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| 06:28.07 | gsocbot | SonicX: "wisdom" is Sorry, drinks are like melange. You get what you get, and if you want something else, you help out :) |
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| 09:16.46 | gsocbot | manu4543: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 10:34.50 | mdim | hey, is t-shirt included in the welcome package? |
| 10:35.55 | Stepan777 | no |
| 10:37.27 | scr4ve | by the way, the credit card design is awesome. |
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| 10:39.01 | mdim | Stepan777: have you received the welcome package? |
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| 10:45.01 | simonl | scr4ve: agreed! |
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| 10:47.13 | Stepan777 | mdim, yes |
| 10:47.30 | Stepan777 | in monday |
| 10:47.46 | Stepan777 | need to go now |
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| 13:31.15 | somaen | Djeez, that CitiBank-automated phone thingie was slow. |
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| 13:33.46 | alex|D-Guy | somaen, but it worked -- had to to it three times cause I didn't understand everything :D |
| 13:34.27 | somaen | Sure it worked, I was just tired of hearing about the SMS-service they have |
| 13:34.27 | somaen | which is stated every chance they get. |
| 13:34.39 | somaen | ... and is odd to advertise when I called the "outside the US"-line. |
| 13:34.50 | alex|D-Guy | haven't you used skype? |
| 13:35.05 | somaen | yup |
| 13:35.15 | alex|D-Guy | so, why sms service? |
| 13:35.16 | alex|D-Guy | :D |
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| 13:36.02 | somaen | Well, when I called the line, every other thing the automatic said was "If you want to check your balance, you might like to try our SMS service...... just text .... to .... standard text messaging rates apply" |
| 13:36.17 | somaen | Which is kind of useless when I'm on skype. |
| 13:36.33 | somaen | And, I already knew my balance, I just wanted to set a PIN. |
| 13:36.34 | alex|D-Guy | oh ok, but yeah you can use the citibank site to do that |
| 13:36.37 | alex|D-Guy | oh ok |
| 13:37.21 | somaen | Ah, that i didn't know |
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| 13:37.33 | alex|D-Guy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.40 | alex|D-Guy | not to set your pin |
| 13:37.43 | somaen | Now, the next problem is to get the money out of the card, and into a proper bank account. |
| 13:38.19 | somaen | Probably losing 3% or so to exchange fees in the process, but c'est la vie. |
| 13:38.41 | alex|D-Guy | are you living in euro zone? |
| 13:39.09 | alex|D-Guy | just checked the currency conversion... 500$ is ~390 'only' :/ |
| 13:39.18 | somaen | Nope, just outside it, norway :P |
| 13:39.45 | alex|D-Guy | oh |
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| 13:40.45 | somaen | Wow, the USD has increased a bit in value, great. |
| 13:41.01 | alex|D-Guy | going to check it again :) |
| 13:41.14 | JordiGH | Great for some, awful for others. Isn't Forex a zero-sum game? |
| 13:41.43 | alex|D-Guy | 391.something euro...great :/ |
| 13:41.44 | alex|D-Guy | :D |
| 13:42.03 | somaen | I visited the US earlier this year, then the USD was at 5.50 |
| 13:42.08 | somaen | no it's close to 5.90 |
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| 13:42.24 | somaen | win both ways for me. |
| 13:42.49 | somaen | Quite possibly worse news for those that do exports. |
| 13:43.20 | simonl | Wasn't there someone on the students mailing list who used bitcoin to get lower fees? |
| 13:43.32 | simonl | checks |
| 13:43.38 | alex|D-Guy | :D wasn't me |
| 13:44.08 | somaen | Either way this has to become NOK at some point to be usefull for me, atleast for taxes. |
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| 13:45.00 | simonl | yeah, probably there's some exchange fees there anyway |
| 13:45.07 | gevaerts | I'd say gsoc is useful if only to teach people that money transfer isn't trivial or free :) |
| 13:45.24 | simonl | and I think that the bitcoin exchanges probably have some fees themselves too :) |
| 13:45.37 | alex|D-Guy | in other words..it's best for US students ;D |
