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00:07.43AchillionDoen to 18 hours already
00:08.08AchillionDown*
00:11.14edsiperresults will be out shortly
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00:12.28dfighterrofl
00:12.32dfighter"shortly"
00:12.45dfighterguess it's a matter of perspective
00:13.07edsiperhehe
00:13.33AchillionWell 18 hours isn't much. Especially with a good night's sleep in there somewhere
00:15.10dfighternever said it was a long time :)
00:16.33chetnai wasn't even able to sleep Achillion.. n still 18hrs :P .. it is 5:45 am here in india
00:17.03Achillion3:15 here. gonna be heading to bed soon
00:17.21AchillionBut these are the coding hours, so I'm making the most of it :)
00:17.49dfighterchetna I could offer some chill pills, but I doubt it'd arrive in time :)
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00:18.16chetnaAchillion : i have been trying tht for past 4 hrs i guess :P .... but no sleep !!
00:18.38dfighterI still have like 10 pills of Clonazepam, it puts you to sleep pretty fast
00:19.09dfighterunless you are already on a benzo
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00:19.38chetnadfighter : haha .. pills!! ... i think i'll get up exactly at12:30 am(the result time) then :P
00:19.56dfighterhehe
00:20.00dfighterwell dunno
00:20.07dfighterwhile I was taking these I slept all day
00:20.15dfighterI was only up for like 1-2 hours a day
00:20.39chetnay did you need these in regular days ?
00:20.54AchillionI dont take pills
00:20.59AchillionUnless I really have to
00:21.05dfighterI used to have panic disorder
00:21.10chetna:p .. neither do i Achillion !!
00:21.51dfightertook these while the anti-depressant that the shrink prescribed started to take effect
00:22.12dfightersince then I'm free of either
00:22.44dfighterhaven't taken any psychiatric pills for almost 2 months now
00:23.06chetnai better go n play basket-ball would feel better !
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00:23.58dfighteror jog a bit
00:24.12dfightershould make you tired enough to sleep hehe
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00:27.07derdonjogging makes you tired? for me it's the opposite: nothing makes me better awake than starting the day with a nice run
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00:28.21dfighterderdon we're different then :)
00:28.30derdonindeed
00:28.36dfighterbut then it also could be that it's your daily routine and that's why
00:28.48derdonit should be :(
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00:28.58derdonI'm not good at motivating myself to run again
00:29.22dfighteralso if you're already tired and you do something tiring, then you just get more tired
00:29.43dfighterso jogging in the evening or jogging in the morning aren't the same
00:30.01derdontrue. like sitting in front of a monitor when you want to go to bed
00:30.37derdonyep, jogging in the evening is good for a nice sleep
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00:31.23dfighter:)
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01:36.04AchillionGoodnight all. Good luck tomorrow
01:38.07GorillaWarfarewin 11
01:38.10GorillaWarfareOops
01:38.31derdontomorrow? today for some :)
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02:53.52babachetna: you still there ?
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03:04.17harshadura_!countdown
03:04.18gsocbotharshadura_: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4
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03:19.04babahi prasoon2211_
03:19.13babastill you are awake or had a sleep ?
03:19.18prasoon2211_hi baba
03:19.33prasoon2211_slept, badly. Way too hot.
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03:30.02babaprasoon2211_: i justwoke up
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03:37.05babayeah temp is around 43 degree cent
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03:40.16billybob_han!numapps
03:40.16gsocbotbillybob_han: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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04:02.07lkljs!next
04:02.08gsocbotlkljs: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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04:23.27qmaruf!countdown
04:23.28gsocbotqmaruf: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4
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04:54.57SunuThePirateAhoy fellow pirates!!
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05:37.54holauhi ! one doubt i have abt the results today is whther will the names of students be declared all at once or like it happened with the names of the orgs (part by part) ?
05:39.19valorieholau: you'll get your email soon enough
05:39.31holaumail ?
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05:41.02holausorry valorie i didn't quite understand , can u pls elaborate ?
05:41.19waitingForResultThe names should be declared all at once.
05:41.56valorieyou'll get an email from Google
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05:42.05babawaitingForResult: :P
05:42.11valoriesure
05:42.16valorie!countdown
05:42.17gsocbotvalorie: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4
05:42.19valorie:-)
05:42.28babafeeling the heat inside
05:43.32waitingForResultThe wait is so frustrating.
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05:45.42kaithe orgs were all emailed once they got in
05:46.03kaithey just did not appear on melange until they filled out some extra web forms
05:46.08kaiand some orgs took a while
05:46.13kaican't blame google on that
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05:47.01kaiAs every student will get an email per proposal they've sent in, sending out those emails will also take a while
05:47.32kaiyou'll survive. Every year did so far. :)
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05:48.50holaukai, but checking out the melange would be a better option because as u said the mails wud take a while to be sent
05:48.52holau?
05:48.55weltallAndSure? XD
05:50.15kaiif you feel like doing that, sure :)
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05:51.38jcalvino1ensIs it really so important to find out 30 seconds sooner?
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05:52.05jcalvino1ensdoesn't understand this hysteria
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05:52.41valorieit is 3 months of the students' lives.....
05:52.57valorieI don't blame folks for being impatient
05:53.28animatormy stomach is doing blackflips
05:53.47animatorthe butterflies doesn't like that
05:53.50foulwall!logs
05:53.50gsocbotfoulwall: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
05:54.04foulwall!countdown
05:54.05gsocbotfoulwall: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4
05:55.07jcalvino1ensI mean, I get being impatient, but I don't see why finding out seconds earlier is such a big deal...
05:57.44ojwbyou'll probably find melange will be overloaded just after the announcement anyway
05:57.47babavalorie: you are the one who really understands the students, else everyone keeps on telling be patient :P
05:57.53ojwbso the email might get there first anyway
05:58.21valoriethis is my third year as admin
05:58.45valorieand I mentored GCi the year before that
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05:58.59valorieI love working with the students
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06:00.13aciidwhat is GCi?
06:00.50SunuThePirateGoogle Code In
06:00.50kaibaba: I've been a student 2005-2007, being all nervous sure didn't help :)
06:01.00aciidoh I see
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06:01.12valorieBREATHE
06:01.15valorie:-)
06:01.33SunuThePirateBeing duplicated has its benefits :D XD
06:02.09SunuThePiratevalorie++
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06:02.52SunuThePirateAwesome and helpful mentors make GSoC all the more fun!
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06:07.23babavalorie: nice :)
06:07.38babakai: he he he
06:07.48aciidvalorie: (Y
06:07.51aciidvalorie: (Y) *
06:08.14babaSunuThePirate: if it's duplicated atleast you know that your selection is sure
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06:11.46SunuThePirateyep, that's what I'm talking about ;-)
06:12.38SunuThePiratebaba: which org?
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06:27.58valorieSunuThePirate: indeed
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06:38.38SunuThePiratevalorie: It looks so awesome :) All bugzilla installations should be bootstrapped :D
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06:39.15valorieour sysadmins are pretty awesome, as are our www people
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06:42.39SunuThePiratevalorie: MainMan3 is bootstrapped and it looks awesome too. Too good compared to MM2.
06:43.21valorieI don't know what those are!
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06:44.32aciid12 hrs ._.
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06:46.24SunuThePiratevalorie: Mailman is probably the most use mailing list software.
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06:47.02valoriewell, I don't use the web interface of mailman much
06:47.15valorieas a listowner, I use listadmin on the cli
06:47.29valorieas a reader, I see the posts in my mail client
06:47.44valoriethe web interface sucks a bit, yeah
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06:58.14babavalorie: you are from which org ?
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06:58.33valorieKDE
06:58.42SunuThePiratevalorie: Have a look at the interface of the new archiever (hyperkitty) http://mm3test.fedoraproject.org/hyperkitty
06:58.50SunuThePirateIt looks cool.
06:59.02valorienice!
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07:00.57babavalorie: nice
07:01.18valorieit's a great org
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07:02.06kenzo450Dbaba, which org are you from?
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07:02.21babaapplied to python
07:02.26babai am a student
07:02.43babakenzo450D: you ?
07:02.57kenzo450Dyes i am a student. Applied in KDE.
07:03.03babakenzo450D: nice
07:03.25kenzo450Dbaba : and where are you from?
07:03.25valoriedoing what, kenzo450D?
07:03.35valorieI didn't read all the proposals
07:03.36SunuThePirateis doing my project under PSF too :-)
07:03.37foulwallSunuThePirate: nice
07:03.42kenzo450Dvalorie: in digiKam
07:03.54valorieah, great project
07:03.56kenzo450Dvalorie: what about you?
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07:04.00kenzo450D^_^
07:04.12SunuThePiratefoulwall: you?
07:04.30SunuThePiratebaba: Cpython?
07:04.39babahmm
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07:04.53SunuThePirateI'm with OpenHatch :)
07:04.58foulwallSunuThePirate: I mean the archiever
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07:05.11SunuThePiratefoulwall: Oh!
07:05.12babakenzo450D: India
07:05.16babakenzo450D: you ?
07:05.28kenzo450Dsame here, India :P
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07:05.46SunuThePirateMeh... lots of Indians here :) Me too B)
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07:06.43fewchavalorie: hi
07:07.04valoriehi fewcha
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07:07.21fewchavalorie: I am also a student, contributing to KDE
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07:07.40fewchavalorie: DId you go through the proposals on Marble?
07:07.49valorieno, sorry
07:08.04valorieI tried to stick with ones where I could comment intelligently
07:08.22fewchavalorie: oh, that's okay :)
07:08.25valorieI have in the past helped students who asked me for help on their proposals
07:08.36valoriebut no one asked me for help this year
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07:09.01valorieI can't tell you anything of consequence anyway
07:09.04valorie:-)
07:09.13valoriebesides: good luck!
07:09.20fewchavalorie: ya, although it's very difficult to wait btw :)
07:09.29fewchavalorie: thanks :)
07:10.01valorieI know
07:10.06valoriesooon.....
