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| 00:01.27 | t4nk658 | hello |
| 00:01.36 | t4nk658 | I was wondering |
| 00:01.46 | t4nk658 | what age you have to be to apply? |
| 00:02.17 | ojwb | 18 or older |
| 00:02.32 | ojwb | there's a date you have to be 18 on or before - see the FAQ |
| 00:04.08 | t4nk658 | thank you |
| 00:04.15 | t4nk658 | i guess i cant do it then |
| 00:05.45 | ojwb | t4nk658: there's google code in if you're under 18 |
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| 01:47.42 | t4nk412 | is there anyway a high school junior could be accepted into this program? |
| 01:47.56 | ojwb | t4nk412: no |
| 01:48.13 | ojwb | but see google code in |
| 01:48.21 | ojwb | that's aimed at high schoolers |
| 01:49.44 | t4nk412 | thanks |
| 01:50.05 | t4nk412 | are there any other such programs for high school students that is sponsored by google? |
| 01:50.55 | ojwb | i'm not aware of anything else |
| 01:53.02 | t4nk412 | thank you for helping me |
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| 07:37.25 | gsocbot | halfdan-: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4 |
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| 08:27.30 | ovilia | Waiting for the accepted lists of ideas. XD |
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| 09:11.34 | derdon | is an image of a scanned ISIC card enough as a prove for being a student? |
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| 10:07.48 | olly | derdon: i doubt it - the FAQ talks about documentation from the institution you're enrolled with or attending |
| 10:08.15 | olly | so a letter of acceptance is probably OK |
| 10:08.55 | derdon | olly: does it have to be in english? |
| 10:10.14 | olly | derdon: ISTR no |
| 10:11.01 | derdon | everyone needs a scanner nowadays :/ |
| 10:11.19 | olly | or a digital camera and some care |
| 10:11.42 | |Kev| | I submit all my expense claims with photos taken on my phone. |
| 10:11.44 | derdon | yeah |
| 10:11.48 | |Kev| | Scanners are overrated :) |
| 10:12.09 | derdon | good |
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| 10:14.28 | MatthewWilkes | especially as many smartphones have apps that will put some sensible curves on to make it look more black and white, as well as de-skew etc to get a rectangle |
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| 10:15.06 | derdon | MatthewWilkes: what is a smartphone? |
| 10:15.34 | olly | a phone with ideas above its station |
| 10:15.36 | derdon | mine was $10 and I can throw it in the air without worrying :) |
| 10:16.19 | Hamish_B | I just threw my phone in the air and now it is worth $0 |
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| 12:39.35 | Vish74 | hello |
| 12:44.10 | serge_sans_paill | olleh ! |
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| 12:53.33 | idkwhatever | Will building most projects require Linux? |
| 12:54.21 | |Kev| | Seems unlikely. |
| 12:54.51 | |Kev| | But working on a *nix system is probably the path of least resistance for many projects. |
| 12:54.58 | |Kev| | (Be it Linux or BSD or OS X or whatever). |
| 12:56.43 | stefanha | idkwhatever: You can run Linux in a virtual machine if you need it but don't want to install it on your physical machine. |
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| 12:57.41 | |Kev| | And can be virtualised in free VM software. |
| 12:58.32 | yogev_ezra | Depends on the project actually. Our official build server is on Linux but some of the build tools are available only on Windows so the server calls them using Wine. But the kernel can be built inside Windows, inside Linux and inside the project itself :-) |
| 12:59.02 | |Kev| | yogev_ezra: The form of the questions means it doesn't depend on the project :) |
| 12:59.14 | |Kev| | The question was "most" not "any" or "all". |
| 13:00.02 | yogev_ezra | |Kev|: right :-) just wanted to tell that there are some weird build ways you haven't thought about :-) |
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| 13:01.14 | |Kev| | And there are probably some Windows-only projects, too, but I'd bet they're a minority. |
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| 13:20.25 | sunu | gsocbot: faq |
| 13:20.26 | gsocbot | sunu: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
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| 13:23.04 | pac | hello |
| 13:23.48 | Vish74 | hi! |
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| 13:29.13 | pac | hello everyone |
| 13:30.00 | sunu | hi pac |
| 13:30.37 | skoushik | Hi.. Will the organisations present in the previous years attend this time too?.. or is it a fresh list every year? |
| 13:30.38 | JordiGH | !next |
| 13:30.40 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "next" is April 8 19:00 UTC: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
| 13:30.57 | JordiGH | skoushik: Fresh list every year with high degree of intersection between consecutive years. |
| 13:31.26 | skoushik | Oh ok.. Thank you! |
| 13:31.30 | paultag | huzzah |
| 13:32.23 | pac | so, how many organisations are expected this time !!! |
| 13:32.29 | JordiGH | Around 180. |
| 13:32.34 | JordiGH | Same as last year. |
| 13:32.45 | pac | okk |
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| 13:34.02 | pac | so , will we find new faces there ? |
| 13:34.12 | JordiGH | Almost certainly. |
| 13:34.21 | pac | from organisation side . |
| 13:34.25 | yogev_ezra | I really hope so :-) |
| 13:35.14 | pac | Jordigh ,did you also participated last year ? |
| 13:36.04 | JordiGH | pac: Yes, and the year before that. |
| 13:36.35 | pac | that's awesome. |
| 13:36.49 | JordiGH | Glad you think so. |
| 13:37.09 | skoushik | How much programming experience is needed to contribute to a project? |
| 13:37.27 | JordiGH | skoushik: http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ |
| 13:37.30 | sunu | skoushik: it depends on the org |
| 13:38.30 | skoushik | Nice. Thanks |
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| 13:56.17 | Silox| | Hello, is there already a list of approved mentoring organisations? |
| 13:56.47 | kousik | no till now there is no list available |
| 13:56.51 | yogev_ezra | Silox|: in 5 hours from now |
| 13:57.07 | Silox| | Awesome! |
| 13:58.35 | stefanha | There is a countdown on the http://google-melange.com/ page if you need to know the exact time, like many of us here... ;-) |
| 13:59.12 | Silox| | Nice, thanks :) |
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| 13:59.55 | kousik | do you know how project proposal get selected ? I mean what is the actual procedure ?? |
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| 14:01.27 | yogev_ezra | kousik: It's classified information, Google employees decide it every year |
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| 14:02.39 | |Kev| | kousik: Do you mean *project* proposals, or how orgs get selected? |
| 14:02.52 | |Kev| | If it's project proposals, this has nothing to do with Google, and is down to the individual orgs to choose how to fill their slots. |
| 14:03.14 | kousik | yogev_ezra: I am talking about the selection procedure of mentoring orgs i.e: how they prefer one proposal over another ? |
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| 14:04.28 | |Kev| | kousik: Varies entirely by org, then. I judge based upon the value of the project, but mostly how engaged the student has been with the community, whether I think they'll finish, how easy they'll be to work with, etc. etc. etc. |
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| 14:10.20 | kousik | Actually I think it's a very tough job to select one project idea from a bunch of ideas provided by an organization ..... because one org. may provide a plethora of ideas ... similarly there are a lot of participating orgs... So can you tell me how to select ideas as many ideas may seem attractive..... |
| 14:11.12 | |Kev| | Not really, you need to decide which projects to apply for yourself. |
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| 14:15.11 | rigved | hi everyone. i have a small query. if i am enrolled in an online course at https://www.coursera.org/ , then am i considered a student? |
| 14:15.13 | kousik | that's why i was asking you if any restriction is there of an org. that they would prefer such a proposal whose idea was admired by a major number of participants ? |
| 14:16.22 | musegarden | I don't think that counts, rigved, but I could be wrong. |
| 14:16.47 | fcerullo | hi guys.. do you know what time the accepted orgs will be announced today? |
| 14:17.01 | rigved | musegarden: ok. could you please direct me to where i can find out for sure? |
| 14:17.22 | sunu | fcerullo: 1900 utc |
| 14:17.57 | musegarden | here you go rigved : http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#2._Whos_eligible_to_participate_as_a |
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| 14:26.13 | JordiGH | Gah, I'm getting patches at a faster rate than I can review and apply them. |
| 14:26.25 | JordiGH | Screw it, give everyone push access? (y/n) |
| 14:26.39 | sunu | n |
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| 14:26.50 | musegarden | I'd say no |
| 14:26.56 | gevaerts | gives JordiGH a coin |
| 14:27.15 | sunu | JordiGH: what project ? |
| 14:27.18 | JordiGH | sunu: Octave. |
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| 14:27.36 | ansgar | JordiGH: Find trusted minions to do the work. Blame them if anything goes wrong. |
| 14:27.44 | musegarden | sounds legit |
| 14:27.45 | JordiGH | We already have some minions. |
| 14:27.47 | JordiGH | We need more minions. |
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| 14:28.46 | rigved | musegarden: thanks |
| 14:29.09 | JordiGH | It's just that almost every patch needs a tweak here and there, and I feel like I have to educate every contributor on how to do things properly. It takes work to do just this much. |
| 14:29.15 | JordiGH | I hardly write new code myself nowadays. |
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| 14:30.08 | ravenlock | looks at watch |
| 14:30.18 | ravenlock | *tap* *tap* *tap* |
| 14:30.25 | ravenlock | doesn't seem to be moving quite fast enough |
| 14:30.25 | sunu | 4:30 :D |
| 14:30.51 | ravenlock | 0930 here |
| 14:31.16 | downey | JordiGH: sounds like the typical free software developer's career path :) |
| 14:31.32 | VarunDotCuDotCc | Fours hours in organisation declaration...can't wait |
| 14:31.42 | sunu | ravenlock: I mean 4:30 left |
| 14:31.49 | ravenlock | ah |
| 14:31.51 | ravenlock | nods |
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| 14:33.11 | JordiGH | downey: I suppose so. |
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| 14:36.50 | fire | when the list will be revealed it will be exactly 12 am over here :D |
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| 14:37.26 | gosour | Hello extreme newbie to opensource here. |
| 14:37.38 | downey | welcome gosour :) |
| 14:37.58 | gosour | this is my first iirc chat. Any tips and suggestions |
| 14:38.15 | JordiGH | Hehe, if I recall correctly chat... |
| 14:38.36 | VarunDotCuDotCc | Are you interested in GSoC? |
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| 14:38.49 | gosour | yes yes yes |
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| 14:40.02 | VarunDotCuDotCc | You should read guide, FAQ.. |
| 14:40.34 | gosour | Read them. The thing is I don't have a very convincing opensource background... |
| 14:40.49 | downey | gosour: few of us did when we started |
| 14:40.59 | downey | (that's why GSoC exists!) |
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| 14:42.27 | gosour | I have an intermediate grasp on C and python, and recently took on maintaining my github account. |
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| 14:44.21 | phillipuniverse | !num |
| 14:44.23 | gosour | downey, can you share your experience and things you think are very important |
| 14:44.25 | phillipuniverse | !numbers |
| 14:44.36 | phillipuniverse | hey what's the command to see GSoC by the numbers? |
| 14:44.41 | phillipuniverse | all the stats of the previous years? |
| 14:44.44 | Lennie | !stats |
| 14:44.46 | gsocbot | Lennie: I have 2 registered users with 2 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 14:44.46 | Lennie | ? |
| 14:44.48 | Lennie | guess not :D |
| 14:44.56 | phillipuniverse | lol |
| 14:45.07 | phillipuniverse | it's something like !numbers or !num or !history |
| 14:45.09 | phillipuniverse | !history |
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| 14:45.22 | Lennie | You can google it |
| 14:45.23 | MatthewWilkes | !statistics |
| 14:45.23 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: "statistics" is see !numapps |
| 14:45.28 | MatthewWilkes | !numapps | phillipuniverse |
| 14:45.29 | gsocbot | phillipuniverse: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 14:45.29 | phillipuniverse | that's it |
| 14:45.32 | phillipuniverse | thanks! |
| 14:45.44 | MatthewWilkes | see also: |
| 14:45.45 | MatthewWilkes | !chances |
| 14:45.47 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: "chances" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 14:45.49 | Lennie | !cookie | MatthewWilkes |
| 14:45.50 | gsocbot | MatthewWilkes: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 14:46.01 | downey | gosour: IMHO best way to maximize your chances of being accepted is to get involved in the project you want to work with right away. find them when they're released later today and figure out how to submit a patch or two before you submit your application |
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| 14:46.12 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Sugar's the last thing I need at a time like this! Too nervous! |
| 14:46.19 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, what's up? |
| 14:46.22 | frenchie4111 | !next |
| 14:46.31 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, nervous for org apps/ |
| 14:46.33 | gsocbot | frenchie4111: "next" is April 8 19:00 UTC: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
| 14:46.37 | downey | welcome back gsocbot :) |
| 14:46.39 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Organisation announcement day, of course! |
| 14:46.58 | frenchie4111 | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Difference+from+now+April+8th+2013+19%3A00+UTC+nanoseconds |