| 13:45.44 | gevaerts | alex|D-Guy: not always |
| 13:45.54 | somaen | Well, it's been rather trivial for all my stuff earlier, paypal for all it's problems atleast makes it easy to push money to foreign countries. |
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| 13:46.17 | alex|D-Guy | but how to load money from my card to paypal? |
| 13:46.24 | dfighter | you can't |
| 13:46.27 | somaen | Attach it to the paypal account? |
| 13:46.29 | dfighter | and it's not even allowed |
| 13:46.30 | gevaerts | alex|D-Guy: in strong dollar years non-US people have an advantage |
| 13:46.30 | simonl | alex|D-Guy: I think not... The people from india get a LOT of value for those $5515 |
| 13:46.37 | somaen | dfighter: Not allowed? |
| 13:46.40 | dfighter | yes |
| 13:46.48 | somaen | where is that stated? |
| 13:46.55 | dfighter | read the rules of paypal |
| 13:47.10 | alex|D-Guy | I tried yesterday..but it seems only ok to charge money from direct bank accounts |
| 13:47.20 | dfighter | you can't do cash advance from creditcards, nor help others to do so |
| 13:47.21 | somaen | Hmm? I already have a debit card attached to my paypal-account, I don't see the prooblem. |
| 13:47.28 | simonl | of course, not only india, there are more countries with low prices :) |
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| 13:47.31 | alex|D-Guy | well that's not the problem |
| 13:47.37 | somaen | Ah, but this is a prepaid _CREDIT_ card ok. |
| 13:47.38 | dfighter | somaen but that's not loading it to paypal |
| 13:47.49 | alex|D-Guy | dfighter, correct |
| 13:47.58 | dfighter | linking is not the same as using it to load money onto paypal |
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| 13:48.47 | alex|D-Guy | but perhaps it's useful to purchase stuff from ebay, or other stuff... I mean, yay it's using your debit card without taxes and shit |
| 13:48.49 | dfighter | you could make another account and pay to yourself, but that will probably raise some red flags, and you get your funds raised |
| 13:48.53 | alex|D-Guy | (hopefully lol) :D |
| 13:49.04 | dfighter | eh |
| 13:49.05 | dfighter | frozen |
| 13:49.07 | dfighter | not raised |
| 13:49.08 | dfighter | xD |
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| 13:49.11 | alex|D-Guy | :D |
| 13:49.40 | simonl | dfighter: e-raised? |
| 13:49.45 | alex|D-Guy | :D |
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| 13:51.02 | dfighter | the entire thing is because credit cards have different interest rates for taking cash out of an atm, and purchasing stuff with them |
| 13:51.17 | dfighter | so if you were to pay yourself with it, you'd basically commit a credit card fraud |
| 13:52.31 | dfighter | ( at least in the US, not sure about here in Hungary, since I only have a debit card ) |
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| 13:59.02 | somaen | the credit cards usually insure purchases in some way, so that makes sense |
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| 14:09.08 | alex|D-Guy | after the 25th may |
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| 16:38.58 | rajul | hi all |
| 16:39.13 | rajul | i find myself in a very strange situation |
| 16:39.18 | sharvey | ? |
| 16:39.28 | rajul | my welcome package is delivered wrongly |
| 16:39.39 | sharvey | how so? |
| 16:39.46 | rajul | to another student in a nearby town |
| 16:39.56 | rajul | sharvey: i dont know |
| 16:40.04 | sharvey | how did you find this out? |
| 16:40.05 | rajul | but i just got a call from him |
| 16:40.25 | rajul | this guy is also GSoCer |
| 16:40.36 | rajul | so he figured out to find me and call |
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| 16:40.52 | sharvey | you might want to e-mail carol about that |
| 16:41.05 | neo01124 | he received his package ? |
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| 16:41.23 | rajul | yeah he received his package |
| 16:41.26 | rajul | as well as mine |
| 16:41.36 | rajul | sharvey: yeah i mailed her about it |
| 16:41.47 | rajul | but i looks she will be away till the 21st |
| 16:41.56 | rajul | i got back an auto-reply |
| 16:42.00 | sharvey | of june? |
| 16:42.06 | rajul | and she can reply on 22nd |