07:10.10valorie!countdown
07:10.11gsocbotvalorie: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4
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07:10.33valorieonly 709 minutes!
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07:10.48fewchayes :'(
07:11.07kenzo450Dcould you please calm down with the numbers! :P already scared :P
07:11.41SunuThePirateEverybody needs a chill pill.
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07:12.01fewchakenzo450D: you're gonna get it. valorie said "great project" :)
07:12.23valorieby which I mean digiKam
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07:12.38valorieas i said, I haven't read the proposals there
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07:13.08kaifewcha: valorie has been doing gsoc for quite a while and I'm sure is well aware that we're not allowed to say anything about specific proposals
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07:13.52fewchakai: yeah that I'm aware of. I'm just trying to release the tension :)
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07:15.07valorietickles the nervous students
07:15.14*** topic/#gsoc by kai -> Google Summer of Code 2013 is on!
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07:33.28holauanyone any suggestions on what to do while waiting fr results ? really stressed , need help here :-(
07:34.26kai!patience | holau
07:34.27gsocbotholau: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
07:34.33kaias a suggestion we usually give
07:35.02kaiholau: personally, if you're into electronics, get an arduino and make LEDs blink :)
07:36.00holaukai, hehe, i just finished with my arduino exam last semester :-)
07:36.28SunuThePirateWhoa! you have arduino exams at uni? Cool.
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07:38.56waitingForResult11 hours! *biting nails*
07:39.27kaiholau: well, then you've got all the know-how to make LEDs blink in a really fancy pattern :)
07:39.39aciidLOL
07:40.09waitingForResultWhy couldn't it have been 7:00 AM UTC! :(
07:40.13holau:-D
07:40.35aciidwaitingForResult: then this conversation would have been taking place 11 hrs ago :P
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07:40.49waitingForResult:p
07:41.07waitingForResultI so wish time travel were a reality
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07:41.17holauwaitingForResult, dr. who ?
07:41.30kaiwaitingForResult: also, the people who flip the switch are on US pacific time
07:41.36kaiand by people, I mean Carol
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07:41.37valoriedo I hear the Tardis?
07:41.43aciidits difficult but we've all waited this long , whats another 11 hrs :)
07:41.44jjs1inserts joke about travelling through time in one direction
07:41.46valoriewhoosh, whoosh, whoosh
07:41.46waitingForResultholau: Yup.'
07:42.03waitingForResult@kai:  US Pacific time same as EST?
07:42.04holauvalorie, yeah ! sure wud love the tardis now !
07:42.16aciidbut that'll be cheating :<
07:42.21kaiwaitingForResult: no EST is the other ocean
07:42.45valoriePacific time: PST, or PDT (now)
07:43.23waitingForResult@kai: Damn, the timezones have me so confused. I have three timezones on my watch. IST (Own), UTC (melange), and EST (mentor's) .. :p
07:43.57kaiwaitingForResult: yeah, working on open source is fun that way
07:44.21kaiin 2005, I had two mentors, one of them in california, one of them in australia, and I was sitting in europe
07:44.40waitingForResult@kai: It sure is. :D  ... I have learnt more in the past one month than in the past year.
07:44.42kaigetting enough time overlap for IRC meetings was "fun"
07:44.45valorieemail is good....
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07:45.19holauvalorie, i also prefer the email
07:45.35valorieit's easy to refer to
07:46.27holaui still haven't for once talked to my mentor on irc , i guess that ain't a big issue
07:46.48holauis it ? coz i have been in touch with him only through e-mail
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07:47.38holauwaitingForResult, org ?
07:48.37waitingForResultholau: NESCent
07:49.21waitingForResultholau: you?
07:50.02holaulibreoffice
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07:51.15holauwaitingForResult, guessing by ur nick u really want the results soon , don't you ?
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07:53.41waitingForResultholau: :D  ... vacations.. nothing to do.. eagerly waiting to start working
07:54.06|Kev|There's lots of do. Lots of open source code that isn't going to write itself.
07:54.10holauvalorie, will the students receive an email notifying them they aren't selected  ?
07:54.14|Kev|Yes.
07:54.35valorieyup
07:54.41valorieeveryone gets an email
07:55.27holauwaitingForResult, okay so when did u last talked to ur mentor ?
07:57.37SunuTheNinjaArrrg! I hate character limits :-|
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07:58.06waitingForResultholau: A couple of days back. Why?
07:59.23waitingForResult|kev|: By working, I meant on the project, actively. Meanwhile, I am already doing the required research for the project.
07:59.58holauwaitingForResult, no coz i last talked to him 5 days back and i thot i'm the only one who hasn't been in touch with his mentor for such a long time
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08:01.02waitingForResultholau: What worries me most is that I didn't get any comment activity on my proposal after 9th May. Total radio-silence.
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08:03.02SunuTheNinjathat doesn't matter. Mine had no activity either until I got duplicated.
08:03.24holauwell 9th may is good coz the last comment activity since 2nd may
08:03.42holaui had the last comment on 2nd may
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08:04.03holauSunuTheNinja, how did u come to knw u are duplicated ?
08:04.08SunuTheNinjaIf you have done the proposal in detail and discussed it with your mentor before, you are good!
08:04.26fewchafewcha: mine got no activity whatsoever, only some valuable comments by my mentor given in pm
08:04.34SunuTheNinjaBecause my orgs contacted me to say so, and asked me to choose :-)
08:05.09holauSunuTheNinja, so u already knw that u r gonna get selected :-)
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08:05.41waitingForResultSunuTheNinja: Lucky you!
08:05.49SunuTheNinjaYep :-) and the org too XD
08:06.05waitingForResulthaha
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08:06.53waitingForResult10 more hours.
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08:07.47waitingForResultShould start a LOTR movie marathon or something. 10 hours will fly. :D
08:08.02zero_levelwaitingForResult : are u an autobot
08:08.14SunuTheNinja1 LOTR movie = 4 hours
08:08.27zero_levelupdating us every hour, thanks
08:08.29SunuTheNinjaso no way you can finish all 3 :-P
08:09.09waitingForResultzero_level: Autobots, recon!
08:09.26SunuTheNinjawaitingForResult: Any plans to go to pycon India?
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08:09.44SunuTheNinjahas been asking this question to a lot of people lately :-|
08:10.23waitingForResultSunuTheNinja: Will have college then. Surely will go if time premits.
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08:10.56Saurabhhie
08:12.20fewchaSaurabh: hi
08:12.35fewchaSaurabh: are you from NIT?
08:13.01Saurabhno, I am actually from a pretty unknown college. I have participated this year with Sympy org
08:13.10Saurabh:)
08:13.31fewchaSaurabh: whoops, sorry, mistook you for someone else :)
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08:13.55fewchaSaurabh: cool! Best of luck for the results then :)
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08:14.21holauwaitingForResult, like u said abt ur comment activity on the proposal , when did u submit ut proposal ?
08:14.25Saurabhno issues. just getting nervous about the deadline. do you know how many slots the orgs got this year. I suppose they are confidential
08:14.30babafewcha: what's up with the college, :P :D
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08:15.02waitingForResultholau: 28th I guess
08:15.25fewchababa: well, nothing.. actually I know someone named saurabh araiyer from our college, so thought that maybe he is him
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08:16.00fewchaSaurabh: Well yes they are indeed confidential
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08:16.24Saurabhcool. Have to play the waiting game then. Which org are you applying?
08:16.27holauwaitingForResult, and what is the number of comments u received (if u don't mind telling )?
08:16.35fewchaSaurabh: KDE
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08:16.57Saurabhfewcha: cool best of luck :)
08:17.09fewchaSaurabh: thanks
08:17.12fewcha:)
08:17.21fewchasame to you :)
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08:18.00Saurabhfewcha: thanks. I think I may not get the result exactly on the time. Server is pretty overloaded on result time.
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08:18.47waitingForResultholau: 5
08:19.27fewchawaitingForResult: whoa! that's a huge number!
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08:20.26holauSaurabh, but you will get a mail
08:21.24holauwaitingForResult, including ur own comments too ?
08:21.49waitingForResultholau: Mine makes that seven.
08:22.28holauwaitingForResult, that's great :-) , i see u might have a strong chance of getting through
08:22.38babafewcha: yes it happens that we sometimes find our friend over here
08:22.58Saurabhholou: I know from last year that the mail is one hour after deadline. We would better check half an hour after deadline.
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08:23.06fewchababa: :)
08:23.07Saurabhon google-melange.com
08:23.39waitingForResultholau: Hope so! Fingers crossed! :)
08:23.43Saurabhfewcha: sorry the comment was for holau
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08:27.53holauallright a bit off-topic but what would you guys suggest for the students who don't make it to gsoc this year ?
08:28.39kaiholau: well, if you have the time, still get involved with open source
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08:29.23babait's for sure last 15-20 min adrenaline would be running very high !!
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08:30.09kaithe real win of gsoc is getting involved in the community and learning great new stuff
08:30.20kaino real reason why you really need gsoc for that
08:30.54kaiapart from obviously having more time to flip code if you don't need to also flip burgers
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08:31.28holaukai, flip bits i guess
08:32.33kaiholau: "Flip code, not burgers" was the inofficial tagline of one of the early gsocs
08:32.41valoriesome projects have things that go alongside GSoC
08:32.50valoriefor instance, KDE has Season of KDE
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08:33.03valorieno money, but there is a tshirt and cert. at the end
08:33.13valorieso you get credit and mentoring
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08:33.32kaisome smaller projects don't have a formal process there, but usually they'll be happy to mentor you if you're genuinely interested
08:33.37valorieI understand some other projects also run such programs
08:34.50holauokay thanks :-)
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08:35.53holauwaitingForResult, fewcha , Saurabh , baba : hope u get through , all the best for the results :-)
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08:36.21akif500best of luck to all :D
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08:36.33holauand SunuTheNinja : as u already got selected , wish u all the best for the project :-)
08:36.39Saurabhthanks. Best of luck to all of you! :)
08:36.54waitingForResult10 hours 23 minutes!
