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07:46.07 | sourabh0612 | !app-nums |
07:46.14 | sourabh0612 | !app-numbers |
07:47.01 | ojwb | !num-apps | sourabh0612 |
07:47.07 | ojwb | !numapps | sourabh0612 |
07:47.08 | gsocbot | sourabh0612: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
07:47.12 | ojwb | coughs |
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07:47.22 | sourabh0612 | thanks ojwb |
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07:49.38 | klocatelli | wow that's a huge jump in proposals |
07:49.40 | klocatelli | and students |
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07:50.38 | ojwb | klocatelli: might just be more junk |
07:51.28 | klocatelli | possibly, I guess we'll see in about a week with the 2012 accepted proposals number |
07:52.03 | ojwb | i suspect that number is pretty much decided in advance |
07:52.17 | klocatelli | oh yeah, true... |
07:52.19 | ojwb | since they'll need to get a budget agreed |
07:52.31 | klocatelli | aren't you part of an org? |
07:52.52 | ojwb | yes, but I don't have any magic knowledge of how many student places there will be |
07:53.12 | ojwb | I can tell you it's more than 80 I think |
07:53.40 | ojwb | the total number of slots for orgs I know about is around that |
07:54.03 | klocatelli | no I know that, I was just wondering if your org in particular noticed any change in the crap:gold ratio compared to previous years |
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07:54.34 | ojwb | http://survex.com/~olly/blog/xapian/xapian-gsoc-applications-for-2012.html |
07:54.56 | ojwb | I'd say slightly less gold, but what there is is a little shinier |
07:55.28 | ojwb | that's actually off by one - I noticed one which I'd failed to mark as invalid after I posted that |
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07:59.32 | kai | "Chromium can't display the webpage because your computer isn't connected to the Internet." |
07:59.35 | kai | aha |
07:59.44 | |Kev| | Comparatively, we've noticed significantly more decent applications this year than previous years. |
07:59.45 | kai | I don't think so, Mr. Error Message |
07:59.48 | |Kev| | (And more gold) |
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08:00.25 | kai | |Kev|: interesting, I'd say the trend for us is sligtly worse than last year |
08:00.34 | |Kev| | Most orgs seem to have said that. |
08:01.13 | kai | not counting worldforge, where we're umbrellaing for one more org, so we saw more proposals overall, and good proposals for all orgs |
08:01.24 | kai | so that's a bit hard to compare |
08:01.43 | klocatelli | ojwb, it's interesting how that time graph varies between this year and last... a lot more last minute proposals |
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08:02.01 | ojwb | it's very variable between orgs too |
08:02.25 | klocatelli | I wonder what the trend is for acceptance : application time overall the orgs |
08:02.26 | ojwb | i posted a link to the spreadsheet on the mentor list and a few orgs have put up graphs |
08:02.26 | pranjal710 | Is there anyway to know orgs response towards our proposal? |
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08:02.40 | |Kev| | pranjal710: Yes, check the list on teh 23rd. |
08:03.03 | bretonium | I wonder how many last-minute proposals where accepted last year |
08:03.05 | bretonium | *were |
08:03.51 | ojwb | http://rtemsramblings.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/rtems-gsoc-applications-for-2012.html is one |
08:03.52 | kai | bretonium: I've seen last minute proposals by people who were in contact with the org for weeks prior to gsoc |
08:04.02 | ojwb | sometimes it's been polished for weeks |
08:04.17 | ojwb | the quality does tend to drop towards the deadline though |
08:04.20 | kai | hehe |
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08:04.40 | kai | two orgs that use "S" as their small logo for melange on the front page |
08:05.16 | pranjal710 | Yes, I know about 23rd. But I was just thinking, if we could know the count of proposals on any project and the number of slots the org has.. |
08:05.17 | ojwb | and mono have a broken link... |
08:05.26 | ojwb | pranjal710: then you couldn't tell much at all |
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08:06.11 | ojwb | it isn't a random draw, it's the quality which matters |
08:06.52 | pranjal710 | True. :( |
08:07.37 | pranjal710 | yeah its the quality, but atleast if I get to know about my org |
08:08.18 | pranjal710 | because no one will comment on my proposal relative others |
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08:08.35 | pranjal710 | 'and 23rd is quite far |
08:09.06 | ojwb | it seems scarily close when you have a pile of proposals to decide on |
08:09.52 | pranjal710 | and very far when you have to wait for a result for something you have worked on |
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08:11.23 | pranjal710 | Can I ask it on my orgs IRC?? I think it wont be good |
08:11.32 | klocatelli | just chill out man :D the 23rd will come eventually (probably) |
08:11.32 | pranjal710 | will it be? |
08:11.56 | pranjal710 | probably :D |
08:11.59 | klocatelli | knowing won't affect the result so why worry? ;) |
08:12.43 | |Kev| | pranjal710: Asking if you're going to get accepted can only annoy them and hurt your chances, I would imagine. |
08:12.43 | kai | pranjal710: the orgs can't tell you either |
08:12.52 | |Kev| | They're not allowed to tell you anything. |
08:13.01 | pranjal710 | ok |
08:13.13 | kai | they don't know for certain until the list is public :) |
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08:29.41 | EvilTosha-home | hello all |
08:29.50 | EvilTosha-home | is it normal, that i havent received any notifications from melange? |
08:29.57 | EvilTosha-home | even about registration |
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08:31.28 | kai | EvilTosha-home: check your spam filter |
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08:31.46 | EvilTosha-home | kai: already done |
08:32.03 | EvilTosha-home | and i also checked correctness of email adress |
08:34.11 | ojwb | i don't recall a notification about registering, but you should get one by default if someone comments on your proposal |
08:34.30 | ojwb | you're signing in with your google account, so there's no email verification needed anyway |
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08:35.25 | EvilTosha-home | and how about my own comment? should i get notification about that? |
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08:37.01 | guifre | I don't think so |
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08:38.16 | EvilTosha-home | ok, so if there was no comments, i shouldn't det any notifications? |
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09:00.16 | kai | EvilTosha-home: right |
09:00.31 | EvilTosha-home | kai: thx |
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09:11.04 | ojwb | EvilTosha-home: if you think you've missed a comment notification. just check your proposal in melange and see if there are any comments on it |
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11:01.03 | dreamer | hi all, I'm a bit confused with the gsoc2012 page. on some part it says the registration-deadline has passed (april 6th), but the program timeline says that student applications are still running (with a 'proposal matched deadline' in 4 days) |
11:01.35 | dreamer | so, is it still possible to enroll or do I need to wait until next year? (at which point I'm possibly no longer eligible to enroll) |
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11:02.09 | om_ | dreamer: it's too late for student applications, the deadline was April 6 |
11:02.51 | om_ | mentors can still apply I think, and the students will be chosen by friday/announced on next monday |
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11:07.28 | dreamer | om_: k. too bad. I never found the chance to participate and soon I'll no longer be a student -_- |
