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| 03:08.45 | dogui | Is it too bad if I emailed my possible mentors two days ago and haven't got a reply? :( |
| 03:09.01 | paultag | wait 4 days, then worry |
| 03:09.29 | dogui | But the suspense is killing me! Yeah I'm too anxious I guess.. |
| 03:09.33 | paultag | :) |
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| 04:07.28 | iamcool1 | hey. at the end of gsoc, after completing successfully, can we ask for 'recommendation letter' for mentor.. just in case we are applying any projects in future? |
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| 04:08.51 | white | isnt that between you and your mentor? |
| 04:09.20 | ChrisOelmueller | sure, you can ask your organization and/or mentors |
| 04:09.25 | thiago | open source projects don't require letter of recommendation |
| 04:09.34 | thiago | but you can ask for one for a job |
| 04:10.06 | iamcool1 | If I were to submit a reco when applying for a job.. and can I ask the gsoc mentor? |
| 04:10.11 | ChrisOelmueller | but if you want to continue working on open source projects, your previous open work will be all the recommendation you'll ever need :) |
| 04:11.14 | thiago | indeed |
| 04:11.22 | thiago | it's open source, you can always just point to the code |
| 04:11.40 | thiago | anyway, if you want to ask your mentor for a letter, you can |
| 04:11.56 | meflin | I wrote a grad school letter for a past student |
| 04:11.58 | thiago | there's nothing in the rules that prohibit you from asking and the mentor from writing such a letter |
| 04:12.10 | thiago | whether the mentor will do it, that's another story |
| 04:12.33 | iamcool1 | yeah.. yes |
| 04:12.42 | iamcool1 | thanks for your replies :) |
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| 04:20.14 | andrew | does anyone know the expected number of hours we'd be working? |
| 04:20.55 | Guest1638 | i already have a full time job for this summer (software engineering at an astrophysics lab), but going to college next year, the stipend would be very helpful |
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| 04:21.08 | meflin | 8 hours a day at least |
| 04:21.12 | Guest1638 | oooh |
| 04:21.15 | Guest1638 | rly? |
| 04:21.28 | meflin | its a job |
| 04:21.41 | Guest1638 | meflin, how may gsoc's have you done? |
| 04:21.55 | meflin | as a admin/mentor? this is my 4th |
| 04:22.05 | Guest1638 | cool |
| 04:22.09 | Guest1638 | which org? |
| 04:22.18 | meflin | more then 1 |
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| 04:22.40 | Guest1638 | i see |
| 04:22.47 | Guest1638 | thanks for the info |
| 04:23.06 | Guest1638 | i guess gsoc wouldn't work for me, but it sounds like a great experience |
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| 04:23.13 | meflin | it is |
| 04:23.18 | meflin | but you left :P |
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| 04:28.55 | nurupo | he left for science |
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| 05:35.52 | marandi | hi guys , im from Iran , can i participate in gsoc ? |
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| 05:39.28 | nurupo | marandi: seems like you are not allowed to http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as |
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| 05:40.02 | nurupo | or, better say, you are ineligible |
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| 05:41.52 | marandi | nurupo: its so unfair :( ! |
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| 05:42.19 | dfighter | marandi, no not really |
| 05:42.31 | dfighter | your government hates on the US, basically calling it evil and whatnot |
| 05:42.44 | dfighter | but here you are basically asking money from a US company |
| 05:43.13 | dfighter | however you are just in time to start a revolution and remove your current government from power |
| 05:43.24 | dfighter | then the embargo will end before next GSOC if all's good |
| 05:43.30 | dfighter | then you can participate in GSOC! |
| 05:43.42 | mithro | Any students interested in hardware projects? We have quite a few interesting ones at TimVideos -> #timvideos |
| 05:43.48 | demosdemon | in 10 years after US law is changed |
| 05:43.53 | marandi | dfighter: listen to urself , u telling me ur goverment not the people and calm down ! im not asking for any money i just want to participate with it ! |
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| 05:44.32 | ChrisOelmueller | you can contribute to open source projects whenever you feel like it |
| 05:44.37 | dfighter | marandi, participation involves payment :P |
| 05:44.43 | dfighter | and governments can be changed |
| 05:44.52 | dfighter | altough granted in your case it might invole some bloodshed |
| 05:45.05 | dfighter | so buy a gun today and start shooting! |
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| 05:45.17 | ChrisOelmueller | dfighter: that's inappropriate. |
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| 05:45.27 | marandi | dfighter: shutup idiot ! |
| 05:45.32 | darnir | mithro: What is the scope of your hardware projects? Lets take this to #timvideos |
