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| 04:04.15 | Mango_Man | yo what up gsocers |
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| 05:14.25 | manojhans | Hello....is it possible to resubmit any idea that has been already submitted in 2009 or 2010 |
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| 05:23.53 | brlcad | manojhans: sure |
| 05:24.07 | brlcad | best to talk about it with org mentors though |
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| 05:31.02 | manojhans | thanks brlcad...ok how can i check if the org mentors are on irc.... |
| 05:31.11 | manojhans | i m a kind new on using irc |
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| 05:33.18 | brlcad | manojhans: that entirely depends on which org you're intrested in |
| 05:33.44 | brlcad | a google search ("[org] IRC channel") will usually give a hint |
| 05:33.59 | brlcad | most are on this network (freenode) in #orgname or ##orgname |
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| 05:37.28 | manojhans | ok....ok since you have mentioned it....this ##orgname things....i was going through channel list....i am unable to join channel names with double ## on it |
| 05:38.13 | manojhans | why is that....some kind of registration requirement?? |
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| 08:48.59 | nischayn22 | any previous participants in here? |
| 08:51.55 | kai | yes? |
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| 10:59.55 | adam__ | i just want to know how to check projects ideas for gsoc 2012 |
| 11:01.08 | adam__ | will anyone reply please ?? |
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| 11:02.32 | gevaerts | adam__: as in see a list? |
| 11:02.55 | adam__ | gevaerts: will u give me link for the list |
| 11:02.57 | gevaerts | If so, you can either look at last year's list, or wait. Organisations can only start submitting their application later today |
| 11:03.37 | adam__ | gevaerts: give me the list of organizaion of last year |
| 11:03.43 | gevaerts | http://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 |
| 11:04.11 | adam__ | gevaerts: thnx |
| 11:07.09 | jrabbit | I got my GCI shirt a few days ago :D |
| 11:07.55 | adam__ | jrabbit: so what ? why you are doing publicity of it ? |
| 11:08.51 | gevaerts | adam__: this channel is also about GCI |
| 11:13.24 | jrabbit | I think I'm going to show it off to my students today :P |
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| 11:57.45 | mang0 | Woop! My GCI stuff just came in the post! Teeshirt, money, certificate and a sticker :) |
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| 12:27.22 | jrabbit | nice |
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| 12:32.07 | kai | didn't do GCI last time around |
| 12:32.33 | kai | the bar for being a mentoring org was pretty high this time around |
| 12:33.05 | kai | but that might be a feature :) |
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| 12:39.20 | |Kev| | It probably is a feature. |
| 12:39.46 | |Kev| | I've considered that GCI was beyond our org, irrespective of where the bar was set by Google :) |
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| 13:01.14 | vperic | Hi all, I'm trying to apply for a scholarship and want to list my GSoC work somewhere, but I seem to remember that we aren't allowed to say we were employed by Google (because we strictly haven't been). As such, I guess I can't put this in the "Professional Experience" catogry. So, then, is it an "Award" or an "Activity". The form doesn't really explain what it includes under these terms. Thanks all for your thoughts! :) |
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| 13:04.31 | jrabbit | its certainly employment... atleast more or less |
| 13:04.52 | jrabbit | vperic: just list google summer of code? |
| 13:05.04 | mang0 | vperic: I personally would say it's an activity...but that's just me. Idk...*shrug* |
| 13:05.08 | jrabbit | Google Summer Of Code - your mentoring org? |
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| 13:05.56 | _dr | i don't see why you shouldn't list it under professional experience, since i bet you're applying for some IT job, and you could count the experience gained from gsoc to your profession :) |
| 13:06.26 | mang0 | hm |
| 13:06.52 | gevaerts | mang0: well, anything you do is an activity. I'd hope that all students who didn't treat gsoc as an activity failed :) |
| 13:08.14 | mang0 | gevaerts: Haha, yeah |
| 13:10.20 | brik | think I remember something like "Google Inc. (Google Summer Of Code)" was fine to put under work experience a couple of years ago at least |
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| 13:13.05 | vperic | hmm |
| 13:13.29 | vperic | I'm pretty sure I saw a mail in the GSoC list that we aren't allowed to put Google as our employer. |
