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| 06:27.02 | bubblewubble303 | hi, what are the requirements for verifying school enrollment? |
| 06:27.29 | bubblewubble303 | the email says "start date in 2011 is not enough" |
| 06:27.45 | bubblewubble303 | my id card says "11 12", can I just scan the card? |
| 06:28.07 | bubblewubble303 | or do I have to show that my school year begins august 2011, or do I have to get a transcript? |
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| 06:53.37 | mridul | Hi! |
| 06:53.51 | ojwb | bubblewubble303: if the FAQ doesn't answer it, I think you'll have to email carols |
| 06:54.11 | mridul | I'm participating in GCI, 2011. I would like to know that where can I get the parental consent forms. |
| 06:54.37 | ojwb | or ask her on here, but she's only usually on in california working hours |
| 06:54.55 | ojwb | http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/updates/list |
| 06:55.00 | ojwb | mridul: ^ |
| 06:55.27 | mridul | Thanks, ojwb |
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| 10:33.08 | atuljangra | hey |
| 10:33.12 | atuljangra | anyone there ?? |
| 10:33.32 | atuljangra | I wanted to get some information about gSoC 2012 |
| 10:33.45 | Ivanovic | it is not announced if there will be a gsoc 2012 |
| 10:33.55 | Ivanovic | so there can be no explicit information about it (so far) |
| 10:34.08 | atuljangra | when will google annouce that ?? any idea ? |
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| 10:35.50 | Dragooon | Anybody got any idea how to get on OpenIntents' IRC channel? |
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| 10:44.05 | andre__ | Dragooon, asking the other way around: what's blocking you, or what's the issue for you? |
| 10:44.18 | Dragooon | I can't seem to find there room over freenet |
| 10:44.26 | Dragooon | their* |
| 10:44.58 | Ivanovic | atuljangra: usually they announce in febuary if there is a new gsoc and what the timeline will be |
| 10:45.39 | gevaerts | Dragooon: I'm not being helpful here I guess, but it's called a "channel" :) |
| 10:45.59 | atuljangra | Ivanovic: okay !! will you apply or gSoC this time ? |
| 10:46.00 | Dragooon | Room/channel...same thing :P |
| 10:46.23 | Ivanovic | atuljangra: might be... |
| 10:47.59 | atuljangra | Ivanovic: i will also try for it. :) Is there anything that i can work upon at the moment so as to increase my chances of getting into gsoc ?? |
| 10:48.25 | Ivanovic | atuljangra: you can already work with open source projects that interest you |
| 10:48.32 | Ivanovic | get to know them, how they work, stuff like this |
| 10:50.34 | atuljangra | ya but the projects that will be floated in gsoc are specific , so if i start working on some thing , like making a patch for Wordpress and then when gSoC announces the projects, then wordpress have not included that patch or stuff |
| 10:51.00 | atuljangra | then in that case i have to start from scratch |
| 10:51.23 | gevaerts | The point isn't to get a head start on the project |
| 10:51.44 | gevaerts | It's to learn how the project works, and to get used to interating with them |
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| 10:52.10 | gevaerts | *interacting |
| 10:52.18 | ojwb | Dragooon: perhaps they don't have an IRC channel |
| 10:53.21 | ojwb | atuljangra: if I have to pick between two similarly promising applicants, and one has been interacting with me on and off since december, while the other first appeared two days ago, guess which I'm more likely to pick |
| 10:54.10 | atuljangra | okay :) thanks Ivanovic and gevaerts. |
| 10:54.18 | gevaerts | I think (as someone who never was a student in gsoc) ideally you'd do this with more than one organisation, so you get a better idea of how open source works in general. With just one organisation you really have no idea where they're "common" and where they do unusual things |
| 10:54.58 | ojwb | gevaerts: I think you're probably right - also, if you focus on just one org, they may not take part in the next gsoc |
| 10:55.03 | weltall | doing only one will increase your stakes of not being choosen |
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| 10:55.08 | ojwb | though you'll learn some useful things |
| 10:55.24 | weltall | as you've less chances that they have a slot and you don't have people in front of you |
| 10:55.31 | atuljangra | ojwb : ya that's cool . but most important thing is i guess choosing your organisations wisely |
| 10:56.00 | weltall | as there are people doing masters and phd in there too in the selection process |
| 10:56.06 | ojwb | weltall: though if you put all your efforts into one application, it'll be better than those who submitted multiple ones |
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| 10:56.16 | gevaerts | If you've worked with several organisations for a while and it turns out none of them are selected, you will at least have some experience which will make it a lot easier to then start working with one of the selected organisations and get up to speed quickly |
