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| 00:57.13 | lambdanaut | I'm registering for summer classes soon. Is GSOC a "full time job" thing or would I be ok taking classes full time while doing GSOC? |
| 00:58.52 | meflin | you should expect to spend at least 40 hours a week on GSOC |
| 00:59.16 | meflin | one of my star students last year took a full load and way over-delivered |
| 01:00.28 | meflin | also aced all his concurrent classes ( our primary concernn ) |
| 01:01.36 | lambdanaut | I think I'm gonna give it a shot then! |
| 01:01.51 | meflin | I would advise you think twice tho |
| 01:02.18 | floodge_ | Save some time for the summer ._ . |
| 01:02.36 | meflin | GSOC+ a full load leaves no time for anything else |
| 01:03.53 | adamDavis_ | YUP |
| 01:04.04 | adamDavis_ | dont spread yourself thin unless you absolutely need to |
| 01:04.39 | meflin | "fun time" for the student and I sharing a cup of tea via irc while talking about school and GSOC and geekys |
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| 01:08.12 | meflin | I like a bit more funtime in my life |
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| 01:18.35 | thebolt | adamDavis_: i think most orgs will hesitate a bit to take a student who has full time classes as well.. |
| 01:19.11 | adamDavis_ | thebolt, i can't argue with that kind of logic :) |
| 01:19.27 | meflin | it did cause us some concern |
| 01:19.47 | meflin | the proposal and interview where very strong tho .. |
| 01:20.01 | adamDavis_ | there are always exceptions ;)O |
| 01:21.30 | meflin | this is another reason I am a fan of interviews you can put hard questions to students |
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| 01:22.02 | adamDavis_ | I perfer soft questions...whats your favorite katty perry song, flavour of ice cream, that sort of thing |
| 01:22.20 | meflin | well this student mid-stream expanded his project and met the expanded goals so .. probably an exception |
| 01:23.19 | meflin | depending on org those can be usefull |
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| 01:23.34 | thebolt | yea, i think so too.. if you ask some other orgs (i know kblin likes to point it out for example) they will tell you that the only student they really failed were those who tried to do gsoc+job or gsoc+other fulltime thing. |
| 01:23.47 | meflin | its odly hard to mesh with my org if you dont cook food |
| 01:24.16 | meflin | or at least appreciate food |
| 01:24.17 | adamDavis_ | meflin, :) excellent. I think these sorts of questions are valuable, too. But well, this is because i have my own values |
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| 01:24.46 | thebolt | meflin: what org? |
| 01:24.54 | meflin | we do 1 hour irc interviews of all apps |
| 01:25.08 | meflin | kernel.org ( an sigh now we are not the linux kernel! ) |
| 01:25.47 | meflin | its not unusual for a nice app to show up and have no tech skills at all :\ |
| 01:26.03 | adamDavis_ | wow :) |
| 01:27.50 | meflin | last year I think 70% of apps sounded good .... and only 3 interviews did leave me thinking "shoot me now" |
| 01:28.27 | adamDavis_ | ahhhh |
| 01:28.30 | adamDavis_ | interviews :) |
| 01:28.31 | meflin | #3 interview didn't sound good |
| 01:28.51 | meflin | err i mean #4 slot app didn't sound good |
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| 01:29.02 | meflin | exceeded expectations ! yea! |
| 01:29.12 | adamDavis_ | always a good thing |
| 01:29.25 | meflin | well it was till today |
| 01:29.43 | adamDavis_ | interviewing people is tricky like that - false positive, false negatives all over the place |
| 01:29.50 | meflin | last year exceeded expections was the worst slot |
| 01:29.56 | adamDavis_ | you just must trust your insticnts and hope for the best |
| 01:30.06 | meflin | this year I am the new primary admin ..... |
| 01:31.06 | meflin | so right around 1 hour + of submit applications for org it dawned on me .. I'me hosed I can't do as well as last year ;) |
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| 09:38.49 | Alex11223 | hello, is there someone from gci administartion? I just received shipment, but there is no card, only information (checklist, how to register/verify, but can't find PIN and so on), is it OK? also it certificate my parent's name oO i.e. "This is to certify that <My_Parent_Name> has participated in..." |