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11:14.08 | ojwb | dreamer: the timeline is saying that student applications are still being *processed* by orgs |
11:14.45 | dreamer | k, wish I had found out sooner -_- |
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11:38.04 | hsr | is now playing: Tiesto - Adagio 4 Strings (Blezi Remix) |
11:38.40 | hsr | >_> |
11:38.42 | hsr | <_< |
11:38.45 | hsr | >_< |
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11:44.22 | kai | hsr: right, please keep scripts like that off in here |
11:44.33 | kai | imagine the noise if everyone had those :) |
11:44.47 | hsr | sorry, was testing out one script |
11:44.52 | hsr | global was turned on |
11:44.54 | hsr | :( |
11:45.07 | kai | yeah, no harm done yet.. :) |
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13:05.38 | Tomkiewicz-1 | Hi, when will be done students verification (ie. university check)? |
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13:06.08 | kai | Tomkiewicz-1: after the students have been accepted |
13:06.57 | Tomkiewicz-1 | That means: after proposal will be accepted by mentor organisation? |
13:07.03 | |Kev| | Yes. |
13:07.08 | Tomkiewicz-1 | Thanks |
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13:18.54 | kai | amazing how people a trying to pick a fight with chris on the mailing list |
13:20.43 | ojwb | does wonder if he's trying to troll |
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13:22.03 | ojwb | he was posting from a gmail address too, so if you don't recognise the name you probably wouldn't guess he's with the OSPO |
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13:22.54 | kai | ojwb: apart from the signature |
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13:23.04 | ojwb | oh, i failed to notice that |
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13:23.34 | kai | happened to some other people, too, I'd say |
13:23.54 | kai | I wonder if "Director of atypical intellectual property, Google Inc." is his official title |
13:24.05 | kai | that probably looks awesome on a business car |
13:24.06 | kai | d |
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13:25.28 | ojwb | kai: ah, that's only on some of his messages to that thread |
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13:26.12 | kai | it was on all emails I tried |
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13:26.19 | kai | just need to scroll waaaaaaay down |
13:26.36 | kai | gmail made people forget how to properly edit email replies |
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13:26.56 | ojwb | i looked in gmail, since I get a second copy of all the list mail there |
13:27.02 | ojwb | perhaps it hid it from me |
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13:27.49 | kai | I've looked at 5 of his posts, and all have the sig |
13:28.11 | kai | anyway, enjoyable thread |
13:28.48 | kai | I for one will advocate a rule that only allows duels with mentors using non-battery powered nerf guns |
13:29.19 | ojwb | looking at the original text, yes, gmail is hiding it |
13:29.34 | ojwb | the apparently 2 line mail is actually a zillion lines of top quote |
13:30.35 | kai | yes |
13:30.50 | kai | as I said, gmail makes people suck at writing emails |
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13:31.49 | |Kev| | I manage to write emails perfectly well using gmail, thank you :p |
13:32.22 | ojwb | it's at least possible, which it doesn't really seem to be with outlook |
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13:35.14 | kai | |Kev|: right, but I'd say the numbers still support my conclusions |
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14:11.05 | ashwinravichandr | Anyone here? |
14:11.12 | downey | no one. |
14:12.23 | |Kev| | /names tells me there're 385 nicks in here. So probably no-one's here. |
14:13.01 | aghisla | is not there |
14:13.17 | |Kev| | is not all there |
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14:14.11 | MatthewWilkes | hehe |
14:14.54 | kai | I'll get some more coffee, then I'll try to figure out if I'm here |
14:15.04 | hsr | didn't we have piping? |
14:15.19 | hsr | !anyone | ashwinravichandr |
14:15.19 | gsocbot | ashwinravichandr: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
14:15.34 | MatthewWilkes | !this cookie | hsr |
14:15.34 | gsocbot | hsr: "this cookie" is for you |
14:15.41 | hsr | yay! |
14:16.03 | JordiGH | I'm only morally here. |
14:16.19 | hsr | technically, my bouncer is here |
14:16.33 | MatthewWilkes | To steal |Kev|'s joke, I'm certainly not all here morally |
14:16.34 | hsr | and hsr's minion hamster is typing all this |
14:17.12 | hsr | !knock-knock |
14:17.26 | hsr | gsocbot should tell jokes too |
14:17.29 | hsr | bad bot |
14:18.02 | dadkins | !cookie | hsr |
14:18.02 | gsocbot | hsr: "cookie" is omnomnom |
14:18.12 | dadkins | you get a cookie for a good suggestion :) |
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14:18.19 | hsr | so many cookies |
14:18.30 | hsr | is *happy* |
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14:24.18 | bretonium | screen detached. Say what you want to say, delivery is guaranteed. |
14:24.29 | bretonium | from somebody's status. |
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15:00.26 | *** topic/#gsoc is http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted organizations have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. | If your org was rejected and you want to find out why, email carols | The student submission period has ended, good luck to everyone who applied! |
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16:16.09 | JordiGH | Is there a link somewhere from a proposal to proposals submitted to my org(s)? |
16:16.26 | JordiGH | Navigation could be better... Hmm... |
16:16.54 | JordiGH | I'd submit a patch, but I don't want to agree to the Melange CLA because it uses the annoying term "intellectual property". :-/ |
16:18.07 | MatthewWilkes | JordiGH: Wtf? |
16:18.30 | MatthewWilkes | JordiGH: it's a standard legal term used by most contributor agreements in some form or another |
16:18.49 | JordiGH | Standard or not, it's dumb, and I have never agreed to any agreement that uses it. |
16:19.00 | MatthewWilkes | JordiGH: Why? |
16:19.01 | JordiGH | It means nothing. |
16:19.07 | guifre | you must be form fsf |
16:19.31 | MatthewWilkes | JordiGH: For something that means nothing everyone else seems to understand exactly what it means |
16:19.44 | JordiGH | MatthewWilkes: No, they really don't. That's precisely the problem. Nobody really knows what it means. |
16:19.49 | gevaerts | thinks there are more problems with this CLA, such as it not allowing to submit patches that use code copied from elsewhere |
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16:20.55 | JordiGH | MatthewWilkes: People use the word without really knowing what it means nor what it implies. It's vague and describes nothing accurately, plus it perpetuates an image that "something" (intellect?) is owned. |
16:21.03 | MatthewWilkes | rolls his eyes |
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16:21.36 | |Kev| | Anything I own is intellectual property, 'cos I own it, and I'm an intellectual, like. Seems obvious to me guv. |
16:21.41 | JordiGH | MatthewWilkes: The recent ruling that code isn't physical property so it can't be stolen at least shatters some of the meanings of "intellectual property". |
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16:22.25 | MatthewWilkes | JordiGH: No it doesn't. |
16:22.30 | MatthewWilkes | stops feeding |
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16:22.47 | JordiGH | A minority opinion isn't a troll. |
16:22.54 | JordiGH | At any rate, back to melange, does it have the kind of navigation I want? |
16:23.18 | |Kev| | I don't think so, but I'm sure patches are welcome. |
16:23.23 | dadkins | don't think so 00 i just use a separate tab for each proposal |
16:23.24 | JordiGH | No, they're not. :-( |
