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02:50.51 | RishubhJain | Usually in FOSDEM it is declared wether there will be GSOC held or not..right? |
02:52.47 | RishubhJain | and i guess this years FOSDEM (fosdem 2013) is already over and there is still no announcement of GSOC...so does it mean that there will no GSOC this year? |
02:55.16 | meflin | no |
02:55.30 | meflin | there is no "usual" announce" |
02:57.13 | meflin | chill out and meditate |
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03:04.45 | RishubhJain | meflin: thanks for replying...seriously i need to meditate and chill.. |
03:05.12 | meflin | what will be will be |
03:05.18 | RishubhJain | then do u know where its is announced or when its usually announcd? |
03:05.32 | meflin | there no where or usual |
03:05.45 | meflin | RSS the blog |
03:05.48 | RishubhJain | ok...so i should just wait right? |
03:06.27 | meflin | yes |
03:06.40 | meflin | and learn patience ... dont have much of it myself |
03:08.15 | RishubhJain | even i dont have...but i will have it |
03:08.35 | RishubhJain | thanks for replying |
03:09.04 | meflin | my org blew up and I have some leads but who knows |
03:09.11 | meflin | so it could be worse |
03:09.47 | RishubhJain | sorry i didnt get u..what are u talkin about? |
03:10.04 | meflin | I've admin'ed and mentored for 3 years |
03:10.12 | meflin | my old org is gone |
03:10.28 | meflin | so now I am hunting admin |
03:10.49 | meflin | even if GSOC happens I could be on the sideline |
03:11.46 | RishubhJain | ohk...best of luck for that.. |
03:13.20 | meflin | so I also am comping at the bit to know |
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03:15.35 | RishubhJain | meflin: In cse u get to know can you inform me as well? |
03:15.55 | meflin | read the blog it will be there |
03:17.23 | RishubhJain | ohk fine...i will do that |
03:17.56 | meflin | there is an rsss feed off that |
03:18.45 | meflin | if you idle 24/7 I expect irc is a good source as well :D |
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03:22.48 | RishubhJain | no i m not on 1rc 24/7.... |
03:25.54 | RishubhJain | i will check the rss feed...thats a better way i guess |
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12:10.15 | SSCV | any news on gsoc 2013? |
12:10.38 | SSCV | and yes i did check the blog :D |
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17:04.54 | caen23 | congrats to all the grand prize winners, looking forward to meeting you in late april |
17:05.01 | conor_f | :) |
17:05.32 | caen23 | i think this year have been more countries with winners than ever |
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17:18.37 | Lennie | the blogpost is out :)? |
17:18.46 | JordiGH | Is it? |
17:19.04 | Lennie | someone said congrats to all the winners, so I'm wondering |
17:19.55 | caen23 | yes, it is |
17:20.05 | caen23 | http://google-opensource.blogspot.ro/2013/02/google-code-in-2012-grand-prize-winners.html |
17:21.06 | *** topic/#gsoc by Lennie -> Google Code-in 2012 has concluded. Thank you all for your amazing work these past 7 weeks! The Grand Prize Winners have been announced http://goo.gl/Wd2fd |
17:21.06 | JordiGH | Did any women win? |
17:21.38 | Lennie | JordiGH, hard to tell with foreign names |
17:21.58 | JordiGH | Yes, I'm an ignorant westerner. |
17:22.01 | meflin | most of those names I can't see any gender |
17:22.14 | Lennie | JordiGH, women participation was up this year afaik :) |
17:22.35 | Lennie | sttaylor, should know btw |
17:22.36 | meflin | any stats? |
17:22.59 | sttaylor | yes, we had one female winner |
17:23.12 | JordiGH | Woo. |
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17:23.54 | sttaylor | yes, each year the percentage of women participating in GCI has been increasing. This year we went up 2% over last year |
17:24.25 | meflin | cool |
17:25.10 | aviraldg | Hello! :) |
17:25.27 | aviraldg | sttaylor, yea or nae? |
17:25.31 | ansgar | How high was the percentage? I guess even with 2% up, it's still quite low. |
17:26.28 | aviraldg | Out of the top 5 in SSF, two were girls :) |
17:26.59 | mayankmadan | sttaylor: hi |
17:27.49 | JordiGH | My guess is that Ze Yue Wu is the lone female winner? |
17:28.11 | sttaylor | JordiGH, actually Ze is a male |
17:28.21 | JordiGH | Damn. |
17:28.22 | sttaylor | Liezl is a female |
