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00:00.02jpsgood, that's stronger language than the two pertinent FAQ questions
00:00.27jps!learn proof as http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/studentinfo
00:00.28gsocbotjps: "proof" is (#1) http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/studentinfo, or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/studentinfo
00:00.47jpsis a gsocbot novice
00:00.54MatthewWilkes!forget proof 1
00:00.54gsocbotMatthewWilkes: "proof" is http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/studentinfo
00:00.59jpsthanks again
00:01.15MatthewWilkes!this cookie | jps
00:01.15gsocbotjps: "this cookie" is for you
00:01.21jpslol
00:02.03jps!nom
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00:17.01tomprince!learn proof as For information on required proof from last year, see http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/studentinfo . The information for 2012 should be similiar.
00:17.01gsocbottomprince: "proof" is (#1) http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/studentinfo, or (#2) For information on required proof from last year, see http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/studentinfo . The information for 2012 should be similiar.
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00:17.12tomprince!forget proof 1
00:17.12gsocbottomprince: "proof" is For information on required proof from last year, see http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/studentinfo . The information for 2012 should be similiar.
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00:29.56meflinhmm in melange I see no way to assign a second mentor
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00:31.54tomprinceIf I remember from previous years, a second one can be assigned after students have been accepted. And, I think that information isn't critical.
00:32.17meflinah
00:32.59meflinwell my org is kinda a team-mentoring ( a primary often a secondary , but all mentors are responsible for helping all students )
00:35.04meflinfirst year as admin tho so "how we work" and how the interface works doesn't always match up :D
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00:39.25meflinthanks
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15:01.08*** topic/#gsoc is http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted organizations have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. | If your org was rejected and you want to find out why, email carols | The student submission period has ended, good luck to everyone who applied!
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15:04.50|radiy|hi, guys
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15:08.54|radiy|How long will the results of a set of quadrupeds in GsOC? anybody know?
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15:10.05qballer!next
15:10.06gsocbotqballer: "next" is (#1) Until Apr 20 - Mentoring organizations review and rank proposals, contacting students if necessary, or (#2) Also, By 19:00UTC on 10 April, please make sure your slot allocation request is accurate. -- Carol Smith
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15:11.44vsrao!next
15:11.45gsocbotvsrao: "next" is (#1) Until Apr 20 - Mentoring organizations review and rank proposals, contacting students if necessary, or (#2) Also, By 19:00UTC on 10 April, please make sure your slot allocation request is accurate. -- Carol Smith
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15:20.53downey!faq
15:20.53gsocbotdowney: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs
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15:22.50downeyDoes anyone know if *former* Google employees are eligible/allowed to be GSoC students?
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15:31.03parth_!coffee
15:31.04gsocbotparth_: "coffee" is over there, go take a cup.
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15:34.41downey!tea
15:34.41gsocbotdowney: "tea" is Hot!
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15:37.03parth_!gsocbot
15:37.03gsocbotparth_: "gsocbot" is http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot
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16:01.25LetterRiphi all - should we set 'ignore' on the copy paste jobs/spam
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16:09.27kais58did I miss the date for students to apply?
16:09.39thgilYes
16:09.40haseebYes
16:09.44carlasouza!next
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16:09.45gsocbotcarlasouza: "next" is (#1) Until Apr 20 - Mentoring organizations review and rank proposals, contacting students if necessary, or (#2) Also, By 19:00UTC on 10 April, please make sure your slot allocation request is accurate. -- Carol Smith
16:10.08kais58:(
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16:15.48qballerkais58 you could still work on open source... will not be GSoC
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16:19.16kais58qballer: I would but, where do you start, I find something I'm interested in and generally get pointed at their bug tracking and told "go fix" not much help when I'm at this early stage in learning
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16:20.22qballerWhat year are you in ? what do study? (just for the record I'm a fellow student)
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16:21.17flaushykais58: maybe you could try openhatch.org
16:21.27kais581st year computer science, though I've been attempting to program since a while before I started
16:21.33harshwhat does openhatch.org do ?
16:21.42flaushyit is a small communitysite
16:21.55flaushyit tries to bring devs and orgs togethere, with small tasks
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16:22.01harshdo we have to solve bugs there?
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16:22.19harshso we gotto contribute
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16:23.12flaushyit depends on the project i believe.
16:23.24harshokay
16:23.27qballerDevelop your own code. I don't think people will have time to really teach you everything.
16:23.48flaushybut marking things as "bite-size" could help you to look at the code
16:23.57qballerThat is why we have school. The computer is just in from of you -code something.