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16:24.02 | MatthewWilkes | Yeah, they are |
16:24.05 | MatthewWilkes | you're just a troll |
16:24.13 | MatthewWilkes | trolls don't have the manual dexterity to patch |
16:24.17 | MatthewWilkes | big hands |
16:24.33 | JordiGH | Sigh, ad hominem. |
16:25.15 | JordiGH | I guess I'll just open a bunch of tabs. |
16:25.47 | JordiGH | |Kev|: but when you manipulate a proposal, you go back to the list of proposals. I end up hitting the back button and refreshing to see what I just did. |
16:26.14 | MatthewWilkes | ad Beluae, surely |
16:26.15 | |Kev| | I open one tab per proposal when I'm doing stuff to many at once. |
16:26.18 | ChrisOelmueller | i've seen a patch by jordi being rejected because of this, so i pretty much have to agree with him |
16:26.22 | MatthewWilkes | (to the troll) |
16:26.49 | |Kev| | ChrisOelmueller: Being rejected because he presses back on his browser? |
16:27.02 | gevaerts | disagrees with MatthewWilkes |
16:27.05 | ChrisOelmueller | nah that would be outstanding even for melange |
16:27.10 | ChrisOelmueller | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1477 fwiw |
16:27.10 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Your latin's probably better than mine |
16:27.13 | JordiGH | |Kev|: Yeah, I've been doiing the same. |
16:27.33 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Patches welcome |
16:28.14 | |Kev| | ChrisOelmueller: This seems to getting a patch rejected because of not complying with project policy - which seems like a fine reason to reject a patch. |
16:28.47 | gevaerts | I'd say that anyone who marks a bug as wontfix because someone submits a one word patch without accompanying CLA deserves to get no contributions at all, ever |
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16:30.06 | JordiGH | At least those notorious trolls, the FSF, only requires legalese for substantial contributions. |
16:30.28 | JordiGH | So someone outwhackoed the FSF. :-) |
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16:34.27 | qballer | !time |
16:34.27 | gsocbot | qballer: "time" is has come, the walrus said, to speak of other things. |
16:34.40 | JordiGH | Haha. |
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16:35.26 | dadkins | !yes | qballer |
16:35.26 | gsocbot | qballer: "yes" is Here, have a cookie! |
16:35.35 | qballer | Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax-- |
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16:36.01 | JordiGH | And whether pigs have wings and why the sea is boiling hot. |
16:36.35 | qballer | a loaf of bread, the walrus said |
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16:56.18 | JordiGH | Hm, difficult to rank. Should it be by total score or by average score? :P |
16:56.39 | JordiGH | Total score of course can be meaningless in general. 10 1-star rankings are obviously worse than 2 5-star rankings. |
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17:08.39 | carols | serves some coffee |
17:08.46 | carols | has some coffee and tries to wake up |
17:08.54 | demosdemon | waves to carols |
17:08.57 | demosdemon | morning |
17:09.01 | demosdemon | and coffee is good |
17:09.17 | carols | morning demosdemon |
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17:14.51 | MatthewWilkes | carols! |
17:15.00 | carols | MatthewWilkes! |
17:15.23 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I forgot to ask, by the way, how was the triathlon? |
17:15.30 | carols | MatthewWilkes: it was great. |
17:15.38 | agliodbs | carols: you were triathaloning? |
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17:16.12 | carols | agliodbs: i was. in hawaii. i was raising money for the leukemia and lymphoma society on a friend of mine's behalf (who has cancer), and I did a triathlon two weeks ago for it. |
17:17.04 | agliodbs | wow |
17:17.24 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Glad to hear it! |
17:17.38 | carols | thanks for asking :-) |
17:17.41 | carols | it was really good |
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17:17.52 | carols | photos of me crossing the finish line will be going out to my donors soon |
17:17.52 | agliodbs | carols: tanned now? |
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17:20.28 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Make sure to photoshop ridiculously photogenic guy into the background |
17:20.40 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i'll be sure to do that. |
17:20.46 | carols | agliodbs: nah, i wore sunscreen :-) |
17:21.32 | |Kev| | I find doing runs (rarely!) over here hard enough. Doing a triathlon in the sun sounds horrendous. |
17:21.50 | MatthewWilkes | I think I'd rather swim in hawaii than in the bristol channel, though |
17:21.56 | |Kev| | Well, yes. |
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17:22.15 | MatthewWilkes | I need a sit down just thinking about running, though |
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17:22.45 | |Kev| | I was starting again, ready for a half in October, until I knockered my knee/ankle a couple of months ago. Hoping to start again in a few weeks. |
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17:24.18 | |Kev| | I suspect I'll be starting from scratch and my half will involve walking, irritatingly. |
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17:38.01 | sonney2k | JordiGH, I finally managed to transfer 1 slot - now I hope for you that carols is trying hard to get it to you :) |
17:38.13 | JordiGH | sonney2k: Woohoo, thanks! |
17:38.41 | carols | :-) |
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17:47.12 | qballer | Does GSoC admins also review the final proposal for orgs? |
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17:47.52 | agliodbs | qballer: depends on the organization |
17:48.02 | qballer | meaning? |
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17:48.19 | agliodbs | qballer: um, I don't know how to be more clear |
17:48.44 | carols | qballer: what would you like to know? |
17:48.55 | carols | do you mean gsoc program admins or organization admins? |
17:48.55 | qballer | It's clear. |
17:48.59 | carols | ok |
17:49.01 | qballer | program admin |
17:49.09 | carols | no, i don't look at applications. |
17:49.56 | qballer | just wondering. thanks. need to fast forward time some how... |
17:50.57 | Catfish_Man | qballer: make some code go faster. I find I can spend infinite amounts of time on that |
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17:51.17 | |Kev| | Is making time go faster premature optimisation? |
17:51.40 | qballer | Yea, I'm debugging as we speak. tomorrow it will even be my code I will debug :) |
17:51.57 | Catfish_Man | |Kev|: worse, it's a regression. If time goes faster, everything takes more seconds to complete, since the things aren't going faster |
17:51.58 | Catfish_Man | ;) |
17:52.04 | |Kev| | Heh. |
17:52.20 | qballer | You guys are very silly (in a good way) today. |
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18:13.11 | eggy_ | carols: Hey, the person from the Python software foundation has not admitted the mentors of my (and another student's) projects yet (no response), do you have any suggestions as to what we should do (other than keep trying to contact that person?) |
18:13.28 | carols | eggy_: you're referring to arc? |
18:13.32 | eggy_ | carols: yes |
18:13.53 | carols | and the problem is that you're looking for the pst to be an umbrella for your org? |
18:14.09 | eggy_ | That's correct, it's the Cython project |
18:14.22 | eggy_ | Last year two projects were allocated under the PSF |
18:14.28 | carols | that's entirely at their discretion, so i'm sorry, i can't help you with that. |
18:14.33 | carols | so yes, you need to speak to arc |
18:15.03 | eggy_ | Right, ok. The thing is that if they wouldn't allow us, we should probably have received a response :) |
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18:15.22 | eggy_ | Arc: Hey, are you there? |