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08:38.03AndreiDumawaitingForResult: you're really waiting those results :P
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08:38.35AndreiDumayou're the most passionate counter
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08:40.33waitingForResultAndreiDuma. :D
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08:44.02yausndoasnd!next
08:44.03gsocbotyausndoasnd: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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08:44.36yausndoasndDo we get mail of rejection?
08:44.46AndreiDumayausndoasnd: yes
08:45.01AndreiDumaso, no matter what, we still get something
08:45.03AndreiDuma:P
08:45.18yausndoasnd:D
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08:48.13babaSunuTheNinja: you already got selected ?
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08:51.21akif500he would have got the info leaked
08:51.47waitingForResultbaba: SunuTheNinja was duplicated. So he knows.
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08:52.04akif500hahaha
08:52.10babaSunuTheNinja: that calls for party
08:52.15akif500have fun ninja
08:52.15waitingForResult10 HOURS!
08:52.15babawaitingForResult: wow that's cool
08:52.17akif500:)
08:52.38babaSunuTheNinja: which org are you finalized with ?
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08:54.03valoriehe might think he knows, and he might be right, but no one know for SURE until the emails arrive in 10 hours or so
08:55.08waitingForResult605 minutes.
08:55.21froggylast time the email arrived hours earlier due to some error , so no fixed time :P
08:55.45akif500last time there was also a blank mail day ago
08:55.46akif500:D
08:55.54froggy:D
08:56.09Guest4622What does that mean? "blank mail?
08:56.22akif500nothing it was just a bug
08:56.25froggyeven google / melange has issues
08:56.27froggybugs
08:56.44froggyit can provide a decent enough project
08:56.48froggyfor soc
08:56.54akif500the whole world is full of bugs  nothing is bug free
08:57.05swookgoogle is not melange
08:57.06froggyimperfections
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08:58.03froggyswook : ok
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08:59.01swookbtw, for anyone speaking about loss of contact since hand-in, I wouldn't worry. It might just be their selection process.
08:59.07babaeven humans are full of bugs :P
08:59.26swookI personally haven't had contact either and was worried
08:59.36froggyNow dis discussion has just given me a startup idea :D
08:59.45froggyie bugs, imperfections
08:59.47Guest4622NIce :)
08:59.49froggy:P
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09:00.26AndreiDuma"ie" as in Internet Explorer? :D
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09:00.38froggy:D
09:00.39akif500hahahaha
09:00.40Guest4622So if your project is accepted, they send you an email? or do they do that either way?
09:00.41froggyhahaha
09:00.45froggyhahahaha
09:00.53froggypoor MS
09:00.54valorieGuest4622: yes
09:01.00akif500you get an email and the list is uploaded on website
09:01.05swookGuest4622: we will all get emails around 1900 GMT
09:01.06swook!next
09:01.08gsocbotswook: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
09:01.13faneeither way
09:01.16aciidI was told by an ex student that you get an email if you're selected or not
09:01.28valorieevery proposal will have a response
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09:01.29Guest4622Oh cool thanks :D
09:01.39kainote that if you sent multiple proposals, you will get "rejected" emails for all the proposals that didn't make it
09:01.39valorieif you made 4, you will get 4 emails
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09:03.51froggyAndreiDuma: We have all used IE :D with its imperfections and idiotic nature to download chrome :D
09:04.16chetna!logs
09:04.16gsocbotchetna: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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09:04.31AndreiDumafroggy: actually, I used "pacman -S chromium" :D
09:05.18AndreiDumaIE's fault is not that it exists. It's that it's actually _used_
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09:05.30AndreiDumaweb dev is harder because of it
09:05.38c4nn1b4l!timer
09:05.45babachetna: good morning
09:05.46AndreiDuma!countdown
09:05.47gsocbotAndreiDuma: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4
09:05.48baba:P
09:05.53c4nn1b4lthanks :)
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09:05.56akif500not if you use Linux
09:05.59AndreiDumac4nn1b4l: :)
09:06.00froggyhahahahha ok ok . me i am a gamer ! I used windows throughout but when it comes to work its never windows !
09:06.04akif500you get mozilla firefox with it
09:06.06chetnababa : hehe :P
09:06.19froggywindows for me exists for games only
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09:07.07froggyand yes i suffered in web dev because none of the apps will run on IE in dev stage .. i mean generally speaking :)
09:07.11chetnababa: u didn't sleep the entire nite ?
09:08.02babachetna: slept for around 2-3 hours
09:08.23babawas unable to sleep :D
09:09.15chetnaohhh., i finally grabbed some sleep around 10 in the morning :P
09:09.58babahe he he
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09:10.26baba9 hours, 49 minutes remaining
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09:10.36AndreiDumayou're insane.
09:10.40froggy:D
09:10.44babayeah i am :D
09:10.58yausndoasndthe rejection mail will come from google/melange or from organization?
09:11.03AndreiDumaand I'm insaner, because I'm watching you :P
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09:11.06froggyorg
09:11.27babaAndreiDuma: :P :P
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09:11.39AndreiDumait should come from melange
09:11.41AndreiDumadoesn't it?
09:11.52froggyforgot !!
09:11.57kaiall the notifications come from melange
09:12.04qwebirc1266049 hours 47 minutes!
09:12.29AndreiDuma9 hours 47 minutes 43 seconds
09:12.34froggyomg
09:12.37chetnayausndoasnd : how does it really matter .. something more imp would be that we are REJECTED
09:12.38AndreiDuma9 hours 47 minutes 35 seconds
09:12.41froggy:D
09:12.42kaiok, please...
09:12.46akif500dude you going insaane
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09:12.47AndreiDuma9 hours 47 minutes 28 seconds
09:12.56AndreiDumaok, I stop.
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09:13.03valorieyou'll probably get emails from your orgs as well
09:13.04froggyAndreiDuma : u are giving me cancer :D
09:13.05kaistop doing the countdowns in that frequency, or I'll have to do something :)
09:13.09AndreiDumait was an "apropos" to the other dudes
09:13.14yausndoasndchetna: yes :'(
09:13.20waitingForResult@kai: :D Sorry.
09:13.27kai!countdown
09:13.29gsocbotkai: "countdown" is http://goo.gl/ocEn4
09:13.42kaiI'll put that in the topic
09:14.25chetna+1 @kai
09:14.26*** topic/#gsoc by kai -> Google Summer of Code 2013 is on! | If you feel you need a countdown for the announcement, see http://goo.gl/ocEn4
09:14.47kaiI'll put that in the topic. | Please don't spam the channel with countdowns.
09:14.50kaier
09:15.06*** topic/#gsoc by kai -> Google Summer of Code 2013 is on! | If you feel you need a countdown for the announcement, see http://goo.gl/ocEn4 | Please don't spam the channel with countdowns.
09:15.11kaithere
09:15.16yausndoasndthanks @kai
09:15.25chetnathanks kai
09:15.44kaimaking anybody even more nervous doesn't help
09:16.05kaibut I can't keep an eye on the channel all day, and I don't want to mute it (just yet)
09:16.51prasoon2211_kai : exactly. I am doing some work while I wait but everytime I open the channel,
09:16.58prasoon2211_I see all these hysterical people
09:17.04prasoon2211_:D
09:17.39AndreiDumaprasoon2211_: you're not the only one. I'll fail my exam tomorrow if I keep this tab open.
09:17.39babakai: the channel will be muted one hour before  the announcement ?
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09:18.09prasoon2211_AndreiDuma : Lucky me, exams over
09:18.24babait seems we all are suffering from OCD :D
09:18.34animatoramen to that
09:18.41babayesterday i got my resutls
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09:19.13prasoon2211_^The rest of us will get them today :)
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09:19.48fanethats why the call you baba :-)
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09:24.03akif500indians may join ##gsoc-india
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09:24.11akif500the channel for indian gsoccers
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09:24.33kaibaba: well, we never plan to mute the channel, just sometimes if things get too exited we have to
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09:25.45waitingForResultAny idea how many proposals were received this year?
09:25.59nccuong10000?
09:26.14kailess than last year, I'd bet
09:26.16kai!stats
09:26.17gsocbotkai: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
09:26.19kaihm
09:26.23kai!statistics
09:26.23gsocbotkai: "statistics" is see !numapps
09:26.28kai!numapps
09:26.28gsocbotkai: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
09:26.37kaiwe need real links in the factoids
09:26.57kaibut then I need loop detection...
09:27.27qmaruf!countdown
09:27.28gsocbotqmaruf: "countdown" is see the topic
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09:28.08babafane: result of my college dude...as everyone were talking about exams going on .
09:28.14babafane: :D :D
09:28.50kaiso anyhow, unless we got a huge increase of students again, I'd guess no more than 7000 proposals
09:29.10kaiseeing how the maximum number of proposals per student dropped from 20 to 5
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09:29.47babakai: yeah that is understandable :)
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09:30.13babafor the muting of the channel. ( this is not for your above post )
09:30.30kaiof course we can wait for some more weeks until google puts the stats on the ospo blog, and then we'll know
09:30.40fanebaba oh alright :-)
09:30.46babafane: :)
09:31.39fane@kai 5999
09:32.02fanejust a guess :-)
09:34.35faneactually thats not a guess, I saw carols mention that number somewhere. could be less now due to withdrawals.
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09:58.48rihnapstorsunumonster:
10:00.09AndreiDuma9 hours     <-  spam
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10:00.42waitingForResultAndreiDuma: That was supposed to be my thing. :p
10:00.58AndreiDumawaitingForResult: you get the even hours, I get the odd ones :P
10:01.54waitingForResultAndreiDuma. Done. :p
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10:09.37swookI would lower expectations to reduce possible disappointment and devastation. That's what I'm trying to do... though not very successfully...
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10:14.00holauhi ! any anxious students out there awaiting the results ?
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10:15.25Vader066swook: I'm doing that too :)
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10:22.50swookholau: Yesterday, you mentioned not hearing from the org since hand-in. I wouldn't worry about that.
