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01:35.33theboltmorning
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01:51.34censorydepevening. ;-)
02:01.35apertureHmm, do mentors have the power to extend a time frame?
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02:05.26madrazraperture: yes
02:06.09apertureokay, thanks!
02:06.13madrazraperture: YW!
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02:43.38madrazrgoing home :)
02:43.42madrazrbrb
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04:04.40Jumpyshoeshello all, my student cannot post links to melange. how do i review his work :)
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08:31.57DragooonSRabbelier - Has there been updates with melange?
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09:45.39issyl0Gah.
09:46.27issyl0OpenIntents haven't responded to my query yet.
09:46.30issyl0Oh well - patience.  :-)
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11:39.35halilpkRonald S. Bultje ?
11:42.41Drumm96halilpk: You might have more luck in x264dev or videolan
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11:53.02halilpkRonald S. Bultje ?
11:56.08ehturanHi everybody
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12:09.08ehturanhailipk?
12:09.17ehturan*hailipk
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12:09.25halilpk"hailipk?" :D
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12:09.32andre__no verb?
12:09.39ehturan*halilpk :D
12:09.51halilpkit is my name
12:09.54halilpk:)
12:10.22andre__!anyone | halilpk
12:10.22gsocbothalilpk: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here>
12:11.02Orangerlove gsocbot <3
12:13.10kai!cookie
12:13.10gsocbotkai: "cookie" is omnomnom
12:16.19Drumm96Anybody want a laugh? Not exactly gsoc related; But quite funny for anybody that likes google: http://androidandme.com/2011/11/news/video-samsung-asks-apple-fans-why-dont-you-guys-just-get-4g-phones/
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12:20.24Drumm96I don't believe how many tasks Apertium have..
12:20.49Drumm96620 Tasks..
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12:23.04DragooonWhat difficulty are they?
12:23.23Drumm96They're all translation tasks. Didn't really look at them
12:23.32Drumm96Just got frustrated whilst loading the task list
12:24.08Dragooonlol
12:24.16DragooonTry loading them org wise, works much better
12:24.58Drumm96I am, A is at the beginning
12:25.39DragooonNo, go to org's homepage and then load the tasks
12:25.49DragooonIt'll only fetch that org's task
12:26.05Drumm96Why does it work "better" ?
12:27.03DragooonBecause instead of fetching 2500 tasks, it only fetches that org's task
12:27.06DragooonWhich are like 100-200
12:27.23Drumm96But you're also limited to a single org
12:28.03DragooonI thought you already had an org at mind, then nevermind
12:28.16Drumm96Nope :P I want to avoid Apertium.
12:28.20Drumm96That's about it
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12:35.53OrangerDragooon: Hey ! :)
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12:45.00DragooonOranger*
12:45.15Oranger^^
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13:04.35izibiwhy can't i submit my work to melange? :/
13:05.05izibii either get an error 500 or just nothing happens
13:05.13izibitried chromium and firefox
13:06.05ppujalwhat kind of work, file or url
13:07.58izibiurl
13:08.59ppujalFrom what I have been seeing here you are not the only
13:10.09ppujalSRabbeler, madrazr  ^
13:10.37ppujal*SRabbellier
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13:12.21ppujalizibi: what about putting the url in a file and commit the file?
13:12.55sagodppujal: yep, I did so
13:13.58sagodHi all! Is it possible to see how many points every students have got?
13:16.10ppujalsagod I think is work in progress
13:17.32sagodppujal thanks
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13:56.32Underyxsorry about that
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16:04.15Drumm96ppujal: You around?
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16:12.56ppujalDrumm96: just few time, Hi!
16:13.51Drumm96Hey ppujal, I am analyzing tuxpaint with Valgrind. I haven't claimed it officially, I wanna see how far I can get first. Just wondering who I could talk to, to confirm anything I find?
16:13.58Drumm96I don't wanna be throwing up false positives.
16:17.31ppujalYou can talk to me, anyway I will have to review it :)
16:18.27Drumm96I'm new to Valgrind. So I'm not going to claim it until I have a little more confidence. Could I leave you with something I think I found then?
16:18.44ppujalOff course,
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16:19.53Drumm96In tuxpaint.c there is a for loop in line 17459, all of them call strdup in some way and fill the place variable, I don't see any free(place) being done before the end of function however.
16:20.04Drumm96Am I right to say that is data that needs to be freed?
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16:28.50ppujalDrumm96: At the first look seems you are right
16:29.01ppujalHave to go
16:29.16Drumm96ppujal: Good to know I'm doing something right. Yeah, sorry for holding you up mate. Thanks. Ttyl
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16:36.53manugupt1SRabbelier: Hi
16:38.04SRabbeliermanugupt1: hi?
16:38.18goluhaquelolz
16:38.29Drumm96roflmao?
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16:38.42manugupt1SRabbelier: We have a list of tasks to be approved, if you can approve them it will be great
16:38.50manugupt1openSUSE
16:38.56carolsmanugupt1: SRabbelier doesn't approve tasks
16:39.06carolsthe mentors and org admins do that
16:39.34SRabbeliercarols: it'st he MR
16:39.36manugupt1carols: I mean we have already added it to melange, it has been added, needds to be published
16:39.52SRabbeliercarols: we're running it occasioinally this week until next monday
16:39.54carolsoh, are you doing that now, SRabbelier?
16:40.00carolsthat seems like a lot of work for you
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16:40.34manugupt1thinks of a new ticket with the admins able to publish the task
16:40.44SRabbeliercarols: oh, no it's 10 seconds
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16:40.52carolsSRabbelier: ok
16:41.00SRabbeliermanugupt1: next year we'll only have to run it twice
16:41.12SRabbeliermanugupt1: and there'll be a button for carols :)
16:41.18manugupt1SRabbelier: yes..
16:41.42SRabbeliermanugupt1: should be done by now
16:42.01manugupt1SRabbelier: Thanks
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16:51.39Alex11223why I can't submit my work? I paste url http://i18n.haiku-os.org/userguide/, but An error occurred, please use a valid URL or upload a file
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16:51.50Drumm96This again :P
16:51.54Alex11223file uploading also doesn't work btw
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16:52.08Drumm96Alex112233 File uploading sometimes takes 2 or 3 goes.
16:52.50Alex11223no, sorry, file uploading works
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17:04.47Alex11223btw can someone explain about  Citibank prepaid gift cards? What I can do with it in Europe?
17:05.01Alex11223maybe carols: ?)
17:05.07Drumm96Are they gift cards or credit cards?
17:05.19carolsAlex11223: you use it to remove the money from an atm
17:05.23carolsthey're prepaid cards
17:05.25Alex11223I don't know. it's copypast from faq
17:05.46carolsdon't worry too much about it now, you'll be sent instructions when you receive them
17:05.52Alex11223m...what is atm?oO
17:06.06Drumm96They're where you put a card in the wall?
17:06.07carolsAlex11223: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_teller_machine
17:06.26variablethey give you free monies if you ask really nicely
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17:06.36Drumm96http://www.wangjianshuo.com/personal/places/pudongairport/shanghai.pvg-ATM-two.jpg <-- Like so
17:06.48Drumm96http://images.crestock.com/530000-539999/535253-xs.jpg or like that
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17:10.06variableDrumm96: no, http://www.thenayshun.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/broken-atm.jpg -> like that
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17:10.35Drumm96Lol variable.
17:10.56Alex11223I understand :) I thought atm it's something phone provider in USA
17:11.09Alex11223like*
17:11.33Drumm96Not quite Alex11223, Else others (like myself) from europe would get no moneys :(
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17:52.02YeyaSwizawHello mang0!
17:52.14mang0Hello all!
17:52.18mang0Hey YeyaSwizaw :)
17:52.24YeyaSwizaw:p
17:52.31mang0Just thought of something YeyaSwizaw
17:52.42YeyaSwizawhm?
17:52.47mang0Our t-shirts...when they arrive, do we have to pay customs money for them?
17:53.05YeyaSwizawHmmm
17:53.10YeyaSwizawgood question
17:54.03YeyaSwizawI can't see anything about customs in the rules
17:54.09YeyaSwizawbut there is a section on taxes
17:54.09mang0cuz I don't wanna have to pay £20 for customs on a t-shirt that costs that amount, when I'm supposed to be getting it for free
17:54.17mang0I will read it
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17:55.55mang0YeyaSwizaw: It doesn't say.
