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| 00:23.14 | ojwb | hmm, I thought I'd seen an FAQ somewhere about how to describe GSoC on your CV/resume |
| 00:23.34 | gevaerts | ojwb: last time I looked it's not there |
| 00:23.46 | ojwb | it indeed isn't in the FAQ |
| 00:23.49 | gevaerts | carols said she'd look into adding that a few weeks ago |
| 00:23.51 | ojwb | but I'm sure I've seen something |
| 00:23.53 | ojwb | ok |
| 00:24.27 | ojwb | just had a mail from a student including "I have relevant experience as an open source C++ developer at Google. Inc USA" |
| 00:24.34 | ojwb | which meant he did GSoC last year |
| 00:24.49 | ojwb | i don't think it was intending to mislead, as he'd linked to it |
| 00:25.07 | thiago | yeah, there are better ways of listing GSoC participation |
| 00:25.40 | ojwb | it's not totally easy to describe in a way which makes sense to someone who hasn't heard of it |
| 00:25.51 | thiago | right |
| 00:25.58 | ojwb | I was just thinking I should point to the thing I remembered seeing |
| 00:26.11 | thiago | I don't remember how it was written in one CV I saw |
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| 02:40.14 | MatthewWilkes | I invariably make a stupid spelling error |
| 02:40.24 | MatthewWilkes | and can't reply to correct it, as it'd waste loads of people's time |
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| 04:35.19 | mxprm | hello, anyone here going to participate with umit in GSoC? |
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| 04:37.27 | mxprm | hello, anyone here going to participate in GSoC umit? |
| 04:37.41 | meflin | umit? |
| 04:38.09 | mxprm | yes |
| 04:38.30 | meflin | what is umit |
| 04:38.44 | klocatelli | one of the GSoC orgs |
| 04:38.52 | mxprm | participate in GSoC with umit |
| 04:39.00 | klocatelli | network stuff |
| 04:39.06 | mxprm | yeah |
| 04:39.07 | meflin | never heard of it |
| 04:39.10 | klocatelli | (and no, i'm not) |
| 04:39.53 | meflin | what does it do? |
| 04:40.11 | klocatelli | maybe you'd like to check it out https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2012/umit |
| 04:41.17 | meflin | sorta intersting but I would rather have a SA-SA exlilnation then a burb |
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| 04:42.14 | mxprm | i want contribute with the interface |
| 04:42.21 | klocatelli | sa-sa exlilnation? |
| 04:43.07 | mxprm | ? |
| 04:43.14 | meflin | explination |
| 04:43.54 | klocatelli | what's the sa-sa? |
| 04:44.27 | meflin | SystemsAdmisitrator |
| 04:44.38 | klocatelli | oh, that makes sense |
| 04:45.33 | meflin | hrmph |
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| 04:46.06 | meflin | seemed interesting would have been nice to hear from "them" why this stuff is good |
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| 04:57.32 | meflin | hmm how old is solaris 11? |
| 04:58.34 | Triskelios | it was released last November |
| 04:58.54 | meflin | huh not that old |
| 04:59.30 | meflin | so this fight will be old school :) .... thanks |
| 04:59.59 | Triskelios | not sure what you mean by that |
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| 05:00.43 | meflin | lead dev is "broken" I am "broken on centos5!" |
| 05:00.57 | meflin | altho after that it get quite a bit more complicated |
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| 05:19.00 | meflin | oo dang win! |
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| 06:01.38 | o0o0o | _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ |
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| 06:03.31 | klocatelli | indeed |
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| 06:05.39 | mxprm | Hi... again |
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| 06:05.50 | mxprm | one question |
| 06:05.55 | mxprm | when doing scanning in umit...you have to be as root, i can doing it a scanning as a normal user? |
| 06:06.46 | meflin | no idea .. some other tools I know of require root |
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| 06:07.53 | mxprm | uhmm |
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| 06:08.00 | mxprm | bad idea? |
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| 06:11.27 | klocatelli | why? |
| 06:12.16 | thebolt | mxprm: this is not a general help channel for all projects included in gsoc.. if you want help with them go to their support channels |
| 06:12.24 | thebolt | (such as their dedicated irc channels if they have any) |
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| 06:12.46 | mxprm | ok.. sorry |
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| 06:52.19 | vivek1729 | is wordpress participating in gsoc 2012? |
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| 08:54.19 | mikhas | hi, any news on that follow-up meeting for rejected org applications yet? |
| 08:55.13 | pizte | mikhas: they were published on friday |
| 08:55.32 | pizte | oh, you mean the meeting |
| 08:56.08 | mikhas | yep |
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| 09:25.46 | teuf | hey, what can I do when http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 shows no dashboard for me while I'm an admin for gnome? (which was accepted in the program) |
| 09:25.58 | teuf | (asking here too since I cannot seem to get any help on #melange) |
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| 09:31.19 | olly | mikhas: I'd expect the rejected org feedback meeting will be later this week, based on past years |
| 09:31.41 | mikhas | olly, in this channel? |
| 09:31.58 | olly | it has been previously I think |
| 09:32.06 | mikhas | ok, good |
| 09:32.13 | olly | i haven't seen a date yet |
| 09:32.31 | olly | but it has been a bit busy here |
| 09:33.11 | olly | if you miss it, you can probably just email |
| 09:33.31 | olly | but I suspect you'll find it useful to hear the feedback for others |
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| 09:40.54 | |Kev| | I think it's useful to hear the feedback whether you're accepted or not, in fact. |
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| 09:47.02 | mikhas | |Kev|, agree :-) |
| 09:47.11 | mikhas | at least if you want to learn from it |
| 09:47.47 | mikhas | olly, everyone will be writing such an email, asking for details. I can only imagine the crowded inbox of the GSoC admins. simply does not scale |
| 09:48.23 | ojwb | mikhas: yeah, it's more efficient too |
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| 10:48.39 | pokoko222 | can I discuss the proposal with the org? |
| 10:48.50 | pokoko222 | can I ask how I could improve it before I officially apply with it? |
| 10:48.52 | gevaerts | You shoulc |
| 10:48.55 | gevaerts | *should |
| 10:49.08 | pokoko222 | personal mails or just sent to mailing list and ask for advice |
| 10:49.43 | gevaerts | Don't send personal mails about open source stuff unless you have a *really* good reason |
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| 10:52.22 | pokoko222 | got it, thanks for the advice |
| 10:52.40 | pokoko222 | maybe if I implement bunch of algorithms and ask the guy in charge? |
| 10:52.58 | pokoko222 | or never ever send personal mail :D ? |
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| 10:53.29 | gevaerts | points to the "open" in "open source" |
| 10:53.42 | pokoko222 | got it |
| 10:54.06 | chrisoelmueller | usually those "guys in charge" are also subscribed to the ML |
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| 10:54.50 | chrisoelmueller | so you just don't use the chance to get feedback from everybody else by sending personal mail (not mentioning the fact that now the person you contacted has to fill in others on your mail, and so on) |
