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| 12:26.07 | imdev | any idea.. when will this year's GSOC will start |
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| 12:26.41 | buddycloud | !next |
| 12:26.43 | gsocbot | buddycloud: "next" is April 8: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
| 12:27.01 | blast007 | imdev: there's a timeline on the GSoC website. ;) |
| 12:27.05 | buddycloud | At that point you can start approaching mentoring organisations. |
| 12:27.45 | blast007 | you can start approaching them already - no guarantee that the one you're approaching will get in, but nothing stops you from talking to them already |
| 12:28.59 | imdev | thanks blast007 .. I am novice.. you mean to talk on irc.. or there any specific mediums? |
| 12:29.30 | blast007 | whatever contact method the organization uses. IRC, mailing lists, forums.. |
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| 14:24.53 | skoushik | Hi, are we supposed to submit a project out of the blue? or are the mentoring organisations give a list of it? |
| 14:25.04 | skoushik | *project proposal |
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| 14:26.31 | dhaun | the orgs will provide a list of ideas that you can choose from |
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| 14:26.56 | dhaun | although many orgs also accept ideas not on their list - but it's not required |
| 14:27.05 | gevaerts | You can also come up with a fully original proposal, but that's much harder to get right |
| 14:28.50 | ShadeNitro | hello |
| 14:29.13 | ShadeNitro | Is anyone there? |
| 14:29.30 | skoushik | I'm not a computer science student. I've read many previous year's ideas. I couldn't really understand what it was about. |
| 14:30.23 | skoushik | Is it necessary to have a good background in computer science to participate in this? |
| 14:30.32 | ShadeNitro | What are the prerequisites for the programme? I read the ones given on the website, but wanted a slightly more detailed answer. |
| 14:30.45 | gevaerts | !studentguide | ShadeNitro |
| 14:30.45 | gsocbot | ShadeNitro: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 14:30.54 | gevaerts | ShadeNitro: that should be a useful read |
| 14:31.06 | ShadeNitro | I read that, thanks anyway. |
| 14:31.11 | ShadeNitro | But It's a little ambiguous |
| 14:31.29 | ShadeNitro | It doesnt mention the languages required |
| 14:31.34 | gevaerts | ShadeNitro: there really is only one answer in gsoc: "it depends" :) |
| 14:31.42 | ShadeNitro | :) |
| 14:31.53 | ShadeNitro | And how do I apple |
| 14:32.10 | ShadeNitro | I did a little programming in high school |
| 14:32.23 | ShadeNitro | Sorry, typo |
| 14:32.36 | ShadeNitro | how do I APPLY |
| 14:33.14 | evil_ | ShadeNitro: you need to know programming well enough. |
| 14:33.28 | evil_ | After all it's about spending your summer coding stuff |
| 14:33.30 | gevaerts | skoushik: that's going to depend on the organisation and project. For some of them, without a fairly strong CS background you can basically forget it, but others are going to be a lot less demanding in that area |
| 14:33.57 | gevaerts | !numapps |
| 14:33.57 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 14:34.38 | evil_ | 1212 is a great number considering the year '12 :P |
| 14:34.43 | gevaerts | ShadeNitro: there were 180 different mentoring organisations last year. You can probably safely bet on there being more than 20 different programming languages involved :) |
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| 14:34.56 | skoushik | Ok. Thanks! |
| 14:35.03 | ShadeNitro | Thanks guys :) |
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| 15:52.33 | fire | when i have submited the applications the organization ranks the application in which does the mentor have any role to play or the organization based on my application selects me? |
| 15:53.03 | |Kev| | The mentor is part of the org. |
| 15:53.19 | |Kev| | How orgs pick students is an internal decision, it is likely to involve the mentors. |
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| 15:53.51 | ChrisOelmueller | it does not need to involve ranking at all by the way. |
| 15:54.28 | |Kev| | Well, it kinda does, in as much as there will be ranked 'those students the org wants' and 'those it doesn't' :) |
| 15:54.37 | |Kev| | But right, it's not a strict total order or anything. |
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| 15:56.11 | fire | so mentor has an important role to play in the selection process ? |
| 15:56.18 | |Kev| | Probably. |
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| 15:57.49 | fire | ok :) |
| 15:57.56 | hereticgod | hi all |
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| 17:13.32 | j15h | hi |
| 17:14.23 | j15h | is there any language computing organizations this year ? |
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| 17:15.08 | sunu | j15h: orgs haven't been announced yet |
| 17:15.41 | j15h | sunu, do google accept language organizations ? |
| 17:17.14 | sunu | well atleast they accept cpython. So I think they do. |
| 17:17.18 | meflin | orgs like python? yes |
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| 17:18.24 | j15h | sunu, cpython is different. By language organizations, I meant localization related language computing |
