| 00:00.06 | klocatelli | !email | spectie |
| 00:00.07 | gsocbot | spectie: "email" is try !emails instead |
| 00:00.14 | spectie | takk |
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| 00:09.42 | jcalvinowens | Gah. Apparently my university blocks outgoing IRC connections - how silly is that? |
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| 00:11.21 | klocatelli | very |
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| 00:13.31 | meflin | not as bad as blocking outbound ssh and alowing telnet ( true story ) |
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| 00:15.33 | mobilegeek2011 | any issues with MIT proposals submitted through application template link NOT showing up on dashboard?? |
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| 00:16.07 | jcalvinowens | Actually, the only building here that blocks outbound SSH is the building where all the programming classes are taught... lol. |
| 00:16.36 | natsurou | jcalvinowens : mine blocks every connection that isn't over port 80 |
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| 00:18.42 | garyB | #jcalvinowens Starbucks |
| 00:18.43 | mobilegeek2011 | submitted my proposal via MIT's application template link from GSoC site while LOGGED IN on 4-5 and my proposal is not showing?? I saw all errors re:emails and changes to dashboard any reports of other students still not seeing proposals in their dashboard? |
| 00:18.44 | natsurou | the ieee university branch had to pass many bureaucratic processes in order to be able to access FTP |
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| 00:19.20 | jcalvinowens | natsurou: Even FTP? Geez. |
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| 00:20.35 | meflin | mobilegeek2011 best to bring this to your mentor and or org admin . if there is some sofware issue they can help |
| 00:20.37 | natsurou | well, in the end we implemented a fake ftp server |
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| 00:20.57 | natsurou | that now works as a ssh tunel |
| 00:21.48 | jcalvinowens | Yeah. I have a server elsewhere that runs SSH on port 443 - I have yet to find a network *that* doesn't work on... |
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| 00:23.47 | mobilegeek2011 | @meflin ok thanks have sent email to them and also in Groups Carol has cc'd melange just making me very nervous |
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| 00:24.31 | meflin | if its a bug it will be fixed :) |
| 00:24.45 | meflin | have some tea |
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| 00:36.51 | brainless | hi |
| 00:37.03 | brainless | !log |
| 00:37.04 | gsocbot | brainless: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 00:37.11 | robbyoconnor | !logs |
| 00:37.11 | gsocbot | robbyoconnor: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 00:37.43 | brainless | robbyoconnor: hi |
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| 00:39.14 | brainless | ukai: hi |
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| 00:42.42 | AlienHoboken | I got three emails from no-reply@google-melange.appspotmail.com with the subject "Thank you for applying to Google Summer of Code 2012" and body "None", what does that mean?... |
| 00:43.23 | meflin | !email | AlienHoboken |
| 00:43.23 | gsocbot | AlienHoboken: "email" is try !emails instead |
| 00:43.29 | meflin | !emails | AlienHoboken |
| 00:43.29 | gsocbot | AlienHoboken: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 00:43.40 | meflin | ie .. a bug .. means nothing |
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| 00:44.12 | AlienHoboken | Ah, thanks. |
| 00:44.18 | AlienHoboken | I was just confused. |
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| 00:45.01 | AlienHoboken | I guess a lot of people have been dropping in with that question. |
| 00:45.12 | meflin | a few :) |
| 00:45.19 | klocatelli | heh |
| 00:45.25 | AlienHoboken | They bothered to make a command to handle it. haha |
| 00:46.03 | AlienHoboken | Anyways, gotta run. Thanks meflin. |
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| 00:57.50 | MatthewWilkes | I missed all the fun today, huh? |
| 00:59.52 | Al_Da_Best | Sure did |
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| 01:00.12 | atuljangra | hey all |
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| 01:00.32 | Al_Da_Best | Morning |
| 01:00.47 | atuljangra | If a student is selected in two organisations, then what is the process of choosing the prganisation? |
| 01:00.55 | atuljangra | *organisation |
| 01:01.03 | MatthewWilkes | atuljangra: Are you a student or an org? |
| 01:01.22 | atuljangra | student |
| 01:02.00 | MatthewWilkes | atuljangra: If you have a preference email that org and say "Btw, I also applied to <otherorg>, if you decide to accept me and I show up as a duplicate you're my first choice" |
| 01:02.32 | ojwb | do it soon though |
| 01:03.05 | MatthewWilkes | Orgs will try and take your preferences into account, but it's quite delicate, they can't tell you if they're planning to accept you, and they might not know you're a duplicate until literally minutes before having to decide |
| 01:03.32 | atuljangra | If someone is accepted in two organisation, then I would have got the mail from organisation till now, cos matching deadline is almost here. |
| 01:03.43 | MatthewWilkes | atuljangra: They have no obligation to email you |
| 01:03.57 | MatthewWilkes | if you want to express a preference you must email them |
| 01:04.12 | MatthewWilkes | some will choose to email you but it's by no means guaranteed |
| 01:04.14 | atuljangra | Okay. |
| 01:04.22 | ojwb | ultimately, it is assumed that you only applied for projects you'd be happy to do |
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| 01:04.51 | atuljangra | ojwb: yes, I have applied for those courses only. |
| 01:05.02 | MatthewWilkes | indeed, and even if there is a duplicate they might choose to go against your stated preferences |
| 01:05.08 | ojwb | so if one org has a lot of similarly good alternative students and the other doesn't, they will tend to decide on that basis |
| 01:05.40 | MatthewWilkes | for example, if your second choice org has you as their top rated proposal, and your first choice org has you as their 10th, they might decide between them that it's more important for you to go with your 2nd choice |
| 01:05.50 | MatthewWilkes | indeed |
| 01:06.14 | atuljangra | Okay. I am feeling insecurity right now. :( |
| 01:06.21 | atuljangra | hoping to get through in GSoC |
| 01:08.42 | MatthewWilkes | atuljangra: no reason to feel insecure, you're just asking a hypothetical question about an edge case, most students aren't duplicates, and even the ones that are don't always get to choose |
| 01:09.16 | atuljangra | MatthewWilkes: Agreed. Thanks |
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| 01:18.46 | atuljangra | how many students are going to get selected this year? |
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| 01:20.01 | NhanTDN | atuljangra: They will announce soon. |
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| 01:20.26 | ojwb | my guess would be slightly up on last year |
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| 01:20.53 | atuljangra | last year it was 1200 i guess? |
| 01:20.56 | ojwb | based on previous years |
| 01:20.59 | ojwb | 1126 IIRC |
| 01:21.00 | Al_Da_Best | !numapps |
| 01:21.00 | gsocbot | Al_Da_Best: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 01:21.06 | Al_Da_Best | Close :P |
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| 01:21.19 | ojwb | a mixture of the last two years there |
| 01:21.34 | Al_Da_Best | Probably in the region 1150-1200 seems reasonable |
| 01:21.40 | atuljangra | hmmm,, |
| 01:22.32 | JakeDust | Al_Da_Best: is this an estimative of the number of slots in this year? |
| 01:22.48 | Al_Da_Best | That would be my guess. That is nothing official in the slightest |
| 01:22.54 | lolfrenz | avg proposals per user 1.57 :) |
| 01:24.30 | ojwb | it's really not worth sending in 0.57 of a proposal |
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| 01:26.19 | JakeDust | I almost sent 0.57 of a proposal, but a sudden bout of consciousness took hold of me and wiped the idea from my mind :) |
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| 03:01.23 | tomprince | Can mentors be signed up after the 7UTC deadline? |
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| 03:01.52 | tomprince | (This is for an additional mentor, not the one required for acceptance) |
| 03:02.42 | ojwb | tomprince: in the past you could sign a new one up at any point I believe |
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| 03:02.59 | tomprince | thanks |
| 03:03.26 | ojwb | there will have to be some way to I'd think, otherwise you couldn't replace a mentor who becomes unavailable |
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| 03:10.39 | savy2020 | !logs |
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| 04:20.50 | Ford_Prefect | Is the dedup meeting to be held here? |
| 04:21.26 | demosdemon | Ford_Prefect: yes |
| 04:22.27 | Ford_Prefect | demosdemon: cool, thanks |
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| 04:45.20 | Domiiii | I just got this weird email from google-melange that said "Congratulations!" in the title but had no contact |
| 04:45.22 | Domiiii | content** |
| 04:45.32 | demosdemon | !emails | Domiiii |
| 04:45.33 | gsocbot | Domiiii: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 04:47.21 | Domiiii | :) |
| 04:50.53 | dfighter | quite some people got those lately |
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| 05:04.11 | vcc-yangyan | Hi all, I have a question, so the students will know the result on 20, or 23? |
| 05:04.38 | demosdemon | 23rd at 19:00 UTC |
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| 05:05.56 | vcc-yangyan | I see, thanks! seems 20 is for the mentors |
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| 05:52.35 | mesutcang | !next |
| 05:52.36 | gsocbot | mesutcang: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 07:02.32 | codercube | !numsapp |
| 07:02.37 | codercube | !numapp |
| 07:02.38 | gsocbot | codercube: "numapp" is see !numapps |
| 07:02.42 | codercube | !numapps |
| 07:02.43 | gsocbot | codercube: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 07:04.30 | openimageio | What was the number of slots allocated this year, do you know? |
| 07:04.38 | codercube | !numslots |
| 07:05.02 | |Kev| | openimageio: That number won't be final until the students are decided. |
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| 07:06.08 | bretonium | it's 7:00 UTC, right? |
| 07:06.12 | openimageio | Sure, but I mean how many have been provisionally offered to all the orgs? |
| 07:06.24 | |Kev| | Just gone, yes. |
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| 07:15.04 | God___ | any Outercurve mentor present here |
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| 07:15.52 | |Kev| | !anyone | God___ |
| 07:15.53 | gsocbot | God___: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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| 07:16.29 | God___ | hmmm ok |
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| 07:21.23 | navap | Why does the bot start its messages with "is"? |
| 07:21.57 | |Kev| | Because it's a factoid script. |
| 07:21.59 | weltall | i think they use the plugin which acts as a dictionary of keywords |
| 07:22.30 | hsr | infobot |
| 07:23.13 | natsurou | !is |
| 07:23.24 | |Kev| | !botabuse | natsurou |
| 07:23.25 | gsocbot | natsurou: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
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| 07:24.01 | natsurou | ok ._. |
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| 07:59.18 | nickbarnesccf | question: where in the Melange UI are the templates for an org's accept/reject emails to students? |
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| 07:59.59 | nickbarnesccf | forget it:I found it. |
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| 08:01.22 | ChrisCTX | so... |
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| 08:01.40 | ChrisCTX | any suggestions for what to do? can't really sleep from the excitement |
| 08:02.44 | demosdemon | Well, today is 4/20. |
| 08:03.02 | natsurou | there's still 3 days, right? |
| 08:03.07 | natsurou | I mean |
| 08:03.19 | natsurou | the mentors are already matched |
| 08:03.31 | natsurou | but they will publish on 23 |
| 08:03.35 | natsurou | !next |
| 08:03.36 | gsocbot | natsurou: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 08:04.44 | jikr | Where is the deduplication meeting going to happen? On this channel? |
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| 08:05.24 | demosdemon | jikr: yes |
| 08:07.02 | jikr | thanks |
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| 08:11.22 | aadi_025 | hi |
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| 08:11.58 | nickbarnesccf | jikr: from what I remember from last year, the dedupe meeting is Very Very Long and Really Quite Dull. |
| 08:12.40 | nickbarnesccf | (and the admins keep a tight leash on the channel, so there's no chit-chat). |
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| 08:13.07 | ojwb | some year's it is a non-event |
| 08:13.12 | ojwb | s/'// |
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| 08:13.42 | ojwb | not sure about last year - i think it was a non-event for us |
| 08:13.55 | chetan_ | and students are free to observe? |
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| 08:14.16 | ojwb | yes, but typically everyone is devoiced by default |
| 08:14.20 | ojwb | so you can't say anything |
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| 08:15.10 | chetan_ | Ok that makes sense, but in the student needs to consulted? |
| 08:15.16 | chetan_ | in case* |
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| 08:15.35 | halo | !log |
| 08:15.35 | gsocbot | halo: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 08:15.37 | halo | !logs |
| 08:15.37 | gsocbot | halo: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 08:15.57 | aadi_025 | hi |
| 08:16.44 | nickbarnesccf | aadi_025: hi. |
| 08:16.49 | ojwb | chetan_: if you've applied to more than one org and have a preference, it's better to email the admin of the org you prefer now |
| 08:16.56 | aadi_025 | how's doing ? |
| 08:17.07 | ojwb | that will make the meeting smoother |
| 08:17.16 | aadi_025 | how to be mentr |
| 08:17.19 | aadi_025 | mentor ? |
| 08:17.23 | jikr | \whoami |
| 08:17.41 | chetan_ | ojwb: No issues, I have two applications in the same organisation. Was curious about the process |
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| 08:17.57 | ojwb | well, definitely just tell them if they haven't asked already |
| 08:18.01 | nickbarnesccf | aadi_025: choose an organisation, go to their page, and click on 'apply to be a mentor'. Except you are very probably too late this year. |
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| 08:18.09 | ojwb | but if it is the same org, it's not going to reach the dedup meeting |
| 08:18.22 | dsathe | aadi_025: isn;t it a bit late ? |
| 08:18.54 | chetan_ | ojwb: Ok that would be decided between the student and the organisation |
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| 08:19.05 | ojwb | chetan_: yes |
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| 08:20.14 | nickbarnesccf | aadi_025: note that you will have to register as a melange user, and that if you apply out of the blue to some organisation which has never interacted with you, you will almost certainly be wasting your time and theirs. |
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| 08:22.19 | nickbarnesccf | aadi_025: if you want to get involved with open source, Just Do It. Pick an open source project, preferably one which you are already using. Fetch the code, learn to build it, start interacting with the community by email and IRC, write stuff for the wiki, follow the defect tracker, start fixing bugs. |
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| 08:30.56 | aadi_025 | is any accepted mentor list will be published on google-melange ? |
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| 08:37.34 | umashankar | Does yesterday email displayed information c |
| 08:37.45 | umashankar | Early |
| 08:37.50 | ojwb | !email | umashankar |
| 08:37.51 | gsocbot | umashankar: "email" is try !emails instead |
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| 08:37.55 | ojwb | !emails | umashankar |
| 08:37.55 | gsocbot | umashankar: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
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| 09:00.05 | gevaerts | nickbarnesccf: it suits you! |
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| 09:07.38 | himsin | !logs |
| 09:07.38 | gsocbot | himsin: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 09:11.09 | v1z | !next |
| 09:11.10 | gsocbot | v1z: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 09:16.52 | ruhao_ | !next |
| 09:16.53 | gsocbot | ruhao_: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 09:17.02 | ruhao_ | !log |
| 09:17.02 | gsocbot | ruhao_: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
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| 09:17.13 | ruhao_ | !logs |
| 09:17.14 | gsocbot | ruhao_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 09:19.57 | azharu92 | msg ana hi |
| 09:20.06 | dream000 | !logs |
| 09:20.06 | climatecode|nb | Hmm, that seems to have worked. |
| 09:20.06 | gsocbot | dream000: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 09:20.53 | climatecode|nb | why do anarchists drink herbal tea? |
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| 09:21.29 | azharu92 | how the hell would I know |
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| 09:22.52 | climatecode|nb | because Proper Tea is Theft. |
| 09:23.08 | climatecode|nb | Thank you, thank you. I'm here all week. Tip your waiters. |
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| 09:28.32 | kai | climatecode|nb: that one should only be told if there's a drummer around to give you a rimshot |
| 09:28.38 | azharu92 | Is their any student applied for gsoc 2012 and got random mail from gsoc-team |
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| 09:28.55 | kai | !email | azharu92 |
| 09:28.56 | gsocbot | azharu92: "email" is try !emails instead |
| 09:28.59 | kai | !emails | azharu92 |
| 09:28.59 | gsocbot | azharu92: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
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| 09:59.37 | Stepan777 | !num-apps |
| 09:59.49 | gevaerts | !numapps | Stepan777 |
| 09:59.49 | gsocbot | Stepan777: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 10:00.03 | Stepan777 | thanks |
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| 10:13.30 | Stepan777 | I'm just curious, why number of accepted projects in melange is less then displayed in !numapps? http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2011 |
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| 10:16.21 | bretonium | some orgs haven't filled in their data I guess |
| 10:16.53 | |Kev| | Stepan777: do those include failed projects? |
| 10:17.38 | Stepan777 | |Kev|: i don't know, melange says it is accepted projects |
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| 10:25.05 | schumaml | the link you posted is for 2011 |
| 10:25.27 | ojwb | schumaml: no projects have been accepted yet this year... |
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| 10:26.25 | cssaheel | hello all |
| 10:27.15 | schumaml | !numapps |
| 10:27.16 | gsocbot | schumaml: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 10:27.25 | ojwb | |Kev|: the number there (988) is about right for only those who passed |
| 10:27.32 | cssaheel | what if i commented wrongly on my proposal how could i edit or delete the comment? |
| 10:27.37 | ojwb | it would make the passrate 88.5% |
| 10:27.52 | Stepan777 | cssaheel: it is impossible |
| 10:27.52 | ojwb | cssaheel: you can't - just add another comment to correct it |
| 10:28.03 | cssaheel | oh |
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| 10:28.10 | tinkujiiya | hello |
| 10:28.18 | cssaheel | that is bad to hear |
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| 10:29.29 | tinkujiiya | what is bad to hear |
| 10:30.01 | cssaheel | that you could not edit or delete your comments on a proposal |
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| 10:30.38 | tinkujiiya | yea |
| 10:30.47 | tinkujiiya | for which org u applied |
| 10:30.48 | tinkujiiya | ? |
| 10:31.34 | Stepan777 | !edit |
| 10:31.35 | gsocbot | Stepan777: "edit" is Students can edit proposals up until the application deadline. Mentors can allow students to edit proposals on a case-by-case basis after the deadline. Note that comments on proposals can _not_ be edited after submitting. |
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| 10:33.18 | tinkujiiya | woorldforge |
| 10:33.51 | tinkujiiya | anyone from ember?? |
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| 10:34.14 | climatecode|nb | !anyone | tinkujiiya |
| 10:34.14 | gsocbot | tinkujiiya: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 10:34.32 | tinkujiiya | any student |
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| 10:37.57 | ojwb | tinkujiiya: you seem to ask that everyday, and never find anyone |
| 10:38.15 | ojwb | even if you are looking for students applying to an org, the org's channels are a better bet than here |
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| 10:38.49 | tinkujiiya | hmm... on organisation channel no one replies... |
| 10:39.00 | thepankaj | Hey, I am new over here.... |
| 10:39.03 | guifre | !logs |
| 10:39.04 | gsocbot | guifre: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 10:39.13 | yashshah_ | Jasdf: You applying for gsoc this year? |
| 10:39.14 | myth17 | cool nick tinkujiiya |
| 10:39.24 | thepankaj | today's meeting is going to be discussed over here???? |
| 10:39.37 | Jasdf | yashshah_: no |
| 10:39.39 | thepankaj | at 17 UTC |
| 10:40.19 | LekS_By | And we can see evening discusion or will be disconnected from #gsoc chan |
| 10:40.20 | ojwb | tinkujiiya: well, the only people I've seen reply here are telling you to it's not the best place to ask |
| 10:40.37 | ojwb | 19 UTC |
| 10:40.44 | LekS_By | ?? This is a question |
| 10:41.05 | thepankaj | @19 UTC over here??? |
| 10:41.17 | ojwb | yes, but it's likely to be very dull |
| 10:41.26 | thepankaj | any reasons?? |
| 10:41.27 | ojwb | most duplicates get quietly resolved before then |
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| 10:41.41 | LekS_By | aah, thx |
| 10:41.48 | thepankaj | do we get to know if we are accepted or what??? |
| 10:41.53 | thepankaj | today |
| 10:41.54 | ojwb | because orgs have learned that it's easier to resolve in advance when you have time to discuss, rather than a the meeting with a few seconds notice |
| 10:41.59 | ojwb | no, 23rd |
| 10:42.03 | ojwb | see the timeline |
| 10:42.15 | thepankaj | No, I mean by looking at the discussion |
| 10:42.22 | myth17 | why the three days gap between dupliacy resolution and final results? :) |
| 10:42.25 | ojwb | it's unlikely |
| 10:42.26 | thepankaj | will I be getting any idea |
| 10:42.27 | thepankaj | ? |
| 10:42.37 | Al_Da_Best | Most probably not. |
| 10:42.40 | ojwb | myth17: to resolve any remaining issues |
| 10:42.52 | ojwb | delaying the announcement would cause a lot of clamouring |
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| 10:43.02 | ojwb | so there's a few days spare inc ase |
| 10:43.15 | myth17 | hmmm |
| 10:43.31 | ojwb | thepankaj: if you are accepted by more than one org and if those orgs haven't resolved it already, then you may get some idea |
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| 10:43.53 | ojwb | but it's typically a handful to resolve out of 3000+ students who applie |
| 10:43.55 | ojwb | applied |
| 10:44.02 | thepankaj | i agree |
| 10:44.09 | thepankaj | but i'll still be here |
| 10:44.41 | nbafna | or you check the chat log tomorrow? |
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| 10:44.53 | scorche | many times, students who are accepted to more than one org already know that - as the orgs will often try to resolve the dup before the meeting |
| 10:45.14 | scorche | it isnt that useful for students to watch the de-dup meeting, but tons do any way for some odd reason... |
| 10:45.17 | ojwb | well, we're supposed to ask "if you were accepted by us and org X, which would you prefer" |
| 10:45.21 | ojwb | but it's a bit of a hint |
| 10:45.44 | scorche | yeah - and it isnt like there is an established way that all orgs do it |
| 10:46.15 | ojwb | well, those that listen to what carol says should... |
| 10:46.29 | codercube | what's the time of announcement on Monday? |
| 10:47.06 | nbafna | ojwb: student who has been asked "if you were accepted by us and org X, which would you prefer" has been picked by multiple orgs? |
| 10:47.26 | thepankaj | what's the time of announcement on Monday? |
| 10:47.34 | scorche | just dont worry about it and wait a couple of days ;) |
| 10:47.40 | nbafna | 17:00 UTC. |
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| 10:47.48 | ojwb | nbafna: there are no guarantees until you see the result on 23rd, whatever you think you might know |
| 10:48.09 | scorche | codercube: thepankaj: go look at the timeline |
| 10:48.10 | ojwb | if you're asked that, then it's probably quite likely that two orgs are at least seriously considering you |
| 10:48.27 | codercube | scorche : it differs on GSOC website and in google calendar |
| 10:48.47 | scorche | does it really matter down to the hour? - you will get an email |
| 10:48.49 | scorche | relax ;) |
| 10:48.51 | ojwb | i'd believe the timeline below the calendar |
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| 10:49.09 | ojwb | it's far too easy to end up with the wrong timezone in google calendar it seems |
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| 10:56.33 | schumaml | there's not even a dedicated "keep this calendar in utc" setting for google clendars |
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| 10:58.12 | Phils_ | Anyone else get an email 18 hours ago with subject "Congratulations!" but no message body...? |
| 10:58.20 | schumaml | !emails |
| 10:58.21 | gsocbot | schumaml: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 10:59.44 | TicTac | Thanks |