| 10:55.22 | chrisoelmueller | also holds for irc queries and the like |
| 10:55.25 | pokoko222 | ok guys thanks gotta go cya later |
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| 10:59.32 | kai | teuf: are you the applying admin or a co-admin? |
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| 11:00.28 | teuf | kai: co-admin |
| 11:00.43 | chrisoelmueller | teuf: for us, the co-admin filled out the profile first, got admin and i had to be re-invited as admin. you may want to check with your admin to invite you again |
| 11:00.47 | kai | teuf: ok, my co-admin seems to have the same problem |
| 11:00.55 | chrisoelmueller | no idea whether that's intentional but it worked at least |
| 11:01.04 | kai | chrisoelmueller: where do I send the invite? |
| 11:01.07 | teuf | chrisoelmueller: I could try that as a workaround |
| 11:01.25 | teuf | but shouldn't I see at least some kind of dashboard even if I'm not an admin or a mentor ? |
| 11:01.26 | chrisoelmueller | kai: org profile should have a link in the header |
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| 11:01.40 | kai | ah |
| 11:01.48 | kai | thanks, did't see that one |
| 11:01.59 | kai | sort of expected something bigger and orange-ish |
| 11:02.04 | chrisoelmueller | indeed |
| 11:03.18 | teuf | the weird thing is that I can still access gnome application if I go back to 2012, go to the org dashboard, and switch to 2012 |
| 11:03.31 | teuf | hm maybe because I was an admin in 2011 as well |
| 11:03.36 | chrisoelmueller | yep i could also access the application |
| 11:03.59 | Guest45126 | Should I create some prototypes to show with my application? |
| 11:05.04 | teuf | tiers getting invited again as an admin |
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| 11:05.24 | dmp | How many students can be handled by one mentor? |
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| 11:10.27 | teuf | dmp: generally 1 or sometimes 2 |
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| 11:13.25 | kblin | dmp: depends on the mentor |
| 11:13.30 | pizte | teuf: In my case I'm the only mentor of the organization. I hoped to mentor at least 2 |
| 11:13.47 | kblin | I wouldn't take more than one personally, but I've done two before |
| 11:13.51 | pizte | and up to 5 (five is very difficult, but with a bit of dedication it can be) |
| 11:14.02 | kblin | if they're low-fuss students, it might work |
| 11:14.09 | gevaerts | It all depends on how much time you have |
| 11:14.26 | kblin | if they require a lot of attention, you better have not much else to do |
| 11:14.45 | pizte | that's the thing, I'm dedicated full-yime to the organization |
| 11:15.03 | pizte | so I expect to spend 3/4 parts of the day with the GSoC |
| 11:15.13 | pizte | *full-time |
| 11:15.24 | mikhas | wow |
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| 11:15.30 | dmp | but Google didn't restricted that number in their gsoc rules? |
| 11:15.32 | teuf | pizte: gsoc faq gives a ballpark figure of 5 hours per-week per-student |
| 11:15.45 | dmp | For stuent's it's 1-1. |
| 11:15.49 | mikhas | I am not sure whether to envy or to pity you, for near full-time mentoring :-) |
| 11:16.11 | kblin | dmp: google will make sure you get into trouble if you (as an org) fail to mentor your students decently |
| 11:16.41 | pizte | kblin: i'm pretty sure of that too |
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| 11:17.18 | kblin | dmp: but as long as your students are doing fine, google is pretty laid back |
| 11:17.25 | kblin | they're californians after all ;) |
| 11:17.42 | dmp | :D |
| 11:17.53 | pizte | nice :D |
| 11:18.39 | dmp | actually I'm would'd be student :) |
| 11:18.49 | dmp | but It's good information for pizte's organisation |
| 11:19.51 | Guest45126 | what's so special about californians? :) |
| 11:19.55 | pizte | yeah, since googlwe approved our proopsal without having actuive community or team I have to think how I'll handle the situation |
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| 11:21.10 | pizte | * google, proposal, active |
| 11:21.16 | pizte | bad keyboard :/ |
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| 11:25.33 | mikhas | pizte, out of curiosity, which project will you be mentoring? |
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| 11:25.54 | mikhas | no active community but nearly full-time mentoring job sounds like an unusual combination |
| 11:26.41 | pizte | mikhas: e-cidadania |
| 11:26.55 | pizte | yes, it's a very unusual combination |
| 11:27.08 | pizte | usually the projects that propose to GSoC have at least an active community |
| 11:27.32 | pizte | imagine how big was my surprise to see the project approved |
| 11:28.09 | mikhas | ok, found an about link: http://docs.ecidadania.org/en/latest/ |
| 11:29.12 | prateekp | should i start writing applications on mailinglist on irc and let them review it or wait till application period starts |
| 11:29.46 | mikhas | starting now, before the peek, sounds smart |
| 11:31.17 | teuf | ok so my issues seem to be related to me not having a profile in melange (though I can see a perfectly good one in my 2011 profile) |
| 11:31.36 | teuf | but I don't have the profile link on the 2012 page, nor can I access a direct link |
| 11:32.19 | Michitux | pizte: at least last year new orgs were limited to 2 student slots unless you had very good reasons for getting more afaik |
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| 11:32.26 | prateekp | but if i write more than one one app to same org it wouldn't sound good |
| 11:32.29 | prateekp | what say |
| 11:33.05 | chrisoelmueller | teuf: strange. if the application accepted your link id as co-admin, your 2012 account should have been valid at that point |
| 11:33.11 | pizte | Michitux: I asked for 2 up to 5 (I can't handle more even if I wanted) |
| 11:33.31 | teuf | chrisoelmueller: iirc at the beginning the 2012 worked, and then it stopped working |
| 11:33.57 | teuf | (which I attributed to a buggy melange update at the usual time, ie a few days before a deadline) |
| 11:33.58 | pizte | Michitux: I can't handle them, if if want the GSoC to have a good finish |
| 11:34.05 | pizte | *if I |
| 11:35.22 | Michitux | pizte: my point was not about your capability of handling more students but rather about google most probably not giving you more than two slots independent of what you ask for |
| 11:35.24 | chrisoelmueller | teuf: sounds like you definitely should poke #melange about that, unless you did already |
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| 11:35.44 | teuf | chrisoelmueller: I've been trying for a few days now, to no avail |
| 11:36.02 | chrisoelmueller | guessed so. :/ |
| 11:37.13 | teuf | and I'm not so sure about what mailing list I should use for that |
| 11:37.39 | Michitux | pizte: but I wouldn't worry about that too much now, first make sure you get in contact with the students, review applications etc. |
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| 11:38.06 | pizte | Michitux: that's whay I'm doing right now :D |
| 11:38.18 | chrisoelmueller | teuf: i'd suggest melange-soc-dev: http://groups.google.com/group/melange-soc-dev?pli=1 |
| 11:38.44 | pizte | Michitux: btw, can I be mentor and adminsitrator at the same time or are they mutually exclusive? |
| 11:38.48 | Michitux | pizte: e.g. we had 3 students last year we wanted to have but we got only two slots. but then we lost one of them during conflict resolution so it wasn't any problem at all. |