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| 05:46.17 | dfighter | however as ChrisOelmueller said you can get involved in open source projects without GSOC too |
| 05:46.30 | nurupo | mithro: i assume it's not for GSoC, since GSoC deals only with code, not hardware or documentation or whatnot |
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| 05:46.55 | mithro | nurupo, turns out these day hardware is 95% code |
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| 05:47.46 | dfighter | ChrisOelmueller yea it might be, however I was just trying to point out why it's not so unfair |
| 05:48.21 | ChrisOelmueller | then you failed at that, i'm not discussing this now |
| 05:48.40 | dfighter | mkay |
| 05:48.50 | ChrisOelmueller | i'll have some folks review the logs as well because i don't feel like this is a place to leave comments such as yours |
| 05:49.29 | dfighter | feel free |
| 05:50.11 | scorche` | yeah...lets keep the political discussions away from here |
| 05:51.43 | mithro | so most of the "hardware" is really writing VHDL / Verilog code |
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| 05:53.38 | nurupo | mithro: interesting, didn't know that |
| 05:54.33 | mithro | nurupo, we also have a bunch of projects working with pan/tilt/zoom cameras |
| 05:54.36 | darnir | nurupo: That is actually very true. With HDL Languages, Hardware programming is pretty much the same as C now. |
| 05:55.01 | dfighter | sure scorche I was already done anyways, just "had" to vent a little about it. I do it quite rarely tho, so no need to be worried about me :P |
| 05:55.27 | scorche | dfighter: if you feel the need to vent about it more, please do it somewhere else |
| 05:55.47 | dfighter | sure scorche, sorry |
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| 05:59.23 | skoushik | Anyone tried contacting CERN mentors?.. I didn't get any reply from them. |
| 05:59.24 | faust | can a student apply to more then one project? |
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| 06:00.08 | scorche | faust: yes - you will only be able to be accepted into one though |
| 06:00.29 | faust | scorche thank you |
| 06:00.56 | nurupo | faust: you can submit up to 5 proposals |
| 06:01.10 | nurupo | faust: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#6._Can_a_student_submit_more_than_one |
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| 09:42.49 | Yash | are there 175 orgs or 177 orgs? |
| 09:44.14 | waldi | there are 177 accepted organizations. where do you get the count of 175? |
| 09:45.06 | waldi | only 175 organizations created their pages yet |
| 09:45.53 | Yash | ok. |
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| 09:46.12 | olly | one still hasn't for last year |
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| 12:27.48 | mumble123 | so who else is excited? |
| 12:28.08 | mumble123 | so who else is excited? |
| 12:28.30 | mumble123 | anyone did a project earlier? |
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| 15:24.39 | Shaka | please any help with how to analyze the .in files |
| 15:26.02 | Shaka | i can't correlate the input content with the question asked... |
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| 15:27.05 | Shaka | per the google code jam... |
| 15:27.15 | Shaka | any help people??? |
| 15:27.33 | gevaerts | Shaka: is this related to GSoC? |
| 15:28.25 | Shaka | naah |
| 15:28.47 | gevaerts | In that case, this isn't the right place to ask |
| 15:29.10 | Shaka | just assumming that exprienced google coders will be in here... |
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| 15:31.57 | anth_r | there's a Mini Makers Faire in Cleveland today. i'm going to swing by this afternoon and see if i can find any college students who don't yet know that they should be applying to GSoC. ☺ |
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| 15:32.18 | anth_r | (although from the way it's described and from the session descriptions, i think it's mostly for younger kids) |
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| 15:34.31 | ab_ | can anyone explain what basis are the slots allocated to organizations and is is similar each year for a particular organization or does it fluctuate a lot? |
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| 15:35.39 | gevaerts | ab_: organisations provide some numbers of slots they'd like, and then the google people decide |
| 15:35.48 | gevaerts | That's about the most detail that's known :) |
| 15:36.13 | gevaerts | New organisations are likely to get one or two |
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| 15:36.28 | ab_ | oh! thanks for the info :) |
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| 16:40.45 | Krinye | Had some questions about elligibility hoping someone could help me out |
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| 16:43.21 | rajul | hi Krinye |
| 16:43.30 | rajul | what is your problem?? |
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| 16:44.31 | Krinye | I am in second year I took a semester off school to catch up with my school payments am I still able to apply for google summer of code? |
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| 16:46.15 | codercube | Krinye if your school can give you a document that states you are a student on the date when GSOC starts, then you are eligible |