10:22.58swookI haven't heard anything either.
10:23.13swookI got a subtle and positive hint a day ago via irc though
10:23.17swookbut trying not to get too hopeful
10:23.31waitingForResultswook: Duplicated?
10:23.36swookno not at all
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10:26.26SunuTheNinjaI am going to fail my exam tomorrow :-|
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10:28.08faustHow do we know if we are accepted?
10:28.35gevaertsDepends. Right now, you're not
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10:28.51|Kev|And once you are, you get an email.
10:28.55gevaertsApart from that, you'll get an email around 19:00 UTC
10:29.13gevaertsWell, you get one email per proposal you submitted
10:29.25gevaertsYou'll also be able to check on melange
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10:29.51faustso I'll get the email whether I was accepted or not
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10:29.58|Kev|Yes.
10:30.02faustthank you
10:30.14swookI find it's such a shame the channel only gets activity around deadlines...
10:30.25swookI hope this can be a place for GSoC students to communicate during GSoC
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10:32.01faustprobably, due to the variety of projects in gsoc, the only things that we all have in common are deadlines.
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10:33.21swookI think interest in open source and a GSoC experience are pretty massive things to have in common
10:33.28bha1!next
10:33.29gsocbotbha1: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
10:33.42bha1!logs
10:33.42gsocbotbha1: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
10:33.55bha1!numapps
10:33.56gsocbotbha1: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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10:45.51holauswook, why wouldn't u worry abt the orgs not responding after the hand-in ?
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10:46.11jojva`swook: when discussions start to be off-topic, the irc managers stop us. We did talk about C/C++ differences a few weeks earlier here, it was very interesting. But if other students come to ask gsoc-specific questions they don't get noticed.. That's why.
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10:48.06AchillionLast night we were talking about Linux distros. >.> I guess it's ok to be offtopic when there's nothing else to talk about
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10:48.42faustsomeone here applied to gentoo?
10:48.50kai!anyone | faust
10:48.51gsocbotfaust: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://goo.gl/yxeB0
10:48.59kaihm, ok, not quite :)
10:49.10faustit was just for speaking...
10:50.09holau|Kev|, as u said earlier that we will get a mail once we are accepted , is there any chance by which an accepted student receives the mail before 19:00 UTC ?
10:50.31faustholau: you can try to bribe kai
10:50.39holauswook, are you duplicated ?
10:50.48bha1holau, there was a bug last time which leaked the results a few days earlier
10:51.02|Kev|holau: It'll be around the announced time, may be slightly earlier, slightly later.
10:51.05bha1nothing of that sort has happened this time
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10:51.30holauoh ! how much i wish i could re-introduce that bug :D
10:51.45yashshahHi guys
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10:51.51holauthis might be one bug that gsoc aspirants would not solve
10:51.51yashshahThere is one good news for all
10:51.59yashshahi have found a bug on melange
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10:52.55waitingForResutyashshag: and that is?
10:53.01yashshahnow everyone can know whether they are selected or not
10:53.09AndreiDumayashshah: right.
10:53.11fewchayashshah: how?
10:53.27fewchaAndreiDuma: how?
10:53.29yashshahjust not sure, shall i tell it here in public or not?
10:53.33Achillionmaybe you should inform #melange about it?
10:54.03AndreiDumaeveryone just became super nervous now :P
10:54.17|Kev|No, I really didn't :p
10:54.28kaifaust: sure, but I'd say if you want to talk about gentoo, talk in the gentoo IRC channels
10:54.48kaifaust: hang out in your community. :)
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10:55.27yashshahno i am not kidding it is absolutely true, just not sure whether shall i report it here or not.
10:55.31kaithat said, bribing me won't help as I have no influence whatsoever on how melange and gsoc are run
10:55.45kaiunless you count writing bug reports
10:55.47AndreiDumayashshah: here, obviously
10:55.51|Kev|yashshah: If you really have found such an issues, no, you shouldn't repeat it here.
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10:56.05AndreiDumadamn
10:56.06|Kev|I'd wait until after the announcements, and then report it in #melange.
10:56.11kaiand the bug report about delaying result announcements hasn't been accepted
10:56.29olly_it's still possible for the status of a student to change
10:56.44olly_so even if you can peek now, it's not 100% definite
10:56.55kai!bug
10:56.56gsocbotkai: "bug" is file melange feature requests & bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue
10:57.11|Kev|But I wouldn't file it until after the announcements.
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10:57.25faust:P
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10:58.04AchillionI'd report it to a melange @op now
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10:58.20kaiinteresting, there's no way to file a security-related bug there that's not public
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10:58.59kaiyashshah: but yes, in the interest of responsible disclosure, I'd not make it public now
10:59.10yashshahkai: +1
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10:59.13_baba_hey what is it ?
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11:00.10swookholau: no I'm not duplicated. I'm probably being too optimistic about a short conversation I had with someone from my org :)
11:00.15swookI'm just saying that you shouldn't worry
11:02.14faustsilly question: if google has already decided who is accepted and who is not...why should we wait 8 hours to find out?
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11:02.35_baba_faust: correct
11:02.40sathyam!logs
11:02.40gsocbotsathyam: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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11:04.15holaufaust, well i can't but agree with u :)
11:04.37swook...
11:04.45swookgoogle does not decide who the orgs accept or not
11:04.51olly_faust: it'd not finalised until the announcement
11:04.59swookA deadline exists so decisions can be altered before then.
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11:05.55holauswook, i knw i shouldn't worry but can't help it , anything positive i should expect ?
11:07.10swookI'm just a fellow student and don't know more than you do :)
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11:07.26OviliaIt would be 3a.m. in my timezone when results come out... Wondering if I should stay awake for it...
11:07.49swookyashshah: darnit I'm looking through the developer console on melange to see if I can find a way and it's all your fault! :P
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11:08.47kaosswook: you'd have to think "outside the box"... ;)
11:09.21|Kev|I suggest that the topic is inappropriate at best, and should be dropped.
11:09.28waitingForResut8 hours!
11:09.40AndreiDumawaitingForResut: :D
11:09.49AndreiDumayou missed it a bit :P
11:10.24waitingForResutAndreiDuma. Yes, 10 minutes. :D
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11:11.23kaiOvilia: I'd say don't. If there's some technical issues, you'll stay up for nothing
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11:12.18Oviliakai: Yeah, I'm just kidding =D
11:12.39Oviliakai: But I do fail to sleep quite often.
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11:13.27faustjack'); select * from students where accepted=1; --
11:13.30faust:P
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11:16.36kaiok, anyway, I'll put the foot down now. Please refrain from discussing how to break into melange until the results are announced, and then only do so in #melange, using your own instance of the software
11:16.56kaiviolators will be muted or kicked.
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11:19.23bha1IMHO, hacking should be encouraged as long as they are not malicious like DROPping tables and messing with data. That way bugs will be discovered, and fixed, and skills learnt
11:19.34bha1but thats just my opinion.
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11:21.26elixirbha1: may be its a bug, not hack!
11:21.42vedanthey olivia. will u able to get sleep knowing the results are comnig out?
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11:23.12sunumonster!cookie
11:23.12gsocbotsunumonster: "cookie" is omnomnom
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11:23.23vedantwaitingForResut: you actually picked a name just for this? and you know you have miss-spelt it :P
11:24.07waitingForResutvedant: Damn, didn't realise it.
11:24.12Oviliavedant: Also possible to fail to sleep since I would be too excided to sleep
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11:24.43kaibha1: I'm not against hacking. I'm against discussing how to break into melange to see things that will be announced later today
11:24.53Oviliavedant: But thanks for that anyway =D
11:25.15vedantOlivia: oh yes. fear and excitement
11:25.39OviliaAnyway, it's only less than 8 hours. Since we have waited for so long, I guess I can wait =D
11:25.55vedantOlivia: but it will be a bit easier for me since in my local time it is 12:30am
11:26.13sunumonsterThere will be so many heart breaks tonight
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11:26.54vedantsunumonster: yes. approximately 1 in 6 proposals was selected last year
11:27.03waitingForResultAnd now it's corrected. :D
11:27.11waitingForResultI meant my nick.
11:27.19vedantgood!
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11:27.46sunumonsterWe need lots of glue to stick the pieces together
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11:28.56vedantsunumonster: you are talking as if you are waiting for a yes from a girl u have just proposed :D
11:29.40waitingForResultWell, to be fair, we have all proposed, and are waiting for acceptance. :D
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11:30.01sunumonsterHah true
11:30.30kaigood grief....
11:30.49vedantyes. and kai why are u sighing?
11:30.53gevaertspats kai on the back
11:31.02gevaertsThey'll calm down by tomorrow!
11:31.07swookkai: you probably haven't seen the worst yet ;)
11:31.18bha1haha, actually, it is hardly heartbreaks. Most people who have put decent effort into it do get selected.
11:31.20gevaertsAnd hopefully they'll learn how to spell "you" by then too
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11:31.45kaigevaerts: I'm positive on the former, but pessimistic on the latter
11:32.00vedanti'm sure very few have hanged out on this channel so much as we are now :D
11:32.15gevaertskai: you shouldn't complain. You can kick them! ;)
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11:32.36gevaertsvedant: I've been hanging out here since 2009
11:33.03kaigevaerts: now you make me feel old...
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11:33.14vedantgevaets: i was talking about the most people who are biting their nails waiting for the result in this last moment
11:33.14gevaertsSorry!
11:33.32kaivedant: actually, this happens every year
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11:34.10vedantkai: yes. its expected. I'm one of them right now. for the first time
11:34.12gevaertskai: I bet I'm still older than you in real years though
11:34.23gevaertsalso often feels old
11:34.23kaivedant: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=611
11:34.36sunumonsterKai see http://www.quora.com/India/What-is-the-most-essential-quality-which-should-be-possessed-by-Indian-youth
11:34.58kaigevaerts: granted :)
11:35.23kaigevaerts: I just was thinking that I probably have ops in here since ~2007-2008
11:35.41gevaertsYes. You *are* one of the channel elders :)
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11:35.42sunumonsterI am hanging out here since 8 months..