| 13:14.10 | vperic | In particular, if I list it as a "Professional Experience" category, I also need to add in a supervisor name (my mentor I guess) and position (??), plus the address of the company with phone and fax. |
| 13:14.31 | vperic | And I'm very certain carols wrote somewhere that I can't just put Google. |
| 13:15.49 | gevaerts | You can't just say "Oh, I worked for google for three months", no. I'm pretty sure you *can* say google paid for it though, provided you make it clear that all supervision was done by someone else |
| 13:16.41 | vperic | gevaerts: Yeah, I agree. The problem is that I have just these fields in my form and it's not obvious what I should put there. |
| 13:18.41 | vperic | Ah, I guess this is the thread I was thinking about: https://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-students-list/browse_thread/thread/f24d94c24238ad2c/0d5481d192d88a64?lnk=gst |
| 13:24.27 | |Kev| | It isn't a job, so I wouldn't put it in a field obviously designed for a job. |
| 13:24.38 | |Kev| | Or, not a job in the usual sense. |
| 13:25.01 | brik | you're basically hired as a contractor aren't you? |
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| 13:30.13 | vperic | Ok, so, I have these fields (brackets is what I intend to put there): Company (SymPy // Google Summer of Code), Position ("Student Developer", as per Carols' mail), Begin/End Date (obvious), Supervisor Name (my mentors' name), Supervisor Position (??? Senior Developer?), Address (??? SymPy isn't an official non-profit organization afaik), phone/fax (again, ???). Thoughts? |
| 13:30.30 | nischayn22 | isn't it a internship? |
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| 13:32.12 | vperic | Not really, an internship in Google is something completely different: 3-6 months on site, working directly for Google. |
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| 13:35.20 | kblin | vperic: it's professional experience at the open source project, isn't it? |
| 13:35.59 | vperic | kblin: ok, I agree, my main question now is what should I put as address and phone, when SymPy isn't even an offically registered non-profit organization (unlike eg. KDE, Python Foundation or whatever). |
| 13:36.10 | kblin | vperic: you could ask your mentor if he's willing to be your reference |
| 13:37.40 | kblin | what kind of people judge your scholarship application? |
| 13:37.50 | gevaerts | thinks google could put something about this in the FAQ. That might not solve any individual case, but it should at least explicitely make clear what's not allowed |
| 13:38.12 | kblin | also it comes up every year :) |
| 13:38.35 | gevaerts | That too. It clearly qualifies for the F in FAQ :) |
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| 13:40.17 | vperic | It's a scholarship from the GE Foundation (http://scholarshipandmore.org/czech-republic/home/) |
| 13:40.39 | vperic | So... don't know what kind of people. Probably not so technical? |
| 13:40.54 | vperic | Consdiring the stipendium isn't only for IT students. |
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| 13:42.20 | shubble | the website says it's for engineering or buisness students, so I guess it's for promising people GE might want to hire |
| 13:42.46 | vperic | Yeah, something like that. |
| 13:43.31 | vperic | The total scholarship is also less than GSoC actually paid, so.. yeah. :) |
| 13:45.49 | shubble | a lot of people I think the GE scholarship is sponsorship for your education, while GSoC is 'doing a technical project with mentoring' |
| 13:46.08 | shubble | you could do both |
| 13:46.11 | shubble | be a rich student... |
| 13:46.19 | vperic | Yeah, that's why I'm applying for it now, I did GSoC last year. |
| 13:46.24 | shubble | ahaa |
| 13:46.32 | vperic | The issue is how to list the GSoC work in my application. |
| 13:46.49 | shubble | this will be my first GGoC, how did you find it? |
| 13:47.06 | shubble | mm, I guess you could put it as work exprience. should look pretty good. |
| 13:48.49 | vperic | shubble: It was a great experience, definitely apply! I'd recommend focusing - pick an org you like, start approaching the community and considering projects. |
| 13:50.07 | vperic | kblin: So, do you think it would be alright if I asked my mentor (or one of the other "senior" developers) to provide his contact info for the "company"? |
| 13:50.27 | shubble | I think it would be alright if you asked him |
| 13:50.29 | vperic | Or, actually, I could just send a mail to GE and ask them how should I handle it - I'm sure I'm not the first former GSoC student to apply. |
| 13:50.46 | shubble | well, I'd regard it as if you had a summer job |
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| 16:55.23 | mlankhorst | !next |
| 16:55.24 | gsocbot | mlankhorst: "next" is Feb 27 - Mentoring organizations can begin submitting applications to Google. |
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| 17:00.42 | mlankhorst | !forget next |