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| 14:47.31 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, which org? |
| 14:47.31 | alexo | hello everyone, another giant noob here :) |
| 14:47.50 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, or was that a stupid question :P? |
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| 14:49.18 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: Plone |
| 14:49.28 | Lennie | :) |
| 14:49.49 | MatthewWilkes | Lennie: I could have been involved in Zope or Pyramid, etc, but they generally either apply under Plone or PSF |
| 14:50.09 | kai | MatthewWilkes: not that you can change anything at this point, anyway |
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| 14:52.53 | MatthewWilkes | kai: I could check the ideas list is public again… |
| 14:53.26 | kai | even that'd be too late at this point, though |
| 14:53.36 | Lennie | MatthewWilkes, I'm pretty sure that the decisions have already been made ^_^ |
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| 14:54.01 | kai | I doubt even a serious investment in chocolate wouldn't change that |
| 14:54.23 | frenchie4111 | I am sure there is some yet to be made. But I was under the impression that they took snapshots of the idea page the moment the deadline hit |
| 14:54.25 | kai | er would... |
| 14:54.53 | kai | shrugs |
| 14:55.31 | MatthewWilkes | hehe |
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| 14:56.05 | Lennie | frenchie4111, wrong impression :) |
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| 14:57.21 | pac | hello everyone |
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| 14:58.13 | pac | hello everyone |
| 14:58.28 | pac | ... |
| 14:58.35 | pac | :) |
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| 15:00.08 | kai | aha |
| 15:00.22 | aghisla | serves hot chocolate and tea |
| 15:00.41 | waldi_ | i need more chocolate |
| 15:01.00 | kai | frenchie4111: that does sound a bit overengineered. I'm not sure google is into running web crawlers ;) |
| 15:04.29 | frenchie4111 | :D |
| 15:04.37 | yogev_ezra | kai: To be honest, I invested in our project ideas page, but not TOO much. Because in previous years, I saw some projects get declined, and the feedback they got from Google was: "Your organization application and your ideas page were excellent, but we couldn't accept you this time just because we needed some space for other organizations". So I thought to myself, what's the point of investing 10 man-days in ideas page, if it gives |
| 15:04.54 | |Kev| | [if it gives...] |
| 15:05.02 | VarunDotCuDotCc | no result |
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| 15:05.22 | kai | yogev_ezra: you can point any newcomers to that page? |
| 15:05.44 | yogev_ezra | kai: to our project ideas page? |
| 15:05.55 | MatthewWilkes | yogev_ezra: Can you link to yours? I'm curious |
| 15:06.20 | kai | actually, I think the rate of non-paid contributers sticking with the project is better than the rate of gsoc students sticking with the project |
| 15:06.28 | kai | s/project/org/g |
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| 15:06.54 | yogev_ezra | MatthewWilkes: http://wiki.kolibrios.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2013 |
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| 15:08.44 | kai | yogev_ezra: yeah. I like our GSoC ideas page for new people coming in asking for fun projects to do |
| 15:09.06 | kai | gives them a person to talk to and an idea what things would be valuable for the project |
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| 15:12.03 | yogev_ezra | kai: you meant to say "our GSoC ideas page" or "your GSoC ideas page"? I completely lost you, sorry :-( |
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| 15:13.33 | sunu | kai: I think as a student I'll keep contributing to the org till I learn new stuff and the mentors/maintainers are helpful and friendly. |
| 15:17.03 | kai | yogev_ezra: well, speaking from my experience I can only talk about my org's GSoC page |
| 15:17.27 | kai | yogev_ezra: but my point is that a good project ideas list is great all year round, not just during GSoC |
| 15:17.50 | kai | sunu: that's what they all say, and then after the summer vacation, university happens ;) |
| 15:18.29 | kai | sunu: as a grad student afflicted with a final stage phd thesis, I can sympathise |
| 15:19.15 | frenchie4111 | Eww. Goodluck on that |
| 15:19.37 | yogev_ezra | kai: We have a much more complete project ideas list for people that are already involved with the project. The list for GSoC only includes ideas for which we are committed to provide a mentor, should a student select one of them. The other list is just "If you can do anything from this list on your own, then do it and give it to us" :-) |
| 15:20.37 | tomprince | yogev_ezra: I do remember that there were also many organizations that didn't get in, because the didn't have a good idea page. |
| 15:20.55 | sunu | kai: I am contributing small fixes for moin for a few months and I enjoy it :) |
| 15:21.32 | yogev_ezra | tomprince: That's correct, but what I wrote before meant that having the best project ideas page and the best org application doesn't automatically get you in. |
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| 15:21.49 | yogev_ezra | tomprince: So I stopped when I felt it's "good enough" |
| 15:21.50 | sunu | College gives me enough free time. I am thankful for that :) |
| 15:23.16 | sunu | looks at the watch |
| 15:23.34 | sunu | 3:30 hours left |
| 15:23.46 | kai | !when |
| 15:23.46 | gsocbot | kai: "when" is later |
| 15:23.52 | MatthewWilkes | indeed |
| 15:23.54 | kai | what gsocbot says :) |
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| 15:23.59 | frenchie4111 | Lol |
| 15:24.04 | MatthewWilkes | and it'll be when I'm chomping at the bit to get to the pub |
| 15:24.12 | MatthewWilkes | along with at least half of the population… |
| 15:24.28 | kai | MatthewWilkes: what game is on tonight? |
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| 15:28.15 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Maggie Thatcher died this morning |
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| 15:30.14 | kai | MatthewWilkes: oh, right. I read. that news hasn't really registered in germany yet, for some reason. |
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| 15:30.35 | JordiGH | lol? http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/18914 |
| 15:31.12 | JordiGH | I suppose the topic police is off duty right now. |
| 15:31.16 | JordiGH | posts some offtopic. |
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| 15:36.13 | kai | oh well, time to get the heck out of here. |
| 15:36.24 | kai | and by here, I mean work, not IRC |
| 15:36.25 | kai | :) |
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| 15:44.05 | badlogic | t - 3.5h |
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| 15:44.07 | badlogic | exciting |
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| 15:45.29 | jackass | Can anybody give me some link of various stats of GSoC 2012, abut how many ideas of each org and how many slots each org got, etc |
| 15:45.53 | phillipuniverse | !numapps |
| 15:45.53 | gsocbot | phillipuniverse: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 15:45.58 | gevaerts | !numapps | jackass |
| 15:45.58 | gsocbot | jackass: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 15:46.23 | gevaerts | I don't think there are stats about ideas per org |
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| 15:46.50 | gevaerts | For slots per org, see the accepted projects lists and have fun with the exported csv :) |
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| 15:49.41 | jackass | Hey, if I want to find out how many ideas were proposed by Org X in 2012 and how many slots were provided to it, where can I find it? |
| 15:50.15 | gevaerts | You can't |
| 15:50.24 | gevaerts | There are no published stats about proposals per org |
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| 15:50.33 | MatthewWilkes | or about slots per org, only accepted students |
| 15:50.43 | MatthewWilkes | orgs often queue for more or give excess ones back |
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| 15:51.03 | gevaerts | Well, you can ask specific orgs directly of course, but they're not unlikely to refuse to tell you |
| 15:51.09 | gevaerts | Also, |
| 15:51.13 | gevaerts | !odds | jackass |
| 15:51.13 | gsocbot | jackass: "odds" is Odds, chances or probability really do not come into play for GSoC. Rambling off numbers or asking What are the odds of getting accepted... is really quite useless as one's acceptance is not dictated by luck or numbers, but by the quality of your proposal and your skills instead. |
| 15:51.24 | olasd | gevaerts: unless they do their proposal process in the open |
| 15:51.56 | gevaerts | olasd: have fun reading logs for all that :) |
| 15:52.27 | gevaerts | Also, an irc message or a main in a mailing list archive stating that someone will propose a project does not mean they actually did |
| 15:53.05 | gevaerts | Sure, you'll find some stats if you look for them, but that's not going to be very easy, and it won't be very general |
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| 15:54.02 | gevaerts | If you're interested in tracking stats for a single org, that might be good enough, but if you want to e.g. find out what the org with the highest rate of accepted proposals is, you need all of them, and you hit !odds :) |
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| 15:59.34 | Guest94592 | Hi, can a student still apply for project? |
| 15:59.40 | Guest94592 | I think i missed the deadline |
| 16:00.00 | JordiGH | Guest94592: Students are still on time. The only missed deadline is for mentoring orgs. |
| 16:00.13 | MatthewWilkes | nikki___: If you miss the deadline nothing can be done. However, you haven't missed anything |
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| 16:00.18 | MatthewWilkes | Students can't apply yet |
| 16:00.25 | MatthewWilkes | !timeline | blah______ |
| 16:00.25 | gsocbot | blah______: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
| 16:00.41 | JordiGH | That's a long tail... |
| 16:00.56 | MatthewWilkes | blah______: Students can start to apply in 2 weeks |
| 16:01.25 | blah______ | MatthewWilkes: Thanks a lot. I am so happy now :) |
| 16:02.00 | MatthewWilkes | blah______: To improve your chances I recommend you look at the organisations list (which is being published in a few hours) and start talking to orgs that appeal to you |
| 16:02.06 | gevaerts | Useful gsoc skills #1: read timelines :) |
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| 16:02.40 | JordiGH | Nice, my fishing in the GSoC list worked. |
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| 16:02.50 | JordiGH | is now reeling in one student for a tricky project... |
| 16:04.33 | MatthewWilkes | #2, read FAQ |
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| 16:07.38 | blah______ | MatthewWilkes: Thanks a lot. That was really helpful |
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| 16:10.13 | FireFly | JordiGH: what project? |
| 16:10.48 | JordiGH | FireFly: GNU Octave. |
| 16:11.08 | FireFly | Ah |
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| 16:13.47 | ioio | why the accpted organizations have not been yet announces? |
| 16:14.06 | waldi | because you can't read a clock? |
| 16:14.18 | what_is_that | :) |
| 16:14.24 | what_is_that | 19:00 UTC |
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| 16:33.22 | kblin | hey carols |
| 16:33.26 | carols | hey kblin |
| 16:33.32 | carols | today's one of the big days :-) |
| 16:33.52 | kblin | yup :) |
| 16:33.55 | downey | serves pre-announcement tea |
| 16:33.56 | paultag | \o/ |
| 16:34.03 | |Kev| | Wasn't expecting you to be commenting on British politics! |
| 16:34.11 | |Kev| | Oh, right, GSoC :) |
| 16:34.35 | derdon | |Kev|: what did the non-informed people miss? |
| 16:34.46 | |Kev| | derdon: Thatcher died. |
| 16:35.23 | derdon | ah |
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| 16:42.09 | MatthewWilkes | |Kev|: Which of the three camps are you in? |
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| 16:42.13 | MatthewWilkes | IF I may ask |
| 16:42.56 | |Kev| | I'm further left than Thatcher was. That's about as far as one can safely say without making the Internet erupt. |
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| 16:43.19 | |Kev| | (I take no pleasure from her death, if that was the question) |
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| 16:43.35 | MatthewWilkes | |Kev|: I meant more: "Ding, dong", "I disagreed with her politics, but she's a human being" or "Iron Lady" |
| 16:43.47 | carols | hi MatthewWilkes and |Kev| :-) |
| 16:43.51 | MatthewWilkes | ding dong in the wizard sense, not the steven norris sense, that is |
| 16:43.52 | carols | serves some tea |
| 16:43.53 | MatthewWilkes | carols! |
| 16:43.56 | carols | here, have some tea. |
| 16:44.04 | carols | and let's talk about gsoc, yes? |
| 16:44.58 | MatthewWilkes | Indeed |
| 16:45.00 | MatthewWilkes | Sorry! |
| 16:45.03 | carols | cheers. |
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| 16:48.26 | Mrk_ | !learn accepted organizations as http://goo.gl/F7niy |
| 16:48.27 | gsocbot | Mrk_: "accepted organizations" is http://goo.gl/F7niy |
| 16:48.48 | Mrk_ | of course, it won't be up until 2 hrs and 13 minutes from now :D |
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| 17:04.55 | JordiGH | !next |
| 17:04.56 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "next" is April 8 19:00 UTC: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
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| 17:22.43 | wowi_ | hello |
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| 17:23.38 | carols | hello wowi_ |
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| 17:25.01 | carols | can we help you with something? |
| 17:25.05 | carols | or just saying hello? :-) |
| 17:25.09 | carols | serves some tea |
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| 17:25.41 | chetan | Didn't you serve cookies too, last time? |
| 17:25.49 | wowi_ | sorry |
| 17:25.51 | carols | i did |
| 17:25.53 | Arthur_D | phew - read through the accepted orgs list before I realized it was last year's |
| 17:25.53 | wowi_ | just saying hello |