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| 11:01.44 | iwantOutercurve | hello any Outecurve guy here |
| 11:01.45 | iwantOutercurve | ? |
| 11:02.00 | iwantOutercurve | !email |
| 11:02.00 | gsocbot | iwantOutercurve: "email" is try !emails instead |
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| 11:02.07 | iwantOutercurve | !help |
| 11:02.08 | gsocbot | iwantOutercurve: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 11:02.53 | selecta | Test |
| 11:03.10 | ojwb | !anyone | iwantOutercurve |
| 11:03.10 | gsocbot | iwantOutercurve: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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| 11:04.19 | codercube | can anyone write an example of how to use whatis command with the bot? |
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| 11:13.00 | vcc-yangyan | codercube: http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot |
| 11:13.27 | codercube | vcc-yangyan : thanks |
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| 11:21.14 | qballer | !email |
| 11:21.14 | gsocbot | qballer: "email" is try !emails instead |
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| 11:21.22 | qballer | !emails |
| 11:21.22 | gsocbot | qballer: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
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| 11:22.02 | nbafna | !ligs |
| 11:22.05 | nbafna | !logs |
| 11:22.05 | gsocbot | nbafna: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 11:53.15 | gene_ | any stats information regarding this GSoC? |
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| 11:54.48 | gene_ | anyone here? |
| 11:54.49 | climatecode|nb | !numapps | gene_ |
| 11:54.50 | gsocbot | gene_: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 11:56.01 | climatecode|nb | (and yes, it is quiet: I hypothesize that Americans are in bed, Europeans are at lunch, and Asians are enjoying their weekend). |
| 11:56.13 | climatecode|nb | goes to lunch. |
| 11:56.20 | gene_ | can i get information regarding number of slots in a particular org for this year 2012. |
| 11:57.30 | sourabh0612 | gene_: you can ask the respective org, the list is not officially out |
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| 12:08.31 | sarafnikit | !next |
| 12:08.32 | gsocbot | sarafnikit: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 12:13.43 | TedTedTedTed | hi everyone |
| 12:14.43 | TedTedTedTed | I just received two e-mails without any content |
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| 12:15.22 | TedTedTedTed | The titles are "Thank you for applying to Google Summer of Code 2012" and "Congratulations !" |
| 12:15.27 | gevaerts | !emails | TedTedTedTed |
| 12:15.27 | gsocbot | TedTedTedTed: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
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| 12:16.03 | TedTedTedTed | gevaerts: okay, thank you very much |
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| 13:07.33 | climatecode|nb | calm before the storm? |
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| 13:09.53 | aghisla | everyone checks emails/ |
| 13:09.56 | aghisla | . |
| 13:10.07 | dodev | yy |
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| 13:11.51 | climatecode|nb | now, that's odd. I remember last year's dedupe meeting as going on for hours and hours, but the log says it was over in 15 minutes. |
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| 13:11.57 | LetterRip | but hadn't yet transfered the slot to the pool |
| 13:12.01 | climatecode|nb | that suggests I am remembering some other meeting. |
| 13:12.13 | ajedwards | the meeting took ages to start |
| 13:12.14 | nihathrael | it was |
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| 13:12.39 | ajedwards | iirc last year there were 5 dupes |
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| 13:12.59 | |Kev| | ...left at the time of the meeting. |
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| 13:13.09 | ajedwards | is what i meant |
| 13:13.15 | |Kev| | I know that :) |
| 13:13.30 | iwantOutercurve | how are duplicates resolved ? |
| 13:13.30 | |Kev| | The casual observer might not. |
| 13:13.34 | bretonium | !emails | aghisla |
| 13:13.35 | gsocbot | aghisla: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 13:13.36 | |Kev| | iwantOutercurve: The orgs decide who gets the student. |
| 13:13.46 | iwantOutercurve | student has no say ?? |
| 13:13.48 | ajedwards | iwantOutercurve, and if the orgs don't show, carols chooses one! |
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| 13:13.59 | |Kev| | iwantOutercurve: At this stage? No, not really. |
| 13:14.00 | aghisla | thanks bretonium! I assisted to the whole email storm yesterday :) |
| 13:14.02 | iwantOutercurve | ok |
| 13:14.22 | ojwb | climatecode|nb: the "rejected org feedback meeting" was an epic last year |
| 13:14.29 | iwantOutercurve | last nights emai thingy was bug ?? |
| 13:14.29 | |Kev| | iwantOutercurve: Most cases are resolved prior to the meeting, and many of those will involve asking the student. |
| 13:14.40 | |Kev| | ojwb: This years wasn't particularly light, either. |
| 13:14.47 | iwantOutercurve | coz in my campus all people who actually are VERY good got these |
| 13:14.49 | stu__ | ok but to be honest the emails probably reflected the truth no? |
| 13:14.52 | iwantOutercurve | and i didnt :( |
| 13:15.15 | |Kev| | stu__: They may have reflected something, but they weren't 'right', because the decisions hadn't been made when they were sent out. |
| 13:15.32 | stu__ | okay thanks |
| 13:15.41 | |Kev| | What they reflected, who knows. |
| 13:15.43 | ojwb | stu__: given some students got more than they submitted proposals, I wouldn't try to read anything into them |
| 13:15.50 | |Kev| | But they were certainly quite broken because... |
| 13:15.53 | |Kev| | Right, what ojwb said. |
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| 13:18.19 | iwantOutercurve | any Outercurve guy online ? |
| 13:18.29 | iwantOutercurve | I want Outercurve :) |
| 13:18.31 | MatthewWilkes | !anyone | iwantOutercurve |
| 13:18.31 | gsocbot | iwantOutercurve: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
| 13:18.47 | iwantOutercurve | just kidding :| |
| 13:18.53 | amanforindia | proposal matching deadline decides the minimum set of students who will be selected right? excluding those who come in by slots opening up at dedupe... |
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| 13:19.29 | |Kev| | amanforindia: Nothing is decided yet. Nothing is final until the emails go out on Monday. |
| 13:19.44 | chetan_ | !emails |
| 13:19.44 | gsocbot | chetan_: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 13:19.58 | iwantOutercurve | chetan bansal ?/ |
| 13:20.15 | chetan_ | Excuse me? |
| 13:20.17 | amanforindia | |Kev| : ok... |
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| 13:20.21 | shana | oh wow, looks like the email problem was bad |
| 13:20.22 | iwantOutercurve | you are chetan bansal ?? |
| 13:20.54 | iwantOutercurve | from BPGC ? |
| 13:20.56 | chetan_ | No. I am sorry. |
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| 13:21.03 | iwantOutercurve | oops sorry |
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| 13:21.20 | chetan_ | iwantOutercurve: private message and ask |
| 13:21.33 | shana | now I'm worried if any of my students got them |
| 13:21.37 | shana | oh well |
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| 13:22.20 | chetan_ | shana: Well some did and some didn't. Its fixed now, so not a problem |
| 13:22.38 | shana | nod |
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| 14:01.32 | *** topic/#gsoc is http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted organizations have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. | If your org was rejected and you want to find out why, email carols | The student submission period has ended, good luck to everyone who applied! |
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| 14:01.53 | braverock | so telling our applicants our preliminary slot # allocation didn't exactly give the students a lot of information, other than 1 in 4 chances |
| 14:01.56 | LetterRip | freebsd-brooks doh! |
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| 14:03.46 | |Kev| | Oh good griefy. |
| 14:03.48 | |Kev| | -y |
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| 14:03.58 | masquerade | freebsd-brooks: I'd get the e-mail off soon and label it urgent or somesuch. Perhaps if you get it in there before the business day starts (PST) you can get the slots back before they're reassigned |
| 14:04.01 | |Kev| | Students who read a junk email sent by Melange, but don't read Carol's mails. |
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| 14:04.23 | |Kev| | braverock: It didn't tell them that, either :) |
| 14:05.09 | braverock | only in a general sense, I know. they have no way of knowing how their app compared to the 'best' or 'worst' apps we received |
| 14:05.26 | |Kev| | I typically use, if students ask such things: |
| 14:05.27 | |Kev| | !odds |
| 14:05.27 | gsocbot | |Kev|: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 14:06.02 | baazigar | true said |
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| 14:06.55 | neo01124 | baazigar, o baazigar sabse bada baazigar. dil waalo ka tu dilbar |
| 14:07.19 | baazigar | neo01124:LOL |
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| 14:07.51 | JordiGH | !logs |
| 14:07.51 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:07.59 | gavinatkinson | nihathrael: around now |
| 14:08.43 | JordiGH | Hm, what about recent logs? I just disconnected. |
| 14:08.55 | JordiGH | I was asking if I could say what I want that extra slot for. |
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| 14:10.16 | |Kev| | To Carol? Why would you not be able to tell her? |
| 14:10.33 | JordiGH | I meant here. I guess I can email Carol. |
| 14:10.46 | |Kev| | Emailing Carol is the right way to ask for slots, isn't it? |
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| 14:10.53 | chetan_ | How can I list all the keys for the gsocbot in gsoc section? |
| 14:10.58 | |Kev| | I've not double-checked her mail, but ISTR so. |
| 14:11.14 | JordiGH | Yeah, but I already got lucky once by having another org specifically donate a slot to me, so perhaps I can attract another slot this way if I say what I want it for. :-) |
| 14:11.16 | |Kev| | chetan_: I do not believe you can do that. Or, at least, I don't know how. |
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| 14:11.29 | JordiGH | I guess I can post on the mentors list. That's private, right? |
| 14:11.38 | |Kev| | Privateish, yeah. |
| 14:11.42 | dadkins | gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot#Listing_all_factoids |
| 14:11.43 | JordiGH | Ish? |
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| 14:11.55 | ojwb | i think it would be bad to start a thread where everyone begs for more slots from other orgs |
| 14:12.02 | JordiGH | Yeah... |
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| 14:12.25 | |Kev| | I would have thought trusting it to Carol would be best. |
| 14:12.29 | chetan_ | dadkins: Hey nice. Thank you |
| 14:12.36 | dadkins | chetan_: /msg gsocbot factoids search #gsoc |
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| 14:12.38 | ojwb | nearly as dumb as starting one complaining that you want to unsubscribe because of all the irrelevant email but can't |
| 14:13.07 | dadkins | chetan_: my pleasure -- you can also PM the bot if you don't want to spam the channel |
| 14:13.10 | masquerade | JordiGH: may as well spam the list. Everyone else has with no regard, including the people complaining that other people were spamming the list :) |
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| 14:13.32 | dadkins | masquerade: +1 |
| 14:13.35 | JordiGH | Maybe I should also throw in some comments about plagiarism... |
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| 14:13.45 | chetan_ | dadkins: yes I am doing precisely that |
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| 14:14.14 | gevaerts | JordiGH: yes, but you don't need to think about it too much. Just pick another email from that thread and copy it :) |
| 14:14.35 | JordiGH | gevaerts has a bright idea. |
| 14:14.36 | |Kev| | Bad gevaerts, bad. |
| 14:14.40 | |Kev| | rolls up the newspaper. |
| 14:14.45 | sfb | hahah |
| 14:14.48 | gevaerts | wanted to read that! |
| 14:15.26 | JordiGH | Oh, god, I'm getting enthusiastic emails from the one student I still want to accept. He's sending patches. |
| 14:15.36 | JordiGH | must be strong. |
| 14:15.40 | sfb | haha |
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| 14:16.44 | sfb | JordiGH: Seems like most of my students are in this channel. So I can't talk. |
| 14:16.45 | sfb | haha |
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| 14:18.12 | braverock | JordiGH: then decide if he's stronger than one of your other students, mark his proposal 'should accept' and up-vote |
| 14:18.25 | braverock | still a couple hours left before the scoring deadline |
| 14:18.34 | JordiGH | It's already highly scored. |
| 14:18.38 | JordiGH | But we have no slots left. |
| 14:18.48 | JordiGH | Can you mark it "should accept" even if there are no slots? I'm not an admin. |
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| 14:19.22 | braverock | mark it 'should accept' anyway. your org admin can mark more apps 'should accept' than you have slots. |
| 14:19.23 | |Kev| | JordiGH: You *can*, I believe, but that's not the way it's supposed to work. |
| 14:19.30 | braverock | the highest scored will get the slots. |
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| 14:19.37 | |Kev| | Highest total score, I think. |
| 14:19.42 | |Kev| | Rather than average. |
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| 14:20.19 | JordiGH | Well, the org admins for GNU are aiming for breadth rather than depth. They want as many GNU projects as possible to get slots, so they're taking some slightly lower scored from smaller projects just so smaller projects also get slots. |
| 14:20.49 | JordiGH | Also, it's so difficult to figure out how to rank students. Are 5 4-star votes worth more or less than one 5-star vote? |
| 14:21.00 | braverock | more |
| 14:21.09 | JordiGH | Why? It's not at all clear to me. |
| 14:21.25 | braverock | since the one five-start vote is almost certainly from one person who want s to mentor that project app |
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| 14:22.18 | braverock | we ask all of our mentors to score every proposal that they feel competent to do so, we have 8-14 scores per credible application |
| 14:23.36 | JordiGH | Well, I don't think any of our proposals has more than 5 scorings. |
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| 14:24.35 | climatecode|nb | chetan_: to discover more gsocbot factoids, start a private channel with gsocbot and ask it things such as "factoids search #gsoc bug" |
| 14:24.48 | JordiGH | A private channel? |
| 14:24.56 | JordiGH | You mean a query window? |
| 14:25.12 | JordiGH | The IRC lore of our ancestors is lost on the young'uns... |
| 14:25.19 | JordiGH | laments the loss of the Elder Ways. |
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| 14:26.55 | climatecode|nb | yeah, one of those. Don't call me a young'un; I was a grumpy old git before IRC and I'll be a grumpy old git when it's long forgotten. |
| 14:27.13 | climatecode|nb | and thus one can discover things like |
| 14:27.15 | climatecode|nb | !cake |
| 14:27.15 | gsocbot | climatecode|nb: "cake" is (#1) not a lie anymore, 'cause lh got us some., or (#2) verily omnomnom |
| 14:27.17 | sontek | The de-dupe meeting is today, correct? Or did I already miss it? |
| 14:27.26 | climatecode|nb | !next | sontek |
| 14:27.27 | gsocbot | sontek: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 14:27.31 | JordiGH | sontek: It's today. |
| 14:27.40 | sontek | perfect |
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| 14:28.06 | JordiGH | climatecode|nb: We are all young and old in our ways. |
| 14:28.24 | climatecode|nb | speak for yourself, whippersnapper |
| 14:28.30 | climatecode|nb | humfs |
| 14:28.35 | JordiGH | Let's have a beard-measuring contest. |
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| 14:29.26 | sontek | I have an insta-beard if I don't shave every day |
| 14:29.52 | sontek | No 5-oclock shadow... clean shaven to beard |
| 14:29.55 | climatecode|nb | only once a day? |
| 14:29.57 | gevaerts | accepts JordiGH's challenge |
| 14:30.04 | JordiGH | How does one measure Unix seniority in women? Laugh wrinkles? |
| 14:30.08 | chetan_ | climatecode|nb: Ya. Got bored of "querying" it |
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| 14:30.43 | allman | JordiGH: sounds like a reasonable metric :) |
| 14:30.46 | climatecode|nb | anyone younger than Unix might as well not start. |
| 14:30.58 | allman | smiling? |
| 14:32.10 | buffyg | All I can say is: Don't get into a beard-measuring competition with an org that's developing a Unix platform. We're not such a bunch of old men, but we're amply bearded. |
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| 14:33.31 | climatecode|nb | any woman who survives the appallingly sexist environment of modern geekdom automatically gets massive kudos. |
| 14:33.54 | aghisla | hehe |
| 14:34.19 | atneik | !logs |
| 14:34.20 | gsocbot | atneik: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:34.33 | aghisla | It depends on the group of people you interact with. |
| 14:35.07 | aadi_025 | hi |
| 14:35.23 | aadi_025 | z;skvspkvsap |
| 14:35.23 | aadi_025 | askfpsakfsaf |
| 14:35.24 | aadi_025 | saflsa |
| 14:35.24 | aadi_025 | flsa |
| 14:35.24 | aadi_025 | fsa |
| 14:35.25 | aadi_025 | safsa |
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| 14:35.49 | buffyg | Of course! |
| 14:35.58 | buffyg | Or: what? |
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| 14:37.04 | dsathe | wow some people are jobless to trash spam this channel ! Kudos ! |
| 14:37.33 | climatecode|nb | it's aadi_025's kid sister again, right? |
| 14:37.37 | climatecode|nb | or possibly cat. |
| 14:38.21 | JordiGH | Why not kid brother? |
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| 14:39.20 | dsathe | afaik wasn't he inquiring about how he didnt get the open source model and why would he mentor on irc last night ? |
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| 14:39.55 | dsathe | climatecode|nb: cat :D bahahaha |
| 14:40.28 | aghisla | dfghjk[] |
| 14:40.38 | aghisla | that would be the cat :) |
| 14:40.43 | |Kev| | dsathe: And then today asked how to become a mentor today, having complained that the mentors needed to get paid or they shouldn't do it yesterday, yes. |
| 14:41.06 | dsathe | zomg |
| 14:41.17 | kai | wait, we're not getting paid? |
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| 14:41.25 | climatecode|nb | JordiGH: he was saying something about his kid sister yesterday. |
| 14:41.37 | kai | oh well, then I'll do this for a t-shirt this time around |
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| 14:42.06 | dsathe | kai :D woot \o/ |
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| 14:42.32 | masquerade | Yeah, I'm in againf or the t-shirt. My 2007 one is getting a bit faded |
| 14:42.35 | guifre | gsoc t-shirt? shut up and take my time! |
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| 14:43.16 | dsathe | kai you guys have the same tee as the students or something even more uber wicked ? |
| 14:43.45 | dsathe | wonders if the tee this time would have all colorfull flags :D |
| 14:44.08 | |Kev| | Students and mentors get the same t-shirts. |
| 14:44.17 | dsathe | oh k |
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| 14:44.45 | kai | I think nobody knows how the t-shirt is going to look like |
| 14:45.00 | dsathe | yep just guesing :D |
| 14:45.07 | kai | not even carols, seeing how she said she didn't get around to think about t-shirt design |
| 14:45.26 | guifre | in the pevious years it looked like the logo of gsoc right? |
| 14:45.33 | dsathe | lol gnerally the main mast is quite similar to the logo of the program for that year :D |
| 14:45.45 | guifre | I meant the banner of the site |
| 14:45.50 | dsathe | exactly |
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| 14:46.15 | |Kev| | And *now* a mentor says they want to accept projects. |
| 14:46.20 | |Kev| | This is a little bit late. |
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| 14:46.35 | |Kev| | s/projects/proposals/ |
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| 14:47.31 | kai | |Kev|: well, tell them to try again next year> |
| 14:47.32 | kai | ? |
| 14:47.49 | masquerade | http://kohei.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/google1.jpg <-- did the 2007 logo really look like that? |
| 14:48.08 | kai | yeah |
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| 14:48.35 | dsathe | yep |
| 14:48.52 | myth17 | flowers |
| 14:48.53 | |Kev| | kai: This is the person responsible for one of the software projects under our umbrella. He didn't comment on any of the proposals until now. He ignored me saying that he needed to mark 'want to mentor' (and still hasn't done that), and he posts now saying that he wants to personally mentor two proposals this summer. I'm just facepalming. |
| 14:48.53 | myth17 | lol |
| 14:49.10 | |Kev| | masquerade: Yep, I nearly put that one on this morning. |
| 14:49.40 | dsathe | most common annoying question regarding the shirts last year " does that glow in the dark ?" #facepalm |
| 14:50.12 | aghisla | The 2009 design is my favorite so far. |
| 14:50.14 | kai | if you sprinkle it with radium, yes |
| 14:50.26 | kai | I liked the 2005 design |
| 14:50.33 | masquerade | |Kev|: mine has been washed too much. It's looking grey |
| 14:50.59 | masquerade | I still wear it out to LUG meetings and similar |
| 14:51.00 | |Kev| | That one got more wear than my other ones, for some reason. |
| 14:51.15 | |Kev| | Mostly because I don't wear it to go out, only for exercising in, I expect. |
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| 14:51.33 | dsathe | hahaha radium :D |
| 14:51.56 | |Kev| | aghisla: Do you have a pic, or do I need to find my shirts in my wardrobe? |
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| 14:52.10 | |Kev| | Oh. |
| 14:52.13 | |Kev| | I don't have that one. |
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| 14:52.20 | aghisla | |Kev|: I found one, thanks! |
| 14:52.45 | |Kev| | It must have been 2009 we didn't participate, I thought it was 20120. |
| 14:52.49 | |Kev| | *2010 |
| 14:52.56 | |Kev| | But indeed, I have the 2010 design and not the 2009 one. |
| 14:53.20 | |Kev| | I quite liked the 2008 one. |
| 14:53.26 | |Kev| | And the 2006 one. |
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| 14:53.58 | sontek | This is my first year, the designer better be good >:| |
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| 14:56.44 | kai | hm, I didn't really like the orange bar code |
| 14:56.58 | |Kev| | kai: no? |
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| 14:58.05 | kai | no, I thought it's kind of boring |
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| 14:58.42 | stefanneculai | !logs |
| 14:58.43 | gsocbot | stefanneculai: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 14:59.22 | sontek | If GSoC needs inspiration, here are the Pyramid t-shirts: http://pylonsproject.storenvy.com/ |
| 15:01.38 | dsathe | one of the most epic tee designs sontek ! |
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| 15:02.33 | dsathe | pwns most of the Disney stuff IMHO |
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| 15:03.27 | kai | meh |
| 15:03.43 | dsathe | ? |
| 15:04.12 | kai | it's a bit too "heavy metal" to reasonably wear to work |
| 15:04.21 | dsathe | over done for your taste ? |
| 15:04.28 | dsathe | lol yeah |
| 15:04.33 | dsathe | but cool |
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| 15:04.37 | JordiGH | Ah, Québec. |
| 15:04.39 | JordiGH | No wonder. |
| 15:04.47 | JordiGH | Ils sont fous ces québecois. |
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| 15:05.03 | kai | I'm very much biased towards non-black shirts |
| 15:05.05 | dsathe | not a metal fan , like the classic stuff ! |
| 15:06.09 | dsathe | pity the genre is slowing down :( |
| 15:06.34 | kai | mostly because all the geeky shirts favour black |
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| 15:06.53 | JordiGH | dsathe: Is this metal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQZc4oSFutk |
| 15:07.13 | sontek | I'm usually not a metal/black wearing fan but the shirts definitely stand out at a conference |
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| 15:07.13 | shana | black is good, they work well for going to the gym |
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| 15:07.13 | JordiGH | Er, Kai. |
| 15:07.19 | dsathe | haha kaisee some of the "i do ubuntu" tee's in white , scary Geeky |
| 15:08.58 | dsathe | JordiGH: language ? |
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| 15:09.30 | dsathe | spanish ? |
| 15:09.30 | guifre | yes |
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| 15:10.07 | dsathe | not really metal ! |
| 15:10.18 | chetan_ | !logs |
| 15:10.18 | gsocbot | chetan_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 15:10.48 | xamox | not really metal? |
| 15:11.17 | dsathe | perhaps something like grunge ? cant judge it too well due to lang |
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| 15:11.37 | dsathe | or i that video fooling me ! |
| 15:12.00 | JordiGH | Huh, what does the language have to do with the genre? |
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| 15:13.56 | JordiGH | Do we have to be singing about Ragnarok and Valhalla to make it metal? |
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| 15:13.56 | dsathe | sounds very different , cant quite place it, spanish sounds too sweet from the usual growling |
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| 15:13.56 | JordiGH | http://bash.org/?432386 |
| 15:13.56 | JordiGH | Sweet, you say? |
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| 15:13.56 | dsathe | sounds very different to us |
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| 15:13.56 | JordiGH | Is this sweet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oubLjme5-YI |
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| 15:14.14 | xamox | What band? |
