| 00:00.06 | carols | Tracerneo: i would need to look into it further, honestly. |
| 00:00.22 | carols | should you decide to apply, please email me and I can look into it. |
| 00:00.23 | Tracerneo | And when I compared it to US education system it's post-secondary education. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_the_United_States#School_grades |
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| 00:00.41 | carols | then yes, it sounds like it would count. |
| 00:01.16 | MatthewWilkes | Tracerneo: I do not speak for google. Are you legally obliged to be in education? Is the education you're receiving identical to that offered by other schools that accept all members of the public? Those would be my personal diagnostic tests. |
| 00:02.10 | Tracerneo | But in Poland we can chose betwen "liceum ogólnokształcące" and "technikum". The first one "is an academic high school" (3 years), but second one "is a vocational high school" (4 years). |
| 00:03.03 | volkarg | Tracerneo: Cześć |
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| 00:05.08 | Tracerneo | MatthewWilkes: I'm obligated only because I'm under 18. In Poland edication is forced to this age, but as type of school it's only "podstawówka" and "gimnazjum" (6+3 years, both give primary education). |
| 00:06.19 | Tracerneo | volkarg: cześć. :) |
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| 01:25.06 | dag10_afk | Hey, all. Question: I'm starting at a university in fall 2013 and I'm already accepted, committed, and registered as a student. Does this count as "enrolled", and am I eligible for participation GSoC 2013 as a student? |
| 01:26.05 | thiago | can you get that university to give you a "you are a student" documentation in May? |
| 01:26.59 | dag10_afk | Sure. What is accepted as documentation of enrollment? I wouldn't have a transcript yet. |
| 01:28.04 | thiago | not a transcript, just a form from the university saying "yes, this person is enrolled as a student right now" |
| 01:28.23 | thiago | not "in 3 months". It has to be "as of this date, this person is a student" |
| 01:29.55 | dag10_afk | Would a university consider me as a currently-enrolled student at this time if I'm registered and enrolled for fall 2013? |
| 01:30.18 | dag10_afk | Or would this depend on the university? I'll be contacting my university about this, but I'm just wondering if you might have an idea. |
| 01:30.46 | thiago | that's up to you to find out |
| 01:30.58 | thiago | if the university considers you a student already, you can participate |
| 01:31.29 | dag10_afk | Okay. Thanks for your help! |
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| 01:36.23 | MatthewWilkes | thiago: I was too slow here, but that's not true. 'accepted' has always been sufficient, you just need the university to confirm that. |
| 01:36.31 | MatthewWilkes | Just for future reference |
| 01:36.36 | thiago | ah, ok |
| 01:36.56 | thiago | the "currently enrolled" applies then to the other end: finishing studies |
| 01:37.15 | MatthewWilkes | yep |
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| 04:13.52 | jbik | Hi. As an interested student, what can or should I do to increase my chances of getting accepted on-board for a GSoC project? |
| 04:14.23 | jbik | Should I wait until |
| 04:14.25 | anth_r | talk to likely orgs |
| 04:14.28 | jbik | April 8? |
| 04:14.42 | jbik | Contact past organizations? |
| 04:14.48 | anth_r | that's when the real stuff happens, yeah, but there's no reason to wait. |
| 04:15.18 | anth_r | yup. contact either orgs that have participated in the past or just orgs you're interested in and would like to work with (ideally, orgs which are both). |
| 04:15.42 | anth_r | talk to them, see what's up, what needs doing, get familiar with the project and the community. |
| 04:16.26 | anth_r | that'll help you submit the best application you can, and - worst case scenario - if it doesn't work out, you've still got something out of the process. |
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| 04:16.48 | jbik | Right. |
| 04:16.54 | jbik | Thanks for the advice. |
| 04:17.18 | anth_r | no problem |
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| 08:20.40 | prateek_3991 | around what time will the list of participating organizations be out??? |
| 08:22.54 | kblin | !timeline | prateek_3991 |
| 08:22.54 | gsocbot | prateek_3991: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012 |
| 08:23.05 | kblin | hm, that's the old one |
| 08:23.48 | kblin | !learn timeline as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
