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| 03:06.19 | cm45t3r | When is the GSoC 2012 Officially Announced? |
| 03:06.40 | summatusmentis | it's not, until it is |
| 03:06.58 | chrisoelmueller | if google decides to run a GSoC 2012, they will announce it on the ospo blog |
| 03:07.35 | chrisoelmueller | just follow it somehow and you won't miss things ;-) > http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/ |
| 03:07.50 | chrisoelmueller | if you prefer the announcement ML, you may of course also follow that |
| 03:08.03 | summatusmentis | I'm sure news sites will pick it up when it's announced also |
| 03:10.42 | cm45t3r | so it's uncertain the fact of running the program this year? |
| 03:11.10 | summatusmentis | the program is never known to be happening until Google announces it |
| 03:14.40 | cm45t3r | OK, i'll keep an eye on the blog. Thank you :) |
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| 07:00.58 | yon___ | google buddy's |
| 07:02.36 | yon___ | is there any app that can help you know like app-runner for gnome, it there some for kde |
| 07:02.36 | yon___ | is there any app that can help you know like app-runner for gnome, it there some for kde |
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| 07:05.52 | yon___ | yes |
| 07:05.54 | yon___ | what that copy and paste thing |
| 07:05.55 | yon___ | what that copy and paste thing |
| 07:05.56 | yon___ | what that copy and paste thing |
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| 07:33.34 | weltall | i suggest a blank cheque :D |
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| 09:42.37 | kblin | turns out, cookine with a microwave is harder than I thought |
| 09:43.16 | kblin | of course the fact that my choice of pot is either a small muesli bowl or an even smaller cup doesn't really help :) |
| 09:43.25 | gevaerts | One of my coworkers once managed cook a hard-boiled an egg in a microwave without it exploding inside |
| 09:44.37 | gevaerts | This was not good news. Removing exploded egg remains is easier if they're all inside the small space of a microwave than if they're all over the kitchen |
| 09:47.46 | ojwb | you can make a surprisingly successful cake in a mug in a microwave |
| 09:48.09 | gevaerts | wants to know more! |
| 09:51.32 | kblin | gevaerts: ah, the trick with the egg is adding a hole in the right place |
| 09:51.52 | gevaerts | kblin: I think he at least tried that |
| 09:52.30 | kblin | ojwb: well, the issue is more that the volume of things you can cook at once is a bit unrewarding |
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| 09:52.56 | kblin | sighs |
| 09:53.15 | ojwb | gevaerts: google for: cake mug microwave |
| 09:53.37 | kblin | I'm reviewing a thesis, and it's almost completely written in passive form |
| 09:53.52 | gevaerts | ojwb: I hope it's as rewarding as "grape plasma microwave" :) |
| 09:54.02 | ojwb | it is tastier |
| 09:54.14 | gevaerts | Yes, probably :) |
| 09:57.49 | ojwb | microwaving soap is cool, but tends to make food cooked in it taste soapy for a while |
| 09:58.11 | kblin | hehe |
| 10:00.03 | gevaerts | You have to wonder about those people who use their microwave to merely heat food :) |
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| 10:55.45 | pokoko222 | guys is there official info about google summer code 2012 |
| 10:55.50 | gevaerts | no |
| 10:56.19 | pokoko222 | something to come up soon? |
| 10:56.47 | ojwb | we don't know if it is happening, or when it will be announced |
| 10:56.47 | gevaerts | If we knew that, it would mean there *is* official info :) |
| 10:57.08 | pokoko222 | oki doki I guess untill April we will all know :) |
| 10:57.12 | ojwb | it seems likely given it's run every year for a number of years |
| 10:57.13 | gevaerts | All I know is that the two previous years, gsoc hadn't been announced yet at this time |
| 10:57.28 | pokoko222 | ok guys tnx |
| 10:57.53 | ojwb | it would be before april, unless the timeline was very different |
| 10:58.48 | pokoko222 | I am a student now working on RTS game... I just wonder what could I possibly start doing now, to increase my chances of being accepted |
| 10:58.58 | pokoko222 | i mean, i dont even know the projects that will be avaliable |
| 10:59.40 | MatthewWilkes | !will there be |
| 10:59.40 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: "will there be" is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpaQpyU_QiM |