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| 11:39.15 | Michitux | pizte: at least last year as administrator you were mentor automatically and the faq does also mention that it is possible |
| 11:39.42 | Michitux | (in the section about reviews, because normally mentors can't see the reviews they get but when you are admin, you can see them) |
| 11:40.13 | pizte | good to know |
| 11:40.35 | pizte | Michitux: thanks for your help, I was a bit lost with all the stuff since it's my first time at GSoC |
| 11:41.27 | Michitux | pizte: you're welcome, it was my/our first time last year, too |
| 11:42.09 | chrisoelmueller | pizte: the first year is not exactly easy, just ask questions in here and you'll find several people who share their experience |
| 11:42.28 | teuf | chrisoelmueller: thanks |
| 11:42.54 | chrisoelmueller | teuf: good luck getting that issue resolved |
| 11:43.21 | teuf | eh thanks |
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| 11:45.23 | pizte | chrisoelmueller: I expect it not to be easy, but I have to hope to end it satisfactorily |
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| 12:21.38 | pizte | I have a question, project pages must contain only one student, or can they have two students per project? |
| 12:21.50 | pizte | Do U have to do a separate project page per student? |
| 12:21.59 | pizte | s/U/I |
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| 12:22.09 | teuf | several students can apply separately for the same project, but you can only pick one student for one project |
| 12:22.32 | gevaerts | As far as I know you can do whatever you like with project pages, including not having them at all. |
| 12:22.45 | gevaerts | Prohects are different. Make sure they're not interdependent |
| 12:22.58 | pizte | ok, thanks! |
| 12:24.09 | gevaerts | Having one student fail because another student on the other side of the world decided to take an unannounced long holiday is not good |
| 12:24.53 | pizte | gevaerts: indeed |
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| 12:30.49 | Michitux | pizte: you could even accept two students for the same idea (though usually it doesn't make that much sense) |
| 12:31.24 | pizte | Michitux: no, I think it should be one, if they were two they would interfere each other |
| 12:32.14 | Michitux | pizte: I meant it in the sense that they work independent of each other and e.g. have a different focus or just implement the same things twice |
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| 12:33.01 | pizte | yeah |
| 12:33.17 | minuxeg | Hello |
| 12:33.25 | Michitux | your current list of ideas doesn't need to have anything to do with the projects the students do later |
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| 12:34.03 | Michitux | the students write applications that can be based on the ideas you list now but what the projects the students work on later is defined by the students application and what you discuss with them |
| 12:34.17 | Michitux | +are |
| 12:34.31 | minuxeg | Would you please tell me the timlines of GSoC? |
| 12:34.40 | pizte | Michitux: I know, in fact there are currently two project drafts proposed by students :) |
| 12:35.02 | MatthewWilkes | !timeline | minuxeg |
| 12:35.03 | gsocbot | minuxeg: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 12:35.56 | minuxeg | Thanks socbot |
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| 12:39.22 | dadkins_afk | !next |
| 12:39.23 | gsocbot | dadkins_afk: "next" is Mar 26 19:00 UTC - Student Application period opens |
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| 13:19.34 | j4ke | i would like to make an application template for nmap.org, someone know who should i contact or where to send it ? thanks ( i read all doc pages into nmap.org but links point to gsoc2011 ) |
| 13:21.52 | bretonium | dev mailing list will be the best option I think |
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| 13:24.25 | j4ke | bretonium: thanks for your reply, should i send my application template to dev-nmap ? i think that most of people in it aren't interested in my template. I won't annoy nmap community. |
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| 13:24.53 | gevaerts | Only nmap people will be able to tell you what to do with nmap-specific things |
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| 13:26.01 | bretonium | mailing lists are made to be not annoying - you can reply whenever you want. |
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| 13:28.00 | j4ke | gevaerts: sure, i read all ideas that they proposed. my question was about if there is ad-hoc e-mail address where to send my app template. |
| 13:28.24 | j4ke | bretonium: okey, i will send the question to dev-nmap ml thanks |
| 13:28.40 | gevaerts | j4ke: yes, and what I'm saying is that nmap people are more likely to know that than random people interested in gsoc in general :) |
| 13:30.47 | j4ke | gevaerts: surely ;) but into #nmap channel no-one know about gsoc, so my thought was maybe at #gsoc there are people like my interested in make code for nmap.org ;) BTW thanks for your reply |
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| 13:32.00 | gevaerts | j4ke: according to http://nmap.org/soc/apply.html they have a gsoc-specific mailing list |
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| 13:34.11 | j4ke | gevaerts: awesome, thanks |
| 13:37.09 | gevaerts | recommends always reading the organisation's pages attentively :) |
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| 13:37.42 | yashshah | I would like to know if i am talking to the mentor through personal emails, Will i need to discuss the same on mailing list/Forum? |
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| 13:39.04 | gevaerts | yashshah: this depends on the organisation, but generally you'll be discussing technical stuff with the community, and gsoc-specific stuff (apart from progress reports) with the mentor |
| 13:39.58 | gevaerts | By "gsoc-specific" I mean things like saying when you'll be away for a while and things like that |
| 13:40.31 | yashshah | gevaerts: What if there are only one mentor to see my ideas? |
| 13:41.19 | yashshah | gevaerts: All my conversations with the mentors are done through emails. |
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| 13:43.28 | gevaerts | yashshah: I'm not sure what you mean |
| 13:44.41 | yashshah | gevaerts: I had once wrote on their forum that i am interested and after that all my conversations with the mentor are done through PM and emails. |
| 13:46.09 | gevaerts | Ah, I think I see. If I were involved, I'd say a summary on the mailing list (or forum) would be useful, but in general this is a question for the mentor I'd say |
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| 13:53.12 | faryshta | Hi. Is there a list of accepted projects to work with? |
| 13:55.11 | burcin | faryshta, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 14:01.53 | faryshta | burcin, thanks. |
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| 14:19.49 | prateekp | as it is known we can apply for more than one project under one org |
| 14:20.34 | prateekp | but suppose if i show my interest regarding one project and then also put an application of other projects as well |
| 14:23.16 | prateekp | would it be fine |
| 14:23.29 | spectei | yes |
| 14:24.21 | xsergio | I think you cant set priorities |
| 14:25.30 | mikhas | prateekp, I think that in the end the quality of your application will matter, so don't spread too thin |