| 17:18.30 | j15h | meflin, ^ |
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| 17:19.31 | meflin | gsoc is code concentric not documentation or localization |
| 17:20.35 | ChrisOelmueller | why don't you check the list of accepted organizations in previous years on melange, identify organizations that fit your criteria and ask them whether they applied for this year? |
| 17:21.56 | j15h | ChrisOelmueller, thanks. |
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| 17:22.42 | j15h | meflin, heard that there are many code concentric things in language computing |
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| 17:25.03 | meflin | that could be true, I have no knowledge of it |
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| 17:28.33 | gevaerts | j15h: localisation, or natural language processing? |
| 17:28.37 | gevaerts | I bet there's some of the latter |
| 17:29.12 | j15h | gevaerts, natural language processing |
| 17:30.15 | gevaerts | You could have a look at last year's list of accepted organisations, but at this point just waiting two more days might well make more sense |
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| 17:31.28 | gevaerts | sees that only one of the four organisations that had "nlp" as a tag last year also had "language" there |
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| 17:32.54 | meflin | ah I totally misunderstood the question |
| 17:33.29 | anivar | j15h: i can see groups like ankur in 2012 SoC |
| 17:34.17 | gevaerts | Looking for "nlp" for 2012 finds Apertium, CMUSphinx, DBPedia Spotlight, and R |
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| 17:36.40 | anivar | j15h: This year i applied as an admin for swatantra Malayalam computing, an organisation working on Indic script based Language computing . Project ideas here http://wiki.smc.org.in/SoC/2013/Project_ideas |
| 17:37.08 | j15h | anivar, where can I see last year's accepted organizations ? |
| 17:37.22 | gevaerts | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
| 17:37.36 | j15h | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2012 only has accepted projects I think |
| 17:37.49 | j15h | ok. got it |
| 17:37.57 | j15h | I can search organizations there |
| 17:38.08 | j15h | is it possible to see list of them ? |
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| 17:38.19 | anivar | j15h: check http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 |
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| 17:39.09 | j15h | anivar, thanks. |
| 17:40.10 | gevaerts | Make sure to be creative when using the tag filter |
| 17:40.46 | gevaerts | "language" won't find all nlp orgs, and "nlp" may not find all of them either |
| 17:41.03 | gevaerts | So you'll have to try different tags and make notes |
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| 17:41.54 | j15h | gevaerts, thanks |
| 17:42.03 | anivar | gevaerts: nlp is only one subset of language computing . There are other ares like visual computing (OCR , Handrwriting recognition etc) , Speech processing , Accessibility etc too |
| 17:42.17 | anivar | areas .. typo |
| 17:42.22 | gevaerts | anivar: oh, of course |
| 17:42.58 | gevaerts | anivar: I was surprised by three out of four orgs that use "nlp" as a tag not having "language" though |
| 17:44.00 | anivar | thinks in these days the term NLP is mostly used by bigdata projects |
| 17:44.40 | gevaerts | I'd say that on the 2012 list, big data only applies to one or two out of four orgs with the "nlp" tag :) |
| 17:45.19 | anivar | gevaerts: I havn't explored 2012list much |
| 17:45.52 | gevaerts | I'm neither a big data person nor a language person, so I can't really say much about it |
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| 17:47.49 | gevaerts | Anyway, my main point was that the tags can be a bit hit and miss, so you need more than one or two minutes to find the organisations you care about |
| 17:47.50 | anivar | j15h: Also take a look at mediawiki gsoc projects http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013 |
| 17:48.05 | anivar | gevaerts: totally agree |
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| 17:49.02 | j15h | anivar, thanks. mediawiki is an interesting project. |
| 17:49.32 | anivar | j15h: mediawiki developed quite a lot of internationalisation tools and jquery libraries last year . |
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| 22:35.56 | banas | What format are the proposals submitted in? The project I am looking at involves making a web app. So I wanted to include design mock-ups. |
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| 22:42.35 | dhaun | banas: unless Melange made any changes recently, it's probably still all text. But you could provide links to your mockups. |
| 22:43.40 | banas | dhaun: Yeah, I guess I'll have to do that :) Thanks. |
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| 23:07.42 | ojwb | dhaun: the proposal textarea in melange takes HTML, doesn't it? |
| 23:08.04 | ojwb | though it sometimes mangles it a bit ISTR |
| 23:08.16 | dhaun | yeah, but I'm not sure if it allows uploading of images |
| 23:08.47 | ojwb | ah. iswym by "all text" |
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