| 15:14.30 | dsathe | hahaha |
| 15:14.31 | JordiGH | Mägo de Oz (c'mon, it's got a heavy metal umlaut) and Brujería. |
| 15:15.52 | dsathe | i'm off |
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| 15:16.52 | dsathe | JordiGH: not my kind of music ! the last video didn't like it ! |
| 15:16.52 | JordiGH | Don't call my language sweet. >:) |
| 15:17.22 | dsathe | Omg ok |
| 15:17.23 | JordiGH | Hahaha |
| 15:17.23 | dsathe | any beatles fan ? |
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| 15:17.48 | JordiGH | Anyways, this was all for kai, not for dsathe. |
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| 15:18.35 | dsathe | JordiGH: you may like this take of eleanor rigby : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvDg6wDtYKk |
| 15:18.51 | JordiGH | Ooh. |
| 15:18.55 | JordiGH | I like the intro. |
| 15:19.15 | dsathe | the bes version i have heard of this song :D |
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| 15:20.09 | dzhus | dedup soon? |
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| 15:21.46 | jcalvinowens | !next |
| 15:21.49 | gsocbot | jcalvinowens: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 15:22.28 | kai | JordiGH: it's some sort of metal, I guess |
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| 15:23.55 | MatthewWilkes | sontek: Hang on, pyramid ploneconf 2011 shirt? Where were they hiding? |
| 15:24.02 | MatthewWilkes | I didn't see any! |
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| 15:26.17 | sontek | MatthewWilkes: the ploneconf ones were limited, like 15? |
| 15:26.30 | neo01124 | dsathe, this guy has the typical american idol singing thing. find it ridiculously distracting |
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| 15:27.00 | MatthewWilkes | sontek: bah, I was too busy pouring everyone's bloody beer for them to schmooze mcdonc |
| 15:27.27 | sontek | haha |
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| 15:29.32 | antrixyaan | was gsoc's accepted student list leaked? some friends here got email that they were selected and could see pages on melange |
| 15:29.41 | antrixyaan | lol, or was it a scam |
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| 15:30.32 | jcalvinowens | !emails |
| 15:30.32 | gsocbot | jcalvinowens: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 15:30.34 | kai | !emails | arthursribeiro |
| 15:30.34 | gsocbot | arthursribeiro: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 15:30.36 | kai | er |
| 15:30.38 | kai | sorry |
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| 15:30.48 | |Kev| | They left - that's why I've not done that yet ;) |
| 15:30.53 | kai | I hate people who part right after saying something |
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| 15:38.36 | *** topic/#gsoc is http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted organizations have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. | If your org was rejected and you want to find out why, email carols | The student submission period has ended, good luck to everyone who applied! |
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| 15:40.41 | ppp_ | can the rank be known |
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| 15:43.27 | X-tonic | hi, dsathe |
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| 15:47.03 | shibulijack | With a record of 6,685 applications, GSoC is taken to the next level this year. Hats off! |
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| 15:47.30 | JordiGH | What was the previous level? |
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| 15:48.01 | masquerade | !numapps |
| 15:48.01 | gsocbot | masquerade: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 15:48.12 | masquerade | apparently the previous level was 5474 |
| 15:48.27 | climatecode|nb | "mostly harmless" |
| 15:48.36 | masquerade | Or maybe 5539 since that's how many were in 2010 |
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| 15:49.47 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 15:50.05 | Artemius23 | How many students were accepted to work on Wesnoth last year ? |
| 15:50.08 | shibulijack | gsocbot: So approximately, how many student applications will be selected this year? |
| 15:50.17 | JordiGH | carols: How about a valium too? This final stretch to dedup is nerve-wracking. |
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| 15:50.33 | SFBguy | carols: you missed the sugar! |
| 15:50.36 | neXyon | shibulijack: gsocbot is a bot as the name suggests, I bet your question is to complex for him :D |
| 15:50.41 | carols | JordiGH: not my thing, really. sorry. |
| 15:50.45 | aghisla | morning carols! |
| 15:50.49 | gevaerts | JordiGH: I'd be careful with that. You don't want to sleep through the meeting |
| 15:50.53 | carols | good morning aghisla |
| 15:51.12 | shibulijack | lol |
| 15:51.14 | JordiGH | lol |
| 15:51.18 | shibulijack | Its late and I am sleepy ;( |
| 15:51.22 | aghisla | discovered too late the "Extra columns" on the bottom of organisation profile |
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| 15:52.13 | carols | looks like the orgs have been doing a great job resolving duplicates while i've been sleeping :-) |
| 15:52.15 | carols | is so proud |
| 15:52.32 | shana | :) |
| 15:52.39 | Artemius23 | approximately how many students were accepted for one org. ? |
| 15:52.55 | shibulijack | depends on the organization I guess |
| 15:53.09 | gevaerts | carols: maybe you should cancel the dedup meeting and go back to sleep then :) |
| 15:53.09 | climatecode|nb | puts kettle on again. |
| 15:53.17 | carols | gevaerts: don't i wish :-) |
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| 15:53.32 | Artemius23 | I think it may between 3 and 5 students |
| 15:53.35 | gene_ | how to know number of slots in particular oraganization? |
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| 15:53.47 | OliverUv | Artemius23: write !numapps and !odds in a private message to gsocbot |
| 15:53.54 | masquerade | gene_: you can ask the organization directly, they may or may not tell you |
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| 15:55.12 | potter | !logs |
| 15:55.12 | gsocbot | potter: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 15:56.48 | emabjis | !odds |
| 15:56.49 | gsocbot | emabjis: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 15:58.06 | climatecode|nb | carols: is it reasonable to suppose that the total number of accepted proposals will be broadly similar to last year's? |
| 15:58.25 | shibulijack | I wish I had a time machine to jump to 23 April, 12:00 ;) |
| 15:58.39 | shibulijack | is soo excited |
| 15:58.50 | |Kev| | Don't wish your life away. |
| 15:58.50 | OliverUv | i think we're all hoping GSoC will grow every year! |
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| 15:59.07 | dreimark | wishs to have an ice cream sandwhich now |
| 15:59.12 | Al_Da_Best | That's a whole weekend of sleep you're missing out there |
| 15:59.15 | aghisla | for next soc, my organisation will prepare a lot of little coding tasks to kill time until announcement :) |
| 15:59.17 | masquerade | shibulijack: spend this time playing games or doing something fun which you won't have time for once the summer starts :-P |
| 16:00.01 | gene_ | is there anyway to know number of slots a particular org got? |
| 16:00.05 | shibulijack | masquerade: unfortunately, I have my university exams going on now.. |
| 16:00.11 | OliverUv | aghisla: this is smart |
| 16:00.19 | masquerade | gene_: I already told you. You can ask the organization directly, they may or may not tell you |
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| 16:01.00 | shibulijack | But yes, I will have to do a lot of coding this summer, if I get selected :) |
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| 16:01.13 | gene_ | is there anyother way, as they are not telling |
| 16:01.18 | blast007 | no |
| 16:01.45 | shibulijack | You will get to know in a couple of days gene_ ;) |
| 16:02.01 | Artemius23 | When will t-shirt be posted ? :p |
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| 16:02.09 | shibulijack | lol |
| 16:02.15 | gene_ | yeah... i am dying out here :P |
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| 16:02.24 | sa1 | gsocbot is wrong about odds. :/ Everything has odds till you are ignorant about other information. |
| 16:02.26 | Artemius23 | I want to dream in code with AI as well as wanting to t-shirt :p |
| 16:02.28 | sa1 | !odds |
| 16:02.29 | gsocbot | sa1: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 16:02.30 | edsiper | good morning all |
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| 16:03.27 | sa1 | has a probability exam and gsoc results both on Monday. :/ |
| 16:03.32 | Xeli | !timeline |
| 16:03.32 | gsocbot | Xeli: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 16:07.34 | ahmdrefat | If organization was okay with proposal, Is Google still could refuse it? |
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| 16:07.53 | |Kev| | Could, but it doesn't generally happen. |
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| 16:10.37 | ahmdrefat | |Kev|, I hope so |
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| 16:10.55 | carols | ahmdrefat: what |Kev| said. |
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| 16:11.15 | fcerullo | hi there |
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| 16:11.28 | MatthewWilkes | There seems to be a lot of worrying about edge cases that never happen this year |
| 16:11.31 | MatthewWilkes | more so than usual |
| 16:11.32 | JordiGH | I wonder what would be necessary for Google to override that... Should be something pretty serious, I imagine. |
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| 16:12.38 | nextgens | hi |
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| 16:12.58 | carols | hi nextgens |
| 16:14.11 | fcerullo | is there an issue with melange that doesnt allow to deselect 'accepted' students? |
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| 16:14.43 | fcerullo | ive sorted two issues regarding duplication |
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| 16:15.28 | fcerullo | but when trying to deselect the student in question it still shows as 'conflicting' |
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| 16:15.57 | gene_ | any one have information regarding liquid galaxy? slots/duplication etc? |
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| 16:16.22 | sol0invictus | 2.30 hrs to go |
| 16:16.28 | carols | gene_: have you asked them? |
| 16:16.29 | sol0invictus | for proposal matching |
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| 16:17.18 | gene_ | @carols: ya i asked, no info |
| 16:17.25 | gene_ | can you help please |
| 16:17.31 | carols | gene_: then that's their prerogative. |
| 16:17.34 | carols | nope, i can't help. |
| 16:17.46 | carols | they get to choose what they tell you. |
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| 16:18.08 | gene_ | ok thank you |
| 16:18.23 | sol0invictus | any outercurve guy online ? |
| 16:18.33 | Arjun06 | When will the students come to know about their duplication, if any? |
| 16:19.19 | carols | Arjun06: well, if you stick around for the meeting, the students are going to be called by name |
| 16:19.50 | nextgens | carols> hi, I'm confused by the slot-transfert form; it tells me we're using 5 slots whereas I can only count 4 projects... (freenet) |
| 16:19.50 | sol0invictus | if he/she isnt present ? |
| 16:19.51 | |Kev| | Aww, I was hoping we'd managed to get rid of all the dupes this year. |
| 16:19.59 | gevaerts | The students that are still unresolved anyway |
| 16:20.04 | Arjun06 | ok, thanks carols and what it some one misses it? |
| 16:20.13 | carols | nextgens: then you probably need to transfer one back... |
| 16:20.21 | carols | Arjun06: a student or a mentor? |
| 16:20.48 | Arjun06 | student :-) |
| 16:21.12 | carols | Arjun06: nothing at all will happen. |
| 16:21.16 | carols | a decision will be made |
| 16:21.21 | carols | and then we go on with our lives :-) |
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| 16:21.48 | Arjun06 | ok :-) |
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| 16:21.58 | Arjun05 | o.o Arjun06, my arch nemesis....! ;) |
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| 16:22.12 | nextgens | carols> hmm, but that's what's confusing: I'm expecting only 4 projects and the webapp tells us that'd use 5 slots |
| 16:22.19 | zatix | !logs |
| 16:22.20 | gsocbot | zatix: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 16:22.29 | carols | nextgens: oh, i see. it's the reverse? you need another slot? |
| 16:23.01 | climatecode|nb | carols: freebsd-brooks was online earlier, asking about requesting slots. I gather they gave back too many last night. |
| 16:23.02 | carols | nextgens: have you sorted all proposals for your org based on pending acceptance, no mentor assigned, etc and made sure all the numbers add up for those you want to accept? |
| 16:23.07 | Arjun06 | Arjun05: :-) |
| 16:23.11 | carols | climatecode|nb: i'm aware and it's fixed. |
| 16:23.15 | carols | thank you for letting me know. |
| 16:23.17 | climatecode|nb | great. |
| 16:23.38 | nextgens | carols> the numbers don't add up, that's why I'm confused. I can see only 4 projects with mentors assigned and the webapp tells us we'd need 5 slots |
| 16:23.44 | climatecode|nb | (long term FreeBSD user, would hate to see them go short). |
| 16:23.58 | sol0invictus | :D |
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| 16:24.23 | nextgens | carols> we have 4 'pending acceptance' projects, all with mentors asssigned; all the other are 'no mentor' or 'pending' |
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| 16:24.52 | nextgens | yet on the organization profile it counts 5 slots and tells us we're one slot short |
| 16:25.02 | carols | nextgens: i'll look at it and let you know. |
| 16:25.07 | nextgens | thanks |
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| 16:26.31 | carols | nextgens: what org? |
| 16:26.35 | nextgens | freenet |
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| 16:26.56 | dontula_kapil | can we know anything about selection today |
| 16:26.57 | dontula_kapil | >,, |
| 16:27.00 | dontula_kapil | ?.. |
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| 16:27.12 | carols | nextgens: ok |
| 16:27.15 | carols | dontula_kapil: no |
| 16:27.27 | dontula_kapil | ok |
| 16:27.34 | dontula_kapil | thnk u :0 |
| 16:27.36 | dontula_kapil | :) |
| 16:27.54 | carols | yw |
| 16:28.00 | carols | don't often get a thank you for saying "no" |
| 16:28.01 | carols | :-) |
| 16:28.16 | gene_ | dup meeting for liquid galaxy over? |
| 16:28.33 | dontula_kapil | thanks for information :) |
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| 16:30.08 | nextgens | carols> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/testesq.png/ |
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| 16:34.01 | kblin | !timeline |
| 16:34.01 | gsocbot | kblin: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 16:34.03 | zatix | the shirt is important part of the deal, hopefully the design will rlz |
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| 16:34.29 | asteig | !next |
| 16:34.30 | gsocbot | asteig: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 16:36.50 | freebsd-brooks | climatecode|nb: carols got back to me and we're good |
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| 16:39.17 | Uli- | is there something wrong with the duplication status again? i've got the same student with two proposals to our org showing up as pending acceptance where it should read duplicate |
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| 16:40.00 | kblin | Uli-: you're not supposed to accept him twice ;) |
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| 16:40.36 | Uli- | kblin: earlier today he showed up as a duplicate |
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| 16:41.07 | Uli- | which makes me wonder whether i can trust the status... |
| 16:41.14 | gene_ | @kblin do you know when in wesnoth dup meetup is? |
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| 16:41.22 | |Kev| | No-one is marked as a duplicate while the script runs, I believe. |
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| 16:41.36 | kblin | gene_: the duplication meeting is the same time for all orgs |
| 16:41.37 | Lennie | Duplicates calculation status: Processing |
| 16:41.54 | kblin | !next | gene_ |
| 16:41.55 | gsocbot | gene_: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 16:42.03 | Uli- | Lennie: that explains it, thanks. |
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| 16:42.37 | kblin | duplicates Lennie |
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| 16:43.52 | Lennie | Uli-, which org? |
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| 16:44.21 | beet | Lennie: Hi, do students need to attend the duplicate-meetup later? |
| 16:44.27 | carols | beet: no |
| 16:44.55 | Uli- | Lennie: apache |
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| 16:45.16 | Uli- | Lennie: it's showing the duplicates now. |
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| 16:45.40 | beet | carols, thanks! And could the student know it if he is duplicated? |
| 16:45.43 | Lennie | Duplicates calculation status: Idle Last calculated at: 20th April 2012 16:44 |
| 16:45.44 | Lennie | :) |
| 16:46.08 | carols | beet: well, we'll be calling the students by name in the meeting, so if you are here for the meeting you'll know whether or not you're in that situation. |
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| 16:46.23 | Lennie | Uli-, the script runs on command or every hour automatically just don't accept a student twice :P |
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| 16:47.10 | beet | carols, thanks! I'll wait, then. Though it's late into the midnight here in my timezone :) |
| 16:47.22 | carols | beet: then i guess you'll just have to read the logs :-) |
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| 16:47.35 | Lennie | !logs | beet |
| 16:47.35 | gsocbot | beet: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 16:47.40 | Lennie | lunch! |
| 16:47.40 | shana | UTC=GMT, right? |
| 16:47.47 | shana | looks at a timezone calculator |
| 16:47.53 | solardiz | for a student who submitted two proposals to our org and is to be accepted for one, will they receive separate accepted/rejected e-mails (two) per proposal? i guess so. (just curious) |
| 16:47.56 | JCody | shana: Yes. |
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| 16:48.44 | bretonium | I'm ready to work on two projects, if google provides coffee, cola and pizza twice a day. |
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| 16:48.58 | aghisla | shana: in a shell, you can run `date --date='TZ="UTC" 19:00 next Fri'` or any date you need to convert |
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| 16:49.13 | shana | oh, I always forget that, thanks :) |
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| 16:49.36 | aghisla | will make a tshirt with that command |
| 16:49.38 | blast007 | aghisla: oh, that's a neat trick. :) |
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| 16:49.55 | dreimark | bretonium: you should become a mentor ;) |
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| 16:50.25 | solardiz | bretonium: oh, i'm only wondering how melange handles the situation. whether it maybe has special logic for the case of multiple proposals to _one_ org. |
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| 16:51.58 | aakash | are the logs of this irc updated in the end of day? |
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| 16:52.33 | manu4543 | logs? |
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| 16:52.55 | aakash | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 16:53.16 | aakash | these logs or chat archive |
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| 16:53.36 | hybrid | !next |
| 16:53.38 | gsocbot | hybrid: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 16:54.20 | bretonium | aakash: I can share my logs, I've been online here for the last 24h |
| 16:54.37 | aakash | ok |
| 16:54.43 | gene_ | share bretonium |
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| 16:55.44 | rahul_ | so whats up wid yesterdays email stuff???? |
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| 16:56.02 | sol0invictus | !emails | rahul |
| 16:56.02 | gsocbot | sol0invictus: Error: No such user. |
| 16:56.12 | carols | rahul_: you've read the plus post and the emails, i assume, yes? |
| 16:56.13 | sol0invictus | !emails | rahul_ |
| 16:56.13 | gsocbot | rahul_: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
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| 16:56.34 | rahul_ | plus post,, no idont know about that |
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| 16:57.29 | carols | rahul_: https://plus.google.com/u/1/102168248469649733567/posts/2a98dngJmPv |
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| 16:58.02 | bretonium | gene_: aakash: query |
| 16:58.36 | aakash | ya got the log |
| 16:58.49 | gene_ | bretonium i also wanna see th log |
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| 16:58.56 | gene_ | any links? |
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| 16:59.27 | nbafna | !logs |
| 16:59.27 | gsocbot | nbafna: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 16:59.35 | bretonium | gene_: see your private query |
| 16:59.51 | gene_ | !logs |
| 16:59.51 | gsocbot | gene_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 17:00.40 | j2shar | can i see personalised log stating my own participation in irc's |
| 17:01.06 | gene_ | aakash where is log? |
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| 17:01.23 | nbafna | there was supposed to be de-dup meeting now? |
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| 17:01.51 | thgil | nbafna: at 19:00 i think |
| 17:01.53 | dhaun | nbafna: it's not 19:00 UTC yet |
| 17:02.07 | gene_ | !next |
| 17:02.08 | gsocbot | gene_: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 17:02.14 | climatecode|nb | right now it is 17:02 UTC. |
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| 17:02.21 | nbafna | it is. 17:02. |
| 17:02.23 | aakash | you mush have got the private chat window containing the link with .log in the end just click it |
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| 17:03.55 | aakash | so a student can get to know by that he is accepted or not by searching the log if he is accepted by two orgs ? |
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| 17:05.26 | carols | aakash: nope |
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| 17:05.31 | dreimark | aakash: no |
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| 17:05.38 | |Kev| | aakash: There will be maybe a half dozen duplicates resolved this evening, probably. |
| 17:05.47 | |Kev| | It's not going to be a name call of all accepted students |
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| 17:06.06 | gene_ | aakash can u send again, i think i didnt get .log link |
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| 17:07.21 | aakash | gene_: have you got a private chat window? |
| 17:07.27 | SravanthiSinha | aakash can u send mee too dat link |
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| 17:07.45 | aakash | sorry i have closed the window conatining the link |
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| 17:09.14 | aakash | i think only bretonium can send the log link bcoz he was there for 24 hours |
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| 17:09.42 | malex | j2shar: If you're using irssi - then "/lastlog -regex .*j2shar.* will show you all lines that match your nick. |
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| 17:10.21 | ajedwards | <malex> j2shar: If you're using irssi - then "/lastlog -regex .*j2shar.* will show you all lines that match your nick. |
| 17:10.33 | ajedwards | (for j2shar) |
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| 17:11.31 | aakash | the query sets the gsoc bot to send the log of the person, i think carol can help better for log |
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| 17:12.13 | aadi_025 | hi every body |
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| 17:13.26 | carols | aadi_025: hi there |
| 17:13.32 | gene_ | aakash no private chat window |
| 17:13.36 | j2shar | ajedwards I am using pidgin & the command u gave is shown unknown |
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| 17:14.25 | aadi_025 | @carols |
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| 17:14.26 | aadi_025 | hi |
| 17:14.29 | carols | hi |
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| 17:14.35 | JakeDust | j2shar: Conversation -> View Log |
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| 17:14.52 | aadi_025 | @carols:- waiting for my choclate :P |
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| 17:15.13 | carols | aadi_025: i guess you're going to be waiting a while…i served tea and coffee earlier and that's all i've got right now |
| 17:15.16 | carols | sorry to disappoint |
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| 17:15.41 | aadi_025 | @carols :- :( |
| 17:15.50 | weltallAnd | Lol |
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| 17:16.20 | aakash | carols: how will the orgs communicate about the common student by their name or some encrypted name? |
| 17:16.32 | carols | aakash: their name. |
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| 17:16.43 | |Kev| | The names will all be encrypted with rot13rot13. |
| 17:16.50 | aghisla | some weird hand waving signs. |
| 17:17.06 | j2shar | JakeDust:Thanks :) |
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| 17:17.37 | JakeDust | j2shar: you're welcome :) |
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| 17:17.45 | ajedwards | aakash, the only way that'll be any help to you is if you're one of the duplicates... |
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| 17:18.08 | aakash | carols: then the student can probable search for his name in the log |
| 17:18.30 | dsathe | rot 13 :D |
| 17:18.30 | aakash | ajedwards: ? |
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| 17:18.36 | ajedwards | aakash, the names wont be mentioned on this channel |
| 17:18.39 | carols | aakash: sure. the 4-5 students in a duplicate situation right now who will be called out in the meeting can search for their names in the logs. |
