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| 00:07.34 | LetterRip | I am feeling a bit dense - perhaps i'm overlooking something obvious :), i see my dashboard and have 2011, 2010, and 2009 past data, but for the 2012 there is nothing but a 'my requests; link |
| 00:07.59 | LetterRip | is there some sort of delay i should expect before the application appears on my dashboard? |
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| 00:44.57 | ryao | Does the Google Summer of Code require that students write code or is having them write documentation okay? |
| 00:46.20 | allman | GSoC is about code - sorry. |
| 00:46.36 | ryao | allman: Thanks. |
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| 00:55.00 | ries | GSOD?? |
| 00:55.28 | allman | Have a cookie :) |
| 00:55.43 | allman | with tea of course! |
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| 00:58.01 | thebolt | morning |
| 00:58.10 | allman | morning |
| 00:59.21 | ries | morning?? |
| 00:59.56 | allman | It's a figure of speech :) |
| 01:00.08 | ries | I got worried... |
| 01:00.18 | gevaerts | It's morning here! |
| 01:00.21 | allman | It's always morning somewhere. |
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| 01:01.52 | thebolt | no, its not |
| 01:01.57 | thebolt | here it actually is morning :) |
| 01:02.01 | thebolt | 9am |
| 01:02.40 | allman | Good morning, then. :) |
| 01:02.50 | ries | Good afternoon all! |
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| 01:04.58 | allman | Hello! |
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| 01:37.34 | allman | ttfn |
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| 03:37.06 | ryao | I didn't see the follow up conversation, but my reason for asking about documentation is that there are projects in which improving the documentation is perhaps more important than writing new code. |
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| 09:25.59 | Aadityaa | newbie for GSoC'12 |
| 09:26.01 | Aadityaa | help ? |
| 09:26.25 | kai | !faq | Aadityaa |
| 09:26.25 | gsocbot | Aadityaa: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
| 09:26.38 | Aadityaa | oh! thats I already know about it |
| 09:26.51 | kai | can't help with anything else unless you ask |
| 09:27.19 | kai | "help?" isn't very specific, and I only perform my famous mind-reading trick on tuesdays |
| 09:27.47 | Aadityaa | oh! thanks |
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| 09:28.48 | thebolt | hi kai |
| 09:28.54 | kai | hey thebolt |
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| 09:29.57 | kai | I'm beginning to really like gitolite, have been playing with it for a bit now |
| 09:30.03 | thebolt | trying to figure out how to run network and how to patch up phone in this house.. not easy |
| 09:30.17 | kai | now all I need to get set up is continuous integration for it :) |
| 09:30.20 | thebolt | yea, we run it for our company git repos, makes management decently easy |
| 09:30.55 | aried3r | Is it better than gitosis? |
| 09:30.58 | kai | I currently run CI Joe, which only works for a single repo |
| 09:31.23 | aried3r | Jenkins should work for more. |
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| 09:33.15 | Aadityaa | better you guys use google project hosting instead of GithHub |
| 09:33.16 | Aadityaa | :P |
| 09:34.19 | kai | aried3r: well, gitolite has the possibility of using per-branch permissions |
| 09:34.27 | aried3r | Oh, nice |
| 09:34.34 | kai | a feature that I intend to use for gitweb access to only the master branch |
| 09:35.05 | kai | working on scientific open-source projects sometimes means you can't publish code before you published the paper |
| 09:35.28 | kai | and gitolite should allow me to do this, but still keep a single git server |
| 09:36.19 | kai | apart from that, it seems like gitosis and gitolite have similar administrations |
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| 09:39.23 | thebolt | Aadityaa: we said gitolite not github.. we use it for closed internal repos :P |
| 09:40.28 | kai | does google code do git repos these days? |
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| 09:41.26 | kai | indeed it does |
| 09:41.47 | kai | makes sense, I guess, seeing how they now employ Junio |