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11:35.53vedantkai: it is really hilarious. You think its vaible to be implemented?
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11:36.53kaisunumonster: I can only read the first answer, but I fullheartedly agree with that one ;)
11:37.31kaiI have vague memories of there being another channel in 2005 and then moving here in 2006
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11:39.21kaivedant: sadly it's a WontFix, apparently
11:39.55kaigevaerts: I think I just successfully managed to avoid growing up so far
11:40.10gevaertsIt'll catch up with you!
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11:40.17vedantkai: its sad right? :D
11:40.24kaigevaerts: webchick is a mom now, I can see why she'd have better things to do :)
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11:40.55gevaertsYes. It's sad how we lose people to better things in real life
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11:42.37kaiyeah, funny how that keeps happening
11:42.52guest009!next
11:42.54gsocbotguest009: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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11:43.54guest009Ooooops, that's just a few hours to !next
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11:50.20holaui cant help looking up my horoscope for today
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11:50.31Achillion-.-
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11:57.22waitingForResultAndreiDuma: you are up.
11:57.31AndreiDuma:D
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11:59.12AndreiDuma7 hours left! :)
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12:05.05aried3r!countdown
12:05.05pcoderQuestion: Does anyone know of a common blog from the past accepted student's experiences? Nice time to read them.
12:05.07gsocbotaried3r: "countdown" is see the topic
12:05.26Achillionhm ... p-coder or pc-oder?
12:06.08|Kev|I'd have thought in here a nick about coding would be more likely than a nick about rivers.
12:06.38pcoderAchilliion: ... A-chillion or AChil-lion?? Its pcoder for me :)
12:06.52roonyHpcoder: http://melange-dev.blogspot.com/
12:07.07roonyHthis blog has past experience of students of melange
12:07.09Achillionpcoder: touche
12:07.17pcoderroonyH: Thanks
12:07.56roonyHI found posts written by current mentors when they were students :)
12:08.45|Kev|Sure. Mine are probably still up somewhere.
12:09.01|Kev|The Internet has a long memory.
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12:12.47roonyH|Kev|: it sure does :)
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12:13.29roonyHand actually it is possible that this year I am a student and in the next I am a mentor. isn't it
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12:44.20gsocbotjkremser: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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12:58.50AchillionWelp, I'm off. Might be back on tonight for the announcement time but if not, good luck to all
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12:59.52elixirexact 6 hours!
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13:00.14ManojKumarAchillion: To you too :)
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13:45.08breton18:44 in my timezone, can I get my results in 20 minuts ktxbye?
13:45.29ansimionescubreton: lol, I don't think it works like that :D
13:45.32gevaertsI suspect you can still withdraw your proposal, so yes
13:45.46gevaertsBut only if you want the result to be "No, you don't get in"
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13:46.03ansimionescuOr you can bribe the right people *evil laugh*
13:46.17gevaertsGood luck with that
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13:46.40gevaertsThat could well convince some people to change the selection at te last moment...
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13:47.00ansimionescu^_^
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13:57.06waitingForResultAndreiDuma: you are up. :D
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14:01.04banaswaitingForResult: You sure are waitingForResult, aren't you? :P
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14:03.12waitingForResultbanas: I hear that quite a lot. :D
14:03.18elixirwaitingForResult: you're an infinite loop in yourself, by calling yourself iteratively :P
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14:03.54waitingForResultelixir: Not infinite, 4 iterations left. :D
14:04.28elixirwaitingForResult: loops aren't in hours, why not count them in nanosecs ;)
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14:06.55gevaertselixir: maybe waitingForResult is a bit slow :)
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14:08.44elixirgevaerts: :D
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14:10.53gary_b4 hours, 50 minutes....
14:10.55elixirMy heartbeats are getting inversely proportional to | 1900 UTC ~ present time | !
14:11.17ManojKumaris anyone feeling nervous?
14:11.40gary_byea
14:11.42ansimionescuOf course :d
14:11.49elixirgary_b: imagine when only 50 mins left ;)
14:12.03SunuTheNinjawaitingForResu is waitingForResult
14:12.07ManojKumarelixir: I'll suffer from a heart attack
14:12.24gary_bbut ive also wondered, if i accidentally hit the button and withdrew my proposal, would i be able to hit it again to resubmit?
14:12.46breton% date: Mon May 27 19:12:38 UZT 2013
14:12.54bretoncan i get my results pl0x?
14:12.55elixirManojKumar: plz don't if possible ;)
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14:13.00bretonktxbye
14:13.11waitingForResultgary_b: Why not try it? :
14:13.17gary_bheh
14:13.26waitingForResult:p
14:13.38ManojKumargary_b : of all the times possible, now? :P
14:13.49elixirgary_b: the best way to learn something *new* is try yourself :P
14:13.51ManojKumarelixir: haha
14:13.55prasoon2211_Hysterical people all over the place :D
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14:14.07prasoon2211_go watch a movie or something people
14:14.15gary_bi could potentially have a nice TIL for reddit
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14:14.35gary_balong the lines of TIL: i am an idiot...
14:14.37elixirprasoon2211: can we start with you first :P
14:14.41roonyHI wish IPL final were today.
14:15.02elixirprasoon2211_ ^^
14:15.17prasoon2211_elixir, start what? movies? I am going for a walk outside anyway :)
14:15.26elixirroonyH: anyways twas a spoilt match
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14:16.04elixirprasoon2211_: hehe, good for health, I'd prefer movies anyways ;)
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14:20.49pcoderroonyH: Go for an action replay :)
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14:23.04roonyHpcoder: Will you get the same excitement by viewing this long awaited e-mail tommorow?
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14:24.27ansimionescu!next
14:24.30gsocbotansimionescu: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
14:25.15ansimionescu4h35' to go
14:25.28pcoderYes, if I was lost in the desert today :)
14:26.06roonyHpcoder: :)
14:26.32roonyHI wasn't lost in the dessert yesterday.
14:26.44roonyHunfortunately :)
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14:30.04pcoderroonyH: I am going through the part years logs, but its strange that I can't find the same anxiety that we have
14:30.15pcoderAre the logs later filtered?
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14:30.49ansimionescuYes all obscenities and memes are curated
14:31.07ansimionescuThere's a team of volunteers working round the clock on this
14:31.15GorillaWarfarepcoder: It's probably because they mute the channel around the time the decisions are released
14:31.16roonyHoh
14:31.30roonyHthey muted it after I guess
14:33.44_baba_!next
14:33.46gsocbot_baba_: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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14:35.07gsocbotpratnala: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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14:36.01edsiper4 hours...
14:37.11pratnalathe agony
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14:37.14pratnala!countdown
14:37.16gsocbotpratnala: "countdown" is see the topic
14:37.27pratnala!help countdown
14:37.27gsocbotpratnala: (countdown [<redirect>]) -- get the countdown for the next event
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14:37.54pratnala4 hours 22 minutes
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14:38.39ManojKumar!patience | pratnala
14:38.40gsocbotpratnala: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful.
14:39.23pratnala:P | ManojKumar
14:40.57Aayush251haha
14:41.11ManojKumar:p
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14:49.02pratnalawhy such a weird time . i will be sleeping at 1900 UTC :P
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14:49.41ManojKumarpratnala : where are you from?
14:49.43_baba_pratnala: it's even nice, you can have your result in the morning time :) no worried to wait and get tensed :D
14:49.51_baba_just go to sleep
14:49.52pratnalahaha
14:50.02pratnala@ManojKumar: India
14:50.22ManojKumarpratnala: You sleep at 12:30 o.O
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14:50.45pratnalawell i like sleeping early.
14:50.50pratnalaand getting up early
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14:51.00pratnalai wake up late, the weather is so damn hot
14:51.03dfighterpratnala it's such a weird time because it's Monday morning on the west coast of the USA
14:51.12pratnalai wake up early, a few hours of cool weather
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14:51.22pratnalahehe even better :P
14:51.29ManojKumarpratnala, oh cool, im used to sleeping late :p
14:51.39pratnalame 2 but not in summers :P
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14:51.50ManojKumar:)
14:51.50pratnalaespecially in places like hyderabad where i am for the holidays
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14:54.03_baba_pratnala: even i like to go to bed early and wake up around at 4 am but i always get late..
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14:56.51smspillazargh, the new byobu config strikes again
14:56.56smspillazhi all :)
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14:58.13pratnala4 am is too early now :P
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15:00.07_baba_pratnala: 4 am is a perfect time to start coding stuff. at that time conciousness level is highest.
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15:10.45pratnalahi smspillaz
15:12.01SunuTheNinja#gsoc-india is deserted :-|
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15:12.47waitingForResultSunuTheNinja: Because everyone is here! :D
15:12.52downeyputs the tea on
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15:14.38SunuTheNinjaShhh!! carols is here now.
15:14.50waitingForResultShhh..
15:15.04waitingForResultHello Carol.
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15:15.54carolshello.
15:15.56chetnawaves hello to carol :)
15:16.10MatthewWilkescarols!
15:16.17carolshi MatthewWilkes
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15:16.41kaicarols: welcome to the madhouse :)
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15:17.12MatthewWilkeshehe
15:17.19MatthewWilkesEspecially considering it should have been a day off
15:17.55kaiMatthewWilkes: it should?
15:18.04kaiMatthewWilkes: I'm sure my boss would disagree
15:18.17tnetennba!countdown
15:18.18gsocbottnetennba: "countdown" is see the topic
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15:18.44MatthewWilkeskai: It's a public holiday in the UK and the US today
15:18.58MatthewWilkeskai: We prefer to move ours to mondays to get long weekends
15:19.00kaiMatthewWilkes: what's it all about?
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15:19.45kaiMatthewWilkes: no wonder all those british bioinformatics people I follow have so much time to tweet and blog, though
15:19.58MatthewWilkeskai: The US is memorial day, civil war memorial. In the UK it's a replacement day for Fronleichnam, I think. At least, I assume it is, we just have them seemingly randomly, nobody really remembers the days they're based on.
