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| 06:08.27 | ankit | wow this room is very quite this year :) |
| 06:10.15 | robinsmidsrod | ankit: I think it moves in chunks |
| 06:10.18 | thebolt | people are busy working ;) |
| 06:10.32 | robinsmidsrod | sometimes there is a lot of activity, and sometimes it's quite quiet |
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| 06:15.45 | Ivanovic | most folks in the US are probably asleep and the folks in europe are busy getting to work or working |
| 06:15.57 | Ivanovic | so it would be surprising if it was busy in here at this time |
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| 06:18.41 | naman22 | shhhhhh man at work |
| 06:19.13 | florianv | Hello, I'm wondering if we have to fill the additional informations about our project for the 18th May because this might change later |
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| 06:42.49 | wtachi | now I wish my B.S. were in 'Undeclared'... |
| 06:43.04 | wtachi | florianv: you should be able to revise it throughout the summer |
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| 06:43.18 | wtachi | in fact, I seem to be able to edit my additional information from last year |
| 06:44.19 | florianv | ok, thanks :) |
| 06:44.40 | wtachi | np |
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| 11:36.18 | manu4543 | !logs |
| 11:36.19 | gsocbot | manu4543: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 11:40.46 | manu4543 | okay logs checked no one received welcome package yet |
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| 11:45.51 | flaushy | or they manage to keep it to themselves :) |
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| 13:13.24 | SeriousWorm | alright so apparently my package was shipped to my city on the 27th but this year there was no fedex guy delivering it |
| 13:13.42 | SeriousWorm | instead, it went through my local postal office and of course nobody rang or called or anything, they just put a small notice in my post box which I check every 2 weeks or so |
| 13:13.56 | SeriousWorm | and it says I have 5 working days, starting from the 28th to pick it up :| |
| 13:13.58 | SeriousWorm | stupid postal service |
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| 13:14.30 | SeriousWorm | and to make it even better, the postal office is right at the edge of the city, and of course I don't have a car.. so that'll be two hours of riding public transport and walking |
| 13:14.32 | SeriousWorm | great :| |
| 13:16.17 | aleek | hmm, have some packages been already sent? I thought, that welcome-packgaes are going to be send on 21th May |
| 13:17.13 | SeriousWorm | really? then what did i get from sweden? it's not like people randomly send me packages from sweden :D |
| 13:17.18 | SeriousWorm | i'm in croatia |
| 13:21.47 | aleek | SeriousWorm: apparently they randomly did:P |
| 13:21.50 | aleek | :D:D |
| 13:21.59 | SeriousWorm | how can you be sure? |
| 13:22.17 | SeriousWorm | it doesn't really make sense for packages to be only sent on 21.5. because that's the date when payments get sent to students |
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| 13:24.23 | Al_Da_Best | Pretty sure Carol said something along the lines of packages being shipped when students were accepted, maybe give or take a day |
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| 14:58.11 | nemo | So, a student reports the first 2 weeks will be spent with graduation activities, and rental of his property. |
| 14:58.17 | nemo | Should I be worried? |
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| 15:03.45 | aleek | nemo: most os us will. USA's holiday starts earlier that europeans. For example, my session exams ends at 8th of June |
| 15:04.34 | aleek | if there werent euro 2012 in Poland, session would end in the end of July ;) |
| 15:08.30 | nemo | nonetheless, you'd think one could manage part time at least |
| 15:08.49 | nemo | well, let's see what those who've mentored priot GSoCs think |
| 15:09.13 | aleek | hmm, I have just recieved and Im going to work part time, as much as I can |
| 15:09.34 | aleek | recieved hardware for project* |
| 15:10.11 | nemo | I'm more questioning a report that says nothing will be done for 2 weeks, due to graduation and other life distractions. |
| 15:10.21 | nemo | Just wondering if it is a warning sign. |
| 15:10.35 | nemo | Wondering if people understand that this is, in essence, their summer job |
| 15:11.16 | nemo | anyway. as mentioned, would like to see what prior GSoC mentors and I guess, the admins, think. |
| 15:11.33 | aleek | my org (freebsd) required to list all events that will interfere SoC |
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| 15:11.45 | aleek | and we listed all exams etc |
| 15:12.16 | guifre | I heard some legal issues regarding commiting our code to servers hosted in the US, should I be worried |
| 15:12.51 | sharvey | I think mostly if you own the server |
| 15:12.54 | sharvey | and it's in the US |
| 15:13.52 | gevaerts | nemo: this is the first you heard about this? |
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| 15:16.36 | nemo | gevaerts: well. not my student. but I don't think there was advance notice of this large an extent of time, I'd have to check |