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| 09:39.06 | Alex11223 | hello, is there someone from gci administartion? I just received shipment, but there is no card, only information (checklist, how to register/verify, but can't find PIN and so on), is it OK? also it certificate my parent's name oO i.e. "This is to certify that <My_Parent_Name> has participated in..." |
| 09:39.14 | Alex11223 | oh, double post sorry |
| 09:39.50 | gevaerts | Alex11223: contact the google people by email |
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| 11:11.24 | eyuva | Hi to all |
| 11:11.35 | eyuva | Im a new bie to gosc |
| 11:12.03 | eyuva | i want an help can anyone help me out ? |
| 11:14.06 | vytas | Hi eyuva, what is your question? |
| 11:14.14 | eyuva | i am an student |
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| 11:14.23 | eyuva | but by mistake i have applied for mentoring |
| 11:14.30 | eyuva | how to invoke that request ? |
| 11:15.05 | ThomasWaldmann | eyuva: how did you "apply for mentoring"? |
| 11:15.16 | eyuva | actually friend had said about gosc without reading about it , i just clicked on reg and filled mentoring |
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| 11:15.32 | eyuva | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 |
| 11:15.34 | eyuva | from here |
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| 11:15.49 | eyuva | there is option organizations apply now.. |
| 11:15.50 | ThomasWaldmann | so you registered as an org admin and as organisation? |
| 11:16.37 | eyuva | i had applied as or admin |
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| 11:16.56 | eyuva | bt i want to apply as student and after reading help and timeline |
| 11:17.17 | eyuva | i got to know that reg for students applcn will start from 8th march |
| 11:17.58 | ThomasWaldmann | eyuva: i suggest you wait a bit until the googlers (esp. carols ) wake up and talk to them |
| 11:18.09 | eyuva | ok thanx |
| 11:18.37 | ThomasWaldmann | wonders how you could reasonably fill out those forms, though |
| 11:19.02 | gevaerts | eyuva: I think in previous years this sort of thing was handled by asking in #melange. That's where the people who handle the technical side of the melange site live |
| 11:19.20 | eyuva | can any one say do new bie like me who are pursuing be and have just knowledge of php lang and open source cms like wordpress and joomla can get internship in gosc ? |
| 11:19.33 | thiago | eyuva: you can |
| 11:19.47 | eyuva | @gevaerts thanx boss will note it out. |
| 11:19.53 | eyuva | @thiago thanx |
| 11:20.07 | eyuva | so any suggestions for new bie like me to get selected in gosc ? |
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| 11:20.43 | vytas | eyuva, select project for you heart and passion, and you will be fine :) |
| 11:21.19 | eyuva | @vytas will note down ur point |
| 11:21.26 | thiago | eyuva: and start working now |
| 11:21.33 | thiago | engage the project, start doing open source work |
| 11:21.46 | eyuva | @thiago from where to get the project ? |
| 11:22.00 | vytas | eyuva, search for gsoc 2011 projects |
| 11:22.09 | vytas | and you will get rough idea |
| 11:22.10 | eyuva | i mean can i work on any open source project or need to select some specific from the scope of gosc ? |
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| 11:22.50 | vytas | depends only on yourself |
| 11:23.10 | thiago | for now, do anything you'd like |
| 11:23.22 | eyuva | thanx to all |
| 11:24.14 | eyuva | i found some good projects from gsoc 2011 but before starting if i want to contact the developer of that project to know more about is there any way to do it out ? |
| 11:27.45 | vytas | yes, google :) |
| 11:28.27 | eyuva | ok |
| 11:28.59 | eyuva | so any mentor here who want intern for sms based applications or php based projects ? |
| 11:31.57 | _hsr | I think its too soon to ask buddy, wait for the organizations to submit their projects |
| 11:37.57 | eyuva | _hsr ok |
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| 13:28.19 | flak37__ | Can a student submit more than one idea / to multiple mentoring organizations ? |