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17:28.25 | JordiGH | Foiled again. |
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17:28.36 | aviraldg | was just about to say that. |
17:29.22 | JordiGH | Ah, it's a modified spelling of a German name. |
17:31.11 | caen23 | i was wondering how many winners aren't the two with the biggest number of tasks, and perhaps the ages of the winners |
17:32.06 | sttaylor | caen23: we don't plan to post that information |
17:32.50 | meflin | not sure what the big deal is about #'s of tasks |
17:32.57 | meflin | quality or quantity ? |
17:34.09 | sttaylor | quality |
17:34.32 | conor_f | caen23: I was chosen and I didn't solve the most tasks |
17:34.41 | conor_f | quality is more important :P :) |
17:34.54 | Lennie | we have a winner on irc? :) |
17:34.58 | Lennie | now that's nice |
17:34.59 | meflin | while it was an odd task .. my last gsoc student reduced the LOC in the codebase |
17:35.17 | aviraldg | (v) |
17:35.35 | conor_f | I have graced you with my presence Lennie ;) haha jk |
17:35.46 | Lennie | conor_f, congrats! |
17:36.06 | meflin | conor_f: have fun in california |
17:36.28 | conor_f | thanks :) I'm sure I will! |
17:37.12 | caen23 | no one's debating whether quantity is more important than quality, it was more of a curiosity |
17:37.18 | MegaAlex | congrats guys! :)) |
17:37.19 | Darrel | caen23, for Copyleft Games Group, the winners were No 1 and No 5 :) |
17:37.28 | aviraldg | melfin: "...perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away, when a body has been stripped down to its nakedness..." |
17:38.05 | meflin | aviraldg: I'm usualy grumpy cat but I may have to make an exception |
17:38.18 | Darrel | Grumpy cat for the win! |
17:38.56 | Lennie | aviraldg, Antoine de Saint-Exupory right :P/ |
17:39.08 | Lennie | aviraldg, that sentence is sitting across of my on a whiteboard :) |
17:39.12 | Lennie | me* |
17:39.28 | aviraldg | yeah |
17:40.22 | gevaerts | gives Lennie an é :) |
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17:43.01 | mayankmadan | <PROTECTED> |
17:43.01 | mayankmadan | \ |
17:43.41 | meflin | you did see the talk above right? |
17:44.07 | meflin | also I'm sure your project appreciates your work , keep going |
17:44.23 | skylamer` | anyone looking for interns? |
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17:45.34 | Darrel | mayankmadan, which org did you work with, btw? |
17:46.24 | meflin | open source isn't always good at giving out pat's on the back ... but it is good at giving your the chance to do good work .. take pride in that |
17:46.57 | Darrel | meflin, precisely |
17:46.57 | mayankmadan | Darrel: KDE |
17:48.10 | Darrel | I didn'even manage to get in Top 5 - actually, I got bumped out in the last half an hour because I was unable to claim my next task on time, but still it was an awesome experience, and I like the organization that I worked with - so I'm still in IRC, still doing commits from time to time :) |
17:53.06 | dfighter | mayankmadan pretty sure the KDE users are most grateful for your efforts, that in itself is a great recognition imo ^^ |
17:53.54 | aviraldg | mayankmadan, plus, you can always use your OSS work to show off your skills (has worked wonders for me in the past) |
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17:54.27 | aviraldg | *showcase would be a better word |
17:54.29 | lionaneesh | How many girls this time, in the winners list I mean? |
17:54.54 | aviraldg | At least two, by my count. |
17:55.04 | meflin | 1 |
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17:55.18 | lionaneesh | aviraldg: Congo btw! |
17:55.22 | lionaneesh | Hi5! |
17:55.26 | aviraldg | Thanks, same to you! :D |
17:55.51 | aviraldg | Ramu Yalamanchi! |
17:56.13 | lionaneesh | Lol! |
17:56.18 | lionaneesh | He made Hi5! |
17:56.29 | lionaneesh | Hi5 kinda sucks. But the gesture doesn't |
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17:56.50 | meflin | hmm altho <sttaylor> answer was ambiguous on the 1 vs 2 |
17:56.56 | aviraldg | Kinda? Biggest understatement of the century. |
17:57.28 | sttaylor | meflin: there was 1 female grand prize winner |
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17:57.49 | meflin | well that isn't ambiguous |
17:57.49 | Darrel | lionaneesh, two or three times in a row grand prize winner now? |