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| 09:43.27 | kai | but anyway, what thebolt said :) |
| 09:44.58 | kai | aried3r: jenkins always looked like hopelessy overengineered for my needs, but maybe I've outgrown CI Joe. I'll have to give it a spin one of these days |
| 09:49.00 | |Kev| | kai: my project partner resisted using Hudson for a long time, when I suggested it, with exactly that response. Then he tried it himself at work and I got told to find somewhere to install it for Swift, so ... |
| 09:49.11 | |Kev| | It's fairly resource-intensive, though, that I won't deny. |
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| 09:54.06 | thomas_adam | So once I hit "Submit" at the bottom of the form for organisation mentoring applications, is that it? Do I need to do anything else? |
| 09:56.14 | Aadityaa | hey can anyone be a mentor |
| 09:56.19 | Aadityaa | if yes then how ? |
| 09:56.39 | |Kev| | Aadityaa: Approach the org you want to be a mentor for. |
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| 09:56.47 | |Kev| | Once the orgs have been accepted, probably. |
| 09:57.10 | |Kev| | But in general, no, orgs are only likely to use people they know from within the project as mentors. |
| 09:57.16 | |Kev| | As a gross generalisation. |
| 09:57.41 | Aadityaa | @Kev, hey plz help |
| 09:57.48 | Aadityaa | <|Kev> |
| 09:57.55 | Aadityaa | <|Kev|> |
| 09:58.03 | |Kev| | Please stop doing that. |
| 10:00.18 | Aadityaa | @Kev ok |
| 10:03.21 | kai | thomas_adam: well, assuming that you have the ideas page sorted out and all that, yes |
| 10:03.37 | thomas_adam | Cool. |
| 10:03.51 | kai | thomas_adam: at least I'm not aware of anything else needed :) |
| 10:04.07 | thomas_adam | It just isn't made very clear, that's all. |
| 10:04.53 | kai | thomas_adam: I don't remember doing anything more the last years, but I'm not sure if the feedback in melange changed |
| 10:05.05 | kai | the thing is that you can keep editing the application up to the deadline |
| 10:05.27 | kai | so there's no clear point where it'd tell you "application done, no need to do anything anymore" |
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| 10:06.14 | kai | |Kev|: for a more complex project, I'd see that, but for a couple of lines of python code I just need to run nosetests for, it seems like a bit too much |
| 10:06.29 | |Kev| | Could well be. |
| 10:06.43 | kai | I don't need Nabaztag notifies or anything ;) |
| 10:07.21 | |Kev| | I like getting XMPP messages when I break something. |
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| 10:08.02 | kai | we've got twitter notifications |
| 10:08.40 | kai | my co-dev seems to live on twitter and more or less ignore email :) |
| 10:09.05 | |Kev| | I have Twitter open, but I largely ignore it. |
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| 10:10.53 | kai | same here, unless it's our build bot :) |
| 10:11.26 | |Kev| | I wouldn't know who it is, I ignore it :) |
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| 10:20.20 | Aadityaa | so finally you guys going to take a part in #gsoc |
| 10:20.20 | Aadityaa | ? |
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| 10:26.28 | aaditya025 | help please |
| 10:26.52 | thiago | with what? |
| 10:27.06 | aaditya025 | to be as mentor in GSoC12 |
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| 10:28.12 | kai | aaditya025: if you ask a full-sentence question, we might try to help |
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| 10:28.49 | |Kev| | I already answered that question for you, above. |
| 10:29.01 | thiago | aaditya025: talk to the admin of the organisation you want to join |
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| 11:59.20 | Lolitha | Is there anyone using avahi or involved in development of avahi? |
| 12:03.16 | kai | !anyone | Lolitha |
| 12:03.17 | gsocbot | Lolitha: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 12:07.16 | Lolitha | Oops. Sorry my bad. Thanks for tip |
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| 13:50.37 | LetterRip | hi all when i look at my dashboard - i don't see anything but 'my requests' am I overlooking something? I'd like to get Blender Foundations form filled out for gsoc |
