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| 06:54.22 | bharath | Does anyone looking to apply for mozilla |
| 06:54.32 | Zor | can someone participate as a student in GSoC and also be a backup admin for an org? |
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| 07:11.31 | ojwb | Zor: you might need to check that one with carols |
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| 07:20.20 | Catfish_Man | Zor: my recollection is no |
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| 10:20.42 | dreimark | !next |
| 10:20.43 | gsocbot | dreimark: "next" is Mar 9 - Mentoring organization application deadline. |
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| 10:28.44 | MatthewWilkes | Brits: Farnell now has raspberry preorders up: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=2081185 |
| 10:28.47 | MatthewWilkes | go go go :) |
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| 10:43.07 | borax12 | hello there |
| 10:43.57 | borax12 | i wanted to know where exactly do we need to discuss the application ideas with mentoring organisations |
| 10:43.59 | borax12 | ? |
| 10:44.15 | borax12 | when the list of accepted orgranisation is out |
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| 10:46.49 | borax12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:52.52 | tomprince | borax12: On whatever the prefered channel of communication is for the given org. It could be mail, oor irc, or web fora. |
| 10:53.22 | borax12 | ok.and one more thing ,do i need to also start hunting down the organisation or else wait for the list to come out |
| 10:53.23 | borax12 | ? |
| 10:53.36 | borax12 | and then filter out the org as per my field of interest |
| 10:53.48 | tomprince | It doesn't hurt to get involved early. |
| 10:54.12 | borax12 | but how would i know which org would be participating? |
| 10:55.49 | tomprince | Well, you can see what org particiapted last year, and some indication of those that are applying this year. |
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| 10:56.45 | tomprince | And, in any case, getting involved now, even if the org doesn't end up getting selected is a good thing. |
| 10:57.24 | anantzoid | Can I know which organizations have applied till now? |
| 10:58.35 | tomprince | I don't think there is a list of orgs that have applied, but most orgs will have an idea page, and probably some indication that they will be applying. |
| 10:59.18 | borax12 | where on the gsoc 2011 list or on their own websites and forums? |
| 10:59.50 | tomprince | On their own sites. |
| 11:00.30 | tomprince | But you get pointers to all the orgs that participated last year (and many are likely applying again) from the gsoc site. |
| 11:00.45 | borax12 | yeah thats true indeed |
| 11:00.58 | borax12 | and yeah there was thing that was lurking in my mind |
| 11:01.00 | borax12 | and that is |
| 11:01.11 | borax12 | how do i get myself involved with a project |
| 11:01.43 | borax12 | like i am an android app developer and basically havent had any chance of doing any system programming |
| 11:01.52 | borax12 | so its like do i still stand a chance |
| 11:01.54 | borax12 | ? |
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| 11:02.34 | tomprince | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#contact_before |
| 11:03.11 | borax12 | thanks for the link |
| 11:03.30 | borax12 | well that said it all sums up to a exploartion beforehand |
| 11:04.15 | borax12 | but i guess i will be rather waiting for the ideas list to come |
| 11:04.37 | borax12 | coz suggesting a project on my own would not be beneficial as of now |
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| 11:06.17 | borax12 | ok then thanks tom for helping out |
| 11:06.24 | borax12 | tc |
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| 11:19.50 | anantzoid | Do I have to open up the details of each project to see what framework are they based upon? |
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| 11:32.31 | thebolt | anantzoid: framework? that question only makes sense in the context of a few specific projects.. |
| 11:32.37 | thebolt | so yes :) |
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| 11:35.32 | anantzoid | I mean programming language too. And are there any theoretical or research projects? |
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| 11:39.09 | thebolt | well, at least earlier years once the orgs were accepted they could add "tags" to describe themselves |
| 11:39.24 | thebolt | and most orgs would add programming language etc there |
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| 11:46.56 | kblin | hey thebolt |