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| 17:18.41 | carols | this is true. |
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| 17:19.25 | ajedwards | some people take this way too seriously.. |
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| 17:19.43 | ajedwards | 23rd is only on Monday |
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| 17:19.47 | aakash | carols: then it means by searching the name and matching with the mentor name, he/she can know before time that he is atleast accepted..? |
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| 17:20.00 | carols | aakash: nope. this meeting has no bearing on acceptance. |
| 17:20.06 | carols | those decisions aren't made until monday. |
| 17:20.10 | carols | sorry to disappoint again. |
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| 17:20.40 | haseeb | Meeting starts in another two hours? |
| 17:20.49 | gedare | better yet those students can sit here and watch directly. |
| 17:20.54 | carols | haseeb: about an hour and a half, yes. |
| 17:21.02 | gedare | not much to do about it :) |
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| 17:23.21 | haseeb | carols,Last years meeting ended in 20 mins. What about this time? |
| 17:23.43 | carols | haseeb: um, you're asking me to predict how long a meeting that hasn't happened yet will take? |
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| 17:23.51 | ajedwards | carols, shoot for 5 minutes or 'NOBODY GETS THE SLOT!' :) |
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| 17:23.59 | haseeb | Yes |
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| 17:24.11 | carols | haseeb: sorry, my crystal ball is out of service today. |
| 17:24.15 | carols | sorry to disappoint again. |
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| 17:24.44 | weltallAnd | Need to buy a new one |
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| 17:25.41 | edsiper | !next |
| 17:25.42 | gene_ | dsathe there? |
| 17:25.43 | gsocbot | edsiper: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
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| 17:26.18 | dsathe | hey gene_ temme |
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| 17:26.48 | X-tonic | dsathe: hanging around for the de duplication metting? |
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| 17:27.00 | bml4633 | @carols, has anybody given you a big cyberhug for everything you do and all the hair you lose over GSoC? If not, then I shall :) |
| 17:27.06 | gene_ | dsathe.. which org u applied this |
| 17:27.07 | gene_ | time |
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| 17:27.14 | carols | bml4633: nope. and thank you :-) |
| 17:27.19 | dadkins | !timeline |
| 17:27.19 | gsocbot | dadkins: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 17:27.28 | dsathe | no i was upto something,, generally logged on, got the loud ping on purple |
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| 17:28.03 | dsathe | X-tonic: gene_ moving to pm this list has too much imp stuff for our chitchat |
| 17:28.24 | gene_ | ok |
| 17:28.26 | gene_ | sorry |
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| 17:29.10 | X-tonic | carols: The timeline isnt clear abt what happens after the meeting today. !next still holds? |
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| 17:29.35 | carols | X-tonic: after the meeting i spend 3 days making sure all the orgs have done the Right Thing and pulling my hair out |
| 17:29.40 | carols | then on monday we announce students |
| 17:29.45 | carols | so yeah, i think !next is right |
| 17:30.02 | MatthewWilkes | carols: How often in the programme are you not pulling your hair out? |
| 17:30.03 | X-tonic | ohk.. and then you should have a big vaccation. You deserve one. |
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| 17:30.05 | X-tonic | ;) |
| 17:30.18 | Strangerke | hi everybody |
| 17:30.28 | X-tonic | hi Strangerke |
| 17:30.29 | carols | MatthewWilkes: the months between late may and early august are actually ok. mostly because students are coding. |
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| 17:31.13 | weltallAnd | So losing all hair each year that's mean from us :) |
| 17:31.19 | aakash | is there a documentation about the selection process of gsoc particularly for these days? |
| 17:31.33 | aakash | by these i mean 20-23 |
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| 17:31.39 | r0bby|OpenMRS | gives carols some chammile tea |
| 17:31.45 | carols | thanks r0bby|OpenMRS |
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| 17:31.48 | carols | sips some tea |
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| 17:32.05 | downey | serves some crumpets |
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| 17:33.33 | dsathe | !logs | vikash |
| 17:33.34 | gsocbot | vikash: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 17:34.21 | OpenMRS|r0bby | lounges on the couch and puts his feet on the coffee table |
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| 17:34.38 | OpenMRS|r0bby | is it wrong to say happy 420 ? |
| 17:34.39 | OpenMRS|r0bby | :P |
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| 17:34.52 | carols | OpenMRS|r0bby: its 204 in most of the world :-) |
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| 17:35.42 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: what? |
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| 17:35.49 | OpenMRS|r0bby | dyslexic parts? |
| 17:36.02 | blast007 | OpenMRS|r0bby: many places use DD/MM/YY |
| 17:36.03 | gedare|RTEMS | small, medium, large |
| 17:36.06 | carols | you're celebrating the fact it's 4/20 today. most of the world writes that as 20/4 |
| 17:36.20 | gedare|RTEMS | days, months, years ;) |
| 17:36.25 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: true lol |
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| 17:36.38 | carols | :-) |
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| 17:36.56 | hsy | blast007: i think they use dots. it's only with slashes when you need to pay attention, usually. |
| 17:37.05 | blast007 | hsy: heh |
| 17:37.19 | aghisla|OSGeo | or hyphens |
| 17:37.22 | X-tonic | So when do stats like total number of google slots this year be released? |
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| 17:37.31 | dsathe | post 23 |
| 17:37.32 | Kev|XSF | Hyphens imply you're doing ISO time, which is fine. |
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| 17:37.37 | hsy | aghisla|OSGeo: yes. and ISO rulez :-) |
| 17:37.37 | Kev|XSF | 2012-04-20 is fairly unambiguous. |
| 17:37.38 | carols | X-tonic: we write a blog post every year about it. |
| 17:37.43 | X-tonic | !stats | me |
| 17:37.43 | gsocbot | X-tonic: (stats takes no arguments) -- Returns some statistics on the user database. |
| 17:37.48 | aghisla|OSGeo | :) |
| 17:37.50 | X-tonic | !stats |
| 17:37.51 | gsocbot | X-tonic: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 17:37.56 | OpenMRS|r0bby | !stats |
| 17:37.56 | gsocbot | OpenMRS|r0bby: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
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| 17:38.08 | mohyt | !stats |
| 17:38.08 | gsocbot | mohyt: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 17:38.09 | bipul | is there any age criteria for gsoc ? |
| 17:38.16 | OpenMRS|r0bby | !botsnack |
| 17:38.17 | gsocbot | OpenMRS|r0bby: "botsnack" is tasty |
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| 17:38.26 | dsathe | its !numapps |
| 17:38.32 | OpenMRS|r0bby | gives gsocbot some botsnacks |
| 17:38.56 | OpenMRS|r0bby | !numapps |
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| 17:38.56 | gsocbot | OpenMRS|r0bby: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 17:38.56 | X-tonic | bipul: You need to be a student, no matter what age, AFAIK |
| 17:38.56 | carols | bipul: yes, you must be over 18. |
| 17:38.56 | flaushy | 18+ |
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| 17:39.18 | dsathe | bipul: afaik isn't it a bit late to start apps ? |
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| 17:39.42 | bipul | ok |
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| 17:39.49 | OpenMRS|r0bby | bipul: you're a bit screwed atm as far as applying |
| 17:39.55 | bipul | i am student here in india |
| 17:39.56 | blast007 | dsathe: or a bit early, depending on how you look at it ;) |
| 17:40.02 | dsathe | lol |
| 17:40.08 | OpenMRS|r0bby | they announce accepted students on Monday |
| 17:40.18 | dsathe | bipul: is this you first visit to #gsoc or app page ? |
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| 17:40.28 | haseeb | !faqs | bipul |
| 17:40.28 | bipul | well 3 time |
| 17:40.37 | OpenMRS|r0bby | and carols will most likely be meeting a good bit of alcohol for some funtime after this is over |
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| 17:40.42 | dsathe | have you applied , in short D |
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| 17:41.01 | carols | OpenMRS|r0bby: i'm fine, i do this every year. i have coffee and tea to help me cope :-) |
| 17:41.07 | openwall|solar | bipul: start contributing to a project of your choice outside of gsoc now, have a good chance of being accepted next year :-) |
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| 17:42.16 | OpenMRS|r0bby | bipul: what orgs want to see is that you: a) know the project and know it well b) have a good plan of action c) have a well defined and REASONABLE timeline d) are motivated and can work somewhat independently |
| 17:42.22 | OpenMRS|r0bby | this isn't *ALL* orgs |
| 17:42.23 | climatecode|nb | preparing for one of these meetings is a bit like retiring to the smoking parlour after dinner. |
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| 17:42.31 | climatecode|nb | Everybody gets their pipes out. |
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| 17:43.16 | malex | One big family... |
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| 17:43.29 | OpenMRS|r0bby | the #gsoc is huge |
| 17:43.36 | OpenMRS|r0bby | everybody have a seat :D |
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| 17:43.48 | OpenMRS|r0bby | puts on dance music :-P |
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| 17:44.11 | climatecode|nb | anyone for whist? |
| 17:45.05 | climatecode|nb | when I say everyone, I mean at least three of us. There'll be more later. |
| 17:45.10 | twanj | does anyone know how long the dedupe meeting will take or if some people can do their part early? I have a wedding rehearsal an hour later & our other admins are at work. I'd rather do it & not have to ask someone to take time off work |
| 17:45.22 | climatecode|nb | twanj: last year it was 15 minutes. |
| 17:45.22 | Kev|XSF | twanj: Most likely minutes. |
| 17:45.25 | braverock | anywhere from 10 minutes to two hours |
| 17:45.32 | twanj | oh, whew |
| 17:46.00 | OpenMRS|r0bby | ...is my presence here redundant? |
| 17:46.13 | climatecode|nb | depends how many dupes there are. justice at the court of carols is swift and final. |
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| 17:46.32 | carols | laughs |
| 17:46.33 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols = judge judy |
| 17:46.36 | carols | i love you guys |
| 17:46.41 | OpenMRS|r0bby | strict |
| 17:46.45 | OpenMRS|r0bby | and lovable! |
| 17:46.53 | SeriousWorm | we students love you too <3 |
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| 17:47.03 | carols | i'm putting that on my blog or something. |
| 17:47.11 | carols | aw, thanks SeriousWorm |
| 17:47.12 | carols | :-) |
| 17:47.14 | SeriousWorm | :) |
| 17:47.18 | mohyt | :) |
| 17:47.26 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: what on your blog? that you're judge judy? |
| 17:47.44 | carols | OpenMRS|r0bby: "justice at the court of carols is swift and final." |
| 17:48.01 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: yeh |
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| 17:48.06 | carols | :-) |
| 17:48.56 | sonney2k | carols, so how many duplicates do you have? |
| 17:48.57 | climatecode|nb | bows low, and withdraws for dinner. |
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| 17:49.09 | carols | sonney2k: you'll find out in about….1 hour and 10 minutes. |
| 17:49.16 | sonney2k | heh |
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| 17:49.27 | gentoo|dberkholz | i already resolved our only dupe, so we're doing great unless someone else screws us up =) |
| 17:49.38 | OpenMRS|r0bby | we resolved our dupe as well |
| 17:49.47 | sfb | gentoo|dberkholz: Is taht called a dupe-chain? |
| 17:49.49 | lak_ | will the students be mailed if the proposal is accepted or rejected?? |
| 17:49.59 | sfb | gentoo|dberkholz: I fix my dupe by duping with a different student? |
| 17:50.00 | carols | lak_: yes, on monday. |
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| 17:50.03 | sonney2k | we never had one - so I hope it stays like this |
| 17:50.06 | OpenMRS|r0bby | lak_: yes. |
| 17:50.13 | OpenMRS|r0bby | you'll get one email per proposal |
| 17:50.17 | gentoo|dberkholz | sfb: i suppose so. |
| 17:50.20 | OpenMRS|r0bby | but only one acceptance |
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| 17:50.31 | lak_ | :-) |
| 17:50.33 | gentoo|dberkholz | sfb: it would be good to improve the dupe-detection algorithm by also showing potential unaccepted dupes. |
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| 17:50.39 | gentoo|dberkholz | but i won't be writing the code =) |
| 17:50.45 | headius | anyone from fedora here yet? |
| 17:50.46 | OpenMRS|r0bby | gentoo|dberkholz: why... |
| 17:50.50 | aghisla|OSGeo | has no dupes so far |
| 17:50.54 | OpenMRS|r0bby | that's rather pointless |
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| 17:51.10 | qheaden | Today supposed to be resolution of duplicate accepted students. What does this mean? Students accepted to multiple organizations, or students accepted for multiple proposals for one organization? |
| 17:51.11 | gentoo|dberkholz | OpenMRS|r0bby: so that when i'm forced to de-dupe someone, i don't pick a replacement who will also be a dupe |
| 17:51.12 | OpenMRS|r0bby | that is good for statistical purposes -- but nothing else |
| 17:51.18 | carols | qheaden: either |
| 17:51.23 | carols | both |
| 17:51.25 | OpenMRS|r0bby | gentoo|dberkholz: that's evil |
| 17:51.26 | carols | yes :-) |
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| 17:51.49 | gentoo|dberkholz | OpenMRS|r0bby: it's unknowable, is the problem. the current setup only scans over "would be accepted" students, not all "willing to accept" ones |
| 17:51.53 | OpenMRS|r0bby | gentoo|dberkholz: ohh I see what you mean |
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| 17:52.02 | OpenMRS|r0bby | gentoo|dberkholz: that's why this meeting is happening |
| 17:52.05 | qheaden | mozilla|gerv: Hi there. I submitted two applications to Mozilla. Is there anything extra I need to do? |
| 17:52.11 | carols | qheaden: no |
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| 17:52.16 | mozilla|gerv | qheaden: no |
| 17:52.18 | Catroid|sercan | stocks himself up with cookies and coffee who wants some? |
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| 17:52.30 | qheaden | OK. Thanks. |
| 17:52.31 | mozilla|gerv | It's well past the time for making any sort of changes to anything. |
| 17:52.34 | gentoo|dberkholz | hiya headius|JRuby. might want to switch the org around so people can tab-complete on your org name |
| 17:52.40 | OpenMRS|r0bby | qheaden: go get wasted relax :) |
| 17:52.58 | headius|JRuby | gentoo|dberkholz: yeah, just noticed that |
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| 17:53.06 | codercube | why do we have to wait saturday and sunday to know the results? |
| 17:53.11 | qheaden | mozilla|gerv: No, I mean like, is there anything I have to do about resolving duplicate stuff. |
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| 17:53.17 | qheaden | Since I sumitted two proposals. |
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| 17:53.25 | carols | cobolt: because everything goes wrong at the end. it's murphy's law. |
| 17:53.32 | manu4543 | caroll: HI there, if dups are resolved in this meeting then why results on monday? |
| 17:53.32 | carols | and we need 2 days to fix it. |
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| 17:53.37 | carols | manu4543: see above. |
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| 17:54.12 | OpenMRS|r0bby | manu4543: carol has to do some last minute checks |
| 17:54.14 | shiffman | hello |
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| 17:54.19 | OpenMRS|r0bby | and for suspense |
| 17:54.21 | carols | and if you don't know who murphy is, i encourage you to look it up. it'll give you something to do while you're waiting for results. |
| 17:54.21 | shiffman | am i in the right place for the de-duplication meeting? |
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| 17:54.24 | carols | hi shiffman |
| 17:54.26 | carols | yes you are |
| 17:54.26 | codercube | carols : does it mean if nothing is wrong its possible to know the results during weekend? :) |
| 17:54.29 | shiffman | great! |
| 17:54.31 | carols | codercube: nope! |
| 17:54.32 | manu4543 | :) |
| 17:54.47 | gentoo|dberkholz | it means all of us get 2 days to relax before things get crazy again. |
| 17:54.53 | OpenMRS|r0bby | anything that can go wrong, DEFINITELY will go wrong |
| 17:54.56 | john_1_ | carols: what kind of problems usually occur? |
| 17:54.57 | liquid_galaxy|AV | <-- this the right nick format? |
| 17:54.58 | lak_ | how many total number of accepted proposals this year??? |
| 17:55.08 | carols | john_1_: all of them. at once. it's amazing. |
| 17:55.11 | sontek | We starting clans now? |
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| 17:55.16 | codercube | OpenMRS|r0bby : but maybe there s nothing that can go wrong.. |
| 17:55.17 | carols | lak_: we'll tell you on monday. |
| 17:55.25 | bretonium | 574 nicks |
| 17:55.29 | carols | liquid_galaxy|AV: yes |
| 17:55.42 | qheaden | starts getting anxious over April 23rd |
| 17:55.48 | OSGeo|aghisla | the dd/mm/yyyy argument was convincing too. |
| 17:55.53 | OpenMRS|r0bby | gets the wrench out and bangs on melange |
| 17:55.54 | codercube | well i guess 2 more sleepless nights |
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| 17:55.59 | OpenMRS|r0bby | *NOW* it will! |
| 17:56.08 | OpenMRS|r0bby | now sit and look pretty :D |
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| 17:56.35 | john_1_ | carols: then maybe it should be needed to improve the procedure to make sure that anything can go wrong |
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| 17:56.45 | carols | john_1_: agreed. patches welcome. |
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| 17:57.18 | john_1_ | carols: apply in gsoc next year lol |
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| 17:57.23 | OpenMRS|r0bby | john_1_: oh need I mention there will always be bugs because humans are inherently flawed |
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| 17:57.28 | carols | john_1_: im not eligible :-) |
| 17:57.39 | OpenMRS|r0bby | she's an employee of google |
| 17:57.48 | john_1_ | I know just kidding |
| 17:57.52 | codercube | OpenMRS|r0bby : then we should make robots write the code |
| 17:57.58 | dberkholz | wonder if anyone will try applying next year while enrolled for those stanford online courses |
| 17:58.02 | OpenMRS|r0bby | codercube: the robots will be flawed |
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| 17:58.19 | codercube | OpenMRS|r0bby : robots are pure logic, they can't be flawed |
| 17:58.36 | OpenMRS|r0bby | codercube: who programmed them? |
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| 17:58.40 | simonl | codercube: there could be issues with the logic? |
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| 17:59.08 | openwall|solar | dberkholz: do the stanford online courses make one eligible for gsoc? |
| 17:59.13 | codercube | simonl no, only with logic implementations |
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| 17:59.16 | OpenMRS|r0bby | yes |
| 17:59.19 | Kev|XSF | openwall|solar: No. |
| 17:59.23 | OpenMRS|r0bby | openwall|solar: they're students |
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| 17:59.28 | dsathe | wow after recent occourance it wouldn't be fair to say logic can't be flawed codercube |
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| 17:59.30 | OpenMRS|r0bby | IF they're registered |
| 17:59.33 | Kev|XSF | openwall|solar: As they're not students of Stanford. |
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| 17:59.44 | codercube | OpenMRS|r0bby : we should make robots program robots to program gsoc |
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| 17:59.48 | simonl | codercube: the implementation is the thing that counts! |
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| 17:59.57 | bretonium | random.choice(list_of_students).fail() |
| 18:00.09 | OpenMRS|r0bby | bretonium: that's evil |
| 18:00.10 | Makarov | ) |
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| 18:00.13 | simonl | bretonium: Thats not very nice |
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| 18:00.34 | nulltin | hi |
| 18:00.34 | lak_ | cant wait for till monday...and here it will be tuesday.........:) |
| 18:00.45 | carols | nulltin: hi |
| 18:00.48 | nulltin | !logs |
| 18:00.48 | gsocbot | nulltin: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 18:00.52 | OpenMRS|r0bby | I think we once crashed GAE |
| 18:00.54 | nulltin | carols: People pester you every year for the in b/w buffer time before the results and after the dedup or is this year special? :) |
| 18:01.00 | OpenMRS|r0bby | in 2009 LOL |
| 18:01.06 | carols | nulltin: happens every year. |
| 18:01.07 | dberkholz | Kev|XSF: i could argue the opposite side — that by enrolling in a course offered by stanford, they become a part-time stanford student |
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| 18:01.15 | carols | actually most things that happen during gsoc are the same every year. |
| 18:01.28 | Kev|XSF | dberkholz: Not given the terms, I don't think. |
| 18:01.38 | OpenMRS|r0bby | in 2009, when results were released, GAE was brought to its knees. |
| 18:01.38 | carols | the mentors list gets out of control and then goes quiet, the students ask if they're eligible, the students list goes out of control and then goes quiet…etc etc etc |
| 18:01.40 | emrecelikten | Last year there were students asking about what would happen if they died |
| 18:01.42 | OpenMRS|r0bby | fun fact |
| 18:01.43 | bretonium | even this way - while left > slots: random.choice(list_of_students).fail(); left -= 1; |
| 18:01.44 | Kev|XSF | dberkholz: They're quite explicit that you are not registering to be a student of Stanford or gaining any of the benefits thereof. |
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| 18:02.06 | bretonium | emrecelikten: by the way, what would happen? |
| 18:02.08 | dsathe | hahah emrecelikten :D |
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| 18:02.18 | shibulijack | hi :) |
| 18:02.19 | OpenMRS|r0bby | it annoys the heck out of me that students don't read. |
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| 18:02.25 | nulltin | carols: Ah, then you should go for automation and save a bit of hair-tearing. :) |
| 18:02.27 | john_1_ | I know an organization that lost a slot, is it reassigned? |
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| 18:02.32 | dberkholz | Kev|XSF: well, we could argue semantics about this all day but there's really no point. |
| 18:02.33 | emrecelikten | bretonium: They would get terminated I guess |
| 18:02.35 | nulltin | *more automation |
| 18:02.37 | carols | nulltin: patches welcome. |
| 18:02.39 | carols | but i can't code. |
| 18:03.06 | OpenMRS|r0bby | does carwheels |
| 18:03.12 | bretonium | emrecelikten: is it time to listen to the "Terminator" soundtrack now? |
| 18:03.15 | OSGeo|aghisla | renames GSoC in Google Summer of Carol |
| 18:03.17 | emrecelikten | Last time I checked corpses couldn't write code |
| 18:03.18 | Kev|XSF | carols: You could apply anyway, beginners are welcome! |
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| 18:03.35 | carols | Kev|XSF: right. because i need another time-consuming hobby :-P |
| 18:03.35 | emrecelikten | bretonium: Hehe |
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| 18:03.55 | OpenMRS|r0bby | people who whine about a gap in open source software -- need to code more and whine less :D |
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| 18:04.15 | Kev|XSF | OpenMRS|r0bby: That is, sadly, not possible for some of us. |
| 18:04.33 | OpenMRS|r0bby | Kev|XSF: why? |
| 18:04.38 | Kev|XSF | I have enough time to whine, but not to code more. |
| 18:04.54 | nulltin | OpenMRS|r0bby: Hey, I wasn't whining, more like empathizing with the amount of work carols has to do. |
| 18:05.05 | OpenMRS|r0bby | jus sayin! |
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| 18:05.42 | nulltin | OpenMRS|r0bby: Also, whining is fun! :D |
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| 18:06.00 | OpenMRS|r0bby | loads his cannon up |
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| 18:06.05 | OpenMRS|r0bby | aims it towards nulltin |
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| 18:06.22 | kblin | now, everybody be civil |
| 18:06.24 | OpenMRS|r0bby | (it fires beanbags -- don't worry carols!) |
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| 18:06.34 | Catroid|sercan | screams FIREEEEEEEEEE |
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| 18:06.41 | nulltin | whines about OpenMRS|r0bby 's threats to carols |
| 18:06.43 | thorinn | Do all first-time organizations get only 2 slots? |
| 18:06.45 | garyB | But people who wine about open source. Mostly reds. Those are who you want to stick with. |
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| 18:06.46 | carols | i used to work in a cube where nerd guns were getting shot over my head multiple times a day. |
| 18:06.50 | carols | engineers. |
| 18:06.50 | OpenMRS|r0bby | nulltin: what threat? |
| 18:06.53 | OpenMRS|r0bby | :D |
| 18:06.53 | codercube | opens beer |
| 18:06.55 | JRuby|headius | still no fedora folks here? |