| 08:23.48 | gsocbot | kblin: "timeline" is (#1) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2012, or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
| 08:23.55 | kblin | !forget timeline 1 |
| 08:23.55 | gsocbot | kblin: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 08:24.16 | kblin | !faq |
| 08:24.16 | gsocbot | kblin: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs |
| 08:24.38 | kblin | !forget faq |
| 08:24.40 | gsocbot | kblin: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:24.45 | kblin | !learn faq as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
| 08:24.45 | gsocbot | kblin: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
| 08:25.05 | kblin | !when |
| 08:25.05 | gsocbot | kblin: "when" is later |
| 08:25.08 | kblin | great |
| 08:25.26 | kblin | gives gsocbot a cookie and gets to work |
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| 09:07.12 | ThomasWaldmann | moin! :) |
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| 13:07.52 | nehaljwani | Hello! I am new to GSoC. Does anybody have any idea as to which organizations are participating this year? |
| 13:08.10 | madbytes | No list is out yet. |
| 13:08.20 | madbytes | Check timeline, for more details. |
| 13:09.22 | plaintext | You can check out last years orgs to get an idea: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 13:13.32 | plaintext | I have a question too, about my eligibility to participate |
| 13:14.34 | plaintext | I just finished my BSc, and I enrolled to the MSc programme of my university |
| 13:15.00 | plaintext | However, in this semester I will be "passive", which means that I won't be doing any classes |
| 13:15.15 | plaintext | Will I be able to participate in gsoc this year? |
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| 13:45.37 | gopesh | hi |
| 13:45.43 | madbytes | Hello |
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| 13:59.20 | rajul | gopesh: hi |
| 13:59.49 | gopesh | rajul:hi |
| 14:00.18 | gopesh | can you suugest me a idea for gsoc 13 |
| 14:02.39 | blast007 | gopesh: I would suggest that you just start talking with some open-source projects that interest you and see if they plan to apply for GSoC this year - and get familiar with their development community |
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| 14:12.00 | dilpreet | Hey. Is gephi planning to participate in gsoc13? |
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| 14:17.29 | blast007 | dilpreet: Go ask them. :) |
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| 16:38.52 | sashka_ua | Hi there gents. I'm just wonder if there is any notice in rules about age? How old may you be to be allowed to participate in gsoc? What if I'm a student, but aged, like ~30y. |
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| 16:39.29 | dfighter | sashka_ua read the FAQ! |
| 16:39.44 | dfighter | however I don't remember an upper age limit |
| 16:40.05 | sashka_ua | I have not found this in faq |
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| 16:40.30 | dfighter | sashka_ua then there's no upper age limit :) |
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| 16:40.44 | sashka_ua | let's hope. :) |
| 16:40.52 | summatusmentis | https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
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| 16:41.13 | sashka_ua | summatusmentis: yes, but it's all about: be 18 years of age or older |
| 16:41.23 | gevaerts | Yes, exactly |
| 16:41.24 | summatusmentis | you're older than 18, yes? |
| 16:41.36 | sashka_ua | I am, sir. :) |
| 16:41.56 | summatusmentis | then you don't fall under the age restrictions |
| 16:42.24 | summatusmentis | I know there have been PhD students who participated in the past |
| 16:42.27 | summatusmentis | for instance |
| 16:42.53 | sashka_ua | Here PhD usually means ~21-22 years old |
| 16:43.12 | gevaerts | knows PhD students three times that age! |
| 16:43.21 | gevaerts | (not in gsoc, but they could be) |
| 16:43.32 | sashka_ua | But, thanks anyway. If nobody heard about upper age limit, that's cool |
| 16:43.42 | summatusmentis | yeah, afaik, there is no upper age limit |
| 16:44.08 | gevaerts | There wasn't an upper age limit in previous years, and I haven't seen a change in that area for this year |
| 16:44.16 | simonl | the restrictions a legal ones, google can't pay you if you are under 18. Enrollment in education is just how the program works. |
| 16:44.22 | simonl | Thus, no reason for an upper age limit |
