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| 07:42.42 | gsocbot | abcfgh: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 08:27.39 | gsocbot | Stepan777: "deduplication" is on April 22nd: 19:00 UTC in #gsoc for people who can take deduplication decisions on behalf of the orgs. Usually this means an admin, but a mentor could represent the org as well. |
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| 12:58.57 | leumas | Hi, is there any Earth science related project in GSOC this year? |
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| 13:00.09 | ojwb | leumas: there's a tag search on the list of orgs, but note you're more than a week too late to apply for this year |
| 13:00.48 | leumas | ojwb: thanks for the information :) |
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| 15:49.13 | alina_ | hi! questions about what happends after submitting the proposal: is there any way to know, if your proposal was checked already? |
| 15:50.49 | fxrh | alina_: no, you have to wait until April 23. The reviewers may add public comments, which you can see, but the lack of them doesn't say anything |
| 15:51.05 | |Kev| | All proposals will have been read by now, though. |
| 15:51.18 | |Kev| | As the orgs have already asked Google for the number of slots they want based on the applications. |
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| 15:51.50 | masquerade | alina_: I would recommend being in contact with your organization via mailing lists or irc or similar |
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| 15:58.42 | ChrisOelmueller | !learn deduplication as on April 20th: 19:00 UTC in #gsoc for people who can take deduplication decisions on behalf of the orgs. Usually this means an admin, but a mentor can represent the org as well. |
| 15:58.43 | gsocbot | ChrisOelmueller: "deduplication" is (#1) on April 22nd: 19:00 UTC in #gsoc for people who can take deduplication decisions on behalf of the orgs. Usually this means an admin, but a mentor could represent the org as well., or (#2) on April 20th: 19:00 UTC in #gsoc for people who can take deduplication decisions on behalf of the orgs. Usually this means an admin, but a mentor can represent the org as well. |
| 15:58.57 | ChrisOelmueller | !forget deduplication 1 |
| 15:58.57 | gsocbot | ChrisOelmueller: "deduplication" is on April 20th: 19:00 UTC in #gsoc for people who can take deduplication decisions on behalf of the orgs. Usually this means an admin, but a mentor can represent the org as well. |
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| 15:59.52 | platzhirsch | !next |
| 15:59.53 | gsocbot | platzhirsch: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 19:33.36 | thgil | The chat is so quiet today.. |
| 19:34.52 | flaushy | saturday night :) |
| 19:35.18 | thgil | Oh |
| 19:35.28 | Ivanovic | but it is just lunchtime! |
| 19:35.48 | flaushy | 9 pm lunch... hmm .. sounds good :) |
| 19:36.12 | thgil | yah I tend to have mine a little earlier.. |
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| 19:42.10 | Ivanovic | why do you think it would be 9pm? |
| 19:42.18 | Ivanovic | it isn't even 2pm yet! |
| 19:43.04 | bretonium | 00:42, Sunday here |
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| 20:48.36 | Stepan777 | !slots |
| 20:48.37 | gsocbot | Stepan777: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
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| 21:57.06 | amanforindia | when will the orgs know how many slots they have? |
| 21:57.29 | meflin | they do now |
| 21:58.09 | amanforindia | ok... so what is the period from 20-23 april for exactly? |
| 21:58.27 | meflin | 23rd for student notifications |
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| 21:59.21 | amanforindia | ok |
| 21:59.29 | Upth | right, but 20th is for student acceptance decisions |
| 21:59.37 | Upth | why 3 days between? |
| 21:59.41 | MatthewWilkes | contingency |
| 21:59.47 | meflin | weekend? |
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| 22:00.17 | Upthorn | weekend makes sense |
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| 22:00.30 | Upthorn | I was just trying to clarify aman's question |
| 22:01.12 | amanforindia | is it a good idea to ask org's about rankings now? |
| 22:01.42 | amanforindia | i have end-sems coming up and am spending sleepless nights because of this |
| 22:02.17 | MatthewWilkes | amanforindia: No, you will just put them in a difficult position |
| 22:02.20 | MatthewWilkes | amanforindia: They aren't allowed to tell you |
| 22:02.49 | amanforindia | oh... ok... i can still ask about how many slots they got right? |
| 22:03.14 | meflin | just slots sure .. ofcourse that has nothing to do if you are in finals or not |
| 22:03.19 | MatthewWilkes | amanforindia: That's probably okay, but the number isn't locked in stone yet, it could change |
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| 22:03.43 | amanforindia | oh... why change? |