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| 17:01.11 | mlankhorst | !learn next as Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
| 17:01.11 | gsocbot | mlankhorst: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
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| 17:16.14 | anantzoid | hi! |
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| 17:18.01 | anantzoid | I need help in contcting organizations. |
| 17:18.06 | anantzoid | *contacting |
| 17:18.11 | JordiGH | What help do you need? |
| 17:18.26 | anantzoid | How should I go about approaching them? |
| 17:18.35 | anantzoid | Based on last years' projects? |
| 17:18.48 | JordiGH | Each org has different communication channels, but the common ones are mailing lists, IRC chat rooms, and web forums. |
| 17:19.02 | JordiGH | Well, if you can wait two weeks, you'll know which orgs to contact this year. |
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| 17:19.46 | anantzoid | What all are the basic requirements the student must fulfill for getting selected? |
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| 17:22.28 | anantzoid | @JordiGH? |
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| 17:23.44 | JordiGH | anantzoid: @twitter @syntax seems out of place in @IRC. |
| 17:23.57 | anantzoid | Sorry. I'm a newbie |
| 17:24.28 | JordiGH | anantzoid: There's a FAQ... basically you just have to be an enrolled student of a tertiary educational institute during the summer. Do you have doubts if you fulfill this? |
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| 17:26.02 | anantzoid | But I heard getting selected was difficult. |
| 17:26.59 | downey | anantzoid: Most projects will give potential students tips & advice on how to contact them and introduce themselves to the community. |
| 17:27.21 | anantzoid | Thanks. That was a great help. |
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| 17:28.48 | gevaerts | Getting selected isn't necessarily easy, but don't overestimate how difficult it is |
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| 17:29.51 | |Kev| | anantzoid: My #1 for selecting students is "Already know them because they've introduced themselves to me and I feel comfortable I now have a feeling for who they are". |
| 17:30.00 | downey | anantzoid: You may have to do some research with the organizations that interest you--if you find out how to get involved before the student applications open, and maybe even try to work on a small bug or two, you might have an advantage. (It just depends on each organization.) |
| 17:30.08 | |Kev| | I imagine a number of other potential mentors are the same. |
| 17:30.32 | JordiGH | I have a few students who are already contributors. |
| 17:30.48 | gevaerts | I'd say most rejections aren't for insufficient technical ability. Being able to communicate well is *very* important |
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| 17:35.59 | anantzoid | so I contact the organizations through irc? |
| 17:36.13 | |Kev| | Through whatever means the org tends to use. |
| 17:36.22 | |Kev| | That should be easy to find out from their websites. |
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| 17:41.53 | marinaz | anantzoid: if you haven't seen it yet, check out http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/Mentors it has mentors in some organizations that can help you with fixing your first bug |
| 17:43.02 | |Kev| | *Potential mentors |
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| 17:48.17 | anantzoid | Will check all of it. |
| 17:49.42 | anantzoid | Do i need to start contributing before hand? That's what written in the Mentors' page |
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| 17:50.53 | |Kev| | I'd strongly recommend it. |
| 17:51.55 | anantzoid | So how do I start contributing from now only?I mean. isn't it too late, given that the applications are gonna start |
| 17:52.32 | |Kev| | The orgs haven't begun applying yet. They won't finish doing so for nearly a fortnight, you've plenty of time. |
| 17:52.38 | marinaz | anantzoid: you fix one or two small bugs - it should only take you a few weeks to do it and it shows that you have the skills and interest to do the work during your internship |
| 17:53.01 | |Kev| | Many orgs will have lists of simple tasks for you to complete if you want to. |
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| 17:55.03 | anantzoid | on their website itself? |
| 17:55.18 | |Kev| | Talk to them. |
| 17:55.29 | |Kev| | But remember that no-one knows if they'll be an org yet. |
| 17:55.58 | marinaz | anantzoid: sometimes it is in there bug tracking system, for example GNOME has bugs marked with a "gnome-love" keyword and Mozilla has bugs marked with "mentored-bugs" |
| 17:56.20 | anantzoid | All those orgs that applied last year may apply this year too. So maybe I can get a little idea |