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| 13:28.44 | flak37__ | *i mean application |
| 13:29.05 | stefanha | flak37__: Yes |
| 13:29.31 | flak37__ | Multiple applications / ideas per organization too ? |
| 13:30.32 | stefanha | flak37__: Hmm...I'm not sure about that. In the past, as a mentor, when we've had a student that we really want to select but also have another great student for that project idea, we simply ask them to consider a different project idea. |
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| 13:30.48 | stefanha | flak37__: So I'm not sure if doing multiple applications to the same org is a good strategy. |
| 13:30.59 | stefanha | If they really want to choose you they will probably work it out with you. |
| 13:31.14 | stefanha | But if they are not convinced then multiple applications won't help you either. |
| 13:31.28 | stefanha | Different orgs do things differently, but that's my adivce. |
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| 13:32.50 | flak37__ | thanks |
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| 13:37.33 | JordiGH | Well, we didn't have separate applications per se, but we talked for a while with students while they informally proposed ideas until we decided on a good application that eventually got submitted on Melange. |
| 13:38.04 | JordiGH | So... we sort of preliminary decided on the application before it got submitted to Google. |
| 13:38.09 | JordiGH | preliminarily |
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| 14:01.59 | Alex11223 | Is there anyone who already received GCI prizes?:) (or in previous years) |
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| 14:54.56 | izibi | is it possible to add the new credit card to the account i created last year on www.na.citiprepaid.com or do i have to create a new one? |
| 14:55.14 | izibi | Alex11223: yes. just got it |
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| 14:57.04 | Alex11223 | you received card? I didn't :( only information about it (how to register etc.), T-Shirt and certificate (with parents name instead of mine, can't figure out why, it was only in parental consent and shipment info), emailed to Stephanie about it |
| 15:00.35 | vytas | what was the reason for receiving T-shirts and certificates ? |
| 15:00.40 | izibi | Alex11223: yes, everything is correct here |
| 15:00.50 | izibi | vytas: google code-in |
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| 15:04.13 | vytas | that's quite impressive prizes, is there something similar with GSOC -> prize to see Google headquarters ? :) |
| 15:04.18 | ThomasWaldmann | hey izibi :) |
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| 15:07.10 | izibi | Alex11223: was your box still sealed when you received it? |
| 15:07.16 | izibi | ThomasWaldmann: hi |
| 15:07.17 | gevaerts | vytas: gsoc *can* lead to getting to visit google, yes. It's not straightforward though: you have to stay active with the organisation after gsoc, and then get involved in gsoc from the organisation side, and then if things work out and you're a gsoc mentor, you can go to the mentor summit :) |
| 15:07.27 | Alex11223 | izibi: yes |
| 15:07.56 | Alex11223 | but I didn't photo sealed box and unsealing =\ |
| 15:07.58 | vytas | nice gevaerts, thanks |
| 15:09.09 | gevaerts | vytas: I'm not even making this up. I know of at least one person who went from gsoc student to gsoc mentor to gsoc organisation administrator |
| 15:09.50 | izibi | Alex11223: well, nobody does that. just wait for stephanie's answer. sadly there's not much you can to about this now :( |
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| 15:11.24 | gevaerts | Alex11223: I don't really see why such a photo would be necessary, really. The main thing in the package should be the card, and as far as I know that's not activated before it reaches you and you do something, so if even if someone stole it from the box, it's worthless |
| 15:12.00 | gevaerts | So there's no reason for a student to lie about not receiving it, and therefore also no reason to doubt your word |
| 15:12.07 | |Kev| | gevaerts: I went student->mentor->admin, don't know if it's me you mean. Although I've not done a summit yet. |