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| 13:50.51 | LetterRip | i have the forms from the previous years |
| 13:50.59 | LetterRip | in my dashboard |
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| 13:52.37 | JordiGH | Yeah, I had a hard time too finding the form... |
| 13:52.40 | JordiGH | Moment... |
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| 13:53.05 | JordiGH | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/application/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 13:58.00 | LetterRip | JordiGH: thanks, looking... |
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| 13:58.47 | LetterRip | JordiGH: greatly appreciated |
| 13:59.07 | JordiGH | Now go make Blender more awesome. |
| 14:02.36 | spectie | sup dudes |
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| 14:41.45 | JordiGH | The gsoc-discuss mailing list seems to be... |
| 14:41.53 | JordiGH | Populated... with confused students... |
| 14:44.49 | WinterMute | lol |
| 14:45.00 | WinterMute | !timeline |
| 14:45.00 | gsocbot | WinterMute: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 14:45.17 | JordiGH | A lot of them are calling me "madam" recently. |
| 14:45.20 | JordiGH | Sometimes "sir". |
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| 14:53.39 | kai | well, at least there's an awareness about the existence of different genders on the internet |
| 14:53.44 | kai | that's an improvement ;) |
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| 15:14.05 | downey | thanks carols for the handy IRC web resource :) |
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| 15:16.44 | Lennie | A lot of them seem to also not want to do any of their own research |
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| 15:17.25 | Lennie | wolfb, I admire your ability to respond in that group :) |
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| 15:17.50 | wolfb | Lennie, say what? |
| 15:18.19 | Lennie | wolfb, I have a tendency to avoid groups with a lot of posts :P |
| 15:19.31 | wolfb | heh |
| 15:19.49 | Lennie | Are you still knee deep in snow? |
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| 15:26.08 | thili_na | hey, anyone like to do the phpmyadmin project ? |
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| 17:19.35 | debar | heyyo! i got the other member of the official team to support gsoc application for our institution! |
| 17:20.07 | debar | tomorrow i will try to get some official personel to make the application |
| 17:22.20 | JordiGH | Extraordinary fortune! |
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| 18:06.17 | meflin | passes around chocolate |
| 18:07.05 | gevaerts | gets chocolate and coffee |
| 18:07.27 | meflin | found some local chocolate yesterday |
| 18:07.47 | carols | nice |
| 18:07.52 | carols | love local chocolate :-) |
| 18:08.12 | meflin | I looked for some before last MS .. but didn't find any |
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| 18:18.01 | meflin | perhaps I will be lucky enough to bring some |
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| 19:23.54 | Alex11223|3 | carols: hello :) Stephanie 2 days ago answered me (about missing prepaid card in my package) that she will answer in the next couple of days, but no answer yet :( Maybe you know something about this investigation? |
| 19:24.14 | carols | Alex11223|3: nope, i'm sorry, i don't. stephanie runs GCI :-) |
| 19:24.26 | carols | i'm sure she'll be in contact with you as soon as she's able |
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| 19:37.20 | JordiGH | When accepting students as an org, what about stuff like there being a library that is really important to us, but relatively tiny compared to us, and nobody really uses it but us, yet we're one of its biggest customers? |
| 19:37.55 | meflin | do not understand the question |
| 19:38.00 | JordiGH | Concretely, I'm thinking about proposing a project for Octave which is mostly about improving QHull, which is a small library nobody really uses directly and doesn't have much of a community of its own other than its own creator. |
| 19:38.18 | JordiGH | But it's really important for Octave. |