| 17:56.25 | marinaz | the page for how to get involved in contributing in each organization will point you to the list of such easy bugs |
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| 17:58.17 | marinaz | anantzoid: first, you should focus on choosing the organization whose work interests you the most and start contributing there; then if it happens to not be accepted on March 16 you can choose a different organization that gets accepted, but the experience of getting involved with one organization will help you in getting involved with the other |
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| 17:59.54 | anantzoid | Do I stand a chance in hot-shots? eg. Mozilla, Gnome? |
| 18:00.16 | vinzz | samebchase: hi did you fix any bug till now? |
| 18:00.41 | anantzoid | Not for any open source organizations. |
| 18:01.47 | marinaz | anantzoid: it is directly related to how much you contribute by the application time, but in some way the bigger organizations will likely have more spots available; you stand a chance in any organization where you take the time to learn what it's working on and how it works, fix a couple bugs, and talk to a potential mentor to agree on a viable project |
| 18:01.53 | downey | anantzoid: This is a great thing to read if you haven't seen it yet: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ - there's a chapter "Am I Good Enough". |
| 18:02.47 | Catfish_Man | anantzoid: a simple low pass filter is available for mozilla: can you get firefox to compile? |
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| 18:03.04 | Catfish_Man | their build process is nutty enough that that's actually a bit challenging ;) |
| 18:03.14 | anantzoid | Just came across this book moments ago, but didn't see this chapter.I'll check now |
| 18:04.20 | anantzoid | Catfish_Man: any links to it? Which language support? |
| 18:04.23 | marinaz | anantzoid: think about it this way - your chance are a sum of your contributions, how useful and realistic your proposal is, and your connection with the potential mentor for the proposal; your academic background and past non-open-source projects are only somewhat important to set the tone |
| 18:04.54 | Catfish_Man | anantzoid: another simple low-pass filter for gsoc in general: can you find the source for a major open source project on your own |
| 18:04.59 | Catfish_Man | if you can't do that, you probably can't code for it either |
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| 18:05.42 | anantzoid | Catfish_Man: Sure I'll do that |
| 18:05.56 | marinaz | anantzoid: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Introduction |
| 18:06.12 | Catfish_Man | marinaz: stop thwarting my efforts to teach self-reliance :P |
| 18:06.14 | marinaz | oops :) |
| 18:06.17 | marinaz | sorry |
| 18:06.19 | anantzoid | marinaz: Can you be a little specific about "My proposal"? What kind of proposal do I have to give? |
| 18:06.43 | marinaz | anantzoid: hint, it was linked to from http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/Mentors |
| 18:06.56 | edsiper | anantzoid, http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ |
| 18:08.07 | marinaz | anantzoid: it depends on the organization and what they need; organizations will have ideas list and you can also study the roadmaps and talk to the lead developers in particular projects about what would be useful to them; you need to learn about the project yourself to figure out what would be a useful proposal |
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| 18:09.18 | anantzoid | That's exciting. Proposing your own ideas and implementing them in the organization's products rather than merely do what they have asked |
| 18:10.13 | marinaz | anantzoid: you really need to learn a lot about what would fit in to propose your own idea; it's usually not a good idea for a person completely new to an organization |
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| 18:11.05 | anantzoid | That's ok. I've got some experience in working with ideas and have a couple of mine waiting to be implemented |
| 18:11.29 | gevaerts | carols: every year several people ask about how to refer to gsoc work in CVs. Maybe there should be something about that in the FAQ? |
| 18:11.32 | marinaz | anantzoid: ok, then make sure you find a mentor who agrees to mentor that idea |
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| 18:11.48 | carols | gevaerts: good idea. i'll make a note to myself to add that |
| 18:11.49 | carols | thanks |
| 18:12.04 | anantzoid | I'm sure I'll be able to impress him :) |
| 18:12.53 | marinaz | anantzoid: him or her :) - but good |
| 18:18.45 | spectre | hey all ^^ |
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| 18:23.13 | MatthewWilkes | Man, these GCI kids are 31337. ;) |
| 18:23.48 | Dragooon | MatthewWilkes: Yes, we are :P |