| 16:44.35 | summatusmentis | indeed |
| 16:44.40 | simonl | wow, spelling :S |
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| 18:19.16 | carols | quiet in here :-) |
| 18:19.22 | carols | it was so chatty yesterday :-) |
| 18:20.19 | saurabhsood91 | carols: initial excitement subsided :D |
| 18:20.28 | carols | saurabhsood91: that was fast :-) |
| 18:20.41 | saurabhsood91 | :D |
| 18:20.48 | anth_r | we're all busy writing "come spend your summer with us!" material. ;-) |
| 18:21.05 | saurabhsood91 | anth_r: exactly ;) |
| 18:23.03 | carols | anth_r: good answer :-) |
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| 18:27.22 | saurabhsood91 | carols: nagging the community to start putting up projects ;) |
| 18:27.37 | carols | saurabhsood91: that is a difficult job but someone's got to do it. |
| 18:28.02 | saurabhsood91 | carols: yeah. finding that a hard job. everyone seems so busy these days |
| 18:28.22 | carols | saurabhsood91: are you familiar with the story of chicken little? |
| 18:28.30 | saurabhsood91 | carols: nope |
| 18:28.48 | saurabhsood91 | checks |
| 18:29.06 | carols | saurabhsood91: it's a long story. but the gist is that you keep doing the work and everyone else suddenly gets very busy :-) |
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| 18:29.29 | jcs | where can i find the details about the legal contract a mentoring organization needs to sign with google to be part of gsoc? |
| 18:29.33 | saurabhsood91 | agrees |
| 18:29.38 | carols | jcs: just to view it? |
| 18:29.57 | saurabhsood91 | it happened with during GCI too |
| 18:30.00 | jcs | yes, for now |
| 18:30.07 | carols | jcs: here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/org_admin_agreement |
| 18:30.22 | carols | saurabhsood91: yep. happens with most things people want to happen but don't want to work on themselves. |
| 18:30.59 | meflin | I'm happy I wont be working as much as last year ( project finding, admin, mentor, mentoring mentors, org crisis's ) |
| 18:31.12 | saurabhsood91 | carols: yeah |
| 18:31.26 | meflin | oh and web pages, dev servers bla bla |
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| 18:32.20 | meflin | just doing 1 job this year :) |
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| 18:37.20 | jcs | is it possible for the coordinators of a mentoring organization to refuse any payment from google for legal reasons? |
| 18:37.53 | Catfish_Man | accidentally did that one year |
| 18:39.31 | carols | jcs: so basically just participate in gsoc without receiving your stipends or your reimbursement for the mentor summit travel? |
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| 18:41.01 | jcs | for the coordinators/mentor, yes. the coordinators are members of the non-profit organization (participating in gsoc) and can't receive money for services related to the organization |
| 18:41.27 | carols | jcs: sure. i'm happy to spend less money on the program this year :-) |
| 18:41.37 | carols | should you be accepted you're welcome to not request the payment. |
| 18:41.58 | gevaerts | jcs: technically (at least in previous years) the money goes to the organisation, which then has the option of passing it on to the mentors |
| 18:42.10 | JordiGH | jcs: Eh, that's weird, non-profits can receive money. |
| 18:42.20 | JordiGH | jcs: They just can't hoard it, so to speak. :P |
| 18:42.20 | gevaerts | That's just an option though, the organisation kan keep the money |
| 18:43.21 | carols | jcs: having said that, there are lots of orgs that participate that have arrangements made for the money. they have larger orgs accept the money for them, for example. |
| 18:43.27 | carols | anyway, we're not going to force money on you. |
| 18:43.35 | gevaerts | JordiGH: they can do that too! They just can't pass it back to investors :) |
| 18:43.46 | jcs | ok. apparently someone else from the organization tried to submit the past few years and kept running into this as the problem |
| 18:43.47 | JordiGH | gevaerts: So to speak, like I said. |
| 18:44.08 | carols | jcs: submit? you mean tried to apply and was rejected because they couldn't accept payment? |
| 18:44.17 | carols | or you mean participated and then couldn't take the money at the end? |
| 18:44.17 | jcs | either they had to sign as themselves and not the org and then couldn't accept money, or the org couldn't sign because it's not based in the us |
| 18:44.25 | jcs | the former |
| 18:44.45 | carols | jcs: i would love to see the irc logs where i gave feedback that that's why we were rejecting any org. |