| 11:47.08 | kblin | how's home improvent coming along? |
| 11:47.32 | thebolt | kblin: almost finished power in work room |
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| 11:47.38 | thebolt | still have to drag some cat5 cables there |
| 11:48.00 | thebolt | and then drill a hole to the livingroom.. just need to see where i can find a 40cm concrete drill, about 10mm wide |
| 11:48.12 | thebolt | i know my dad has one, and machine for it |
| 11:48.15 | thebolt | but its 8000km away |
| 11:48.37 | thebolt | now its about to be dinner time though |
| 11:48.39 | kblin | I'd dcc you mine, but my matter scanner is acting up |
| 11:48.46 | thebolt | :) |
| 11:48.48 | kblin | bon appetit, then ; |
| 11:48.50 | kblin | :) |
| 11:49.04 | thebolt | thank you, ttyl |
| 11:52.02 | anantzoid | If i start contributing to an open source project, and what if it's not there in soc2012? |
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| 11:55.29 | kblin | anantzoid: then you get to be a contributor to that project just like every other contributor to that project |
| 11:55.56 | Nightrose | and it looks good on your application for whatever other project you chose for gsoc of you do |
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| 13:03.22 | mlankhorst | usually, but with so many people in here just saying hi to everyone adds a lot of noise :) |
| 13:04.05 | |Kev| | mlankhorst: hi! |
| 13:04.07 | gevaerts | mlankhorst: hi! |
| 13:04.18 | |Kev| | ^5s gevaerts |
| 13:04.23 | mlankhorst | evil :P |
| 13:04.32 | gevaerts | xor 5? :) |
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| 13:05.05 | |Kev| | High Five :p |
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| 13:05.25 | gevaerts | higher gives |Kev| :) |
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| 15:50.25 | lessthanoptimal | anyone know if it is possible for a one person project to act as a mentor? |
| 15:50.45 | lessthanoptimal | the application form requires a backup person, which implies at least two people |
| 15:51.44 | |Kev| | It seems unlikely. |
| 15:52.13 | chrisoelmueller | i'd suggest looking for an umbrella org that fits your project instead |
| 15:52.20 | |Kev| | Projects that size fit under umbrellas though. |
| 15:52.29 | |Kev| | Damn, beaten. |
| 15:52.40 | lessthanoptimal | hmm that's an idea I haven't thought of |
| 15:52.43 | Ivanovic | lessthanoptimal: the project applying has to be "established" and "known to work" |
| 15:53.01 | Ivanovic | so going for an umbrella is the best approach since you tend to not have those two required things with "one person projects" |
| 15:53.17 | lessthanoptimal | its new but fits that criteria. already seeing it referenced in papers and such |
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| 15:54.25 | |Kev| | I'd see if there's an appropriate umbrella. |
| 15:55.12 | lessthanoptimal | yep that's what I'm going to try to do. will be hard to pull off given the time constraints. |
| 15:55.56 | lessthanoptimal | thanks for the suggestion guys |
| 15:57.26 | vinzz | what should i do to be a part of elgg organsation? |
| 15:57.59 | chrisoelmueller | usually, the org admin overhead is more huge than looking for an umbrella |
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| 16:00.47 | mlankhorst | yeah |
| 16:00.56 | mlankhorst | I'd suggest the conservancy :) |
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| 16:03.25 | lessthanoptimal | mlankhorst: is that an actual organization or a joke that flew over my head? |
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| 16:07.16 | mlankhorst | software freedom conservancy |
| 16:07.45 | mlankhorst | http://sfconservancy.org/ |
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| 16:08.18 | dhaun | lessthanoptimal: I guess mlankhorst meant http://sfconservancy.org/ |
| 16:08.18 | SweetieBelle | dhaun linked Software Freedom Conservancy |
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| 16:08.54 | lessthanoptimal | the first organization the popped into my head was apache commons. or finding a smaller but established group. |
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| 16:12.27 | mlankhorst | it's recommended to join something before the final evaluation though, sooner is better :) |
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| 16:17.32 | lessthanoptimal | lack of a backup admin is what prevented me from filling out the application and lead me here. so unless I do something "shady" I have to partner up before. |
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| 16:19.01 | mlankhorst | you need a backup admin if you want to apply to gsoc anyway, only established projects :) |