| 16:46.25 | neverpanic | If you're still officially enrolled, then I guess yes. |
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| 16:47.48 | Krinye | thanks coder cube!! |
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| 17:52.27 | gsocbot | Crystallis: "next" is April 22 19:00 UTC: Student application period opens. |
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| 17:59.40 | banas | Hi all. GSoC rules say, "Teamwork" isnt allowed. |
| 17:59.45 | banas | What does that mean? |
| 17:59.55 | banas | One slot cannot be allocated to one or more students? |
| 18:00.12 | banas | Sorry, I meant two or more. |
| 18:00.13 | ojwb | it indeed can't |
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| 18:00.46 | gevaerts | The idea is that one student vanishing into thin air should have as little impact as possible on another student's project |
| 18:00.55 | banas | But if the mentoring org agrees, can two people work on one project. as different slots, doing different things? |
| 18:01.15 | ojwb | it's a bad idea, because if one student fails to deliver, the other is stuck |
| 18:01.16 | banas | gevaerts: Makes sense |
| 18:01.50 | banas | ojwb: Alright. :) |
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| 18:18.18 | JZA | I want to know how can I get my profile on GSoC associated as a mentor to the SugarLabs project, is there a process for that? |
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| 18:55.18 | pnema | JZA: Was SugarLabs picked as project for GSOC |
| 18:55.39 | JZA | pnema: yes |
| 18:56.42 | pnema | I would think you go to the main GSOC 2013 and create a login (or use your google login). Then fill out your profile. I "think" you can associate your profile to SugarLabs |
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| 18:58.50 | JZA | pnema: so you dont know how to do that. |
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| 18:59.30 | pnema | No, I'm just recalling when I submitted my project |
| 18:59.42 | pnema | So I'm not 100% sure, just going off memory |
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| 19:01.47 | JZA | pnema: ok I am not the owner of the project. |
| 19:02.19 | lionaneesh | JZA: Go to http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/sugarlabs2013 |
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| 19:04.16 | lionaneesh | JZA: Click on "Start a Connection" |
| 19:04.23 | JZA | ok got it. |
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| 19:05.34 | JZA | ok got it now |
| 19:06.12 | JZA | now I need an Org action required to validate me. |
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| 19:11.51 | MatthewWilkes | JZA: I'd recommend talking to the org admin, rather than just requesting access |
| 19:12.28 | JZA | MatthewWilkes: how do I know who is the org admin |
| 19:12.54 | patrickg | ask on their irc/mailing list/forum (whatever they use) |
| 19:13.58 | patrickg | or make that "your" irc/list/forum - I doubt there are projects that take mentors that aren't already part of the community |
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| 19:15.33 | JZA | patrickg: I think this is not helpful, I just want to know where is the mentor org listed in melange |
| 19:15.39 | JZA | not - go and look in your community |
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| 19:23.07 | tomprince | If you aren't already part of the community, you won't be accepted as a mentor. If you are, you should know where in your community to get the necessary information. |
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| 19:52.46 | hello | Hello |
| 19:53.01 | blackjack69 | hello |
| 19:53.26 | hello | Is this the Google Summer of Code channel? |
| 19:53.51 | scorche | do you really have to ask? ;) |
| 19:54.42 | tomprince | Have a look at the topic. |
| 19:54.43 | hello | Ok, How do I sign up for GSOC and what doI do? |
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| 19:56.35 | scorche | !faq |
| 19:56.36 | gsocbot | scorche: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
| 19:56.49 | scorche | hell0: read this first: ^^ |
| 19:56.50 | keturn | applications aren't open for another few days, but see that and |
| 19:56.51 | keturn | !studentguide |
| 19:56.52 | gsocbot | keturn: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 19:57.00 | scorche | hell0: and that ^^ |
| 19:57.23 | hello | OK thank you. |
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| 20:07.08 | kabbi_ | !factoids |
| 20:07.08 | gsocbot | kabbi_: "factoids" is To see all factoids, /msg gsocbot factoids search #gsoc * |
| 20:08.05 | kabbi_ | !school |
| 20:08.06 | gsocbot | kabbi_: "school" is If you school/college/university isn't listed in the dropdown list, just type in its name instead |
| 20:08.15 | kabbi_ | !8ball |
| 20:08.16 | gsocbot | kabbi_: "8ball" is Signs point to yes. |
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| 20:11.34 | tomprince | !botabuse | kabbi_ |
| 20:11.35 | gsocbot | kabbi_: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
| 20:12.14 | kabbi_ | sorry |
| 20:12.26 | tomprince | No problem. |