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18:00.23carolsmang0: no
18:00.43mang0carols: No what?
18:00.52carolsmang0: no, you don't have to pay customs money for them
18:01.32mang0carols: Okay great. Thanks for clarifying :)
18:02.11carolsyw
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18:11.12callamdelaneyAny recommendations for reading SQL databases? Preferably with a GUI
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18:11.24callamdelaneyFor accessing content..
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18:15.27MatthewWilkescallamdelaney: Nope, this channel is for the GSoC programme itself, general programming questions are more likely to get a good answer in a more specific channel.
18:15.36MatthewWilkesLike, one for SQL, or for programming on whatever OS you use
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18:17.16mang0callamdelaney: MySQL? No idea bout GUI, never used it.
18:17.35YeyaSwizawMySQL doesn't really have a GUI
18:17.51YeyaSwizawon its own, anyway
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18:18.14callamdelaneyYeya - im looking for a program to display the database in a way that isn't practically unreadable
18:19.19YeyaSwizawIf it's SQLite, theres a good Firefox plugin?
18:19.39YeyaSwizawI've only really used SQLite, so if it isn't that I'm not sure I can help
18:19.40callamdelaneySeems just SQL, but it may be compatible?
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18:20.31YeyaSwizawhttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/
18:20.37YeyaSwizawif you want to try it
18:20.47YeyaSwizawotherwise, not a clue I'm afraid :(
18:22.22callamdelaneyalright - thanks
18:24.22YeyaSwizawI suppose there's always Microsoft Access :p
18:24.26YeyaSwizawIf you have it
18:24.44YeyaSwizawI'm pretty sure you can import from an SQL database
18:26.53callamdelaneythe .sql file is at a link displaying just text.. im not sure 100% if that even counts as an sql database.
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18:28.44YeyaSwizawIf it's plain text just try opening it in notepad or whatever
18:29.36callamdelaneyYou think thats viable, there is lots of information there and i thought a program would display it more clearly, but if thats not the case i can work from the plain text.
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18:30.34YeyaSwizawIt might be csv or similar, in which case you can use a spreadsheet
18:31.24YeyaSwizawmaybe not to open it, but to copy the data into
18:31.44YeyaSwizawor import
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18:35.54YeyaSwizawOn a completely unrelated note, does the time for a task count down while it is in the Claim Requested status?
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18:38.17Drumm96YeyaSwizaw: REALLY easy way to find out ;)
18:38.20mang0YeyaSwizaw: not afaik
18:39.15YeyaSwizawThere isn't a counter, but It might just not show one in this state
18:42.43Drumm96Nothing stopping you from starting now bud, just in case.
18:42.56Drumm96I'm doing tasks I haven't even claimed yet
18:43.47akedabagusYeyaSwizaw: If your request is approved then the clocks starts to tick.
18:44.33YeyaSwizawakedabagus: I thought that might be the case, thanks :)
18:44.44YeyaSwizawDrumm96: :D
18:47.40Drumm96What kind of work you doing YeyaSwizaw?
18:47.48mang0akedabagus: Yeah, I learned that the hard way :<
18:48.15mang0akedabagus: I claimed a challenge, and lost an hour because I didn't realise that the clock was going! I thought I had to click "start" or something XD
18:49.54YeyaSwizawDrumm96: Normally coding work, but my current task is to write a html user guide for some software.
18:50.23YeyaSwizawALthough when I say 'normally' I've only done 1 task anyway
18:50.32Drumm96YeyaSwizaw: Are you having "fun" writing user guides? I refuse to do that :P What kind of programming do you do?
18:51.20YeyaSwizawDrumm96: It's alright actually - it's in Sphinx, which intrigued me as i'd never used it before.
18:51.44Drumm96You're writing a user guide for software you've never used?
18:52.07YeyaSwizawSphinx is the documentation 'programming language' thing
18:52.13YeyaSwizawnot the software :p
18:52.23Drumm96Ah, Kinda like a LaTex sort of thing?
18:52.30YeyaSwizawmeh
18:52.31mang0I'm looking mainly for the "does this feature/wiki/page/etc" work?
18:52.34YeyaSwizawsort of
18:52.36mang0:P
18:52.42YeyaSwizawand I need to go and eat now :p
18:52.44YeyaSwizawbe back in a bit :p
18:52.48Drumm96Later mate,
18:53.00mang0Chow!
18:53.02mang0XD
18:53.08Drumm96Valgrind + SDL = False Positives
18:53.10Drumm96:(
18:53.26Drumm96Damn C libraries dealing with freeing memory themselves
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18:53.43callamdelaneyLol the things based on wiki pages etc are the easy tasks :P
18:53.53Drumm96Noted :D
18:55.36mang0callamdelaney: yeah :)
18:56.00Drumm96How many tasks have people done then?
18:57.04AlexTomahi
18:57.11Drumm96Sup AlexToma
18:57.17AlexTomawhere could i see how many tasks did i resolved :)
18:57.22Dragoooncoded a little leaderboard for himself :)
18:57.30Drumm96I think that won't be implemented until next week
18:57.38Drumm96Dragooon is using a .txt file on his desktop ;)
18:57.53DragooonBasically a script to crawl finished tasks and generate a list
18:58.03AlexTomawhera are you from?
18:58.30DragooonIndia
18:58.32Drumm96Around.
18:58.53AlexTomaRomania
19:00.19Drumm96The Great Britainia!
19:01.24Drumm96Bye :/
19:01.39Drumm96I don't think he likes IRC
19:02.04mang0<Drumm96> Around.
19:02.04mang0-.-
19:02.04mang0facepalms
19:02.11Drumm96smiles broadly
19:02.21callamdelaneyHail
19:02.26callamdelaneyBritannia, Master of the Seas
19:02.37mang0Oh good lord
19:02.42mang0It's stuck in my head now.
19:02.49Drumm96What is?
19:03.28mang0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPHL4Q86t4
19:03.30mang0Drumm96 ^
19:03.49Drumm96hopes it's SFW
19:03.50callamdelaneyxD
19:04.22Drumm96Is that guy riding a unicorn
19:04.30Drumm96Lol at the video.
19:05.04Drumm96RUUUUULEEE BRITAINNIA RULES THE WAVES!
19:05.13Drumm96I'm satisfied now.
19:05.50callamdelaneyI think the british government should issue a formal apology to the world.
19:05.56callamdelaneyAfter all, America was our fault.
19:06.08callamdelaneyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYY1CFKzTg
19:06.09Drumm96Agreed Callamdelaney.
19:06.17Drumm96You british also?
19:06.28callamdelaneyYeah :D
19:06.48Drumm96As a sidenote: Americans can't complain about British people doing the language funny.
19:06.57Drumm96It's out language, we can do what we want with it
19:07.04Drumm96*our
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19:07.30mang0Yeah :|
19:07.32mang0:P
19:07.57gevaertsYou stole that language from half of Europe!
19:07.58YeyaSwizawis back
19:08.09Drumm96It's still English
19:08.12YeyaSwizawYay! Arguments about Britain and America!
19:08.27Drumm96Americans speak English.
19:08.37mang0gevaerts: No, we removed various features from other languages over half of Europe, and with them invented our own language that doesn't grammatically make sense XD
19:08.46YeyaSwizaw:D
19:09.01Drumm96Yay for Britain.. Hmm where is YeyaSwizaw from?
19:09.02callamdelaneyJelly cos English language shows our individuality.
19:09.07YeyaSwizawThis sounds like a conversation I have at school about once a week
19:09.13YeyaSwizawand I'm from England
19:09.22callamdelaneyThe only reason america is not still under british control is because we were occupied forcing the chinese to buy our drugs.
19:09.29mang0Then again
19:09.32gevaertsmang0: actually, you didn't remove that many grammatical features from other languages. You removed them from Old English :)
19:09.56mang0Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo ( I think that's the right amount) is a perfectly vailid sentace
19:10.01mang0sentance*
19:10.01callamdelaneyMost americans are like - 'You stole our language and america invented everything.'
19:10.04mang0sentence**
19:10.17mang0gevaerts: And where did we get the old english from? :P
19:10.28YeyaSwizawmost of Europe!
19:10.53callamdelaneyThe germanic countries and latin are the main sources.