15:20.16_baba_welcome carols :)
15:20.17MatthewWilkesI use the german word as I have no clue what it is in english
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15:22.50kaiMatthewWilkes: corpus cristi is whay my calender says ;)
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15:26.15pratnalawaves to carols and kai
15:26.21carolshi pratnala
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15:26.48pratnala3.5 hrs!
15:26.58downeycarols: privmsg?
15:27.11SunuTheNinjaand 4 minutes :-P
15:27.26carolsdowney: sure
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15:29.26kaiOk, I'll say this again...
15:29.57kaiPlease refrain from doing a public countdown in here. It's really annoying and doesn't help anybody
15:30.14kaithere's a perfectly fine countdown webpage for anybody who feels like they need a countdown
15:30.24kaiit's linked in the topic
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15:35.29Ash329hello
15:35.40pratnalahello Ash329
15:35.47pratnalabig day eh carols?
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15:35.59carolspratnala: yep, wish it was my holiday instead.
15:36.02pratnalais the list all ready or last minute adjustments going on?
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15:36.15pratnalaguess u r the only american here without a holiday :P
15:36.17carolslast minute adjustments are always going on.
15:36.23bha1a hectic monday for carols
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15:37.33pratnalalist will be out at 1900 UTC sharp?
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15:38.50babapratnala: semi-sharp :P
15:38.59SunuTheNinjaAre the proposals made public after the list is out?
15:38.59stefanhapratnala: You may not get a full refund if it's not published at 1900 UTC sharp, but maybe some tea ;-)
15:39.09pratnalalolz
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15:39.31pratnalathen i rather just sleep, and wake up in the morning for the results
15:39.37|Kev|That would be sensible.
15:39.53pratnalait is anyway past midnight at 1900 UTC here
15:39.55downeymmm tea
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15:42.18pratnalaserves tea to downey
15:42.27GorillaWarfareoffers her coffee to the channel
15:42.28downeythanks pratnala
15:42.51pratnalaasks GorillaWarfare if it is cold (the coffee)
15:43.05GorillaWarfareIt's still brewing in my french press as we speak
15:43.07GorillaWarfareSo no :P
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15:45.21kaipratnala: the announcements will be out at 1900 UTC sharp, with a measurement error of < 5% on a scale of the whole of gsoc ;)
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15:45.49pratnalahaha ok
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15:45.58pratnalaGorillaWarfare: I like my coffee cold
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15:46.08bretonit's 20:45 already, can I get my results?
15:46.12GorillaWarfarekai: What's that, 4 months? :P
15:46.14bretonoh, UTC.
15:46.18bretonI hate that UTC.
15:46.20ansimionescuWe defo need to do a G+ hangout party @19:00
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15:46.55pratnalahaha
15:47.06downeyansimionescu: You'd need about 100 of them to accommodate all the accepted students :)
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15:48.33pratnalaor increase hangouts capacity :P
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15:49.10ansimionescudowney: Doesn't matter. We must all get awkwardly drunk online after the announcements
15:49.10bha1hangouts is no longer xmpp :(
15:49.19pratnala:(
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15:49.35Turlbha1: I thought it still was, but just not federated
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15:49.44pratnalabha1: this is the wrong place to rant about google's products :P
15:50.02bha1yeah well.. GCM looks exiciting though
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15:50.15pratnalaGCM?
15:50.18marktraceurOr the *right* place. Lot of other places, your rants wouldn't reach anyone.
15:50.32bha1Google Cloud Messaging.
15:50.38bha1:D @ marktraceur
15:50.47pratnalaoooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh
15:51.17pratnalamarktraceur: what if we get banned :P
15:51.50Turlpratnala: I don't think anyone would ban you without an actual warning first
15:51.53pratnalafor example i hate how google voice search is only on chrome. i use firefox.
15:52.00kaiGorillaWarfare: something like that. but I'm pretty confident that today 19:00 UTC +- err will be the time of the announcement
15:52.15marktraceurpratnala: Banned for criticising a company on grounds of openness and interoperability in a channel about a free software outreach program would be a pretty good story to tell
15:52.24kaiand I'm also pretty confident that err will be less than 0.05 * len(gsoc)
15:52.40bha1haha
15:52.57Turlkai: gsoc page says 3h12m remaining
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15:53.30kaimarktraceur: then again, kicked out of the channel for being annoyingly off-topic in a busy channel is a pretty sad story to tell
15:53.40kai>:)
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15:53.47pratnalaor even about a youtube app on some platform :P
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15:54.12Turlmy main rant atm is that the new maps is completely unusable on firefox
15:54.25pratnalaand slow, very slow
15:54.31kaiand I mean it
15:54.57marktraceurkai: I think the folks in here could use some leeway about being off-topic for the next, say, three hours. :)
15:55.09pratnalaok i will stop off topic discussion then, big brother is angry now
15:55.15kaiand because I don't work for google, you can't even construct a conflict of interest there
15:55.21Turl(unusable as in actually broken, the map doesn't scroll or anything unless I disable webgl)
15:55.26bha1lets switch to #gsoc-offtopic :P
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15:55.47ansimionescuLolwut?
15:55.54ansimionescuThe new Google Maps screams
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15:56.09kaiTurl: please keep the off-topic conversations out of the channel
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15:56.32pratnalawhat did i just see now? Mode #gsoc +q Turl!*@* by kai
15:56.37pratnalawhat does that mean
15:56.42kaithat's a mute
15:56.44Turlpratnala: quiet (I cannot talk)
15:56.51pratnalau just did
15:56.54kaiso you still get to hang out here, but you don't get to talk
15:57.03pratnalaoh
15:57.06kaiTurl promised to behave, so I unmuted
15:57.12pratnalaoh
15:57.38ansimionescuGoogle's censorship at work (just. kidding.)
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15:58.10pratnalaansimionescu is next :P
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15:59.12waitingForResult3 hours left!    @kai: apologies. :)
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15:59.35ansimionescu!next
15:59.36gsocbotansimionescu: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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16:04.59gsocbothacklu_: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
16:05.21pratnalakai: u should probably ban !next too :P
16:05.30marktraceurPut it in the topic, maybe
16:05.33pratnalatoo many !next commands
16:05.36pratnalayeah good idea
16:05.52hacklu_sorry for this
16:06.14kaipratnala: just proves that bug 611 needs to be implemented
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16:12.22holau!countdown
16:12.23gsocbotholau: "countdown" is see the topic
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16:13.46JordiGHhas been following the Saga of Yash with keen interest.
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16:14.08ffledglingJordiGH, So have lots of other people :D
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16:15.03JordiGHI think it offers a unique insight into the psychology of so-called spam proposals.
16:15.40GorillaWarfareThe Saga of Yash?
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16:16.15ffledglingGorillaWarfare, https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/google-summer-of-code-discuss/pciKTLPRu0c
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16:16.25downeyLife's too short to worry about spam proposals.
16:16.48JordiGHdowney: It's purely academic interest. I can't think of how to fix spam proposals.
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16:26.09foulwalllionaneesh: countdown is http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=Accepted+students+announcement&day=27&month=05&year=2013&hour=19&min=00&sec=00&p0=0
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16:26.45AndreiDumawaitingForResult, I missed a few announcements, didn't I? :P
16:27.52waitingForResultAndreiDuma: I filled in. :D
16:27.58waitingForResultYou can take the next ones. :)
16:28.28AndreiDumawaitingForResult, thanks :P
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16:30.30babawaitingForResult: which annnouncements ?
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16:40.46AndreiDumababa, me and waitingForResult are responsible with announcing how many hours are left :P
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16:41.16babaAndreiDuma: cool
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16:45.39akif500u guys are the timer today :D
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16:52.48coolhello everyone
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16:53.17GorillaWarfareHello
16:53.27jjs1!countdown
16:53.28gsocbotjjs1: "countdown" is see the topic
16:53.43nlminhtlwhere is my time machine?
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16:54.00jjs1I've got a weeks worth of chat log in this window gsocbot >:C
16:54.02jbob!next
16:54.03gsocbotjbob: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
16:54.28nerdvana!next
16:54.29gsocbotnerdvana: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
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16:55.23jjs12 hours. Squee! :-O
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16:58.40babafeeling the heat..
16:58.58babareally now getting upto the extreme point
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16:59.29swookturn the gas down
17:00.44babaswook: let me know how :-O
17:01.03AndreiDuma2 hours left! :)
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17:01.11swookby turning the gas knob
17:01.11babaAndreiDuma: yeah..
17:01.17babaswook: :P
17:01.32swookit's your stove, stop asking me :P
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17:02.30waitingForResultAndreiDuma: :)
17:02.41fewchaany past gsoc-ers here?
17:02.48kblinsure
17:03.02fewchai mean, last year gsoc-ers :)
17:03.15kblinnow you're being ageist ;)
17:03.20AndreiDuma:))
17:03.29gevaertskblin: feeling old *again*? ;)
17:03.38kblingevaerts: still ;)
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17:03.57fewchakblin: gevaerts: you both have done GSoC how many tiimes?
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17:04.03|Kev|Look, I don't think anyone needs to feel old unless they've been in GSoC since 2005 or so.
17:04.12codercuberemember how last year mails erroneously where sent earlier?
17:04.13gevaertsI've been a mentor
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17:04.26fewchaokay
17:04.27|Kev|kblin: Did I help? :)
17:04.27waitingForResultI just got a mail from google!
17:04.27kblin|Kev|: bazinga?
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17:04.38|Kev|kblin: I have a t-shirt with that on. Two, actually.
17:04.53gevaertsremembers all sorts of stuff, including the year where some wrong emails were sent out
17:04.53AndreiDumawaitingForResult, ?!
17:04.54fewchawaitingForResult: you gotta be kidding, right?
17:04.58waitingForResultAh, it's just the account activity report. :D
17:05.01kblin|Kev|: you've got two t-shirts on? is it that cold?