| 16:42.07 | sharvey | it's 22 of may today |
| 16:42.09 | rajul | no of may |
| 16:42.12 | neo01124 | your package had his address or yours? |
| 16:42.18 | rajul | but as the auto reply is working still |
| 16:42.31 | sharvey | if you wait a few hours, she should be awake soon |
| 16:42.33 | rajul | i figure she may be away today too |
| 16:42.49 | rajul | neo01124: his...that is the big problem |
| 16:43.01 | rajul | like if the addresses are mixed up |
| 16:43.14 | rajul | then he may also receive my future packages |
| 16:43.18 | sharvey | rajul: it's about 9 or 10AM pacific time, she will probably get back to you fairly soon |
| 16:43.40 | rajul | sharvey: lets hope so |
| 16:43.41 | neo01124 | dont worry they'll find a way to fix it .. |
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| 16:44.18 | sharvey | rajul: at least the other person was honest enough to try and contact you |
| 16:44.19 | sharvey | :) |
| 16:44.33 | rajul | neo01124: lets hope so too...but anyways thanks!! |
| 16:44.53 | rajul | sharvey: yeah....it was really awesome of him!!! |
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| 16:45.14 | rajul | i just don't understand who could screw this up |
| 16:45.20 | rajul | Google or FedEx |
| 16:45.47 | sharvey | are your names similar at all? |
| 16:46.01 | rajul | yeah we share same lastname |
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| 16:46.53 | rajul | also....as my contact address and shipping address were same i did not fill in my shipping address |
| 16:47.05 | sharvey | that is really strange |
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| 16:47.19 | rajul | as the form said that it need only be filled if different from above |
| 16:47.27 | sharvey | yeah, this is fine |
| 16:47.27 | rajul | so could this be the problem??? |
| 16:47.30 | sharvey | no |
| 16:47.34 | sharvey | I don't think so? |
| 16:47.53 | sharvey | it was probably some bug somewhere |
| 16:48.08 | sharvey | (I didn't fill out both) |
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| 16:48.32 | rajul | hmm...yeah just hope so....and hope they sort this out!! |
| 16:48.34 | sharvey | rajul: I would wait until hearing back from carol |
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| 16:48.50 | sharvey | at least the next time for a delivery of a package is quite some time away |
| 16:49.02 | sharvey | and so long as you get your prepaid card, that's probably the most important bit |
| 16:49.15 | rajul | yeah...i am also waiting.... |
| 16:49.26 | sharvey | missing a t-shirt is one thing, missing $5000 is another |
| 16:49.46 | rajul | sharvey: hahaha...yeah right!!! |
| 16:50.05 | rajul | but still missing GSoC t-shirt would be something |
| 16:50.10 | sharvey | yeah |
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| 16:50.14 | sa1 | rajul: strange. I am also from kgp and my package was also misdelivered. |
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| 16:50.37 | rajul | sharvey: some people may trade $5000 for the t-shirt |
| 16:50.47 | rajul | sa1: what?? |
| 16:51.12 | sa1 | sa1: Your package was delivered to the wrong guy, right? |
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| 16:51.18 | sa1 | sorry rajul ^ |
| 16:51.44 | rajul | sa1: no....at the wrong address.....it had my name on it |
| 16:52.18 | rajul | sa1: yours?? |
| 16:52.28 | sa1 | Oh, my had the right address. the fedex guy still delivered it to the wrong person, who noticed the address and sent it to me. |
| 16:53.01 | nischayn22 | rajul: didn't get the package still? |
| 16:53.05 | rajul | sa1: oh...so then it was just the fedex guys mistake... |
| 16:53.13 | sa1 | rajul: Yes. |
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| 16:53.26 | rajul | nischayn22: no dude...technically not!! |
| 16:53.43 | nischayn22 | technically? |
| 16:53.55 | rajul | sa1: who are you, by the way......you a\say you are from kgp?? |
| 16:54.11 | rajul | nischayn22: yeah....actually my package is delivered |
| 16:54.21 | rajul | nischayn22: but at the wrong address |
| 16:54.31 | nischayn22 | rajul: blocked the card? |
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| 16:54.40 | sa1 | rajul: yes. I noticed you were from kgp too yesterday. |