17:57.57 | lionaneesh | Darrel: 2 |
17:58.12 | Darrel | is this your last year? |
17:58.33 | meflin | while I am stoked now we just need to move that to 4+ |
17:58.42 | lionaneesh | Darrel: Yum unfortunately :( |
17:58.42 | Darrel | I mean if they run the program again |
17:58.56 | lionaneesh | s/yum/yup |
17:59.37 | Darrel | aww, that's too bad :/ I've participated twice, but thanks to my birthday being in december, in theory I have 2 more years - if they run the program with the same rules again :) |
17:59.37 | lionaneesh | BTW how about a IRC party! |
17:59.42 | Darrel | Why not? :) |
18:00.07 | lionaneesh | Let's code a website for GCI? I mean a fan site or something like that? |
18:00.27 | meflin | boo |
18:00.31 | aviraldg | Hangout |
18:00.33 | meflin | code some real stuff |
18:00.42 | aviraldg | ^ +1 to that |
18:00.53 | Darrel | Hangout, sure |
18:01.00 | Darrel | and real stuff - why not :) |
18:01.17 | ChrisOelmueller | you can hack Melange instead and fix some of the stuff that annoyed you as participants :-) |
18:01.39 | Darrel | If I manage to fix the thing that costed me my top 5 position I would be more than happy :) |
18:01.42 | aviraldg | IMHO, GCI & GSOC should be run on Github ;) <wink> |
18:01.53 | meflin | melange needs some fixing good idea |
18:01.54 | aviraldg | Darrel, what? |
18:02.32 | Darrel | btw, did anyone have my problem - linux, kubuntu, (wubi), any browser = melange not working - unable to load task list or to claim task (if someone gives me direct link to a certain task) |
18:02.40 | Darrel | it loads for years and nothing happens |
18:02.49 | Darrel | or if something does happen - it is server sent no response |
18:02.57 | meflin | i |
18:03.09 | aviraldg | Melange had that problem ... in 2010. |
18:03.13 | meflin | have not done GCI but I |
18:03.14 | Lennie | gevaerts, crappy US keyboard settings don't give me such an e :P |
18:03.19 | gevaerts | aviraldg: what's so special about github? |
18:03.21 | meflin | never had that |
18:03.24 | gevaerts | Lennie: compose key! |
18:03.35 | Lennie | Darrel, link? |
18:03.38 | meflin | do not type off centered to keyboard |
18:03.42 | Darrel | ALT + numbers does magic :D |
18:04.05 | aviraldg | I should've said "directly on projects' issue trackers and version control systems" |
18:04.06 | Darrel | Lennie, link for? |
18:04.17 | Lennie | Darrel, page that fails to load |
18:04.28 | lionaneesh | Hangout? |
18:04.31 | Darrel | aviraldg, something like Julython? the way it works is pretty cool |
18:04.36 | meflin | also Lennie for example is a good fixer for issues |
18:04.55 | Darrel | Lennie, http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/google/gci2012/copyleftgames |
18:04.57 | Darrel | For example |
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18:05.07 | Darrel | I'm on windows right now, so it all works as charm |
18:05.08 | aviraldg | => https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e0afe38529295211ca5acde7cd5dac9c26691700?authuser=0&hl=en-GB |
18:05.21 | Lennie | Darrel, did you try chrome on linux? |
18:05.23 | meflin | loads just fine |
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18:05.28 | Darrel | but on my other OS, it wouldn't load for me |
18:05.41 | Darrel | actually, the first time I use a fresh browser - no cookies, etc etc |
18:05.43 | Darrel | it would load |
18:05.47 | meflin | linux-konq |
18:05.48 | Darrel | at least the first two pages of tasks |
18:05.53 | Darrel | then it wouldn't load anything else |
18:06.01 | Darrel | and on reload, it wouldn't load the page at all |
18:06.03 | Lennie | Darrel, if you are capable of looking in your developer console of your browser of choice and can figure out if there are any JS error we could go from there? |
18:06.20 | Lennie | Since I can't reproduce this atm on linux :p |
18:06.55 | Darrel | sure.. I tried with all browsers, same result.. I'll switch to the linux now :) |
18:06.58 | Darrel | brb |
18:07.08 | Lennie | FF and Chrome both work for me |
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18:11.04 | Lennie | ChrisOelmueller++ for trying to poach people to fix Melange :P |
18:11.59 | meflin | it nees minions |
18:12.04 | meflin | needs |
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18:18.06 | Darrel | alright now |