| 17:25.57 | carols | serves some cookies |
| 17:26.03 | gevaerts | chetan: don't get too demanding! |
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| 17:26.23 | chetan | Hey Cookies last year = cookies this year too |
| 17:26.37 | gevaerts | Cookies are a gift, not a privilege :) |
| 17:27.06 | wowi_ | It's not today the publication of accepted mentoring organizations ? |
| 17:27.15 | gevaerts | wowi_: it is, at 19:00 UTC |
| 17:27.29 | wowi_ | gevaerts thx :-) |
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| 17:28.48 | stefanct | i cant remember... do accepted orgs get feedback too or rejected ones only? |
| 17:28.49 | wowi_ | hope for FreeBSD in accepted mentoring organizations |
| 17:29.41 | MatthewWilkes | stefanct: Only rejected |
| 17:30.04 | gevaerts | "You were accepted because your ideas list just wasn't bad enough" |
| 17:30.15 | stefanct | ;) |
| 17:30.26 | carols | stefanct: |
| 17:30.33 | carols | what sort of things would you want to know? |
| 17:30.42 | stefanct | there is always room for improvement :) |
| 17:31.02 | carols | well, i'm happy to provide feedback to whoever wants it, accepted or not. |
| 17:31.09 | scorche|sh | stefanct: generally, if you ask carols nicely, you can ask for feedback after the dust clears and she has a bit of room to breathe =) |
| 17:32.21 | stefanct | carols: do you prefer to handle such things in the normal moderated feedback session or separately? |
| 17:32.54 | carols | stefanct: um, well, the non-accepted orgs feedback session is generally 3-4 hours as it is. |
| 17:33.14 | carols | so, i'm happy to stay, but considering the fact that as an accepted org you can get an audience with me whenever you want... |
| 17:33.17 | carols | maybe just email me? |
| 17:33.26 | carols | then again, non-accepted orgs can just email me too. |
| 17:33.30 | carols | so whatever you like. |
| 17:34.27 | stefanct | ok, thank you |
| 17:34.30 | carols | yw. |
| 17:34.33 | meflin | attending the feedback session is quite informative even you where accepted IMO |
| 17:35.24 | stefanct | it is |
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| 17:36.13 | Mathnerd626 | "1 hour, 23 minutes remaining" |
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| 17:36.35 | Mathnerd626 | who makes up these seemingly-arbitrary times? |
| 17:36.38 | skoushik | can we propose a new project, which is not in the list?.. if so, does the approval depend on the mentoring organisation?, or on google? |
| 17:36.46 | chetan | When and where does the feedback session take place? |
| 17:37.24 | ansgar | skoushik: I'm sure most orgs are happy with students proposing new ideas. |
| 17:37.43 | gevaerts | Mathnerd626: gsoc times have been 19:00 UTC since time immemorial |
| 17:38.07 | David_Honeynet | skoushik: students can propose their own ideas to an org, and if the org likes it and can provide a mentor, should be possible |
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| 17:38.26 | skoushik | Oh okay. Thanks |
| 17:38.33 | Mathnerd626 | History schmistory; GSOC isn't that old |
| 17:38.34 | David_Honeynet | either way, students always apply to an org, not google (through melange, when student applications open on April 22nd) |
| 17:38.49 | gevaerts | skoushik: it's generally advised to talk to them before submitting an different idea |
| 17:39.15 | skoushik | Ok. Will do. Thanks |
| 17:39.19 | David_Honeynet | yeah. if you plan to submit your own idea (or even if you don't), orgs always appreciate early contact |
| 17:39.32 | gevaerts | Mathnerd626: also, 19:00 UTC is exactly midday at google HQ. That's not *that* arbitrary :) |
| 17:39.54 | MatthewWilkes | All time is arbitrary, man… |
| 17:40.10 | gevaerts | They even moved GMT by 20 feet a few centuries ago! |
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| 17:40.47 | chetan | Anyone? the feedback session? |
| 17:40.49 | Mathnerd626 | actually, I'm more interested in why the whole schedule got pushed forward a month... AFAICT last year the *student* deadline was around now |
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| 17:41.19 | carols | Mathnerd626: because people have been telling me since I joined the program that we need to change the timeline. |
| 17:41.34 | carols | so i changed it. |
| 17:41.47 | Mathnerd626 | yeah, I like the change, it makes it fit my schedule :-) |
| 17:41.52 | carols | now we make a different set of people unhappy :-) |
| 17:42.04 | gevaerts | Mathnerd626: so you're part of the reason :) |
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| 17:42.26 | Mathnerd626 | I'd just like a little "release notes" or something that gives the changes in one place |
| 17:43.19 | carols | Mathnerd626: the changes for this year? |
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| 17:43.33 | Mathnerd626 | yeah. |
| 17:43.35 | carols | sure, i can summarize. the mentors need to be over 18 this year and we changed the timeline. |
| 17:43.38 | carols | that's all. |
| 17:43.59 | Mathnerd626 | oh, ok then :-) |
| 17:44.07 | carols | :-) |
| 17:44.41 | David_Honeynet | carols: timeline seems to work better for european students, so thanks :) |
| 17:44.48 | carols | you're welcome, David_Honeynet. |
| 17:44.52 | carols | that's what people told me. |
| 17:45.01 | Mathnerd626 | I can only imagine where that "over 18" requirement came from... |
| 17:45.13 | carols | Mathnerd626: the lawyers. |
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| 17:45.45 | Mathnerd626 | so boring :p |
| 17:46.05 | carols | you're telling me. |
| 17:46.12 | Mathnerd626 | it's more fun if the requirements are derived through trial-and-error |
| 17:46.20 | carols | fun? |
| 17:46.22 | carols | for whom? |
| 17:46.36 | halfdan- | us |
| 17:46.40 | carols | ah, right. |
| 17:46.41 | gevaerts | Mathnerd626: they are! |
| 17:46.43 | halfdan- | ;) |
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| 17:47.46 | Mathnerd626 | well, if there's ever "A history of the GSOC", then the readers would no doubt enjoy hearing about the derivation process |
| 17:47.57 | gevaerts | Last year they tried without the 18+ requirement, lawyers object, so this year they try with it. We'll see if lawyers are happy this time :) |
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| 17:48.18 | gevaerts | Probably not. A happy lawyer can't exist :) |
| 17:48.26 | Mathnerd626 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code is OK but rather dry |
| 17:48.27 | carols | gevaerts: the problem is, even if the lawyers are happy with this change, they will just find something else to be unhappy about. |
| 17:48.29 | halfdan- | carols: how will the selected orgs be announced? will we just be able to see it in the dashboard or will there be a public list? |
| 17:48.34 | carols | Mathnerd626: why not fill it in? |
| 17:48.39 | carols | i can't since i run the program. |
| 17:48.48 | carols | halfdan-: a blog post and the list on melange. |
| 17:48.56 | halfdan- | kk thanks |
| 17:49.01 | carols | yw |
| 17:49.09 | |Kev| | Accompanied by Melange getting DoSd? |
| 17:49.13 | carols | oh, and for the people who actually applied they'll get an email of course. |
| 17:49.58 | skoushik | Will all selected participants get a t-shirt? ;-) |
| 17:50.08 | carols | skoushik: mentoring orgs? |
| 17:50.10 | chetan | carols: What about the feedback session? When does that happen? |
| 17:50.19 | skoushik | no.. the students |
| 17:50.25 | carols | chetan: it's on the gsoc calendar... |
| 17:50.43 | carols | skoushik: yes, all accepted students except those listed in the customs-restricted countries get t-shirts. |
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| 17:51.16 | chetan | never knew it was there |
| 17:51.22 | carols | :-) |
| 17:51.22 | skoushik | cool |
| 17:51.45 | carols | skoushik: actually, assuming that the student passes both their evaluations. |
| 17:51.54 | carols | students who drop out or fail don't get a t-shirt |
| 17:51.56 | sunu | carols: customs-restricted countries list ? |
| 17:52.06 | skoushik | ohh.. okay. |
| 17:52.06 | carols | sunu: yeah, listed in the FAQ. |
| 17:52.26 | sunu | ok. I think i missed that. |
| 17:52.39 | carols | sunu: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#7._Is_there_a_t-shirt_involved |
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| 17:54.33 | Mathnerd626 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.07 | Mathnerd626 | I wonder how old he is :-) |
| 17:55.13 | sunu | carols: Thanks. |
| 17:55.19 | carols | sunu: yw |
| 17:55.27 | sunu | India is not on the list \m/ |
| 17:55.28 | JordiGH | Instead of shirt, I would like a month supply of carols' tea selection. |
| 17:55.44 | carols | JordiGH: you can get 80% of it at adagio tea. |
| 17:55.58 | carols | <3s adagio |
| 17:56.00 | gevaerts | JordiGH: you really think carols is going to anyone get their hands on her tea? :) |
| 17:56.07 | carols | haha :-) |
| 17:56.16 | meflin | isn't the tea supposed to flow the OTHER way |
| 17:56.56 | carols | meflin: i think you might be the only one in this channel who gets that. |
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| 17:58.03 | Mathnerd626 | well, I think it's supposed to be carol -information> channel -tea> carol |
| 17:58.16 | carols | sounds about right. |
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| 17:58.54 | JordiGH | carols: I usually patron this place: http://camellia-sinensis.com/en/ |
| 17:59.03 | Mathnerd626 | I'm certain interesting parallels can be drawn between tea leaves and code submissions |
| 18:01.35 | Mathnerd626 | I usually look at Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=tea+store |
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| 18:03.01 | Mathnerd626 | if there are instruction manuals for "How to open a tea shop online" then it seems to be a rather popular activity... |
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| 18:03.46 | meflin | captea needs a real web store ( they do sell via email ) |
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| 18:05.36 | Mathnerd626 | well, we are in the internet age, it's probably most efficient to just track down the tea growers and send them an email :-) |
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| 18:06.00 | meflin | its a local tea shop |
| 18:06.33 | Mathnerd626 | so where do they obtain their tea? |
| 18:06.37 | downey | mmm tea |
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| 18:06.53 | JordiGH | Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer walking in to stores and smelling all the teas before buying any. |
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| 18:08.12 | meflin | many sources ... |
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| 18:09.04 | Irnuk_ | name Irnuk |
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| 18:10.27 | Mathnerd626 | "Tea is the most popular manufactured drink in the world in terms of consumption." <- Thank you Wikipedia |
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| 18:11.33 | downey | JordiGH: same here |
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| 18:16.49 | sunbiz | downey: just got some tea for myself as well... the indian version called Chai :P |
| 18:17.03 | downey | sunbiz: cheers! |
| 18:17.09 | sunbiz | cheers! |
| 18:17.21 | alkmim | A lot of talk about tea. Sounds good to have tea now :-) |
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| 18:18.17 | sunbiz | downey: correction... skol!! |
| 18:18.44 | chetan | Chai is actually a persian word |
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| 18:19.53 | Lennie | So many impatient people ^_^, the QPS is going up already |
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| 18:20.05 | sunbiz | chetan: wikipedia says that persian word came from the Mandarin word for tea 茶 chá |
| 18:20.37 | chetan | So definitely not the Indian version :P |
| 18:21.27 | ChrisOelmueller | Lennie: you should ask for a deadline extension :-) |
| 18:21.45 | Lennie | ChrisOelmueller, :0? |
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| 18:21.56 | Lennie | ChrisOelmueller, you mean an AppEngine deadline extension :P? |
| 18:22.11 | meflin | well only if you filed your TPS on the QPS |
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| 18:22.48 | ChrisOelmueller | heh, well, this is the only gsoc event where i haven't yet observed requests for extension |
| 18:22.51 | stultus | I studied at munnar, which is surrounded by india's highest tea gardens |
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| 18:27.17 | baba | Lennie: QPS ? |
| 18:27.25 | Lennie | baba, Queries Per Second :)? |
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| 18:27.41 | baba | sunbiz: in my language we called tea as cha :) |
| 18:27.45 | baba | Lennie: ok :) |
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| 18:28.29 | sunu | baba: which language ? |
| 18:28.42 | baba | sunu: Gujrati |
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| 18:29.10 | sunu | baba: ok |
| 18:29.23 | ansgar | Back a few years ago (IIRC 2008), the math department here had an old web server (dual P3) that was DDoSed by students trying to guess the name for the result page of an exam. I hope that won't happen with Melange ;) |
| 18:29.26 | stultus | baba: and we call it chaya in malayalam :) |
| 18:30.09 | baba | stultus: cool :) Over her Chaya is a name of a girl :) meaning shade. |
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| 18:31.16 | stultus | baba: we have that word too , but it is the second 'cha' , and for tea , its first 'cha' |
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| 18:31.37 | baba | stultus: :D |
| 18:31.55 | chetan | ansgar: Heh, similar incident a few years ago. Only the DDoS never happened because they guessed it right pretty soon :) |
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| 18:34.25 | pranjal710 | hi, when will the list of accepted mentoring organizations be published on google-melange? |
| 18:34.35 | Strangerke | pranjal710: 25 minutes |
| 18:34.36 | carols | pranjal710: 19:00 UTC |
| 18:34.53 | derek | pranjal710: there's a cute countdown on the page ;) |
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| 18:35.09 | pranjal710 | Thankyou |
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| 18:42.11 | carols | smiles and sips some tea |
| 18:42.44 | baba | now 15 min to go :D |