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| 18:07.07 | openwall|solar | i an org only accepted students who have not applied to any other org, it can't be put in a dupe situation during the de-dupe meeting, right? so melange could notify the org and gsoc program admins that the org's presence is not required at the de-dupe meeting. that would be bad for the social aspect of the all-orgs meeting, though. |
| 18:07.12 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: let me guess: "compiling?" |
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| 18:07.23 | OpenNMS|sfb | JRuby|headius: Woh, blast from the past. I thought I recognized your name on the list. |
| 18:07.26 | carols | OpenMRS|r0bby: yep. got it in one. |
| 18:07.27 | JRuby|headius | I'm on the fence about our dupe with fedora, but if they don't even show up I'm inclined to just take the student |
| 18:07.35 | ChadWindnagle | Joomla folks in the house |
| 18:07.44 | JRuby|headius | OpenNMS|sfb: do you know me? |
| 18:07.46 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: xkcd had a comic to that effect |
| 18:07.55 | carols | OpenMRS|r0bby: i'm familiar with it. :-) |
| 18:07.56 | OpenNMS|sfb | JRuby|headius: I was friends with pezzy and all of those people. |
| 18:08.17 | ChadWindnagle | We aren't currently showing any duplicates in Melange. So hopefully I will observe most of this meeting :) |
| 18:08.18 | nulltin | OpenMRS|r0bby, carols : http://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 18:08.19 | JRuby|headius | OpenNMS|sfb: oh, nice :) I think that group qualifies as oldschool now |
| 18:08.24 | OpenNMS|sfb | haha indeed. |
| 18:08.27 | OpenMRS|r0bby | nulltin: I knw. |
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| 18:08.30 | carols | nulltin: i read xkcd, but thank you. |
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| 18:08.54 | openwall|solar | ...also, letting some orgs not attend the de-dupe could result in orgs favoring students who have not applied elsewhere |
| 18:08.56 | OpenNMS|sfb | JRuby|headius: Other than the fact that I worked with pezzy for a few years until last year I haven't talked to any of them in years. |
| 18:09.05 | OpenMRS|r0bby | nulltin: if you don't read xkcd, get out! |
| 18:09.06 | RTEMS|gedare | openwall|solar: the problem is during de-duplication a project can mark a student 'accept' and cause a duplicate with a student you have also marked 'accept' |
| 18:09.07 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> If you try to talk but can't, a meeting is in progress. | http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted organizations have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. | The student submission period has ended, good luck to everyone who applied! |
| 18:09.08 | cnx|reedstrm | we had a dupe w/ bioruby, but we resolved it by asking the student to rank their prefs, suitably coached as a hypothetical, of course. |
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| 18:09.24 | nulltin | OpenMRS|r0bby: I do, I'm good. |
| 18:09.29 | carols | kblin: you around? |
| 18:09.30 | cnx|reedstrm | We won ;-) |
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| 18:09.51 | OpenMRS|r0bby | godspeed. |
| 18:09.51 | openwall|solar | RTEMS|gedare: sure, that's why i wrote "if an org only accepted students who have not applied to any other org" |
| 18:09.52 | kblin | carols: aye |
| 18:10.13 | carols | kblin: just wanted to make sure you were willing to be my right hand today with regard to moderating the channel and voice |
| 18:10.16 | JRuby|headius | OpenNMS|sfb: I haven't either |
| 18:10.17 | carols | if not, please let me know now :-) |
| 18:10.19 | kblin | a couple of times, actually :) |
| 18:10.30 | kblin | carols: sure |
| 18:10.37 | carols | kblin: thanks so much :-) |
| 18:10.40 | carols | i owe you some schwag |
| 18:10.42 | fcerullo | carol |
| 18:10.43 | wine_kblin | waves at carols |
| 18:10.46 | worldforge_kblin | waves at carols |
| 18:10.47 | Enygma` | !next |
| 18:10.48 | gsocbot | Enygma`: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 18:10.49 | thorinn | Can anyone answer my question? Do all first - time organizations only get two slots? |
| 18:10.50 | samba_kblin | waves at carols |
| 18:10.52 | carols | haha nice :-) |
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| 18:11.00 | OpenMRS|r0bby | thorinn: no |
| 18:11.06 | OpenMRS|r0bby | !slots |
| 18:11.06 | gsocbot | OpenMRS|r0bby: "slots" is (#1) Slot allocation is done manually by Chris DiBona and Carol Smith, be a good org, play nice on the mentor list and #gsoc, ask for a non-crazy-high number of slots, and you'll probably get what you ask. Note that non-crazy-high for new orgs is around 1 or 2., or (#2) http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
| 18:11.09 | carols | thorinn: no. everyone and every year is different. |
| 18:11.14 | fcerullo | if we have agreed with other orgs |
| 18:11.20 | qheaden | So some accepted students will be announced today? |
| 18:11.25 | carols | qheaden: no |
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| 18:11.29 | OpenMRS|r0bby | qheaden: no. |
| 18:11.36 | qheaden | Okay. |
| 18:11.47 | OpenMRS|r0bby | nothing is official until monday. |
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| 18:11.53 | carols | i do so love saying "no." it's so satisfying. |
| 18:11.54 | fcerullo | how we are going to distribut the students |
| 18:11.58 | thorinn | Thank you |
| 18:12.05 | qheaden | So basically, the de-duplication resolution is between mentors? |
| 18:12.21 | fcerullo | is there anything else we have to do? |
| 18:12.22 | carols | qheaden: org admins and mentors, yes. |
| 18:12.22 | OpenMRS|r0bby | qheaden: org admins |
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| 18:12.33 | OpenMRS|r0bby | org admins usually contact mentors etc |
| 18:12.36 | openwall|solar | my guess is that maybe 10% to 20% of orgs can't _technically_ be put in a dupe situation during the de-dupe, and melange could detect that. but like i said letting those orgs not attend the de-dupe is not necessarily good for other reasons. |
| 18:12.38 | OpenMRS|r0bby | sometimes the student gets to choose |
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| 18:12.54 | nulltin | carols: You said a yes. :D |
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| 18:12.59 | qheaden | So in the cases the student gets to choose, he/she will be notified? |
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| 18:13.07 | OpenMRS|r0bby | qheaden: yes |
| 18:13.09 | carols | nulltin: indeed i did. |
| 18:13.15 | OpenMRS|r0bby | up to the org |
| 18:13.19 | carols | qheaden: all those conversations have already happened if they were going to. |
| 18:13.21 | jikr | how can I find out that we have a conflict with other organisation? In melange there is written "Pending acceptance" in green, I gues it is good, right? |
| 18:13.23 | carols | this meeting is just about the final cut. |
| 18:13.35 | qheaden | Ahh ok. Thanks a lot for all of you guys help. |
| 18:13.36 | carols | jikr: it will say duplicate if there is one. |
| 18:13.39 | lak_ | this is gsocmania:-) |
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| 18:13.43 | qheaden | :) |
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| 18:13.48 | OpenMRS|r0bby | jikr: it will say Duplicate |
| 18:13.50 | OpenMRS|r0bby | in read |
| 18:13.52 | jikr | thanks, carol |
| 18:14.00 | carols | yw |
| 18:14.01 | OpenMRS|r0bby | if you don't see that you're good. |
| 18:14.08 | jikr | so it is necessary to be there for the dedup meeting if we have no duplicates? |
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| 18:14.19 | OpenMRS|r0bby | yes |
| 18:14.23 | braverock|R | jikr: yes |
| 18:14.24 | Catroid|sercan | yes |
| 18:14.24 | assaframan_OGRE | Can you guys add your project name as a suffix to your nickname? it will help us all know who is who... |
| 18:14.25 | carols | jikr: yes |
| 18:14.27 | carols | as per my email. |
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| 18:14.29 | jikr | ok |
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| 18:14.30 | OpenMRS|r0bby | because in re-shuffling -- dupes can happen |
| 18:14.31 | dberkholz | prefix, please. |
| 18:14.33 | dberkholz | not suffix |
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| 18:14.40 | jikr | oh, I see |
| 18:14.42 | assaframan_OGRE | ok |
| 18:14.45 | spacegaier-OGRE | what is the reason for everyone being here, even if there are now duplicates? |
| 18:14.46 | nulltin | Another yes. |
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| 18:14.53 | OSGeo|aghisla | "GSoC Deduplication meeting - free food for admins" |
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| 18:15.04 | carols | spacegaier-OGRE: my email explains all this. |
| 18:15.06 | dberkholz | s/food/beer and i'd be all over that. not in grad school anymore |
| 18:15.07 | cnx|reedstrm | carols: perhaps put the answer to that FAQ in the chat description? |
| 18:15.19 | OpenMRS|r0bby | Reading skills -- we have them I assume! |
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| 18:15.28 | carols | cnx|reedstrm: answer to what? |
| 18:15.45 | ChadWindnagle | Free food and beer? I'm glad I'm here! |
| 18:15.47 | OSGeo|aghisla | dberkholz: chocolate had so much success at the mentor summit :) |
| 18:15.51 | cnx|reedstrm | carols: Ah, the "if I have no dupes do I need to be here" |
| 18:15.52 | Catroid|sercan | OSGeo|aghisla i thought it were T-Shirts! damn |
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| 18:15.57 | OGRE|AssafRaman | I added my project name as a prefix |
| 18:15.58 | OpenNMS|sfb | OpenMRS|r0bby: I read that in Samuel L Jacksons vioce, "READING SKILLS, DO YOU HAVE THEM" |
| 18:16.01 | carols | cnx|reedstrm: that was already called out in my email to the mentors. |
| 18:16.02 | cnx|reedstrm | I've seen it 5 times in 10 mins I think :-) |
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| 18:16.15 | OpenMRS|r0bby | OpenNMS|sfb: whatever gets the point across I guess =) |
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| 18:16.17 | carols | if they're asking it's because i'm giving them mental demerits at this point. |
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| 18:16.30 | OpenNMS|sfb | OpenMRS|r0bby: I love how confusingly similar our org names are. |
| 18:16.31 | JRuby|headius | when is this supposed to officially start? I thought it was 19:00 UTC |
| 18:16.33 | apertium|dbp-spo | nuts |
| 18:16.37 | OpenMRS|r0bby | yes I know! |
| 18:16.39 | cnx|reedstrm | carols: hehe |
| 18:16.40 | apertium|dbp-spo | I'm here for 2 orgs |
| 18:16.43 | OpenNMS|sfb | OpenMRS|r0bby: Just FYI. |
| 18:16.46 | OpenNMS|sfb | JRuby|headius: About 45 mins |
| 18:16.51 | thorinn | Has the number of slots for each org already been defined? Is that info available to students? |
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| 18:17.01 | carols | thorinn: yes and no |
| 18:17.09 | Bidik | can someone explain the strange email from GSOC with sujbect Thank you for appliayin and body: None i got yesterday ? |
| 18:17.11 | dberkholz | apertium|dbp-spo: many irc clients support multiple connections to the same server |
| 18:17.14 | gentoo|dberkholz | apertium|dbp-spo: like this |
| 18:17.18 | ajedwards | jpf_oksana, how many slots did jpf receive this year? |
| 18:17.19 | apertium|dbp-spo | aha |
| 18:17.20 | dzhus | !emails | Bidik |
| 18:17.20 | JRuby|headius | oh, eu summer time must be +2 then |
| 18:17.20 | gsocbot | Bidik: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 18:17.21 | JRuby|headius | ok |
| 18:17.32 | JRuby|headius | I'm on the road |
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| 18:17.52 | Bidik | dzhus, thank you :P |
| 18:17.53 | garyB | Hopefully, most orgs that had duplicates just resolved it last night ... for those of us with a day job. Easy to ask the student: who do you really love? 'been jilted again but the dupe is gone. |
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| 18:18.06 | hiddenpearls | how many slots phpMyAdmin got this year ? |
| 18:18.08 | OpenMRS|r0bby | Slots aren't really something we should be discussing... |
| 18:18.17 | carols | hiddenpearls: did you ask them? |
| 18:18.23 | OpenMRS|r0bby | hey mprut|sahana -- other way around sahana|nick |
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| 18:18.33 | JRuby|headius | I've had three dupes for eight slots |
| 18:18.36 | JRuby|headius | sigh |
| 18:18.39 | dzhus | any Haskell.org people here? |
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| 18:18.52 | OpenMRS|r0bby | any xanax? |
| 18:18.54 | cnx|reedstrm | JRuby|headius: you ruby people are popular this year |
| 18:18.59 | dberkholz | JRuby|headius: we got nailed like that last year. think gentoo had like 5 dupes out of 19, ended up just giving away slots in the end. |
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| 18:19.03 | OpenMRS|r0bby | that's what SHE said! |
| 18:19.03 | climatecode|nb | !anyone | dzhus |
| 18:19.03 | gsocbot | dzhus: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. Try searching for the org's contact info or even just try a /join #<mentoring org here> |
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| 18:19.13 | dberkholz | JRuby|headius: rather than accepting mediocre students |
| 18:19.19 | carols | OpenMRS|r0bby: not appropriate. |
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| 18:19.25 | JRuby|headius | dberkholz: we might give this last dupe slot away if we can't keep him, but I think fedora is willing to give him up |
| 18:19.28 | kblin | ah, carols beat me to it |
| 18:19.34 | ajedwards | haha |
| 18:19.35 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: sorry! |
| 18:19.37 | MatthewWilkes | love you all |
| 18:19.38 | dnolen | is this where supposed to be for reduplication? |
| 18:19.40 | lak_ | is there any chances of declaring results beforehand, probably before 23rd April??? |
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| 18:19.52 | dnolen | er supposed to be for deduplication |
| 18:19.54 | climatecode|nb | lak_ : no. |
| 18:19.56 | carols | dnolen: if you mean deduplication yes |
| 18:19.57 | kblin | I hope deduplication :) |
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| 18:19.59 | nulltin | MatthewWilkes: Why? |
| 18:20.01 | carols | lak_: no |
| 18:20.04 | Catroid|sercan | I liked reduplication :D |
| 18:20.09 | dnolen | @carols: great thanks |
| 18:20.13 | Catroid|sercan | that would be really fun |
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| 18:20.32 | Python|Arc | what is the channel for the de-dup meeting? |
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| 18:20.38 | crystalspace|we | liked the reduplication :D |
| 18:20.39 | cnx|reedstrm | if we could reduplicate the students w/ collisions - - quick call genetech! |
| 18:20.40 | OpenNMS|sfb | Python|Arc: Here I believe. |
| 18:20.41 | carols | Python|Arc: you're in it |
| 18:20.43 | dberkholz | lak_: out of curiosity, how many times are you planning to ask the same question different ways? |
| 18:20.45 | Python|Arc | awesome. |
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| 18:21.02 | climatecode|nb | If GSoC kicked people out for lack of reading skills, it would be a very different organisation. |
| 18:21.13 | ajedwards | climatecode|nb, perhaps for the better |
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| 18:21.17 | OpenNMS|sfb | hahaha |
| 18:21.18 | OpenMRS|r0bby | climatecode|nb: it happens naturally |
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| 18:21.29 | climatecode|nb | ajedwards: but I would probably have been kicked out once or twice. |
| 18:21.32 | xapian|parth_ | the meeting is in about 30 minutes right? |
| 18:21.36 | climatecode|nb | (and once for stupidity, too). |
| 18:21.37 | carols | xapian|parth_: yes |
| 18:21.38 | OpenNMS|sfb | Well, with students I did state that "being able to find and follow directions" was a requirement. |
| 18:21.41 | lak_ | its gsoc mania...i blame it...:-) |
| 18:21.41 | NetBSD|spz | one of our students got accepted for all 4 proposals he wrote. Some people should really be run through the copier machine :} |
| 18:21.46 | OpenMRS|r0bby | the good students do their due diligence |
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| 18:22.04 | carols | NetBSD|spz: a good problem to have :-) |
| 18:22.04 | OpenNMS|sfb | aka don't email the list asking how to build in Eclipse when Googling "opennms eclipse" yields this very document as like the first match. |
| 18:22.08 | ajedwards | climatecode|nb, haha... students should be set the task of finding how to apply... make it hidden and cut the spam! :) |
| 18:22.12 | wolfc | carols: do we still have time after dedup to designate other proposals? |
| 18:22.12 | svuorela | NetBSD|spz: git add person ; git commit ; git clone ... |
| 18:22.19 | carols | wolfc: designate? |
| 18:22.23 | carols | i don't understand what you mean. |
| 18:22.25 | openwall|solar | NetBSD|spz: how do you know he didn't write more than 4? |
| 18:22.26 | kblin | NetBSD|spz: but he'd have the same 100% success rate if he had only applied for one org ;) |
| 18:22.29 | OpenMRS|r0bby | NetBSD|spz: that is a good student! |
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| 18:22.51 | wolfc | carols: from pending to pending acceptance |
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| 18:23.11 | carols | wolfc: um, you should have already done that about two hours ago. |
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| 18:23.22 | dberkholz | i think he means replacing a de-duped slot if you lose the student |
| 18:23.23 | cnx|reedstrm | it has been quite the firehose of info, but I tried to prioritize emails from carols |
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| 18:23.44 | dzhus | gsoc might have ACHIEVEMENT SYSTEM, u know like in minecraft or like |
| 18:23.46 | kblin | wolfc: you do that during dedup if you need to resolve a dup |
| 18:23.57 | NetBSD|spz | solar: I asked which proposals he wrote |
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| 18:24.08 | carols | cnx|reedstrm: a lot of people just filter for "from:carols@google.com" and trash everything else. |
| 18:24.08 | climatecode|nb | ajedwards: could make CodeJam a prerequisite . . . . |
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| 18:24.30 | gentoo|dberkholz | i have a gmail filter that marks as important from:google.com or any of the melange devs |
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| 18:24.45 | NetBSD|spz | wouldn't have minded much if he'd picked one of the other projects, they were all Usefull to Add to the Pool :) |
| 18:24.46 | openwall|solar | this year we have application from a student who claimed he applied only to us, yet it turned out that he also applied to another org |
| 18:24.47 | cnx|reedstrm | carols: well, they miss some good stuff that way. |
| 18:25.01 | climatecode|nb | just as I said: we all get our pipes out. |
| 18:25.07 | OpenMRS|r0bby | I removed myself from the student list on carol's request |
| 18:25.11 | buffyg | carols: May I PM you? |
| 18:25.13 | carols | cnx|reedstrm: well, useful information is different from emails that are strictly entertaining to read and shake your head at :-) |
| 18:25.14 | OpenMRS|r0bby | kinda glad :/ |
| 18:25.16 | OpenMRS|r0bby | er :) |
| 18:25.19 | carols | buffyg: yes you may. thanks for asking. |
| 18:25.38 | cnx|reedstrm | Also, since we sized our slot request based on mentoring resources, we've been effectively 300-400% overloaded this week on student interaction |
| 18:25.42 | OpenMRS|r0bby | just...sad -- you guys have to notice Robby O'Connor is the top poster aside from lh! |
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| 18:25.45 | OpenMRS|r0bby | and carol! |
| 18:25.46 | kblin | procmail flags @google.com senders' mails as important |
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| 18:25.56 | aadi_025 | @carols:-is meeting arrange on this same irc |
| 18:25.57 | aadi_025 | ? |
| 18:25.59 | OpenMRS|r0bby | I think I still have that.. |
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| 18:26.02 | dberkholz | openwall|solar: wonder what kind of mis-licensed, legally questionable code a student like that might incorporate into the project later on... |
| 18:26.06 | carols | aadi_025: yes, it's here. |
| 18:26.19 | aadi_025 | exited |
| 18:26.23 | aadi_025 | excited |
| 18:26.25 | aadi_025 | :P |
| 18:26.26 | cnx|reedstrm | carols: indeed priority is carols > potential students > other mentors |
| 18:26.31 | climatecode|nb | While we wait, I'm going to start drafting our 2013 ideas page. |
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| 18:27.09 | OpenMRS|r0bby | ohh hai their Bloomington|ingh! |
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| 18:27.30 | arpitgyl | Meeting for duplication will start in half an hour right |
| 18:27.33 | OGRE|AssafRaman | can one of the admin of this channel can update the title to include that the nick should have the project name as a prefix, and the info about the upcomming meeting ("the meeting will be in this channel" and such...) |
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| 18:27.42 | gevaerts | arpitgyl: yes |
| 18:27.46 | ChadWindnagle | @carols - I'm the org admin from Joomla. We don't have any duplicates listed in Melange. I know this is the de-dupe meeting. Do I need to "do" anything right now, or just sit tight? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something. |
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| 18:28.13 | JRuby|headius | how many total slots were there? |
| 18:28.14 | Lennie | ChadWindnagle, sit tight :) |
| 18:28.23 | OpenMRS|r0bby | Do I have tgime to go to the bathroom? |
| 18:28.32 | OpenMRS|r0bby | before dedupe? |
| 18:28.40 | MatthewWilkes | OpenMRS|r0bby: No. Hold it. |
| 18:28.46 | Tor|Sebastian | dedupe is in half an hour |
| 18:28.46 | Python|Arc | ChadWindnagle: change your nick, just because there are no duplicates yet doesn't mean there won't be after other duplicates resolve and new students get assigned |
| 18:28.48 | Catroid|sercan | OpenMRS|r0bby: depends |
| 18:28.48 | JRuby|headius | hah |
| 18:28.48 | climatecode|nb | OpenMRS|r0bby: depends how long you take. We have 32 minutes.... |
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| 18:28.51 | shibulijack | lol |
| 18:29.05 | JRuby|headius | perhaps the bathroom is four miles away |
| 18:29.08 | OpenMRS|r0bby | im good |
| 18:29.16 | carols | really? do we need to be discussing the bathroom, everyone? |
| 18:29.24 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Deduplication meeting in here, if you can't talk, the meeting is in progress. | please change your name to org|nick for easier identification | http://www.google-melange.com Google Summer of Code 2012 has started! Accepted organizations have been announced. You can check out the timeline: http://goo.gl/FQb2b and the FAQs: http://goo.gl/Lh4R8 for more information. | The student submissio |
| 18:29.27 | ofan_ | Is there anyway to know whether I'm accepted? |
| 18:29.28 | carols | can we just keep it on topic, please? |
| 18:29.32 | carols | ofan_: on monday, yes. |
| 18:29.48 | Joomla | @Python|Arc - thanks for the tip. Done. |
| 18:29.49 | ofan_ | carols: Thanks. |
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| 18:29.52 | OGRE|AssafRaman | thanks. good work kblin. |
| 18:29.52 | carols | yw |
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| 18:31.33 | kblin | actually, feel free to use any identifiably separator |
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| 18:32.16 | kblin | I just didn't want to make the topic more complicated and | seemed to be the popular choice |
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| 18:32.38 | climatecode|nb | last year we were told to use | |
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| 18:32.55 | lglira-ecidadani | Hi |
| 18:33.00 | kblin | I'm not changing three nicks ;) |
| 18:33.07 | Arjun05 | Haha |
| 18:33.07 | carols | lglira-ecidadani: hi |
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| 18:33.18 | dberkholz | hmm, that makes me want to find a weird one |
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| 18:33.47 | Fedora|bckurera | . |
| 18:33.47 | gevaerts | dberkholz: unicode invisible space |
| 18:33.54 | OpenMRS|r0bby | looks around |
| 18:34.20 | gevaerts | suspects non-ascii might not work actually |
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| 18:34.39 | dberkholz | sure it would, if people have their encodings set right. |
| 18:34.44 | lglira-ecidadani | When the depublication meeting start??? |
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| 18:34.53 | OpenMRS|r0bby | 25 mins |
| 18:34.57 | gentoo|dberkholz | this work? |
| 18:35.07 | gentoo|dberkholz | nope, guess not. |
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| 18:36.11 | Fedora|bckurera | Can Drupal pm me please? |
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| 18:36.41 | shibulijack | can students applying for an org change their nick to name|org? |
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| 18:36.56 | Python|Arc | im pretty sure thats just for identifying mentors |
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| 18:37.08 | kblin | what'd be the point? |
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| 18:37.10 | gevaerts | That would be misleading I think |
| 18:37.11 | crystalspace|wel | it's for mentors in the deduplication meeting |
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| 18:37.15 | OpenMRS|r0bby | shibulijack: no, this is for mentors |
| 18:37.24 | shibulijack | Thought so. |
| 18:37.26 | OpenMRS|r0bby | (and org admins) |
| 18:37.30 | dberkholz | i was all ready to use HEXAGRAM FOR WORK ON THE DECAYED (䷑) as my separator but i guess freenode doesn't support it. |
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| 18:37.43 | OpenMRS|r0bby | dberkholz: fails |
| 18:37.50 | OpenMRS|r0bby | pidgin FTL |
| 18:37.54 | OGRE|AssafRaman | I recommend to students to have "Student|" prefix |
| 18:37.55 | kernelorg|meflin | you cant use . either :D |
| 18:38.01 | Fedora|bckurera | I though this meeting is only for mentors? |
| 18:38.07 | Catroid|sercan | why not use the love hotel? :D |
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| 18:38.23 | carols | Fedora|bckurera: it's only mentors who need to be here. but students are welcome to observe. |
| 18:38.28 | kblin | Fedora|bckurera: we'll mute the channel in a bit |
| 18:38.30 | openwall|solar | recalls binary-patching an irc client in 1990s to support 8-bit chars - was unwilling to wait for the rebuild from source to complete |