| 16:54.59 | sa1 | I am working for buildbot. |
| 16:55.08 | rajul | nischayn22: no...should I?? |
| 16:55.32 | nischayn22 | I think you should, ask someone official though |
| 16:55.58 | nischayn22 | I don't get the point that anyone can take away the money out of the card |
| 16:56.11 | rajul | nischayn22: yeah that i have....to carol |
| 16:56.36 | rajul | nischayn22: haan and i think it is safe now with the other guy...he seemed really good |
| 16:56.48 | rajul | he called me up and told me about all this |
| 16:56.51 | nischayn22 | rajul: then its fine, don't worry |
| 16:57.12 | rajul | yeah..what worries me is that if they have my address mixed up |
| 16:57.26 | rajul | then it may be mis delivered in future too |
| 16:57.51 | nischayn22 | it happens yaar, last time I got a package from Puma they put up my friend's number, luckily he was my friend |
| 16:58.07 | nischayn22 | rajul: future is only the t-shirt right? |
| 16:58.31 | rajul | nischayn22: i hope so!! |
| 16:58.56 | rajul | sa1: great...me with Network Time!! |
| 16:59.45 | rajul | sa1: so which year are you?? |
| 17:00.07 | sa1 | rajul: nice. 2nd year. |
| 17:00.45 | rajul | nischayn22: i will get my package personally if i have to....this time |
| 17:00.59 | nischayn22 | good |
| 17:01.07 | chetan_ | rajul: You from IIT kgp? so which was the nearby town? |
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| 17:01.15 | rajul | like he is not too far...me being in Allahabad and the other person in Varanasi |
| 17:01.42 | rajul | chetan_: actually....my vacations are on..so i am at home in Allahabad!!! |
| 17:02.05 | chetan_ | Right. |
| 17:02.09 | rajul | sa1: great....me a third year....hall?? |
| 17:02.22 | sa1 | rajul: RP |
| 17:03.34 | rajul | sa1: hmm...know some people there.....so how goes...loving coding?? |
| 17:04.38 | sa1 | rajul: Sure. Come on #klug-devel some time. You'll find other people like artagnon and sanjoyd there. |
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| 17:05.22 | rajul | sa1: thanks...right on it!!! |
| 17:07.39 | Taggnostr | what is the routing number asked while doing a bank transfer with the citi cards? |
| 17:08.31 | sharvey | I think that applies only to US accounts |
| 17:08.34 | sharvey | US bank accounts |
| 17:08.35 | chetan_ | Taggnostr: You from the US or outside? |
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| 17:08.38 | chetan_ | yup |
| 17:08.58 | chetan_ | and Canada has some program too it appeasr |
| 17:08.59 | Taggnostr | chetan_, from outside, but I'm trying to transfer to an us bank |
| 17:09.17 | chetan_ | Taggnostr: So ask that US bank for the routing number |
| 17:09.24 | Taggnostr | I have the bank name, the account number, and the SWIFT code |
| 17:09.57 | sharvey | Taggnostr: you have to ask your bank for the routing number |
| 17:10.02 | Taggnostr | so every bank has its own routing number? |
| 17:10.04 | sharvey | Taggnostr: it is specific to your bank |
| 17:10.05 | sharvey | yes |
| 17:10.09 | sharvey | so it can route to your bank :P |
| 17:10.09 | chetan_ | Wait for someone, or best call up your bank for the exact details |
| 17:10.22 | Taggnostr | ok, I'll try that, thanks! |
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| 18:09.59 | breton | how were we supposed to get ACM membership? Were any emails sent? |
| 18:11.04 | inukshuk | breton: Yes. I received the membership information by e-mail. |
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| 18:11.43 | breton | inukshuk: and when? |
| 18:12.16 | inukshuk | breton: May 16, 2012 6:00:46 PM GMT+02:00 |
| 18:12.53 | inukshuk | breton: Mail was sent by acmhelp@acm.org |
| 18:13.19 | rajul | breton: i also got this mail at around the same time... |
| 18:14.31 | breton | ty, will check now |
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| 18:15.26 | rr0b | allo |
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| 18:17.39 | breton | inukshuk: rajul: what was the subject? |
| 18:18.07 | inukshuk | breton: "Welcome to ACM, Courtesy of Google" |
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| 18:19.20 | breton | nope, nothing. I think I should email carols, because I keep getting emails from acm, but it knows nothing about my email when I go to "remember password". |