19:10.55weltalllet's see this time who will win XD
19:11.00callamdelaneyCountries/languages
19:11.32Drumm96"I would warn the nominee that he is walking on very thin water right now"
19:11.38Drumm96xD
19:11.47gevaertscallamdelaney: for words, yes. For grammar I don't think there's that much Latin influence
19:12.08callamdelaneyI would agree Gevaerts
19:12.26Drumm96gevaerts: What would you call this- # ?
19:12.30callamdelaneyAmericans only change words because they;re lazy
19:12.36YeyaSwizaw:D
19:12.51gevaertsDrumm96: railway crossing of course
19:12.54mang0How about this one: A woman without her man is nothing. You can reverse this sexist-seeming sentence with some punctuation: A woman: without her, man is nothing.
19:13.17YeyaSwizawPuctuation is epic like that
19:13.19Drumm96"I want to spend the night in you" "I want to spend the night in, you?"
19:13.27YeyaSwizaw:D
19:13.37callamdelaneydrumm96: lololol
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19:13.57Drumm96How many of you are outta school next Wednesday then?
19:14.10callamdelaneyi don't think i am.
19:14.17YeyaSwizawFor the strike?
19:14.22Drumm96Yeah, for the strike.
19:14.26YeyaSwizawI think so :)
19:14.31mang0YeyaSwizaw: There was a man-eating chicken to there was a man, eating chicken
19:14.32mang0:P
19:14.41MatthewWilkesmang0: You missed a buffalo
19:14.44YeyaSwizawCommas are epic like that :p
19:14.53callamdelaneySilly teachers striking.
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19:14.58Drumm96What parts of britain are we's from?
19:14.58mang0MatthewWilkes: Did I? Damn. I can't count :<
19:15.08mang0Drumm96: Devon
19:15.13Drumm96I'm glad, I get to avoid Miss.Cow two weeks in a row :D
19:15.14YeyaSwizawDrumm96: Cambridgeshire
19:15.22Drumm96I'm from Mid-Wales.
19:15.23MatthewWilkesBuffalo(adj) buffalo(noun) buffalo(adj) buffalo(noun) buffalo(verb) buffalo(verb) buffalo(adj) buffalo(noun)
19:15.31MatthewWilkesit's tautological, though. Urgh.
19:15.32callamdelaneyShrewsbury
19:15.34Drumm96My cousin once asked if we had electricity.
19:15.34callamdelaneyo.O
19:15.37Drumm96Shrewsbury?
19:15.38mang0callamdelaney, Drumm96: I go to a private school. No goddam strikes there! :P
19:15.42YeyaSwizawDrumm96: :D
19:15.45Drumm96No way man, you live 30 mins away from me
19:15.51mang0MatthewWilkes: Pah, I was close :P
19:16.01callamdelaneyme drumm?
19:16.03mang0I missed out one of the buffalo (verb)s
19:16.21callamdelaneyMe too mang0, sadly
19:16.23MatthewWilkesmang0: :D
19:16.26YeyaSwizawSpeaking of Cambridgeshire, has anybody other than me heard of St. Ives in it, and not just St. Ives in Cornwall?
19:16.44MatthewWilkesYeyaSwizaw: Nope
19:16.48Drumm96Yes you, callamdelaney. I live 10 minutes away from Oswestry if you know where that is>?
19:16.48mang0MatthewWilkes: It's a great sentance though!
19:17.00MatthewWilkesIt is
19:17.03YeyaSwizaw:(
19:17.11mang0YeyaSwizaw: You do physics right?
19:17.17YeyaSwizawYeah
19:17.19mang0Tell me the answer to this
19:17.25MatthewWilkesAFAIK the only places in cambridgeshire are Cambridge and Ely
19:17.33mang0If a car is going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights?
19:17.35YeyaSwizawMatthewWilkes: :D
19:17.47YeyaSwizawmang0: The lights come on?
19:17.48MatthewWilkesmang0: Cars can't go the speed of light
19:18.02mang0How did I know someone was going to say that -.-
19:18.04callamdelaneyDrumm96: i know its close but not precisely where
19:18.05mang0YeyaSwizaw: Yes.
19:18.06MatthewWilkesbut, the lights come on, and from the reference frame of the car the photons recede at the speed of light
19:18.13gevaertsmang0: the speed of light in which medium?
19:18.13alderzmy task is on the NEEDSREVIEW state and the clock is ticking, what happens if the countdown reaches 0?
19:18.14callamdelaneyIm closer to Telford, but shrewsbury is the closest major town.
19:18.22mang0gevaerts: Photons not waves
19:18.27callamdelaneyIt will be reviewed then alderz
19:18.27mang0both actually
19:18.30YeyaSwizawQuarks!
19:18.33mang0different answer for each I suppose
19:18.38mang0doesn't know the answer
19:18.59alderzcallamdelaney: ok, thanks
19:19.01gevaertspoints out that the speed of light isn't constant
19:19.11Drumm96callamdelaney: I can get to shrewsbury in 30 mins. :P So
19:19.13callamdelaneymang0, the 'headlights' would turn on, but would not emit light.
19:19.16MatthewWilkesgevaerts: c is
19:19.19Drumm96points out stuff moves quicker than light
19:19.29mang0MatthewWilkes: Let me rephrase that. "An incredible vehicle is travelling the speed of light. What happens when you turn on the headlights of the vehicle?"
19:19.31mang0:P
19:19.38MatthewWilkescallamdelaney: Of course they would, being fast doesn't stop the headlights working ;)
19:19.39mang0callamdelaney: That's what I suspected
19:19.41YeyaSwizawmang0: :D
19:19.43MatthewWilkesmang0: See above ;)
19:19.47callamdelaneyDrumm96: cool!
19:19.49gevaertsMatthewWilkes: sure, but that's not the speed of light in general. It's only in a vacuum :)
19:20.14YeyaSwizawHow about this one: "What happens if a unstobbable force meets an immovable object"?
19:20.15mang0No wait
19:20.20alderzmust read http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/headlights.html
19:20.28mang0surely there would be a trail behind the car
19:20.31gevaertsYeyaSwizaw: that's just a silly question
19:20.37mang0YeyaSwizaw: A black hole
19:20.39mang0lol
19:20.42YeyaSwizaw:D
19:20.50YeyaSwizawMy favourite answer is "They say hello"
19:20.52mang0The end of the universe
19:20.53mang0lmfao
19:20.56callamdelaneyDid you know theres a theory that states that time is affected by gravity?
19:21.08DragooonYeah
19:21.11YeyaSwizawvaguely
19:22.04MatthewWilkesand it's been measured
19:22.06mang0I came up with a theory last wk end
19:22.20MatthewWilkeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafele%E2%80%93Keating_experiment
19:22.31mang0a^(2) + b ^(2) = c^(2)
19:22.37mang0Can't do lil twos
19:22.39mang0or threes
19:22.47MatthewWilkesmang0: hehehehe
19:22.55mang0MatthewWilkes: :P
19:23.03gevaertsconsiders being pedantic
19:23.04callamdelaneyRather interesting
19:23.09gevaertsmang0: what is your theory about?
19:23.25mang0gevaerts: I wrote up an article on wikipedia
19:23.25MatthewWilkesgevaerts: his IRC buffer isn't big enough to explain
19:23.29mang0lmao
19:23.30YeyaSwizaw:D
19:23.57mang0My nickname is Pythagorus
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19:24.08YeyaSwizaw:o
19:24.11lionaneeshHello
19:24.14gevaertsmang0: I'm not interested in your opinion about wikipedia!
19:24.14Pythagorushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_theorem callamdelaney
19:24.16MatthewWilkesoh, right, Pythagorus
19:24.20Pythagorusoops
19:24.21YeyaSwizawAncient Greeks have IRC O.O?
19:24.23MatthewWilkesI was thinking Fermat, given the 3's
19:24.24Pythagorusgevaerts -------___^
19:24.31PythagorusYeyaSwizaw: Ofc. IRC to travel in time
19:24.41gevaertsPythagorus: that's about your theorem, not your theory
19:24.44MatthewWilkesPythagorus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat%27s_Last_Theorem
19:24.48PythagorusI'm typing this centuries before you were born
19:24.50gevaertsWell, "your"...
19:24.54YeyaSwizawO.O
19:25.04mang0I'm in disguise, btw.