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| 15:12.40 | gevaerts | |Kev|: ah, that makes two :) (no, it wasn't you) |
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| 15:12.55 | gevaerts | Another k-nick though :) |
| 15:12.59 | Alex11223 | but if someone stole it maybe he has enough info to activate and use, I think it's much easier with prepaid card |
| 15:13.00 | |Kev| | Although I admit that I was already active in the org before being a student. |
| 15:14.51 | izibi | there's a sticker on the card: "your card is already activated an ready to go" |
| 15:14.58 | gevaerts | oh |
| 15:15.04 | gevaerts | hm, that changes things of course |
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| 15:15.21 | Alex11223 | izibi: what written in your FedEx documents about package? I can't find here anything about card, only T-shirt |
| 15:15.39 | izibi | Alex11223: nope, not mentioned there. just as last year |
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| 15:16.01 | gevaerts | never even saw a gsoc or gci card, so he's not sure of the details |
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| 15:17.30 | izibi | also if you're from outside the US, the card is registered on google's address and the zip code (the only thing you need for verification that's not printed on the card) is printed on the letter |
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| 15:26.47 | Alex11223 | yes, outside the US... but I think zip code is not very important for registration via internet and it can complited with any other US zip code... btw can't find google's zip code in the letter. you mean letter with title "Student Payment Card Information"? |
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| 15:28.33 | izibi | Alex11223: no, there is an extra envolope in the package in which the card is |
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| 15:29.26 | izibi | Alex11223: with some extra information on how to set a pin and what fees exist and so on |
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| 15:37.02 | izibi | Alex11223: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/92247/scan0016.jpg this is what it looks like |
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| 15:39.07 | Alex11223 | I didn't receive it... thank you :) |
| 15:39.44 | crimsonredmk | what's this card for? |
| 15:40.39 | Alex11223 | google code-in |
| 15:40.45 | izibi | Alex11223: but you did complete at least 3 tasks, did you? |
| 15:40.53 | Alex11223 | 18 :) |
| 15:41.53 | Alex11223 | Also as I know there is prize T-shirt and 24$ for 1 task, so if I received T-shirt there must be and card also |
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| 15:44.37 | izibi | Alex11223: 24? 100/3 is 33.3 ;) but the card should be in the same package. just wait for stephanie's reply. maybe they just messed something up |
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| 15:46.38 | Alex11223 | don't know why 24 :) " Each Participant submitting at least one (1) Completed Entry will receive one T-shirt with an approximate value of $24 USD (twenty four U.S. dollars)." GCI rules |
| 15:47.48 | Alex11223 | oh, looks like it's t-shirt cost |
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| 15:48.01 | izibi | oh interesting. on this import document it says its value is $10 :D |
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| 15:59.29 | vytas | Is there any benefit for Google to do this fantastic charity ? |
| 16:00.24 | izibi | vytas: don't know. they need employees in the future ;) |
| 16:02.24 | vytas | I didn't hear anyone got in Google this way. Even though it would be brilliant invest |
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| 16:05.57 | aghisla | there is plenty of new code available! |
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| 16:08.32 | Lennie | vytas, what way? |
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| 16:11.56 | vytas | Lennie, companies buy other companies just for people working there. So I assume there should be team in Google responsible not only to look through reports, but search for talents as well. |
| 16:13.24 | Lennie | true |