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| 18:38.52 | climatecode|nb | openwall|solar:should have written it in Lisp. |
| 18:39.06 | OpenMRS|r0bby | dies from ((((()))))))) |
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| 18:39.20 | NetBSD|spz | solar: heh. what architecture? |
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| 18:39.45 | crystalspace|wel | adds some () |
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| 18:39.57 | carols | meeting starts in 20 minutes everyone. |
| 18:39.57 | lglira-ecidadani | hi in ecidadania we have a deduplication but I dont know what is the other org??? |
| 18:40.00 | cnx|reedstrm | dberkholz: I see it ䷑ (but it won't take it in the nick?) |
| 18:40.04 | carols | make sure you have a good seat. |
| 18:40.08 | carols | lglira-ecidadani: its on the proposal. |
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| 18:40.13 | openwall|solar | NetBSD|spz: nothing fancy - linux/x86, 386dx-40 |
| 18:40.27 | Kev|XSF | lglira-ecidadani: The other org's mail addresses will be at the top of the application. |
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| 18:40.49 | dberkholz | cnx|reedstrm: exactly. nicks require irc server support. |
| 18:40.49 | Tux4Kids|aadi_02 | so how to identify mentor or student |
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| 18:40.56 | kblin | carols: I'm sitting in a theatre, does that count? ;) |
| 18:40.56 | NetBSD|spz | solar: ah, you tended to impatience :) |
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| 18:41.09 | crystalspace|wel | mentors have the org in their nick |
| 18:41.12 | carols | kblin: yes :-) |
| 18:41.13 | OpenMRS|r0bby | go go gadget water |
| 18:41.16 | cnx|reedstrm | opinion: abbrev. orgname or nick? |
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| 18:41.32 | Fedora|bckurera | @carols coffee?? |
| 18:41.33 | nulltin | kblin: Any good movie o? |
| 18:41.35 | nulltin | *on |
| 18:41.42 | carols | Fedora|bckurera: yes, i've had it. thanks :-) |
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| 18:42.28 | JRuby|headius | yay, my last dupe is resolved...hopefully no more pop up tonight |
| 18:42.29 | cnx|reedstrm | Tux4Kids|aadi_02: mentors/admins can make changes in melange ... only way to know for sure |
| 18:42.37 | osarrat | Hi everyone! For any question or duplicate issue regarding the #sigmah project, please feel free to ask. |
| 18:42.41 | wannabe-haskelle | erm |
| 18:42.42 | kblin | nulltin: a real theatre |
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| 18:42.46 | OpenMRS|r0bby | hopefully no dupes other than our one dupe |
| 18:42.47 | Tux4Kids|aadi_02 | ok |
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| 18:42.56 | OpenMRS|r0bby | which is resolved =D |
| 18:42.56 | kblin | nulltin: there's a rehearsal going on |
| 18:42.59 | proposed-to-hask | meh |
| 18:43.14 | nulltin | kblin: Ah, nice. Shakespeare? :-D |
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| 18:43.18 | Fedora|bckurera | JRuby|headius seems like you have a tough time ! |
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| 18:43.22 | proposed-to-hask | Twas Brillig… |
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| 18:43.54 | kblin | nulltin: equus, by peter shaffer |
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| 18:44.13 | gevaerts | kblin: sounds like horseplay to me |
| 18:44.16 | cnx|reedstrm | osarrat: seems the idea nick should be org|nick so: sigmah|osarrat |
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| 18:45.05 | sarafnikit | !logs |
| 18:45.05 | gsocbot | sarafnikit: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 18:45.21 | pulseaudio|Ford_ | That sucked |
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| 18:45.24 | sigmah|osarrat | Thanks for the advise... I read the hint after posting my first message... |
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| 18:45.59 | KentB_ | is the de-dupe meeting in this room or is there a separate room? |
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| 18:46.08 | kblin | KentB_: see topic |
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| 18:46.12 | nulltin | kblin: Horses and psychiatrists. Have a good time. :) |
| 18:46.12 | ScummVM|Stranger | KentB_: No, it's there |
| 18:46.13 | climatecode|nb | takes gevaerts out and shoots him for that pun. |
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| 18:46.19 | cnx|reedstrm | pulseaudio|Ford_: I'm there w/ ya. org is actually Connexions ... |
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| 18:46.56 | pulse|Ford_Prefe | That sucks just a little less :) |
| 18:47.03 | pulse|Ford_Prefe | cnx|reedstrm: thanks, good idea :) |
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| 18:47.19 | kblin | pulse|Ford_Prefe: as long as you know where your towel is |
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| 18:47.40 | carols | meeting in less than 15 minutes :-) |
| 18:47.44 | Tux4Kids|Cheezme | Towels for everybody. |
| 18:47.51 | shana | sits up |
| 18:47.55 | IDI|greggy | . |
| 18:48.00 | Catroid|sercan | I'd love a gsoc towel! |
| 18:48.04 | cnx|reedstrm | pulse|Ford_Prefe: keeps people from asking you about your Mustang ... |
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| 18:48.22 | openwall|solar | i think it's better to abbreviate the person's nick rather than the org name. otherwise it may be more difficult to find you to give you voice during the meeting. |
| 18:48.24 | atuljangra | gsoc towel !! :) |
| 18:48.29 | proKrammer | also would love a towel, the present one stinks |
| 18:48.33 | pulse|Ford_Prefe | Catroid|sercan: ++! |
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| 18:48.37 | pulse|Ford_Prefe | cnx|reedstrm: :)) |
| 18:48.44 | osuosl|gchaix | actually *reads* the /topic :-) |
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| 18:48.49 | ruaok|metabrainz | someone please remind me: how do we know if we have dupes? all of our apps are listed as "pending acceptance" |
| 18:48.49 | ruaok|metabrainz | |
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| 18:48.59 | carols | ruaok|metabrainz: it will say duplicate in red. |
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| 18:49.07 | cnx|reedstrm | openwall|solar: Hmm, good point |
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| 18:49.17 | ruaok|metabrainz | carols: ah, thanks. |
| 18:49.20 | Mono|shana | fails reading comprehension |
| 18:49.25 | carols | meeting in 10 minutes |
| 18:49.27 | lglira-ecidadani | Hi I am from ecidadania we have a duplicate students, I need to talk with someone from BlueZ !!!! |
| 18:49.34 | ruaok|metabrainz | in that case, we can just bug out and not clutter the channel. :) |
| 18:49.40 | carols | lglira-ecidadani: it will all be resolved. deep breaths. |
| 18:49.45 | Connexions|reeds | will just live w/ it |
| 18:49.46 | carols | ruaok|metabrainz: you still have to be here. |
| 18:49.47 | climatecode|nb | ruaok|metabrainz: during the dedupe, you might find you acquire a dupe. |
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| 18:49.50 | carols | as per my email. |
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| 18:50.00 | hedgewars|Xeli | will mentors, rather than admins, be able to see the red 'duplicate' aswell? |
| 18:50.00 | carols | now knows no one reads my emails. |
| 18:50.10 | ruaok|metabrainz | stands at attention and clicks his heels |
| 18:50.13 | gevaerts | read carols' email! |
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| 18:50.17 | MatthewWilkes | carols: You send emails? |
| 18:50.23 | carols | gevaerts: thanks gevaerts :-) |
| 18:50.25 | Mono|shana | reads! |
| 18:50.25 | bretonium | what, carols send emails? |
| 18:50.26 | carols | MatthewWilkes: thanks man. thanks. |
| 18:50.30 | bretonium | *sends |
| 18:50.33 | OpenMRS|r0bby | MatthewWilkes: she never sends emails |
| 18:50.34 | Wikimedia|sumana | reads the emails. |
| 18:50.35 | carols | you are all terrible. |
| 18:50.35 | climatecode|nb | I get Rupert Murdoch to read mine for me. |
| 18:50.35 | gevaerts | carols: pity I'm not actually involved :) |
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| 18:50.40 | Mono|shana | I just fail reading comprehension depending on the amount of coffee on my system |
| 18:50.42 | Lennie | I think it's time for moderation :P? |
| 18:50.43 | NRNB|Alex | reads *every* email on mentors mailing list... |
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| 18:50.52 | Lennie | so much activity :D |
| 18:50.55 | Mono|shana | Lennie: everyone will soon have no voice |
| 18:50.59 | Tux4Kids|aadi_02 | what type of mail ? |
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| 18:51.10 | kblin | hm, durn, of course at this point my connection starts getting flakey |
| 18:51.13 | Mono|shana | Tux4Kids|aadi_02: !snailmail |
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| 18:51.18 | Connexions|reeds | NRNB|Alex: has more hours in their day than I do |
| 18:51.26 | OpenMRS|r0bby | MY CONNECTION may act flakey |
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| 18:51.38 | OGRE|AssafRaman | I don't know if this has been asked before, so sorry if I am re-asking something, but is it possible to do the most at the beginning of the meeting to release from the meeting projects that don't have duplicates? |
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| 18:51.46 | garyB | T-9 |
| 18:51.50 | Kev|XSF | !logs |
| 18:51.50 | gsocbot | Kev|XSF: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 18:51.50 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Hm, I only have 1142 emails from you, it feels like more. I do read them, though. Honest. |
| 18:51.58 | Mono|shana | OGRE|AssafRaman: it's not going to take long |
| 18:52.02 | carols | MatthewWilkes: you're very kind. |
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| 18:52.12 | osuosl|gchaix | OGRE|AssafRaman: it's possible in the shuffle that you'll acquire a dupe |
| 18:52.13 | carols | Lennie: can you moderate the channel in the event kblin loses his connection? |
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| 18:52.30 | pulse|Ford_Prefe | o/ Wikimedia|sumana |
| 18:52.30 | OpenMRS|r0bby | carols: do I still have the reign as the most verbose student on the students list? I removed myself :/ |
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| 18:52.39 | carols | OpenMRS|r0bby: i don't know. |
| 18:52.44 | Wesnoth|Noy | Didn't we have less than 10 last year? |
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| 18:52.50 | OpenMRS|r0bby | just curious |
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| 18:52.58 | kblin | It's usually coming back quickly, and I've got a backup :) |
| 18:53.03 | carols | kblin: ok cool :-) |
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| 18:53.11 | Lennie | carols, I think kblin will do fine |
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| 18:53.16 | carols | thanks Lennie |
| 18:53.17 | Makarov | #nick Orange|Makarov |
| 18:53.22 | carols | just giving myself redundancy |
| 18:53.22 | Makarov | /nick Orange|Makarov |
| 18:53.24 | Tux4Kids|aadi_02 | so can we start meeting |
| 18:53.25 | Tux4Kids|aadi_02 | ? |
| 18:53.28 | Lennie | You can poke me if things go wrong :0 |
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| 18:53.46 | carols | Tux4Kids|aadi_02: yes, in 7 minutes. |
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| 18:54.20 | kai_andy | There. |
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| 18:55.11 | carols | 5 minutes folks. |
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| 18:55.13 | OpenMRS|r0bby | how does this work |
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| 18:55.24 | sontek | do I need to change my name or can I just tell you i'm from pylons? |
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| 18:55.35 | Python|Arc | OpenMRS|r0bby: begin with RFC 1459 and work your way back from there? |
| 18:55.41 | XSF|Kev | sontek: Changing your name is going to be much more convenient. |
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| 18:55.43 | Connexions|reeds | prepares to refresh melange proposals page |
| 18:55.46 | carols | sontek: you don't *have* to change your nick. it just makes it easier. |
| 18:55.47 | OpenMRS|r0bby | Python|Arc: har har |
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| 18:55.50 | Gentoo|jbartosik | sontek: Change your name to org|nick (see /topic) |
| 18:55.51 | kblin | sontek: with some many people in here, it makes things easier |
| 18:55.54 | climatecode|nb | it's just like a BBS, only new-fangled. |
| 18:55.55 | OpenMRS|r0bby | I know that actually |
| 18:55.57 | Python|Arc | sontek: Python|sontek |
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| 18:56.20 | Connexions|reeds | sontek: try /nick pylons|sontek |
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| 18:57.41 | OpenMRS|r0bby | OpenMRS|downey: you're back! |
| 18:57.42 | ScummVM|Stranger | LinuxFoundation-: too long |
| 18:57.44 | OGRE|AssafRaman | It feels like being in the mentors summit :-) |
| 18:57.45 | Connexions|reeds | PostgreSQL|thom: good choice :-) |
| 18:57.47 | LinuxFoundation- | ah |
| 18:57.56 | nulltin | grabs a seat and some popcorn. |
| 18:57.56 | student|dzhus | LinuxFoundation-: that's the server rejecting >16 chars nicks |
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| 18:57.58 | LF|licquia | there we go |
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| 18:58.13 | kblin | there we go |
| 18:58.24 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 18:58.26 | kblin | carols: the stage is yours :) |
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| 18:58.31 | carols | the meeting starts in 2 minutes, folks. |
| 18:58.50 | carols | please read the topic if you need instructions, otherwise i will lay out how the meeting will run in 2 minutes. |
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| 18:59.53 | carols | just one minute |
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| 19:00.18 | carols | ====Begin GSoC 2012 IRC Deduplication Meeting==== |
| 19:00.23 | carols | Hi everyone, thank you for attending this deduplication meeting. I know you are all taking time out of your day to be here, and I will try to keep this as short as is possible. |
| 19:00.30 | carols | I just want to lay out the ground rules now and make sure everyone's clear and then we'll get into it. |
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| 19:00.35 | carols | **When your org is called, please PM kblin for voice.** |
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| 19:00.45 | carols | 1. If you know the preference of your student in a duplicate situation now, that's great. However, we are assuming from this point forward that if a student applied to two or more organizations that he or she would be happy to work from any of them. Decisions will be quick and you will not have time to email or IM the student now for preferences. |
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| 19:00.51 | carols | 2. I will give all orgs in a duplicate situation the opportunity to resolve amongst themselves in this meeting. However, if no resolution can be found in under 2 minutes, I will make the choice. |
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| 19:00.57 | carols | 3. All decisions made in this meeting are FINAL and logged. I will not make changes to the decisions from this meeting for any reason. |
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| 19:01.03 | carols | 4. For all members of organizations here right now, please keep in mind that all student proposals you wish to accept MUST have a mentor assigned to them now. If they do not they will not be accepted. Please take this opportunity to check the list and make sure you have a mentor assigned to all proposals you wish to accept. |
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| 19:01.09 | carols | 5. I will need to rerun the duplicate checker manually after we've gone through the whole list of current duplicates, so please stay around for that even once we've gotten through the whole list. |
| 19:01.15 | carols | 6. Finally, once we have gotten through all the duplicate situations I will be re-running our slot allocation checker and making sure there are no organizations using more or less slots than they've been allocated. Your org will be called on if it is in one of these situations, since we must resolve these now as well. |
| 19:01.21 | carols | With that, let's get started! |
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| 19:01.43 | carols | first up, i need admins for freebsd and minix3, please. |
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| 19:01.53 | carols | kblin let me know when you have got them |
| 19:01.56 | carols | sips some tea |
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| 19:02.15 | carols | hi freebsd-brooks |
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| 19:02.22 | carols | we'll just wait for the minix folks |
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| 19:02.36 | freebsd-brooks | carols: ok |
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| 19:02.49 | carols | they get another minute to respond :-) |
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| 19:03.25 | carols | minix? anyone? |
| 19:03.26 | carols | kblin? |
| 19:03.35 | kblin | no msg yet |
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| 19:03.41 | carols | ok, counting down |
| 19:03.44 | carols | going once |
| 19:03.52 | carols | going twice |
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| 19:04.11 | carols | going three times. jesse h goes to freebsd. |
| 19:04.16 | freebsd-brooks | carols: thanks |
| 19:04.17 | carols | let me just change that |
| 19:04.35 | carols | ok, moving on. |
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| 19:04.48 | carols | i need gstreamer and gnome admins, please. |
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| 19:04.53 | carols | sips some more tea |
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| 19:05.13 | kai_andy | Hang on |
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| 19:05.17 | carols | sure. |
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| 19:05.43 | carols | streamer or gnome admins can pm me too if necessary if kblin is hard to contact. |
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| 19:05.54 | kblin | no msg yet |
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| 19:06.00 | carols | ok. |
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| 19:06.00 | kblin | oh |
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| 19:06.17 | carols | hi GNOME|marina :-) |
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| 19:06.21 | GNOME|marina | carols: please assign Volodymyr to GStreamer |
| 19:06.24 | kblin | voming up |
| 19:06.30 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 19:06.39 | GNOME|marina | carols: we have not heard from them if they need an extra spot |
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| 19:06.45 | GNOME|marina | and we have a way to use ours |
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| 19:06.47 | carols | well, we'll see what happens here. |
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| 19:07.22 | GNOME|marina | carols: hi too :) |
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| 19:07.30 | carols | :-) |
| 19:07.34 | carols | have some tea while we wait. |
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| 19:08.09 | carols | kblin: still waiting on gstreamer? |
| 19:08.09 | kblin | oh, quck note.. when carols says "PM", she means a query, not a mail, if anyone is confused |
| 19:08.15 | kblin | carols: yup |
| 19:08.18 | carols | ok. |
| 19:08.23 | GNOME|marina | carols: the proposal is to do the same work |
| 19:08.23 | carols | let's give it one more minute. |
| 19:08.33 | Melange|Lennie | Prime Minister? |
| 19:08.37 | Melange|Lennie | (sorry) :) |
| 19:08.42 | carols | GNOME|marina: well, if they don't respond gnome gets the student. |
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| 19:08.58 | GNOME|marina | carols: no, they want to get the student |
| 19:08.58 | carols | gstreamer |
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| 19:09.09 | carols | so you don't want the student at all? |
| 19:09.12 | GNOME|marina | carols: no |
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| 19:09.20 | carols | ok, they have to be in the meeting to get the student. |
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| 19:09.27 | GNOME|marina | the student will do the same work using a spot with gstreamer |
| 19:09.33 | carols | they can't get a student if they don't ask for him/her. |
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| 19:09.39 | carols | so |
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| 19:09.40 | GNOME|marina | can we just unmark him now? |
| 19:09.41 | carols | going once |
| 19:09.43 | GNOME|marina | we have a log |
| 19:09.44 | carols | yes, you can |
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| 19:09.51 | GNOME|marina | unmarking |
| 19:09.53 | carols | sure, if you don't want the student unaccept him |
| 19:09.54 | carols | ok |
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| 19:10.18 | carols | Volodymyr Rudyj goes to gstreamer; gnome did not want the student. |
| 19:10.20 | carols | so noted. |
| 19:10.22 | carols | moving on. |
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| 19:10.37 | carols | i need admins for ASF and ESUG, please. |
| 19:10.59 | carols | hi esug|Carla |
| 19:11.04 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v ASF|uli] by kblin |
| 19:11.10 | carols | hi ASF|uli |
| 19:11.11 | carols | ok |
| 19:11.13 | ASF|uli | hey ThibG |
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| 19:11.18 | ASF|uli | hey there |
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| 19:11.22 | carols | have both of you discussed Allan at this point? |
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| 19:11.32 | esug|Carla | Yes |
| 19:11.38 | ASF|uli | we have. we asked for students preference but he would not commit to one or the other |
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| 19:11.50 | carols | and can you decide between yourselves who should get the student? |
| 19:11.55 | carols | or do you want me to decide? |
| 19:12.00 | esug|Carla | Nono, flash news! He prefers his project with ASF |
| 19:12.14 | carols | ok, and esug|Carla you're ok with asf getting the student? |
| 19:12.15 | ASF|uli | ok |
| 19:12.17 | esug|Carla | He's sent an email a couple of minutes ago |
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| 19:12.37 | carols | so are we decided asf will get him? |
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| 19:12.43 | ASF|uli | yes |
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| 19:12.47 | carols | esug|Carla? |
| 19:12.49 | carols | agreed? |
| 19:13.14 | esug|Carla | Yes, we have another proposal that we'd like to accept |
| 19:13.26 | carols | ok, i am marking this student as unaccepted by esug. |
| 19:13.29 | carols | student goes to asf |
| 19:13.31 | carols | so noted |
| 19:13.37 | esug|Carla | Perfect |
| 19:13.46 | carols | moving on |
| 19:13.48 | ASF|uli | indeed |
| 19:13.58 | carols | i need admins for orange and kde please |
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| 19:14.39 | KDE|Teo | hello carols |
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| 19:14.44 | carols | hi KDE|Teo :-) |
| 19:14.44 | KDE|Teo | waves at the audience |
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| 19:14.48 | KDE|valorie | hi carols |
| 19:14.53 | carols | we'll just wait a sec for the orange folks |
| 19:14.55 | carols | hi KDE|valorie |
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| 19:14.57 | KDE|Teo | sure |
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| 19:15.33 | carols | kblin: please give voice to Orange|Mitar |
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| 19:15.38 | carols | i got a pm |
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| 19:15.48 | carols | great |
| 19:15.49 | carols | ok |
| 19:15.52 | Orange|Mitar | thanks |
| 19:15.54 | Orange|Mitar | here |
| 19:16.01 | carols | student in question is noughmad |
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| 19:16.07 | carols | have you already discussed the student? |
| 19:16.10 | KDE|Teo | we have asked the student for his preference but he has not replied |
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| 19:16.14 | carols | ok. |
| 19:16.16 | Orange|Mitar | he didn't replz |
| 19:16.20 | KDE|Teo | KDE would like to have the student |
| 19:16.32 | carols | and are you able to decide between yourselves or do you need me to arbitrate? |
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| 19:16.42 | KDE|Teo | I'd like to make a case for KDE |
| 19:16.45 | Orange|Mitar | us too, he was a student last year for orange and he was really good |
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| 19:17.04 | carols | alright. what's the case, KDE|Teo? |
| 19:17.06 | carols | quickly :-) |
| 19:17.07 | Orange|Mitar | and continued to participate also after gsoc |
| 19:17.10 | KDE|Teo | the student was a duplicate last year between KDE and Orange and he ended up with Orange. we would like to have a turn at him this year |
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| 19:17.23 | carols | KDE|Teo: it sounds like he's involved in the orange community. |
| 19:17.26 | Orange|Mitar | (last year he preferred orange) |
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| 19:17.29 | KDE|Teo | he is in good standing with KDE as well |
| 19:17.40 | carols | i see. so he's in both communities? |
| 19:17.44 | carols | equally? |
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| 19:18.01 | KDE|Teo | carols: I can't comment on his involvement with Orange so I can't evaluate if it's equally |
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| 19:18.15 | carols | KDE|Teo: but he's involved in your community too, you're saying? |
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| 19:18.24 | KDE|Teo | yes |
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| 19:18.33 | carols | alright. then i will decide for you both. |
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| 19:18.38 | Orange|Mitar | he is also from same university as our lab is ... so we also meet in person last year a lot and worked together ... |