| 19:38.50 | meflin | oh you mean the real work will be on the lib? |
| 19:39.01 | JordiGH | Yeah. |
| 19:39.04 | JordiGH | And some Octave glue. |
| 19:39.48 | meflin | 2 part answer .. to make the lib better it might require a fork ( MENTOR start laying the groundwork now to prevent ) |
| 19:40.15 | JordiGH | No, there's no need to fork. |
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| 19:40.31 | meflin | part 2 this isn't a GSOC question its more of question of your project being able to work with other project or being willing to fork |
| 19:41.26 | JordiGH | Other people also use it. Just it seems like we're the ones making the most demands of it. |
| 19:41.50 | meflin | well in part that is a project-vs-project issue |
| 19:41.52 | JordiGH | My point as far as GSoC is concerned is, can an org accept *any* project the org thinks is worthwhile? |
| 19:41.55 | gevaerts | meflin: the way I understand it the question is "Can a gsoc project be about code that belongs to another organisation?" |
| 19:42.05 | gevaerts | Which is very much a gsoc question |
| 19:42.17 | meflin | gevaerts: thats the way I understood it .. and my opinon is ues |
| 19:42.22 | meflin | err yes |
| 19:42.30 | JordiGH | Is that a normative opinion? :P |
| 19:43.00 | meflin | see umbrella orgs |
| 19:43.03 | gevaerts | I do know that this has come up in earlier years, but I can't remember the conclusion |
| 19:43.07 | gevaerts | meflin: different again |
| 19:43.28 | meflin | that is also why I mentioned forks |
| 19:43.43 | meflin | _if_ mainline isn't intrested its time to fork |
| 19:43.57 | JordiGH | But we don't need to fork. The guy maintaining the library is making new releases mostly because it's us who send him patches. He says so as much. And other people besides us are also using it. |
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| 19:44.52 | meflin | JordiGH: so my sugestion is to talk to him about what you want to do |
| 19:45.04 | meflin | in your case I expect he will say awsome |
| 19:45.12 | JordiGH | Sigh, I feel like I'm not getting through. |
| 19:45.22 | JordiGH | As far as Google is concerned, do they care where the code ends up? |
| 19:46.18 | gevaerts | JordiGH: I suspect carols is the one who can answer, really |
| 19:46.30 | carols | hm? |
| 19:46.32 | carols | someone rang? |
| 19:46.35 | meflin | gevaerts: is right but I think not |
| 19:46.56 | meflin | carols: 1-2 page talk here ( for me ) |
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| 19:47.23 | carols | meflin: is there a question you needed answered? |
| 19:47.28 | meflin | summery .. projects wants to do a GSOC project that is 1/2 lib code that may or may not be accepted upstream |
| 19:47.33 | meflin | not I |
| 19:47.40 | JordiGH | It probably would be. |
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| 19:47.57 | JordiGH | My question is if it's ok for Octave to mentor a project that is mostly about a library external to Octave. |
| 19:48.10 | JordiGH | But a library that is important for Octave. |
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| 19:49.46 | meflin | play by play recap -> meflin: see umbrella -> gevaerts perhaps not ( can't say I disagree with gevaerts ) |
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| 19:51.16 | gevaerts | meflin: it's definitely not an umbrella situation as far as I see it. The other organisation isn't interested in gsoc as such, only in a possible resulting set of patches. In an umbrella setup the other organisation would provide mentors and ideas |
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| 19:51.57 | dodo_m | hi |
| 19:51.59 | meflin | gevaerts: well in part that is why I posted I do not disagree and I was talking about "if you are willing to fork" |
| 19:52.10 | meflin | on the other hand if you can get the lib maintainer on board ......... |
| 19:52.26 | shubble | Surely the problem here would be the legal stuff - the student assigns the code to the organisation, who could reassign it, so it's just whether the libary is under an approved OS lisence.. |
| 19:52.50 | meflin | also we have no idea how the lib maintainer looks at gsoc and/or contribs |
| 19:53.22 | JordiGH | Yeah, everything's free, no problem there. |