17:05.08AndreiDumawaitingForResult, very funny :P
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17:05.16|Kev|kblin: Very droll.
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17:06.32fewchaclaps for waitingForResult 's aussum joke!
17:07.02waitingForResult*waitingForResult takes a now.
17:07.05waitingForResultbow*
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17:08.54kblinfewcha: three times as a student, as a mentor since
17:09.09fewchakblin: whoa!
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17:09.18fewchakblin: last time was in which year?
17:09.30kblinas a student? 2007
17:10.54fewchakblin: btw by last i meant latest..sorry :P
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17:12.02kblintechnically, I could still apply as a student, because PhD students also qualify
17:12.10kblinit would feel a little silly, though
17:12.14kblin:)
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17:12.30harshkotharikblin: PhD topic ?
17:12.55pcoderkblin: silly, why?
17:13.05kblinharshkothari: I'm looking for antibiotics in genomes of microorganisms
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17:13.37tachyonskblin : bilology !
17:13.49harshkotharikblin: ohh awesome :D
17:13.57kblinpcoder: because I don't have the time to get involved with another open source project, and telling samba "sorry, I can't admin this year, I want to apply as a student" does feel silly
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17:15.05kblinpcoder: also, I think gsoc should be about getting new people into the community
17:15.26tachyons!countdown
17:15.27gsocbottachyons: "countdown" is see the topic
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17:15.41AndreiDumahow many gsoc-rs here started gsoc-ing in their first college year?
17:15.57jjs1tachyons: http://goo.gl/ocEn4
17:15.58pcoderkbllin: aah, I get the point now. If being *a PhD student* makes a silly GSoC student candidate, then I am one :(
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17:16.32AndreiDumapcoder, his retreat from a mentor position would have been silly
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17:16.37tachyonspcoder  :No
17:16.50AndreiDumapcoder, you're participation is not
17:17.23gary_bhe could have mentored and applied as a student...
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17:17.44AndreiDumagary_b, didn't think about that. would be cool.
17:17.53AndreiDumawould be nice to mentor yourself :D
17:18.09pcodergary_b: Is that possible?
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17:18.37gary_byou cant mentor yourself heh, but i think you can both mentor and be a student at the same time
17:18.53AndreiDumagary_b, at least in different projects
17:18.56AndreiDumaor orgs.
17:19.37pcodergary_b: ouch that sounds like a lot, given one may have other things todo as well
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17:19.51tachyons<but i think you can both mentor and be a student at the same time>  NO
17:19.54gevaertsgary_b: no. That's not possible
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17:20.33pcodergevaerts: "Being your own mentor is possible?"
17:20.51AndreiDumapcoder, that was a joke :P
17:20.52gevaertspcoder: being a mentor and a student in the same year is not possible
17:21.04aciidits mentioned in FAQ
17:21.11gevaertsWhich implies that being your own mentor is not possible
17:21.11gary_byea im wrong, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#10._I_would_like_to_participate_in Cant do both
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17:21.31pcoderAndreiDuma, gevaerts: I am silly now :p
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17:22.19tachyonsBeing a student isnot a sillything
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17:23.42bretonsilly students
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17:25.02kblinpcoder: ah, no, nothing against phd students in general
17:25.27Harakacountdown?
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17:25.58Haraka!countdown?
17:26.09akif500!countdown
17:26.10GorillaWarfareHaraka: It's in the topic.
17:26.10gsocbotakif500: "countdown" is see the topic
17:26.44banasI think it's nicer if the bot could answer queries on private messages. That way that would be less flooding.
17:26.45mr_fake!countdown | Gil_Galad
17:26.46gsocbotGil_Galad: "countdown" is see the topic
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17:27.29Gil_Galad!countdown
17:27.30gsocbotGil_Galad: "countdown" is see the topic
17:27.33jjs1banas: but less people would see the answers
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17:28.35kblinbanas: well, if people queried the bot, it'd use that to reply :)
17:28.47loop2!logs
17:28.47gsocbotloop2: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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17:29.33banaskblin: It does? I tried /msg gsocbot !next , but that didn't seem to help
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17:30.34jjs1kblin: is there a way to get a list of factoids for a channel (that I'm missing)?
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17:31.06DarkAdderjjsl: factoids search #gsoc *
17:31.07jjs1I've been using "factoids random" and "factoids search ..." with a bunch of regexps
17:31.15DarkAdderquery the bot
17:31.21jjs1oh sweet, thanks DarkAdder :)
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17:32.20jjs1"Narrow your query" xD
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17:32.30jjs1Oh well.
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17:32.51adhoc_!time
17:32.52gsocbotadhoc_: "time" is has come, the walrus said, to speak of other things.
17:32.56adhoc_!timeleft
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17:33.10Haddock_adhoc_: see the topic
17:33.11jojva`!stress
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17:33.23Naeblisspeaks of other things
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17:33.36mr_fake!botabuse
17:33.37gsocbotmr_fake: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>
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17:37.08jjs1Come to me email!
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17:37.31Haddock_there is no point in being nervous. your fate is already decided.
17:37.31jjs1Fly my pretty! Bring good news!
17:37.36Haddock_speaks to myself
17:37.45Haddock_hisself?
17:38.00jjs1Haddock_: :)
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17:38.05carolskai: do we have something in the bot to remind people when the emails go out that they'll get one email per proposal?
17:38.11carolsi thought we did from last year...
17:38.23carolsor gevaerts, do you know?
17:38.42kblinhm, not off-hand
17:38.45kblin!email
17:38.46gsocbotkblin: "email" is try !emails instead
17:38.48kblin!emails
17:38.49gsocbotkblin: "emails" is (#1) The emails were sent out by a bug. They don't mean anything. Please ignore them., or (#2) Who is accepted and rejected is not decided yet. It's impossible to determine if you're accepted or not from your emails because it's not decided yet., or (#3) This is also why your dashboard will have changed in Melange., or (#4) Everything is back to normal now.
17:38.58Haddock_oops
17:39.06carolsyeah, that's from last year, but not the same thing :-)
17:39.15kblinbut we could use that
17:39.17wooohey do we recieve email also whether we selected or not ?
17:39.36Haddock_wooo: yes
17:39.40carolskai: yeah, every year people freak out at the number of emails
17:40.07woooHaddock_: at 19:00 UTC or later ?
17:40.12downeyNothing in last year's logs about the mails.
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17:40.27jjs1Do the emails come from an address like no_reply@google-melange.appspot.com ?
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17:41.31downey!numapps | downey
17:41.31gsocbotdowney: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
17:41.48kblin!forget emails
17:41.48gsocbotkblin: Error: 4 factoids have that key.  Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them.
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17:41.53kblin!forget emails *
17:41.53gsocbotkblin: The operation succeeded.
17:42.06mariaDa2except for email, will the list of approved applications published on site?
17:42.32carolsmariaDa2: yes, as it is every year.
17:42.57kblin!learn emails as You will get one email per proposal you submitted. As you can only be accepted for one proposal, expect that you get "rejected" emails for all the others you sent in even if you got accepted.
17:42.57gsocbotkblin: "emails" is You will get one email per proposal you submitted. As you can only be accepted for one proposal, expect that you get rejected emails for all the others you sent in even if you got accepted.
17:43.07kblincarols: something like that?
17:43.17wooohey one basic doubt. How to know about all query we can ask to bot ?
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17:43.19carolskblin: yep! that's great. thank you
17:43.30mariaDa2carols: thanks. Expecting it here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2013
17:43.57carolsindeed.
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17:44.19Haddock_!factoids | wooo
17:44.19gsocbotwooo: "factoids" is To see all factoids, /msg gsocbot factoids search #gsoc *
17:44.45kblingoes off to hunt some food. will be back later to help
17:44.53carolsthanks kblin
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17:45.25wooo#gsoc *
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17:46.31qheadenHi all.
17:47.17Haddock_hi qheaden
17:47.22MatthewWilkescarols, kblin: Is it worth saying anything about the fact that emails might take a while to process, and not to freak out because they've only had a subset?
17:47.45carolsMatthewWilkes: maybe so. want to change it?
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17:51.37MatthewWilkes!learn emails as It takes some time for thousands of emails to be sent. Please be patient and don't draw conclusions if you hear that others have already received their confirmations.
17:51.37gsocbotMatthewWilkes: "emails" is (#1) You will get one email per proposal you submitted. As you can only be accepted for one proposal, expect that you get rejected emails for all the others you sent in even if you got accepted., or (#2) It takes some time for thousands of emails to be sent. Please be patient and don't draw conclusions if you hear that others have already received their confirmations.
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17:52.48mariaDa2carols: Maybe it would be better to tell everyone not to wait for emails, but instead  consult  http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2013 ?
17:52.53k-joseph:)
17:53.15carolsmariaDa2: whatever we tell people to do, they will freak out and do the opposite. it's the nature of this job.
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17:54.18jjs1What's the carols? We should be freaking out? Aaaaah!
17:54.32jjs1sorry :-)
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17:54.50qheaden"Please don't span the channel with countdowns." Something tells me that people won't notice, or ignore this. :P
17:54.55CrystallisDo we get to know the reason why we get rejected?
17:55.07CrystallisIf we are rejected?
17:55.09qheadenCrystallis: Usually the mentor will tell you
17:55.45|Kev|That hasn't been my experience.
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17:56.02|Kev|But if you ask they might.
17:56.30woooqheaden: Don't we get email if we are not selected by google?
17:56.37MatthewWilkesGenerally my line is "Google wants the fun of telling everyone. We defer to them, so check the webapp to find out"
17:56.40waitingForResultCrystallis: You can ask the orgs
17:56.54qheadenwooo: Yes. Well, I got one last year.
17:56.54|Kev|wooo: Everyone gets a mail. One per proposal.
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17:57.19waitingForResultAndreiDuma: Ready? :p
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17:58.13qheadenhas butterflies in his stomach.