16:24.00harshanyone applied for Mozilla ideas?
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16:25.22harshFullscreen mode?
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16:25.56fxrhkais58: some organisations participating in GSoC have seperate programs for students not accepted to GSoC, where you get a mentor, but of course not the money. Maybe if your organisation of choice has such a program, they will take you into it even if you missed the deadline?
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16:27.43harshfxrh do you know any such organisation ?
16:27.55|Kev|I think KDE has in the past.
16:28.26LetterRipharsh - most large orgs will do so
16:28.32fxrhKDE does
16:28.33LetterRipif you express adequate interest/desire
16:28.49harshokay
16:28.49LetterRipall orgs love motivated students :)
16:28.57harsh;)
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16:33.34tomprincekais58: If you respond to that "go fix" by asking for more detailed mentoring, you are at least somewhat likely to get a more detailed response.
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16:35.14LetterRipneXyon: what are you doing here? :)
16:35.32neXyonLetterRip: idling, as I do in every IRC channel :D
16:35.38LetterRipheh
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16:35.52LetterRipnot used to seeing blenderheads in the gsoc channel
16:36.03neXyonLetterRip: lol, I'm here everytime I'm online :D
16:36.30tomprincekais58: Or if you say that you missed applying, but still want to participate and be mentored, then I'd guess many orgnaizations would be happy to do that. (Although smaller orgs might be strapped for availaible mentors)
16:36.32neXyonnot only during GSoC
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16:44.54kais58went afk to eat dinner, I'll read what y'all said now
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16:54.35wtachi!next
16:54.36gsocbotwtachi: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors until accepted proposals are announced 19:00 UTC April 23, or (#2) Organizations: by 19:00 UTC April 10, make sure your slot allocation request is accurate
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17:04.46downeyDoes anyone know if a student can see the value of "Assigned mentor"?
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17:05.02|Kev|I do not believe so.
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17:27.20anitampi'm cold and sweating
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17:27.51anitampoops :)
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17:27.59thgil...
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17:32.07Asidois student registration phase over? a web page shows 1 week 4 days. or is it a deadline of student review?
17:32.18thgilyes
17:32.35thgilAsido:  it ended last friday
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17:33.27thgil!next
17:33.28gsocbotthgil: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors until accepted proposals are announced 19:00 UTC April 23, or (#2) Organizations: by 19:00 UTC April 10, make sure your slot allocation request is accurate
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17:38.27DhruvaTB!numapps
17:38.27gsocbotDhruvaTB: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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18:01.03gsocbotv1z: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors until accepted proposals are announced 19:00 UTC April 23, or (#2) Organizations: by 19:00 UTC April 10, make sure your slot allocation request is accurate
18:01.22v1zvai no #gsoc, digita !next
18:01.30v1z(ops)
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18:12.27gsocbothumannoise: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors until accepted proposals are announced 19:00 UTC April 23, or (#2) Organizations: by 19:00 UTC April 10, make sure your slot allocation request is accurate
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18:16.38gsocbotyashshah: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors until accepted proposals are announced 19:00 UTC April 23, or (#2) Organizations: by 19:00 UTC April 10, make sure your slot allocation request is accurate
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18:26.17v1zhumannoise: in truth, from what I see in the timeline/calendar, Apr. 20 is really the deadline for you to impress the mentors
18:26.49v1zok.
18:27.46thgilv1z: What happens on the 20th?
18:28.03humannoisev1z:  i think i got, i will work on it, maybe can achieve something interesting
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18:29.58v1zthgil: Student ranking/scoring deadline
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18:32.44Uzixcan I edit my comment?
18:34.04thgilI dont think comments an be edited
18:34.15thgilcan*
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18:39.06ChrisOelmueller!edit | Uzix
18:39.06gsocbotUzix: "edit" is Students can edit proposals up until the application deadline. Mentors can allow students to edit proposals on a case-by-case basis after the deadline. Note that comments on proposals can _not_ be edited after submitting.
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18:42.09v1zUzix: comments cannot be edited. Just post a new comment with the corrections.
18:42.28Uzixok
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19:33.14demosdemon!slots
19:33.14gsocbotdemosdemon: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations
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19:50.44romsriniI have a question as a first time participating organization. our mentors are full time staff and will be able to use work time to mentor, so I was wondering if your suggestion of using 2 mentors per student is just a suggestion or a requirment?
