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| 01:37.48 | sasinda | Hi I am a student, my enrollment form does not get uploaded to melange. I tried every day. The tax form got uploaded. The page always say "uploading 0% Waiting for ..." |
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| 01:46.39 | sasinda | ok it got uploaded when I changed the file name to a shorter one. |
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| 13:39.23 | Jooles | Hey guys. I just got my package from Google this morning and I'm trying to transfer the initial funds from the card to my bank. I've found the routing number that I need but does anyone know whether the account number is just my account number or if I need to append the sort code to the front of the account number? |
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| 14:01.46 | dfighter | wow so they started arriving in EU too, nice! |
| 14:02.03 | SeriousWorm | Jooles: how did you get the package? fedex? which country? |
| 14:02.17 | Jooles | FedEx and I'm in the UK |
| 14:02.19 | SeriousWorm | cool, thx |
| 14:02.22 | Jooles | np :) |
| 14:03.01 | dfighter | Jooles did they call you or just suddenly appeared and handed it over? |
| 14:03.41 | Jooles | dfighter: I don't know, I was at my last exam when it arrived. I think they just showed up at the door though |
| 14:03.50 | ChrisOelmueller | , wearing sunglasses and muttering something about The Carols |
| 14:03.57 | dfighter | haha |
| 14:04.53 | dfighter | bet they were on their way to a tea party in Boston when suddenly they found themselves recruited and on their way to the other side of the big pond |
| 14:07.20 | MatthewWilkes | dfighter: The tea party is a very sad occasion |
| 14:07.24 | MatthewWilkes | all that lovely tea wasted |
| 14:08.46 | dfighter | indeed MatthewWilkes |
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| 14:09.06 | dfighter | but then awesome symbolism |
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| 14:09.11 | dfighter | if you associate brits with the tea |
| 14:09.13 | dfighter | :P |
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| 14:50.58 | Jooles | Well, that was a robot that made me want to punch it. It's not like I'm having to make an international call to do this or anything, by all means waste over 2 minutes repeating the same information I don't care about in an annoyingly cheerful voice. Bah! |
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| 14:50.59 | gorancia | if I am not USA student I just need to send foreign student form right? |
| 14:51.05 | gorancia | no tax documents needed... |
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| 14:52.43 | Jooles | gorancia: That's right, though you'll need to sort out tax with your local tax agency |
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| 14:53.28 | gorancia | since the card is registered in another country, I was told I wont need to pay any tax in my country |
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| 14:53.45 | gorancia | just some small provision when I cash |
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| 14:55.58 | MatthewWilkes | gorancia: If that's what your tax office has told you then congratulations |
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| 14:56.09 | MatthewWilkes | gorancia: I don't know many countries that would agree |
| 14:56.24 | gorancia | yep so I was told |
| 14:56.37 | gorancia | if the card was registered in my country i would have paid |
| 14:56.50 | gorancia | but since it is registered on my name but in USA I wont have to pay tax |
| 14:57.07 | gorancia | just that small amount of money you usually pay when you cash you know |
| 14:57.34 | MatthewWilkes | gorancia: We can't confirm that, it's between you and your local tax office |
| 14:57.49 | MatthewWilkes | Personally, I'd want that in writing ;) |
| 14:57.53 | gorancia | oki doki |
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| 15:31.29 | Jooles | Lol. Just called the tax office and they had no idea what to do. The first girl was just really confused and passed me on to her superviser I think who's now hung up to look into it and figure out whether I'll need to be taxed or not |
| 15:32.00 | gevaerts | Jooles: they probably think you're very taxing |
| 15:32.15 | MatthewWilkes | Jooles: HMRC are usually quite good about this sort of stuff |
| 15:32.21 | Jooles | gevaerts: That wa awful. I approve :) |
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| 15:32.55 | gevaerts | Jooles: you're welcome :) |
| 15:32.58 | Jooles | MatthewWilkes: Yeah I like HMRC. The guy said probably it won't need to be taxed but he's just not sure whether it being a short thing over summer makes a difference |