18:15.25 | |Kev| | eggy_: Are you the mentor or the student? |
18:15.43 | eggy_ | |Kev|: I am the student, but I can refer you to the mentors by email if you want |
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18:15.58 | eggy_ | There is another student with a proposal as well |
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18:16.22 | |Kev| | No, I was just going to say that I wouldn't necessarily send any note to a student applying with a proposal for a project not under our umbrella. |
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18:17.50 | eggy_ | Right, but the mentors themselves have contacted Arc several times for the last couple of weeks |
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18:17.57 | eggy_ | I just started today, since the deadline is closing in |
18:18.18 | |Kev| | Ignore me then. |
18:18.33 | eggy_ | And out of courtesy one should always reply, and not ignore emails |
18:19.30 | carols | eggy_: speaking as someone who sends on the order of 200-300 emails a day, i can understand getting behind. |
18:19.39 | carols | i don't think arc is ignoring you, i think this is just a busy time. |
18:20.42 | eggy_ | carols: Yes, I sympathize completely, but I should make sure it is handled on time (they started signing up several weeks ago) |
18:21.01 | carols | indeed. |
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18:33.39 | kblin | carols: hey there |
18:33.46 | carols | kblin: hey there |
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18:35.16 | kblin | carols: do you think we're going to need a queueing bot for the dedup meeting? |
18:35.55 | carols | kblin: maybe? i could just call on people when i need them. |
18:36.00 | carols | OR we could queue them |
18:36.10 | carols | i don't think it'll be that many people, though. |
18:36.18 | |Kev| | Given that more people will end up getting duped during the meeting, queuing seems liek it might not work well. |
18:36.24 | |Kev| | s/will/could/ |
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18:38.29 | kblin | yeah, I think in the last years we did the whole mute channel/voice people thing manually |
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18:41.39 | kblin | carols: I might have to step in for Wine for the dedup meeting as well, if none of the Wine folks can make it on friday, I take that's not a problem from the google side, assuming I have a clue on their duplicated students and solutions for deduplications? |
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18:41.55 | JordiGH | What's this dedup thing? I don't really get it. |
18:42.01 | JordiGH | dox plz |
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18:42.09 | carols | kblin: as long as you have all agreed amongst yourself that the decisions you make are trusted with the rest of the org, then you're good |
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18:42.33 | carols | JordiGH: you read my email, yes? |
18:42.53 | JordiGH | carols: About the donated slot? |
18:43.05 | kblin | JordiGH: no, the longish but important one |
18:43.07 | carols | JordiGH: about deduplication, slot allocations, etc. |
18:43.15 | kblin | before the entertaining flamewar started |
18:43.27 | |Kev| | Long before, to be fair. |
18:43.28 | JordiGH | Ah, it's a flamethread? That'll make it easier to find. |
18:43.41 | JordiGH | Found it. |
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18:44.38 | carols | great. |
18:45.08 | kblin | JordiGH: nono, the flame thread started after that |
18:45.36 | JordiGH | 19 isn't so much of a flamethread. |
18:45.45 | |Kev| | 19 isn't the flame thread. |
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18:45.51 | JordiGH | The 79-and-counting flamethread in -mentors is much more of a flamethread. :-) |
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18:46.01 | Triskelios | I assume kblin means the the stupidity about cultural imperialism and plagiarism? |
18:46.03 | gevaerts | thinks the flame thread was a bit derivative :) |
18:46.32 | JordiGH | ETA 'till Godwin? |
18:46.44 | kblin | JordiGH: that's the one I meant |
18:46.56 | JordiGH | Or have we already achieved Godwinhood? |
18:47.05 | kblin | no, not quite |
18:47.30 | JordiGH | Okay, I'll peer at it later. Gotta understand this dedup thing right now. |
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18:47.51 | gevaerts | That's been done before. Copying a thread ending idea from someone else would not be appropriate here |
18:48.04 | |Kev| | There's not much to understand. You turn up, if you have students you've accepted also accepted by another org, you decide which org they go to, and possibly select another instead. |
18:48.09 | kblin | you could cite the law |
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18:48.40 | JordiGH | No no. |
18:48.45 | JordiGH | It's a common misconception of Godwin. |
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18:49.21 | JordiGH | Godwin is not a law in the sense of "this is what must be done". It's not a law that can be broken. It's an empirical observation. It simply states that it will eventually happen with high probability. |
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18:50.03 | pokoko222 | oh boy D-Day is near :D |
18:50.06 | JordiGH | As an empirical observation, it may be incorrect, of course, but so are Newton's laws of motion. The awareness of Godwin's law kinda breaks it, sadly. |
18:50.13 | sfb | Man. Is there somplace other than #melange to get help with Melange problems? |
18:50.21 | gevaerts | JordiGH: yes, but this wouldn't be the internet if people didn't misinterpret things |
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18:50.48 | JordiGH | gevaerts: Then we wouldn't have flamethreads! D: |
18:51.38 | kblin | of course then I can start another flame war about cultural imperialism because nazi comparisons are very much not approriate in my cultural background, and I feel like all the imperialists rub in their nazi-comparing culture right in my face ;) |
18:51.42 | pokoko222 | I see my proposal is submitted but I am thinking of asking the mentor if he can see it and everything is ok |
18:51.49 | gevaerts | JordiGH: it's how we avoid high heating bills! |
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18:51.52 | pokoko222 | i am panicing, what if it was not sent right and thoughts like that |
18:51.55 | pokoko222 | blah |
18:52.46 | JordiGH | kblin: Does it get uncivil? I stopped reading after the 10th post or so. |
18:52.57 | JordiGH | Did tempers rise? |
18:53.04 | JordiGH | Were rash decisions made? |
18:53.05 | Triskelios | pokoko222: if you can see it on Melange, so can your mentor |
18:53.27 | pokoko222 | Triskelios: yep it is there in "submited proposals" |
18:53.50 | pokoko222 | anyways, do they send the t-shirt right away if you are accepted? |
18:54.00 | pokoko222 | I want that t-shirt more than the money :D |
18:54.14 | kblin | pokoko222: nope, tshirt only after you pass the final eval |
18:54.28 | pokoko222 | which was august? |
18:54.32 | pokoko222 | oh boy... |
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18:55.12 | pokoko222 | they send money right away and not t-shirt, man, google needs to rethink it's philosophy about things :D |
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18:55.20 | dfighter | first your proposal also needs to be accepted |
18:55.22 | dfighter | :P |
18:55.27 | |Kev| | 19:54 < pokoko222> I want that t-shirt more than the money :D |
18:55.31 | |Kev| | No, I don't think they do. |
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18:56.19 | ajedwards | the t-shirt is awesome |
18:56.21 | carols | i'm quite happy with the priorities in gsoc as it stands. |
18:56.54 | pokoko222 | ajedwards: can I see it somewhere, the design... ? |
18:57.06 | carols | pokoko222: the design for what? |
18:57.06 | kblin | pokoko222: it's a big secret each year |
18:57.11 | pokoko222 | oh :D |
18:57.12 | ajedwards | google it for previous ones :) |
18:57.22 | kblin | ever since the design of the 2005 one leaked.. ;) |