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| 16:25.10 | BoundinCode | My 18th birthday isn't until May. Is there anyway I can still participate? |
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| 16:26.47 | Mirrakor | Next year ;) |
| 16:27.00 | dhaun | BoundinCode: afraid not - cutoff date for this year's GSoC is April 23, as stated in the FAQ |
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| 16:30.41 | BoundinCode | yeah, I read the FAQ. Hoped there could be an exception though :( Oh well. Thanks |
| 16:32.16 | dhaun | BoundinCode: legal reasons, AFAIK - no exceptions |
| 16:33.50 | BoundinCode | damn... just a month late. |
| 16:34.23 | tomprince | lessthanoptimal: Does your project have active users? |
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| 16:36.50 | lessthanoptimal | yep. was also considering trying to see if anyone of them might help out with gsoc. http://boofcv.org if you are curious what I'm talking about |
| 16:36.52 | SweetieBelle | lessthanoptimal linked Main Page - BoofCV |
| 16:37.30 | showard | Hi - I have a question about the organizational application. I'm trying to submit, but it keeps on saying "link ID doesn't exist" to my back-up admin. He has a google account, but not signed up on melange yet. Is that what "does not exist" means? He has to sign up on melange? Thanks |
| 16:37.57 | dhaun | showard: exactly :) |
| 16:39.45 | gevaerts | showard: also, link id != email address |
| 16:40.54 | showard | is link ID the melange log in or something else? (if I'm missing a manual or FAQ somewhere, sorry! please point me to it and I can take care of it myself) |
| 16:42.12 | kblin | showard: he needs to sign up in melange |
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| 16:42.41 | kblin | showard: and he gets to pick a username there |
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| 16:42.57 | kblin | it's sneakily called "link id" on that form, iirc |
| 16:43.27 | showard | great, thanks - I was confused because i picked my username last year and apparently picked the same name as my google account, so this year I thought they were the same thing... |
| 16:44.25 | kblin | no worries :) |
| 16:45.11 | dhaun | wasn't there a bug report to name it something else, since we have that confusion about the link id every year? |
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| 16:46.48 | kblin | possibly |
| 16:47.08 | dhaun | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1186 |
| 16:47.09 | SweetieBelle | dhaun linked Issue 1186 - soc - Eradicate the term "link id" from the UI - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting |
| 16:47.14 | dhaun | status: fixed :P |
| 16:47.39 | dhaun | (and whoever owns this SweetieBelle bot - can you shut it down, please?) |
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| 16:49.14 | dhaun | thanks, kblin |
| 16:49.22 | kblin | ok, if someone feels they really need a bot in here, please make sure the ops know who you are |
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| 16:52.05 | mlankhorst | was toying around a bit, but bot won't autorejoin |
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| 16:52.39 | kblin | mlankhorst: oh, ok |
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| 16:53.00 | kblin | it's just that bots that talk when not asked are extremely irritating |
| 16:53.14 | kblin | and please set something useful into whois |
| 16:53.17 | mlankhorst | it only parses links, I find it useful in other channels :) |
| 16:53.47 | mlankhorst | sure I'll see if I can get it cloaked |
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| 17:46.05 | findow | Hello everyone ! |
| 17:47.13 | findow | Is here anyone who can help choose an organization for my application ? |
| 17:47.55 | meflin | as a student? mentor? watcher? |
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| 17:53.47 | findow | As a student . |
| 17:54.21 | dhaun | findow: did you see the student guide yet? if not, go and read it :) |
| 17:54.26 | meflin | well at this time there are no organizations ... you can look at last years list and get an idea ... also I would start by asking yourself what you are intersted in |
| 17:54.33 | meflin | this also |
| 17:55.06 | findow | I have read the guidelines on GSOC's website. |
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| 17:55.33 | dhaun | findow: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 17:56.13 | findow | I am mostly interested in javaScript and C++. I want to know how should I choose an organization such that my chances of getting accepted increase. |