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| 19:19.12 | carols | do either of your orgs have a student who you could replace this student with if you lost him? |
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| 19:19.32 | Orange|Mitar | we do not have a clear replacement but could find one |
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| 19:19.36 | KDE|Teo | carols: not for the same idea |
| 19:19.43 | Orange|Mitar | also for some other idea |
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| 19:19.48 | Orange|Mitar | for same, no |
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| 19:20.44 | carols | a tough decision. |
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| 19:21.03 | carols | student will go to kde this year. |
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| 19:21.09 | Orange|Mitar | he also does for his research this stuff |
| 19:21.10 | Orange|Mitar | but ok |
| 19:21.12 | carols | maybe next year he'll go back to orange. |
| 19:21.13 | KDE|Teo | carols: thank you |
| 19:21.15 | Orange|Mitar | ok |
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| 19:21.16 | carols | you're welcome. |
| 19:21.20 | KDE|Teo | \o/ |
| 19:21.24 | Orange|Mitar | we then select somebody else now? |
| 19:21.24 | KDE|valorie | thanks, carols |
| 19:21.26 | carols | i'm sorry guys, we have to make tough decisions with this program. |
| 19:21.30 | carols | Orange|Mitar: yes, you can. |
| 19:21.32 | Orange|Mitar | no problem |
| 19:21.38 | Orange|Mitar | should i unaccept him or you do this? |
| 19:21.40 | carols | please unaccept him and accept someone else in his place. |
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| 19:21.44 | Orange|Mitar | ok |
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| 19:21.47 | carols | ok, moving on. |
| 19:21.49 | Orange|Mitar | will do now |
| 19:21.50 | Orange|Mitar | thanks! |
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| 19:22.10 | carols | i need bluez and e-cidadania admins please |
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| 19:22.49 | carols | sips some more tea |
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| 19:23.21 | carols | kblin: please give BlueZ|padovan voice |
| 19:23.39 | carols | kblin: please also give lglira-ecidadani voice |
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| 19:24.02 | kai_andy | Hang on |
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| 19:24.08 | carols | sure |
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| 19:24.38 | carols | great |
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| 19:24.39 | carols | hello folks |
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| 19:24.50 | carols | student in question is Michał Poczwardowski |
| 19:24.59 | carols | have you already discussed this amongst yourselves? |
| 19:25.03 | BlueZ|padovan | carols: I talked with the student and lglira-ecidadani, he prefers BlueZ |
| 19:25.15 | carols | ok, and lglira-ecidadani you're agreed with this? |
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| 19:25.33 | lglira-ecidadani | yes |
| 19:25.37 | carols | ok. great. |
| 19:25.40 | carols | student goes to bluez |
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| 19:25.44 | carols | i will mark it as such |
| 19:25.53 | carols | so noted |
| 19:25.54 | carols | moving on |
| 19:25.55 | BlueZ|padovan | thank you. |
| 19:25.56 | lglira-ecidadani | the student prefer BlueZ |
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| 19:26.15 | carols | i need admins for mit and silverstripe, please. |
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| 19:26.46 | carols | hi silverstripe|isc |
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| 19:26.50 | carols | hi MIT|Ellen |
| 19:26.50 | silverstripe|isc | Talked to the student (Ryan) couple of hours ago, his preference is our project, as he feels that he's gotten more feedback from our community than from MIT, and would make a bigger impact overall (see his comment in Melange). He's happy to do either though. Emailed Hal from MIT on why we feel its an important project to us (unfortunately without any fallback students). |
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| 19:26.59 | silverstripe|isc | (and: hello!) |
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| 19:27.07 | carols | ok. MIT|Ellen are you agreed with this? |
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| 19:27.12 | MIT|Ellen | We're disappointed, but it sounds like Ryan should go to you. |
| 19:27.20 | carols | ok, great. ' |
| 19:27.25 | carols | student goes to silverstripe |
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| 19:27.29 | carols | i will mark it as such |
| 19:27.36 | silverstripe|isc | Thanks heaps! |
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| 19:27.37 | carols | so noted |
| 19:27.39 | carols | moving on |
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| 19:28.01 | carols | alright, i need drupal and fedora admins please |
| 19:28.03 | MIT|Ellen | Can we specify a replacement? |
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| 19:28.15 | kblin | er |
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| 19:28.18 | carols | MIT|Ellen: yes, just accept another student now. |
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| 19:28.34 | carols | hi Fedora|bckurera |
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| 19:28.48 | carols | looks like this is our last duplicate in our current list. |
| 19:29.03 | carols | have we got drupal admins? |
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| 19:29.30 | carols | hi Drupal|matt2000 |
| 19:29.32 | carols | ok |
| 19:29.33 | Drupal|matt2000 | I'm not an admin, but a mentor. Can I represent Drupal? |
| 19:29.42 | carols | student in question is Rabi Shanker Guha |
| 19:30.07 | carols | Drupal|matt2000: are there not any other drupal admins here, and have they given you final decision power? |
| 19:30.42 | Drupal|matt2000 | carols, doesn't look like there are others. I do not have any official authority. |
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| 19:30.57 | carols | Drupal|matt2000: are you familiar with the situation with this student? |
| 19:31.04 | carols | Fedora|bckurera: have you been in discussion with drupal about this? |
| 19:31.15 | Fedora|bckurera | we exchange few emails |
| 19:31.26 | carols | Fedora|bckurera: and? |
| 19:31.36 | Fedora|bckurera | They would like to give us the chance and go for another project |
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| 19:31.52 | Fedora|bckurera | but no strong confirmation yet |
| 19:31.53 | carols | Fedora|bckurera: another project? so have the student go to drupal and you choose another? |
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| 19:32.25 | Fedora|bckurera | we choose this proposal and drupal will go for another, AFAIK |
| 19:32.31 | Drupal|matt2000 | carols: only what I see on the website. Fedora should make the call if they have any special info. Im justhere ot help if needed. |
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| 19:32.44 | carols | so it sounds like drupal loses the student as it stands now. |
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| 19:32.53 | Drupal|matt2000 | wait |
| 19:32.59 | Drupal|matt2000 | sumitk is drupal admin |
| 19:32.59 | carols | yes? |
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| 19:33.10 | Drupal|matt2000 | I believe...? |
| 19:33.12 | carols | sumitk: are you here? can you pm kblin for voice if you're here? |
| 19:33.14 | Drupal|matt2000 | can someone give voice? |
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| 19:33.39 | Fedora|bckurera | We would like to go with this proposal, we got only one submission for this idea. |
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| 19:33.43 | carols | sumitk: are you a drupal admin? |
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| 19:34.21 | carols | sumitk: ok, are you agreed with Fedora|bckurera that the student goes to fedora? |
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| 19:34.35 | sumitk | carols: Fedora|bckurera I think we are still discussing |
| 19:34.47 | carols | sumitk: yes, and we're deciding right now :-) |
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| 19:34.55 | sumitk | we really like that project but if Fedora is short on good proposals we are ready to let it go |
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| 19:35.05 | carols | Fedora|bckurera: are you short on proposals? |
| 19:35.12 | sumitk | it is #4 in our list so pretty high priority proposal |
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| 19:35.30 | Fedora|bckurera | yes, for this idea we have only this submission |
| 19:35.42 | carols | ok, student goes to fedora. |
| 19:35.43 | carols | so noted. |
| 19:35.53 | carols | drupal, please choose another student. |
| 19:35.55 | Fedora|bckurera | sumitk carols thanks |
| 19:35.57 | sumitk | carols: Fedora|bckurera agreed |
| 19:35.59 | sumitk | thanks |
| 19:36.07 | carols | ok, that's all the duplicates for this first round folks |
| 19:36.16 | carols | i need to rerun the duplication checker so please hold tight |
| 19:36.18 | carols | we're almost there |
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| 19:37.01 | carols | serves some coffee while we wait |
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| 19:38.34 | carols | we're close |
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| 19:38.37 | carols | please hold |
| 19:38.41 | carols | your call is important to us. |
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| 19:39.08 | kblin | hums par louise |
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| 19:39.37 | carols | great. we have no further duplicates. |
| 19:39.45 | carols | we can call this meeting adjourned. |
| 19:39.46 | carols | HOWEVER |
| 19:39.57 | carols | i still have a lot of orgs that are using more or less than their allotted total |
| 19:40.15 | carols | so please, if you are an org admin, please triple check you are accepting the EXACT amount of proposals as you have slots. |
| 19:40.17 | carols | thanks. |
| 19:40.26 | carols | ====End GSoC 2012 Deduplication Meetin==== |
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| 19:40.44 | carols | kblin: you can unmoderate the channel now |
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| 19:40.55 | Mono|shana | woo! |
| 19:40.55 | m1k3y | yay carols! |
| 19:40.55 | dzhus | first! |
| 19:40.55 | bretonium | well, great! |
| 19:40.56 | headius | that was exciting |
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| 19:40.59 | Mono|shana | ah! |
| 19:40.59 | john_1_ | it wasn't that bad |
| 19:40.59 | mozilla|gerv | Thanks Carol :-) |
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| 19:41.01 | openintents|pel | thank you :-) |
| 19:41.01 | dzhus | fail -_- |
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| 19:41.03 | hartem | thanks ! |
| 19:41.03 | andralex | carols: so could some orgs hope for some more slots? |
| 19:41.04 | Wikimedia|sumana | Thanks all |
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| 19:41.06 | crystalspace|wel | carols didn't get to pull her hair today :) |
| 19:41.07 | XSF|Kev | carols: Could you send out that list of orgs, maybe? It's possible I've screwed something up and we're not 7/7 as I believe we are, or something. |
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| 19:41.08 | qheaden | That was fun. :) |
| 19:41.09 | Mono|shana | thanks for the coffee carols |
| 19:41.09 | KDE|Teo | thanks for managing a quick meeting, carols :) |
| 19:41.10 | nemo | More activity than last year it seems |
| 19:41.11 | Catroid|sercan | that was quick :) |
| 19:41.11 | john_1_ | it wasn't that bad |
| 19:41.12 | carols | andralex: no, not at this point. |
| 19:41.14 | Tux4Kids|aadi_02 | @carol:- meeting finished |
| 19:41.14 | Orange|Makarov | carols: I accidentally noticed at last year that google-melange.com seemed to have XSS. Where can i submit bug report? |
| 19:41.15 | Nmap|Fyodor | Thanks Carol, and everyone! |
| 19:41.18 | dzhus | this was so much fun |
| 19:41.20 | simonl | Oh, I just have join the flood |
| 19:41.22 | smit_sanghavi | v vn |
| 19:41.23 | carols | XSF|Kev: you'll get an individual email. |
| 19:41.23 | lglira-ecidadani | guys have a nice day |
| 19:41.24 | Connexions|reeds | Very cool. Would have been nice to know at the beginning how many we were dealing with. |
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| 19:41.24 | sigmah|osarrat | Impressive of efficiency! Thanks ! |
| 19:41.25 | mozilla|gerv | If you are accepting more than you think, make sure you have "All" selected in the proposal viewer. |
| 19:41.27 | eclipse|wayne | Thanks carols |
| 19:41.29 | OSGeo|aghisla | hats off! |
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| 19:41.30 | PacketFence|plax | thanks for the hard work carols! |
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| 19:41.30 | mozilla|gerv | We had a student withdraw, and it messed up the counts |
| 19:41.31 | carols | Orange|Makarov: code.google.com/p/osc |
| 19:41.32 | carols | soc |
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| 19:41.34 | nemo | almost 800 people. wow. |
| 19:41.34 | mozilla|gerv | because we couldn't see him! |
| 19:41.36 | Ivanovic | XSF|Kev: just go to your dashboard under "my organizations" |
| 19:41.36 | Wikimedia|sumana | XSF|Kev: look at your dashboard, look at "orgs I participate in" and there will be a note if there is a slot diff |
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| 19:41.43 | Xordan | Thanks carols, kblin |
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| 19:41.46 | OpenMRS|r0bby | code.google.com/p/soc |
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| 19:41.47 | climatecode|nb | Modest proposal for next year: any org who gets called by carols and doesn't have an org admin online is summarily dismissed from the program. |
| 19:41.48 | OSGeo|dadkins | brings carols some more tea |
| 19:41.49 | Ivanovic | there you see how many slots you are allowed, how many you use and the difference |
| 19:41.50 | Susanu | i'm so happy, yuhuuuuuu |
| 19:41.51 | ChipX86 | we gave back a couple this year, so hopefully that'll help with the overallocation |
| 19:41.51 | OpenMRS|r0bby | typo carols |
| 19:41.52 | genomeinfo|rhaw | thx carol |
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| 19:41.56 | nemo | climatecode|nb: :( |
| 19:41.58 | carols | yep |
| 19:41.59 | hsy | carols: maybe it would be better next time to call two pairs at once to make this quicker. #parallelization-rules |
| 19:42.00 | edsiper | Our org is set. slots == assigned; |
| 19:42.05 | nemo | climatecode|nb: I was here to represent our org. our admin couldn't appear. that's not fair |
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| 19:42.07 | JBoss|dallen | thanks Carol! JBoss is super excited to be participating this year. |
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| 19:42.13 | nemo | climatecode|nb: he deputised me :-p |
| 19:42.15 | carols | great |
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| 19:42.23 | qheaden | OSGeo|dadkins: make that tea with caffene. |
| 19:42.26 | gevaerts | climatecode|nb: I blame the author |
| 19:42.31 | dsathe | wow that was something ! carols kblin Kudos |
| 19:42.33 | XSF|Kev | Thanks folks - I actually knew that and had done it, but still. If orgs don't know they're not aligned, they can't fix it. |
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| 19:42.35 | blacktooth | !logs |
| 19:42.35 | gsocbot | blacktooth: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 19:42.39 | OpenMRS|r0bby | on that note peace out -- my eyes are killing me! |
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| 19:42.44 | Wikimedia|sumana | Hey all you org admins - don't forget to prep an acceptance & rejection email in Melange now! |
| 19:42.45 | moriginal | !next |
| 19:42.46 | gsocbot | moriginal: "next" is (#1) Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23., or (#2) Deduplication meeting April 20, 19:00 UTC. All slot assignments must have been made by 07:00 UTC. |
| 19:42.47 | Wikimedia|sumana | to go out on the 23rd |
| 19:42.48 | opencv|gary | Bring cool teas to gsoc end meeting |
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| 19:42.56 | CCF|drj | nemo: well, a deputed agent is okay too. :) It's just that as a tiny org, it's we feel a bit miffed when the big boys don't even bother turning up |
| 19:42.57 | r0bby | Wikimedia|sumana: whatttt? |
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| 19:43.06 | andralex | carols: thankzx |
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| 19:43.10 | andralex | *thanks |
| 19:43.10 | jps | !forget next 2 |
| 19:43.11 | gsocbot | jps: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23. |
| 19:43.12 | aghisla | Wikimedia|sumana: will do now! |
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| 19:43.17 | lglira-ecidadani | guys have a nice day, bye bye |
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| 19:43.22 | CCF|drj | carols: much thanks for keeping it brief. :) |
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| 19:43.32 | carols | CCF|drj: yw :-) |
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| 19:43.37 | r0bby | carols: you are awesome! |
| 19:43.39 | Wikimedia|sumana | r0bby: there's a spot in Melange where an org admin can put in the template for an acceptance message & for a rejection message, and those get autoemailed to students on the 23rd |
| 19:43.42 | OGRE|AssafRaman | Have a good summer everyone -see you in the mentor summit! |
| 19:43.43 | openwall|solar | Wikimedia|sumana: do you somehow verify that your added acceptance/rejection text fits in with the standard footer/header from melange well? |
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| 19:43.49 | qheaden | carols: Thanks for everything. |
| 19:43.51 | carols | r0bby: thanks :-) |
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| 19:44.05 | Wikimedia|sumana | openwall|solar: I don't know, sorry! maybe you could file a thing in the bugtracker..... |
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| 19:44.13 | climatecode|nb | wonders how dedupe code can take more than a millisecond to run.... |
| 19:44.15 | bretonium | well, the date D now is the 23 of April, evening. |
| 19:44.27 | Lennie | openwall|solar, one sec |
| 19:44.31 | chetan_ | carols: I am curious, how did you ascertain or authenticate that these people were mentors or admins. Was there a check? |
| 19:44.32 | openwall|solar | Wikimedia|sumana: i certainly had the same thought last year, so maybe i already filed a ticket - don't recall %-) |
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| 19:44.51 | Wikimedia|sumana | Changing my nick back -- |
| 19:44.54 | carols | chetan_: you all are on the honor system. |
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| 19:45.33 | NetBSD|spz | puts a box of chocolates on the channel table |
| 19:45.50 | MatthewWilkes | chetan_: It never occurred to me that someone might lie… any org that did that would probably find themselves out in the cold in future |
| 19:45.52 | r0bby | hey lh |
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| 19:45.59 | kblin | carols: if you don't need me anymore, I'm back to my rehearsal |
| 19:46.02 | Nicolae_Guta | i want a chocolate ! |
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| 19:46.09 | giuseppe | NetBSD|spz, good idea :-) |
| 19:46.14 | sumanah | I'm thinking of linking to http://ploum.net/post/be-selected-student-for-soc in my rejection message |
| 19:46.15 | berkman|djcp | Forgive me - where do I find the acceptance / rejection letters in melange? |
| 19:46.21 | Connexions|reeds | MatthewWilkes: that's exactly what I told students who asked for early info :-) |
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| 19:46.22 | carols | kblin: yes, thanks. we're done now. i owe you schwa :-) |
| 19:46.24 | Fridrich | better then a can of coke on the keyboard |
| 19:46.26 | chetan_ | MatthewWilkes: Ya exactly |
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| 19:46.29 | berkman|djcp | I am an orgadmin, obviously. |
| 19:46.30 | sumanah | berkman|djcp: go to the homepage for your org and hit edit |
| 19:46.32 | illumos|buffyg | <Adding a long-stem rose to that long-stem rose> |
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| 19:46.47 | illumos|buffyg | Or box of chocolates. Sigh. |
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| 19:47.07 | chetan_ | carols: Only fair |
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| 19:47.17 | Uli- | chocolate robots... hmm... |
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| 19:47.46 | GNOME|marina | carols: when I filter for "Should accept" true for GNOME, it returns 29 results, which is how many spots we have, but in the "My organizations" view it says that we are using 30 - it has been like that for the last few days |
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| 19:47.51 | berkman|djcp | there it is. Thanks, sumanah |
| 19:48.06 | sumanah | Glad to help! |
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| 19:48.25 | carols | GNOME|marina: are you looking at ALL proposals, not just VALID? |
| 19:48.45 | mohyt | !logs |
| 19:48.45 | gsocbot | mohyt: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 19:48.58 | Lennie | openwall|solar, it will be added after Carol's message |
| 19:49.05 | Lennie | but before the greetings, GOSPO team :) |
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| 19:49.12 | GNOME|marina | carols: oh, right, see the withdrawn one now - should I unmark it? |
| 19:49.19 | carols | GNOME|marina: please do. |
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| 19:49.30 | GNOME|marina | carols: ok, thanks! |
| 19:49.35 | carols | yw |
| 19:49.37 | berkman|djcp | Where are the "standard" acceptance and rejection messages so I can be sure my acceptance / rejection text make sense in context? |
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| 19:49.55 | openwall|solar | Lennie: thanks. i am also unsure regarding plain text vs. html for the portion we specify. can you clarify that? |
| 19:50.02 | robinsmidsrod | berkman|djcp: edit org page in melange |
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| 19:50.19 | shana | I assume that the "Pending Acceptance" text in the Status column in the proposal list is going to change to Accepted at some point? |
| 19:50.23 | sumanah | robinsmidsrod: Berkman means, the boilerplates that will be coming from Google. |
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| 19:50.35 | shana | The filters on that column are useless |
| 19:50.43 | sumanah | robinsmidsrod: our rejection/acceptance boilerplates will be sandwiched inside theirs. |
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| 19:51.00 | berkman|djcp | Right, I want to see the boilerplate language. |
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| 19:51.35 | openwall|solar | berkman|djcp: iirc, last year i found them somewhere in melange code |
| 19:51.42 | shana | waves and gets food |
| 19:51.45 | memset | Drizzle: who all made to the finals? |
| 19:51.48 | berkman|djcp | Convenient. |
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| 19:52.06 | Lennie | openwall|solar, you can add HTML but note that some people may read their mail in plan text |
| 19:52.15 | Lennie | so don't go overboard :) |
| 19:52.25 | Lennie | plain* |
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| 19:52.39 | openwall|solar | Lennie: when i have javascript enabled, the melange UI sort of forces me to use html there. i type plain text, but i think it gets converted to html. |
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| 19:53.09 | openwall|solar | Lennie: so i was wondering if the messages include both parts, with the html getting unconverted to plain text for the text/plain part? |
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| 19:53.46 | baazigar | ! |
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| 19:53.55 | openwall|solar | Lennie: it'd be simplest and best to be able to trigger test acceptance/rejection messages to myself (org admin), then make adjustments, do the test again - until satisfied |
| 19:53.56 | baazigar | !next |
| 19:53.56 | gsocbot | baazigar: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23. |
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| 19:54.24 | berkman|djcp | Yep, I don't know what to say because I don't know what's said. |
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| 19:55.15 | sumanah | bye all |
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| 19:55.25 | jps | hm. Do we really want "next" to say that students should still be trying to impress mentors at this point? I've seen several updates to proposals that don't have a chance, and didn't even before they closed. Thoughts? |
| 19:56.28 | harlan | did you give the students any feedback? |
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| 19:56.42 | openwall|solar | i don't mind being impressed by a non-accepted student. we may work with them outside of gsoc then. |
| 19:56.53 | Lennie | openwall|solar, please add that as a feature request |
| 19:56.55 | Lennie | I like the idea |
| 19:56.59 | Lennie | !bugs |
| 19:57.00 | gsocbot | Lennie: "bugs" is http://tinyurl.com/new-issue |
| 19:57.04 | Lennie | !bugs | openwall|solar |
| 19:57.04 | gsocbot | openwall|solar: "bugs" is http://tinyurl.com/new-issue |
| 19:57.08 | jps | harlan: it's impossible. You don't want to say "good" for things that don't have a chance, and we can't tell them they don't have a chance |
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| 19:57.21 | openwall|solar | Lennie: thanks. i need to start by searching to make sure i had not already added it last year. i thought of doing so. |
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| 19:57.26 | jps | but solar has a good point |
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| 19:57.35 | warthog9 | jps: it may still be worth it for the students to impress the mentors, if they are passionate enough about their project they may pick it up on their own and actually work on it anyway |
| 19:57.39 | harlan | What is so wrong with telling somebody who does not have a chance with their proposal the truth? |
| 19:57.40 | nulltin | Well, in that case, the topic should say "Sit back and bite your nails off till 23rd" |
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| 19:57.59 | jps | I wish my orgs had some way to get rejected students going. Maybe a Kickstarter construction set.... |