| 10:56.40 | ojwb | overall, two seems a sane number of actual applications to make to me |
| 10:56.47 | weltall | yes but we had people doing that and we had to exclude them |
| 10:56.58 | weltall | even if their application was great |
| 10:57.03 | atuljangra | ya , agreed with all of you. Actually i am a newbie in open source world , just a sophomore , so was really enthusiastic about GSOC |
| 10:57.26 | Ivanovic | gevaerts, atuljangra: and even if you work with an org that is later on not part of gsoc many orgs will still ask "what have you done so far" and there you can say "i worked on adding ABC in project XYZ" |
| 10:57.49 | gevaerts | nods |
| 10:58.01 | weltall | yeah that will be helpful |
| 10:58.29 | atuljangra | yah that will help us a lot , thanks Ivanovic :) |
| 10:58.35 | ojwb | I worked on adding another level to the fractal lego triangle |
| 10:58.41 | weltall | i'd not correlate opensource experience with year in university :) i started opensource before being a freshman :P |
| 10:59.21 | gevaerts | ojwb: I tried an upside down own at the mentor summit later on. Didn't get very far :) |
| 10:59.24 | ojwb | post grads are often less able to take the summer off too |
| 10:59.30 | ojwb | gevaerts: heh |
| 10:59.41 | gevaerts | It was a bit unstable |
| 10:59.47 | ojwb | gevaerts: did I post the link to my photos? |
| 10:59.57 | gevaerts | I don't think I saw it |
| 11:00.12 | atuljangra | i also started that far before , but it was quite restricted like adding some pluggins to mozilla , or add-ons and stuff plus worked with gnome :) |
| 11:02.02 | ojwb | gevaerts: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jenelopy/tags/mentorsummit11 |
| 11:02.09 | atuljangra | ojwb : gevawets : ??? |
| 11:02.41 | ojwb | atuljangra: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jenelopy/6303648645/ |
| 11:03.30 | atuljangra | ojwb : nice man :) |
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| 11:07.00 | gevaerts | ojwb: did I show you http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TowerOfRockbox ? |
| 11:07.12 | ojwb | i think you probably did |
| 11:07.18 | gevaerts | The most impressive efforts are near the end |
| 11:07.29 | weltall | and if it falls? :P |
| 11:07.46 | gevaerts | weltall: it's "when" :) |
| 11:07.55 | weltall | XD |
| 11:08.11 | gevaerts | We haven't broken anything yet |
| 11:08.30 | weltall | did you hid the broken things under the carpet? :D *hides |
| 11:08.33 | ojwb | yeah, some of that seems familiar, but not the latter stuff |
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| 14:24.34 | kai | hehe |
| 14:26.10 | Alex11223 | why Dashboard is so useless? I think you should at least link to the leaderboard here |
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| 14:28.41 | ThomasWaldmann | on melange, in the task view, all people's names are javascript:void(0) links. sense? |
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| 14:39.12 | kodax | ThomasWaldmann: no sense, perhaps something on someone's TODO list |
| 14:39.23 | Alex11223 | when student form and parent consent will be checked? What if they are incorrect? |
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| 14:48.23 | giannisk | Alex11223: Why are you sending them if they are incorrect then? :) Everything is going to be alright If you have provided real info. |
| 14:48.58 | Alex11223 | I have 3 documents about school, don't know which suitable |
| 14:49.40 | giannisk | If you have a document indicating that you are enrolled as of 22 Nov., then it's alright |
| 14:49.51 | giannisk | 21* |
| 14:52.43 | Alex11223 | m...document written at 28 Oct isn't alright?) |
| 14:52.55 | kai | ThomasWaldmann: does this matter? |
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| 15:24.46 | Dragooon | Hello! |
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| 16:38.44 | yaxar | hi Dragooon |
| 16:38.46 | yaxar | :) |
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| 18:29.31 | Arc | its kinda shocking how many low-hanging fruit tasks from the first round have survived |
| 18:30.07 | Arc | students pick up really time consuming tasks with animated videos and graphic design before grabbing "document this class" tasks |
| 18:36.14 | _drumm | Arc, We all wanna program. Not document stuff |
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| 18:40.38 | Arc | _drumm: the programming tasks have been left largely untouched lol |
| 18:40.47 | _drumm | They have? |
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| 18:41.29 | _drumm | I grabbed all the decent programming tasks I could find |
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| 18:47.35 | Arc | _drumm: you didnt look at pysoy then |