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| 17:57.06 | meflin | well I didn't ask what languages you know :) |
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| 17:58.06 | meflin | figure out what you kind of things you want to work on , get to know orgs who do such things and get involved |
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| 17:59.49 | findow | I am applying for Mozilla but should I apply in any other org also? |
| 18:00.16 | findow | I mean for backup. |
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| 18:00.45 | findow | Is it a good idea in applying more than one org or should I concentrate on just one ? |
| 18:01.25 | dhaun | findow: it will of course increase your chances of being accepted, but you won't have the time for more than 2, maybe 3, proper applications anyway |
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| 18:04.03 | findow | How should I prove them that I'll be the right person to select ? Do they expect any kind of prior development experince with their org? |
| 18:04.07 | meflin | _I_ think if you already have a project that is interests you should spend any extra time working on that project and let the GSOC chips fall where they may |
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| 18:04.47 | dhaun | findow: seriously, read the Student Guide - it's all discussed in there |
| 18:04.51 | meflin | every org uses its own judgment ... being involved ( fixing some bugs ect ) does tend to help |
| 18:05.34 | findow | I think I should read this guide first. :) |
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| 19:32.06 | Eli_ | Are organizations able to provide additional funding to students over the 5000 they receive from google? |
| 19:33.17 | meflin | up to the org .. |
| 19:33.30 | meflin | I personaly find the question itself offensive |
| 19:33.47 | Eli_ | How so? |
| 19:34.23 | meflin | I mentor and admin for $0 realy what more do you want? |
| 19:35.36 | Eli_ | In the case that we wanted to provide the opportunity for the student to relocate for the summer and work a fair amount, I would want the student to get paid more than just 5k |
| 19:35.37 | ThomasWaldmann | and at other places you have to pay $5000 to learn that much :D |
| 19:35.57 | meflin | there is no reason to relocate to provide "more" |
| 19:36.24 | Eli_ | relocation would definitely provide more of an experience... |
| 19:36.38 | meflin | no it wouldn't |
| 19:36.56 | Eli_ | :) |
| 19:37.11 | meflin | working with a OSS comunitie its a given that you are working in TZ across time zones |
| 19:38.02 | dhaun | Eli_: it's a bit odd, but not against the rules (at least by my understanding) - Google will pay the $5000, the rest would be up to you |
| 19:40.27 | meflin | ponders how to relocate one of his last year students ( this year a mentor ) across continents |
| 19:40.41 | Eli_ | meflin, sure, I understand that and totally agree. I guess there is a line about GSOC in terms of just contributing a bit to an open source project, and an internship like opportunity to work on an open source project |
| 19:41.11 | meflin | that student was _in_ session for GSOC |
| 19:42.08 | Eli_ | ? |
| 19:42.22 | meflin | completed project, expanded projeect , finished all that and graduated while taking classes at the same time |
| 19:42.31 | meflin | this year is a mentor |
| 19:42.52 | meflin | not everyone in the world is "off" from uni |
| 19:43.35 | Eli_ | That's true, but it could be an option we provide, obviously not a requirement for GSOC |
| 19:43.39 | meflin | how exactlly do you propose to get visa's for you students? |
| 19:44.23 | meflin | option? sure anyone intersted we have an ovfice and a flat if you dont have anyting to do? cool |
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| 19:45.36 | Eli_ | It's a bit different for us, but yes. :) |
| 19:45.54 | Eli_ | and for the student obviously |
| 19:46.28 | meflin | oss wise I think its better or irc/email the guy down the block and get him used to world wide dev |
| 19:48.34 | meflin | obviously I have some strong opinions on this matter ;) |
| 19:48.52 | Eli_ | Sure, from an OSS perspective, but from a personal growth perspective, getting a sudo internship and being able to work at facebook (we aren't facebook, just using it as an example) for the summer while working entirely on an open source project |
| 19:49.08 | Eli_ | seems like it would be a pretty cool thing as well |
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| 19:51.00 | meflin | I could actualy quibble :) but I dont think it advances the topic :) |