| 18:44.46 | jcs | not rejected so much as, couldn't get more answers from google to continue the application process |
| 18:44.53 | carols | because so far as i know, i've never said any such thing. |
| 18:45.25 | carols | jcs: application process? we don't provide any money as part of the application... |
| 18:45.34 | carols | is suddenly confused |
| 18:46.02 | jcs | no, accepting money after the program is over. since that was a term of signing the contract with google, it couldn't get signed |
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| 18:46.20 | jcs | but if you're saying that no money has to be accepted, that changes things |
| 18:46.37 | carols | jcs: have you read through the whole mentor agreement? is there language in there you guys don't agree to? |
| 18:46.50 | jcs | i just read the one you linked to, i don't know if it was different in past years |
| 18:47.00 | jcs | is that the only thing that has to be agreed to? |
| 18:47.03 | anth_r | jcs: i suspect whoever told you that was just confused. i'm admin for an org that has participated for three years without taking payment. |
| 18:47.11 | carols | jcs: it's been the same every year except for the change in mentors needing to be 18 this year... |
| 18:47.20 | jcs | ok |
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| 18:47.44 | jcs | do you know of any other non-us non-profit organizations that are in this or last year's program? |
| 18:48.00 | jcs | as in, legally organized non-profit |
| 18:48.08 | carols | jcs: not off the top of my head. but i could look into it for you if you'd like. |
| 18:48.17 | carols | or maybe someone in the channel will volunteer. |
| 18:49.06 | carols | we have tons of non-us orgs that participate every year. |
| 18:49.42 | JordiGH | Germany has non-profit laws that are surprising to me. |
| 18:53.31 | olly | carols, jcs: "The Blender Foundation is an independent organization (a Dutch "stichting"), acting as a non-profit public benefit corporation [...]" |
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| 18:53.56 | carols | thanks olly |
| 18:54.24 | jcs | thanks |
| 18:54.54 | olly | and the Climate Code Foundation are UK based I thunk |
| 18:54.59 | olly | think, even |
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| 18:56.15 | olly | they say they're a non-profit and talk about budgets in pounds at least |
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| 18:58.35 | jcs | to clarify things, would it be possible to apply as an individual developer of the project (with the project's blessing) that is not associated with the project's not-for-profit foundation or would google need the actual foundation to be involved? |
| 18:59.41 | dfighter | [02-12-2013][19:43:35][02-12-2013][19:43:35]<carols> anyway, we're not going to force money on you. <<< You can force all the money you want on me Carol! :P |
| 19:00.15 | iismd | hello, im a undergraduate student willing to participate in GSoC'13. However I will be interning at a company this summers. Would I be eligible to participate? (I meet all other criteria mentioned on FAQ page) |
| 19:00.20 | carols | jcs: um, i don't think i understand. so your application would be for someone to work for x organization but the only person participating from x organization would you be you, as sole mentor and org admin? |
| 19:00.41 | Catfish_Man | iismd: GSoC is typically considered equivalent to a full time internship in terms of workload |
| 19:00.51 | Catfish_Man | so working two jobs is often too much |
| 19:01.10 | carols | iismd: as a general rule, no. as Catfish_Man said. |
| 19:02.01 | jcs | no, this is all just for becoming a mentoring organization. the project has a not-for-profit foundation but we would like to keep it out of the legal binding with google. can someone from the project (not the not-for-profit) sign the agreement and represent the project in gsoc, or would google want the foundation to be involved in order to represent the project? |
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| 19:02.40 | gevaerts | jcs: you can always consider working with SPI or the like |
| 19:03.13 | carols | jcs: indeed. i understand that. what i'm asking is what your application will look like. will i see an application where for "organization name" it says "ics" or will it say "x organization"? |
| 19:03.16 | iismd | carols: I understand that. but my intern wouldnt take up all my time. I think I would be able to manage. Is that general rule enforced upon? |