18:57.25 | pokoko222 | I know the previous year one, but they change it |
18:57.42 | qballer | Triskelios: you from ASF? |
18:57.45 | gevaerts | I would bet the current logo is somehow worked into it |
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18:58.00 | Triskelios | qballer: nope, illumos |
18:58.03 | pokoko222 | gevaerts: google's new logo? |
18:58.04 | JordiGH | So, looks like plagiarism is this: http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_64.php |
18:58.19 | gevaerts | pokoko222: the 2012 gsoc logo |
18:58.21 | carols | i'm currently worried about slot allocations for orgs, i haven't thought about the tshirt yet. |
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18:58.34 | |Kev| | JordiGH: We really don't need that thread duplicated here. |
18:58.55 | JordiGH | |Kev|: I'll triplicate your ancestors. |
18:59.14 | pokoko222 | gevaerts: what is that logo, the flags? |
18:59.27 | gevaerts | nods |
18:59.35 | carols | pokoko222: the one at the top of melange right now. |
18:59.41 | carols | serves some tea |
19:00.02 | pokoko222 | awesome :D |
19:00.06 | gevaerts | Ah, good idea! |
19:00.11 | gevaerts | gets some tea |
19:00.50 | pokoko222 | I thought only non-tea people come here |
19:01.05 | meflin | mmm tea |
19:01.18 | gevaerts | Non-tea people are welcome too |
19:01.28 | pokoko222 | they are all infected now, run for your liveees |
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19:01.48 | pokoko222 | anyways most of you guys here are mentors? |
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19:01.55 | |Kev| | Several are. |
19:02.06 | pokoko222 | are there google people in here? |
19:02.10 | |Kev| | Yes, Carol. |
19:02.12 | kblin | some |
19:02.13 | pokoko222 | wow |
19:02.21 | carols | pokoko222: i'm neither a guy nor a mentor. |
19:02.32 | kblin | chris and cat come in here occasionally, too |
19:02.33 | pokoko222 | carols: you work in google? |
19:02.39 | carols | pokoko222: indeed i do. |
19:02.44 | pokoko222 | woooow :D |
19:02.51 | pokoko222 | it is my dream job |
19:02.54 | kblin | carols is a full-time cat herder |
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19:03.16 | kblin | and I don't know many other people who'd consider that their dream job ;) |
19:03.22 | ajedwards | bahaha |
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19:03.49 | kblin | glad carols does, of course. :) |
19:03.53 | pokoko222 | kblin: the google job not the cat herder one :D |
19:04.11 | |Kev| | It's a variation on the Peter principle. Everyone is promoted to their own level of cat herdiness. |
19:04.24 | kblin | hehe |
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19:04.27 | dfighter | pokoko222 there are many different jobs at companies, would you like to be the toilet cleaning lady at Google? |
19:04.39 | pokoko222 | I don't understand this cats and herds conversation :D |
19:04.47 | |radiy| | hi,guys |
19:04.58 | kblin | pokoko222: have you ever tried herding cats? |
19:05.01 | pokoko222 | dfighter: nope, I want machine learning job in google |
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19:05.06 | schumaml | dfighter: that's sanitation manager |
19:05.08 | |radiy| | who's a free now? |
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19:05.15 | carols | |radiy|: i'm free. |
19:05.17 | pokoko222 | how did cats get in the conversation, blaah |
19:05.18 | carols | how can i help? |
19:05.22 | |Kev| | pokoko222: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom |
19:05.26 | dfighter | schumaml oh yea sorry, my PC was off a bit |
19:05.28 | |Kev| | No, not the right one. |
19:05.38 | |Kev| | pokoko222: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herding_cats |
19:05.45 | |Kev| | Although that's a bit rubbish. |
19:06.05 | pokoko222 | oh those cats :D |
19:06.27 | pokoko222 | carols: you do something AI related in google? |
19:06.32 | carols | pokoko222: nope. |
19:06.33 | sfb | carols: Who do I talk to about a Melange problem? I can't seem to "wish to mentor" proposals. |
19:06.47 | pokoko222 | carols: at what age did you get the job, after masters or Phd? |
19:06.51 | carols | sfb: code.google.com/soc or melange-soc-dev@googlegroups.com |
19:07.06 | carols | pokoko222: i have a bachelor's, and i started working here when i was 21. |
19:07.09 | sfb | So skip the IRC channel and go straight to the Google Group? |
19:07.15 | carols | sfb: indeed |
19:07.18 | pokoko222 | carols: no way 21 :D |
19:07.22 | sfb | Okay, good. Thank you! |
19:07.26 | carols | yw :-) |
19:07.41 | dfighter | wonders who sfb wishes to mentor |
19:07.51 | carols | pokoko222: well, you're welcome to not believe me, but i have no reason to lie to you. doesn't really matter to me one way or the other though. but you asked. |
19:07.54 | kblin | sfb: oh, hang on |
19:08.08 | kblin | sfb: what proposals are you looking at? |
19:08.11 | pokoko222 | carols: no I meant it is really cool, not that I don't believe |
19:08.17 | carols | cool |
19:08.55 | dfighter | pokoko222 you do realize that carols is not an engineer tho, right? |
19:09.02 | pokoko222 | carols: just one last question and I won't bother you again, you applied with bachelors and I assume you presented to them some cool programming projects? |
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19:09.11 | pokoko222 | dfighter: hmm what you mean |
19:09.13 | carols | pokoko222: no, i didn't. |
19:09.21 | |Kev| | dfighter: I think the conversation will be more amusing if you don't reveal that :) |
19:09.31 | pokoko222 | haha what is carols then working on :D |
19:09.36 | carols | pokoko222: gsoc |
19:09.46 | pokoko222 | well that is not a google job :D |
19:09.49 | |Kev| | pokoko222: Carol is Lady GSoC. |
19:09.50 | kblin | pokoko222: she's the lady running this show |
19:09.57 | carols | pokoko222: i beg to differ. |
19:10.04 | dfighter | lol |
19:10.16 | kblin | if that's not a google job, you have a very weird definition of "google job" |
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19:10.28 | sfb | kblin: OpenNMS proposals. |
19:10.35 | carols | kblin: i think google jobs are only those belonging to the engineers. |
19:10.49 | pokoko222 | yeah I meant he works on some programming/engineering stuff |
19:10.49 | kblin | personally, I think anything that gives you an "@google.com" email address would qualify |
19:10.50 | carols | or so it would seem. |
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19:11.06 | carols | pokoko222: me? i'm a she. |
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19:11.09 | |Kev| | pokoko222: Are you familiar with the first rule of holes? |
19:11.19 | pokoko222 | carols: oh you are a girl? |
19:11.23 | carols | |Kev|: when you find yourself in one, stop digging. |
19:11.24 | gevaerts | hands pokoko222 a spade |
19:11.25 | pokoko222 | |Kev|: nope |
19:11.32 | |Kev| | pokoko222: ^ |
19:11.36 | carols | pokoko222: indeed i am. not that it matters one way or the other to anything we're discussing. |
19:11.48 | pokoko222 | ok I stop with this hole |
19:11.50 | kblin | |Kev|: you mean the "if you're in up to your neck, start digging" |
19:12.00 | pokoko222 | hahaha |
19:12.12 | gevaerts | kblin: a sensible idea! |
19:12.26 | pokoko222 | first cats, then holes, guys you talk about wierd things in here :D |
19:12.36 | kblin | gevaerts: well, there has to be an exit buried somewhere |
19:12.43 | carols | pokoko222: i could say the same about you saying i don't have a google job. |
19:12.52 | sfb | kblin: When I slide "Wish To Mentor" to 'Yes' it doesn't save it. |
19:13.04 | gevaerts | pokoko222: both of those are fairly common idioms |
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19:13.07 | pokoko222 | carols: well I meant you do programming, but you help out with gsoc administration ? |
19:13.08 | kblin | sfb: weird |
19:13.14 | kblin | sfb: did you hit "apply"? |
19:13.23 | Triskelios | pokoko222: she RUNS GSoC |
19:13.24 | JordiGH | Is it easy for me to see on which applications I've expressed interest in mentoring? |