| 19:54.08 | meflin | when you uber-important FOSS thingy wont take your REQUIRED patches .. you frk into your own project |
| 19:54.46 | JordiGH | I generally only consider forking when we stop being friends. |
| 19:54.55 | JordiGH | And I try to stay friends for as long as possible. |
| 19:54.56 | meflin | I've mostly been on the refusnik side , but a project uses the code it needs |
| 19:54.59 | JordiGH | I hate forks. |
| 19:55.29 | meflin | the joke in my project ( not GSOC ) is that forks = devs +1 |
| 19:56.00 | meflin | but a project needs the code it needs |
| 19:56.16 | meflin | if you upsteam lib wont take the code and you need it you fork then its yours |
| 19:56.29 | JordiGH | Anyways, anyways, this is rreeallllly unrelated to what I'm asking. |
| 19:56.39 | meflin | if they do and other projects get the code? .. |
| 19:56.39 | JordiGH | Because I'm not asking about forking anything at all. |
| 19:56.47 | meflin | either project is a win IMO for GSOC |
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| 19:57.12 | JordiGH | And I would not fork this library under any reason. I can't maintain it and the guy is making releases because we send him patches. Zero forkability. |
| 19:57.46 | meflin | well then you should not do this project without at least a signoff of the maintainer |
| 19:57.54 | JordiGH | ... |
| 19:58.06 | JordiGH | You're not listening. :-( |
| 19:58.15 | JordiGH | My question is "what does Google think about all this?" |
| 19:58.58 | meflin | ah I see .. <sniped personal opinion> |
| 19:59.25 | meflin | carols: JordiGH wants a Google only opinion my bad for misunderstanding the issue |
| 19:59.53 | carols | i think i'm not responding because i'm still not understanding the issue. |
| 20:00.02 | carols | could someone email me with a concise question? |
| 20:00.07 | carols | i'm just really confused, i'm sorry. |
| 20:00.15 | JordiGH | I'll do it. Mentor list? |
| 20:00.32 | meflin | JordiGH: is the one who asked the question .. perhaps he could post it agains its been a few screens |
| 20:01.44 | meflin | you should sum up your question and get to carols for this purpose she is "google" |
| 20:01.44 | gevaerts | finds basically the same question asked last year |
| 20:01.55 | gevaerts | carols: I believe last year you said "yes" :) |
| 20:01.55 | JordiGH | gevaerts: Oh, nice, url? |
| 20:02.11 | carols | please just someone email me directly with the question. |
| 20:02.15 | carols | carols@google.com. |
| 20:02.24 | JordiGH | Sure. |
| 20:02.26 | carols | i really don't understand who's asking what of me at this point. |
| 20:02.48 | meflin | its been a bit of on ongoing discussion |
| 20:02.51 | JordiGH | carols: It's a question if as an org admin I can approve projects that are related to Octave but really are about a separately-maintained library. Can we propose/accept a project that is mostly about maintaining that library? |
| 20:03.08 | JordiGH | I'll email you. |
| 20:03.12 | carols | please do. |
| 20:03.15 | meflin | meh I already told you yes :P |
| 20:03.27 | meflin | then we got into this and that |
| 20:03.42 | JordiGH | meflin: You kept talking about fork this, fork that, fork you. |
| 20:04.05 | gevaerts | JordiGH: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20110325.html.gz at 19:04.07 and 19:08.00 |
| 20:04.17 | meflin | and I also told you to link up with lib-maintainer that you clam to be so in with :P |
| 20:05.05 | meflin | altho to be honesty I'm not worried about "google rules" but results |
| 20:05.45 | meflin | thats is why I keep telling you to get good with the maintainer or be willing to fork |
| 20:05.52 | JordiGH | Google puts the money, Google makes the rules. |
| 20:06.27 | meflin | I am willing to obay the rules |
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| 20:06.43 | meflin | _I_ am not willing to knowingly waist there $ |
| 20:07.15 | JordiGH | carols: Eh, never mind, gevaerts found it, you've already answered it. |
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| 20:07.21 | carols | ok |
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| 20:07.22 | carols | thanks |
| 20:07.48 | gevaerts | JordiGH: at least I hope I understood things correctly and that is indeed the same question :) |