| 15:17.06 | sharvey | :/ I put down my timeline in rather great detail |
| 15:18.05 | kai | nemo: and, looking at the rest of the schedule, are there any provisions for making up on the time lost? |
| 15:18.25 | kai | ideally something you can checkpoint before the mid-term eval? |
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| 15:18.43 | nemo | digs up the proposal |
| 15:19.27 | gevaerts | I'd say having to take two weeks out due to study related things isn't uncommon at all, but the student has to explain how he'll deal with this (starting half-time during the bonding period is one common way), at proposal time. I'd say only mentioning this *now* is a serious problem. |
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| 15:20.12 | nemo | gevaerts: ah. AFAIK there was no mention of starting half-time last month |
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| 15:21.55 | nemo | gevaerts: hm. ok. as noted, not mine, so I hadn't looked over proposal in detail. indicates a late starting date |
| 15:22.01 | gevaerts | If the proposal mentions this two week gap and no workaround, I'd say you can't complain a lot. If it doesn't mention anything, I'd say you should ask why this is |
| 15:22.26 | nemo | gevaerts: yeah. does seem to be the latter. oh well. not a big deal. I'm not an admin, and isn't my student. just being nosy |
| 15:22.39 | nemo | er |
| 15:22.42 | nemo | s/latter/former/ |
| 15:22.42 | nemo | :D |
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| 16:38.33 | carols | hooray |
| 16:38.37 | carols | serves coffee |
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| 16:44.10 | censorydep | drinks coffee (so needed) |
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| 16:44.57 | carols | hey censorydep |
| 16:45.01 | carols | did you have a good weekend? |
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| 16:45.32 | censorydep | I did. It was a good combination of relaxing and productive. LOTs of work got done. How about yours? |
| 16:45.50 | carols | it was good too. did a lot of stuff around my house. i'm building a standing desk :-) |
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| 16:46.18 | censorydep | Oooh, nice! I still need to get one of those for home. First have to find a place to put it... |
| 16:46.50 | carols | yeah, nice to finally be in a house with a proper office :-) |
| 16:47.00 | carols | also enjoying this wonderful san francisco weather :-) |
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| 16:47.28 | censorydep | I bet. I definitely enjoyed having an office once upon a time. ;-) And yes, the weather has been AMAZING the past few days. |
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| 16:48.11 | carols | indeed |
| 16:48.20 | carols | guess i'm glad not to have gone out of town after all |
| 16:48.23 | carols | but it's too bad. |
| 16:49.13 | censorydep | yeah, me too, and agreed. It would have been awesome. Ultimately, I'm glad I stuck around, though. |
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| 16:50.34 | carols | yep. |
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| 16:58.43 | |Kev| | censorydep / carols, re: standing desks. Do you (want to) use them exclusively, or swap to and fro'? I tried at a make-shift standing desk for a while and I could only cope with working short periods without going to lie down to give my back a rest. |
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| 16:59.02 | |Kev| | s/tried at/tried working at/ |
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| 16:59.09 | carols | |Kev|: i use them exclusively. i already have one at work and now i'm building the one for home too |
| 16:59.12 | carols | sitting hurts :-P |
| 16:59.30 | censorydep | |Kev| I generally use one full time. It did take me a couple of weeks to work up to full time standing from full time sitting. |
| 17:00.47 | |Kev| | Thanks. I'll have to work out a way to give it a try again. |
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| 17:01.40 | censorydep | For a while at home, I just had a milk crate on top of my kitchen table. It was enough to raise my laptop up to a standing height. Was a cheap way to have a temporary desk at the house. |
| 17:01.46 | carols | nowadays when i go to conferences and sit all day i feel really sore at the end of the day. |
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| 17:02.51 | carols | oh, |Kev|, i should also mention i stand on an anti-fatigue mat |
| 17:02.55 | carols | not just straight on the floor |
| 17:03.03 | carols | that might help you. |
| 17:03.52 | |Kev| | censorydep: My setup was a bunch of cardboard boxes with a shelf on top when I tried it. One of the big problems was using my laptop instead of my workstation, which killed productivity for me a bit. Different OS and I have trouble being as productive in my non-favourite environment. |
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| 17:03.59 | |Kev| | carols: Ah, thanks. *Googles* |
| 17:03.59 | MatthewWilkes | anti-fatigue mat? I guess that doesn't help with being bone-idle? |
| 17:04.10 | carols | MatthewWilkes: maybe not. |
| 17:04.16 | MatthewWilkes | otherwise I'd be buyin' |
