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| 10:16.29 | _ke | is there any official logo for this years round of soc? |
| 10:20.51 | ThomasWaldmann | http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocLogos |
| 10:21.10 | ThomasWaldmann | can use google ;) |
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| 10:26.29 | _ke | ThomasWaldmann, thanks ;) |
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| 16:22.05 | piyush | care to help a noob someone? |
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| 16:23.22 | JordiGH | The usual etiquette in IRC is to ask and dispense with the formalities. |
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| 16:23.54 | piyush | umm...sorry but i wanted to ask some questions regading next GSoC |
| 16:24.09 | JordiGH | You're still asking to ask... just ask. |
| 16:24.44 | piyush | oh.. :D |
| 16:24.45 | piyush | When will the next GSoC will start and where can I find mentors? |
| 16:24.51 | JordiGH | It might not start. |
| 16:24.57 | piyush | why? |
| 16:25.05 | scorche|sh | piyush: Google does not announce programs ahead of time |
| 16:25.08 | JordiGH | Because Google is under no obligation to give money to people. |
| 16:25.22 | piyush | hmm....aight |
| 16:25.25 | scorche|sh | in all likelyhood, the program will continue and the timeline will be similar to this year |
| 16:25.36 | scorche|sh | however, you can never be sure until it is announced ;) |
| 16:25.40 | piyush | so...how to search for mentors? |
| 16:25.50 | scorche|sh | get involved in open source projects now! |
| 16:25.57 | JordiGH | And free projects too. |
| 16:26.05 | piyush | how and where? |
| 16:26.24 | piyush | i've only wrote some bots for irc rooms till now |
| 16:26.46 | JordiGH | What free code do you like? What languages did you write those bots in? |
| 16:26.59 | piyush | i coded for bots in python |
| 16:27.11 | piyush | though I love to code in Java too |
| 16:27.11 | |Kev| | You could look at the orgs for this year's GSoC, find one that looks appealing given your ability and interest, and go talk to them. |
| 16:27.29 | |Kev| | But you don't need to limit yourself to just those orgs. |
| 16:27.32 | scorche|sh | piyush: there are some awesome resources on this page: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents |
| 16:27.38 | scorche|sh | especially the student manual |
| 16:27.53 | piyush | thanks...will read it now |
| 16:27.57 | |Kev| | You almost certainly already use free/open source software, you could think of ways to improve some of that, etc. |
| 16:28.19 | |Kev| | JordiGH: Are you Octave? |
| 16:28.34 | piyush | thats a good idea.....i always wanted to "fix" banshee player :D |
| 16:29.01 | |Kev| | JordiGH: I've got it in my head that you are. If so, nice job. |
| 16:30.42 | JordiGH | |Kev|: Yes, /whois confirms it. :-) |
| 16:30.44 | JordiGH | And thanks. |
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| 16:42.57 | piyush | any sort of limitations on language/platform we are using? |
| 16:44.17 | ashfall_ | piyush: "We" is a *very* diverse group of developers over here, you should probably ask that to the project folks you're interested in. :) |
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| 16:46.54 | piyush | hmm ok |
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| 16:57.15 | JordiGH | piyush: The problem is that you have to find a project to get interested in first. There's not much guidance to offer there. What do yo ulike? What do you like to work on? |
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| 16:59.29 | piyush | JordiGH: the problem is i havent made my mind upon anything.......now I thinking of tweaking some OSS softwares with some unique features if possible..if that counts |
| 17:00.24 | chetan_ | I disagree. I began by saying I just want to work on GSoC, and today I am considering setting up my own server. The project can change your perspective. End of the day google wants you to contribute to open source. |
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| 17:01.12 | piyush | chetan_: you completed GSoC in which yr? |
| 17:01.15 | JordiGH | piyush: What free software are you using? What do you like about it? What don't you like about it? |
| 17:01.21 | chetan_ | I am doing it right now :) |
| 17:01.47 | piyush | JordiGH: like in banshee player...i want to make its more simple yet powerful like VLC |
| 17:02.10 | piyush | but then the question areises,, if there is VLC out there, then why one should opt for Banshee :/ |
| 17:02.28 | piyush | chetan_: which state you form? |
| 17:02.41 | chetan_ | How does that matter? |
| 17:02.46 | JordiGH | piyush: Well, there you go, there's a project you like. It's written in C# and it's a Gnome package. Why don't you start looking at its source code and talking to its community? |
| 17:03.40 | piyush | hmm...ok at least there wil be something to work upon |
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| 17:06.29 | |Kev| | Evening Carol. |
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| 17:29.19 | carols | hey |Kev| |
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| 17:35.49 | JordiGH | |Kev|: I forget what free project you work with. |
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| 17:36.47 | |Kev| | JordiGH: An XMPP client named Swift, primarily. |
| 17:36.56 | JordiGH | I see. |
| 17:37.03 | |Kev| | The XMPP Standards foundation, for the purposes of GSoC. |
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| 17:38.07 | JordiGH | Why did they stop calling it Jabber? |
| 17:38.11 | JordiGH | XMPP is such an ugly name... |
| 17:38.51 | |Kev| | TL;DR: Jabber was a trademark of jabber.com (Jabber Inc.) and this made people unhappy. |
| 17:39.00 | JordiGH | Ah. |
| 17:39.03 | JordiGH | They iceweaseled it. |
| 17:39.59 | |Kev| | Jabber.com trademarked it in the first place as a Good Thing for the community (back when they were the only people making money out of Jabber/XMPP), but then other people started making money from it too and they objected to saying they implemented a protocol with the name of another company and ... |
| 17:40.33 | |Kev| | These days the trademark's owned by Cisco, who bought Jabber Inc., and they're abusing it horribly, so making everything XMPP was probably a good thing ultimately. |
| 17:40.47 | JordiGH | How are they abusing it? |
| 17:40.56 | |Kev| | They have a messaging system called Jabber that isn't based on XMPP and for which there's an XMPP plugin, or somesuch. |
| 17:41.10 | |Kev| | (Abuse may be the wrong word, given it's their trademark to do with as they wish, of course) |
| 17:41.58 | |Kev| | The cynic might suggest that they're trying to build off XMPP's success using the Jabber/XMPP confusion for selling an unrelated product. |
| 17:42.02 | |Kev| | Thankfully I'm not a cynic. |
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| 17:42.09 | JordiGH | Still, "XMPP" is such an ugly name... |
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| 17:42.53 | |Kev| | So I also wouldn't suggest that the Microsoft renaming their communications stuff "MS-Lync" instead of "OCS" would have anything to do with Isode's "M-Link" XMPP server making significant traction as the most desirable commercial XMPP solution. |
| 17:42.55 | JordiGH | Gab? Prattle? Ramble? Yap? |
| 17:42.57 | JordiGH | Yak? |
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| 17:43.06 | JordiGH | Babble? |
| 17:43.13 | |Kev| | I wasn't involved in the XMPP name, I couldn't comment :) |
| 17:43.31 | JordiGH | I always mistakenly say "xmmp" |
| 17:43.34 | JordiGH | After xmms. |
| 17:44.33 | |Kev| | Some people pronounce it "Zympi" or such. I just stick to X M P P. |
| 17:45.04 | piyush | hehe |
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| 17:56.07 | JordiGH | |Kev|: Sequel, squeal, or ess queue ell? |
| 17:56.27 | JordiGH | I understand this is shibboleth. |
| 17:56.42 | |Kev| | Heh. |
| 17:56.44 | |Kev| | S Q L |
| 17:57.44 | gevaerts | sock-ell |
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