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18:18.13 | Darrel | let's see.. |
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18:26.37 | Darrel | http://prntscr.com/rk50w |
18:27.09 | Darrel | copyleftgames GET (pending) Other 13B Pending |
18:27.14 | Darrel | and it stays like that forever |
18:27.29 | Darrel | pending and pending and pending .. |
18:29.39 | Lennie | Darrel, hmm |
18:30.07 | Lennie | Darrel, does it work in incognito mode? |
18:30.13 | lionaneesh | Darrel: Not for me! |
18:30.39 | Darrel | It works in incognito mode |
18:30.40 | Darrel | once :) |
18:30.47 | Darrel | after that, it doesn't |
18:30.59 | Darrel | if I close the incognito window and open it again, it works |
18:31.13 | Darrel | but the weird thing is that it loads only up to 100 tasks |
18:31.23 | Lennie | so it got 26kb which should be the bulk of the page |
18:31.28 | Lennie | and yet it doesn't show anything? |
18:31.42 | Darrel | yeah, nothing |
18:32.05 | Darrel | No data received |
18:32.05 | Darrel | Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data. |
18:33.12 | Lennie | which is kind of a lie :P |
18:33.13 | Lennie | since there is data |
18:33.24 | Lennie | if you click on any of the items in the list you can see the request and response |
18:33.34 | Lennie | perhaps that will give you a sense of what's going on |
18:33.56 | Darrel | http://prntscr.com/rk62j |
18:34.07 | Darrel | here's what I get with incognito mode |
18:34.30 | Darrel | this loads part of the tasks |
18:34.35 | Darrel | but the js gets canceled |
18:35.02 | Lennie | weird |
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18:36.17 | aviraldg | Server logs? |
18:37.24 | Lennie | yeah looking at them |
18:37.32 | Lennie | no errors at least |
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18:38.40 | aviraldg | hmm |
18:38.51 | Lennie | I'm just trying to find the actual request now |
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18:44.50 | Lennie | appengine logs search is either playing tricks |
18:44.54 | Lennie | or his requests are just not there |
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18:46.30 | Lennie | hmm |
18:47.17 | Lennie | nathanielmanista, any idea if this could be caused by the traffic split? |
18:47.37 | Lennie | nathanielmanista, your 01 ninja release is serving 5% :) |
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18:48.07 | Darrel | or maybe by the fact that this is linux via Wubi? |
18:49.29 | Lennie | Darrel, I found one of your requests now |
18:49.42 | Darrel | that would be the incognito one |
18:49.54 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: tut, tut, tut. Breaking things. |
18:50.12 | Lennie | you know me MatthewWilkes , I'd never break things :p |
18:50.12 | meflin | lets break ALL THE THINGS! |
18:50.53 | Darrel | aww, meflin, and how will we have GCI next year if we break everything :P |
18:51.50 | meflin | no fun :P |
18:52.02 | iammyr | Hi everyone, do you know whether an open source project created on purpose for applying to the gsoc fundings can apply as a mentoring organization? |
18:52.27 | iammyr | or is it compelled to have a broad community of users and developers? |
18:52.32 | carols | iammyr: does it meet all the requirements for mentoring orgs? |
18:52.38 | meflin | why would you do that? |
18:52.58 | iammyr | @carols: the ones listed yep |
18:53.12 | carols | iammyr: then it's welcome to apply. assuming gsoc even happens this year. |
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18:53.15 | MatthewWilkes | meflin: Lots of open source software is in the initial community building phase, GSoC might provide the impetus to them to formalise into an organisation |
18:53.41 | meflin | MatthewWilkes: well been there done that ( umbrella ) |
18:53.52 | iammyr | @meflin: because the best developers are attracted by the chance to work for google and are more likely to contribute also in this small project |
18:54.42 | meflin | reminds himself that he hasn't slept in over 40 hours |
18:56.45 | iammyr | thanks everyone ;) |
18:56.56 | Darrel | so *that* is why meflin wants to break everything - he is sleepy and is in a bad mood :) |
18:57.26 | meflin | well meflin defaults to a bad mood |
18:58.05 | meflin | so throw on not being able to sleep in almost 2 days |