| 11:00.05 | MatthewWilkes | pokoko222: You can look at orgs that participated last year and ask f they plant o apply again |
| 11:00.46 | pokoko222 | ok I will do so, anyways you guys know of any previous game AI related stuff that was done? |
| 11:01.30 | pokoko222 | i mean anything game related, so far I just know there is a guy that did pathfinding system in Blender at gsoc |
| 11:02.02 | gevaerts | pokoko222: I know the wesnoth people usually participate |
| 11:02.06 | gevaerts | They may have done AI |
| 11:02.52 | pokoko222 | ok, if I understood correctly you can join gsoc in two ways... you can propose an idea OR you can participate on someone else's project |
| 11:02.59 | pokoko222 | either way you get money and certificate |
| 11:03.10 | pokoko222 | and lots of knowledge of course :) |
| 11:03.22 | gevaerts | That's not entirely accurate |
| 11:04.10 | pokoko222 | correct me please |
| 11:05.05 | gevaerts | You always work within an organisation context. You can either use one of the ideas they provide, or submit your own to them. They're *very* unlikely to accept an idea that doesn't fit in their project |
| 11:05.58 | pokoko222 | ah ok I would not mind that |
| 11:06.12 | pokoko222 | but still it is an official participation right? i mean you get the certificate |
| 11:06.28 | pokoko222 | as far as I know the teams will be like 10-20 people |
| 11:06.39 | gevaerts | teams? |
| 11:07.53 | pokoko222 | i read somewhere something of the lines... there were 10 people in the drupal team, 20 people in wordpress... |
| 11:08.01 | pokoko222 | the selection was tight bla bla... |
| 11:09.27 | gevaerts | Different organisations get different numbers of student slots, but every student project is a one person project supervised by a mentor. There are no teams as such |
| 11:09.49 | gevaerts | And projects that have interdependencies are usually frowned upon |
| 11:10.10 | aghisla | still, you can interact with other students, but not in writing code |
| 11:10.16 | gevaerts | You of course work within the community |
| 11:10.51 | pokoko222 | oh i get it so me as a student propose a project idea to organization and if they want me to work on it i am in game alone + a mentor |
| 11:11.17 | pokoko222 | or accept some idea they offered... |
| 11:12.04 | aghisla | yes |
| 11:12.48 | pokoko222 | I also heard that college grades wont matter much in the selection process |
| 11:12.58 | pokoko222 | i guess people want to see some personal projects you did |
| 11:13.14 | pokoko222 | i mean as a student they dont expect you to have work experience |
| 11:13.29 | pokoko222 | so personal coding projects would be your only weapon i guess |
| 11:14.59 | gevaerts | That depends on what you mean by "personal coding projects". |
| 11:15.58 | pokoko222 | well the newest I had is an AI soccer simulation where two teams play against each other |
| 11:16.11 | pokoko222 | so if there is anything games or AI related I might show them that ... |
| 11:18.21 | aghisla | it depends on the organisations |
| 11:18.39 | gevaerts | Based on personal experience as a mentor, I'd say ideally you want to be able to point at public version control repositories and mailing lists/forums/.... That's not a hard requirement but it's definitely an advantage |
| 11:18.40 | aghisla | you can look at past years criteria on their wikis |
| 11:18.46 | pokoko222 | well what do people usually apply with |
| 11:19.08 | pokoko222 | gevaertsah yeah ok... |
| 11:19.23 | pokoko222 | that way people can see your code and docs right away |
| 11:19.40 | gevaerts | Well, not just the code, also the way it evolved :) |
| 11:21.22 | pokoko222 | or maybe a blog explaining it |
| 11:21.32 | pokoko222 | i have seen that many times, it is modern now ;) |
| 11:22.34 | gevaerts | But as aghisla says, a lot depends on the organisation. Some of them will emphasise actual code results, which means they want people who already know how to work in an open source project (i.e. they can handle git/svn/..., bugtrackers, forums and mailing lists, the social aspects...) already. Others will be prepared to help you learn all that. |
| 11:23.21 | pokoko222 | i can advantage by putting my code out there then... |
| 11:23.39 | pokoko222 | i am working on RTS game now, I can put it in some repo |
| 11:24.00 | aghisla | good |
| 11:24.49 | aghisla | feel free to contact the organisation as a new contributor, with focus on the ideas for gsoc |
| 11:25.18 | pokoko222 | when time comes I will |