| 19:51.16 | Eli_ | Nope, we are way past the actual question, just having a discussion. :P |
| 19:51.39 | Eli_ | But I do have to head out, good talk. ^_^ |
| 19:52.16 | meflin | heh well I think learning to talk past TZ's and lang's is a very very good thing :) |
| 19:52.37 | dfighter | tbh if anything people should get used to telecommuting |
| 19:52.40 | dfighter | not the other way around |
| 19:52.49 | dfighter | especially when producing virtual goods |
| 19:53.00 | dfighter | cheaper for the company ( no need for an office for the workers ) |
| 19:53.17 | dfighter | and actually it's a trend nowadays |
| 19:53.26 | dfighter | so what you are proposing Eli_ sounds kinda backwards to me |
| 19:53.46 | meflin | well my opinion on this mater is working on oss ( my non-gsoc project ) the main movers and shakers are in france and germany ( I'm in the usa ) |
| 19:53.48 | dfighter | I'm sure it's exciting for some people, but I find working from home a lot better |
| 19:54.22 | dfighter | this way I am not taken from the environment I am used to and my personal relationships ( that are here where I live obviously ) |
| 19:54.26 | meflin | my GSOC project has many TZ's as well |
| 19:54.30 | meflin | and countries |
| 19:56.15 | meflin | I wouldn't mind being put up for a month or so by .. ANY of my out of country dev's any project :) |
| 19:56.23 | dfighter | ofc |
| 19:56.27 | dfighter | but that's vacation, not work :P |
| 19:56.33 | meflin | mostly so I could eat my way around the world |
| 19:56.36 | meflin | exactly :D |
| 19:56.54 | dfighter | so sure if they have the funds for it, offer a 2 week vacation or something in the end of the program |
| 19:57.17 | dfighter | for that it's easier to get the visa too |
| 19:57.20 | meflin | hmm that isn't a bad idea |
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| 19:57.52 | dfighter | yea meflin |
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| 19:58.06 | dfighter | in fact it could even be made a prize for the best performing student or something |
| 19:58.33 | meflin | if the travel expensise work out and he doesn't GSOC-MS this year I would like host Sebastion for a cupa :D |
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| 19:59.10 | meflin | ah well hard for my org 3 slot ... ;) last year 3 5 star students ( 2 of them mentors this year ) |
| 19:59.30 | Eli_ | I totally agree with the whole telecommuting thing, it's fantastic, and makes the programming experience awesome. I feel like if the student had the opportunity to go to Google for the summer and work at the HQ in mountain view, get paid 17k and work full time on the open source project and meet other googlers and be around that area, it would be a greater opportunity than to work remotely... |
| 19:59.31 | Eli_ | ...and get the skill of learning how to work remotely. |
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| 19:59.47 | Eli_ | It's interesting to me that you guys disagree, I guess just totally different mindsets lol |
| 20:00.24 | dfighter | but you are not Google |
| 20:00.37 | meflin | and $ IMO isn't the real thing |
| 20:00.49 | dfighter | sure if it was one of the big names at a nice place where I can start the morning by jogging on the ocean shore in southern Cali |
| 20:00.52 | dfighter | then I'd consider it |
| 20:00.59 | Eli_ | ;) exactly |
| 20:01.03 | dfighter | but just for a normal office job... |
| 20:01.05 | dfighter | never |
| 20:01.31 | meflin | I dont like the ocean and I could never work at a place as large as G |
| 20:01.48 | dfighter | why not? |
| 20:02.04 | dfighter | it's actually pretty nice to work at such places, probably they have a nice gym too |
| 20:02.18 | meflin | well i've been to the last MS's |
| 20:02.22 | dfighter | when you are trying to solve some problem and it doesn't come to you right away, you go to the gym |
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| 20:02.24 | dfighter | work out a bit |
| 20:02.33 | Eli_ | dfighter, we are about twice as big as google in terms of yearly revenue |
| 20:02.34 | meflin | I like a much more personal environemtn |
| 20:02.35 | dfighter | and while showering afterwards suddenly your brain clicks |
| 20:02.57 | dfighter | that's nice Eli_ |
| 20:03.09 | meflin | when my apartment flood in a 100+year storm .. I called boss |
| 20:03.12 | dfighter | but you are still NOT Google :P |
| 20:03.37 | meflin | I need some personal advice I call boss |
| 20:03.59 | meflin | electrical pannel blew up in my condo? .. boss |
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| 20:04.58 | meflin | large and small places are very different |
