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| 10:16.36 | spectie | mornin' all! |
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| 10:29.41 | OsakaFoo | Mornin' gov'nor |
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| 11:35.09 | Adi__ | Hey, a question? Can i still participate in gsoc once i complete my UG? |
| 11:36.30 | Crystallis | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page?ModPagespeed=noscript#8._I_graduate_in_the_middle_of_the |
| 11:36.49 | Crystallis | "As long as you are accepted into or enrolled in a college or university program as of May 27, 2013, you are eligible to participate in the program." |
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| 11:38.22 | Adi__ | sigh. so thats a no. I graduated recently. |
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| 13:48.20 | giuscri_ | Hello there! Is there any org. that would be interested in developing OCR-software? |
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| 15:42.28 | msanford | hey im going to apply as a student and i was wondering if there are any old accepted proposals online? |
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| 15:44.57 | kai | I'm sure there are. I'd point you at mine, but I don't think I'd accept my own proposals these days. everything is so much more structured :) |
| 15:45.11 | waldi | msanford: talk to the organization you like to apply for. they set the rules for proposals. also many of them will link from there organization page |
| 15:46.47 | msanford | ok thanks i was talking to the director of the computer science department at my school and he suggested asking around for info from previous years |
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| 15:49.34 | kai | msanford: I think the most important thing to read is the gsoc student guide |
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| 15:49.45 | kai | hmm |
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| 15:50.24 | msanford | kai: ok ill read that |
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| 15:53.13 | gsocbot | msanford: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 18:07.55 | baba | i have selected the project that i am interested in now what should be my next step ? |
| 18:08.39 | bahaa | !next |
| 18:08.41 | gsocbot | bahaa: "next" is April 8: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
| 18:08.42 | tomprince | Contact the organization. They should have some details on how to do that on or near the project page. |
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| 18:09.42 | bahaa | baba: wait for the announcement, the project might not be chosen |
| 18:10.13 | frenchie4111 | I contacted my org early |
| 18:10.31 | baba | bahaa: that project is listed under projects with confirmed mentor. |
| 18:10.32 | frenchie4111 | Just wanted to get a foot in the door, and they have a good chance of being accepted again if they were in the past |
| 18:10.51 | frenchie4111 | baba: The orgs haven't been chosen by google yet |
| 18:11.17 | baba | ok so everything will be finalized after 8th . |
| 18:11.47 | bahaa | baba: you may start writing your proposal, but better leave it till 8th |
| 18:12.17 | haseeb | !logs |
| 18:12.18 | gsocbot | haseeb: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 18:12.27 | baba | ok so it's better to be prepared till 8 th and than contact them. |
| 18:13.05 | gevaerts | There's definitely no problem with contacting organisations now |
| 18:13.18 | frenchie4111 | I agree with gevaerts |
| 18:13.19 | bahaa | I suggest you contact that project's people, understand more about the project and the idea's need working on |
| 18:13.28 | dhaun | baba: you can certainly talk to the org or mentor already, but even they can't make any final committments before the 8th |
| 18:13.38 | baba | ok |
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| 18:14.26 | tomprince | Many orgs are more likely to select people that have been involved and shown interest early. |
| 18:14.27 | frenchie4111 | How the org proposal reviewing going, carols? |
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| 18:18.31 | carols | frenchie4111: not too bad :-) |
| 18:18.44 | carols | we're finished with our first pass and are starting our second. |
| 18:20.01 | frenchie4111 | Sounds fun |
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| 18:21.33 | yogev_ezra | carols: Can you disclose how many organizations have applied this year, or is it classified info till April 8th? |
| 18:21.44 | carols | it's classified :-) |
| 18:22.01 | bahaa | can we extendify it ? |