| 20:08.00 | JordiGH | gevaerts: Yes, it is. |
| 20:08.01 | JordiGH | Thanks. |
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| 20:26.05 | meflin | puts up his 35 kinds just in case |
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| 20:28.02 | dadkins | oh, no....not biscuits! |
| 20:34.09 | Lennie | you should eat those now before gevaerts comes back |
| 20:34.27 | gevaerts | isn't *that* far away! |
| 20:34.36 | downey | this place doesn't have nearly enough chocolate |
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| 20:44.24 | carols | downey: in comparison to the mentor summit, *no one* has enough chocolate. |
| 20:44.59 | downey | carols: if there's any definition of overabundance, that would be it |
| 20:45.04 | carols | yep. |
| 20:45.39 | meflin | carols: after last MS that is a proven fact |
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| 20:47.39 | downey | For those craving: https://plus.google.com/photos/103006963928625760261/albums/posts/5666380000842511874 |
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| 20:49.56 | gevaerts | downey: I was trying to forget that! |
| 20:50.07 | downey | gevaerts: oops. :) |
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| 20:51.23 | dhaun | I have some Belgian chocolate left over from my seminar test run today - not nearly as much as THAT of course ... |
| 20:51.36 | dhaun | thinks we need a chocolcate over IRC protocol |
| 20:52.03 | downey | #chocolate is available |
| 20:53.10 | dhaun | gevaerts: lol |
| 20:53.17 | dhaun | not quite the same thing, though |
| 20:53.32 | gevaerts | At least the basics are there :) |
| 20:53.57 | dhaun | ah, so it's only an implementation issue? |
| 20:54.08 | gevaerts | I think so, yes |
| 20:54.34 | dhaun | Google Summer of Chocolate? Someone must have made that joke before ... |
| 20:57.06 | gevaerts | nods |
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| 20:58.14 | gevaerts | ojwb did, in November 2011 |
| 20:58.23 | downey | seems overdue |
| 20:58.27 | gevaerts | Logs are fun :) |
| 20:58.32 | ojwb | bows |
| 20:58.48 | merlijn | hiya, perhaps a silly question - but are the applications from 2011 still accessible on google-melange.com? |
| 20:59.05 | downey | merlijn: org apps are |
| 20:59.35 | merlijn | that's what I meant, but I can't seem to find the way to find them - or do I first need to reapply as org admin? |
| 20:59.42 | downey | merlijn: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2011#org_app |
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| 21:00.13 | merlijn | wow, you're a lifesaver - thanks! |
| 21:02.32 | dhaun | downey: thanks, I was looking for that, too :) |
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| 21:35.54 | JordiGH | This guy strikes me as strange... |
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| 21:35.56 | JordiGH | http://www.techandproject.com/google-summer-of-code-guide |
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| 21:36.16 | downey | gathers some spare change to buy the gsoc book |
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| 21:37.36 | Triskelios | obvious scam |
| 21:37.40 | JordiGH | He keeps advertising on the mailing list. |
| 21:38.05 | Triskelios | ban his ass |
| 21:38.10 | downey | JordiGH: it's very subtle advertisement |
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| 21:42.52 | JordiGH | Is GSoC advertising in a special way in India? |
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| 21:45.01 | schumaml | I don't think so |
| 21:45.27 | schumaml | I guess that there#s nothing wrong with selling the content, but using the Google and GSoC logos to promote it |
| 21:46.11 | JordiGH | Well, he's not saying that this is from Google itself, and there's a pretty clear disclaimer at the bottom, so it doesn't look like trademark infringement. |
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| 21:47.04 | JordiGH | I mean, dude's found a business, good for him. It seems legit, but a bit like selling air. Then again, people also manage to sell bottled water in places where tap water is potable. |
| 21:48.18 | downey | having the info in a paid-only book seems contrary to the open source ethos. i like the way open-advice.org is doing it ;) |