18:59.40 | MatthewWilkes | We've been going through our ideas list from last year and removing the stuff that's been done or worked around atm, in case of either a GSoC or other mentoring projects we're looking at coming off |
18:59.46 | MatthewWilkes | It's amazing how fast things move |
19:00.27 | meflin | quality students have this anoying tendency to eat up the todo list both in and after gsoc |
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19:00.50 | Darrel | Yeah, that's so annoying for mentors, I guess :P |
19:01.13 | Lennie | Darrel, I can't find anything wrong on our end atm. And I can't reproduce it :( |
19:01.25 | meflin | Darrel: and worse they take ownership and stuff :P |
19:01.42 | meflin | next thing you know those wippersnapers are mentors |
19:02.07 | Darrel | yeah, that sucks, the problem can't be reproduced.. I think.. All I know is that it works on one OS, it doesn't work on this Wubi kubuntu, though.. |
19:02.08 | Darrel | hahha |
19:02.35 | Darrel | yeah, meflin, in CGG, we had 3-4 mentors former GCI students |
19:03.06 | meflin | last gsoc 2 out of 3 other mentors where past gsoc'ers |
19:03.19 | Darrel | heh |
19:03.40 | meflin | so I got to grump around .. old old old dang wippersnapers |
19:04.00 | meflin | #3 was 20 .... blah |
19:04.30 | Darrel | Oh, lol, I always think GSoC is only for students aged 18 |
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19:04.36 | Darrel | i don't know why I've got this impression.. |
19:04.42 | meflin | gsoc is for collage students |
19:04.46 | Darrel | yeah |
19:04.57 | meflin | 18->anything |
19:05.12 | meflin | had a aplication from a 50+ guy last year |
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19:06.39 | meflin | also not #3 was a mentor ... could have studented :D |
19:06.45 | meflin | s/not/note/ |
19:07.17 | Darrel | 50+ guy? No kidding? |
19:07.24 | meflin | no kidding |
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19:07.32 | meflin | 20+ years of programing |
19:07.38 | Darrel | Haha, like a boss |
19:08.00 | meflin | well couldn't think outside a box and just wanted to tell everyone how it should be done |
19:08.06 | meflin | we passed |
19:08.50 | gevaerts | Your loss! ;) |
19:08.57 | gevaerts | I'm sure he told you that |
19:09.05 | meflin | yep |
19:09.26 | meflin | I'm _SO_ sad ( that I wasted an hour interview ) |
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19:10.35 | meflin | the very odd thing .. he didn't know c/c++ at all |
19:11.04 | meflin | required for the submission |
19:11.12 | Darrel | oh lol |
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19:11.14 | gevaerts | Ah, that's because c/c++ is not an actual thing :) |
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19:11.36 | meflin | forks gevaerts |
19:12.00 | gevaerts | has the name and the community so he will win |
19:12.57 | meflin | you should welcome 2 of you :) |
19:14.13 | gevaerts | I always do! |
19:14.32 | meflin | hmmm obviously .. your plural after all |
19:14.44 | gevaerts | is not! |
19:14.57 | meflin | oh ? see the final s? |
19:15.06 | gevaerts | That's a final s, not a plural s! |
19:15.32 | meflin | we shall have to thrum wrestle that |
19:15.44 | gevaerts | It's my name, so I get to decide! |
19:16.00 | meflin | true but heh so what? |
19:17.15 | Darrel | Fight, fight, fight! |
19:19.09 | meflin | well the nice thing about thumb's is looser buy the round then you get to laff and have fun |
19:19.24 | meflin | so its all win-win |
19:19.54 | gevaerts | I already won earlier, so you get to win this time |
19:20.03 | gevaerts | I won't agree though :) |
19:20.16 | meflin | doesn't mater ::) |
19:20.23 | gevaerts | buys the round |
19:20.34 | meflin | yep its all about the round ! ;) |
19:20.51 | gevaerts | Definitely! |
19:20.58 | meflin | next one on me |
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19:47.41 | MatthewWilkes | oh dear. I knew that mailing list post would be bad just by the subject :/ |
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19:59.10 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, which one |
19:59.11 | Lennie | ? |
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20:04.21 | Darrel | I'm seriously annoyed by people that insist that they *deserve* to be winners. I mean, come on, this is not up to you to decide, it's the job of the mentors.. |