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| 18:35.09 | edsiper | 25 minutes to submit apps :) |
| 18:35.23 | JordiGH | is still camping out. |
| 18:35.30 | JordiGH | No, wait, arrrgh, I have a meeting at that time. |
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| 18:35.34 | JordiGH | just realised. |
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| 18:36.13 | MatthewWilkes | damn |
| 18:36.14 | MatthewWilkes | you just scared me half to death |
| 18:36.21 | MatthewWilkes | thought you meant 25 minutes left of the period |
| 18:36.26 | edsiper | hahaha |
| 18:36.35 | spectre | hey marinaz ! |
| 18:36.46 | edsiper | MatthewWilkes, you have enough time :) |
| 18:36.50 | MatthewWilkes | not 25 minutes until it opened, wondered where I miscounted the weeks |
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| 19:15.11 | mathieui | I guess you have to register or login before anything |
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| 19:17.42 | edsiper | mathieui, i did, i already fill the profile |
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| 19:18.19 | edsiper | i think that i should get the option in the Dashboard, but i only have the "my requests" link |
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| 19:18.35 | David_Honeynet | edsiper: create your profile, go back to home page, apply as org appears |
| 19:18.54 | David_Honeynet | on the main home, rather than in your dashboard or requests |
| 19:19.42 | edsiper | oh, have to get there twice... got it, thanks David_Honeynet |
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| 19:20.46 | David_Honeynet | and so another summer begins :) |
| 19:20.59 | David_Honeynet | good luck with the org applications everyone... |
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| 19:23.32 | Lennie | Good luck people :) |
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| 19:31.17 | madrazr | Lennie: Thanks! |
| 19:31.22 | madrazr | Lennie: And good luck to you too! |
| 19:31.23 | madrazr | :P |
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| 19:33.09 | David_Honeynet | hey carols, hope you are well |
| 19:33.19 | carols | thanks David_Honeynet. i am. how are you? |
| 19:33.23 | David_Honeynet | can I have the honour of asking the first daft question of the year? |
| 19:33.43 | David_Honeynet | good thanks - excited to get org applications and ideas pages going ;-) |
| 19:33.52 | Catfish_Man | first daft question was ages ago |
| 19:34.02 | David_Honeynet | heh, next daft question then! |
| 19:34.37 | David_Honeynet | do org applications work the same way in melange this year, in that you can submit early but then edit repeatedly until the deadline before it actually becomes officially submitted? |
| 19:34.49 | ThomasWaldmann | moin :) |
| 19:35.00 | ThomasWaldmann | typo on the front page: "as new a mentoring organization." |
| 19:35.09 | ThomasWaldmann | fills out forms |
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| 19:39.13 | ThomasWaldmann | would love a legalese diff display |
| 19:40.56 | madrazr | David_Honeynet: yes |
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| 19:52.09 | marinaz | hello thilinaa |
| 19:52.43 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! We are now accepting applications for mentoring organizations at http://www.google-melange.com. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. |
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| 19:53.59 | downey | organic tea |
| 19:54.03 | downey | (bad pun) |
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| 20:03.43 | JordiGH | Hm, I don't have a phone number. |
| 20:03.49 | JordiGH | And it's required... |
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| 20:05.06 | JordiGH | I guess I'll give the office phone number. |
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| 20:05.22 | ThomasWaldmann | usually they won't call you |
| 20:05.40 | ThomasWaldmann | guess it is just for when something is burning |
| 20:06.54 | JordiGH | Nice, an "other" option in gender. |
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| 20:09.22 | JordiGH | Is it more convenient for the tax things to be done by a US resident? |
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| 20:09.32 | JordiGH | I'm not from the US, but the backup admin is. |
| 20:10.08 | ojwb | the org admin isn't necessarily who receives the org payment |
| 20:10.11 | thili_na | hello everyone ! |
| 20:10.35 | ThomasWaldmann | that's a bit hard to tell, except if you find someone who did it as non-US AND as US resident |
| 20:11.47 | JordiGH | Huh, interesting, the no warranty bit is not in SHOUTY CAPS. That's the first time I see that. |
| 20:15.19 | JordiGH | Hm, can't spell my name correctly... |
| 20:16.10 | JordiGH | Will "Jordi GutiEACUTErrez Hermoso" do? |
| 20:16.28 | ThomasWaldmann | just use e |
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| 20:17.46 | JordiGH | Submit to the ASCII hegemony without a fight? Never! |