| 16:13.40 | Lennie | I'm sure we have our talent hunters :) |
| 16:13.54 | Lennie | <vytas> I didn't hear anyone got in Google this way. Even though it would be brilliant invest |
| 16:14.01 | Lennie | are you referring to GSoC? |
| 16:14.20 | vytas | yes |
| 16:14.27 | Lennie | I know of more than a handful |
| 16:14.32 | Lennie | Including myself in some manner :) |
| 16:14.53 | vytas | in this case, I will try to be in your target Hunters :) |
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| 16:15.17 | Lennie | You can send me your work if you'd like |
| 16:15.32 | Lennie | We could use more talent if you think you are up for it :) |
| 16:15.58 | vytas | what work you looking for |
| 16:16.59 | Lennie | Hmm, pm me so we can take this off the channel :) |
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| 16:17.51 | _ke | do i have to register again on google-melange, even if i was an org admin the last two years? |
| 16:18.41 | Lennie | _ke, yes |
| 16:18.51 | Lennie | Information should be pre-filled though |
| 16:18.57 | Lennie | if not please file a bug :) |
| 16:19.01 | _ke | Lennie, right ;) |
| 16:19.04 | Lennie | Because that would be a regression |
| 16:19.14 | Lennie | It's for two reasons |
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| 16:19.20 | Lennie | 1. We can't let you change previous years data |
| 16:19.24 | Lennie | 2. You need to accept the new agreement |
| 16:19.30 | Lennie | although not sure if anything changed this year |
| 16:19.37 | Lennie | Anyway, legal requires us to :) |
| 16:19.40 | Lennie | So we comply |
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| 16:21.14 | izibi | why is the gci sticker transparent this year. just wanted to stick it on my notebook which ist black... :D |
| 16:21.22 | izibi | that sucks ;) |
| 16:21.38 | _ke | Lennie, anyway, data does not seem to be pre-filled |
| 16:21.43 | aried3r | So, I was able to login just fine, but when I click "register as org admin" nothing is pre-filled. I was a mentor and org co-admin last year. |
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| 16:24.28 | Lennie | _ke, could you file an issue ? http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/entry |
| 16:26.54 | aried3r | And please paste the link to the Issue in here so I can star it ;) |
| 16:27.14 | Lennie | aried3r, I applaud starring over posting +1 :p |
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| 16:27.49 | _ke | Lennie, aried3r http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1445&thanks=1445&ts=1330446451 |
| 16:28.44 | Lennie | Thanks _ke |
| 16:28.53 | _ke | Lennie, np |
| 16:29.07 | _ke | Lennie, so should we wait until this is fixed? |
| 16:29.41 | Lennie | Please don't |
| 16:29.44 | Lennie | Just fill in your data again :) |
| 16:30.05 | aried3r | Needs a unit test ;) |
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| 16:31.09 | _ke | Lennie, bummer |
| 16:31.14 | _ke | ;) |
| 16:31.24 | Lennie | aried3r, :) |
| 16:31.31 | Lennie | Feel free to write one it is open source :P |
| 16:31.37 | aried3r | :D |
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| 16:47.25 | kai | Lennie: open source with CLA, which IMO is slightly less open ;) |
| 16:48.50 | Lennie | kai, just to protect us afaik :p |
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| 16:49.23 | kblin | Lennie: sure, to protect you from me, the evil contributor |
| 16:49.39 | kblin | very successfully, too |
| 16:50.33 | Lennie | kblin, np :P |
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| 16:53.08 | kblin | Lennie: I'm aware it's not really your choice, but I still don't see what a CLA would protect you from that the Apache license doesn't |
| 16:54.04 | allman | morning all. |
| 16:54.37 | Lennie | Does the Apache license protect one from evil contributors that steal code from other places/ |
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| 16:55.50 | kai | IANAL, but my opinion is that if the contributor is lying, you should be fine if you accepted the code in good faith, just as with a CLA |
| 16:56.04 | kai | because that doesn't protect you from evil contributors that steal code either |
| 16:56.25 | kai | it's just a piece of paper that some lawyer believes in |