19:53.40kblinit's a suggestion
19:53.59romsrinithanks
19:54.04kblinbut the idea is to increase the bus factor of your mentors
19:54.45kblinreal life happens, and it's good if there's a backup mentor around who'd be able to pick up
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19:57.21kais58is there a mailing list or something similar that can notify me of when deadlines are for gsoc so I dont miss out next year?
19:57.54stepmuelHey Catfish_Man! You told me you have lived in portland?
20:01.14stepmuelCatfish_Man: Can you give me some hints about residence?
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20:04.14ThomasWaldmannkais58: google's open source blog, slashdot, other geek/developer news sites
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20:10.42kais58ThomasWaldmann: not much help if I have to follow whole news sites for stuff only about this
20:12.39klocatellijust idle in the channel?
20:13.31allmankais58: make a note to start reading the OSPO blog around February 2013. If we run the program again we will announce it there.
20:13.50Catfish_Manstepmuel: I was at lunch, what's up?
20:14.30stepmuelCatfish_Man: just thought you might have some hints on where to live :-)
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20:14.50stepmuelCatfish_Man: have you studied at the state university?
20:15.05Catfish_Manstepmuel: depends a lot on what you can afford. I grew up in eastmoreland, which is lovely, but somewhat expensive (and more geared towards long term residency)
20:15.10Catfish_ManI studied at PSU for one term or so
20:15.58stepmueldo you know if it is possible to rent a on-campus room for two weeks? or where I could ask…
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20:16.22Catfish_Manstepmuel: PSU doesn't exactly have a "campus" with dorms and such really, it's smack in the middle of downtown
20:16.47Catfish_ManI bet they have advice on housing for prospective students though
20:17.05kais58added this channel to my autojoin and added the ospo rss feed so should be good now
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20:17.26Catfish_Manstepmuel: My girlfriend used to live at 1919 Northeast Schuyler, which is nicely public transit accessible and a decent area
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20:18.24stepmuelso those housings don't belong to the university? http://www.pdx.edu/housing/
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20:20.41stepmuelor do you know about a website where you can find free flats or a bulletin board or forum where I can find people who are looking for roommates?
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20:21.26Catfish_Manstepmuel: I'm not a good source of info on PSU
20:21.38Catfish_ManI was only there for a few months, and didn't live anywhere nearby
20:22.14stepmuelI have a friend who was in portland for a couple of months… I guess he can help too. but I was hoping for some PSU insider tips :-)
20:22.22stepmuelthanks anyway!
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20:25.18masqueradestepmuel: from what I understand, reddit has a fairly active portland subreddit, you might find some insider tips there
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20:28.18stepmuelmasquerade: I've never used reddit but will certainly take a look at it! thanks for the tip!
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20:57.08samourihey guys, I have a gsoc question
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20:58.15masqueradesoapyillusions: never ask to ask, just ask
20:58.17masqueradeerm
20:58.21masqueradesamouri: ^^
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20:58.39samourilol yea
20:58.40samouriok then
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20:58.53samouriMy proposal was reviewed]
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20:59.03samouriAnd I don't know If I am expected to respond
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20:59.28masqueradeI would recommend saying _something_.
20:59.41samouriThere were many questions asked.  Is the proper place to respond (if is hold respond) be a comment on the gsoc proposal?
20:59.51samouri(if it is proper to respond*)
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21:00.17masqueradeIf there were questions asked, definitely respond in the comments there. If those questions perhaps affect how your proposal is going to look, you can also ask if you can change the proposal and have them comment on the updates
21:00.41ajedwhat were the questions? it might be better to reply directly to your mentor
21:01.01masqueradeBut do respond in melange. If you do IRC or mailing lists or otherwise not all mentors will see it. It is still early enough that you may not have been assigned a mentor and so your standing across the board is important
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21:21.11leoburdhi, for some reason i'm unable to see or add comments to project proposals...
21:21.52leoburdcan anybody help me out?
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22:24.08paroneayeawhat's the proper way to un-accept a proposal?
22:24.13paroneayeais it to "ignore proposal"?
22:24.17paroneayeaseems so mean :)
22:25.19gevaertsparoneayea: I believe ignoring is only appropriate for junk proposals
22:25.30Catfish_Manprobably just vote it down if it's like it was a few years ago
22:25.32gevaertsisn't sure what unaccepting actually means here
22:25.48|Kev|paroneayea: Do not ignore just to unaccept. Just toggle the 'accept' switch.
22:26.10Catfish_ManKev appears to know what's up here
22:26.50paroneayea|Kev|: thx :)
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22:52.54ojwbleoburd: you should be able to see and add comments (certainy some students seem to be able to) - perhaps ask in #melange (though don't expect an instant response)
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