| 20:18.00 | JordiGH | Okay, fine, I'll do it. |
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| 20:19.00 | ThomasWaldmann | you'll notice that you can't even use full ascii |
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| 20:20.18 | ThomasWaldmann | iirc has to do with technical limitiations outside of google. i bet google would be happy to use unicode. |
| 20:20.27 | JordiGH | Banks are dumb, apparently. |
| 20:20.48 | ojwb | shipping companies actually, it seems |
| 20:20.52 | ojwb | well, in this case |
| 20:21.05 | JordiGH | It seems Citibank is also to blame. |
| 20:21.16 | JordiGH | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=903#c16 |
| 20:26.43 | Lennie | We'd love for it to be unicode :) |
| 20:27.03 | Lennie | There is a full name field which you can fill in unicode so that we can properly print certificates for our students |
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| 20:31.28 | JordiGH | Huh, another legalese clickthrough. |
| 20:31.34 | JordiGH | diffs it with the one he just read. |
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| 20:32.59 | JordiGH | Identical. |
| 20:33.00 | JordiGH | Alright. |
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| 20:35.21 | Lennie | JordiGH, is that the org admin agreement and the one you get when you actually fill in the application? |
| 20:35.30 | JordiGH | Yeah. |
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| 20:36.20 | ThomasWaldmann | JordiGH: legalese diff for you also? :D |
| 20:36.27 | JordiGH | Hm? |
| 20:36.46 | Lennie | It's caused by two things, this year we are getting the org admin profile set up before you are accepted |
| 20:36.48 | ThomasWaldmann | (20:39) *** ThomasWaldmann would love a legalese diff display |
| 20:36.56 | JordiGH | Oh. |
| 20:36.57 | Lennie | and the fact that org admins/mentors that join later also need to agree to this on signup |
| 20:37.00 | JordiGH | ThomasWaldmann: I just used ediff. |
| 20:37.16 | JordiGH | M-x praise-be-unto-emacs |
| 20:37.27 | Lennie | We might be able to get rid off the one on the org app page :0 |
| 20:37.31 | Lennie | if they are always the same |
| 20:37.43 | ThomasWaldmann | (i didn't mean org admin vs org legalese only, but also legalese now vs year before) |
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| 20:39.06 | Lennie | What has changed since last year :)? |
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| 20:43.04 | JordiGH | Sigh, my backup admin hasn't signed up yet. |
| 20:43.15 | JordiGH | Can I save the form and finish it later? |
| 20:43.59 | ThomasWaldmann | you can edit it later IF it saves |
| 20:44.07 | JordiGH | It didn't. :-/ |
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| 20:44.48 | JordiGH | Oh well, I'll try to keep it in RAM and leave the browser window open. |
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| 20:45.04 | Lennie | JordiGH, nope sorry no saving :) |
| 20:45.31 | Lennie | Feel free to star http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=419 JordiGH |
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| 20:45.52 | Lennie | but not sure if it is going to apply to applications |
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| 20:46.05 | platzhirsch | I was wondering, why there is a Sample Code Submit in the end after the evaluation, couldn't find anything about it |
| 20:46.15 | JordiGH | yo dawg, i heard u liek applying |
| 20:46.55 | carols | platzhirsch: at the end of the summer all students are required to submit their code to a repository for their organization. |
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| 20:47.41 | platzhirsch | carols: It's for the organization, I thought it's for Google ;) |
| 20:47.50 | platzhirsch | that makes it clear |
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| 22:07.02 | ea_suter | howdy |
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| 22:08.50 | ea_suter | I know mentoring organizations are still making applications, but does anyone know of organizations that are submitting projects involving GPGPUS (Cuda, OpenCL and such)? |
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| 22:10.36 | mmadia | your best bet would be either to have patience or look at the orgs from 2011. |
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| 22:15.19 | aghisla | ea_suter: from what I know, I can suggest you to look at GDAL project, R and SciPython |
| 22:15.45 | ea_suter | thanks :) |
| 22:17.12 | aghisla | you can also filter http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2011 |
| 22:17.36 | aghisla | and contact the organisations that had GPU-related projects |
| 22:17.55 | ea_suter | that looks like a good place to start, thanks again |
| 22:18.43 | aghisla | you're welcome :) |