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| 20:12.45 | tomprince | A small amount is fine. |
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| 20:23.41 | KenR | Hallo |
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| 20:36.57 | KenR_ | I cannot seem to find the mentor list.. |
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| 20:46.51 | dogui | I'm not sure if there's a mentor list, but there is an idea list with the associated mentors |
| 20:47.17 | dogui | Sorry, what I meant: An org list, in each one an ideas list with mentors |
| 20:48.23 | gevaerts | dogui: he's gone by now |
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| 20:50.59 | dogui | oops, i checked but missed his leave. sorry |
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| 21:38.38 | harshadura | factoids search #gsoc 1 |
| 21:40.20 | harshadura | says sorry |
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| 21:50.29 | samurai | Hello everyone! I have a question; anyone knows some projects (among GSoC projects) where is provided the use of Dart Language? |
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| 22:05.12 | Skoder | i see that teams are not allowed but can a single mentor have different students on different projects |
| 22:07.34 | edsiper | samurai, you should try the Tags search in the organization list |
| 22:09.49 | Skoder | I understand that a student can work only on one project, but is it the same restriction for mentors that a mentor can only work on one project |
| 22:11.31 | samurai | I tried it: 0 results. But, for example, between plan9 projects there is one about Dart language (about porting DIS Virtual Machine with Dart). Maybe there is someone who has more news! |
| 22:11.59 | edsiper | Skoder, a mentor can "mentor" many students |
| 22:12.18 | edsiper | samurai, so you should contact that organization ASAP |
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| 22:12.46 | edsiper | Skoder, can != suggested |
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| 22:16.09 | abi_ | i want to apply for gsoc.. but have some ques about it. |
| 22:18.54 | Crystallis | "ques"? As in "questions"? |
| 22:21.43 | abi_ | ya questions. i mean i have gone through few projects and their requirements. but i find myself to be knowing just half of the languages and platforms required. |
| 22:22.34 | abi_ | and also i dont have any experience in open source programming so would that matter when i apply for projects.. |
| 22:23.26 | neverpanic | !goodenough |
| 22:23.27 | gsocbot | neverpanic: "goodenough" is Am I good enough to be a student for GSoC? http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/am-i-good-enough/ |
| 22:23.42 | neverpanic | abi_: see this ^ |
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| 22:29.32 | abi_ | and can we start contacting the organisation now itself, i mean as in now the mentors are applying and are yet not finalised. |
| 22:29.48 | tomprince | Yes. |
| 22:29.52 | tomprince | Earlier is better. |
| 22:29.53 | edsiper | abi_, i am sure you will find some project that match your skills. While ago i was a GSoC student, and i had to learn Python under way |
| 22:30.42 | edsiper | its not something about a perfect match, its about you can do it. Even have previous open source experience is desired the program targets students to get involved into it, so its not mandatory |
| 22:31.23 | edsiper | abi_, try to contact the organization admin, it depends of the organization |
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| 22:34.01 | DrinkMachine | so if I find a project |
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| 22:34.08 | DrinkMachine | do I talk to them about applyin |
| 22:34.10 | DrinkMachine | or apply to google? |
| 22:34.32 | otaciliofl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.40 | tomprince | You apply through melange. |
| 22:34.49 | tomprince | But you should definitely talk to them about applying. |
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| 22:36.13 | abi_ | i have knowledge of some programming languages like python , java , c , c++. but the projects requirements are about compilers and libaries and etc along with the languages about which i have no knowledge at all. |
| 22:36.34 | abi_ | so would be possible to apply for such projects |
| 22:37.50 | abi_ | with an assurance that i wud learn about them as the project goes on in the menawhile.. |
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| 23:49.33 | wywin | I think I'm psyching myself out over GSoC. All the project ideas seems super complicated and intimidating. Is "learning on the fly" normal and anticpated by the mentors? I feel like I could do some of these once I have the task in front of me with the help of some google-fu, but I don't feel super confident going in semi-blind. Does that make sense, and is that normal? |
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| 23:57.40 | dfighter | wywin these are projects for 3 months, ofc they will be complicated |
| 23:57.56 | keturn | yeah, I think we expect you'll learn as you go. |
| 23:58.43 | wywin | keturn: that is a relief to hear. Now I will be anxious in my application process! Thanks! |
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