| 19:04.10 | carols | iismd: i can't force you to do anything. however, i can tell you that our general experience is that you probably won't have the time to do both or really put a quality effort into either, and so we'd like you to choose. |
| 19:04.25 | jcs | it will say the name of the open source project, with coordinators/mentors being head developers of the project. apparently in the past, google wanted the foundation to be involved because there is one |
| 19:04.33 | carols | iismd: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#11._How_much_time_is_required_to |
| 19:04.54 | carols | jcs: this is getting way too specific for me to understand. do you want to email me? |
| 19:05.00 | meflin | iismd: it would be a hard road to convince me to let you take on a project for my org |
| 19:05.21 | jcs | sure, can you msg me your address |
| 19:05.28 | censorydep | which is something to keep in mind: the open source project has to be *interested* in your part time output. |
| 19:05.28 | carols | jcs: carols@google.com |
| 19:05.31 | carols | no need to message :-) |
| 19:05.34 | carols | everyone has it already |
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| 19:05.47 | jcs | ok, thanks |
| 19:06.13 | carols | yw |
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| 19:07.29 | iismd | carols, meflin: my internship is more of a formality. just wanted clarification on the legal part. Thanks btw. I understand what you say. If not formally I will approach the orgs informally |
| 19:09.03 | carols | serves some tea and cookies |
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| 19:09.38 | meflin | I am saved! .... waiting for tea from the tea shop to arrive :) |
| 19:09.50 | anth_r | reminds me i should eat at some point today. |
| 19:10.44 | censorydep | pro tip: irc cookies, while tasty, aren't sustaining |
| 19:11.00 | amraw | The student who apply in gsoc need to be a computer science student or it can be from other branch having good programming skill. |
| 19:11.11 | carols | amraw: any subject you like. |
| 19:11.15 | carols | or are majoring in. |
| 19:12.42 | iismd | :q |
| 19:13.21 | saurabhsood91 | carols: the channel has livened up again ;) |
| 19:13.29 | carols | saurabhsood91: indeed it has! |
| 19:13.34 | carols | maybe everyone has had their tea. |
| 19:14.00 | saurabhsood91 | yeah. but tea here in india will ruin our sleep :/ |
| 19:14.11 | saurabhsood91 | midnight here |
| 19:15.02 | meflin | saurabhsood91: honeybush or rooibos ( tea like caffeine free ) |
| 19:15.42 | saurabhsood91 | meflin: will check it out, but i guess will be hard to get it here. thanks for info ;) |
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| 19:17.15 | meflin | hard to say ... most of my tea and tea-like availability is because I have a very high qaulity tea shop cloose by |
| 19:17.29 | carols | can vouch for this |
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| 19:33.33 | javajarr | hi, please help with getting info about my case. Last year I was kicked out of university since I didn't finish all the courses, this year I'm passing exams on by debts, but officialy I am not a student, however in summer, June, I will be officialy a student and will be defending my Bachelor diploma. Can I participate in GSoC 2013? |
| 19:34.04 | waldi | javajarr: are you a student at the given date? |
| 19:34.16 | javajarr | waldi what is the given date? |
| 19:34.55 | carols | javajarr: you need to be a student on may 27. |
| 19:34.58 | carols | will that be the case? |
| 19:36.46 | javajarr | carols ok I see, thanks, I will ask my school management whether they can state that I'm a student on 27.05 |
| 19:36.52 | carols | javajarr: ok |
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| 19:50.17 | unknown_had | Hi ReactOS participated last year? |
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| 19:50.36 | carols | unknown_had: have you checked the list of orgs from last year? |
| 19:50.49 | unknown_had | They are not there |
| 19:50.54 | carols | unknown_had: then no. |
| 19:51.00 | unknown_had | but I think they might have tried but never got selected |
| 19:51.08 | carols | unknown_had: have you asked them about it? |
| 19:51.10 | unknown_had | ?? |
| 19:51.17 | unknown_had | I did |
| 19:51.19 | unknown_had | no one replied |
| 19:51.39 | carols | unknown_had: we don't make public who applied and who was rejected unless the org chooses to disclose that information. |
| 19:51.56 | unknown_had | oh! never mind |
| 19:51.58 | unknown_had | thnaks carols |
| 19:52.03 | unknown_had | :) |