| 22:03.59 | MatthewWilkes | for example, last year we gave one slot away a couple of days before the deadline as we got our upper limit for the amount we wanted but decided in the end that one of the students wasn't good enough |
| 22:04.07 | MatthewWilkes | so we went down by 1 and KDE went up by 1 |
| 22:04.39 | amanforindia | ok |
| 22:05.18 | MatthewWilkes | the year before the opposite happened, someone gave us a slot |
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| 22:07.28 | thiago | was that last year? |
| 22:07.51 | thiago | I remember KDE getting an extra student the year before that (2009) |
| 22:08.39 | thiago | maybe it happened in both years from different orgs |
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| 22:08.48 | pokoko222 | wow 5 days left |
| 22:09.05 | thiago | closer to 6 |
| 22:09.05 | pokoko222 | can I ask the mentor for the results at april 20? |
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| 22:09.11 | thiago | !next |
| 22:09.12 | gsocbot | thiago: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 22:09.13 | pokoko222 | or should I wait for official results on 23 |
| 22:09.21 | thiago | pokoko222: no. On the 23. |
| 22:09.25 | ChrisOelmueller | there's a reason why the date is 23. and not 20. |
| 22:10.08 | pokoko222 | anyways for my project nobody sends stuff anymore |
| 22:10.14 | pokoko222 | seems people got back to school |
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| 22:10.22 | pokoko222 | there is no reason for me to code more either then |
| 22:10.45 | thiago | it's quite likely organisations are close to finishing their ranking |
| 22:10.57 | pokoko222 | yeah |
| 22:11.18 | thiago | if you have pressing things to do, go do them |
| 22:11.26 | pokoko222 | I mean, I was thinking about coding more you know but nah |
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| 22:11.31 | thiago | just make sure you reply to questions quickly, if there are any |
| 22:11.32 | pokoko222 | yep got school, lots of it |
| 22:11.37 | pokoko222 | yes of course |
| 22:12.04 | pokoko222 | they send the t-shirt right away if you are accepted? :D |
| 22:12.16 | thiago | "Mr. Professor, sorry, I didn't do that UML diagram you asked because I was coding online" |
| 22:12.49 | pokoko222 | hahaha yeah have done that :D |
| 22:12.55 | thiago | go do your UML diagrams... it's important you see them now because you're not going to see them after you're done with school |
| 22:12.59 | thiago | :-) |
| 22:13.08 | pokoko222 | hahaha :D |
| 22:13.08 | pokoko222 | I did them last year |
| 22:13.23 | thiago | last saw UML in 2003 or 2004 |
| 22:13.56 | pokoko222 | I actually thought UML is cool but it is useless actually, I mean you code so much, you will waste more time in drawing than in coding |
| 22:14.12 | pokoko222 | unless the employer wants me to I doubt I will ever do uml |
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| 22:14.50 | thiago | UML is good for middle management to feel like they are following the project's progress |
| 22:15.02 | pokoko222 | I remember an older friend once told me, after a while you dont need uml since you can handle lots of things in your head |
| 22:15.10 | thiago | my recommendation is: find a company that *understands* development. |
| 22:15.16 | pokoko222 | thiago: it is good for dumb managers too see pictures too :D |
| 22:15.25 | thiago | one where middle management trusts you when you say what you say about the project |
| 22:15.49 | pokoko222 | lets hope so... I heard managers can be pain in the ass |
| 22:16.04 | pokoko222 | havent had real job yet, still a virgin :D |
| 22:16.06 | ojwb | UML always makes me think User Mode Linux, not the other thing |
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| 22:25.52 | MatthewWilkes | thiago: Maybe it was the year before, thought it was last year though |
| 22:26.30 | thiago | you might be right though: the 51st student of last year |
| 22:26.46 | thiago | 51 is a rather uneven number |
| 22:26.51 | MatthewWilkes | there was an little project a while back to convert UML diagrams to plone code, that was fun for a while |
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| 22:28.28 | ojwb | MatthewWilkes: wouldn't most people find the opposite useful? |
| 22:28.46 | MatthewWilkes | ojwb: No, the APIs involved a few years ago were deeply weird |
| 22:28.47 | ojwb | "I've written the code already, but my manager wants a UML diagram" |
| 22:28.52 | ojwb | ah |
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| 22:29.02 | MatthewWilkes | there has been a lot of improvement since |
| 22:29.11 | MatthewWilkes | but it involved metaclass hacks and code generation |
| 22:29.32 | MatthewWilkes | most people just cargoculted |
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| 22:29.53 | tomprince | I think UML is probably useful, except that it is probably often "doing UML for the sake of doing UML", rather than "doing UML to get a handle on what is going on" |
| 22:31.05 | MatthewWilkes | thiago: Apr 14 2011 15:37:49 <MatthewWilkes>Want another slot? <-- it was a year and 8 hours ago ;) |
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