| 22:25.38 | mmadia | hmmm... do backup org admins need to register themselves on google-melange this week or only if the org gets accepted? |
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| 22:30.08 | sync1 | Hi ppl, I have a simple question. I'm a student and I want to join this project, should I register somewhere or just my mentor? |
| 22:30.32 | katherinescott | Hi, I work for a mentoring organization and I have a few GSoC logistics questions. |
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| 22:31.23 | ojwb | sync1: I don |
| 22:31.33 | ojwb | sync1: I don't think students can register yet |
| 22:31.53 | edsiper | sync1, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
| 22:32.20 | katherinescott | Do students need to physically located with their mentors? |
| 22:32.28 | edsiper | katherinescott, no |
| 22:32.29 | mmadia | katherinescott -- no. |
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| 22:32.57 | ojwb | it's really rare that they are, or that they even meet |
| 22:32.57 | sync1 | ojwb: thanks =) |
| 22:33.00 | mmadia | think of it like a work-from-home or remote internship. |
| 22:33.05 | katherinescott | Is it usually the case that they work daily with their mentors? |
| 22:33.23 | summatusmentis | that's really up to the mentors/mentoring org |
| 22:33.27 | aghisla | it's better to have some overlap with the working hours, but there is no formal limitation |
| 22:33.43 | katherinescott | Okay, so work from the assumption that they students could be somewhere far off. |
| 22:33.55 | katherinescott | What if we have interest in doing open source hardware? |
| 22:34.42 | edsiper | katherinescott, look at the past projects to see if some one do open hardware... |
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| 22:35.25 | katherinescott | Okay, but the assumption is that the student stays where they are for the summer and works, going to the mentor/organization is subject to what the students wants. |
| 22:35.33 | edsiper | sync1, you should apply by your self... there is not yet accepted organization but it is always recommended to contact the organizations before you apply.. |
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| 22:36.02 | ojwb | katherinescott: many of the orgs don't really have anywhere the student could go |
| 22:37.32 | katherinescott | Okay. I will tailor my application accordingly. I actually work remotely but we have a really lovely office at a maker space. The students would get a lot out of physically being there. |
| 22:38.34 | katherinescott | One other question, can you give me an idea of the process flow for org applications. So I have a login, then there is a org application, and after that we submit our project ideas? |
| 22:38.44 | edsiper | katherinescott, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
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| 22:39.36 | Lennie | katherinescott, do you represent an org? |
| 22:39.38 | ojwb | katherinescott: project ideas list is typically just a page on your wiki or site that you provide a link to in the org app |
| 22:39.46 | Lennie | whatever ojwb says :) |
| 22:39.59 | ojwb | Lennie: in every case? |
| 22:40.16 | Lennie | I'm not going to say yes since that would give you a freepass :P |
| 22:41.28 | gevaerts | katherinescott: the ideas list should be reasonably complete at the end of the application period. The google people *will* look at it when deciding who to accept |
| 22:41.48 | gevaerts | That doesn't mean you can't add ideas later, but it shouldn't be empty |
| 22:41.58 | Lennie | In fact |
| 22:42.04 | Lennie | I like it if students come up with their own ideas |
| 22:43.55 | katherinescott | Lennie - I represent an org |
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| 22:44.38 | Lennie | Then what gevaerts and ojwb said applies to you |
| 22:44.49 | Lennie | It is used to give an impression of the possible work a student could do for you :) |
| 22:45.18 | katherinescott | Okay so in general, like the example in the FAQ, just give the students a couple of domains that they can work on, state what the student must know to succeed, and provide an idea of the skill level required. |
| 22:45.50 | edsiper | katherinescott, yep, a list with a title, description, skills required, expectations.. etc |
| 22:46.29 | katherinescott | I think that covers most of it. I will set this all up. Thanks for the help everyone. |
| 22:47.08 | carols | katherinescott: i assume you've read the mentors manual and the section on the ideas page, yes? |
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| 22:53.44 | mlankhorst | kblin: want to be backup admin for wine again? |
| 22:54.47 | katherinescott | carols - a looked through it briefly, I will take a second look. Thanks. |
| 22:54.51 | carols | yw |
| 22:54.59 | kblin | mlankhoZzz: if you can't find anybody else, sure |
| 22:55.22 | mlankhoZzz | kk |
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