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20:05.23 | meflin | Darrel: wait what you you telling me I'm not a winner? ( to old and even didn['t mentor ) |
20:06.14 | gevaerts | We're all winners! |
20:06.21 | ChrisOelmueller | unless something seriously went wrong which is pretty unlikely, complaining now only proves the mentor organizations' points about not choosing those participants |
20:07.39 | Darrel | precisely |
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20:09.21 | ChrisOelmueller | that being said i'm not that happy with the way preselection happened through the "top 5" restriction, which caused a lot of high expectations that being prize winner might strongly correlate to being #1 or #2 in the respective org list of finished tasks |
20:09.53 | ChrisOelmueller | but i voiced this some time ago already and don't really expect opinions to have changed on the subject since :) |
20:13.25 | meflin | I disagreee and would hope for a change to top 10 |
20:13.51 | ChrisOelmueller | top N will always cause trouble for arbitrary N |
20:14.05 | meflin | true |
20:14.15 | ChrisOelmueller | my idea was that solving the amount of tasks required for the shirt would also add you to the list |
20:14.22 | Darrel | ah, well, I don't really think that it would have much different without the top 5 preselection.. and after all, it DOES make sense that the people with the most tasks have done more work |
20:14.52 | meflin | depends on the task |
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20:27.49 | Lennie | it might depend on the task but the rules for the winner were clear from the start right? |
20:27.59 | Lennie | so if you wanted to win you shouldn't just do only the difficult ones :) |
20:28.10 | Lennie | It's all about balance |
20:28.37 | gevaerts | I think it was only clear from the start for people who actually read the rules :) |
20:28.45 | Lennie | and if you've done well you should find enough reward within the community of the OS project you are in. You might find yourself at there next summit :) |
20:28.59 | meflin | read the doc's? hell no :) |
20:30.01 | Darrel | Haha, yeah, nobody is crazy enough to read docs :) |
20:30.23 | meflin | over all I agree with Lennie |
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20:30.57 | meflin | you join the group and keep giving |
20:31.04 | meflin | or your are dead weight |
20:31.53 | meflin | massive piles of code in the end are useless |
20:32.55 | ChrisOelmueller | folks doing tasks they don't actually find interesting just to stay in the top 5 is also not very rewarding for both mentors and students |
20:33.40 | caen23 | imo, at this age not everyone is mature enough to think past the prize, and the winners have just been announced, i don't think it's uncommon to get a few complaints in the hours after a contest (any contest) is closed |
20:33.54 | Darrel | that's precisely what my mentors tried to tell me, but I wouldn't listen, so I fell out of top 5 with a single task difference :) but yeah, docs weren't really interesting.. |
20:34.29 | ChrisOelmueller | Darrel: you're not the only student where i observed this, if it helps |
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20:34.59 | Darrel | haha |
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20:35.38 | meflin | doc's suck ... but they do mater |
20:36.11 | JordiGH | Doctors? |
20:36.15 | JordiGH | Documentation? |
20:36.17 | JordiGH | scrolls up. |
20:36.47 | Darrel | Both.. I guess :) But uh, no. Doctors don't suck :D |
20:37.06 | gevaerts | Leeches do |
20:37.52 | meflin | Dr's suck for me :P |
20:38.13 | Darrel | Grumpy strikes again :P |
20:38.17 | meflin | dam if I can get anyone to listen to my history |
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20:47.00 | mmadia | !numstats |
20:47.01 | gsocbot | mmadia: "numstats" is There are 14 statistics in !numapps. |
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20:47.50 | mmadia | hrmmmm, does anyone recall the keyword to find the statistics of mentoring orgs, participating students, etc? |
20:49.26 | ChrisOelmueller | it's right there |
20:50.23 | mmadia | !numapps |
20:50.24 | gsocbot | mmadia: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
20:50.41 | mmadia | *cough* thanks, ChrisOelmueller. |
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