| 18:22.09 | gevaerts | We can place bets on it |
| 18:22.10 | carols | extendify? |
| 18:22.12 | gevaerts | !numapps |
| 18:22.12 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 18:22.31 | gevaerts | I say 423 |
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| 18:23.40 | carldani | carols: does "first pass" mean some orgs are already out, or is this more of a "first pass" = "review submitted application", "second pass" = "review project ideas" ? |
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| 18:26.34 | carols | carldani: the former. |
| 18:27.37 | carldani | I hope it's not us. |
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| 18:28.32 | carols | sips some tea |
| 18:28.36 | gevaerts | carldani: well done! You got a straight answer! :) |
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| 18:29.24 | heller | can't wait until the 8th ;) |
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| 18:30.12 | carldani | I'm looking forward to the "hey, I am an expert in $PROJECT and want to contribute by mentoring" mails. If you accept them, they will vote for their friends to make sure those friends get a student slot and a free ride due to a sympathetic mentor. |
| 18:30.38 | baba | even i am impatiently waiting for the 8 th. |
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| 18:37.05 | yogev_ezra | carldani: You are waiting to receive such e-mails, or are waiting for Google to start receiving them? |
| 18:37.28 | halfdan- | carols: what was the main reason why orgs were voted out? |
| 18:37.34 | carols | halfdan-: their ideas pages. |
| 18:37.43 | carols | that's almost always the reason. |
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| 18:38.12 | halfdan- | can you say what factors were important? |
| 18:38.22 | carols | their adherence to our guidelines. |
| 18:38.44 | halfdan- | okay, thanks! |
| 18:38.48 | carols | yw |
| 18:40.13 | frenchie4111 | I think the 8th can wait a bit longer to come, I am excited for it but nervous as well |
| 18:40.53 | carldani | yogev_ezra: Our org will get those "I want to mentor plz" mails, like every year. |
| 18:42.05 | yogev_ezra | carldani: May I ask which org do you represent? :-) Our org is small enough that I know who can mentor and who can't even now, before we know which orgs are selected |
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| 18:43.51 | carldani | carols: Will the second round include another review of the ideas pages, i.e. should we recheck whether we may have missed something in the guidelines? |
| 18:44.16 | carldani | yogev_ezra: coreboot/flashrom, but this year I'm not an admin, just a possible mentor. |
| 18:44.23 | carols | carldani: the second round will include another review of ideas pages for those orgs that made it to the second round. |
| 18:44.45 | carldani | carols: Thanks for the info, will recheck our ideas page. |
| 18:44.48 | carols | ok |
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| 18:47.22 | carldani | yogev_ezra: If you get mentor requests from people you don't know, it's almost always fraudulent. Either a prof trying to give unfair advantage to her/his student, or a friend of a student. The more slots your org gets, the more such requests your org will get. |
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| 18:48.38 | yogev_ezra | carldani: Oh, coreboot, I really like your project. Our backup admin (XVilka) is also involved with your project. In our application I wrote that I hope that you can vouch for us :-) |
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| 18:51.22 | carldani | yogev_ezra: Oh, xvilka. Yes, he is really good. |
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| 18:56.01 | yogev_ezra | carldani: We might even do a joint project if we are both selected |
| 18:57.03 | carldani | yogev_ezra: which project do you represent? |
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| 18:57.26 | carldani | yogev_ezra: Project or org... |
| 18:58.17 | yogev_ezra | carldani: KolibriOS. Regarding the fake mentor applications, I don't worry at all. In our project I know personally everyone who is good enough to be a mentor. And if we are selected, no student is getting a free ride :-) |
| 18:59.26 | carldani | yogev_ezra: Good luck! |
| 19:00.15 | yogev_ezra | carldani: Thanks a lot, good luck to you too! |
| 19:01.06 | carldani | yogev_ezra: Thanks! |
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| 19:30.10 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 19:31.39 | baba | what happens when we get selected by two different org ? |
| 19:32.17 | gevaerts | They fight to the death |