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| 14:25.56 | |Kev| | You can express priorities informally if you want. |
| 14:26.00 | prateekp | o i can apply for more than one project under the same organsiation showing interest in all the projects equally |
| 14:26.02 | prateekp | is it so |
| 14:26.04 | |Kev| | Orgs will probably take account of them. |
| 14:27.35 | prateekp | i was asking it bec showing interest in more than 2 fields is somewhat taken as (with bad intention of apllicant) |
| 14:27.51 | prateekp | fields ---> projects |
| 14:28.02 | xsergio | |Kev|, yes, but what if you are interested on two app but from two different orgs |
| 14:28.45 | |Kev| | xsergio: Then if you were selected for both it would show up as a conflict, and be resolved. Usually by asking the student. |
| 14:29.09 | xsergio | hm didnt know that |
| 14:29.48 | thiago | but be prepared to do any project you submit |
| 14:30.11 | thiago | sometimes, an org thinks a project is important and will select that despite your priorities |
| 14:30.23 | prateekp | if the two applies projects are under the same org ... |
| 14:30.37 | thiago | even across orgs |
| 14:30.41 | prateekp | ok |
| 14:30.51 | thiago | it's possible that the conflict resolution is "we need this project" and the other org says "ok" |
| 14:31.10 | prateekp | ok |
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| 14:32.24 | prateekp | also writing the application on the org mailing list bet 17-25 march would be a better option or doing it after aplication period starts is more preffered |
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| 14:37.48 | prateekp | can i discuss the application with the org |
| 14:38.19 | dadkins | most orgs would encourage that :) |
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| 14:44.48 | prateekp | ok |
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| 14:49.14 | nn | Hi! I have one question. At this moment is open student application. Students contact with orgarnizations, choose ideas, am I right? after that orgs will choose students, that will work for them? Please correct me if I am wrong. |
| 14:49.34 | JordiGH | counts two questions. |
| 14:49.39 | JordiGH | nn: Yes. And yes. |
| 14:49.50 | dadkins | !timeline | nn |
| 14:49.50 | gsocbot | nn: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 14:49.59 | nn | ok, thank you! yep, two questions :) |
| 14:50.28 | faryshta | I have a doubt. I GSoC hosted in a particular place. Do I need american visa? |
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| 14:51.42 | JordiGH | faryshta: As long as you're not a citizen of the axis of evil, you're allowed to participate. |
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| 14:52.10 | tomprince | faryshta: GSoC is typically done wherever you happen to be. You do need appropriate permission to work wherever you happen to be, which may require the appropriate type of visa. |
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| 14:52.22 | JordiGH | The current axis of evil has been expanded and is Syria, Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Burma (Myanmar) and Sudan. |
| 14:52.35 | faryshta | JordiGH, thanks. |
| 14:52.44 | faryshta | tomprince, so I can work from home? |
| 14:52.55 | mlankhorst | JordiGH: could you please not call them axis of evil? :) |
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| 14:53.03 | faryshta | tomprince, I am legal age mexican citizen living in mexico. |
| 14:53.05 | tomprince | Yes. That is typical. |
| 14:53.16 | JordiGH | mlankhorst: That's what George Bush called them. |
| 14:53.49 | summatusmentis | JordiGH: so emulating George Bush is a goal now? |
| 14:53.58 | JordiGH | I don't know. Google seems to think so. |
| 14:54.04 | tomprince | JordiGH: Then 'Goerge Bush's "axis of evil"' |
| 14:54.15 | summatusmentis | Google is required to follow US law related to trade |
| 14:54.19 | JordiGH | I'm not convinced it's actually legally obligated to not do commerce with those countries. I just think they're erring on the side of caution. |
| 14:54.30 | summatusmentis | you're... really? |
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| 14:55.00 | faryshta | JordiGH, unfortunatelly Google is legally required to follow US law related to trade if they want to keep making bussiness on US. |
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| 14:55.19 | JordiGH | faryshta: I'm not sure. I've looked at those laws, and I see ways around them. But I'm not a laywer. |
| 14:55.22 | JordiGH | lawyer |
| 14:55.56 | summatusmentis | I'm willing to bet that Google has done the work on it |
| 14:56.25 | JordiGH | I'm willing to bet they just don't want to actually bring this to court due to costs and is too big a battle for them, even though they might win. |
| 14:56.34 | thiago | not really |
| 14:56.42 | thiago | doing business with embargoed countries is not permitted |
| 14:56.51 | thiago | they'd have to seek special permissions to do that |
| 14:56.52 | JordiGH | Google has presence outside of the US. |
| 14:56.54 | mlankhorst | JordiGH: none of us are lawyers and this channel isn't #law :X |
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| 14:57.20 | faryshta | JordiGH, yes but that is not how embargo laws work. |
| 14:57.22 | thiago | the US law doesn't care about that. The HQ is in the US and the program is run out of the US. |
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| 14:57.29 | Lennie | thiago, is right |
| 14:57.39 | JordiGH | At any rate, this is quite an outrage, and I sympathise with the axis of evil. |
| 14:57.44 | thiago | just accept it: Google cannot do business with those countries or citizens of them. |
| 14:57.52 | JordiGH | No, why should I accept an outrage? |
| 14:57.54 | mlankhorst | JordiGH: then do not call them axis of evil, please.. |
| 14:57.55 | faryshta | JordiGH, the embargo laws mean. If you do bussiness with X you can't do bussiness with us. |
| 14:58.09 | thiago | JordiGH: call your representative and have him/her exert influence to change the law |
| 14:58.15 | JordiGH | thiago: I am not a US citizen. |
| 14:58.20 | JordiGH | All I can do is protest. |
| 14:58.30 | thiago | JordiGH: your representative can do something by way of foreign relations |
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| 14:58.38 | faryshta | JordiGH, most of us sympathize with them. Only US and Israel voted to keep the embargo on Cuba. |
| 14:58.40 | thiago | JordiGH: if enough countries pressure the US to drop the embargo, it might do that. |
| 14:59.11 | JordiGH | My representatives are corrupt and ineffective. This is true in most parts of the world. |
| 14:59.23 | faryshta | JordiGH, that is true on US too :) |
| 15:00.34 | JordiGH | And I do wish this wasn't swept under the carpet. You can only ignore politics as long as it ignores you. I'm quite outraged that a US law is inhibiting my ability to collaborate with citizens of this world. |
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| 15:00.57 | JordiGH | And I wish all GSoC participants were aware instead of saying "not my problem". |
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| 15:02.01 | faryshta | JordiGH, everyone is aware and none is saying 'not my problem'. Its that we don't know what can we do. |
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| 15:02.14 | JordiGH | We can protest, for one. |
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| 15:02.30 | thiago | your protest is noted |
| 15:02.34 | tomprince | Calling them "axis of evil" doesn't seem like a form of protest. |