| 16:56.33 | Alex11223 | allman: hello, are you from google? I didn't receive card in package and name in cerfiticate is wrong (parent name instead of mine). what should I do? wrote to Stephanie, but no answer yet |
| 16:57.31 | Lennie | when did you write to steph Alex11223 ? |
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| 16:58.03 | allman | Alex 11223: Stephanie is researching your case and will get back to you asap. You are in good hand - but I understand why you might be "concerned". We'll get it straightened out |
| 16:58.11 | Alex11223 | 12 20 UTC +2 |
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| 17:00.38 | Alex11223 | allman: ok, thank you :) |
| 17:01.01 | allman | You are most welcome :) Thanks for taking part in GCI! |
| 17:01.31 | kblin | Alex11223: it's 9:00 in the morning in google-land :) |
| 17:01.40 | kblin | !patience | Alex11223 |
| 17:01.41 | gsocbot | Alex11223: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
| 17:01.41 | kblin | :) |
| 17:02.34 | Alex11223 | sad that in next year I can't take part in it :) even in GSoC, because I still will be in last grade of our school. |
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| 17:04.32 | allman | but you can still be involved in an open source project. :) |
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| 17:06.08 | sfb | You can also mentor in GSoC if you have a project you've been working with and they trust you to mentor. |
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| 18:33.08 | DylanC | Hi all... quick question.. what is an application template? Im not sure if I understand it correctly. |
| 18:34.11 | marinaz | DylanC: the questions you will want the applicants to answer in their application |
| 18:35.07 | DylanC | Oh right, thank you! :] |
| 18:35.24 | marinaz | :) |
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| 19:46.22 | agliodbs | carols: I think we're looking to take fewer students this year |
| 19:46.32 | carols | agliodbs: assuming you're accepted, yes? |
| 19:46.53 | agliodbs | well, if we're not accepted, that would be a lot fewer |
| 19:46.58 | carols | indeed. |
| 19:46.59 | agliodbs | ;-) |
| 19:47.10 | carols | agliodbs: pm? |
| 19:47.13 | agliodbs | sure |
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| 20:59.20 | hsyal | any info of what all organisations will appear |
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| 20:59.45 | JordiGH | hsyal: What or when? |
| 21:00.25 | Lennie | !next |
| 21:00.30 | Lennie | !timeline |
| 21:00.30 | gsocbot | Lennie: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 21:00.41 | Lennie | hysal ^^ |
| 21:00.46 | gsocbot | Lennie: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
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| 22:18.08 | paroneayea | hiya |
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| 22:18.20 | paroneayea | so I work at CC, and we do GSoC but |
| 22:18.34 | paroneayea | I was also going to have http://mediagoblin.org/ apply for doing mentorship this year |
| 22:18.41 | paroneayea | can I do that under the same user? |
| 22:18.59 | paroneayea | ... and am I allowed to be helping to run two GSoC things? |
| 22:19.35 | scorche|sh | you can be an admin of multiple organizations provided you can handle things on your end |
| 22:19.35 | paroneayea | aha, cool |
| 22:19.45 | paroneayea | well I won't actually probably be the one doing the student for CC this year :) |
| 22:20.16 | paroneayea | I just need to handle the management side of re-applying as a mentoring org again |
| 22:20.20 | paroneayea | thanks scorche! |
| 22:20.33 | JordiGH | What's CC? |
| 22:20.36 | JordiGH | Credit card? |
| 22:20.39 | paroneayea | JordiGH: Creative Commons |
| 22:20.42 | JordiGH | Ah. |
| 22:20.50 | paroneayea | JordiGH: plenty of people in #cc think it's the credit card channel ;) |
| 22:21.06 | paroneayea | we even have to address it in our /topic |
| 22:21.32 | paroneayea | http://blog.grossmeier.net/2009/03/07/the-wonders-of-the-cc-irc-channel/ |
| 22:21.34 | paroneayea | :) |
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| 22:45.54 | JordiGH | paroneayea: trololol |
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| 22:48.17 | kblin | hi folks |