| 19:52.08 | carols | yw :-) |
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| 19:54.42 | olly | hmm, well a quick search would have answered that one - top hit for: reactos gsoc 2012 |
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| 20:03.38 | dberkholz | afternoon folks |
| 20:03.50 | dberkholz | carols: missed you in brussels! |
| 20:03.54 | carols | afternoon dberkholz |
| 20:03.56 | carols | missed you too! |
| 20:04.09 | carols | i'll be in amsterdam in march, does that count for anything? |
| 20:04.12 | carols | probably not.. |
| 20:04.12 | dberkholz | i saw cat, but her hair is not colorful |
| 20:04.26 | carols | dberkholz: yeah, most people's aren't. :-( |
| 20:04.31 | carols | shame, really. |
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| 20:07.29 | gevaerts | thinks it all depends on *why* someone's hair is colourful |
| 20:07.44 | carols | gevaerts: we don't need a reason why ;-) |
| 20:07.54 | dberkholz | we just need to do or die |
| 20:08.04 | carols | indeed. |
| 20:08.07 | gevaerts | carols: I mean, if someone slips and falls on s stack of paint buckets, that's different :) |
| 20:08.14 | carols | gevaerts: fair point. |
| 20:13.22 | meflin | broing is under-rated |
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| 20:32.54 | allman_ | dberkholz: My hair was roughly Carol's color in college, FWIW. |
| 20:33.51 | allman_ | But having someone else's hair that color meansI get to enjoy it more. |
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| 20:50.29 | dberkholz | allman_: good to know =) |
| 20:52.23 | meflin | I feel old enough |
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| 20:59.40 | dberkholz | so if i ever want to join the ospo, i will dye my hair purple. |
| 21:00.43 | Darrel | I will dye it neon blue. It should look cool. If I always dress in black :D |
| 21:00.48 | allman_ | perfect :) |
| 21:01.45 | meflin | fairly sure my beard disqualifies me from ospo :) |
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| 21:02.07 | allman_ | why do you say that? |
| 21:02.19 | meflin | its very lame |
| 21:02.26 | meflin | looks like I've not shaved in a week |
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| 21:03.09 | allman_ | go for the goatee |
| 21:03.16 | meflin | I've not shaved in 15 years .. so my pic has Alan's beard photoshoped on me :D |
| 21:03.28 | meflin | allman_: meh all white? meh |
| 21:03.44 | Darrel | hehe, all good male programmers must have beards :P |
| 21:03.47 | allman_ | There's always purple… ;-) |
| 21:03.54 | meflin | hmm |
| 21:04.02 | meflin | purple beard ... you know that is an idea |
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| 21:05.04 | meflin | probably a better Idea to put my efforts into students rather then beard tho |
| 21:05.22 | allman_ | excellent plan :) |
| 21:05.52 | censorydep | depends, is you beard growing algorithm open source? ;-) |
| 21:06.10 | meflin | censorydep: if anyone wants the genome its oss |
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| 21:07.10 | meflin | they can work on the beard while I wrangle students |
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| 21:38.59 | meflin | passes carols a tea the shipment arrived |
| 21:39.07 | carols | thanks meflin :-) |
| 21:39.09 | carols | yay tea! |
| 21:40.15 | meflin | going to have to up-size packages since the oss-group is now all in one place ;) |
| 21:41.00 | carols | awesome :-) |
| 21:41.02 | carols | thank you! |
| 21:41.24 | meflin | with all the pps I felt thin in hand at MS |
| 21:42.01 | meflin | also I get major discounts so it costs me nothing :) |
| 21:43.50 | carols | well that's a nice perk :-) |
| 21:44.12 | meflin | it is :) |
| 21:46.54 | meflin | its not clear if I have a gsoc job this year ( got several irons in the fire ) ... but tea will arrive either way |
| 21:47.14 | carols | you are very kind :-) |
| 21:47.56 | meflin | well I must sadly insist on sharing this year :) |
| 21:48.06 | carols | "sadly" |
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| 21:48.22 | meflin | its relative :) |
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| 23:30.22 | anonn | Hi! Main question is: can i participate in gsoc if i'm studying at school? |
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| 23:32.07 | prajjwol | hey anonn, you should take a look at this: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 |
| 23:33.10 | anonn | actually it's my last year :D i'll graduate in june |
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