19:25.04YeyaSwizawOhhh...
19:25.05mang0>.>
19:25.08YeyaSwizaw<.<
19:25.11callamdelaneyo.O
19:25.13gevaertsis used to the "os" ending in that name
19:25.14YeyaSwizawO.o
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19:25.48mang0silently backs away
19:25.57YeyaSwizaw:D
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19:26.09Drumm96+1 kudos to anyone who can tell me the chemical whatsitcalled for caffeine off the top of their head
19:26.26gevaertsmanages to find mang0's exact location anyway
19:26.33mang0http://i.imgur.com/LBeH6.gif gevaerts
19:26.37mang0Happy noo?
19:26.44MatthewWilkesDrumm96: It's far too long
19:27.02gevaertsmang0: still not a theory!
19:27.08YeyaSwizawmang0: Now you just need to prove Trigonometry and you're sorted :p
19:27.09mang0gevaerts: It was a typo
19:27.15mang0I meant theorem
19:27.22Drumm96MatthewWilkes: It's surprisingly short; Have you ever looked it up?
19:27.23mang0ujelly?
19:27.41callamdelaney_Shh jacob, ujelly?
19:27.53callamdelaney_Lol - whats every bodies specs?
19:28.03mang0?
19:28.10MatthewWilkesDrumm96: Yeah, didn't see any short ones, just looked again, still cant'
19:28.18Drumm96I know it for Bacon. Baronium, Cobalt and Nitrogen
19:28.42Drumm96Caffeine is C8H10N4O2
19:28.47dberkholzdepends on whether "whatsitscalled" is formula or name
19:28.50dberkholzchemical name is really long.
19:28.52MatthewWilkesI was thinking name
19:28.53gevaertsDrumm96: bacon isn't a single molecule
19:29.12Drumm96.. gevaerts: BaCoN (Baronium, Cobalt, Nitrogen)
19:29.20MatthewWilkeswiki says: 1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,6(3H,7H)-dione
19:29.21MatthewWilkes3,7-dihydro-1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione
19:29.37Drumm96That's not the molecule though, scroll down on the wiki a bit
19:29.40gevaertsDrumm96: BaCoN isn't Bacon!
19:29.54Drumm96gevaerts: It is if I say it is :)
19:29.59callamdelaney_-.-
19:30.00gevaertsreached a decision. He will be pedantic today
19:30.21YeyaSwizawArgh! My Eyes!
19:30.26YeyaSwizawI didn't take chemistry >.<
19:30.36Drumm96I've only done it for a few months
19:30.45YeyaSwizawThat's more than me
19:30.48YeyaSwizawwell, at A Level
19:30.58Drumm96I haven't even done my GCSE yet
19:31.03callamdelaney_Were having a discussion about chemistry when we could be down talking each others specifications?
19:31.04akshatj_A chemist ordered a glass of H2O, another chemist ordered a glass of H2O too. The second chemist died.
19:31.10callamdelaney_Drumm,
19:31.12MatthewWilkesI have 2/3 of a GCSE in chemistry
19:31.16callamdelaney_Don't you hate english?
19:31.48Drumm96First exams are in January. callamdelaney_: I hate my English lessons yeah.
19:32.14YeyaSwizawakshatj_: :D
19:32.17callamdelaney_drumm96: taking exams in january too - English higher level, a year early though.
19:32.18mang0Anyone here use FTP? Or know how to set up an FTP server on linux? I'm completely stuck -.-
19:32.22Drumm96callamdelaney_: I sit next to my ex, and the lessons are about cryptoanalysing text. It sucks.
19:32.26gevaertsakshatj_: where was this? H2O2 isn't served in many places
19:32.32callamdelaney_Ftp - i use it, its awesome sauce.
19:32.34YeyaSwizawgevaerts: :D
19:32.35Drumm96mang0, Which linux?
19:33.03callamdelaney_drmm96: im in a same sex school.. better education, ujelly?
19:33.09callamdelaney_drumm96: ^
19:33.18mang0Drumm96: Ubuntu 11.04 32bit
19:33.31Drumm96Ah,
19:33.39callamdelaney_mang0
19:33.41YeyaSwizaw11.10 ftw!
19:33.45callamdelaney_Get an AWS instance
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19:33.49Drumm96tries to remember the ftp server he used.
19:33.54callamdelaney_the worst one is free for a year.
19:34.06Drumm96vsftpd I think it was.
19:34.27Drumm96https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
19:34.40Drumm96Arch linux has an amazing guide on their wiki about securing it as well, you might wanna check it out
19:34.44callamdelaney_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SFTP
19:34.55Drumm96I <3 Arch Linux so much
19:35.14mang0No way
19:35.15mang0ew @ single sex schools
19:35.16mang0O.o
19:35.16mang0Still
19:35.18mang0I personally wouldn't like it
19:35.18mang0Drumm96: yes, got that installed
19:35.19mang0but dunno how to use it
19:35.20mang0YeyaSwizaw: Don't need to upgrade atm; if it ain't broke don't fix it!
19:35.20mang0Drumm96: Ah, ty.
19:35.22mang0brb all
19:35.25DragooonSRabbelier - If I made a leaderboard, can I share it with others?
19:35.26mang0Doesn't need to be secure
19:35.26mang0Yeah, next comp is gonna be arch I reckon
19:35.26mang0dual booting win 7 too
19:35.36mang0for gaming
19:35.38mang0NOW BRB
19:35.39Drumm96Dragooon: You should :P
19:35.47callamdelaney_Specs mang0?
19:35.58callamdelaney_And i don't have a choice, otherwise no same sex school -.-
19:36.07SRabbelierDragooon: what do you mean?
19:36.27DragooonI made a leaderboard using finished_tasks and task's HTML pages
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19:36.44Drumm96My local leisure center has a boys + girls changing room :P
19:36.50Drumm96Dem be some sexy life guards
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19:37.17callamdelaney_I can't help but getting the impression your socially awkward, drumm
19:37.23callamdelaney_amirite?
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19:37.33Drumm96Nope :) I'm the complete opposite
19:37.33DragooonSRabbelier*
19:37.42callamdelaney_hm
19:38.01gevaertsDrumm96: asocially well-adapted?
19:38.03Drumm96How does socially awkward come from unisex changing rooms + hot life guards?
19:38.05akshatj_Just some more moments till troll homework is finished
19:38.29callamdelaney_It comes from Linux + Unisex changing rooms + perving on hot life guards
19:38.31akshatj_I hope all the easy tasks aren't finished >.>
19:38.34SRabbelierDragooon: how? 0.O
19:39.12Drumm96callamdelaney_: Linux is cool, You spoke about samesex, So I spoke about unisex.
19:39.12DragooonI fetch a json list from finished_tasks, then crawl each page and grab the info
19:39.18DragooonThen I group them by student's name and voila
19:39.28Drumm96callamdelaney_: They're not much older than me. It's fair.
19:39.45DragooonSRabbelier*
19:39.47callamdelaney_im jelly
19:39.56Drumm96I don't get this jelly stuff :(
19:40.00YeyaSwizawwhat flavour?
19:40.05callamdelaney_jelly = jealous
19:40.07callamdelaney_lurk more
19:40.08YeyaSwizaw:D
19:40.12Drumm96:(
19:40.13callamdelaney_xD
19:40.18akedabagusDragooon: any link for your custom leaderboard?
19:40.24YeyaSwizawI know what it means, but it really annoys me when people say it :p
19:40.24DragooonIt's on my localhost
19:40.28YeyaSwizawDon't know why
19:40.40DragooonI'd want some moderator/developers permission to share it
19:40.42SRabbelierDragooon: wow
19:40.44akshatj_Dragooon, come one, put it on github
19:40.54SRabbelierDragooon: wouldn't it be easier to patch Melange to do the same? :)
19:40.55callamdelaney_why bother?
19:41.03SRabbelierDragooon: I mean, if you already have the skill to do all that, :)
19:41.13DragooonI'm an impatient person, took me a hour plus I don't know Python. SRabbelier
19:41.16SRabbelierDragooon: (also, I think you deserve some poitns for making that :P)
19:41.26SRabbelierDragooon: ah, shame
19:41.41callamdelaney_Dragoon: Register a free domain - register for amazon web services, set up a web server and put it there = profit
19:41.44YeyaSwizawPython!