19:13.25 | carols | pokoko222: help out? there's only one of me. i wish i had help :-P |
19:13.26 | pokoko222 | gevaerts: yes but english is not my first so... |
19:13.28 | |Kev| | pokoko222: Carol *is* GSoC. |
19:13.47 | |Kev| | Actually, I take that back, it sounds a bit freaky. |
19:13.59 | pokoko222 | we talk about Carol Smith? |
19:14.05 | Triskelios | pokoko222: Carol is the reason GSoC happens! |
19:14.05 | carols | pokoko222: yours truly. |
19:14.21 | schumaml | |Kev|: GladOS is Carol, too |
19:14.35 | kblin | Triskelios: "GSoC happens" sounds like a bumper sticker |
19:14.38 | pokoko222 | carols: I appologize for being dumb then :D |
19:14.41 | JordiGH | CarolOS |
19:14.46 | pokoko222 | wow Carol Smith is here who would say... |
19:14.48 | carols | pokoko222: it's fine. |
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19:14.57 | pokoko222 | carols: you won't beat me now? |
19:14.59 | carols | happens all the time, actually. |
19:15.18 | JordiGH | o.Ô |
19:15.22 | carols | pokoko222: beat you?let's keep this on topic, can we? |
19:15.23 | JordiGH | Beating happens all the time Ô.o |
19:15.26 | JordiGH | ? |
19:15.32 | klocatelli | lol |
19:15.35 | JordiGH | lol |
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19:15.37 | kblin | pokoko222: Personally I think carols is one of the most patient people in here |
19:15.46 | schumaml | will add questions like "Who is running GSoC?" to the next application template |
19:15.50 | pokoko222 | kblin: yeah I would have kicked myself too by now |
19:16.13 | Triskelios | schumaml: hahaha |
19:16.14 | kblin | nah, we rarely have to kick people in here |
19:16.37 | kblin | most of the time it's enough to just talk to them |
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19:17.13 | pokoko222 | well anyways I am watching carols video on youtube |
19:17.22 | kblin | besides, I'm afraid carols is pretty used to people not realizing that there are indeed women on the internet |
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19:17.48 | sfb | kblin: There is no "apply" just "assign" |
19:18.00 | kblin | does that do anything? :) |
19:18.11 | JordiGH | Oh, that's what's getting unduplicated. |
19:18.17 | JordiGH | Duplicate acceptances. |
19:18.18 | kblin | JordiGH: internets? |
19:18.23 | kblin | oh, that |
19:18.31 | sfb | kblin: Nope. It does nothing... |
19:18.33 | JordiGH | There must be a better word than "deduplicate"... |
19:18.50 | gevaerts | JordiGH: "simplify"? :) |
19:18.55 | JordiGH | Singularise? Resolve conflicts? |
19:19.01 | kblin | JordiGH: supercallifragilisticexpiallydocious? |
19:19.08 | JordiGH | What a wonderful word. |
19:19.08 | sfb | JordiGH: Remove-Duplicates. |
19:19.13 | |Kev| | Sbwriel. |
19:19.15 | sfb | JordiGH: It has a hyphen. It's still one word. |
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19:20.10 | kblin | I'm not convinced "singularise" is any less confusing than "deduplicate" |
19:20.47 | JordiGH | Consolidate? |
19:21.01 | kblin | but you don't consolidate slots |
19:21.22 | kblin | you drop a student to remove a duplicate acceptance |
19:21.28 | JordiGH | You don't deduplicate slots either. |
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19:21.38 | JordiGH | You deduplicate... eh... something... |
19:21.44 | kblin | just to find out that the next student also is accepted by two orgs |
19:22.04 | kblin | and then you repeat the process until you're all out of students |
19:22.06 | JordiGH | Apparently people used to have a problem with "disambiguate" too, as popularised by Wikipedia. |
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19:22.15 | kblin | uh, wait.. |
19:22.22 | kblin | until you're all out of duplicates |
19:22.30 | kblin | one of these in any case |
19:22.33 | JordiGH | Dupesmash. |
19:22.58 | kblin | sounds too much like "the incredible hulk" |
19:23.03 | JordiGH | Yeah. |
19:23.11 | JordiGH | HULK SMASH DUPES |
19:23.15 | JordiGH | That was intentional. |
19:23.20 | bunnelda | There are a surfeit of duplicates I'm sure. |
19:23.28 | kblin | and seeing how my dayjob is working on a software called antiSMASH, I know all the hulk jokes already |
19:23.41 | JordiGH | kblin: I get music jokes. :-( |
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19:25.19 | kblin | well, our first idea was "secondary metabolite analysis pipeline", but a quick google turned up that "SMAP" was the first winner of japanese idol |
19:26.03 | kblin | and a quick youtube check made sure we didn't want to share our search results with a boy grouo |
19:26.06 | kblin | *group |
19:26.12 | JordiGH | Ah, of course: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1100 |
19:26.57 | kblin | right |
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19:27.56 | kblin | even though I'd love to be able to pulish a software called TZATZIKI one day |
19:28.04 | kblin | publish, too |
19:28.13 | kblin | I can't type anymore, it seems |
19:28.34 | JordiGH | A software_ |
19:28.36 | JordiGH | ? |
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19:28.42 | JordiGH | One software, two softwares, many softwares? |
19:29.17 | kblin | yes |
19:29.21 | |Kev| | Well, a ware is singular, so it stands to reason that a soft ware would also be singular. |
19:29.53 | JordiGH | English cares not for your silly reasons: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/software#Noun |
19:29.55 | qballer | But you can say I have some software that does that for me. |
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19:30.02 | kblin | JordiGH: if it was many softwares, a name like GYROS would be more appropriate |
19:30.21 | JordiGH | i.e. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#uncountable |
19:30.32 | kblin | hang on, let me log in and fix that for you |
19:30.34 | |radiy| | anubody take i posiive response to proposal? |
19:30.55 | JordiGH | kblin: Edit war! |
19:31.25 | qballer | And I thought students go crazy during this time . . . |
19:31.40 | carols | !logs |
19:31.40 | gsocbot | carols: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
19:31.46 | Lennie | !next |
19:31.47 | gsocbot | Lennie: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
19:32.01 | |Kev| | qballer: GSoC is easier on the students than the mentos, I think. |
19:32.26 | kblin | qballer: sure, so as mentors, we need to get a head start ;) |
19:32.37 | qballer | I'm not sure about that, haven't been a mentor and I don't know if I'm GSoC student yet. |
19:32.51 | |Kev| | A number of people here have been both. |
19:33.02 | qballer | I know |
19:33.18 | |Kev| | I don't know how many of them would agree with me. |
19:33.24 | qballer | You guys already passed the "am I in" phase , as an Org. |
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19:33.29 | kblin | qballer: hm, both is stressful, I'd say, but as a student at least it's your "job" |
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19:34.06 | qballer | It's less about the Job part for being GSoC. more about the cool things you can do. |
19:34.20 | kblin | but you can do cool things without gsoc :) |
19:34.21 | qballer | at least for me. |
19:35.14 | |Kev| | qballer: The thing about mentors is that they're likely holding down a full time job *and* making their own contributions to their projects *and* mentoring/adminning. It could get quite tiring. In that case the "It's your job" as a student makes it less conflicting/pressured. |
19:35.18 | qballer | True, though opportunity lessens when you are a student as well. At least in code. |
19:36.13 | |Kev| | I'm not sure I follow that. |
19:36.20 | |Kev| | What opportunity is lessened by being a student? |
19:36.40 | kblin | the opportunity of being stressed out? ;) |
19:36.43 | qballer | Yea, but most mentors are proven programers, where us students will need to look for a job after GSoC and would like to do well on it. There is pressure here, trust me. |
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19:36.57 | kblin | qballer: I'm a student |
19:37.05 | kblin | not in gsoc, but in real life |