| 11:25.54 | pokoko222 | i am watching video now on gsoc and there is statistics that says 1000 or so students were involved in gsoc 2009 |
| 11:25.57 | aghisla | now it's not too late |
| 11:25.59 | pokoko222 | isnt that too much |
| 11:26.17 | pokoko222 | aghisla ah you mean make contact now? |
| 11:27.11 | pokoko222 | i mean all those 1000 students were not really part of the thing, maybe just kinda being active on forums and stuff? |
| 11:27.22 | pokoko222 | probably just 30 students were officially part of gsoc |
| 11:27.25 | pokoko222 | ? |
| 11:27.25 | gevaerts | no |
| 11:27.46 | gevaerts | Last year there werw 175 organisations, and a bit over 1000 students |
| 11:28.17 | pokoko222 | well, each of those 1000 students had a mentor? :) |
| 11:28.21 | gevaerts | yes |
| 11:28.27 | pokoko222 | you cant be serious :D |
| 11:28.31 | gevaerts | Why not? |
| 11:28.47 | gevaerts | Students interact with their organisation, not (well, apart from paperwork things) with gsoc itself |
| 11:28.59 | pokoko222 | and they all are "officially" part of gsoc and they get certificates and money? |
| 11:29.09 | pokoko222 | 1000 * 5000$ that is a lot of money |
| 11:29.09 | gevaerts | yes |
| 11:29.20 | aghisla | pokoko222: yes, to see how they accept new contributors, and if they are open to ideas outside their ideas list, and to get used to the communication channels/VCS/coding styles |
| 11:29.50 | aghisla | if you wait last days, there are so many people contacting the orgs that they have less time and attention for everyone |
| 11:30.16 | weltall | well most probably you are also unable to accomplish the requirements for the org |
| 11:30.19 | pokoko222 | so i should first explore and find organizations and then ask what they plan to do for gsoc? |
| 11:30.36 | pokoko222 | weltall what requirements ? |
| 11:30.54 | weltall | as organizations decide who will be their students |
| 11:31.07 | weltall | some put patch requirements or other means to check on the requests |
| 11:31.55 | pokoko222 | well I will then start exploring last years projects and find myself 2 or 3 organizations to try |
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| 11:33.59 | gevaerts | recommends reading http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs and http://www.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 11:34.23 | pokoko222 | thank you guys i will spend my day now in reading :) |
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| 11:51.25 | MatthewWilkes | in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading,_Berkshire ? |
| 11:52.25 | gevaerts | Is that a good place to spend the day? |
| 11:53.21 | pokoko222 | seems sunny :D |
| 11:55.46 | MatthewWilkes | pokoko222: It's in England, of course it's not sunny |
| 11:56.18 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: last time I was in England it was very sunny! |
| 11:57.09 | MatthewWilkes | Was that when I got my leg grabbed in some bizarre RockBox ceremony? |
| 11:57.31 | gevaerts | No. Last week of September and first week of October |
| 11:57.56 | gevaerts | looked at ruins |
| 11:59.37 | Ivanovic | gevaerts: were those ruins already there before your trip? |
| 11:59.43 | Ivanovic | ;) |
| 11:59.55 | gevaerts | They were, yes :) |
| 12:02.05 | gevaerts | See https://plus.google.com/110584782497854525545/posts/3N6CSZviWKu for one of my days there |
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| 12:02.48 | Ivanovic | okay, yeah, those look like older ruins |
| 12:04.16 | gevaerts | saw 38 things, 5 of which still had a roof |
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| 18:06.40 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 18:07.17 | Catfish_Man | hello carols :) |
| 18:07.23 | carols | hey Catfish_Man :-) |
| 18:07.26 | carols | happy monday |
| 18:07.51 | gevaerts | gets some tea and coffee |
| 18:08.13 | gevaerts | Nothing like a decent tea and coffee mixture to warm up when coming in from the cold! |
| 18:08.26 | carols | gevaerts: how's the weather where you are now? |
| 18:08.36 | gevaerts | Cold and rainy |
| 18:08.43 | carols | yeah, same here :-) |
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| 18:09.15 | gevaerts | Around 5 degrees C |
| 18:09.22 | carols | that's colder than it is here... |
| 18:09.35 | Catfish_Man | it's actually been raining here though :) |
| 18:09.44 | Catfish_Man | it's confusing my portland-bred senses. "wait, where am I?" |
| 18:09.51 | gevaerts | :) |
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