| 19:58.00 | Lennie | jps, also in the past orgs have used their money (they get 500 per student) to fund another student :) |
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| 19:58.16 | antsguroo | maybe something like "we have already made our decisions about the students allocation, wait for 23th" |
| 19:58.19 | Connexions|reeds | Lennie: hmm, you'd need 10 slots for that ... |
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| 19:58.27 | nulltin | Lennie: Wow, that's actually pretty awesome! |
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| 19:58.41 | Lennie | Connexions|reeds, or a student who doesn't mind getting less |
| 19:58.45 | Lennie | if they are passionate enough :) |
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| 19:58.51 | Lennie | tshirts can go a long way :P |
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| 19:58.59 | jps | harlan: Google insists we not reject anyone or let them know they're out of the running before they send the announcements on Monday |
| 19:59.06 | ajedwards | there are probably a lot of students who will complete their project for the t-shirt and the mentor contact time |
| 19:59.10 | nulltin | Lennie: A smaller beginner project, for the lesser pay. :) |
| 19:59.10 | harlan | I |
| 19:59.11 | Connexions|reeds | Lennie: or some way to supplement - the hard part about hiring summer students is always the vetting part |
| 19:59.14 | harlan | I |
| 19:59.20 | ajedwards | unfortunately orgs lose them |
| 19:59.24 | jps | antsguroo: that's a good idea |
| 19:59.28 | Fridrich | exactly, we have a whole system of easy hacks to get people started in LibreOffice, you don't do easy hack, don't ever hope to be accepted for GSoC |
| 19:59.29 | aakash | can someone give a history of these chat conversations? |
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| 19:59.46 | Connexions|reeds | aakash: ask the gsocbot !logs |
| 19:59.53 | nulltin | !logs | aakash |
| 19:59.53 | gsocbot | aakash: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 20:00.18 | Connexions|reeds | nulltin: Ah thanks, that's how! |
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| 20:00.35 | potter | !logs |
| 20:00.35 | gsocbot | potter: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 20:00.45 | jps | Fridrich: I tried to help one of your applicants with an "easy" hack on your easy hacks page. It turned out to be a major project! :-/ It was the one with adding a toolbar button |
| 20:00.45 | nulltin | !logs|aakash |
| 20:00.45 | nulltin | :| |
| 20:00.49 | denisboyun | Hi guys anybody know the list of accepted students is already know? |
| 20:01.06 | aakash | !logs |
| 20:01.06 | gsocbot | aakash: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 20:01.08 | wtachi | denisboyun: nobody knows until the 23rd |
| 20:01.28 | nulltin | Connexions|reeds: :) |
| 20:01.29 | harlan | ll reread - and I think one can still say "Thanks for your proposal. We like X about it, and it would be an even bettr proposal if you did Y, and your chances would improve if you communicated more with us/worked with us to do Q, ..." |
| 20:01.35 | Fridrich | jps: yup, but if the person hangs on irc, he will get a help and we will know that he is really interested |
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| 20:02.02 | Fridrich | jps: those "sir, I respectfully ask you to help me to write my application" -> /dev/null |
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| 20:02.23 | denisboyun | And how students will be notified of acceptance? |
| 20:02.36 | Connexions|reeds | denisboyun: email from google |
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| 20:02.43 | OpenICC|oy | carols: hello, we sent you one slot back with our last email |
| 20:02.49 | jps | I don't mind proofreading and copyediting applications that don't come in at the last minute |
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| 20:03.02 | zad | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:03.23 | denisboyun | and if not accepted then the same mail too? |
| 20:03.25 | aakash | i want the logs for today 20 the link has it till 19 |
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| 20:03.29 | wtachi | denisboyun: yes |
| 20:03.49 | wtachi | aakash: you'll have to wait |
| 20:03.54 | denisboyun | wtachi, I understand, thanks |
| 20:04.05 | aakash | how much? |
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| 20:04.24 | ajedwards | aakash, what do you need from the log? |
| 20:04.32 | Lennie | carols, can I suggest you add like a line saying the organization has added the following message to your messages? |
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| 20:04.37 | Lennie | I think it might be confusing otherwise :) |
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| 20:04.59 | abeer_ | It would be nice, if the orgs actually told people there chances as soon as possible. From what I see a lot of people keep other things pending just for GSOC. |
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| 20:05.19 | qheaden | Out of curiosity, is there any reason Google doesn't participate in SoC with projects like Chrome, Android, etc? |
| 20:05.45 | aakash | ajedwards: if you were online for last 3 hours you can give the log of last 3 hours |
| 20:05.59 | openwall|solar | Lennie: it's pretty much impossible or at least weird to describe my proposed enhancement using the standard issue template at http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/entry - ok to not use the template? |
| 20:06.09 | aakash | i guess so as one has already done this before |
| 20:06.22 | Lennie | openwall|solar, one sec |
| 20:06.29 | openwall|solar | "*Please note that issues filed that do not follow this template will be |
| 20:06.30 | openwall|solar | marked as Invalid*" |
| 20:06.32 | ajedwards | aakash, that sounds like too much hard work, if you were looking for something in particular i would be more inclined to help. wait for tomorrow. |
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| 20:06.44 | dzhus | abeer_: +1 |
| 20:06.57 | openwall|solar | Lennie: i already started writing some humorous text just to make it fit the template %-) |
| 20:07.07 | Lennie | hehe |
| 20:07.10 | aakash | tomorrow will be by utc +0 ? |
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| 20:08.04 | Lennie | openwall|solar, if you open the page in another screen you should be able to pick a new template |
| 20:08.08 | Lennie | Enhancement request :) |
| 20:08.15 | Lennie | that makes more sense :p |
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| 20:08.45 | aakash | ajedwards: and will it be containing the log of the deduplication meeting? |
| 20:09.07 | abeer_ | qheaden : That's because Chrome isn't actually open source, Chromium is. And, I'm pretty sure if you have an interesting idea with any of these you could apply under the Google Open Source Office |
| 20:09.09 | openwall|solar | Lennie: found it. thanks. |
| 20:09.14 | ajedwards | the deduplication meeting was pretty boring, it's clear you're looking for something in particular (your own name perhaps?) why not just ask... |
| 20:09.52 | aakash | yes please tell if you can, i will be pleased... :) |
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| 20:09.54 | Lennie | qheaden, also this program is not to make Google better :0 |
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| 20:10.04 | ajedwards | what is your name? |
| 20:10.05 | Lennie | qheaden, it's to give back to the community of which Google makes use a lot :) |
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| 20:10.19 | aakash | Aakash |
| 20:10.21 | allman | Lennie: did I miss the dedup meeting completely? |
| 20:10.27 | flaushy | allman: yepe |
| 20:10.27 | meflin | yes |
| 20:10.34 | Lennie | allman, yes and you lost a student too |
| 20:10.40 | Lennie | although someone else was here for MIT :) |
| 20:10.47 | allman | Ah well. |
| 20:10.48 | carols | did someone need me? |
| 20:10.55 | allman | Cool! Thanks! |
| 20:10.55 | ajedwards | aakash, you were not mentioned |
| 20:10.57 | Lennie | carols, can I suggest you add like a line saying the organization has added the following message to your messages? |
| 20:11.04 | Mareo | !next |
| 20:11.06 | gsocbot | Mareo: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23. |
| 20:11.08 | allman | Just checking in, saying hi. |
| 20:11.18 | carols | Lennie: in what? |
| 20:11.25 | Lennie | for the accepted and rejected projects |
| 20:11.31 | aakash | ajedwards: ok thanks for your cooperation :) |
| 20:11.51 | Lennie | carols, just a suggestion when I saw the configuration |
| 20:11.52 | djcp | carols, the issue is we don't know what to write for acceptance/rejection letters because we don't know what they are wrapped in. |
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| 20:12.06 | djcp | Or at least I don't as I haven't looked at the source code. |
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| 20:12.14 | jim|foreveremain | wishes all a merry summer and |
| 20:12.15 | Lennie | djcp, not in the source code atm :P |
| 20:12.35 | Lennie | djcp, it's fully configurable so that we don't have to change it every year |
| 20:12.41 | Lennie | carol can just write it herself :) |
| 20:12.42 | carols | can you guys please email me? i'm not really clear what either of you are telling me to do right now and i have 400 other things going on :-) |
| 20:12.57 | djcp | OK, that's fine. |
| 20:13.03 | Lennie | carols I'll drop you a line |
| 20:13.06 | qheaden | abeer_: Thanks for that info. |
| 20:13.09 | carols | thanks. |
| 20:13.15 | qheaden | Lennie: Ha ha, I guess you are right. :P |
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| 20:16.03 | abeer_ | qheaden: Not a problem |
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| 20:17.32 | docbook|stefan | wonders whether the meeting already started, and what is needed from those who don't have any duplicates |
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| 20:18.23 | docbook|stefan | Oh ! I thought it started at 4pmEST ! I suggest the topic to be changed to reflect that. |
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| 20:21.25 | solardiz | Lennie, carols: issue submitted - http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1531 - add ability for org admins to test student acceptance/rejection messages |
| 20:22.07 | Lennie | solardiz, thanks |
| 20:22.09 | solardiz | all: please star this issue a lot if we'd like it addressed during the weekend ;-) |
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| 20:22.20 | solardiz | otherwise it will only help next year... which will be good too |
| 20:22.42 | djcp | That'd be nice, but I'd be OK just knowing the language it's wrapped in too. |
| 20:23.23 | solardiz | djcp: well, we could request that as a separate enhancement, but i thought it'd be simpler to request one thing and not two |
| 20:23.36 | djcp | Fine either way. |
| 20:23.41 | solardiz | djcp: also, i find the text vs. html issues likely |
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| 20:24.07 | solardiz | djcp: for the reasons i described in my enhancement request |
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| 20:24.24 | Lennie | djcp I can give you that but it might change ;P |
| 20:25.00 | solardiz | Lennie: is the header/footer specified as plain text or html? |
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| 20:25.54 | Lennie | solardiz, html :p |
| 20:26.03 | Lennie | anyway I got a demo to run to |
| 20:27.04 | dadkins | Lennie: software demo or building demo? :) |
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| 20:27.51 | solardiz | Lennie: ok, then it makes sense that the added text is automatically turned into html |
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| 20:32.42 | Stepan777 | !next |
| 20:32.43 | gsocbot | Stepan777: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23. |
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| 20:36.38 | pc_magas | Hello can a student have 2 mentors? |
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| 20:37.11 | Catfish_Man | pc_magas: two people can mentor the student, but one of them will have to act as the mentor for gsoc purposes (doing the evaluation and such) |
| 20:39.05 | john_1_ | just one gets the t-shirt |
| 20:39.58 | meflin | that is not true about the t-shirt |
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| 20:41.26 | mmadia | !numapps |
| 20:41.27 | gsocbot | mmadia: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, of which 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 20:42.29 | fzzbt | so about 1/5 |
| 20:43.00 | fzzbt | 80% chance of fail |
| 20:43.01 | mmadia | ... i was curious if the number of accepted students were annonuced for 2012. |
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| 20:43.15 | meflin | no students have been accepted yet |
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| 20:43.35 | fzzbt | oh, sorry. i read the year wrong. |
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| 20:44.02 | ajedwards | fzzbt, stats mean nothing, some students have submitted 10 proposals (seriously) |
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| 20:44.15 | fzzbt | i know, i know |
| 20:44.35 | flaushy | and you compare proposals |
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| 20:45.02 | JCody | 1/3.3 students were accepted in 2011 |
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| 20:45.18 | nemo | ajedwards: I wish more of the good students would submit multiple proposals |
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| 20:45.29 | nemo | ajedwards: gives more flexibility. |
| 20:45.45 | meflin | I wish for more good students :) |
| 20:45.50 | gevaerts | !odds | fzzbt |
| 20:45.50 | gsocbot | fzzbt: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 20:45.54 | nemo | one guy who just chatted w/ me yesterday was asking if he could just put 3 ideas in his proposal. |
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| 20:46.00 | nemo | I was like. why didn't you submit 3 proposals? |
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| 20:46.07 | nemo | how hard is it to copy and paste the intro text? :) |
| 20:46.37 | ajedwards | hmm... i wonder if the decisions made would be different if mentors could see ALL proposals a student makes |
| 20:46.49 | nemo | oh. those from other orgs too? |
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| 20:47.02 | ajedwards | the judgement of whether a student is serious about their project would be interesting |
| 20:47.03 | ajedwards | yes |
| 20:47.12 | abeer_ | I know mentor's here are looking for the best students |
| 20:47.13 | meflin | that wouldn't mater for us |
| 20:47.14 | nemo | ajedwards: can see accepted proposals from prior years. that's handy if the student is a repeat |
| 20:47.39 | pc_magas | <Catfish_Man>Thanks. |
| 20:47.49 | abeer_ | but, shouldn't those students who are new to open source be given a better chance than those who have done GSOC especially for the easier projects? |
| 20:48.06 | ajedwards | meflin, if a student submitted 20 (the melange cap) proposals... you would not wonder about how seriously that student is considering your org? |
| 20:48.19 | ajedwards | abeer_, it doesn't work that way |
| 20:48.31 | emrecelikten | ajedwards: Agreed |
| 20:48.35 | Fridrich | abeer_: the problem is that there is a host of folks that apply for GSoC only because of USD 4500 |
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| 20:48.41 | meflin | ajedwards with our process no ... I've seen such things before ( we ask every student that question ) |
| 20:48.48 | konr | Fridrich: me me me |
| 20:49.04 | meflin | and those who turn in stacks are obvious in other ways |
| 20:49.42 | ajedwards | imho.. i would be happy to donate the money to the org |
| 20:50.03 | ajedwards | mentor's time is worth far more than a paycheck |
| 20:50.09 | konr | I'd rather work on my own FS project than in somebody else's if no money is on the table |
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| 20:50.46 | Fridrich | yeah, and the goal of the GSoC is that the somebod else's project becomes yours |
| 20:50.50 | meflin | our main goal is to gain long term contributors |
| 20:50.52 | ajedwards | konr, but then you don't benefit from the experience of others, it defeats the whole point of this exercise in open source really... |
| 20:51.08 | fzzbt | !odds | gevaerts |
| 20:51.09 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
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| 20:51.44 | Fridrich | konr: ask the girl that worked with us to reverse-engineer visio file-format last year whether she would prefer to do something else for 4500 or work on that project for 0 if it was to consider again |
| 20:51.49 | konr | ajedwards: what's this 'experience of others'? legated code? |
| 20:52.08 | Fridrich | http://www.derivativezero.com/blog/2012/03/get-into-open-source-with-gsoc-2012/ |
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| 20:52.32 | ajedwards | konr, do you not value the insight of others within an organisation?... collaborative contribution is the heart and soul of open source |
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| 20:52.37 | konr | Fridrich: well, if her daddy pays the bills, there's no argument |
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| 20:52.48 | |Kev| | konr: Never be the best player in the band. |
| 20:53.09 | konr | |Kev|: what do you mean? |
| 20:53.30 | |Kev| | Always work with people that you can learn from. |
| 20:53.36 | Fridrich | konr: it is actually better to not to look too good so that you give yourself a space to learn stuff |
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| 20:53.44 | konr | ajedwards: insight can come from any place. There's usually enough inside in feature requests |
| 20:53.54 | Fridrich | konr: when I was 18, I thought the world was all understood by me |
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| 20:54.27 | Fridrich | konr: now when I am 43, I realize that I am still only starting to understand stuff |
| 20:54.39 | amaurymedeiros2 | !next |
| 20:54.40 | gsocbot | amaurymedeiros2: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23. |
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| 20:56.02 | konr | yeah, I got your point |
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| 20:58.33 | malex | Fridrich: so true |
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| 20:59.01 | meflin | the more I know the more I know what I dont know :) |
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| 20:59.29 | Fridrich | yup, and knowing ones limitations is more useful then knowing one's skills |
| 20:59.39 | Fridrich | if the one is yourself |
| 21:00.03 | meflin | oddly mentoring ... pointed out to me I know some stuff I never knew that I knew |
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| 21:00.49 | om_ | what's up philosophers? |
| 21:00.51 | ajedwards | meflin, does your org mentor outside of gsoc? or purely for that purpose? |
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| 21:01.30 | meflin | well outside .. its was the gsoc mentoring that I was thinking of |
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| 21:01.53 | meflin | gsoc also pushed me into places I didn't go on my own |
| 21:02.03 | ajedwards | i was only asking out of curiosity really :) |
| 21:02.18 | om_ | any tips for making irssi ignore quit/join messages for only one channel? |
| 21:03.08 | baer | om_: check the help, it's actually in there ;) |
| 21:03.31 | ajedwards | om_ /ignore -channels #gsoc * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICK |
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| 21:04.03 | ajedwards | you can link channels #gsoc,#gsoc1 if you like |
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| 21:04.30 | om_ | ajedwards: thx, much appreciated :) |
| 21:04.33 | |Kev| | carols: Apologies - you replied to me earlier and I didn't see it amongst the flood. Thanks. |
| 21:04.41 | om_ | baer: too drunk to get a sense of help |
| 21:04.44 | ajedwards | om_ np :) |
| 21:04.47 | om_ | (it's friday night anyway) |
| 21:04.51 | carols | |Kev|: no prob |
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| 21:06.15 | qheaden | So will we be notified by email of our accepted/rejected status? Or do we have to check Melange on the 23rd? |
| 21:06.26 | |Kev| | qheaden: You'll get a mail. |
| 21:06.49 | qheaden | Okay. Thanks. |
| 21:06.51 | ric | should the gsoc proposal page still show the edit proposal link |
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| 21:09.00 | sonney2k | carols, I've just received an email from you that we (shogun toolbox) accepted a withdrawn proposal. while we have one withdrawn proposal in the list - we didn't accept it? Has this mail been sent in accident or what am I doing wrong? |
| 21:09.36 | carols | sonney2k: you've looked at all your proposals and verified that you're only trying to accept valid ones? |
| 21:10.00 | sonney2k | carols, yeah I have even unaccepted all students and checked again |
| 21:10.10 | sonney2k | with display all instead of valid |
| 21:10.25 | sonney2k | only one withdrawn which we really didn't accept |
| 21:10.30 | sonney2k | so I am confused now |
| 21:10.34 | abeer_ | Fridrich: I think it should be easy to filter out the applications for the $$. But, I feel that there might be some applications which are not of a very high standard because of the lack of guidance that is available to some of us. This is primarily why we look up to GSOC as a platform which is taken seriously to enhance our skill. |
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| 21:10.51 | carols | sonney2k: sure, i can verify but you're probably fine. |
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| 21:11.34 | sonney2k | carols, it would make me sleep better ... |
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| 21:12.07 | ric | is it normal that the my gsoc proposal page is still showing the edit proposal link?? |
| 21:12.12 | meflin | sleep? what is that :) |
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| 21:14.16 | demosdemon | meflin: sleep is that 8 hours between end of GSoC and start of my fall semester |
| 21:14.23 | meflin | heh :) |
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| 21:14.55 | alinrus | man 3 sleep |
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| 21:15.06 | meflin | sleep 2 |
| 21:15.07 | ajedwards | meflin, sleep time is when the mrs goes to sleep and i can focus on productivity :) |
| 21:15.12 | meflin | morning already? |
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| 21:15.22 | meflin | hahahaha |
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| 21:24.17 | aavendan | do someone know about ASF results? |
| 21:25.15 | meflin | for studeents? no |
| 21:26.13 | carols | aavendan: nope |
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| 21:26.24 | aavendan | ah ok, thanks :) |
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| 21:28.31 | demosdemon | so… who can't wait till Monday |
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| 21:28.34 | demosdemon | I surely can't |
| 21:28.48 | meflin | yes you can |
| 21:28.58 | Applify | after the bug mail, i cant.. |
| 21:29.14 | demosdemon | well, I mean I can cause I have finals next week |
| 21:29.14 | aavendan | impossible to wait after that! |
| 21:29.23 | meflin | Applify: sorry to see you pass on then |
| 21:29.57 | Applify | :) |
| 21:29.57 | Applify | meflin: ill have to wait nonetheless |
| 21:30.13 | meflin | oh not going to drop dead? then I guess you can :D |
| 21:30.18 | ChrisCTX | I didn't sleep last night from the excitement u.u |
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| 21:30.34 | ChrisCTX | then I found out they will reveal on Monday |
| 21:30.46 | Tomkiewicz | what a "bug mail"? |
| 21:30.55 | meflin | !emails |
| 21:30.56 | gsocbot | meflin: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 21:31.11 | meflin | a sanfu |
| 21:31.39 | demosdemon | sanfu? is that a sandisk snafu? |
| 21:31.51 | meflin | some students got none, some got more then aps .. no correlation to even the state at the time |
| 21:32.16 | aleek | keep calm and code ~o~ |
| 21:32.24 | carols | Uli-: did you get my email? |
| 21:32.33 | aavendan | hahaha keep calm and code |
| 21:32.35 | meflin | but lots and lots of people who did not remember the sage advice "DONT PANIC" |
| 21:33.08 | aleek | keep calm and dont panic! |
| 21:33.50 | agoldson | "keep calm and code" (TM). nice tshirt... |
| 21:34.05 | aleek | agoldson: challenge accepted :D |
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| 21:34.09 | freakolowsky | sign me up for one |
| 21:34.29 | Applify | that could be printed on the gsoc tee |
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| 21:35.34 | nrb | !logs |
| 21:35.34 | gsocbot | nrb: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 21:38.18 | spM__ | !emails |
| 21:38.18 | gsocbot | spM__: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now. |
| 21:39.47 | freakolowsky | dang ... low bat on the phone |
| 21:41.54 | freakolowsky | bb |
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| 22:09.18 | gsocbot | ShDI: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23. |
| 22:09.44 | Wajahat | !log |
| 22:09.44 | gsocbot | Wajahat: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
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| 22:09.59 | Wajahat | whoami |
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| 22:10.09 | Wajahat | !whoami |
| 22:10.09 | gsocbot | Wajahat: I don't recognize you. |
| 22:10.59 | Wajahat | Is there a way to view the logs of gsoc duplication meeting? |
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| 22:12.14 | valorie | !logs | Wajahat |
| 22:12.14 | gsocbot | Wajahat: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 22:12.40 | Wajahat | It only shows logs till 19th April |
| 22:13.08 | meflin | the show up once a day |
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| 22:26.15 | aleek | ojoj:( |
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| 23:29.15 | gravito | !logs |
| 23:29.16 | gsocbot | gravito: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 23:29.33 | gravito | !next |
| 23:29.34 | gsocbot | gravito: "next" is Students: keep impressing your mentors; accepted proposals will be announced 19:00 UTC April 23. |
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