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| 21:49.20 | JordiGH | Eh, there's nothing wrong with selling open source/free software. |
| 21:51.53 | Crofton|work | so I can put place holders in the gsoc app and come back and update it, until the app locasing time? |
| 21:52.26 | JordiGH | Crofton|work: Only if it submits properly... if you're missing stuff, it won't work. |
| 21:52.58 | schumaml | in a talk I attended, RMS made it pretty clear that being allowed to sell software (to get money for beer) was one of the important aspects of Free |
| 21:53.04 | Crofton|work | yeah, I jsut need to put some stuff in to make it think I types meaningful content :) |
| 21:53.23 | Crofton|work | why are not free, unless we have the money to support ourselves |
| 21:53.29 | Crofton|work | we are not .... |
| 21:53.30 | MatthewWilkes | schumaml: Don't mention beer unless you mean it! ;) |
| 21:53.51 | JordiGH | Crofton|work: I tried that workaround, but I couldn't figure out one of the fields. I just left it open in the browser until I could get that information. |
| 21:54.05 | JordiGH | Crofton|work: But if you're able to submit it, it'll be there later for editing. |
| 21:54.16 | Crofton|work | so, previously like in one of the first couple of GS0C GNU radio participated |
| 21:54.20 | ojwb | JordiGH: pay-*only* is rather contrary |
| 21:54.34 | Crofton|work | and from what I hear, it was not a success :) |
| 21:54.48 | Crofton|work | but the student is still around and contributes occasionally |
| 21:54.58 | Crofton|work | so, are we a returning org, or new? |
| 21:54.58 | JordiGH | ojwb: Nah, there's nothing wrong with that either, refusing to distribute the program to you unless you pay for it. It's only wrong to try to forbid you from giving it to someone else after you've already paid me for it. |
| 21:54.59 | fraggle_ | does someone know what imply beeing an FOSS project that wish to mentor itself ? |
| 21:55.18 | ojwb | JordiGH: that's not the case with this ebook though, is it? |
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| 21:55.36 | JordiGH | ojwb: I don't know, doesn't seem to be obviously under a free license. |
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| 21:56.02 | ojwb | JordiGH: i'd be astonished if it was (unless it's just the flossmanuals student guide with a fancy cover) |
| 21:56.32 | JordiGH | I won't be spending 10 $ (what currency is that?) to find out it's not under a free license, though. And given the quality of his IRC advice... |
| 21:57.43 | JordiGH | It's sort of like the classics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
| 21:58.43 | ojwb | Crofton|work: how the students did doesn't really seem to affect that you are the same org |
| 21:59.40 | Crofton|work | more a case of we are not sure any of the GSoC admins will have any knowledge of us :) |
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| 22:00.40 | ojwb | suspects they have records |
| 22:01.03 | tomprince | Well, and if the student is still around, that could reasonably be counted as success. |
| 22:01.07 | Crofton|work | yeah |
| 22:01.08 | downey | Crofton|work: if you were around in the earlier years, there were far fewer orgs to keep track of than these days :) |
| 22:01.27 | Crofton|work | heh |
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| 22:02.40 | Crofton|work | where is the link id? |
| 22:03.31 | Crofton|work | as in how to I specify the backup admin? |
| 22:03.55 | downey | Crofton|work: they need to complete the org admin form first and create a link id |
| 22:04.01 | downey | then put that in your org app form |
| 22:04.13 | Crofton|work | yeah, I can't find it on my app thgouh :) |
| 22:04.50 | downey | Crofton|work: it's at the top right, under the logo, on the home page |
| 22:06.59 | Crofton|work | ah thanks |
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| 22:39.19 | Crofton|work | so given we have some prior experience with gsoc, would having a googler vouch for us be helpful? |
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| 22:46.38 | gsocbot | Talad: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
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