19:37.10 | qballer | Same here. |
19:37.16 | |Kev| | kblin: There is no 'real life' when you're a student :) |
19:37.21 | kblin | as in "the place where the pizza is coming from" |
19:37.33 | JordiGH | Then where is IRL? |
19:37.33 | kblin | there is, my pizza doesn't magically appear |
19:37.37 | |Kev| | And PhD students are the worst of the bunch. |
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19:37.55 | qballer | Why? |
19:38.07 | |Kev| | qballer: Because kblin's a PhD student :) |
19:38.12 | JordiGH | That's interesting, btw. I get the impression most of the students we get are undergrad. Do you get a lot of grad students doing GSoC? |
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19:38.34 | qballer | undergrad here. |
19:38.37 | |Kev| | JordiGH: Not disproportionately many, I'm just playing with kblin. |
19:38.47 | |Kev| | Although I was a grad when I did GSoC. |
19:38.52 | JordiGH | Entre broma y broma la verdad se asoma. |
19:38.59 | kblin | qballer: basically what I'm saying is that all the stress-out factors you're seeing as a gsoc student would also apply to at least some of the mentors |
19:39.03 | qballer | (If that is to refer to B.Sc and not M.A) |
19:39.07 | JordiGH | Between one joke and another, truth rears its head. |
19:39.49 | kblin | JordiGH: I did my first gsoc as my undergrad thesis project |
19:40.00 | |Kev| | JordiGH: No, just a joke between someone who's done it and someone who's doing it, in this case. |
19:40.11 | qballer | How was it kblin ? |
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19:40.49 | qballer | Did you have fun? Any specific trouble? Did you work on big projects before that? |
19:41.31 | kblin | qballer: I did have fun at times, I did have trouble at times, pretty much like any programming or lab project I've had since |
19:41.45 | kblin | and it was my first big project |
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19:42.40 | qballer | I worked on some projects before, not as a full time dev though. I have my final year project which is 3 people - Should be cool. |
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19:43.06 | kblin | so once I got over the shock that just because I had read some books on C programming, I couldn't code my way out of a paper bag, it was pretty nice |
19:43.36 | kblin | until I had to get my code accepted by the guy who owns the Wine repository |
19:43.45 | kblin | that was decidedly less fun |
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19:43.49 | qballer | Yea. I got that shock while I took sometime to try and contribute to Mozilla FF. |
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19:43.58 | kblin | pro tip: don't send people 6k line patches |
19:44.05 | kblin | nobody wants to read those |
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19:44.37 | qballer | If you are developing a new feature, it can take up some lines of code. |
19:45.04 | kblin | right |
19:45.14 | qballer | Someone needs to review, no? |
19:45.25 | kblin | but if you put said future into a single patch, good luck finding someone to look at it |
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19:45.51 | qballer | Oh, I broke it down in the proposal face Bi-Weekly patches. |
19:46.17 | dfighter | [2012-4-16 21:43] <@kblin> pro tip: don't send people 6k line patches << that's so true |
19:46.18 | qballer | phase* |
19:46.24 | dfighter | I've had people submit more |
19:46.35 | dfighter | mostly horribad style and even broken code |
19:46.46 | dfighter | then they wonder why it's barely touched after 2 years |
19:46.53 | dfighter | :P |
19:47.16 | qballer | define "horribad style" |
19:47.19 | kblin | qballer: my tip would be to send patches more frequently, but talk to your mentor about that |
19:47.44 | kblin | I'd do lots of small patches, each implementing one sensible, logical step |
19:47.46 | qballer | I will probably he has been really great. |
19:47.50 | |Kev| | kblin: I go for 'develop in a public repo' - we'll be giving commit access to swift-contrib for our students. |
19:48.03 | |Kev| | Mind, we'll give commit access to that repo to pretty much anyone :) |
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19:48.32 | qballer | |Kev|: sandbox? |
19:48.42 | dfighter | qballer horribad style = unreadable |
19:49.02 | kblin | |Kev|: right, worldforge is using github, so we'll ask students to work on there, too |
19:49.22 | |Kev| | qballer: Every time we push to master swift-contrib/master gets force reset to the same, but otherwise it's just a sandbox, yes. Contributors could walk all over each other's branches if they wanted, but they don't, of course. |
19:49.26 | kblin | |Kev|: and samba had students use a gitorious repo last year, that was pretty good, too |
19:49.31 | dfighter | kblin git and hg are blessing for FLOSS |
19:49.38 | dfighter | people can just fork and work in their own repo |
19:49.43 | dfighter | and then put in a pull request |
19:49.45 | |Kev| | dfighter: git and hg are, sure, but kblin? |
19:49.46 | dfighter | lovely <3 |
19:50.14 | dfighter | |Kev| kblin too ofc |
19:50.22 | |Kev| | Excellent. |
19:50.36 | dfighter | altough that wasn't what I meant to mean :P |
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19:50.48 | kblin | I'll put that in the next job application I send off ;) |
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19:51.09 | |Kev| | "kblin is a popular version control system, like Git and Mercurial." |
19:51.10 | dfighter | but then kblin is at wf, and wf is the umbrella for Ryzom where I sent my proposal |
19:51.18 | dfighter | and as the Ferengi rules of acquisitions state |
19:51.24 | dfighter | it's never too early to suck up to the boss! |
19:52.08 | qballer | I got to really understand git/SVN process to really understand how to create local repositories use branching etc.. |
19:52.31 | qballer | I will go and Google that. |
19:52.38 | kblin | :) |
19:53.09 | kblin | these days I even manage my git repos using a git repo |
19:53.15 | |Kev| | kblin: Doesn't everyone? :) |
19:53.35 | kblin | dunno, I didn't for quite some time |
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19:54.21 | thebolt | hi kblin et al |
19:54.24 | qballer | ~scratches head~ I use source-forge svn but the build processes I have assumes some paths my team and I agreed on, |
19:55.07 | kblin | hey thebolt |
19:55.12 | kblin | how's life? |
19:55.41 | thebolt | busy working.. back in sweden right now and company a bit on crunch-mode |
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19:56.20 | |Kev| | Evening thebolt. |
19:57.08 | kblin | thebolt: that explains the weird time for you |
19:57.11 | thebolt | then any sparetime i have is spent with fiance (she went with me) |
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20:08.39 | iKoda | !next |
20:08.40 | gsocbot | iKoda: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assingments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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23:31.40 | pokoko222 | does the student get net 5000$? |
23:31.49 | pokoko222 | or some part goes for tax and stuff maybe? |
23:32.23 | ojwb | pokoko222: it's likely to be taxable income in most places |
23:32.30 | meflin | they get .. taxes are there issue |
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23:33.21 | pokoko222 | so the student gets full 5000$? |
23:33.23 | Al_Da_Best | It does vary on your situation. For me, it wont be taxed as it's under my income limit, but it varies |
23:33.25 | ojwb | though there may be an allowance before you start getting taxed - e.g. in the UK it would fall below that level I think |
23:33.47 | Al_Da_Best | Yeah, UK you're fine (unless you have a job taking you up to/over the limit) |
23:33.51 | ojwb | pokoko222: google pay you the full amount (assuming you pass midterm and at the end) and it's up to you to pay taxes |
23:33.56 | Upthorn | the student gets gross $5000, for which they are responsible for paying any relevant taxes |