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| 18:43.42 | aghisla | adds some biscuits |
| 18:43.43 | carols | :-) |
| 18:43.44 | JordiGH | Well, I'm quite puzzled. |
| 18:43.55 | edsiper | is happy |
| 18:44.00 | sonney2k | already now :) |
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| 18:45.49 | kiddorails | just release them, already. :P |
| 18:45.56 | carols | kiddorails: i did :-) |
| 18:45.58 | ssaka | j/ #pcnet |
| 18:46.00 | sumitk | carols: ping |
| 18:46.02 | carols | already done. |
| 18:46.05 | carols | sumitk: pong |
| 18:46.10 | kiddorails | carols: still says "14 minutes remaining" |
| 18:46.12 | kiddorails | refreshes |
| 18:46.18 | carols | kiddorails: eh, i was too excited :-) |
| 18:46.20 | jenmylo | carols: question: filling in the org profile, it looks like it wants us to state how many proposals we want to accept, before there are any. is that just ambiguous wording, and really it's the old field of "how many slots would you like in an ideal world'? |
| 18:46.24 | sumitk | carols: hello |
| 18:46.26 | carols | kiddorails: my prerogative anyway. |
| 18:46.27 | meflin | released isn't the same as posted to the sight |
| 18:46.30 | sumitk | carols: PM please? |
| 18:46.34 | carols | jenmylo: yes. |
| 18:46.34 | meflin | things take time |
| 18:46.37 | carols | sumitk: sure |
| 18:46.39 | jenmylo | carols: thanks |
| 18:46.41 | carols | yw |
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| 18:46.52 | Nightrose | \o/ |
| 18:46.54 | kiddorails | carols: I'm more more excited! |
| 18:46.57 | Nightrose | thank you carols and team! :) |
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| 18:46.59 | carols | kiddorails: me too :-) |
| 18:47.04 | carols | Nightrose: you're welcome :-) |
| 18:47.08 | spectie | ^_^ |
| 18:47.11 | JordiGH | is quite surprised that this got rejected: http://wiki.octave.org/Summer_of_Code_Project_Ideas but this got accepted: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/SummerOfCode/Ideas2013 |
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| 18:47.43 | sonney2k | carols - I am failing to find 'my organizations' under https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 18:47.56 | sonney2k | isn't this under dashboard? |
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| 18:48.17 | carols | sonney2k: should be. there's also a link to your profile in the email too. are you the org admin? |
| 18:48.31 | kiddorails | 11 minutes |
| 18:48.44 | sashi | !next |
| 18:48.45 | gsocbot | sashi: "next" is April 8 19:00 UTC: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
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| 18:48.49 | carols | kiddorails: i don't think we need a count down, but thanks for being on top of it. |
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| 18:50.08 | sonney2k | carols, ahh thanks! I overlooked it in the email - but it is not (yet?) in the dashboard. Maybe after I finish the form |
| 18:50.14 | sonney2k | carols, thanks!! |
| 18:50.15 | carols | sonney2k: indeed. |
| 18:50.17 | carols | yw |
| 18:50.28 | aghisla | yay! thanks carols and all gsoc team! |
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| 18:50.33 | carols | yw :-) |
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| 18:51.27 | JordiGH | is surprised. |
| 18:51.40 | chetan | Is it out already? |
| 18:51.48 | JordiGH | chetan: Privately, yes. |
| 18:51.50 | carols | chetan: emails have been sent, yes |
| 18:51.55 | carols | but the list isn't public yet. |
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| 18:52.00 | carols | we're giving orgs time to make their homepages. |
| 18:52.10 | chetan | Let me ask our admin then |
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| 18:53.05 | idkwhatever | Privately? To whom? |
| 18:53.11 | downey | serves the next round of tea |
| 18:53.12 | gevaerts | idkwhatever: org admins |
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| 18:53.30 | badlogic1 | welp, rejected on our first try, better luck next time i guess :) |
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| 18:54.03 | manugupt1_ | Ya :) |
| 18:54.21 | scorche|sh | badlogic1: make sure to attend the meeting so that you will know what to improve for future years! |
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| 18:54.38 | idkwhatever | badlogic1: what org? |
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| 18:55.00 | jkridner|work | anxiously awaits the announcement |
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| 18:55.22 | chetan | carols: I was unable to find the schedule on gsoc calendar, when is it? |
| 18:55.23 | delroth | rejected on our first try as well :( |
| 18:55.32 | Lennie | Jee, Melange got accepted :) |
| 18:55.42 | jkridner|work | list already published? |
| 18:55.59 | bafta | carols: do you know, if it's possible to get a summary after the irc session on friday |
| 18:56.05 | stefanha | fears the day when Melange is rejected |
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| 18:56.35 | stefano-k | we rejected also :-( |
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| 18:57.03 | chetan | carols: Sorry, found it |
| 18:57.07 | paultag | Debian is very thankful and humbled to have got in again this year |
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| 18:57.44 | v0dro | just 5 mins more! |
| 18:57.44 | vp_ | Counting the last 3 minutes |
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| 18:58.04 | baba | paultag: list released ? |
| 18:58.08 | manugupt1_ | openSUSE got in :) |
| 18:58.11 | Inc | carols: ping |
| 18:58.12 | rihnapstor | 2 minutes more and go!! |
| 18:58.17 | ChipX86 | sadly, we didn't :( |
| 18:58.20 | chetan | Only privately |
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| 18:58.52 | baba | now the list is released :D :D |
| 18:58.53 | Strangerke | ScummVM is really grateful to be accepted this year again. Thanks a lot! |
| 18:58.54 | ChipX86 | first time in.. 5 years I think.. that we won't be part of GSoC |
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| 18:59.06 | umccullough | signs of the times :) |
| 18:59.14 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:59.16 | umccullough | sounds like Haiku didn't make it either |
| 18:59.40 | idkwhatever | xapian? |
| 18:59.41 | ahuillet | hello - carols : are you planning on doing a "feedback" session for rejected orgs? |
| 18:59.43 | halfdan- | where is the list? |
| 18:59.46 | carols | ahuillet: yep |
| 18:59.49 | carols | it's already scheduled. |
| 18:59.59 | vp_ | cool |
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| 19:00.13 | Lennie | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 |
| 19:00.19 | Lennie | It will populate over time :) |
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| 19:00.58 | chetan | Lennie: What do you mean over time? :) |
| 19:01.08 | idkwhatever | Well that countdown was anticlimactic. |
| 19:01.12 | snc | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 |
| 19:01.19 | snc | sorry about that, wrong chat window >_< |
| 19:01.20 | carols | chetan: as orgs create their profiles the list populates. |
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| 19:01.48 | manugupt1_ | carols: Can I ask a question regarding while filling up the org home page form |
| 19:01.53 | halfdan- | why do I only see 14 orgs on there? |
| 19:01.55 | chetan | carols: Oh I see, better bug my admin to check then |
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| 19:01.56 | carols | manugupt1_: sure |
| 19:02.01 | baba | i can only see 14 orgs..!! :D it still takes time to load... |
| 19:02.11 | Inc | carols: got a sec? |
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| 19:02.18 | carols | Inc: sure |
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| 19:02.31 | manugupt1_ | carols: Can we update the desired slots later.. once we know if the orgs that we have vouched for have got selected or not |
| 19:02.35 | rihnapstor | baba: same here, carols why so ? |
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| 19:02.48 | jekin | Waiting for OpenCV to get selected |
| 19:02.50 | carols | manugupt1_: sure |
| 19:02.53 | baba | rihnapstor: bcoz lots of guys like us are loading it..!! |
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| 19:02.57 | carols | rihnapstor: why so what? |
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| 19:03.02 | badlogic1 | idkwhatever: libgdx |
| 19:03.07 | manugupt1_ | carols: thanks :) |
| 19:03.11 | baba | rihnapstor: just wait for some time :) |
| 19:03.22 | ahuillet | oh sorry, I had not read the actual message body. :) good luck to every mentor for the great amount of work waiting for you! |
| 19:03.23 | manugupt1_ | carols: thanks a lot again for giving us a chance for the 4th time :) |
| 19:03.29 | baba | carols: thanks to you and gsoc team :D :D kudos..!! :) |
| 19:03.30 | carols | manugupt1_: yw :-) |
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| 19:03.39 | baba | manugupt1_: which org ? |
| 19:03.48 | manugupt1_ | baba: openSUSE |
| 19:03.55 | baba | manugupt1_: cool :D |
| 19:04.12 | bahaa | 15 orgs appeared so far? |
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| 19:04.28 | dberkholz | yeah, only seems to be 15 so far |
| 19:04.34 | Girish_ | 16 it shows now |
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| 19:04.40 | sashi | i could see only 15 orgs |
| 19:04.46 | idkwhatever | badlogic1: Darn. Honestly wish that was in. |
| 19:04.52 | examon | yes 16 |
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| 19:04.57 | dberkholz | let's all reload as fast as we possibly can to make sure it never finishes. |
| 19:04.57 | baba | now 17 :P |
| 19:04.58 | bbc | how many orgs accepted? |
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| 19:05.03 | sonney2k | sashi, et al - orgs first have to fill in some details before they appear on that page! |
| 19:05.07 | bahaa | ye 16 |
| 19:05.10 | astrofrog | Someone should write a bot to go *drumroll*.... <org> is selected! |
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| 19:05.29 | StarLight | i see 14 :( |
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| 19:05.40 | sonney2k | carols, *after* I filled out the form it is in the dashboard - thanks again. |
| 19:05.41 | scorche|sh | astrofrog: ...no, they really shouldnt... |
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| 19:05.44 | carols | serves some tea and coffee. |
| 19:05.45 | saurabhsood91 | total 175 orgs i think |
| 19:05.55 | badlogic1 | idkwhatever: well, scummvm is in, so that's one org to apply for game dev crazy students :) |
| 19:05.56 | system64 | I see only 16 :-/ |
| 19:05.58 | examon | saurabhsood91: yes, it's on the mainpage https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013 |
| 19:05.59 | JordiGH | Acceptance in past years is a huge factor on getting accepted again, isn't it? |
| 19:06.27 | MichaelC | !next |
| 19:06.28 | gsocbot | MichaelC: "next" is April 8 19:00 UTC: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
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| 19:06.52 | bbc | JordiGH: i guess that it can also depend on how well it went in past years |
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| 19:07.05 | MichaelC | gsocbot has his tenses confused |
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| 19:07.18 | halfdan- | sonney2k: where did you find the form? |
| 19:07.31 | rgirish28 | 17 now |
| 19:07.33 | gevaerts | MichaelC: it doesn't say a year :) |
| 19:07.38 | marinaz | carols: GNOME and me personally are super excited for another GSoC year! thank you :)! |
| 19:07.40 | Inc | only 16 acccepted organization? |
| 19:07.41 | scuttlemonkey | will the irc meeting of rejected review be captured/logged somewhere? I'll be on a plane for it I think |
| 19:07.42 | stultus | yay !! we got selected |
| 19:07.43 | stultus | :) |
| 19:07.45 | Inc | or am I reading it wrong? |
| 19:07.49 | yogev_ezra | is sad panda :-( |
| 19:07.51 | carols | marinaz: yw! |
| 19:07.57 | ChipX86 | marinaz: congrats :) |
| 19:08.04 | carols | scuttlemonkey: yes, it's logged. just like this channel always is. |
| 19:08.07 | sonney2k | halfdan-, in the email |
| 19:08.07 | idkwhatever | badlogic1: Thanks for letting me know :) |
| 19:08.11 | marinaz | ChipX86: thanks:) |
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| 19:08.21 | sonney2k | halfdan-, there is a link in there (that I overlooked...) |
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| 19:08.39 | scuttlemonkey | pretty bummed we didn't make the cut. Defintiely curious to see what the criteria were. |
| 19:08.41 | halfdan- | carols: are there emails for accepted _and_ rejected orgs? |
| 19:08.42 | gevaerts | Inc: accepted orgs have to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
| 19:08.46 | baba | it seems it will take like about an hour or so to get the complete list.. |
| 19:08.48 | Inc | ohhh |
| 19:08.53 | dark-al | why GStreamer not accepted? (I'm just student, not org admin):( |
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| 19:09.01 | carols | halfdan-: not for accepted orgs. if you want to know why we accepted you you'll need to email me. |
| 19:09.05 | baba | stultus: which org ? |
| 19:09.10 | phillipuniverse1 | @scuttelmonkey I agree |
| 19:09.12 | [paladin] | I'm not seeing all 177... only 17 |
| 19:09.13 | gevaerts | baba: forget it. Several days, if previous years are any indication :) |
| 19:09.15 | carols | dark-al: a good question to ask in the feedback session. |
| 19:09.17 | [paladin] | ? |
| 19:09.26 | scorche|sh | dark-al: ask them after the feedback session |
| 19:09.26 | halfdan- | carols: should I as backup admin also receive an email? |
| 19:09.34 | carols | halfdan-: yes |
| 19:09.35 | baba | gevaerts: thats not good than.. |
| 19:09.37 | prajjwol | [paladin]: same here what's up with the system |
| 19:09.37 | halfdan- | not sure if we're accepted or not |
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| 19:09.43 | GS2013 | I only see 18 accepted organizations. Is it a glitch carols? |
| 19:09.49 | carols | GS2013: no glitch. |
| 19:09.56 | carols | it's up to the orgs to create their homepages. |
| 19:09.58 | baba | same here only 18 listed. |
| 19:09.59 | kiddorails | wait for orgs to create homepages |
| 19:10.00 | carols | go bother them to do so :-) |
| 19:10.06 | kiddorails | ^+1 |
| 19:10.07 | MichaelC | carols: you should add a notice or something. Everyone keeps asking the same question |