| 22:48.50 | kblin | does anybody know which animal ubuntu 11.10 is called after? |
| 22:49.18 | kblin | obese ocelot seems wrong ;) |
| 22:49.18 | JordiGH | Ocelot. |
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| 22:49.24 | JordiGH | Oneiric. |
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| 22:49.32 | kblin | ah, there we go, thanks |
| 22:49.51 | JordiGH | Seems like an odd question to ask in #gsoc, but whatever. |
| 22:50.55 | kblin | I get better replies here than in #ubuntu, and I didn't really disturb the vivid ongoing conversations about on-topic stuff :) |
| 22:51.29 | kblin | and after all gsoc stands for "generic savoir-faire on opensource conundrums", doesn't it? ;) |
| 22:51.42 | carols | kblin: yes, i can confirm this. |
| 22:51.53 | gevaerts | !gsco |
| 22:51.57 | gevaerts | !gsoc |
| 22:51.57 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "gsoc" is Google Summer of Code, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open-source Conundrums |
| 22:52.00 | JordiGH | savoir-faire is one word? |
| 22:52.04 | JordiGH | Ah. |
| 22:52.08 | gevaerts | uh oh, gsocbot is wrong! |
| 22:53.26 | kblin | !no |
| 22:53.26 | gsocbot | kblin: "no" is no, you cannot have a a deadline extension or an exception. have a cookie instead. there is nothing stopping you from contributing to open source anyway. |
| 22:53.33 | kblin | yay, cookie! |
| 22:53.49 | gevaerts | !this cookie | kblin |
| 22:53.49 | gsocbot | kblin: "this cookie" is for you |
| 22:53.50 | JordiGH | The #gsfc channel is empty. :-( |
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| 22:54.33 | kblin | even more cookies! |
| 22:54.39 | JordiGH | We need more of the last panel: http://notinventedhe.re/on/2010-3-23 |
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| 22:55.51 | debar | hi gsocers, is a university open source project with wireless sensor node communication worth the application? |
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| 22:56.29 | kblin | maybe/ |
| 22:56.30 | kblin | ? |
| 22:56.38 | kblin | do you have an active community? |
| 22:56.39 | JordiGH | debar: You apply to organisations, not with your individual project. If you can find an organisation interested in that project, it's valid. |
| 22:57.03 | debar | our organisation would be my university |
| 22:57.07 | debar | https://github.com/Phialo/wsnserver |
| 22:57.20 | debar | community is pretty limited to our local master's students |
| 22:57.38 | JordiGH | Your organisation would have to demonstrate to Google that they run a free project of general interest and are able to mentor students. |
| 22:57.50 | JordiGH | I doubt it will be able to demonstrate this. |
| 22:58.19 | debar | how would it be possible? we are releasing it soon as it is embedded congress atm in nuernberg/germany |
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| 22:58.47 | JordiGH | debar: Where is your university's mailing list, IRC channel, source code hosting? Who are the principal developers? |
| 22:58.58 | JordiGH | debar: Who will be the backup admin for your university? |
| 22:58.59 | debar | https://github.com/Phialo/wsnserver |
| 22:59.21 | debar | backup admin is our laboratory assistens who is availible locally as the community is 'low-tech' at our place |
| 22:59.30 | JordiGH | What is the free project of general interest that your university produces? |
| 22:59.49 | debar | unifying communication between various brand wireless sensor nodes |
| 23:00.15 | ojwb | debar: if you've not released anything at this point, I doubt you would be accepted |
| 23:00.17 | JordiGH | debar: You can suggest to your university to apply if they think they are comparable to the Apache Software Foundation or to the GNU project or git, but I doubt they will qualify. |
| 23:00.25 | ojwb | debar: we can only really guess though, based on the feedback we've seen on the selection process - it's up to google who they pick and how they do that |
| 23:00.43 | ojwb | not everyone is the ASF or GNU |
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| 23:01.03 | debar | aww, it is really hard to get internaltional students interested in specific embedded systems :? |
| 23:01.05 | JordiGH | Well, I also offered git. |