19:41.44SRabbelierDragooon: you're fetching the difficulty from the individual pages then?
19:41.50Dragooonyes
19:41.54DragooonNo way around that
19:42.08SRabbelierDragooon: it'd rather not have the traffic of that list added to the traffic we're already getting to be honest
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19:42.22DragooonThere's no traffic, it fetches one time and then caches it
19:42.26DragooonIt only fetches new pages
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19:43.17DragooonSRabbelier*
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19:43.36SRabbelierDragooon: oh you store the data in a db?
19:43.39DragooonAre you Aneesh Dogra?
19:43.49DragooonNyah, local file cache. Didn't find the need to use DB for that
19:44.00SRabbelierDragooon: local to what?
19:44.13DragooonI just create files with a JSON array to store it
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19:44.14SRabbelierDragooon: your server or each user?
19:44.19Drumm96What language did you use Dragooon?
19:44.22DragooonPHP
19:44.28Dragooonlocal to my server
19:44.47DragooonSRabbelier
19:45.43SRabbelierhmmm
19:45.57SRabbelierthe problem I see is what happens if your database gets out of synch
19:46.09DragooonIt does a check every 30 minutes with finished_tasks
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19:46.18DragooonSo if the count is not the same, it looks for new pages and updates the db
19:46.25BVHi. Is anybody here?
19:46.27DragooonPlus I am not giving any guarantee, for what I know it's totally wrong
19:46.32DragooonSRabbelier
19:46.32mang0callamdelaney_: Sorry was afk. You want my specs?
19:46.38YeyaSwizawBV: Hello, and yes
19:46.45callamdelaney_mang0: i would be interested to know
19:47.06SRabbelierDragooon: yeah I'd rather not have people looking at a list that might be totally wrong, get their hopes up, and then later complain because it was wrong :P
19:47.15DragooonHeh
19:47.28BVI wanted to ask a question about GCI. Is this the right place?
19:47.34YeyaSwizawBV: Yep
19:47.34callamdelaney_Yes
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19:47.58mang0pretty awful tbh. Although, with (hopefully) money from GCI and bday + xmas I'll be getting anew comp. atm, my specs are: 1.46Ghz Single Core CPU, 1.5GB RAM, nVidia GeForce FX5200 :|
19:48.04mang0but
19:48.10mang0I'm happy to have any comp at all
19:48.13mang0I got donated it
19:48.21mang0and without it I wouldn't have a computer :D
19:48.22callamdelaney_ah
19:48.22Filarmang0, mine is weaker
19:48.23mang0<3 donator
19:48.26mang0Filar: Really?
19:48.27Filar:]
19:48.28mang0Specs?
19:48.32Filarreally
19:48.43YeyaSwizawO.O
19:48.52BVhttp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/10967714.png/
19:49.03Filar1.1 GHz Single core CPU, 0.5GB RAM, card the same
19:49.09BVWhat to put into the outlined field?
19:49.16MatthewWilkesmang0: Wow.  What're you running, CP/M?
19:49.17mang0Filar: ;O;
19:49.19callamdelaney_Intel core i5-2500, 4gb of ram gtx570 a 60gb ocz agility 3 ssd an old harddrive and a crappy antec 300 case.
19:49.31mang0MatthewWilkes: ?
19:49.39MatthewWilkesancient specs
19:49.54mang0ah
19:49.57mang0I'm not that old :P
19:50.17YeyaSwizaw:p
19:50.20mang0Although I did ask for a Sinclair ZX81 for my b-day
19:50.23mang0didn't get it
19:50.27mang0my mum couldn't find one XD
19:50.38gevaertsdid get a zx81 for his birthday once
19:50.49YeyaSwizaw:D
19:50.56callamdelaney_http://oldcomputers.net/pics/ZX81-doorstop.jpg
19:51.21madnutter56Hello :) is this the right place to ask for help with google code in?
19:51.22mang0NO
19:51.22FilarHmpf... translating this iOS version I'm becaming more and more convinced that it's better than PC version, some how.
19:51.27FilarSo many mods
19:51.32Drumm96Yes Madnutter56
19:51.33mang0callamdelaney_: That's stupid :<
19:51.36gevaertsmadnutter56: yes, if you manage to get a word in
19:51.37mang0madnutter56: Yes.
19:51.40mang0Haha
19:51.43Filarsry, wrong channel :<
19:51.43YeyaSwizawBV: Um.. According to my profile there shouldn't even BE a box there
19:51.48YeyaSwizawso just ignore it
19:51.50callamdelaney_Why nobody comment on my specs?
19:51.59Drumm96We're all very up on caffeine me thinks
19:52.00callamdelaney_is it because they are vastly superior in every possible way?
19:52.01Drumm96I know I am :)
19:52.02madnutter56lol I'll try :) Im getting some "http://temporary-blobstore-error.appspot.com/" error when trying to upload my work :(
19:52.27Drumm96madnutter56: Re-click onto the page, and then try to upload. Or Go back and refresh.
19:52.37YeyaSwizawDrumm96: I'm only up on as much caffiene as there is in 3 cups of tea
19:52.40Drumm96Melange sucks, blame SRabbelier.
19:52.47Drumm96I'm on as many is in 5 cans of Irn Bru :)
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19:52.56Drumm96I code on caffeine, it's "my thing"
19:53.02*** kick/#gsoc [Drumm96!~SRabbelie@188.142.63.148] by SRabbelier (be nice)
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19:53.27Drumm96I love you really SRabbelier ;) It was playful rib poking. Do not take it the wrong way
19:53.40SRabbelierDrumm96: likewise ;)
19:53.51madnutter56Drumm96: Thanks :)
19:54.00Drumm96Did it work madnutter56?
19:54.08madnutter56drumm96: Yeah worked great thanks :)
19:54.11YeyaSwizawDrumm96: I'm not a fan of Irn Bru
19:54.22callamdelaney_Does anybody else use wine for gaming?
19:54.37Drumm96YeyaSwizaw: I friend introduced me to it not long ago. As long as it's chilled, or gone flat if it's warm. Then it's lush
19:54.52Drumm96Bawls is my absolute favourite drink to program on, but it's very hard to get over here.
19:54.56callamdelaney_*facepalm
19:55.03Drumm96callamdelaney_ I have tried to a few times.
19:55.06MatthewWilkesThe only correct coding drink is Club Mate
19:55.11Drumm96Or Jolt Cola
19:55.16Drumm96As per Hackers
19:55.28YeyaSwizawDrumm96: I had Irn Bru ice cream once though. Which was oddly nice
19:55.37Drumm96That sounds nice :P
19:55.39Drumm96I want one
19:56.10Drumm96I think I might make iScream in Food tech at some point and pour a can of Irn bru in. Thanks :P
19:56.21YeyaSwizawI had it in Scotland :p
19:56.30Drumm96Never been :/
19:56.33YeyaSwizawCan't remember exactly where though
19:56.53YeyaSwizawAnd I was born in Scotland :p
19:57.01callamdelaney_the scotish love their irnbru
19:57.14Drumm96Lol. That's where it's made. But I have a feeling it didn't originate there.
19:57.25YeyaSwizaw:D
19:57.56mang0<callamdelaney_> Does anybody else use wine for gaming? Tried portal and HL2, both worked
19:58.00mang0(Portal 1)
19:58.07Drumm96I can't even get Baldurs Gate working :/
19:58.17Drumm96Or TF2
19:58.18callamdelaney_Most of valves games work through steam and wine
19:58.33callamdelaney_TF2 is a flop on wine
19:58.33Drumm96TF2 is down to my hardware + wine sucking together though
19:58.49Drumm96I get it working most of the time, just get some major lag spikes.
19:58.53YeyaSwizawI just use windows for gaming
19:58.59YeyaSwizawAnd linux for programming
19:59.18Drumm96I know people with the hardware to just run it in a VM issueless.
19:59.54callamdelaney_Meh - i might do that.
20:00.00callamdelaney_Just to make everybody mad and jelly.
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20:01.14YeyaSwizaw:D
20:01.15Drumm96Just to confirm, if I have a struct, with pointers to malloc'd data
20:01.28Drumm96I need to individually free(struct->x) right?
20:01.50Drumm96if the struct was part of a malloc in the first place, I'd have to free each one individually and then free the struct?