| 19:10.11 | GS2013 | Only 18 organizations accepted this year then Carol? Strange.. |
| 19:10.12 | gevaerts | !learn notall Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
| 19:10.12 | gsocbot | gevaerts: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 19:10.14 | Inc | GS2013: look at last years mostly the same projects |
| 19:10.15 | carols | MichaelC: i don't mind :-) |
| 19:10.21 | carols | i get asked the same questions all year. |
| 19:10.24 | carols | i can answer this one too. |
| 19:10.28 | gevaerts | !notall | GS2013 |
| 19:10.32 | bbc | MichaelC: you could turn that into a gsoc project idea :) |
| 19:10.36 | gevaerts | !learn notall as Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
| 19:10.37 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
| 19:10.39 | gevaerts | !notall | GS2013 |
| 19:10.39 | gsocbot | GS2013: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
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| 19:11.19 | faishal | !wordpress | GS2013 |
| 19:11.24 | stultus | baba: swathanthra malayalam computing , - http://smc.org.in |
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| 19:11.47 | baba | stultus: cool congrats :) |
| 19:12.07 | halfdan- | Rejected :( |
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| 19:12.13 | ungureanuvladvic | !ffmpeg | GS013 |
| 19:12.14 | gsocbot | ungureanuvladvic: Error: No such user. |
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| 19:12.24 | buffyg | illumos is excited to be participating in GSoC again this year. We'll be updating our profile shortly so that we appear in the list. |
| 19:12.24 | Crofton|work | I fear the gnuradio contact is afk atm :( |
| 19:12.26 | halfdan- | Now I'm a sad panda :( |
| 19:12.41 | rgirish28 | looks like we will have to wait a while for the whole list to populate |
| 19:12.42 | Crofton|work | halfdan-, it is very competetive |
| 19:12.54 | ungureanuvladvic | any idea if FFmpeg is accepted ? |
| 19:13.06 | carols | ungureanuvladvic: have you asked them? |
| 19:13.07 | sunbiz | thanks guys... DHIS2 - http://dhis2.org (HISP) got in!! excited!! |
| 19:13.08 | phillipuniverse1 | halfdan: what does your ideas page look like? |
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| 19:13.30 | phillipuniverse1 | we got rejected as well; our ideas page is at https://github.com/BroadleafCommerce/BroadleafCommerce/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2013 |
| 19:13.38 | halfdan- | phillipuniverse1: https://github.com/piwik/piwik/wiki/GSoC-2013 |
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| 19:14.01 | bobbyaldol | any idea if KDE is accepted ? |
| 19:14.09 | carols | bobbyaldol: have you asked them? |
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| 19:14.16 | yashness | yes.. kde accepted :D |
| 19:14.22 | akshay_r | :D |
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| 19:14.26 | ungureanuvladvic | @carols yeah...they were not accepted |
| 19:14.29 | yashness | #kdesoc |
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| 19:14.35 | carols | ungureanuvladvic: there's your answer :-) |
| 19:14.41 | yashness | what about Mozilla ? Any IDea ? |
| 19:14.47 | carols | yashness: have you asked them? |
| 19:14.48 | phillipuniverse1 | I wonder if it's because of the lack of a detailed student proposal section |
| 19:14.57 | phillipuniverse1 | like "students, fill out x y z in your application" |
| 19:15.05 | phillipuniverse1 | I had planned on adding that later but did not in the original ideas list |
| 19:15.15 | carols | phillipuniverse1: something to speculate on in the irc feedback meeting, no? |
| 19:15.22 | phillipuniverse1 | indeed :) |
| 19:15.24 | rihnapstor | carols: will gsoc accept all project ideas if that particular org is selected ? |
| 19:15.27 | carols | great :-) |
| 19:15.30 | akshay_r | yashness: i cant see it on site for kde ? |
| 19:15.42 | carols | rihnapstor: it's up to the org what projects they accept. |
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| 19:15.52 | yashness | on #kdesoc, |
| 19:15.58 | yashness | they announced |
| 19:16.04 | akshay_r | ok |
| 19:16.07 | akshay_r | thats really great |
| 19:16.17 | yashness | :D congo !!! kde |
| 19:16.29 | akshay_r | yashness: that channel doesnt have anyone :/ |
| 19:16.40 | dberkholz | there we go, org page up for gentoo |
| 19:16.41 | carols | let's take the kde discussion to their channel, yes? :-) |
| 19:16.42 | carols | thanks |
| 19:16.44 | yashness | #kde-soc |
| 19:16.56 | Strangerke | carols: Is there somewhere a list of suggested tags we can use for the org profile? |
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| 19:17.02 | akshay_r | yashness: i m there on it ! |
| 19:17.06 | carols | Strangerke: nope. you'll just have to make it up. |
| 19:17.09 | carols | be creative :-) |
| 19:17.13 | Strangerke | ok. Thanks |
| 19:17.21 | carols | akshay_r and yashness: that's enough, thanks. |
| 19:17.30 | dberkholz | thanks again carols, the opportunity is much appreciated by all of us at gentoo |
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| 19:17.35 | gevaerts | Strangerke: have a look at previous years for inspiration |
| 19:17.42 | carols | dberkholz: you're welcome. |
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| 19:18.10 | sunbiz | thanks carols |
| 19:18.19 | carols | yw sunbiz |
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| 19:18.41 | anivar | happy to sww SMc is selected . Thanks carols and google |
| 19:18.46 | carols | yw |
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| 19:19.30 | carols | serves some more coffee and tea |
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| 19:19.54 | akifkhan | i am not getting the whole list populated |
| 19:20.01 | akifkhan | some problem there |
| 19:20.10 | carols | AkifKhan: it's up to the orgs to fill in their homepages. |
| 19:20.21 | carols | the list only populates with orgs that have filled in their profiles. |
| 19:20.21 | yashness | ... yet loadin g!! |
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| 19:20.28 | akifkhan | ok |
| 19:20.30 | akifkhan | thanks |
| 19:20.32 | wizAmit | carol: are u planning a hangout on gsoc13?? |
| 19:20.33 | cruxr | @carols : Till when can we expect to get the complete list of accepted orgs? |
| 19:20.45 | gevaerts | !notall | cruxr |
| 19:20.45 | gsocbot | cruxr: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
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| 19:20.47 | halfdan- | carols: when all orgs have filled in their stuff |
| 19:20.53 | carols | cruxr: when do you think all the orgs will have filled in their profiles? |
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| 19:21.00 | carols | i don't have a crystal ball on me, unfortunately. |
| 19:21.00 | kblin | halfdan-: I think carols knows that ;) |
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| 19:21.10 | halfdan- | kblin: ups ;) |
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| 19:21.22 | umccullough | are they technically not accepted until they fill out a profile? |
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| 19:21.29 | carols | umccullough: nope. |
| 19:21.33 | carols | they're accepted or rejected. |
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| 19:21.38 | kblin | halfdan-: gnu readline needs "mind completion" |
| 19:21.40 | carols | whether they've filled in a profile or not. |
| 19:21.44 | nemo | carols: so. obv we can find out why in 11 days. And, you know, totally understandable. Lots of projects you are trying to support, many offering something more useful than us. |
| 19:21.50 | halfdan- | kblin: certainly |
| 19:21.56 | nemo | carols: but. I was wondering if there was a list of things you consider somewhere, for us to peruse |
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| 19:22.10 | nemo | as we try to come to terms w/ rejection and all that |
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| 19:22.13 | halfdan- | kblin: maybe some student is willing to work on that ;) |
| 19:22.30 | carols | nemo: i would recommend emailing me, reading the whole mentor manual and coming to the irc meeting. |
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| 19:22.42 | halfdan- | carols: address? |
| 19:22.56 | carols | halfdan-: carols@google.com |
| 19:22.57 | nemo | oh, I'll try to come by the meeting for sure |
| 19:23.03 | nemo | was just being impatient |
| 19:23.11 | carols | indeed. |
| 19:23.15 | carols | sips some tea |
| 19:23.17 | carols | have some tea. |
| 19:23.24 | nemo | actually, as it happens... |
| 19:23.36 | nemo | just lipton packet. had had enough coffee this morning. |
| 19:23.41 | nemo | sips and sighs |
| 19:23.54 | meflin | I am out of chocolate and its about to blizzard |
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| 19:24.12 | jenmylo | carols: can you remind me which channel to pop into if i have a question/issue filling in the org profile in melange? think i'm hitting a bug |
| 19:24.15 | halfdan- | carols: you got mail ;) |
| 19:24.20 | carols | jenmylo: #melange |
| 19:24.22 | kblin | !this cookie | meflin |
| 19:24.22 | gsocbot | meflin: "this cookie" is for you |
| 19:24.26 | jenmylo | carols: thanks |
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| 19:24.33 | carols | yw |
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| 19:24.56 | phillipuniverse1 | !numapps |
| 19:24.57 | gsocbot | phillipuniverse1: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 19:24.59 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Google Summer of Code 2013 mentoring organizations have been announced! Visit http://goo.gl/yxeB0 to see the list of participating organizations for this year. |
| 19:25.22 | nemo | phillipuniverse1: ah. so due to increased applications, our odds would just keep going down, presumably |
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| 19:25.36 | badlogic1 | carols: for the rejected orgs review on the 19th, do we have to reserve a time slot or should we just turn up between 9-11 and wait? |
| 19:25.40 | phillipuniverse1 | that's my thinking, yeah |
| 19:25.49 | carols | badlogic1: just show up and get queued when you get here. |
| 19:25.53 | nemo | phillipuniverse1: was joking in IRC that it was 'cause the google bot caught too many references to small children on our IRC channel and decided we needed a break this summer :) |
| 19:25.56 | carols | kblin can explain the queueing if you need it |
| 19:25.57 | phillipuniverse1 | although the disclaimer is that it's not based on odds it's all based on quality of the applications |
| 19:26.03 | stultus | gives another cup of tea to carols :) |
| 19:26.04 | badlogic1 | carols: understood, ty |
| 19:26.11 | carols | thanks stultus |
| 19:26.12 | phillipuniverse1 | nemo: hahahaha |
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| 19:26.21 | umccullough | how many orgs applied this year? |
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| 19:26.31 | carols | umccullough: did you read the blog post? |
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| 19:26.34 | nemo | phillipuniverse1: well. I don't think our application changed much from last year or the year before. but. maybe it was never very high quality |
| 19:26.37 | umccullough | goes to read it |
| 19:26.42 | nemo | phillipuniverse1: and we were just barely squeaking by. |
| 19:26.46 | badlogic1 | nemo: what org? |
| 19:26.48 | carols | wonders why we write anything down |
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| 19:27.16 | umccullough | carols, to be fair, it wasn't up when i checked last - but that was probably 20 mins ago :P |
| 19:27.33 | carols | :-) |
| 19:27.36 | nemo | carols: new google open source blog doesn't work in w3m like old GSoC blog did |
| 19:27.41 | umccullough | and teh blog feed on melange doesn't show it... |
| 19:27.49 | nemo | carols: sooo. no reading it until I get home. also. boo :-p |
| 19:27.51 | carols | nemo: i'm sorry to hear that. not my department, unfortunately |
| 19:28.00 | j4ke | More info about Google Open Source Programs Office ? |
| 19:28.03 | nemo | sure, sure. just annoying trend w/ google blogs :-p |
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| 19:28.07 | carols | j4ke: what would you like to know? |
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| 19:28.40 | kblin | gets carol some more chocolate |
| 19:28.42 | saurabhsood91 | carols: ping |
| 19:28.47 | carols | saurabhsood91: pong |
| 19:28.54 | j4ke | carols: what this project consist in ? |
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| 19:29.14 | kblin | Lennie: you better get that chocoloate counter going :) |
| 19:29.18 | carols | j4ke: it's up to you. it's only for research-based open source projects that are mentored by university advisors. are you doing that? |
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| 19:29.37 | saurabhsood91 | carols: facing a problem while trying to access the admin page for our org. co-admin created the page and now I cant access it. I keep on getting 'you need to be an administrator' to edit the page |
| 19:29.51 | carols | saurabhsood91: #melange |
| 19:29.54 | carols | not my department. |
| 19:30.04 | saurabhsood91 | carols: sure. thanks :) |
| 19:30.08 | carols | yw :-) |
| 19:30.16 | idkwhatever | Will the slots per org be released publicly? |
| 19:30.31 | carols | my job is basically to serve tea and point people to documentation |
| 19:30.31 | carols | idkwhatever: no |
| 19:30.36 | dfighter | and to herd cats |
| 19:30.41 | dfighter | :P |
| 19:30.48 | carols | only the orgs have the choice if they want to release that |
| 19:30.59 | Silox| | Hello there. I'm the chairman of Zeus WPI, a student club at Ghent University for IT and computer science. We're holding an evening to inform and excite them about the GSOC. We're still looking for mentoring organisations to share experiences and talk about their projects at the evening. Are there any mentors (from near Belgium, Ghent) interested in that? |
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| 19:31.16 | carols | Silox|: have you asked this on the meet ups list? |
| 19:31.33 | Silox| | No, no I haven't. |
| 19:31.38 | carols | that would be a great place for that. |
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| 19:31.59 | idkwhatever | Do orgs generally disclose that info? |