| 18:47.48 | _drumm | I probably didn't look at them too much actually :P |
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| 18:52.56 | Arc | _drumm: fun stuff like this http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7127345 |
| 18:53.42 | _drumm | I'm more of a C guy.. |
| 18:53.49 | _drumm | Most of that confuses me |
| 18:53.58 | Arc | opengl confuses you? |
| 18:54.23 | _drumm | I've never even worked with it. I wasn't really aware it was OpenGL |
| 18:54.32 | _drumm | Which is built on C. I could work with that.. |
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| 18:55.49 | Arc | there's two files that need to be worked with on that task, one is Genie (a c/python hybrid language by Gnome - http://live.gnome.org/Genie ) and the other .c for the python bindings. theres enough examples in the .c code that python c-api knowledge shouldnt be needed |
| 18:57.34 | Arc | http://hg.pysoy.org/libsoy/file/3cef3ed2883e/src/bodies/Box.gs#l125 |
| 19:00.21 | Arc | and yea the normals are broken. it doesnt even have the correct number of normals. |
| 19:01.01 | _drumm | I'll take a look at that then. Are there any easier OpenGL tasks that I could do for more of an introduction? |
| 19:03.08 | Arc | this may be easier. it touches atomics, which is a bit of fun, but is mostly just scaling things by factors of 2 and switching data from 1 byte colors to 3 byte colors, etc |
| 19:03.12 | Arc | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7132343 |
| 19:04.09 | Arc | http://hg.pysoy.org/libsoy/file/3cef3ed2883e/src/textures/Texture.gs#l289 |
| 19:07.45 | Arc | the averaging code is pretty simple, just add and bitshift, the atomics are really just a checking step beyond that |
| 19:09.53 | _drumm | So where the TODO comment is needs to be some code that will correct the texel store? |
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| 19:10.25 | Arc | yes, and update the atomic objects linked in the texture |
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| 19:10.49 | gevaerts | wants to know if whoever came up with the name "texel" for those things was Dutch |
| 19:10.50 | Arc | its a bit of thought into how to do that. |
| 19:11.29 | Arc | gevaerts: that'd be an interesting bit of history :-) but it means "pixel" of a texture |
| 19:11.50 | gevaerts | Arc: yes, but is that really true? :) |
| 19:12.01 | Arc | no idea |
| 19:12.09 | _drumm | Doesn't line 299 do the reallocation for the new size? |
| 19:12.09 | gevaerts | I'd make up that sort of claim if I made up a word like that too :) |
| 19:12.14 | Arc | i just read it in the opengl redbook and have used it since |
| 19:13.06 | Arc | gevaerts: yes, currently. and that may not be the correct thing to do |
| 19:14.37 | Arc | you may want to, instead, alloc to a new location to do the scaling/shifting and then set self.texels to the new location, freeing the old |
| 19:15.17 | _drumm | Arc, You gonna be around for long? If you can help get me on my feet for this task, I'll gladly help on others as well. |
| 19:15.30 | Arc | sure. other devs are in #PySoy as well |
| 19:15.45 | _drumm | Sweet, you've intrigued me. I'll make a claim on the task |
| 19:15.57 | Arc | awesome :-) good to see coding tasks get claimed |
| 19:16.14 | Arc | im getting tired of reviewing art tasks. lol |
| 19:16.25 | _drumm | They should be. Docs + Art is boring. Programming ftw |
| 19:16.39 | _drumm | I'll brb for 5 minutes, gotta do something. Then I'll come and start researching everything :) |
| 19:16.56 | Arc | art is also really hard to review since its so subjective. code either does what it needs to or doesn't. art needs to be evaluated. |
| 19:16.59 | Arc | cool |
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| 19:29.51 | _drumm | And we're back. :P |
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| 19:30.31 | _drumm | Arc, What kind of variable is c? |
| 19:31.09 | Arc | _drumm: lets move to #pysoy for this to not create too much noise here :-) |
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| 22:15.36 | issyl0 | Hi. |
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| 22:16.03 | issyl0 | Just a quick question: if you run out of time and a mentor hasn't approved a task, does the extra 24 hours get added on by Melange? |
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| 22:16.22 | issyl0 | Or, indeed, if you run out of time and you don't get a chance to upload it to Melange, does the extra 24 hours get added on automatically? |
| 22:16.27 | issyl0 | Or does someone have to request it? |
| 22:17.09 | issyl0 | (I.e. you've done it and are waiting for external, non-Melange feedback from your mentor on a question you have relating to specifics?) |
| 22:17.23 | issyl0 | (Therby "not getting a chance to upload it", or having to rush off or something...) |
| 22:17.30 | issyl0 | s/Therby/Thereby/ oops. :-) |
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