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| 18:19.45 | rr0b | Hey, quick question, since the application period is over, is there still a possibility to participate in gsoc? |
| 18:19.59 | nischayn22 | rr0b: no |
| 18:20.20 | nischayn22 | rr0b: you can however still contribute code |
| 18:20.40 | rr0b | ah ic |
| 18:21.03 | rr0b | i'm kinda interested in working with a team, ive done alot of solo work =/ |
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| 18:21.34 | rr0b | mostly web, database, server side, :s |
| 18:21.39 | nischayn22 | rr0b: look at the orgs list and join their irc, you will feel like working in a team |
| 18:21.44 | breton | > Please don't email me about the welcome packages or the ACM memberships unless you have not received them by Friday, 25 May, 2012. |
| 18:21.47 | breton | oh, ok. |
| 18:22.13 | nischayn22 | rr0b: how about mediawiki? |
| 18:22.24 | nischayn22 | though I am a bit biased here |
| 18:22.37 | blast007 | rr0b: getting started working with a project is a great way to get your name out there in case you want/can participate in GSoC next year (if they do it again next year) |
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| 18:23.27 | nischayn22 | also you have enough time to try many orgs ') |
| 18:23.36 | nischayn22 | oops ;) |
| 18:23.47 | rr0b | awesome, ill check out the org list |
| 18:24.08 | rr0b | I've done alot of solo dev, some team projects would be nice i think :) |
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| 18:25.45 | nischayn22 | rr0b: you have a big world awaiting at your door :) |
| 18:26.23 | rr0b | thats for sure! |
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| 19:58.07 | forresto | hey, glad to see people hanging out in #webfwd |
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| 20:30.34 | KL-7 | hi everyone |
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| 20:32.07 | KL-7 | Recently I started receiving ACM newsletters as all other students I believe. But I didn't remember receiving any welcoming email from ACM including some information about my subscription and specifically about my ACM account. |
| 20:32.37 | KL-7 | What login and password should I use on ACM site in order to manage my email subscriptions? |
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| 21:20.52 | duy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.35 | duy_ | I have a question about google summer of code employment verification, is anyone here can help me? |
| 21:21.57 | sharvey | ? |
| 21:22.18 | sharvey | KL-7: wait till may 25th, then e-mail carol with your query |
| 21:22.27 | sharvey | (or could e-mail now, if you're getting the e-mails) |
| 21:22.47 | simonl | duy_: on irc, it is customary to ask directly (don't "ask to ask"); Go ahead and ask your question, if someone can help they will :) |
| 21:24.22 | duy_ | I need to fill out some forms, for Google Summer of Code, what should I put for employer's name, address, and phone number. Should I put Google's address or my organization address? |
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| 21:26.08 | simonl | duy_: did you see the standard letters? |
| 21:26.31 | simonl | they might have relevant information (don't remember excactly what they say atm) |
| 21:27.17 | simonl | however, I think you should talk to carol about this, just so that google have been involved in the process a bit :) |
| 21:27.43 | simonl | ... and she does not seem to be around right now |
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| 21:28.21 | duy_ | ok, thanks everyone, I'll talk to carol |
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| 21:35.26 | KL-7 | sharvey, ok, thanks |
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| 21:43.45 | uman | how much will we be paid over the summer? |
| 21:44.08 | uman | $5015 as the letter states? I seem to remember it being somewhat less |
| 21:44.17 | uman | I'm not complaining if it's more :D just want to make sure that's accurate |
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| 21:50.25 | AmberJ_ | uman, yes, 5015 |
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