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17:10.15Anish_hi My name is Anish
17:10.39Anish_I had some questions about the google summer of code
17:11.29Anish_so to join the open source projects do I need to propose a project?
17:12.01Anish_or can I apply for one of the projects without proposing my own project?
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17:14.10olasdthe organizations often propose project ideas, but you have to make your own detailed proposal from that to be accepted
17:14.17gevaertsAnish_: organisations will have a list of ideas for projects, so you don't have to come up with yout own original idea, but they will expect you to work out the details of the proposal
17:14.58Anish_oh so we can look at their proposals and modify them?
17:15.15Anish_to add elements of our own?
17:17.02rgapolasd: can i make proposals for different organizations?
17:17.50olasdrgap: yes, although you might be better off doing one awesome proposal for an org instead of doing two so-so proposals and not get picked
17:19.05xyzabcDoes a person get benefit by adding a proposal then?
17:19.48olasdxyzabc: adding a proposal to what?
17:20.31xyzabcto any organizations ideas page
17:21.02olasdwell, yes, it means that you are motivated to work in the org in the first place, and that you have some ideas on your own
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18:26.10lgtanhi everyone!
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19:28.26liorihello, i'm preparing an application for a mentoring organization, and i'm curious what kind of “vouching” is necessary? is the goal to establish how reputable is an organization?
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19:30.35Ivanovicliori: jepp
19:32.26Ivanovicfor smaller, yet not too known projects google wants to be sure that the folks don't suddenly vanish leaving the students out there without any way to get support
19:40.22lioridoes it need to be from other accepted organizations, or any major established organization will do?
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21:55.59ollyliori: it think should be from an org which has previously taken in GSoC, or from someone who works at google
21:56.47ollytaken *part*, i mean
21:59.08lioriok, thank you
22:00.36ollyif you have admins or mentors who've been involved via other orgs, that's certainly worth mentioning too
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22:34.45praveshthanks all
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22:38.40lioriolly: not sure, i'll ask around. i know that we have two former gsoc students, both of them were successful
22:38.54liori(well, these students are among potential mentors)
22:39.11liori(well, ok, i'm one of them ^_^)
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22:59.43ollyliori: that seems worth mentioning too - I think they're really looking for indicators that you're likely to successfully mentor students
23:00.47lioriyes, i already added a note about that.
23:01.01liorithank you for your help
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23:33.46mooeypoohimsin, I have a question as a student. Will the companies publish a list of general ideas for projects we can pick from (or take general ideas out of) or will our suggested projects be completely up to us?
23:34.18mooeypoooy, nick completer. That was supposed to start with "Hi,"... ;)
23:34.47MatthewWilkesmooeypoo: First off, they're not companies, they're open source projects. Groups of volunteers.
23:35.30MatthewWilkesmooeypoo: Secondly, organisations provide a list of ideas but you have to write the proposal. You can base it on one of their suggestions or write your own, but the application is significantly longer than the idea you'll get from their list
23:35.42MatthewWilkesyou'll have to expand it and add in your own thoughts and ideas
23:35.45ansgarmooeypoo: Depends on the project. Most will provide a list of suggestions, but I guess they are also open to suggestions of students (I worked on a proposal I suggested myself last year).
23:37.09mooeypooYes, I didn't think I'll jsut have to mark the idea and be accepted, I knew I will have to design and write the proposal -- but it does help if we can see the general direction of what these organizations might be looking for.
23:37.32liorimooeypoo: yeah, as other said. i'll also add that the ideas proposed by organizations are often just that, ideas. they need to be developed into a full-featured project proposal
23:37.41mooeypooOf course.
23:38.22mooeypooYeah, I'm more interested in seeing if I can have some sort of "get inspired" list. It doesn't have to be a specific project, but it will definitely help, especially since I'm a relative newbie to the project, and to.. well.. proper non-hobbyish programming :)
23:38.56liorisure. each organization that applies needs to provide their own ideas list, it's a requirement from google
23:39.27lioribut, given that the application process for organization ends on march 29th, they still have time to prepare them
23:39.38liorifor organizations*
23:41.14lioribut if an organization took part in gsoc last year, it probably already has a list—even if it's just a list of ideas that weren't picked last year
23:41.38mooeypooYeah, of course. I started looking at previous years' project to get some sort of an idea. I'm sorry for being a bit noobish here, but as I said, I'm new to computer science. My background is Physics, and while I do program I did that as a hobby mostly... and.. well, I want to make sure I can design and aim towards a project that is needed and not just shoot blindly in the dark.
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23:50.29mooeypooThanks for the answers!
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