| 15:02.34 | JordiGH | Thank you. |
| 15:02.35 | thiago | but it won't change the result |
| 15:02.43 | JordiGH | tomprince: It's irony. |
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| 15:05.21 | mlankhorst | JordiGH: anyhow this is not the channel for politics either |
| 15:05.37 | JordiGH | mlankhorst: You can only ignore politics, as long as it ignores you... |
| 15:06.14 | JordiGH | I think politics has ceased to ignore GSoC long ago. |
| 15:06.14 | faryshta | Well back to the topic. I can work from home then. How do I get the mentorings? |
| 15:06.16 | mlankhorst | that may be true, but this is not the right place to call attention to it |
| 15:06.35 | summatusmentis | faryshta: you apply,get accepted, and there's a mentor for the project you work on |
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| 15:08.01 | faryshta | summatusmentis, the mentor communicates with me by internet? Maybe a stupid question but I used to think that GSoC took place on the Googleplex. |
| 15:08.12 | JordiGH | faryshta: It's all remote. |
| 15:09.20 | faryshta | Thanks that was my doubt. |
| 15:09.21 | summatusmentis | faryshta: it's completely remote. Yes, the most common form of communication is email, or IRC/IM |
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| 15:09.41 | JordiGH | faryshta: What part of Mexico are you from? I'm chilango. |
| 15:09.48 | summatusmentis | Now, if your mentor happens to be nearby to where you are, there's nothing stopping you from working with them in person |
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| 15:10.33 | faryshta | JordiGH, coyoacán, ciudad de México. |
| 15:10.44 | diofeher | anyone know who can I contact if carols is off? I need some documents to comprove that I've joined GSOC '10 |
| 15:10.53 | JordiGH | My chilango brethren! |
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| 15:13.32 | tomprince | diofeher: Your best bet is to email carols, probably. |
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| 15:43.27 | mjc | Hi. I couldn't find definite answer to my question - is it required for an applicant to be a higher education student? |
| 15:43.52 | diofeher | tomprince, yes, I emailed her, but got no response yet :( but thanks anyway |
| 15:44.09 | JordiGH | mjc: Yes, it's necessary. |
| 15:44.27 | Enygma` | mjc: Yes. For lower education there is Google Code-in. |
| 15:44.39 | JordiGH | diofeher: Have you waited longer than 24 hours? Longer than 48? She gets swamped with email, as you might imagine. |
| 15:44.59 | mjc | In a month I will be graduating from high school, so during the summer I will be in a gap between lower and higher eduaction. |
| 15:45.15 | JordiGH | mjc: You have to be enrolled already. |
| 15:45.35 | mjc | Okay, I have one more year to prepare. Thank you. |
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| 15:47.38 | blast007 | the FAQ says "accepted into or enrolled" |
| 15:48.00 | ThomasWaldmann | hi diofeher |
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| 16:30.11 | c0smikdebris | has anybody ever done a summer of code in the same organization twice? |
| 16:30.16 | c0smikdebris | (as a student) |
| 16:30.24 | gevaerts | People have done that, yes |
| 16:31.11 | c0smikdebris | but i'm guessing newer students will be preferred |
| 16:32.32 | gevaerts | That's going to depend on the organisation (I should make an alias to say that...), but don't forget that this is always "all else being equal" |
| 16:32.51 | JordiGH | I would love to have my student from last year again. |
| 16:32.54 | JordiGH | He was a pleasure to work with. |
| 16:33.00 | JordiGH | c0smikdebris: Are you also a pleasure? |
| 16:33.30 | chrisoelmueller | it's really not a bad thing if we know that you are capable of doing what you propose, especially if you continued work on the project after the summer of code |
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| 16:33.31 | c0smikdebris | JordiGH: I think i am, yes. :P |
| 16:33.44 | summatusmentis | c0smikdebris: I have |
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| 16:34.17 | c0smikdebris | summatusmentis: oh cool. what org did you work with? |
| 16:34.32 | summatusmentis | OpenAFS |
| 16:34.43 | summatusmentis | in 2008 and 2009 |
| 16:35.28 | diofeher | In bluez some students did this too, for what I know |
| 16:36.05 | c0smikdebris | I've been thinking of applying again to the same org.. but then sometimes I feel like it would be cool to get to know a new project |
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| 16:36.28 | mikhas | choose a new project |
| 16:36.36 | mikhas | your future career will thank you for that |
| 16:36.37 | summatusmentis | apply to both? |
| 16:37.22 | c0smikdebris | summatusmentis: that's a good idea |
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| 16:43.59 | maxpagel_ | Hello, I'm Mentoring the Wiselib project, just a quick question: Are organizations allowed to use the GSoC banner on their web pages to promote their project to possible students |
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| 16:44.45 | JordiGH | maxpagel_: Seems like it. A lot of orgs are doing it. Ivanovic? |
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| 16:45.50 | Lennie | maxpagel_, http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocLogos |
| 16:45.59 | Lennie | "These logos are is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 Unported License." |
| 16:46.31 | Lennie | The page itself explains what that means in non-lawyer terms :p |
| 16:47.38 | Lennie | I wonder... |
| 16:47.40 | Lennie | !logo |
| 16:47.40 | gsocbot | Lennie: "logo" is The GSoC logo is available from http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocLogos |
| 16:47.45 | Dartz | Hello |
| 16:47.45 | Lennie | nice :) |
| 16:47.54 | Dartz | Could someone answer me.. |
| 16:48.28 | Dartz | I wanted to know what qualifications are required |
| 16:48.31 | oldtopman | Lennie: No changing the page, no making money from the page, and always credit us. |
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| 16:48.51 | Dartz | for GSoC |
| 16:48.53 | Lennie | !faq | Dartz |
| 16:48.53 | gsocbot | Dartz: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
| 16:49.01 | gevaerts | Lennie: that's actually a bit confusing. I'd say the CC license doesn't say anything about being allowed to use it, given trademarks and things :) |
| 16:49.20 | Lennie | gevaerts, hush don't make it more difficult :P |
| 16:49.28 | gevaerts | So the layman explanation isn't just that, it adds new stuff! |
| 16:49.54 | Lennie | Just use it and don't abuse it :P |
| 16:50.01 | ubuntu_love | gevaerts, do you know anyone from the libreoffice over here?? |
| 16:50.02 | Lennie | <this is not an official statement :P> |
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| 16:50.22 | gevaerts | ubuntu_love: why are you looking for libreoffice people here? |
| 16:51.34 | Dartz | So according to the FAQ |
| 16:51.35 | ubuntu_love | gevaerts, i actually meant the mentors from libreoffice |
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| 16:51.57 | Dartz | Can I enroll? being a High School Studen |
| 16:52.02 | Dartz | *student |
| 16:52.03 | Lennie | Dartz, no |
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| 16:52.09 | Lennie | !gci |
| 16:52.10 | gsocbot | Lennie: "gci" is gci is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-18 year olds. See http://code.google.com/gci |
| 16:52.17 | Lennie | that's the high-school competition |
| 16:53.06 | Dartz | But thats over |
| 16:53.10 | Dartz | *sigh* |