| 19:32.00 | GS2013 | the accepted organizations list has increased from 17 to 48, good! |
| 19:32.05 | carols | idkwhatever: it's up to them. |
| 19:32.06 | idkwhatever | slots i.e. |
| 19:32.10 | lasconic | Silox|: definitely, contact us on #musescore |
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| 19:32.44 | j4ke | carols: thanks a lot, i don't doing that ;) |
| 19:32.58 | carols | j4ke: then try another of the 177 orgs :-) |
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| 19:33.16 | j4ke | carols: sure i will ;-) |
| 19:33.21 | carols | great :-) |
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| 19:33.58 | brlcad | carols: on behalf of our org and others, thank you (again) for the opportunity |
| 19:34.05 | carols | brlcad: you're welcome. |
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| 19:35.24 | Adam__ | Hey everyone, just wondering if there might be an issue with the org list. |
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| 19:35.33 | Adam__ | The homepage says there are ~170 orgs |
| 19:35.38 | Adam__ | but the list I see only ahs about 50 |
| 19:35.42 | Adam__ | *has |
| 19:35.46 | carols | Adam__: nope, no issue. |
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| 19:35.53 | carols | the list populates as orgs create their homepages. |
| 19:35.55 | Arkanath | Adam__: Its getting loaded i think |
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| 19:36.10 | Arkanath | Adam__: Its gradually increasing .. :) |
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| 19:36.33 | chetan | arrgghh damn admin is away |
| 19:36.35 | Adam__ | Ah got it |
| 19:36.37 | Adam__ | thank you both |
| 19:36.41 | carols | yw |
| 19:36.53 | carols | i even included that information in the emails that the orgs got sent this year. |
| 19:36.58 | carols | i don't think it mattered though. |
| 19:36.59 | JordiGH | How do tags work? Is it a comma-separated list? |
| 19:37.13 | carols | JordiGH: yes. |
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| 19:37.33 | gevaerts | JordiGH: IIRC it's just one big text field that the "search" thing works on, so any separator will work |
| 19:38.06 | Crofton|work | rofl |
| 19:38.09 | Crofton|work | awesome! |
| 19:38.10 | GS2013 | Adam__: all the accepted organizations won't show up immediately, it was 17 when I first saw it and now it's 51 after refreshing the page. |
| 19:38.16 | Crofton|work | I got the email |
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| 19:39.04 | xyzabc | no kde this time? |
| 19:39.09 | GS2013 | it's good to see that WordPress got accepted this year |
| 19:39.42 | chetan | xyzabc: That's impossible :P I don't think they have created their profile yet |
| 19:40.27 | allman | It's the middle of the night in Europe and some people do sleep at night ;-) |
| 19:40.27 | kblin | !patience |
| 19:40.27 | gsocbot | kblin: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 19:40.41 | allman | Well - not the middle - dinnertime. |
| 19:40.42 | xyzabc | chetan: when they are going to do it then? |
| 19:40.46 | Silox| | Naah allman, dinnertime indeed :P |
| 19:40.48 | kblin | allman: not quite middle of the night, but dinner time |
| 19:40.50 | nemo | useful? how about fun? |
| 19:40.59 | chetan | xyzabc: No clue |
| 19:41.00 | kblin | allman: oh, beat me to it :) |
| 19:41.07 | MichaelC | !numapps |
| 19:41.07 | gsocbot | MichaelC: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 19:41.20 | allman | Eating when one could be coding?!? The horror .. ;-P |
| 19:41.21 | kblin | nemo: I think fun is useful |
| 19:41.24 | allman | :) |
| 19:41.29 | MichaelC | carols: so we have less orgs than last year? |
| 19:41.36 | carols | MichaelC: yes, by 3. |
| 19:41.47 | xyzabc | chetan: last time kde and no gnome |
| 19:41.47 | JordiGH | What's the contact info for the org? Legally, we're under Software Conservacy. Should that be the contact info? |
| 19:41.48 | xyzabc | chetan: |
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| 19:42.10 | xyzabc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.26 | carols | JordiGH: your physical address should be wherever you can receive physical items. |
| 19:42.36 | GS2013 | carols last year was 179 and this year it looks like there are 180. |
| 19:42.40 | nemo | starts hunting for Umbrella Corporation. GSoC version |
| 19:42.47 | carols | GS2013: last year was 180 and this year is 177. |
| 19:42.48 | nemo | hopefully low zombie ratio |
| 19:42.53 | JordiGH | I can receive items or the org can receive items? I'm sure bkuhn would be happy to handle any sort of thing that Mercurial needs to know about. |
| 19:43.03 | carols | JordiGH: whatever works. |
| 19:43.06 | nemo | seriously. anyone know of any orgs looking/willing to accept subs? |
| 19:43.09 | GS2013 | carols: oops, I was looking at 2012 page. |
| 19:43.26 | kblin | JordiGH: I've put in the SFC's address for samba |
| 19:43.33 | faishal | !buddypress |
| 19:43.53 | kblin | nemo: so what's your stick? |
| 19:44.03 | alkmim | Hey guys. I can't see Debian on the list of accepted organizations. Is there a mistak? |
| 19:44.05 | sonney2k | carols, we have an issue with a former gsoc student (now org admin) not being able to access the organization form - username is sergey_lisitsyn , url https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/organization/google/gsoc2013/shogun - but he can see the application form of our organization |
| 19:44.07 | JordiGH | kblin: High-five, SFC bro. |
| 19:44.15 | nemo | kblin: schtick? |
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| 19:44.19 | carols | sonney2k: not my department. try #melange. |
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| 19:44.39 | sonney2k | carols, thx doing |
| 19:44.40 | kesha | How many total organizations can you people see ? I have 57 on my screen.. |
| 19:44.50 | carols | kesha: looks like about 57, yeah. |
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| 19:45.17 | evalica1 | i have 179 |
| 19:45.26 | |Kev| | evalica1: Wrong year. |
| 19:45.35 | carols | evalica1: i'm surprised to hear that. we only accepted 177 this year. |
| 19:45.39 | evalica1 | :) true - thanks |
| 19:45.44 | evalica1 | sorry |
| 19:45.49 | carols | no worries. |
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| 19:46.55 | nemo | kblin: that is to say... huh? |
| 19:47.26 | jkridner|work | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/beagle !!!! :-) |
| 19:47.45 | Guest39903 | hey buddy i'm new to this irc thing, can u help me |
| 19:48.00 | carols | Guest39903: sure, how can we help? |
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| 19:48.29 | Guest39903 | at first how to use this |
| 19:48.39 | Guest39903 | i men is it as simpler as it seems? |
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| 19:49.03 | carols | Guest39903: yep, pretty darn simple. |
| 19:49.08 | kblin | nemo: what does your org do? |
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| 19:49.39 | Guest39903 | i've not decided about any org? |
| 19:49.41 | kblin | jkridner|work: beagle got in again? great :) |
| 19:49.53 | Guest39903 | i'm a codecommitter |
| 19:49.54 | jkridner|work | woo hoo! :) |
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| 19:50.19 | kblin | Guest39903: pick a project you already use :) |
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| 19:50.42 | meflin | a great weight off my shoulders Systers is in |
| 19:50.44 | nemo | kblin: ah. so. did mean schtick ;) |
| 19:50.49 | nemo | kblin: http://hedgewars.org |
| 19:51.02 | jkridner|work | kblin: I didn't realize I was posting in here rather than #beagle *blush* |
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| 19:51.15 | JordiGH | Can we do the #desired slots later? |
| 19:51.16 | nemo | kblin: FOSS game. were excited about AI work (had an awesome female coder who'd contributed a lot in last month while waiting) |
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| 19:51.40 | nemo | kblin: aaand were hoping to get the HTML5 port properly integrated and humming along. For chromeos and firefoxos. |
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| 19:52.06 | nemo | kblin: I'm kinda hoping she sticks around, although w/ her skills, probably other projects are interested too. |
| 19:52.09 | kblin | JordiGH: obviously :) |
| 19:52.11 | alkmim | Hi. I'm trying to see the list of accepted organizations, but i can just see few of them (aroundf 60 - 70). What should I do? |
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| 19:52.43 | kblin | nemo: so, how many mentors do you people have? |
| 19:52.45 | nemo | kblin: after being pointed at AI, came back <24h w/ a fix for drill rocket that made it pretty evil at drowning |
| 19:52.51 | roccivic_ | alkmim: wait? |
| 19:52.57 | idkwhatever | carol: maybe you should change the status; letting everyone know it's gonna take time for the list to populate? |
| 19:53.02 | Noxwizard | The email that goes out to org admins for new connections doesn't actually provide the URL you're supposed to visit. The wording is a bit odd too, it almost sounds like the message should be CC'd to me and not directed at me. |
| 19:53.12 | nemo | kblin: erm. well. frankly, would be happy w/ 2 slots. which would give us basically 2 or 3 mentors per student :) |
| 19:54.02 | Lennie | Noxwizard, known issue |
| 19:54.07 | Lennie | Noxwizard, to be fixed soon :) |
| 19:54.13 | Noxwizard | Alright, great. |
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| 19:54.58 | kblin | nemo: I'll have to chat with my co-admin, but we might be able to make that work. we already umbrella for some other projects |
| 19:55.07 | allman | idkwhatever: Carol stepped out to a meeting and will be back in about an hour.. |
| 19:55.15 | kblin | no promises yet, though |
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| 19:55.45 | sttaylor | JordiGH: You can put a number of desired slots down now and can change it later (I believe until April 22nd) |
| 19:55.57 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Google Summer of Code 2013 mentoring organizations have been announced! Visit http://goo.gl/yxeB0 to see the list of participating organizations for this year (once they fill out their profile). |
| 19:56.09 | kblin | JordiGH: I just ignored it for now |
| 19:56.23 | nemo | kblin: oh neat. |
| 19:56.28 | nemo | kblin: that would be pretty awesome if you could |
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| 19:56.34 | nemo | I'll mention it to the others, should raise morale |
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| 19:56.53 | kblin | nemo: you might also want to talk with some of the other gaming projects |
| 19:57.08 | nemo | kblin: hm. just any gaming project? |
| 19:57.12 | nemo | ooh |
| 19:57.19 | kblin | it's worth a shot :) |
| 19:57.23 | nemo | maybe the wesnoth guys. they were pretty nice last couple of years |
| 19:57.27 | nemo | oh wait |
| 19:57.31 | nemo | are you wesnoth? :) |
| 19:57.34 | nemo | I keep losing track :-p |
| 19:57.36 | kblin | nope |
| 19:57.39 | kblin | worldforge |
| 19:57.42 | nemo | ah-hah |
| 19:57.55 | kblin | Ivanovic is one of the wesnoth people |
| 19:57.58 | nemo | yeah. ok. I remember you bringing it up. sorry. I fail at names w/o google |
| 19:58.54 | Silox| | Where can I find the list of meetups? On meetup.com? |
| 19:59.02 | Silox| | /gsoc/? |
| 19:59.08 | alkmim | roccivic: Wait what? I didn't understand you, sorry. The page has already finished to download. And just few of them appears |
| 19:59.25 | dhaun | Silox|: there's a Google Group for that |
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| 20:00.38 | ojwb | alkmim: the list only shows orgs that have gone and filled in their profile |
| 20:00.49 | ojwb | so if you come back to it in a few hours, it'll be more complete |
| 20:00.59 | dhaun | Silox|: google-soc-meetups, https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/google-soc-meetups |
| 20:01.22 | kblin | !notall | alkmim |
| 20:01.23 | gsocbot | alkmim: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
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| 20:01.49 | Silox| | Thank you, dhaun :)Ã |
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| 20:02.16 | Lennie | it seems like there will be 177 of them :) |
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| 20:02.45 | kiddorails | !notall berkman |
| 20:02.54 | kiddorails | !notall | berkman |
| 20:02.55 | gsocbot | kiddorails: Error: No such user. |
| 20:03.08 | kblin | kiddorails: oh.. berkman... |
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| 20:03.23 | kiddorails | kblin: :( |
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| 20:05.23 | gevaerts | !botabuse | kiddorails |
| 20:05.23 | gsocbot | kiddorails: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
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| 20:06.59 | dberkholz | weird. i had a mentor apply but my only two choices are to withdraw or reject. what about accept? |
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| 20:07.34 | kblin | dberkholz: wearing the gentoo hat again? |
| 20:07.43 | meflin | probably to early? |
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| 20:08.00 | Hamish_B | dberkholz: are you the primary admin or the co-admin? |
| 20:08.07 | dberkholz | Hamish_B: primary |
| 20:08.12 | dberkholz | kblin: yep |
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| 20:08.17 | Hamish_B | ok, I guess just wait then |
| 20:08.21 | Hamish_B | shrug |
| 20:08.24 | Hamish_B | (same here) |
| 20:08.25 | meflin | dberkholz: also congrats |
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| 20:08.37 | dberkholz | thank you sir |
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| 20:09.18 | alkmim | ojwb: Got it! Thanks for the explanation guys. |
| 20:09.25 | Nightrose | waves @ dberkholz and kblin |
| 20:09.30 | xyzabc | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/kde |
| 20:09.56 | allman | dberkholz: You can ask on the Melange list, or you could look in the brand new Melange manual :) |
| 20:10.05 | allman | I'll post the URL in a sec. |
| 20:10.32 | gevaerts | Wait, a *manual*? gsoc is all grown up now! |
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| 20:10.52 | Lennie | gevaerts, almost. The new invite system isn't in the manual yet :P |
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| 20:11.00 | allman | pol - I wouldn't go quite that far :) |
| 20:11.10 | allman | "lol" |