| 20:05.35 | meflin | I woudln't be surprised that large and small orgs are almost as different |
| 20:06.25 | dfighter | yea |
| 20:06.32 | meflin | my org every mentor is expected to mentor any question put to them by any student |
| 20:06.49 | meflin | even non-mentorrs are also expected |
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| 20:08.48 | meflin | a lot of that also is being small |
| 20:09.12 | meflin | if my org had 40-50 slots hehe I would probably just run away and scream |
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| 20:23.25 | pratyush | !numapps |
| 20:23.26 | gsocbot | pratyush: "numapps" is 417 mentoring orgs applied and 175 were accepted in 2011; 5474 proposals were submitted by 3731 students, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 367 mentoring orgs applied and 151 were accepted; 5539 proposals were submitted by 3464 students, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 20:30.12 | meflin | pratyush: I am aware of those stats .. not sure I understand the point? |
| 20:30.40 | pratyush | meflin : I just wanted to have a look |
| 20:31.24 | meflin | chances are .. thin? for orgs and students ::) |
| 20:32.15 | gevaerts | Not for good orgs and good students :) |
| 20:33.04 | gevaerts | That's not entirely true of course, but such stats are still misleading |
| 20:33.19 | gevaerts | There weren't *anywhere* near 5539 acceptable proposals |
| 20:33.26 | meflin | heh well most of _our_ rejects and just crazy stuff |
| 20:33.53 | meflin | like ppl who dont read our main page and have 1 a bad proposal and 2 its off topic |
| 20:34.03 | meflin | 60% last year where those |
| 20:34.53 | meem1029 | So basically if you are a competent student and put effort into your proposal you'll be fine? |
| 20:35.04 | meflin | its actually easier to to point out a lame proposal then define a great one |
| 20:35.29 | meflin | perhaps |
| 20:35.44 | meflin | the trick is "competent" |
| 20:36.00 | pratyush | meflin: which org do you belong to ? |
| 20:36.11 | meflin | kernel.org |
| 20:36.23 | meflin | not to be confused with linux kernel development |
| 20:36.24 | pratyush | I am a GSoC 2011 student from Sahana |
| 20:36.32 | gevaerts | It also depends a bit on the organisation. Some of them are much more popular than others, which means they'll have to reject some good proposals |
| 20:36.42 | meflin | we are not very popular :D |
| 20:36.48 | meflin | and also very small |
| 20:37.33 | meflin | we have had awesome sucess tho .. .. 3 of 3 passes , 2 of them are both project devs and mentors this year, one is new project lead |
| 20:40.23 | meflin | the good proposals ( we interviewer everyone ) are in the details and such |
| 20:40.49 | meflin | some are just off topic, some sound good but when you talk to them you run away screaming |
| 20:41.12 | gevaerts | nods |
| 20:41.19 | meflin | some sound meh .. but when you talk to them you realize they have a major hardon for there thingy and its a good thingy |
| 20:42.31 | meflin | our 3rd last year was one of those and we where right on the bubble of turning the slot back .. he exceed expectations and coded a fulling working driver |
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| 20:43.32 | meflin | from 0 |
| 20:44.18 | meflin | for extra fun this year I get to be admin so I basically just can't stack up :D |
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| 21:00.29 | cinemascop89 | meflin: you say when you talk to them you run screaming, could you be more specific? |
| 21:01.02 | meflin | many are off topic |
| 21:01.31 | meflin | and many do not undeerstand how to do the simplest things in $lang or even shell |
| 21:02.01 | cinemascop89 | oh, i see |
| 21:02.33 | cinemascop89 | looks like lots of people apply without even knowing what are they applying for.. |
| 21:02.43 | meflin | for 2 years I have interviewed very app with the old admin |
| 21:03.04 | meflin | last year interview 2 I told old-admin "kill me now" |
| 21:03.35 | cinemascop89 | haha that's bad... |
| 21:04.22 | meflin | it was |
| 21:04.25 | cinemascop89 | in wich area you work? (drivers, networking, etc) |
| 21:04.44 | meflin | systems administrator tools |
| 21:06.53 | meflin | so drivers. remote botting, kerneloops, distributed mirror statstics .. and a few other things |
| 21:08.31 | cinemascop89 | i see, so not knowing shell is something to be worried about... |
| 21:08.35 | cinemascop89 | i understand you |
| 21:09.09 | meflin | well no |
| 21:10.17 | meflin | for the years I've mentored I doubt any of my students knew shell a bare fraction of what I did .. or about how unixy thingys work ( like evn and fork ) |