20:02.09YeyaSwizawGood question
20:02.18callamdelaney_Anybody here play company of heroes?
20:02.25YeyaSwizawWhile I know C++, I'm not big on stuff like that
20:02.30YeyaSwizawand callamdelaney_, yes
20:02.41Drumm96I'm a pretty confident C dev. I may need to test it later.
20:03.17gevaertsDrumm96: you have to free every chunk you malloced
20:03.19callamdelaney_yeyaswizaw: lol, favourite faction to play?
20:03.37callamdelaney_My COH tends to freeze randomly through wine.
20:03.54Drumm96gevaerts: So yes free(struct->x); free(struct->y); free(struct); ?
20:04.12YeyaSwizawcallamdelaney_: British :p
20:04.18YeyaSwizawbecause dropping planes on people is fun :D
20:04.27gevaertsDrumm96: depends. Where do struct->x and struct->y come from?
20:04.48Drumm96struct-x = strdup("Sometext") and same for y. It's basically data from malloc
20:04.56Drumm96*struct->x
20:05.18gevaertsYes, you have to free those then
20:05.29Drumm96Good, just checking. I'll add that to my report then :P
20:05.36Drumm96I'm doing a valgrind analysis
20:06.11mang0Drumm96: Have configured vsftpd, but dunno what to do next :<
20:06.37Drumm96/etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
20:07.00Drumm96Then use filezilla to log in, If you've got local_enable=YES set, then you should just log in with the normal credentials
20:07.09Drumm96Or you could be 1337 and use the command line ftp
20:08.10callamdelaney_yeyaswiazaw: same
20:08.34callamdelaney_why use filezilla when you can just use nautilus?
20:08.55Drumm96doesn't use nautilus
20:09.01gevaertswould have to install both of those
20:09.31callamdelaney_meh its much easier.
20:09.36Drumm96Likewise gevaerts.
20:10.10mang0I wanna use terminal rather than FileZilla
20:10.12mang0:|
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20:10.17gevaertsI never understood this GUI craze
20:10.19Drumm96ftp localhost
20:10.24mang0ah k.
20:10.45Drumm96gevaerts: screen + irssi + curl + vi
20:11.02mang0connected
20:11.02YeyaSwizawVi! (Well, Vim, but same thing)
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20:11.22mang0IRSSI? I prefer xchat .___.
20:11.23mang0:P
20:11.30Pwnnalol
20:11.31Drumm96We're going terminal only
20:11.36callamdelaney__xchat is for pros
20:11.48YeyaSwizawI'm still using whatever the hell it is that comes with Ubuntu
20:11.49Drumm96and irssi is for 1337
20:11.53YeyaSwizawbut I use Xchat on windows
20:12.08mang0Hmmm
20:12.21mang0YeyaSwizaw: Telepathy?
20:12.23mang0O.o
20:12.26mang0lol
20:12.37mang0Drumm96: What's the password? (defult)
20:12.42YeyaSwizawmang0: Empathy I think
20:12.43mang0I connect to localhost
20:12.49mang0and it asks for password
20:12.54mang0-YeyaSwizaw- VERSION telepathy-idle 0.1.10 Telepathy IM/VoIP Framework http://telepathy.freedesktop.org
20:13.12YeyaSwizawmeh
20:13.22YeyaSwizawbut now I'm downloading irssi
20:13.27YeyaSwizawjust because.
20:13.28mang0I've got it
20:13.29YeyaSwizaw:p
20:13.30mang0but don't use it
20:13.38Drumm96mang0: Er, You need to use your username and password for Ubuntu
20:13.49Drumm96You may need to do ftp man0@localhost
20:14.14mang0No, got  it
20:14.15mang0wtf
20:14.25mang0my whole home dir is listed?
20:14.27mang0:O
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20:14.27mang0NO
20:14.33Drumm96Have you logged in as yourself?
20:14.36mang0Yeah
20:14.44Drumm96Well there you go then xD
20:14.52mang0just usual ubuntu login and password >.>
20:14.53mang0oic
20:14.56mang0eh...
20:15.05Drumm96If you're logged in as you, then you will see your home dir
20:15.31mang0Oh okay
20:15.40mang0how do I access this from online then?
20:15.51gevaertsDon't
20:16.05mang0Yeah! it works!
20:16.07Drumm96You need to open up your firewall. Make sure you disable anonymous if you're doing that though
20:16.18mang0net2ftp.com
20:16.21mang0It works.
20:16.24mang0<3 so happy
20:16.28gevaertsDon't set up a publically reachable ftp server unless you know what you're doing
20:16.43YeyaSwizaw:D
20:16.56YeyaSwizaw"Hey, look, lets download his entire home dir!"
20:17.12Pwnnalol
20:17.13Drumm96That's why he's gonna disable anonymous access and make sure he has a half decent pass
20:17.22mang0YeyaSwizaw: Lol
20:17.27mang0Yeah, I've already done that
20:17.32mang0it was the first thing I did
20:17.34YeyaSwizaw:p
20:17.36Drumm96mang0: *should* be okay then
20:17.37mang0you could try to connect
20:17.40mang0BUT YOU CANT
20:17.46Drumm96Muhaha ;)
20:17.56mang0Drumm96: okay, say I want to host screenshots for sharing over IRC etc?
20:18.01mang0via ftp
20:18.10gevaerts*why*?
20:18.15mang0like this site: olson.hopto.org
20:18.19Drumm96You need a public area.
20:18.21mang0gevaerts: Why not ;)
20:18.22SRabbelierBEHOLD!
20:18.28mang0Drumm96: And how would I do that?
20:18.29SRabbelierwe might have a fix for the upload problems
20:18.33mang0SRabbelier: yay!
20:18.45DragooonWait, upload's broken?
20:18.51DragooonI've been uploading patches all day
20:18.58gevaertsmang0: because ftp, unless it's been set up very carefully, is rather risky
20:19.06Drumm96Might need to renable the Anonymous. The site you linked us has a ftp backend, but the place you view the files is actually a HTTP server
20:19.16SRabbelierDragooon: some people have been having trouble
20:19.36Drumm96SRabbelier: You're secretly a good programmer ;) Care to explain what happened?
20:19.38DragooonOh, okay.
20:19.42Drumm96Was it an off-by-one error?
20:20.06SRabbelierDrumm96: no, appengine has some restrictiosn to the blobstore api
20:20.12SRabbeliernamely that you must always return a redirect
20:20.25mang0Drumm96: Could I set up an HTTP server with apache2
20:20.26mang0?
20:20.28SRabbelierthis restriction is not implemented in the development environment though
20:20.35Drumm96You could mang0
20:20.37SRabbelierso we thought they lifeted that restriction
20:20.53Drumm96And they haven't? gotcha
20:20.53SRabbelierand implemented sane semantics (e.g., displaying a form with errors)
20:21.08SRabbelierDrumm96: right, so we had to switch back to the return-a-redirect-with-a-get-parameter nonsense
20:21.26Drumm96Lots of fun :P
20:21.50Drumm96Oh well, adaptable code is the best code
20:21.57Drumm96Except when AI is involved.
20:24.17mang0what task should I do? :)
20:24.25Drumm96The ones I'm doing,
20:24.39Drumm96I have 200 Hours to analyse a piece of software for errors. :P
20:24.50Drumm96Do I get extra points if I don't sleep for 200 hours?
20:25.03mang0haha
20:26.31Drumm96I am finding quite a collection of memory leaks
20:26.52YeyaSwizaw:D
20:26.57YeyaSwizawWhat software is this?
20:27.14Drumm96I think I should be silent on behalf of the vendor
20:27.20YeyaSwizawOkay :p
20:27.52Drumm96I've never used Valgrind before, so it's quite an experience. I think I'm doing a good job though.
20:28.10Drumm96It's all in C, something I love working on. I program with security in mind, so I see these sorts of holes.
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20:31.31callamdelaneyhai?
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20:53.38Andrei13Hey guys, can I promote a nice little open-source project here? I would love to have some gsoc or gci volunteers involved in the project :P
20:55.16YeyaSwizawWhat is it?