23:34.11 | ojwb | I think they actually but a little more on the card, to cover withdrawal fees |
23:34.17 | ojwb | s/but/put |
23:34.34 | carlasouza | its $5500 |
23:34.39 | pokoko222 | that depends on the country you are from or only on the bank you use? |
23:34.46 | Upthorn | but $500 goes to mentors |
23:34.46 | pokoko222 | carlasouza: no 500$ goes to the mentor |
23:34.53 | carlasouza | pokoko222: oh thats true |
23:34.54 | Al_Da_Best | Depends on the country |
23:34.55 | ojwb | no, $500 goes to the *org* |
23:34.57 | meflin | no $500 goes to the mentoring org |
23:35.10 | ojwb | who may pass it on to the mentors, but aren't obliged to |
23:35.15 | pokoko222 | why would it depend on the country I dont get it |
23:35.18 | meflin | I have always received $0 for mentoring |
23:35.22 | Al_Da_Best | Taxes would, I mean |
23:35.27 | agliodbs | ojwb: yeah, we usually use that money to fund student travel |
23:35.46 | pokoko222 | it is a bank transfer, I dont see why it would depend on country |
23:35.56 | ojwb | we used it to cover the short fall in flight costs for the mentor summit, and to hold a documentation sprint |
23:35.57 | pokoko222 | well I will use the money for school so that is why I ask... |
23:36.14 | ojwb | pokoko222: it's not a bank transfer, it's a preloaded card |
23:36.26 | ojwb | like a prepay visa or mastercard |
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23:36.35 | pokoko222 | oh |
23:36.35 | Upthorn | additionally, different countries have different regulations for bank transfers |
23:36.53 | pokoko222 | ok so in worst case how much money do people lose out of the 5000$? |
23:37.05 | ojwb | pokoko222: that entirely depends on you local tax system |
23:37.08 | pokoko222 | some examples you heard of... |
23:37.08 | Upthorn | for instance, there is a type of transfer available only between two US bank accounts |
23:37.18 | pokoko222 | ojwb: I have no idea how it works actually |
23:37.44 | Upthorn | pokoko222: it depends on how you withdraw the funds and your local tax codes |
23:38.01 | pokoko222 | ok guys, so worst case scenario is? |
23:38.06 | Upthorn | the prepaid card likely has a fee for cash withdrawal |
23:38.07 | pokoko222 | lose maybe 100$ |
23:38.28 | pokoko222 | yeah but it should cost much I guess |
23:38.40 | pokoko222 | not cost much* |
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23:39.00 | dfighter | 100$ would be a very low income tax |
23:39.01 | Catfish_Man | pokoko222: well, the highest marginal income tax bracket in the US at least is 35%, so that would be much more than $100 |
23:39.05 | Upthorn | there is no worst case, if you make 2000 withdrawals of $0.01 you'll lose basically all of the money to withdrawal fees |
23:39.25 | Lorehead | I suspect very few college students are in the top marginal tax bracket. :) |
23:39.27 | Upthorn | but that would be stupid |
23:39.28 | Fare_ | pokoko222: You are from Macedonia? |
23:39.37 | Catfish_Man | Lorehead: agreed |
23:39.45 | pokoko222 | Fare_ yes |
23:40.36 | pokoko222 | wow 35 % is a lot |
23:40.40 | Lorehead | For what it's worth, when I got paid in '08, I took out the money through a balance transfer and paid self-employment tax and state income tax. I believe my net federal income tax liability was $0. |
23:40.44 | pokoko222 | just for money transfer, 35 % wholy ... |
23:41.00 | ojwb | pokoko222: 35% is income tax |
23:41.09 | ojwb | money transfer is usually a few $ |
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23:41.20 | pokoko222 | income as if you are employed? |
23:41.30 | Upthorn | yes. |
23:41.34 | pokoko222 | ah no worry then |
23:41.35 | ojwb | and i believe google actually pay you something like $505 not $500 for the first payment, etc |
23:41.36 | pokoko222 | I am not |
23:41.40 | dfighter | lol |
23:41.51 | ojwb | pokoko222: if you are accepted into gsoc, technically you are... |
23:41.53 | dfighter | pokoko222 if you do gsoc you are employed by Google |
23:41.57 | pokoko222 | so being not employed I would then waste couple of bucks for the money transfer then |
23:42.03 | dfighter | as an outside contractor |
23:42.05 | Upthorn | well your government is likely to consider your summer of code internship as employment |
23:42.37 | pokoko222 | oh boy, I thought you guys mean employed by another company |
23:42.42 | Lorehead | The last time I did it, we were considered self-employed in the U.S. (for tax purposes). |
23:43.02 | pokoko222 | so I would give away 30% or so of the money after all |
23:43.13 | Upthorn | it depends on your local laws |
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23:43.24 | Upthorn | we do not know where you live, so we do not know what your taxes would be |
23:43.27 | Lorehead | But you should really ask a tax professional these questions. |
23:43.35 | Catfish_Man | pokoko222: you only have a 35% income tax rate if you a) live in the united states, and b) make >$350,000/year |
23:43.48 | pokoko222 | Catfish_Man: I dont |
23:43.54 | Upthorn | Catfish_Man: well other countries have higher tax rates than the US |
23:44.01 | Upthorn | frequentlyt |
23:44.01 | Catfish_Man | pokoko222: are you intentionally missing my point, or are you just not getting it? |
23:44.05 | Fare_ | pokoko222: Just search there http://www.ujp.gov.mk/ |
23:44.16 | Catfish_Man | pokoko222: I'm attempting to explain that you need to investigate your country's tax laws in order to calculate this and we can't help you |
23:44.32 | meflin | I can't even help you if you lived in my country :) |
23:44.42 | pokoko222 | Fare_ search for what? :) |
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23:44.59 | Upthorn | taxes |
23:44.59 | Fare_ | what you need, this is document from you govermont (UPRAVNA PRIHODA) |
23:45.17 | Fare_ | I am from Serbia, i just use google and found this... |
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23:46.16 | meflin | hmm how many mentors are there/ where there last year ? |
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23:48.22 | thgil | !stats |
23:48.22 | gsocbot | thgil: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
23:48.30 | Fare_ | pokoko222: http://www.ujp.gov.mk/files/attachment/0000/0339/Personal_Income_Tax_Law_revised_version_139_09.pdf try this |
23:49.00 | meflin | well what I think I am realy after is how large is the -mentors email list |
23:49.02 | pokoko222 | thanks :) Fare_ wow there is lots to read |
23:49.18 | Lorehead | GSOC says that there were around 1,100 students last year, so there were probably almost that number of mentors? |
23:49.19 | Fare_ | just skip some parts... |
23:49.31 | Lorehead | Also, I don't think they kick off mentors from previous years. :) |
23:49.40 | meflin | email list wise I think that would mean at least double |
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23:49.58 | Mek | many organizations try to keep a 2:1 mentors-students ratio (so two mentors per student) |
23:50.12 | meflin | also admins, mentors who dont end up with slots bla bla |
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23:50.45 | Lorehead | Also, more students this year. |
23:50.55 | Upthorn | pokoko222: people in your own country are more likely to be able to help you than we are |
23:51.15 | Upthorn | if you have difficulty understanding that document |
23:51.56 | meflin | so probably in the 3K range for the list |
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23:54.21 | ojwb | meflin: 5081 |
23:54.28 | meflin | ooo |
23:54.38 | meflin | this year or last? |
23:56.06 | ojwb | meflin: subscribed to the mentor list right now |
23:56.11 | ojwb | well, a minute ago |
23:56.12 | meflin | ah thanks :) |
23:56.28 | meflin | now I need to put my thought into a happy place and write a faq item :) |
23:56.29 | ojwb | though I'm on twice... |
23:58.38 | pokoko222 | someone is an ex-gsoc student? :) |
23:58.39 | meflin | then sit on it pass it around and such :) |
23:59.20 | meflin | pokoko222: I know of some .. if its still the tax thing the locality you live in is the most important thing |