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| 17:14.16 | sharvey | carols: re: google prepaid card, is it possible to add money onto the card? |
| 17:14.23 | carols | sharvey: no |
| 17:14.27 | sharvey | ok |
| 17:14.30 | carols | you should take all the money off it immediately |
| 17:14.35 | carols | don't leave any money on it at any time |
| 17:14.47 | sharvey | ok |
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| 17:17.16 | sharvey | probably after it expires it makes for a good momento to hang :) |
| 17:17.57 | dfighter | make a necklace from it! |
| 17:18.03 | dfighter | ok maybe it's a bad idea |
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| 17:21.23 | gorancia | what do I write on the Printed Name part, for the foreign student document? |
| 17:21.31 | gorancia | my full name? |
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| 17:22.25 | AmberJ_ | gorancia, I wrote my full name... |
| 17:22.26 | carols | gorancia: yes |
| 17:22.47 | gorancia | ok i was confused by the printed part |
| 17:23.04 | gorancia | I filled it all with pen |
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| 17:25.35 | fxrh | carols: why should we take all money off it immediately? |
| 17:26.11 | carols | fxrh: because these cards are prone to theft and fraud. |
| 17:26.32 | carols | treat them like cash. you want all your cash in your own bank account, not out on some random card. |
| 17:27.03 | carols | and yet, every year, there's about half a dozen students who email me in a panic because their card has been stolen and there's $2000 still on the card that they need to cancel now. |
| 17:27.10 | carols | sips some tea |
| 17:27.16 | fxrh | but isn't that the case for all credit cards? |
| 17:27.24 | carols | fxrh: yes. so remove the money. |
| 17:27.39 | fxrh | ok |
| 17:28.16 | gorancia | is there anything special to do to get the money? Can I just go to a bank terminal and cash it all? What is the pin code? |
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| 17:28.50 | carols | gorancia: you have to set up the pin code. and yes, you can go to a bank and withdraw the money. the instructions are with the card. |
| 17:28.52 | jsalatas | lol. Given the situation in Greece maybe it's better to trust a random card than my own bank :) |
| 17:30.57 | dfighter | jsalatas or open an account outside the EU |
| 17:31.05 | dfighter | and put the money there |
| 17:31.11 | naman22 | is taking cash via ATM is the only option? can't we trasfer all the money to our bank? |
| 17:31.12 | gorancia | in that case I will withdraw the money the first day as they come, kinda scared by the whole steeling thing |
| 17:31.21 | dfighter | since if your country defaults that might take us all with you |
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| 19:41.46 | Anshul319 | Anyone in india |
| 19:41.51 | Anshul319 | ?? |
| 19:42.00 | gevaerts | About a billion people |
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| 20:16.05 | JordiGH | !timeline |
| 20:16.05 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 20:17.47 | JordiGH | When's the midterm date? I don't see it there. |
| 20:17.53 | JordiGH | Midterm evaluation. |
| 20:18.22 | dhaun | July 9 / July 13 |
| 20:18.23 | JordiGH | Never mind, found it. July 8. |
| 20:18.59 | dhaun | hands JordiGH his glasses |
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| 20:19.15 | JordiGH | :-) |
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| 21:00.15 | gorancia | can you guys share storied for jobs after gsoc? maybe you know of some people in previous gsoc years getting good jobs after the gsoc experience? |
| 21:00.21 | gorancia | stories* |
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| 21:04.01 | aleek | they all end up homeless |
| 21:04.10 | aleek | true story :D |
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| 21:06.00 | gorancia | haha |
| 21:06.05 | gorancia | I doubt |
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| 21:17.45 | dfighter | I don't really get why some people think that just because of GSOC they will get a great job :\ |
| 21:18.29 | simonl | dfighter: Because you can write "Google" on your resume |
| 21:18.36 | simonl | Magic word! |
| 21:19.10 | dfighter | well at any good employer that will only get you noticed at most |
| 21:19.29 | dfighter | then the interviews will tell if they need you or not |
| 21:20.01 | simonl | I view it as a good way to get to write some open source code |
| 21:20.01 | dfighter | I guess some people don't know about this... |
| 21:20.12 | dfighter | simonl indeed |
| 21:20.13 | dfighter | same |
| 21:20.23 | simonl | Employers around here seem to like that though, so there could be a correlation :) |
| 21:20.55 | dfighter | well as I said it distinguishes you at the most |