| 16:53.33 | Lennie | Dartz, who knows. It might run again end of this year :0 |
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| 16:53.49 | Lennie | Dartz, you are also welcome to just contribute to any open source project :) |
| 16:53.57 | Lennie | Dartz, money shouldn't be your main motivator |
| 16:53.59 | Dartz | It might and hopefully it will. But the wait kills me |
| 16:54.11 | Dartz | Money isnt my motivator. Competition is. |
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| 16:54.28 | Lennie | Dartz, You should ask the project you are contributing to whether they can send you a t-shirt :P |
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| 16:55.01 | gevaerts | If you want competition, GCI is a lot more suitable than GSoC anyway |
| 16:55.13 | Dartz | Haha, It would be funny if they do. |
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| 16:55.29 | Lennie | gevaerts, true |
| 16:55.35 | Lennie | Anyhow, I need to get back to work :P |
| 16:55.40 | Lennie | more code to write |
| 16:55.54 | maxpagel_ | Lennie, JordieGH thx, will not abuse it :-) |
| 16:55.56 | Dartz | I'm currently into beginner stage of learning C++ |
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| 16:56.09 | Dartz | but somehow my first code keeps giving me the same error |
| 16:56.25 | Dartz | DevCPP |
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| 16:58.00 | summatusmentis | well, you should probably figure out what that error is |
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| 16:58.11 | Dartz | cant |
| 16:58.15 | Dartz | thats the whole problem |
| 16:59.20 | Dartz | I think its saying that iostream.h file |
| 16:59.22 | Dartz | isnt available |
| 16:59.27 | Dartz | or is outdated |
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| 17:02.34 | alculquicondor | if you're in Windows, you should try wxDevCpp |
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| 17:03.29 | j4ke | Dartz: you think its saying ? could you paste the error ? have you tried code:blocks ? (IMHO, vim is better but ...) |
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| 17:04.00 | alculquicondor | Dartz: can you paste your code in https://gist.github.com/ ? |
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| 17:06.32 | Sharkash | Dartz: iostream.h wont work! |
| 17:06.46 | Sharkash | youll need to include just "iostream" |
| 17:07.01 | Sharkash | and also add the line "using namespace std" afterwards |
| 17:07.11 | thiago | iostream.h hasn't been used for 14 years |
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| 17:12.02 | fcerullo | hi there |
| 17:12.31 | fcerullo | im the gsoc admin for the owasp foundation |
| 17:13.28 | fcerullo | if you have any questions about any owasp projects please feel free to drop me a line |
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| 17:23.46 | shamsdd | when will gsoc start this year? |
| 17:24.01 | JordiGH | It already has! Do you mean the coding period? |
| 17:24.05 | JordiGH | !timeline |
| 17:24.05 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 17:24.42 | shamsdd | i mean proposal submission period |
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| 17:52.44 | dadkins | !next | shamsdd |
| 17:52.45 | gsocbot | dadkins: Error: No such user |
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| 17:55.58 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 17:56.50 | downey | wow, is it tea time already? |
| 17:57.06 | Dilip | can you kindly help whether list is final or still it will be updated ??? |
| 17:57.06 | carols | it's always tea time. |
| 17:57.12 | downey | indeed |
| 17:57.20 | dadkins | carols: +1 |
| 17:57.22 | carols | Dilip: the list is final, but orgs may still be adding their profiles. |
| 17:57.23 | gevaerts | gets chocolate to go with the tea and coffee |
| 17:57.32 | Dilip | ok thanks :) |
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| 17:58.34 | aghisla | tea time! |
| 17:58.47 | Dilip | of course aghisla :D |
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| 17:59.19 | aghisla | time zones are discarded, we are on gsoc timezone, and it's always tea time |
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| 18:01.12 | gevaerts | "Student applications have to be in before tea time" |
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| 18:04.10 | downey | http://t-oclock.jpg.to/ |
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| 18:07.42 | gevaerts | Nice! |
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| 18:21.16 | Ivanovic | JordiGH: i'd say that Lennie said it all |
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| 18:21.34 | JordiGH | Context? |
| 18:21.38 | Ivanovic | JordiGH: that is: since the logo is *meant* to promote gsoc it would be braindead if using it was not allowed |
| 18:21.49 | JordiGH | Oh, the logo. |
| 18:22.00 | JordiGH | Dunno, sometimes people don't like their intellectual properties stolen. |
| 18:22.28 | JordiGH | I didn't think Google would mind. I thought you were around to answer at that time, and I guess I didn't look myself for a logo license. |
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| 18:28.15 | JordiGH | Hm, speaking of stealing, admins are concerned with students discussing ideas publicly because other students might steal the idea? |
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| 18:29.00 | downey | JordiGH: reminds me of the same question people ask about this crazy idea of putting your source code online :) |
| 18:29.08 | weltall | XD |
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| 18:29.14 | weltall | didn't have problems last year |
| 18:29.21 | JordiGH | But then everyone will steal it, downey! |
| 18:29.26 | JordiGH | We won't have any source code left. |
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| 18:29.44 | weltall | go buy some source chocolates fast! |
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| 18:32.01 | qballer | So where are you guys thinking of applying, the list is out. |
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| 18:32.49 | JordiGH | GNU 4 life yo |
| 18:32.56 | qballer | I'm looking for cool java server side project |
| 18:32.58 | JordiGH | throws a GNU gang sign |
| 18:33.04 | qballer | LOL |
| 18:33.06 | JordiGH | LOL |
| 18:33.09 | qballer | Thinking of ASF |
| 18:33.39 | qballer | specifically hadoop project |
| 18:33.50 | qballer | The thing is, it |
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| 18:34.31 | qballer | it's hard to know where to start really so many orgs. I have a specific project in mind, but there might be some more cool stuff out there. |
| 18:34.41 | JordiGH | What are you thinking of doing with Hadoop? Have you started contacting their team? |
| 18:34.50 | Darrow | Anyone here do a GSoC with any of the bioinformatics organizations last year? |
| 18:34.53 | JordiGH | What project do you have in mind? |
| 18:35.27 | qballer | I'm actually doing my final year project in distributed systems java. |
| 18:36.05 | qballer | I don't have something specifically in mind there, I need to understand the product futher. |
| 18:36.21 | qballer | But fishing for good projects is very hard. |
| 18:36.42 | JordiGH | Well, have you already read their ideas page? |
| 18:36.52 | qballer | Actually no. |
| 18:36.56 | qballer | link me? :) |
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| 18:37.15 | qballer | I'll google it ... |
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| 18:38.33 | downey | google++ |
| 18:38.40 | qballer | ? |
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| 18:38.59 | MatthewWilkes | googlf |