20:56.26gevaertsAndrei13: for gci or gsoc you'll have to wait for next year, assuming they'll still be organised
20:57.17carolsAndrei13: you'd need to be participating as an organization to get gsoc/gci students for it
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21:06.32Andrei13gevaerts, carols: not inside the gsoc contest, just to the people here
21:06.45Andrei13YeyaSwizaw: www.axr.vg
21:06.55carolsAndrei13: well, this is a channel for gsoc and gci :-)
21:07.05Andrei13oh ok sorry then
21:07.12carolsno problem
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21:09.04MatthewWilkescarols: But surely GSoC 2012 hasn't been announced yet… ;)
21:09.14carolsMatthewWilkes: indeed it hasn't :-)
21:09.20carolsbut the channel is still named gsoc :-)
21:09.29MatthewWilkeshmm.
21:09.48carolsand I'm happy to talk to folks about the gsoc program in general
21:09.56carolsor the gci program currently happening :-0
21:09.57carols:-)
21:10.24MatthewWilkesWho am I to argue?
21:11.03carolshands MatthewWilkes some tea
21:11.12YeyaSwizawmmm...
21:11.14YeyaSwizawtea
21:11.22mang0I'm off now
21:11.22MatthewWilkescracking idea
21:11.24mang0book time
21:11.29mang0Cheese gromit?
21:11.35mang0ttfn all :)
21:11.44gevaertsMatthewWilkes: maybe they won't get announced and the channel will then suddenly be about Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums
21:11.44mang0I'll be back tomorrow to earn my $100
21:11.48mang0:P
21:12.21gevaertsAnd then we'll all be confused
21:12.33MatthewWilkeswe already are
21:12.44gevaertstrue
21:13.24gevaertsBut we'd be *more* confused
21:13.31gevaertsdoes not consider this to be desirable
21:15.00Andrei13carols: sorry didn't mean to break the rules, we're a young project and we lack volunteers, we're always looking for new people, so I thought maybe the guys here will be interested
21:15.50carolsAndrei13: i totally understand, i hope you guys get some volunteers
21:17.33YeyaSwizawAndrei13: I might have considered it at a different time, but at the moment I'm really busy with a combination of schoolwork and GCI :(
21:18.19Andrei13YeyaSwizaw: I can imagine, maybe after GCI ends, we're waiting for GSOC to start and we're gonna apply over there, maybe meet you there.
21:18.36YeyaSwizawMaybe :p
21:19.11Andrei13I found out about GCI when it was about to finish, and this year I'm 18 so I'm not elligible
21:19.20Andrei13I feel old.
21:19.40carolsAndrei13: you're welcome to check out gsoc in a future year if we run it again
21:20.14gevaertsAndrei13: if you feel old, what about the rest of us? (excepting our esteemed GCI students of course)
21:20.20YeyaSwizawAndrei13:  :D
21:20.53gevaertsremembers the pet triceratops he had as a child
21:20.57YeyaSwizawO.O
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21:21.40Andrei13hahaha
21:21.52Andrei13gevaerts: yeaah but it's something new to me
21:22.16MatthewWilkesI wish it'd been around when I was young enough
21:22.21Andrei13carols: is it possible that gsoc won't run again?
21:22.27MatthewWilkesor, that I hadn't been strong-armed into GSoC as a project ;)
21:22.54MatthewWilkesI could still do GSoC, I guess, but that'd mean no mentor summit
21:23.23Drumm96It is awesome MatthewWilkes.
21:23.26Drumm96KEEP EEET
21:23.30Drumm96Please? <3
21:23.39MatthewWilkeshuh?
21:23.44gevaertsMatthewWilkes: we all know that students only serve as a gateway to the mentor summit :)
21:23.58gevaertsThey have no other purpose!
21:24.00Drumm96Keep doing GSoC.
21:24.04Andrei13what happens at the mentor summit ? :D
21:24.22gevaertsDrumm96: MatthewWilkes isn't going to have much say in that, really
21:24.33MatthewWilkesDrumm96: I'm not a Googler, I'm talking about if I should participate as a student or a mentor
21:24.59Drumm96Ooh. I thought you were in charge of it, and debating whether or not to run it next year.
21:25.05YeyaSwizaw:S
21:25.12YeyaSwizaw:D, even
21:25.20gevaertsAndrei13: we put all mentors on a giant pile, and the one who ends up at the top is declared the mentor summit of that year
21:25.37MatthewWilkesDrumm96: I'm not an op, the @ is a symbol of importance
21:25.44MatthewWilkescarols is in charge, here
21:26.22Drumm96I thought you held big part of significance was all.
21:26.50Drumm96..
21:26.55Drumm96Make your mind up
21:27.03gevaertsWhich you'd have known if you'd been paying attention. We're all nasty to each other, but we try to be nice to carols :)
21:27.09MatthewWilkes:)
21:28.19Andrei13gevaerts:  that sounds pretty democratic
21:28.41YeyaSwizawgevaerts: That's because carols keeps serving cookies and tea :p
21:29.32MatthewWilkesThat's because we're nice to her!
21:29.34MatthewWilkesChicken and egg
21:29.45censorydepcan confirm that she does that IRL too. And has heard rumors of a bit of chocolate... now and then.
21:30.17Andrei13yummmy, chocolate
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21:31.08gevaertsbrings in some chocolate
21:31.13YeyaSwizaw:D
21:31.19gevaertsoffers it to all mentor summit attendees first :)
21:31.36Andrei13how impolite
21:31.39carolsthanks censorydep :-)
21:32.07Andrei13rudely takes a fist full of chocolate
21:32.08censorydepYou're welcome.  I like to encourage the "be nice to carols" meme. ;-)
21:32.14carols:-)
21:32.21YeyaSwizaw:D
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21:32.50gevaertscensorydep: I'm sure carols likes to encourage that too :)
21:33.05gevaertsAndrei13: you wouldn't be doing that if you had been at the mentor summit!
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21:33.46Andrei13gevaerts: I know I am a bad person, please don't take it personal
21:33.56YeyaSwizawAndrei13: :D
21:34.07Andrei13so is, like, #gsoc, the reign of carols? :D
21:34.24carolsAndrei13: i don't reign over anything, i'm just the program admin
21:34.39dberkholzshe doesn't like to use the word "reign", in other words. =P
21:34.50Andrei13:D
21:34.57gevaertsAndrei13: it's not about being a bad person. It's about people who were at the mentor summit all having had a chocolate overdose there and therefore presumably not wanting any now
21:35.29MatthewWilkesI loved how the bartenders at the wild palms got tipped a load of chocolate
21:35.35Andrei13Why wouldn't you want choclote? There's always room for mre...
21:35.44gevaertsAndrei13: we all thought that!
21:35.44YeyaSwizawHeh :p
21:36.13Andrei13MatthewWilkes: what did they say?
21:36.26Drumm96"There's always room for more"
21:37.49Andrei13IBM has already demonstrated a 100GHz graphene-based transistor and stated that a 1THz processor is on the horizon.
21:38.00Drumm96WANT <3
21:38.03Andrei13Imagne what you could do with 1Thz
21:38.07YeyaSwizawI was going to say that :p
21:38.08Drumm96Bitcoins
21:38.12Drumm96Lots and Lots of Bitcoins
21:38.12YeyaSwizaw:D
21:38.16gevaertsAndrei13: IIRC they didn't leave it lying around so the next person would still give them some and not think they were fully stocked up
21:38.17YeyaSwizaw:D :D
21:38.19Andrei13Drumm96: what's tthat?
21:38.36DragooonIs it normal to do 9 VideoLand hard task in one day?
21:38.43Andrei13gevaerts: there is always room for more
21:38.50Drumm96Bitcoins? A Virtual Currency you get from "mining" them with your CPU/GPU cycles
21:38.59Drumm96Dragooon: Depends on your talent with ASM I guess.
21:39.17PwnnaDragooon: lol
21:39.17PwnnaDrumm96* ^
21:39.26gevaertsAndrei13: that's what the bartenders were thinking :)
21:39.46Andrei13That's what _they_ said
21:40.05Andrei13Drumm96: I don't get the bitcoin stuff..
21:40.20Drumm96Look it up, it's a little confusing. Hard to explain
21:40.44gevaertsDrumm96: bitcoins are basically a pyramid scheme
21:41.04Andrei13Drumm96: I think i found something else... http://bitcoin.org/
21:41.19Drumm96Andreil13: Yep, the homepage of bitcoins.
21:41.25Drumm96gevaerts: How so?
21:41.43DragooonYeah! Back at top!