| 20:11.51 | allman | Here it is - http://flossmanuals.net/melange/ Please let us know what you think. |
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| 20:12.46 | gavinatkinson | happy with https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/freebsd |
| 20:12.50 | dberkholz | allman: looks great but still doesn't appear to answer my (admittedly highly specific) question |
| 20:13.07 | dberkholz | allman: looking under http://en.flossmanuals.net/melange/org-application-period/ "How do I accept someone as a Mentor" |
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| 20:13.52 | David_Honeynet | carols / allman: many thanks for accepting us again this year. Honeynet Project a very happy bunch of FLOSSers today (https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/honeynet) :-) |
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| 20:14.58 | dberkholz | looks slightly out of date w/ the current dashboard appearance .. i'm seeing "Connections for my organizations" rather than "Mentor request list" |
| 20:15.07 | kblin | Nightrose: good evening :) |
| 20:15.16 | allman | dberkholz: what? Checking - back in a few. |
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| 20:17.45 | JordiGH | marinaz: Well, Octave didn't make the cut again, but Mercurial did. I saw some threads about OPW in the Debian-Women list... did Debian join OPW with money? I'd like to join, but I'm pretty sure Mercurial has no money to contribute towards OPW. |
| 20:18.41 | marinaz | JordiGH: sorry about not getting into GSoC :( Debian joined OPW with money; we ask everyone to join with money for at least one intern |
| 20:18.49 | xyzabc | !numapps |
| 20:18.49 | gsocbot | xyzabc: "numapps" is In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
| 20:19.25 | olasd | JordiGH: yes, Debian intends to use last year's GSoC money on OPW, as it wasn't used for GSoC-related purposes |
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| 20:19.39 | JordiGH | olasd: Which GSoC money? |
| 20:19.51 | JordiGH | You got at least 10 students and got 500 USD from each/ |
| 20:19.55 | JordiGH | ? |
| 20:20.02 | sttaylor | dberkholz: yes, the Melange guys just pointed this discrepancy out to us an hour ago. They are working on a fix - some language to make it more clear that connections for my mentors is what used to be mentor request list |
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| 20:20.29 | olasd | JordiGH: yes. |
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| 20:20.49 | JordiGH | olasd: I see. |
| 20:21.42 | JordiGH | marinaz: Oh well, I guess we'll just put stuff in our promotional materials about how women are awesome and welcome in hg. |
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| 20:23.49 | meflin | JordiGH: you might want to do a bit _more_ then that |
| 20:23.52 | dberkholz | oh, weird. |
| 20:23.57 | marinaz | JordiGH: sounds good - did I point you to http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/Mentors ? If you create a list of informal mentors that can help people get started throughout the year, I can add it there. We often use that list to point students to for orgs with friendly mentors who can help them get started any time |
| 20:24.00 | JordiGH | meflin: What do you suggest? |
| 20:24.15 | meflin | actualy I would sugest talking to debian women |
| 20:24.29 | JordiGH | meflin: I was listening in on their conversation, but not too carefully. |
| 20:24.35 | dberkholz | i'm just going to ignore all mentor-related functionality for the moment because it seems to be in flux. |
| 20:24.39 | meflin | they have run some very successful campaigns |
| 20:24.42 | marinaz | JordiGH: actually, not just students, but anyone; and it includes women because we particularly point them to that lest |
| 20:24.43 | marinaz | list |
| 20:25.02 | meflin | one prime place that could need fixed is the comunity |
| 20:25.13 | JordiGH | marinaz: Should the mentors be women themselves? We have one very core member who is female. |
| 20:25.17 | meflin | ie A more global awareness of the issues |
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| 20:25.49 | JordiGH | marinaz: But she hasn't responded to my questions about mentoring... maybe I'm doing it wrong. |
| 20:26.01 | JakeDust | Is it me, or the list only has 79 orgs? |
| 20:26.10 | marinaz | JordiGH: not at all, both men and women can be mentors (as is the case in OPW), and this list is not just for women to get involved, it is for anyone, we just use it when we run various workshops for women or send information to women groups |
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| 20:26.53 | meflin | it is a good idea to be well versed in the issues tho |
| 20:27.09 | JordiGH | JakeDust: List populates as orgs fill out their profiles. |
| 20:27.14 | Nick23 | JakeDust: There are 177 organizations, but the list doesn't have them all because they just got accepted and they need to submit their details. |
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| 20:27.58 | JakeDust | Oh, so there's no other way to see the full list until they fill out their profiles? |
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| 20:28.11 | gevaerts | no |
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| 20:34.09 | allman | JakeDust: correct. |
| 20:34.24 | kblin | dberkholz: well, they've got some more time to get that part right :) |
| 20:34.29 | froggy | some bug in gsoc site ? |
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| 20:34.39 | kblin | maybe? |
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| 20:34.47 | froggy | in melange ? |
| 20:35.09 | kblin | sorry, I only do my famous mind-reading trick on thursdays |
| 20:35.38 | Darrel | hahaha |
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| 20:36.23 | kblin | froggy: can you provide us with some more detail ? |
| 20:36.29 | kblin | apparently not |
| 20:36.32 | dberkholz | time to make some updates to our website in *sigh* cvs |
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| 20:36.55 | kblin | dberkholz: You gentoo guys are so bleeding edge |
| 20:37.09 | kblin | froggy: can you provide us with some more details of what problem you're seeing? |
| 20:37.11 | dberkholz | git actually didn't scale to our needs for quite some time. |
| 20:37.20 | dberkholz | then it lacked security functionality we required |
| 20:37.34 | dberkholz | it's finally at a point, within the last year, where it's feasible |
| 20:37.40 | froggy | in melage orgs are not loading up . 10 showing ! |
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| 20:37.53 | kblin | !notall | froggy |
| 20:37.54 | gsocbot | froggy: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
| 20:38.13 | froggy | It showed upto 60 and now only 10 orgs :) |
| 20:38.20 | kblin | oh? |
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| 20:38.40 | gevaerts | It shows 82 for me |
| 20:38.43 | froggy | in home , it says 177 orgs |
| 20:38.46 | deadlytea | i see them |
| 20:38.46 | froggy | :D |
| 20:38.47 | faishal | !notall | buddypress |
| 20:38.47 | gsocbot | faishal: Error: No such user. |
| 20:39.00 | gevaerts | faishal: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:39.12 | faishal | !buddypress | faishal |
| 20:39.16 | dberkholz | allman: it would be great to get some form of https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations into the mentor/admin manual |
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| 20:39.22 | gevaerts | !botabuse | faishal |
| 20:39.22 | gsocbot | faishal: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
| 20:39.38 | froggy | hahahha |
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| 20:40.04 | allman | Dberkholz: good idea :) |
| 20:40.13 | froggy | melange serously need bug fixes :D |
| 20:40.19 | allman | What all sort of info are you looking for? |
| 20:40.30 | gevaerts | froggy: did you by any chance type something in the filter fields? |
| 20:40.43 | froggy | in url ? nope |
| 20:40.43 | kblin | dberkholz: you're doing fancy two-factor auth stuff thenn? |
| 20:40.45 | froggy | nothing |
| 20:40.54 | gevaerts | Not in the URL, no |
| 20:41.01 | allman | Melange is being updated as we speak, so please stay tuned. Meanwhile, please file a bug report. |
| 20:41.01 | froggy | yeah i did |
| 20:41.04 | froggy | android |
| 20:41.08 | froggy | once |
| 20:41.16 | gevaerts | Right. It remembers that |
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| 20:41.24 | dberkholz | kblin: we needed to authenticate full paths that code traveled ... that meant pushes, not just commits |
| 20:41.27 | allman | :) |
| 20:41.27 | froggy | nope |
| 20:41.41 | froggy | it shows 10 orgs and with filter none |
| 20:41.42 | kblin | dberkholz: ah, fair enough |
| 20:41.42 | dberkholz | kblin: git devs suddenly got interested in such a thing after kernel.org got hacked |
| 20:41.50 | kblin | dberkholz: curious :) |
| 20:42.15 | froggy | ie if i put an android filter no orgs show up :D |
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| 20:42.40 | kblin | dberkholz: I still got a project on SVN that deals with a load of large binary blobs |
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| 20:42.50 | dank | Hi kai! |
| 20:43.00 | kblin | dank: hey there :) |
| 20:43.00 | froggy | eureka ! i have 11 orgs showing |
| 20:43.17 | kblin | froggy: got a " " in your filter maybe? |
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| 20:43.34 | froggy | no filter now kblin |
| 20:43.41 | allman | dberkholz: did yu see http://en.flossmanuals.net/melange/student-application-period/ ? |
| 20:43.45 | froggy | its blank |
| 20:44.33 | gevaerts | froggy: anyway, if you suspect you found a bug in melange, #melange is the right channel to discuss it |
| 20:44.46 | dberkholz | allman: that seems more like a technical walkthrough than a place for describing the rationale for a given # of slots |
| 20:44.50 | kblin | froggy: tried reloading? |
| 20:45.10 | kblin | but yes, what gevaerts said |
| 20:45.43 | froggy | yes reloading many times . i guess it will be solved till morning. right now ii am extracting irc channels of orgs by inspecting that irc element in google chrome :D |
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| 20:46.39 | kblin | dank: how's life treating you these days? |
| 20:46.58 | allman | yup - we went back and forth on whether the manual should include that kind of info versus being a step by step how-to manual. As I recall we opted for the latter, figuring people could read the wiki for the other, and that making the manual longer to incorporate both kinds of info would frighten people away. |
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| 20:47.12 | allman | It's already hard to get people to read anything :( |
| 20:47.50 | dberkholz | allman: ah, i see. i was thinking about centralizing docs more ... so everything is either in student guide, mentor/admin guide, or (for how-to only) in melange guide |
| 20:47.59 | kblin | allman: I'm told gamification is the way to go ;) "Got to page 10? Here's a badge!" |
| 20:48.01 | dberkholz | allman: my sense is that almost nobody even knows the wiki exists |
| 20:48.07 | froggy | good bye |
| 20:48.11 | froggy | guys |
| 20:48.19 | allman | bye Froggy |
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| 20:49.24 | gevaerts | isn't convinced that "I found a bug, I'm not telling anyone how to reproduce it, but I expect it to be fixed by tomorrow" is a productive attitude |
| 20:49.38 | allman | It's a conundrum. I like everything in one place if only because it's easier to keep thing up to date, but I also appreciate people not wanting to reinvent the wheel. |
| 20:50.36 | dank | kblin: I still seem to have a toehold :-) Working at Oblong Industries doing build wrangling. Finally grok apt + buildbot. |
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| 20:51.20 | downey | there's a gsoc wiki? |
| 20:52.09 | kblin | dank: nice. I'm currenly trying to get out of university with my wits intact and a phd in my pocket |
| 20:52.38 | allman | has been for a while, proving Db's point. https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/NotesonStudentAllocations |
| 20:52.38 | kblin | I think I'll be able to do at least half of that |
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| 20:53.26 | downey | allman: i had the feeling that was out of date or at least deprecated, although I do always look there for the logos. :) |
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| 20:53.52 | allman | Nope - it's still a place to find info, as files. |
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| 20:54.06 | rgap | hi |
| 20:54.31 | rgap | how many organizations? |
| 20:54.42 | sunu | 177 |
| 20:54.58 | JordiGH | It'll take a while for them to show up. |
| 20:55.00 | allman | kblin: "badges" are like those darn cards every B&M store wants you to carry around now.. . |
| 20:55.10 | JordiGH | Why not display stubs until they fill out their profiles? |
| 20:55.18 | rgap | there are just 89 |
| 20:55.23 | gevaerts | !notall | rgap |
| 20:55.23 | gsocbot | rgap: "notall" is Accepted organisations need to fill in some data before appearing in the list |
| 20:55.52 | isanchitm | The list will populate with time |
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| 20:56.33 | rgap | ok |
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| 20:59.07 | kblin | oh wow, I just realized this indeed _is_ the 9th gsoc |
| 20:59.11 | kblin | now I feel old |
| 21:00.03 | allman | Not as old as me ;-) |
| 21:00.06 | meflin | bah I was old when I started on gsoc-5 :P |
| 21:00.28 | gevaerts | We're all old |
| 21:00.34 | JordiGH | Nobody's young anymore. |
| 21:00.44 | kblin | meflin: I wasn't old when I did gsoc2005 :) |
| 21:00.56 | meflin | those wippersnapers from last year's org ... those where young |
| 21:01.03 | Darrel | :)) |
| 21:01.09 | |Kev| | I felt old when I started teaching kids TKD who'd been alive less long than I'd been practicing, and I only started in my last year of my first degree at uni. |
| 21:01.09 | sunu | I feel young. This is my first gsoc :) |
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| 21:01.20 | allman | The older I get, the older someone has to be before they seem old ;) |
| 21:01.26 | meflin | 24-25 each and ancient dude |
| 21:01.33 | allman | sunu: welcome and good luck! |