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| 18:46.10 | X-tonic | hey |
| 18:46.27 | brlcad | hey |
| 18:46.35 | Darrow | hey |
| 18:46.40 | JordiGH | he |
| 18:46.41 | JordiGH | y |
| 18:46.50 | X-tonic | what does git checkout do? |
| 18:47.06 | brlcad | it kills puppies |
| 18:47.43 | abma | "man git checkout" |
| 18:47.57 | abma | git-checkout - Checkout a branch or paths to the working tree |
| 18:48.02 | JordiGH | X-tonic: It updates your working directory to the specific revision, amongst a bunch of other crazy things. |
| 18:48.02 | Darrow | Changes your branch, basically. |
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| 18:48.34 | X-tonic | yes, but i was confused because in the man it said something like deletes changes in your present working directory, an i panicked |
| 18:48.45 | brlcad | and kills puppies |
| 18:49.00 | JordiGH | X-tonic: Try asking in #git. |
| 18:49.03 | brlcad | stops :) |
| 18:49.25 | o0o0o | !next |
| 18:49.26 | gsocbot | o0o0o: "next" is Mar 26 19:00 UTC - Student Application period opens |
| 18:51.03 | ThomasWaldmann | hg clone < clones kitten # scnr |
| 18:51.39 | Al_Da_Best | Cloning kittens eh |
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| 18:52.57 | NerdfighteriaIRC | anyone here that could handle a question/suggestion? |
| 18:53.05 | downey | NerdfighteriaIRC: probably |
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| 18:53.40 | downey | NerdfighteriaIRC: you'll find out once you ask/offer it. :) |
| 18:53.55 | NerdfighteriaIRC | okay, what is the purpose of the age restriction on entering? |
| 18:54.20 | downey | NerdfighteriaIRC: legal reasons as far as i've read on the lists |
| 18:54.43 | downey | NerdfighteriaIRC: 18 is the age of majority in the US laws, where someone can enter freely into agreements |
| 18:54.55 | downey | NerdfighteriaIRC: i'm not a lawyer so that's about all i know :) |
| 18:54.59 | NerdfighteriaIRC | hmm, what if an adult where to sign for the minor |
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| 18:55.04 | NerdfighteriaIRC | hmm kk |
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| 18:55.25 | NerdfighteriaIRC | Oh age descrimination, why do i hate you so... |
| 18:55.26 | downey | NerdfighteriaIRC: there's also GCI which is available for people younger than that, and it has different rules & structure |
| 18:55.32 | downey | !gci |
| 18:55.33 | gsocbot | downey: "gci" is gci is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-18 year olds. See http://code.google.com/gci |
| 18:55.52 | gevaerts | That's where "no exceptions" comes in. Things very quickly become unmanageable |
| 18:56.31 | NerdfighteriaIRC | Will look into it |
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| 18:58.05 | marinaz | X-tonic: git checkout downloads the project onto your computer; you should read about Git version control system |
| 18:59.32 | downey | X-tonic: http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html |
| 18:59.33 | NerdfighteriaIRC | Well thanks :) |
| 18:59.40 | NerdfighteriaIRC | Have a good afternoon all. |
| 18:59.58 | X-tonic | Thanks, Ill do that |
| 19:00.05 | downey | X-tonic: sorry, meant to send http://git.or.cz/course/ |
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| 19:02.06 | qballer | Well the Hadoop guys don't sound so eager regarding GSoC |
| 19:02.28 | JordiGH | Looks like they've done a few projects in the past... |
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| 19:03.49 | qballer | Yea, they said that working with GSoC wasn't optimal for them, at least one guys said it. they have 40+ committers |
| 19:03.56 | qballer | guy* |
| 19:04.50 | qballer | I will keep hanging there. Still ASF sounds like the organization for me. I also like Mozilla but i am looking for server side. |
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| 19:05.55 | downey | qballer: did you look through the tags on the accepted orgs list? |
| 19:05.58 | Darrow | Anyone here ever have a bad experience with GSoC? Or any warnings or cautions about applying for projects? |
| 19:06.10 | qballer | Need to spend a couple of hours of research, I'm basiclly willing to do a lot of things but I feel it would be better if I do something I'm pationate about |
| 19:06.21 | JordiGH | qballer: Not optimal? |
| 19:06.21 | qballer | I'm actually doing it right now downey |
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| 19:06.30 | downey | qballer: good. :) should be helpful |
| 19:06.33 | JordiGH | What does the number of committers have to do with it? |
| 19:06.47 | qballer | Who can be a mentor their. |
| 19:06.59 | qballer | mentors* |
| 19:07.26 | JordiGH | Oh, I guess they mean they already have plenty of people working for them, and they're too busy to mentor someone. |
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| 19:07.55 | qballer | could be. I still will keep trying to lurk. |
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| 19:09.04 | qballer | JordiGH /downey are you guys would be students? |
| 19:09.17 | downey | qballer: i'm an org admin |
| 19:09.23 | JordiGH | qballer: No, I'm a would-be mentor. |
| 19:09.49 | qballer | Org Admin? you work on the project in behave of google? |
| 19:10.07 | qballer | GNU? |
| 19:10.10 | downey | qballer: i coordinate gsoc activities for one of the open source projects. :) |
| 19:10.21 | qballer | which one? |
| 19:10.25 | downey | qballer: OpenMRS |
| 19:11.22 | qballer | Do you guys do Machine Learning diagnosis? |
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| 19:12.19 | qballer | downey |
| 19:12.35 | qballer | JordiGH - GNU for you right? |
| 19:12.50 | JordiGH | qballer: Octave. |
| 19:12.56 | downey | qballer: If you have questions about our project (or any) best to ask them in that project's IRC channel and not in #GSoC. Ours is #OpenMRS (but the short answer to your question is not really). |
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| 19:13.16 | JordiGH | It was just used for the Stanford online machine learning class. |
| 19:14.06 | qballer | Nice |
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| 19:19.55 | klocatelli | yeah, that was a fun class |
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| 19:27.27 | agliodbs | so, this part has changed since I was last admin |
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| 19:27.32 | agliodbs | how do I invite mentors? |
| 19:28.44 | brlcad | agliodbs: go to the org page, there's a link at the top |
| 19:28.58 | brlcad | the same place where you editied your profile |
| 19:29.09 | brlcad | next to edit is invite admin and invite mentor |
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| 19:31.02 | agliodbs | hmmm |
| 19:31.08 | agliodbs | my welcome email seems to have vanished |
| 19:31.12 | agliodbs | how do I find the org page? |
| 19:34.45 | agliodbs | hmm. I'll come back later when the Googlers are back from lunch |
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| 19:38.16 | brlcad | agliodbs: er, if you can find the google-melange site, you'd better be able to find the org list .. otherwise your students don't have a prayer |
| 19:38.37 | agliodbs | brlcad: there;s no screen for "invite mentors" |
| 19:38.41 | brlcad | it's right there on the page without about a half-dozen ways to get to it |
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| 19:38.52 | brlcad | you have to go to your org page |
| 19:39.03 | brlcad | just like if you were a student, find your org page |
| 19:39.12 | agliodbs | brlcad: ah, ok |