21:42.00DragooonOr not
21:42.20Drumm96Dragooon, Where am I?
21:42.24Drumm96If you don't mind checking
21:42.34Andrei13Drumm96: what's they're purpose, they're free anyway?
21:42.37DragooonWhat's your name?
21:42.38Drumm96Probably under Dominic Monroe.
21:42.56Drumm96Andreil13: They aren't. They're free if you put a lot of CPU cycles in.
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21:43.05Drumm96They need people to generate the bitcoins for them
21:43.43Dragooon26th
21:43.49Drumm96Sweet, out of how many?
21:43.56Dragooon128
21:44.00Andrei13I'm not sure how that works economically, but it seems it has no real base...
21:44.06DragooonYou're on a 8 way tie with 4 points
21:44.29Drumm96Heh, Dragooon: Once my VPS is back up (The host is having issues atm) I'd be more than happy to mirror your script on my site
21:45.03DragooonI don't think I'll release it, don't want to get anybody's hopes up falsely
21:45.06gevaertsDrumm96: google will find some nice explanations quite easily
21:45.38Drumm96gevaerrs: for what?
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21:45.51gevaerts"bitcoin pyramid scheme"?
21:45.59gevaertsalso recommends tab completion for nicks
21:46.10Drumm96Oh. :P
21:46.14Drumm96I'm screenless atm
21:46.21Drumm96I have about 20 copies of gedit open
21:46.34Drumm96Valgrind + Debugging code
21:46.35olly_morning
21:46.40Drumm96Evening olly_
21:46.40Drumm96:)
21:46.42Andrei13Bitcoin is all confusing to me... I can find no real reason why to use it..
21:47.14gevaertsAndrei13: sounds like a sane interpretation to me :)
21:47.37Drumm96It's a currency for online, Andrei13. Not really a huge deal, but you can exchange them for cash
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21:48.21Andrei13Drumm96: yeah, but where does all that cash come from...
21:48.43gevaertsAndrei13: from new converts, as with any other pyramid scheme :)
21:48.46Chickenbellyfinnwhoa winterMute is on this channel? Is this legit?
21:49.10Drumm96Andrei13 where does US cash come from? Nowhere. It's a faith based system, all money is
21:49.18Drumm96Money is only worth what people are willing to accept for it
21:49.20Andrei13gevaerts: so there are guys actually spending money on this?
21:50.27Andrei13Drumm96: there needs to be a two-way exchange for real money to exist
21:51.02gevaertsYou can buy and sell the things, yes
21:51.43Andrei13Drumm96: and money can't be created out of thin air
21:52.26Andrei13Well yeah, you can, but the inflation goes sky high...
21:53.33Drumm96Andrei13, Where do you think USDs come from? They're made from thin air
21:54.24gevaertsWell, not entirely. They're basically made from trust and belief (which isn't far from thin air, true)
21:54.37Andrei13Yes, but when this does... the inflation rates go up
21:54.51Drumm96Nope, not true
21:55.08Andrei13Why not?
21:55.30Drumm96They've limited the number of BTC that can be created
21:55.50Drumm96With bitcoins, I think it will reach a certain number, then after that, it can only go down, not up
21:57.13gevaertsThis may work as an anti-inflation system, but it also fundamentally works to give free money to early adopters at the cost of latecomers
21:57.29Andrei13gevaerts: indeed
21:57.37gevaertsWhich basically is the definition of a pyramid scheme
21:57.57Andrei13Bitcoins are created each time a user discovers a new block. The rate of block creation is approximately constant over time: 6 per hour
21:58.11Andrei13So basically, it's all random
21:59.23SRabbelierehm
21:59.27SRabbeliercould you guys please take this elswehere?
21:59.29YeyaSwizawSRabbelier: :D
21:59.29SRabbelierlike #money
21:59.31SRabbelieror whatever?
21:59.38SRabbelieror maybe #bitcoin
21:59.39gevaertsSRabbelier: that's the point. It's not money!
21:59.43gevaertsshuts up
21:59.49SRabbelierbroils gevaerts
21:59.52YeyaSwizawmmmm
21:59.56YeyaSwizawbroiled gevaerts
22:00.24Andrei13goes to work
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22:01.28DragooonShouldn't we be able to claim task after we set one to NEEDSREVIEW?
22:01.31DragooonIt would greatly help
22:01.39DragooonAs the delay caused by mentors can be fatal
22:01.41SRabbelierDragooon: no
22:01.49SRabbelierDragooon: since it might get NEEDSWORK-ed
22:01.53DragooonI'm posting that as a suggestion
22:02.03DragooonBut then one can still continue to work on that
22:02.08DragooonHave a limit of 2 or 3
22:02.16SRabbelierDragooon: nope, sorry, 1's the limit
22:02.21SRabbeliereasy to change it to 2 though
22:02.25SRabbeliercode supports arbitrary values
22:02.44DragooonEven 2 would help
22:02.44SRabbelierDragooon: you'll have to convince carols, which is probably not possible since I suspect that'd require lawyer review
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22:04.19YeyaSwizawDragooon: There's nothing stopping you starting work on one anyway.
22:04.34YeyaSwizawJust keep in mind that somebody might claim it before you get the chance to
22:06.36DragooonThat's exactly why I asked to raise the limit
22:06.49YeyaSwizawYeah, I guessed
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22:22.00DragooonWhat score would one consider a good chance to be in top 10?
22:23.50Drumm96How many people are there? 128 did you say?
22:23.54Drumm961/12 (ish)
22:23.57Drumm961/12.8 :P
22:24.24Dragooon?
22:24.30Drumm96Oh wait, I thought you asked the chance of getting into the top 10 :P
22:24.39Drumm96Do you get more points for hard tasks?
22:24.43DragooonYes
22:24.46Drumm96Ossom
22:24.52Drumm96Good to know I ain't wasting time then
22:25.25Drumm96Are the guys at google like SJobs? People have to program for 2 or 3 days straight or get beaten by him?
22:26.18summatusmentisI think that's sort of overstating Steve Jobs
22:26.42summatusmentishe certainly could be a hardass, but I doub that he forced people to work for 48-72 hours straight
22:26.52YeyaSwizawO.O
22:27.15Drumm96Did you ever see Pirates of Silicon valley?
22:27.20Orangersummatusmentis: It's what we I heard
22:27.45summatusmentisno, I've never seen PoSV
22:28.13summatusmentisand I'm pretty sure conditions like that are against US labor laws
22:28.23Drumm96summatusmentis: Watch it. It's made by a guy who knew Bill Gates, Woz and SJobs
22:28.46summatusmentisisn't it also sort of questionable in it's take-away message?
22:28.53gevaertsForcing someone to work for two or three days straight is just idiotic
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22:29.03gevaertsUnless you *really* want bad work
22:29.57YeyaSwizaw:D
22:29.59Drumm96You've seriously never done a 24 hour programming run?
22:30.27summatusmentishow is that relevant?
22:30.58Drumm96Because it made sense 10s ago in my head.. I forget now how it was.
22:31.06summatusmentishah, oh :)
22:31.09Drumm96I'm tired.. shh :P I've been programming like 14hours.
22:31.18Drumm96With a short lunch and dinner break
22:31.20summatusmentisgo sleep, it's good for you
22:31.26Drumm96Sleep, what is that thing?
22:31.28gevaertsSee? That's what I meant! :)
22:31.40Drumm96My coding is still quality, my focus.. not so much
22:31.46Drumm96Just another can of Bru :P
22:31.46gevaertssure
22:31.55gevaertsYour coding still looks good to you :)
22:32.05Drumm96;) I'm not coding, just matching the problems to the logs.
22:32.34Drumm96I know someone who went into a maths test high out of his mind on LSD. Couldn't spell his name, but got 100% on the maths questions
22:33.05gevaertsThat's become someone else also couldn't spell his name so they had their scores swapped
22:33.22Drumm96Heh, you haven't met this guy. He's smart as shit.
22:33.35summatusmentisalso, LSD and sleep deprivation are not the same thing, as I understand it :)
22:33.46gevaertsHe is, if he has avoided me :)
22:34.01Drumm96His mind was distracted, but the logic was still fine
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22:44.26Drumm96It's a little sad when you've looked at source that's over 23K lines long and you can see a line number and know what's on it
22:50.47Drumm96This place is so quiet :(
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