| 19:32.23 | gevaerts | Well |
| 19:32.41 | gevaerts | They'll talk to each other, and possibly to you, and then decide who gets you |
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| 19:33.27 | baba | gevaerts: nice |
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| 19:34.36 | gevaerts | Note that there's no obligation to ask you. The basic assumption is that you don't apply to organisations you don't want to work for |
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| 19:34.41 | rihnapstor | gevaerts: but then its a personal choice right ? |
| 19:35.30 | MatthewWilkes | rihnapstor: Orgs will try and give you a personal choice, but if one org had you ranked highly and the other didn't they might easily decide on their own |
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| 19:36.55 | ojwb | rihnapstor: also, sometimes the decision needs to be made with little notice |
| 19:37.44 | tomprince | Also, maybe one org doesn't have an alternate and the other does. |
| 19:37.45 | ojwb | e.g. if you weren't in an orgs top N but resolving a student in that N that another org wants means you move up into it |
| 19:38.20 | ojwb | as gevaerts says, if you only apply for projects you'd be happy to do it'll all be ok |
| 19:38.38 | rihnapstor | yeah thats obvious ojwb |
| 19:38.51 | carols | wonders why a student would apply to work for an organization they didn't want to work for |
| 19:39.26 | gevaerts | carols: maybe they're undercover agents for competing organisations? |
| 19:39.30 | carols | huh. |
| 19:39.36 | carols | an interesting idea. |
| 19:39.45 | MatthewWilkes | founds JazzBox |
| 19:39.46 | gmcharlt | core wars, GSOC-style? |
| 19:39.57 | gevaerts | I don't know if it's a likely scenario :) |
| 19:39.58 | tomprince | Well, the might want to work for one, but have a backup that they'd be much less happy with, conceivably. |
| 19:40.43 | MatthewWilkes | tomprince: In that case they should tell the backup that they're only a backup and to make their decisions in the dedup meeting accordingly |
| 19:40.55 | ojwb | i think most students have a preference |
| 19:40.57 | gevaerts | applies as a student to MatthewWilkes' new org |
| 19:41.13 | ojwb | and most orgs realise that most students have a preference |
| 19:41.30 | ojwb | but some students seem reluctant to reveal it |
| 19:41.31 | MatthewWilkes | Or, to put it more constructively, if you have a project you'd really love to do and a few you'd love to do, just put it in the application for your favoured one that you've applied other places but this is your preference |
| 19:42.24 | evil_ | Ehrm .. does anyone happen to know where the irc logs are stored ? |
| 19:42.34 | gevaerts | !logs | evil_ |
| 19:42.34 | gsocbot | evil_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 19:42.35 | derdon | ~/.weechat/logs |
| 19:42.46 | MatthewWilkes | derdon: srsly? |
| 19:42.47 | ojwb | ooh, bot is back |
| 19:42.48 | evil_ | thanks :) |
| 19:42.52 | derdon | MatthewWilkes: nope :D |
| 19:43.03 | MatthewWilkes | no cookies for you |
| 19:44.54 | derdon | pfff |
| 19:45.03 | gevaerts | !no cookie | derdon |
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| 19:45.46 | gevaerts | hmm |
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| 20:16.53 | sonney2k | !next |
| 20:16.55 | gsocbot | sonney2k: "next" is April 8: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
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| 20:29.49 | Crystallis | Question. So I am looking at the proposed timeline for this year's GSOC and it stretches quite a bit later past the start of my autumn semester. Is that a problem? If so, would it be more of a problem with organizations I would be working with or GSOC in general? |
| 20:30.06 | carols | Crystallis: that's entirely up to the org you apply to work with. |
| 20:33.01 | derdon | Crystallis: are you hungarian by chance? it's the only country I know so far which has spring / autumn semesters instead of summer / winter |
| 20:33.35 | Crystallis | No, American but my autumn semester start date is in early August. |
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| 20:34.26 | derdon | ah, I guess it depends very much on the state there |
| 20:35.14 | ojwb | Crystallis: talk to the orgs you're interested in about it |
| 20:35.45 | ojwb | in the past it's not been uncommon for students to have exams or terms overlapping the start a bit |
| 20:36.01 | ojwb | the timeline is shifted a bit later this year, so I guess we'll see more of the reverse effect |
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