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| 19:40.00 | agliodbs | there it is |
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| 19:40.12 | agliodbs | thanks. Navigating Melange is somewhat unintuitive |
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| 20:52.54 | neXyon | carols: the copyright of the code GSoC students write is still the student's right? so they could relicense for using it somewhere else if they want, right? |
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| 20:53.22 | carols | neXyon: it's the org's actually |
| 20:53.49 | neXyon | carols: ah okay, so I have to ask the org? |
| 20:53.52 | carols | neXyon: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#who_owns |
| 20:56.48 | neXyon | carols: okay thanks |
| 20:56.51 | carols | yw |
| 20:59.34 | agliodbs | carols: BTW, we had to list PostgreSQL as "MIT License" |
| 20:59.40 | carols | agliodbs: ok |
| 21:00.00 | agliodbs | since neither the BSD license or (of course) The PostgreSQL LIcense are htere |
| 21:00.08 | agliodbs | terms of the license are the same |
| 21:00.46 | carols | sounds fine to me. |
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| 21:07.01 | agliodbs | yah, just wanted you to know |
| 21:07.07 | agliodbs | in case it comes up as an issue later on |
| 21:07.22 | carols | thank you :-) |
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| 21:11.33 | tomprince | agliodbs: Also, mentors can apply, and then you accept them (from the dashboard, under 'my orgnaizations requests') |
| 21:11.45 | stefanct | neXyon: afaik there is no such thing as assigning copyright to someone in many countries (like ours ;), but an org could theoretically require an exclusive license which makes it practically equal as if you would give the copyright away. usually this should be no problem in the FOSS world imo... :) |
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| 21:12.27 | agliodbs | tomprince: what does the link for that look like? |
| 21:14.09 | tomprince | agliodbs: for the mentors, there is a big orange button on the profile page. for the admin, it will show up under requests, on the dashboard. |
| 21:14.40 | agliodbs | right. what I need to do is send instructions even for folks who have never signed up before |
| 21:14.52 | agliodbs | and it's hard for me to see the right pages since I'm signed up |
| 21:15.03 | agliodbs | is this on one of the FAQs? |
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| 21:16.03 | tomprince | !faq |
| 21:16.04 | gsocbot | tomprince: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
| 21:16.06 | agliodbs | I don't see an item for "how does a mentor joins" |
| 21:16.21 | agliodbs | yeah, I'm not seeing any item on the faq which is obvious for this |
| 21:16.25 | tomprince | agliodbs: You can see the orange button by looking at a different org. |
| 21:16.28 | JDiogoR | Boa noite :D |
| 21:16.44 | agliodbs | tomprince: lemme try using another browser so that I'm not logged in |
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| 21:17.51 | tomprince | Well, I bet they need to be signed in to apply. |
| 21:18.37 | agliodbs | oh, there we go |
| 21:18.47 | agliodbs | the main gsoc2012 page now has a mentor registration form up |
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| 21:44.05 | jermar | hello, as an org admin for HelenOS, I can't see myself among the mentors nor can I add myself as a mentor for my organization |
| 21:44.32 | jermar | is there some catch I need to be aware of? |
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| 21:49.39 | selenamarie | agliodbs: forwarded you a response from len |
| 21:49.56 | agliodbs | selenamarie: thanks |
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| 21:53.48 | ojwb | jermar: I think admins just are mentors inherently |
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| 21:56.05 | jermar | ojwb, the strange thing is that I can't see myself in the members of my organization table |
| 21:56.58 | ojwb | it's the same for others at least |
| 21:57.36 | ojwb | admins have been allowed to mentor in the past, and I've not seen any indication that's changed |
| 21:58.30 | jermar | yes, I am just puzzled why I can see other admins in the chart but not myself |
| 22:00.20 | agliodbs | ojwb: mind you, after last year, I don't think that adminning and mentoring if your project has more than like 4 students is a good idea |
| 22:00.33 | agliodbs | ojwb: I tried to and it didn't work, had to get a new mentor for the student |
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| 22:05.18 | sarbull | hi, where can i find the organisations that have been approved for this gsoc year |
| 22:05.43 | agliodbs | ?organizations |
| 22:05.57 | sarbull | projects ? |
| 22:06.02 | agliodbs | jermar: what's HelenOS? |
| 22:06.14 | agliodbs | sarbull: I was trying to invoke the bot |
| 22:06.16 | agliodbs | !orgs |
| 22:06.16 | gsocbot | agliodbs: "orgs" is The list of mentoring organizations is at http://goo.gl/0juf3 |
| 22:06.21 | agliodbs | there you go |
| 22:06.25 | sarbull | thanks |
| 22:06.36 | jermar | agliodbs, one of the accepted organizations |
| 22:07.09 | agliodbs | jermar: no, what is it? |
| 22:08.03 | agliodbs | is this ground-up, or is it a fork of something? |
| 22:08.30 | agliodbs | oh, cool! You're a Charles University project? |
| 22:08.47 | agliodbs | we've had lots of students from Charles |
| 22:09.10 | jermar | agliodbs, it's an OS project, definitely not a fork or remake |
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| 22:17.06 | sarbull | is DokuWiki on for this summer ? |
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| 22:19.09 | agliodbs | sarbull: you don't need to PM me for questions |
| 22:19.13 | agliodbs | in fact, I'd rather you didn't |
| 22:19.30 | agliodbs | ojwb: someone needs to update the bot |
| 22:19.35 | agliodbs | ojwb: it has 2011 links |
| 22:19.47 | ojwb | agliodbs: anyone can update the bot |
| 22:20.07 | sarbull | exactly .. |
| 22:20.17 | agliodbs | oh? how do I? |
| 22:20.30 | ojwb | what's the new link? |
| 22:20.35 | agliodbs | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
| 22:20.47 | ojwb | !learn orgs as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
| 22:20.48 | gsocbot | ojwb: "orgs" is (#1) The list of mentoring organizations is at http://goo.gl/0juf3, or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
| 22:20.51 | ojwb | !forget orgs 1 |
| 22:20.51 | gsocbot | ojwb: "orgs" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
| 22:20.58 | ojwb | like so |
| 22:21.07 | dhaun | !gsocbot |
| 22:21.07 | gsocbot | dhaun: "gsocbot" is http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot |
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| 22:24.31 | agliodbs | thanks |
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| 22:28.00 | sarbull | !gsocbot |
| 22:28.00 | gsocbot | sarbull: "gsocbot" is http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot |
| 22:28.51 | Shomi | How can i apply for Wine project? |
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| 22:30.20 | JordiGH | Shomi: Contact them! :-) http://wiki.winehq.org/SummerOfCode |
| 22:33.22 | Shomi | Thank you JordiGH. |
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| 23:16.50 | o0o0o | _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ |
| 23:17.29 | klocatelli | indeed |
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| 23:22.50 | counters | Hi, does anyone know if there is someone I can talk to about tax documentation from GSoC 2011? |
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