26SRabbelierleonard_: same question
21:47.29madrazralderz: not yet
21:47.36leonard_alderz: doesnt work for me too
21:48.38alderzok thanks. It seems that for files it is working.
21:50.50LaserWraithSo how many of you guys are top Google execs? :P
21:51.35summatusmentisI'm pretty sure none of the Google execs hang out here
21:51.56summatusmentisthere are a number of Google employees here though
21:53.20madrazrbrb guys
21:53.27madrazrneed to change rooms
21:53.29madrazr:)
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22:02.23callamdelaneyUploading work seems to be broken
22:03.47andre__again? it worked for a while
22:06.37SRabbelierit shouldn't be possible :P
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22:17.19callamdelaneyanybody else getting an error uploading there work?
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22:19.02Drumm96callamdelaney: I have done, but I retried a few times and it eventually uploaded.
22:22.58callamdelaneyHm - i have tried multiple times drumm
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22:30.05SRabbeliershould be fixed now
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22:37.30science9713Who should I talk to if the mentor for a Code-in task has not looked at a task marked for review?
22:38.11Drumm96How long you waited science9713?
22:38.47science9713Just over 12 hours.
22:41.49Drumm96Do you know who the mentor is?
22:41.55Drumm96Sometimes you need to chase them up
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22:42.58science9713Yeah, I've tried to find the mentor on all of the IRC channels he said he would be on.
22:43.24Drumm96Then all you can do is wait. Perhaps they've been sleeping/working for the past 12 hours.
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22:45.17andre__12 hours is not much, really.
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22:46.08ppujalscience9713: Note that the orgs are suposed to review _at much_ in a lapse of 36 hours
22:46.47ppujaland that other people have lives outside GCI :)
22:47.53Drumm96ppujal: I'll upload the 100% for sure completed task now
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23:22.00spectieSRabbelier, could you try once more to import ? (i've added a separate task not from the original group) to see if that imports and the others don't
23:23.04SRabbelierspectie: do you see any tasks that are Unpublished or Unapproved on your dashboard?
23:23.19spectiei see the new one
23:23.20spectiei added
23:23.31spectienot the kazakh ones
23:24.26spectiewait
23:24.27spectieSRabbelier,
23:24.31spectiethe other ones are there now too!
23:24.56spectiehow do we publish them ?
23:26.04SRabbelierI'll run the MR again and then they'll be published
23:26.13spectiecool thanks !
23:29.30SRabbelierspectie: how about now?
23:29.46spectierefreshing
23:32.36spectieyes!
23:32.37spectie:D
23:32.38spectiethanks !
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