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| 21:01.46 | sunu | allman: ty |
| 21:02.49 | idkwhatever | How long do you think before the full list is up? 2 days? |
| 21:02.49 | kblin | arguably I don't feel old when I go to scientific conferences |
| 21:03.06 | meflin | idkwhatever: mostly fulll 3-4 days |
| 21:03.07 | kblin | idkwhatever: that's a clear maybe! |
| 21:04.06 | idkwhatever | Student participation expected to go upto 6000? |
| 21:04.18 | idkwhatever | As in application submission |
| 21:04.32 | meflin | what will be .. will be |
| 21:05.00 | idkwhatever | Too much pressure :-/ |
| 21:05.09 | bahaa | :s |
| 21:05.14 | meflin | student? |
| 21:05.29 | kblin | idkwhatever: I'm told that in 2005, there were > 9000 proposals sent in |
| 21:05.56 | kblin | poor chris. apparently they all landed in his mailbox and he had to send them on to the mentoring orgs manually |
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| 21:06.30 | idkwhatever | That is a lot. |
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| 21:06.44 | idkwhatever | Wonder why the figures have dwindled. |
| 21:06.48 | meflin | many proposals are jokes |
| 21:07.02 | idkwhatever | to be expected, surely? |
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| 21:08.55 | kblin | idkwhatever: the numbers went down, and the quality went up |
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| 21:11.27 | idkwhatever | Is it encouraged to submit more than one application? |
| 21:11.42 | idkwhatever | to different orgs i.i |
| 21:11.42 | Nick23 | you can submit up to 5 proposals total idkwhatever |
| 21:11.46 | idkwhatever | *i.e |
| 21:12.02 | allman | Encouraged - no. Permitted - yes. |
| 21:12.03 | Nick23 | it can be in the same organization or across different organizations, but the total is 5 |
| 21:12.03 | baba | isn't that the limit for total proposals were 20 ? |
| 21:12.15 | Nick23 | limit is 5 total, not 20 |
| 21:12.22 | hasil | sending a patch along with your proposal , how important is it to do so and what if we are not able to do so are we lacking anywhere in comparison to those who had submitted a patch ? |
| 21:12.23 | baba | ok |
| 21:12.36 | allman | not 20 anymore. It was a waste of everyone's time. |
| 21:12.55 | idkwhatever | I think it should have been capped at 3. |
| 21:12.56 | baba | allman: than 5 now ? |
| 21:13.16 | allman | yes - now it's capped at 5. |
| 21:13.27 | baba | coool |
| 21:13.51 | allman | Just remember: quality is better than quantity. |
| 21:14.13 | ThomasWaldmann | is there a bug with mentor acceptance not showing "accept"? |
| 21:14.27 | ThomasWaldmann | (but just withdraw and reject) |
| 21:14.32 | meflin | seems so |
| 21:15.09 | baba | hmm.. |
| 21:15.29 | yashness | yet not listed .. mozilla :( |
| 21:15.55 | meflin | admin has to fill out a form ... those admin's will have received emails's by now |
| 21:16.13 | meflin | not everyone in the world is even awake |
| 21:16.26 | jenmylo | ThomasWaldmann: yet, the bug is already known. see #melange for discussion of bugs |
| 21:16.34 | ThomasWaldmann | ok |
| 21:16.52 | meflin | patience is a virtue |
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| 21:26.47 | carldani | woohooo! our org made it! |
| 21:27.00 | carldani | carols: Thank you so much! |
| 21:27.04 | carols | yw |
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| 21:28.17 | thiago | yeah, I've been trying to do that for a couple of years now :-) |
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| 21:28.18 | carldani | hm. 500 Internal Server Error when registering as mentor |
| 21:29.26 | Nick23 | carldani: that's because there's a bug with melange. see #melange, you'll just need to wait until it's fixed. |
| 21:30.03 | Nick23 | carols: you may want to add something about that in this chatroom topic. |
| 21:30.07 | carldani | hm, it worked on the second try |
| 21:30.21 | carldani | Nick23: thanks for the info |
| 21:30.54 | Nick23 | you're welcome |
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| 21:59.46 | kallisti5 | congrats to all the accepted orgs! |
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| 22:05.48 | JZA | when is the complete list of projects be published?} |
| 22:06.23 | carols | JZA: you mean the mentoring organizations list? |
| 22:06.25 | anth_r | JZA: the list gets populated as org admins fill in the details for the org. |
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| 22:06.27 | carols | or you mean student projects? |
| 22:06.37 | JZA | mentoring organizations |
| 22:06.54 | JZA | seem only 100 out of 177 projects are listed |
| 22:07.07 | carols | JZA: they populate as the orgs create their homepages. |
| 22:07.14 | gevaerts | Look better. There are 104 there now :) |
| 22:08.25 | anth_r | having said that, i should go fill out our info... |
| 22:08.36 | frenchie4111 | Is this not it? http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 22:10.38 | ojwb | frenchie4111: it's incomplete currently |
| 22:10.46 | ojwb | the org admin has to fill in a profile to appear there |
| 22:10.47 | frenchie4111 | Oh okay. I didn't bother to count |
| 22:10.55 | tg | when is the complete list coming then? |
| 22:10.59 | ojwb | it'll probably take several days for the last few stragglers to do so |
| 22:11.02 | ojwb | based on past years |
| 22:11.14 | carols | tg: whenever the rest of the orgs fill out their profiles. |
| 22:11.31 | carols | they were told very strongly in their acceptance emails that they would not appear in that list until they filled out their profile. |
| 22:11.38 | carols | but, as you can see, some listen more than others. |
| 22:11.46 | ojwb | so prod your org admin if your org isn't there |
| 22:12.05 | ojwb | TBF, it's only been 3 hours - some may still be asleep |
| 22:12.41 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
| 22:13.52 | meflin | my 1-A is in transit ... hard to fill out forms in an airplane |
| 22:14.07 | meflin | mm tea thanks carols! |
| 22:14.13 | carols | yw meflin :-) |
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| 22:15.59 | gchaix | waves hello to the OSPO crew |
| 22:16.21 | carols | hey gchaix :-) |
| 22:16.26 | carols | nice to see you in here. |
| 22:16.28 | gchaix | :-) |
| 22:16.43 | gchaix | Terri's talked me into volounteering for Python this year |
| 22:17.12 | gchaix | who do I ping about recovering my username in melange? It's not letting me register again |
| 22:17.21 | carols | gchaix: #melange |
| 22:17.30 | gchaix | aye aye, heading there now |
| 22:17.34 | carols | that's great that you're volunteering with PSF! |
| 22:17.37 | carols | great |
| 22:17.58 | gchaix | I missed y'all :-) |
| 22:18.13 | gchaix | so it didn't take much arm-twisting |
| 22:18.30 | carols | still, it's great to hear :-) |
| 22:18.38 | carols | we missed you too! |
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| 22:20.21 | edsiper | how many orgs applied this year ? |
| 22:20.29 | carols | edsiper: 417. it's in the blog post. |
| 22:20.42 | edsiper | thanks |
| 22:20.52 | carols | yw |
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| 22:23.34 | nemo | you know what would be nice, is if somehow we could just ask google nicely to convert the cash they offered the org into a slot for this years' GSoC |
| 22:23.47 | nemo | I mean, if the slot limitations for google are a question of money |
| 22:23.49 | ChipX86 | nemo: we'd do that |
| 22:23.53 | nemo | ooooh |
| 22:23.54 | nemo | OMFG! |
| 22:23.56 | nemo | serious??? |
| 22:24.00 | nemo | that's awesome |
| 22:24.05 | ChipX86 | no wait |
| 22:24.07 | ChipX86 | I mean, our org |
| 22:24.10 | nemo | ah :D |
| 22:24.16 | ChipX86 | sorry :) |
| 22:24.23 | nemo | heh. well, that's still great :) |
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| 22:24.38 | nemo | I mean, it would offer access to the students and everything, which is main issue |
| 22:25.07 | edsiper | but there is something interesting.. realize why you did not get the expected slots.. |
| 22:26.25 | nemo | edsiper: erm? |
| 22:26.31 | nemo | don't quite follow |
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| 22:35.56 | jps | hey everyone how's it going? |
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| 22:36.13 | carols | good, thanks. how are you, jps? |
| 22:36.18 | jps | clicking on "see all 177 accepted organizations" shows 106 organizations |
| 22:36.26 | carols | yep, i probably will for a while. |
| 22:36.32 | jps | other than that I'm great :) |
| 22:36.37 | carols | awesome :-) |
| 22:36.41 | Nick23 | jps because all organizations haven't submitted their details yet, you'll just need to wait and check back. |
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| 22:37.03 | jps | ok cool, figured you much already know. Oh, I should be remembering this same thing from last year, shouldn't I? |
| 22:37.10 | jps | you must* |
| 22:38.16 | jps | lol, it's even in the topic |
| 22:38.39 | jps | ...later then :) |
| 22:39.33 | JZA | I work with apache, how can I know if our details are filled up_ |
| 22:39.35 | JZA | ? |
| 22:39.49 | carols | JZA: does the org appear in the orgs list? |
| 22:39.57 | JZA | not yet |
| 22:40.07 | carols | then you have not filled in the details. |
| 22:40.26 | carols | there's a link in the email you were sent when you were accepted and it's on your dashboard. |
| 22:41.05 | carols | (if you're an org admin) |
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| 22:46.57 | JZA | no, I am going to be a mentor, but will report back to the ML |
| 22:47.03 | carols | great |
| 22:47.21 | JZA | give an update on our status and hopefully the org admin will take notice |
| 22:47.31 | carols | or read his/her email. |
| 22:47.37 | carols | it's pretty explicitly called out in the email. |
| 22:47.46 | carols | but no one reads the things I write. |
| 22:47.48 | carols | goes to sulk |
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| 22:48.19 | gevaerts | would have read it! |
| 22:48.26 | carols | thank you, gevaerts. |
| 22:48.35 | gevaerts | You didn |
| 22:48.41 | gevaerts | 't give me the chance though ;) |
| 22:48.42 | allman | CarolS: have a cookie with your tea - or chocolate! |
| 22:48.48 | carols | thanks :-) |
| 22:49.14 | carols | sorry gevaerts :-( |
| 22:49.22 | carols | lots of tough choices this year. |
| 22:49.26 | carols | as with every year. |
| 22:49.36 | gevaerts | carols: no problem. Time for the exciting new orgs :) |
| 22:49.47 | carols | yeah, lots of new orgs this year :-) |
| 22:49.53 | Rex_ | correct! |
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| 22:54.33 | carols | Rex_: does that mean you're with a new org, or you're just commenting on there being a lot of new orgs? |
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| 22:56.47 | frenchie4111 | !next |
| 22:56.57 | carols | aw, poor bot is tired. |
| 22:56.58 | gsocbot | frenchie4111: "next" is April 8 19:00 UTC: Accepted mentor organizations announced |
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| 22:57.11 | frenchie4111 | I was just wondering if it was fixed |
| 22:57.30 | carols | looks like it hasn't had its afternoon coffee, based on that delay. |
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| 22:59.32 | anth_r | carols: fyi, i fully read your email. so there's one, at least. |
| 22:59.48 | carols | anth_r: thank you! that's great to hear. |
| 22:59.52 | carols | so refreshing. |
| 23:00.10 | carols | i even used double stars to indicate it was really important. |
| 23:00.16 | carols | didn't seem to matter. |
| 23:00.23 | ojwb | perhaps they cancel out? |
| 23:00.28 | anth_r | you forgot the <blink> |
| 23:00.29 | carols | maybe so. |
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| 23:00.40 | carols | i did, you're right, anth_r. for next year. |
| 23:02.10 | MatthewWilkes | hi all! |
| 23:02.16 | frenchie4111 | Hi! |
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| 23:02.55 | frenchie4111 | Can someone fix !next to make it the proper next date? I am trying to get gsocbot to tell me the command but he refuses |
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| 23:03.52 | demosdemon | !learn next as April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
| 23:03.53 | gsocbot | demosdemon: "next" is (#1) April 8 19:00 UTC: Accepted mentor organizations announced, or (#2) April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
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| 23:03.58 | demosdemon | !forget next 1 |
| 23:03.59 | gsocbot | demosdemon: "next" is April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
| 23:04.09 | frenchie4111 | LEARN. I knew it was something |
| 23:04.13 | idkwhatever | Project ideas in BRL-CAD: Code reduction?! Fix bugs?! |
| 23:04.23 | Nick23 | !next |
| 23:04.24 | gsocbot | Nick23: "next" is April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
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| 23:05.12 | yashness1 | !next |
| 23:05.14 | gsocbot | yashness1: "next" is April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
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| 23:08.00 | Rex_ | Wireshark is there!...\m/...:) |
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| 23:12.36 | idkwhatever | Some orgs don't have tags :/ |
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| 23:13.03 | mranostay | morning |
| 23:13.52 | bbc | afternoon |
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| 23:27.25 | asaldhan | can I just import last year's mentors into this year? |
| 23:27.38 | asaldhan | without asking them to register/associate again |
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| 23:33.22 | tomprince | No. |
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| 23:52.19 | GorillaWarfare | Er, is it just me, or is http://ankur.org.in/projects/project-ideas/ broken? |
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| 23:53.56 | ojwb | perhaps it couldn't cope with the load |
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| 23:54.25 | musegarden | I'm not getting any error it just keeps trying to load |
| 23:54.30 | musegarden | I suspect it might be load also |
| 23:54.57 | GorillaWarfare | Huh, maybe |
| 23:55.01 | GorillaWarfare | My browser just gives up, haha |
| 23:55.35 | ChrisOelmueller | their main page also links to https://github.com/ankur-india/ankur-india/wiki/Project-Ideas |
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