| 21:11.21 | meflin | what I worry about is depth of know how , prove of team player and well not all just about you , and dedication to your topic |
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| 21:16.00 | meflin | run screening is perhaps best put as this .. lets make a linux kernel drive ( didn't read or page !) can't talk about evn, C, how to get into mainline |
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| 21:17.19 | cinemascop89 | oh, right |
| 21:17.58 | meflin | last year out paper submits where 3 good 7 bad |
| 21:18.25 | meflin | 1 good on interview whas hopeless . one bad was intersting |
| 21:19.06 | cinemascop89 | so you interview everyone no matter how bad it proposal was? |
| 21:19.30 | meflin | yes ( as new top admin not so sure this year lets see how many we git if accepted ) |
| 21:20.19 | meflin | last year a BAD submission was our 3rd guy... exceeded expectations |
| 21:20.45 | meflin | sloging thourgh 1 hour intervies does .. realy sucks tho |
| 21:21.33 | meflin | as a small org ir helps tho .. |
| 21:22.12 | meflin | we only want ppl that we think are 75% sucess and we are even willlling to switch tracks for the canidate that mpressees |
| 21:22.57 | cinemascop89 | thats nice.. |
| 21:23.19 | cinemascop89 | hope every organization i submit application are that way... |
| 21:23.26 | meflin | well small is easyer in a way |
| 21:23.32 | cinemascop89 | i knda suck at writing... |
| 21:24.10 | kain88 | meflin: what organization are you working for? |
| 21:24.16 | meflin | kernel.org |
| 21:24.34 | meflin | extra-weird :D |
| 21:25.37 | meflin | besides its not abnormal for ppl to misunderstand my org here .. GSOC-MS almost everyoine has no Idea what I do :P |
| 21:27.16 | meflin | the thing is .. writing a good email thingy doesn't maek you a good student |
| 21:27.43 | billybob | then is it more import to sell the idea clearly? |
| 21:28.14 | meflin | being clear is a aswome thingy |
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| 21:28.34 | meflin | understanding things that few ppl understand is good 2 |
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| 21:28.58 | ojwb | now there's a quote: "being clear is a aswome thingy" |
| 21:28.58 | meflin | we punt now foew apps to other orgs |
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| 21:29.27 | meflin | heh |
| 21:30.26 | ojwb | would certainly agree not to be put off by the accepted:submitted ratios |
| 21:31.40 | cinemascop89 | ojwb: i dont know, actually im very optimistic about them.. |
| 21:32.18 | meflin | the submisons make me eant to die |
| 21:32.30 | ojwb | there's a lot of total junk (one line proposals, off-topic proposals presumably sent to 20 orgs, just a cut and paste from the ideas list and/or generic bio) |
| 21:32.33 | meflin | the students .... |
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| 21:33.03 | meflin | to live is so shallow about how I feal |
| 21:33.42 | meflin | ojwb: we get 2 page off topics :P |
| 21:34.57 | meflin | and its not the ratio that botthers me |
| 21:36.23 | meflin | hmm actualy the most bothering is the good proposal in email . that when you interview is well scarrsy |
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| 21:39.22 | meflin | knowing the lang isn't as much IMO as knowing the code base and even less being able to thin aoutside the box ( like when you grill ) |
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| 21:41.53 | kain88 | what do you mean by knowing the code base. something as the linux kernel is far to complex to get to know well in a few days |
| 21:42.20 | cinemascop89 | hey, btw, is there any place when i can see the organizations that applyied so far? |
| 21:42.40 | gevaerts | no |
| 21:42.47 | mlankhorst | just ask the organizations you want to work with if they applied |
| 21:42.47 | meflin | kai: you just make yourself a poster child ::) |
| 21:43.16 | meflin | kain88: |
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| 21:44.15 | cinemascop89 | ok, thanks |
| 21:46.55 | meflin | replaces kain88 with super small l shell script |
| 21:47.01 | billybob | \r |
| 21:47.28 | mlankhorst | escapes meflin |
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| 21:48.29 | meflin | noooooooooooooo |
| 21:48.35 | meflin | has been escaped |
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| 22:49.42 | ertert | Hi.. I was wondering how does this chat start..!! Can anybody help me ? |
| 22:51.42 | ertert | I am not sure if I am connected ? Can anybody please reply to me |
| 22:52.12 | moriginal | ertert, you are |
| 22:52.32 | ertert | oh. thank you :) |
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