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| 17:06.38 | |Kev| | carols: You mean this kind of stuff? http://www.specialistmats.co.uk/anti-fatigue-mats.html |
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| 17:07.03 | carols | |Kev|: indeed i do. |
| 17:07.23 | carols | i use a different supplier, but it's the same idea. |
| 17:07.24 | |Kev| | I suspect my better half would shoot me if I bought something with yellow safety edges and put it in the study :) |
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| 17:07.42 | carols | |Kev|: emphasis on "better" half. :-) |
| 17:07.48 | |Kev| | No doubt. |
| 17:09.31 | dberkholz | carols: next step is the treadmill? |
| 17:09.43 | |Kev| | dberkholz: That appeals to me more than a standing desk does, strangely. |
| 17:09.46 | carols | dberkholz: indeed. i've actually been looking into them. |
| 17:10.01 | |Kev| | I briefly looked at it before $BETTER_HALF said No. |
| 17:10.21 | |Kev| | Walking's less uncomfortable than standing :) |
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| 17:11.50 | |Kev| | I wonder if I'd have got on better with standing desks last time if I wasn't quite so unfit these days :) |
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| 17:50.21 | saheb37 | can anyone tellme whats the procedure for taxform and enrollment form |
| 17:50.42 | roccivic | print, sign, scan, upload to melange |
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| 17:51.00 | carols | what roccivic said. |
| 17:51.48 | saheb37 | i mean wat to get printed? how to create a tax form |
| 17:52.12 | carols | saheb37: its all on the student info page. |
| 17:52.34 | vikash | saheb37, the necessary links were also provided in carols welcome email :-) |
| 17:52.41 | carols | that too. |
| 17:53.07 | vikash | just check to which county you will pay tax? US or outside US |
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| 20:33.46 | JordiGH | So guys, what's more free, the GPL or BSD-like licenses? |
| 20:34.02 | Catfish_Man | Beerware |
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| 20:34.07 | gevaerts | JordiGH: too quiet in your opinion? :) |
| 20:34.07 | carols | JordiGH: is this a topic coming up for a student on a gsoc project? |
| 20:34.16 | JordiGH | No, gevaerts nailed it. |
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| 20:36.08 | gevaerts | drinks some tea |
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| 20:40.14 | mdim | hi folks |
| 20:40.31 | carols | hi mdim |
| 20:40.45 | mdim | I'd say I'm in rather peculiar situation... I didn't expect it to be so... here it goes... |
| 20:40.59 | mdim | I've been accepted to the PhD at the University of Utah |
| 20:41.10 | carols | mdim: you're a gsoc student this year? |
| 20:41.30 | mdim | carols: I hope so. I've been accepted |
| 20:41.37 | carols | mdim: then yes, you are. |
| 20:41.50 | mdim | at the moment, I'm in Croatia, but am supposed to move to Utah during the GSoC |
| 20:41.59 | carols | ok... |
| 20:43.11 | mdim | am I eligible at all? Hopefully, I'll have my F-1 visa in a week, but as far as I got it from FAQ, I should apply for CPT |
| 20:43.14 | mdim | am I right? |
| 20:43.49 | carols | mdim: if you are asking whether your visa will allow you to do gsoc, that's between you and the visa officials. |
| 20:44.16 | mdim | carols: yeah, that's my question. Ok, I'll try to sort it out |
| 20:44.23 | carols | mdim: great |
| 20:45.31 | mdim | I'm not sure if my university advisor understood the whole GSoC, but she advised me to ask Google for H1B visa |
| 20:45.43 | carols | mdim: google doesn't provide visas for gsoc. |
| 20:45.51 | mdim | ok |
| 20:49.45 | mdim | carols: is working on GSoC project considered as a full-time job? |
| 20:51.54 | carols | mdim: i don't know, how many hours have you and your mentor agreed you'll be working per week? |
| 20:54.11 | mdim | carols: I'm not sure if we have defined it yet |
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| 20:54.34 | carols | mdim: then i don't know whether it's full time :-) full time is typically, although certainly not always, defined as working 40 hours per week |
| 20:55.43 | |Kev| | mdim: I know some orgs (we do) include in the application template that we expect students to put in a full work week. |
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| 21:29.51 | sharvey | mdim: you should also probably talk to the international student office at your new university |
| 21:30.06 | sharvey | mdim: they probably have dealt with such things before |
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| 21:35.31 | mdim | sharvey: I talked to grad students advisor, and she talked to the international students' office. Because she said that I should ask Google for H-1B visa, I don't think they dealt with such things before |
| 21:35.58 | sharvey | I think she doesn't understand what gsoc is |
| 21:37.38 | sharvey | mdim: I believe also it would be too late to apply for H-1B anyway |
| 21:39.40 | mdim | sharvey: it doesn't matter if it is or it isn't since google doesn't provide visa for gsoc |
| 21:39.57 | sharvey | yeah |
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| 22:43.22 | carols | serves some tea and cookies |
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