| 21:21.02 | simonl | ie, if I show them code that I wrote, many employers think that is _very_ valuable as a skill indicator |
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| 21:21.14 | dfighter | yea |
| 21:21.28 | dfighter | tbh I just read a hr article about this a few days ago |
| 21:21.35 | dfighter | that the future interviews will be projects |
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| 21:21.54 | dfighter | since even the multiple rounds of interviews won't tell the employer how you will work in their team |
| 21:21.59 | dfighter | let me see if I can find it |
| 21:22.05 | dfighter | pretty sure I saw it on linkedin |
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| 21:22.40 | dfighter | http://blogs.hbr.org/schrage/2012/05/projects-are-the-new-job-inter.html |
| 21:22.43 | simonl | here, temporary hires (maybe 3-6 months) are becoming more common |
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| 21:23.02 | rajul | dfighter: totally agreed!!! |
| 21:23.12 | simonl | after that, it's full time or nothing |
| 21:23.26 | dfighter | I see |
| 21:23.57 | dfighter | I think here in Hungary you always get to go thru a trial period |
| 21:24.00 | dfighter | of 1-2-3 months |
| 21:24.07 | dfighter | during which they can just let you go |
| 21:24.11 | dfighter | anytime, for any reason |
| 21:25.07 | rajul | dfighter: hmm....so how d oyou people find full-time employment?? |
| 21:25.12 | simonl | AFAIK, that's not how it works here (Sweden) |
| 21:25.38 | rajul | simonl: yeah..not here in India too!!! |
| 21:25.59 | simonl | mostly because the employment laws are super-protective of employees |
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| 21:26.21 | dfighter | rajul well it's full time employment, and they can keep you forever if they want after the trial period |
| 21:26.40 | simonl | though I don't know the specifics on these kinds of trial hiring schemes |
| 21:26.50 | rajul | dfighter: hmm...okay then i suppose you are just talking about the probation period |
| 21:27.06 | dfighter | yea maybe probation is a better term for it |
| 21:27.15 | rajul | which is there anywhere you go...in any company you start |
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| 21:27.38 | dfighter | altough it always reminds me of people ON probation e.g.: rapists, murderers, etc :D |
| 21:27.40 | simonl | not here :) |
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| 21:28.10 | rajul | dfighter: hehehe.....coming to think of it...it does rings such a bell... |
| 21:28.21 | simonl | that's why there is a move towards two-step employment here: first time limited, and after that maybe full time |
| 21:28.38 | rajul | simonl: first time limited?? |
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| 21:28.45 | rajul | what is that?? |
| 21:29.03 | simonl | yeah, so you get a job where they say you'll work for them for 6 months |
| 21:29.12 | simonl | after that the contract is up |
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| 21:29.37 | simonl | and if they are pleased with your performance, they can offer you another full time job without such a limitation |
| 21:30.06 | rajul | hmm....i see |
| 21:30.37 | rajul | but personally i would be horrified to work in such a setting |
| 21:30.48 | simonl | Swedish emplyment laws are crazy restrictive |
| 21:30.58 | rajul | it seems like you never have any job security or assurance |
| 21:31.22 | dfighter | in this world you never have that |
| 21:31.29 | simonl | last I heard we still had a rule stating that a company needing to let people go due to financial troubles has to fire the most recently employed person first |
| 21:32.07 | simonl | even if that person is the kind of super-star that could save the company |
| 21:32.17 | rajul | simonl: are we talking about this recession period... |
| 21:32.42 | simonl | rajul: for example |
| 21:33.23 | rajul | hmm....but then it was not only sweden but all over the world.. |
| 21:33.30 | rajul | but anyways such things |
| 21:33.48 | rajul | like employment policies start in some country |
| 21:34.01 | rajul | and then it takes no time to catch up all around |
| 21:34.02 | simonl | rajul: I highly doubt other countries force companies to let people go in reverse hiring order |
| 21:34.29 | rajul | like i think this two-tier recruitment shall soon catch up everywhere |
| 21:35.29 | rajul | simonl: yeah..maybe they are not too harsh...but this firing of people arbitrarily happened everywhere...as much as I heard |
| 21:36.59 | simonl | rajul: I guess at some point there is not much else to than to let many people go and at that point picking the right one to fire get less important/too expensive |
| 21:37.50 | rajul | simonl: yeah...i guess the same... |
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