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| 23:01.46 | ojwb | sure, though I get the impression that's a pretty big community |
| 23:02.00 | JordiGH | debar: Your university will also need to produce an ideas page where they suggest several free projects that interested students could be mentored on. |
| 23:02.22 | debar | the main idea is to transport it over a new encrypted layer |
| 23:02.30 | JordiGH | debar: Also, hurry up. Your university has less than two weeks to submit this application. |
| 23:02.33 | debar | but it is pkcs#11 stuff nobody wants to touch |
| 23:02.48 | debar | doubt if we can compete with the gnu foundation |
| 23:02.52 | JordiGH | debar: There needs to be more than one main idea. There should be like 10-20 main ideas, from the ideas pages I've seen for other orgs. |
| 23:03.32 | JordiGH | (at a minimum, a lot of orgs have many more ideas than that) |
| 23:03.46 | debar | that would be a lot for a bleeding edge project |
| 23:03.55 | kblin | debar: you don't need to compete with the FSF. you do however need to have a bunch of general interest projects to get interested students |
| 23:04.52 | kblin | oregon state open source labs might give you an idea how this'd look for a university institution |
| 23:05.15 | scorche|sh | debar: generally, bleeding-edge projects arent accepted to GSoC, as one of the criteria that Google uses to select projects is a measure of how stable the org is - dont be afraid to try though ;) |
| 23:05.45 | debar | we are a very small institution with about 120 master students which will be closed in about one year as we are low on research funds |
| 23:06.05 | debar | so i will try to gather some ideas |
| 23:06.07 | kblin | http://osuosl.org/ |
| 23:07.34 | JordiGH | debar: Your university needs to produce something like this: http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 23:07.44 | allman | Hi - take a look at http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/org-application/ to get some good ideas. Good luck! |
| 23:08.19 | JordiGH | debar: Here is my org's application: http://octave.org/wiki/index.php?title=GSoC_2012_application |
| 23:08.29 | kblin | !org application |
| 23:08.55 | kblin | !learn org application as take a look at http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/org-application/ to get some good ideas. |
| 23:08.55 | gsocbot | kblin: "org application" is take a look at http://www.booki.cc/gsoc-mentoring/org-application/ to get some good ideas. |
| 23:09.04 | kblin | allman: thanks :) |
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| 23:11.11 | JordiGH | debar: oops, I gave you the wrong wiki on the osuosl address. |
| 23:11.21 | JordiGH | I thought OSUOSL had an ideas page somewhere. |
| 23:11.45 | debar | is reading |
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| 23:19.04 | blankrider | howdy |
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| 23:54.01 | The_Tick | do organizations get paid that are mentor organizations? |
| 23:54.18 | carols | The_Tick: yes, for each student they mentor. |
| 23:54.19 | Catfish_Man | yes |
| 23:54.22 | The_Tick | is reading the admin agreement |
| 23:54.31 | The_Tick | can you decline payment? |
| 23:55.22 | The_Tick | at the mentor level I mean |
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| 23:56.30 | scorche|sh | mentors dont get paid - the organization gets paid and they choose what to do with the money |
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| 23:56.44 | scorche|sh | some choose to pay the mentors - others choose to use it to fund the org |
| 23:57.05 | carols | The_Tick: the organization can decline payment and the mentor can as well. |
| 23:57.06 | The_Tick | right, but can the org tell you to just not worry about that payment? |
| 23:57.14 | The_Tick | alright, and then can we skip the w9? :) |
| 23:57.20 | The_Tick | at the org level |
| 23:58.58 | carols | The_Tick: don't worry about this right now, honestly :-) when and if the org is accepted we can discuss the details of payment. |
| 23:59.08 | The_Tick | alright cool |
| 23:59.27 | The_Tick | I'm just worried about legal fees making any payment to the org being a wash, so a pointless waste of funds. :) |
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