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17:58.29aciidhas snakes
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17:58.49Richard-Turner!topic
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17:59.00nlminhtl1 hour!
17:59.07ansimionescuJust out of curiosity, you can't get more than one accepted proposal, right?
17:59.15|Kev|Correct.
17:59.16aciidansimionescu: right
17:59.24AndreiDumawaitingForResult, ready :P
17:59.28ansimionescuaciid: ty :)
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18:00.17harshaduraserves some coffee
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18:01.03AndreiDuma1 hour left, get ready! :)
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18:01.14waitingForResult1 HOUR LEFT!
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18:02.07jjs1longest 36-hundred seconds ever :(
18:02.15aciid+1
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18:02.18harshaduraheh
18:02.20gary_bheh
18:02.24ManojKumar3462 now
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18:02.40waitingForResultOkay, we are getting muted any second now.
18:02.48jjs1Yeah. Pretty sure we should cease and desist  :-)
18:03.29jjs1I think counting the seconds down probably goes against the spirit of the MOTD
18:03.39pratnala3380 seconds
18:03.41gary_bmotd?
18:03.48jjs1topic, sorry
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18:04.01waitingForResultPlease don't countdown seconds. We will all be muted.
18:04.08gary_bits been such a long wait though!
18:04.15waitingForResultLet's try to behave till the announcement. :)
18:04.26jjs1And then? :-)
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18:05.07downeyjjs1: And then behave, after the announcement. ;-)
18:05.09next_timewaiting for gsoc 2014 ;-)
18:05.12waitingForResultjjs1: And then, let's hope we all PARTY!
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18:05.30jjs1next_time: Darn you
18:05.45pratnalagoodnight, i am sleeping :P
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18:06.35waitingForResultpratnala: Can you?
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18:06.42jjs1will brb, is cooking
18:06.43rihnapstorwaitingForResult: who is getting champagne btw ?
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18:08.07gary_bill have a whiskey + coke if i get in
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18:08.12waitingForResultrihnapstor: We'll figure something out. :p
18:08.15gary_band 10 if i dont :p
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18:08.24gary_bjust kiddin'
18:08.32next_timejjs1 Darn or Warn ? :-)
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18:10.07rihnapstorI have glenfiddich in stock :D ^^
18:10.21dfighteryawn
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18:10.34dfightera little afternoon / early evening nap is always great!
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18:11.13dfighterso 50 + epsilon minutes left?
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18:15.26kblinhm, looks like I just got a student applying to one of my orgs, as a mentor
18:15.32kblina tad late, I'd say
18:16.00k-josephi praise God for all of us, patiently waiting here, Amen!!!  best wishes to you all :)
18:16.12jjs1gary_b: LoL!
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18:16.36jjs1k-joseph: Thanks! Best of luck(?) to everyone :-)
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18:16.39dfighterat this point praising your God doesn't help
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18:16.47tkamppetercarols, hi
18:16.52carolshi tkamppeter
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18:17.51tkamppetercarols, I still hope that the student un-withdraws. How urgently do you need the slot? If I reject now and return the slot, who will get it?
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18:18.38akif500hahaha....i dont think that slot could be used so late.
18:18.40jimbbcan a small personal opensource project (not an org) apply for gsoc as an org and get a couple of students to work on it? For next year ofcourse
18:18.41tkamppetercarols, I by myself have no use for the slot if the student does not show up to un-withdraw.
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18:19.01carolstkamppeter: please discuss this with me in a PM, not a logged IRC channel.
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18:20.27babacarols: will the channel be muted anytime ?
18:20.43iRaghucarols : list comes all at once or in iteration?
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18:20.46carolsbaba: sure, when and if the number of people posting gets out of control.
18:20.57babaok
18:21.01bha1iRaghu, iterations.. orgs alphabetically
18:21.14babaso we all will be patient ..!!
18:21.22carolsgreat idea.
18:21.24iRaghutime difference in the iterations?
18:21.31jjs1jimbb: I think this entry in the FAQ and '4.' a little way down answers your question: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._What_is_a_mentoring_organization
18:21.32bha1upto 2 hours
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18:21.47bha1keep calm, and browse on.
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18:21.52faustjimbb: i think that everybody can apply as an org, but i think that there is a 50% acceptance rate
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18:22.06dfighteriRaghu it always takes time for the emails to be all sent
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18:22.09dfighterit's lots of emails
18:22.15dfighterif that's what you were wondering about
18:22.31aciidwhat does it means? once or in iteration?
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18:22.38ManojKumardfighter: would the melange page be updated as soon as it is 7?
18:22.44sachin_hjust curious, what if someone withdraws his proposal now and he has been selected?
18:22.47aciidi assume, a lost of accepted students will be displayed, right
18:22.48aciid?
18:22.48bha1yeah, but the way google scales, i doubt 1000 mails is a big deal.. its just melange isnt so optimized for scaling
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18:23.17bha1probably the GAE instance isnt as awesome as it can be
18:23.20dfighterManojKumar well I can't recall that
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18:23.37dfighterManojKumar however don't expect it to work when you click on it at 19:00:01 UTC
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18:23.42dfighterit will be slow as hell
18:23.47dfighterif it's anything like last year :P
18:23.51akif500ManojKumar: the link for accepted proposals will be there at home page
18:23.56ManojKumarokay, thanks :)
18:24.01joskoWhat's the exact URL :D I will load the page first
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18:24.17|Kev|I would strongly advise people to just wait until they get an email drop in their mail client.
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18:24.28|Kev|The stress really isn't worth it :p
18:24.34dfighteragrees with |Kev|
18:24.45aciidI think http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2013
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18:24.47dfighterI've just opened up Visual Studio to do some work in the meantime
18:24.58aaptelthe url is the same as last year, just s/12/13/
18:24.59SaurabhYou can check with the individual organisations. They have shorter lists so it is easy to check
18:25.22akif500http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2013
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18:25.31dfighterSaurabh tbh, I don't think those few minutes really matter
18:25.43dfighterso as |Kev| suggested
18:25.43aaptelthe thing is, the page makes dynamic requests
18:25.48dfighterit's wiser to just wait for the email
18:26.08sachin_hI'm kinda scared of logging into melange now, should I hit the withdraw button by mistake. Is the withdraw button disabled now?
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18:26.21|Kev|No idea, but it's probably not disabled.
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18:26.31nallaits not disabled
18:26.38sachin_hokay
18:26.39faust!logs
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18:27.33sachin_hAnd the orgs can't change anything now, I suppose?
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18:28.03|Kev|They could choose not to take a student, if something odd was to happen, I suppose.
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18:28.18|Kev|I can't see it happening, though.
18:28.23sachin_hAh, okay.
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18:29.51nallaYeah, the orgs can't change their decision in the last minute as they have already signed for the respectiveprojects
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18:30.28downeyI'm pretty sure we can always un-accept a proposal should something happen to cause us not to work with a given student. ;-)
18:30.46dfighterno you can't
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18:30.48nallaIt can happen later on but not now
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18:30.57dfighterbut you can fail them on midterm
18:30.58dfighterand final
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18:31.10dfighterso they don't get the dorrars
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18:32.04harsh_092not an ideal time for the results for me. Exam in a few hours :-/
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18:32.04downeydfighter: You seem to be forgetting the community bonding period.
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18:32.35jjs1harsh_092: that sucks! Though it could be good news :-)
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18:32.47dfighterdowney oh yea that too, you can fail them there too
18:32.53dfighterbut it's not the same as un-accepting
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18:33.36mancoolgundadowney: Could you explain in brief what exactly happens in the community bonding period? I know briefly that students are supposed to interact with mentors, learn more about the org, the technologies they use, documentation etc. Anything apart from this?
18:33.38dhanushharsh_092,  I had an exam today, another one on 29th. :P
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18:33.41downeydfighter: And BTW, we can un-accept proposals in Melange. It just would cause carols extra stress, and we do everything we can to avoid that if at all possible. :-)
18:34.01downeymancoolgunda: http://googlesummerofcode.blogspot.com/2007/04/so-what-is-this-community-bonding-all.html
18:34.03dfighterI see downey
18:34.20k-josephharsh_092: i wish you success in these next two events :)
18:34.28kblinthe difference is pretty academic, of course
18:34.41downeymancoolgunda: You should talk to your mentor to see what they'd like to see accomplished during the community bonding period. The general goal is to make sure you're a "citizen in good standing" with your organization, if you're not already. :-)
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18:35.02mancoolgundagot it, thanks
18:35.04harsh_092dhanush: yeah. I would have been so nervous about GSOC results during the exam. Not Cool at all. :(
18:35.07srinup!next
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18:35.08gsocbotsrinup: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
18:35.17srinup!time
18:35.17gsocbotsrinup: "time" is has come, the walrus said, to speak of other things.
18:35.21harsh_092k-joseph: thanks ;)
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18:36.08dhanushharsh_092,  yeah. at least the coding period doesnt fall in between exams this time.
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18:36.58dfighterdhanush for you
18:37.01dfighterit does for me
18:37.13dfighterI have exams throughout entire June
18:37.31dhanushdfighter,  yeah. right. I specifically meant for me.
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18:37.34dfighterofc if I wasn't selected it's not a problem :D
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18:37.45harsh_092Dfighter: Seriously? that does make things difficult to manage, isnt it?
18:37.50dhanushdfighter,  oh thats bad about the schedule of your exams.
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18:38.12dfighterharsh_092 you will find that life is even more difficult
18:38.19dfighterit just requires careful time management
18:38.21dhanushdfighter,  :P
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18:38.37dfighter+ starting the work right after being accepted
18:38.43bretonso
18:38.50bretonshould I panic now?
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18:38.59justanotherfellasame for me, exams at the end of june, holidays july-september
18:39.18dfighterjustanotherfella july-August for me
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18:39.30CrystallisI got off early.
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18:39.32dfighterso next semester will start while the coding period is on
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18:39.38justanotherfella3 months summer break is very nice :)
18:39.41CrystallisAugust when I start school...
18:39.43justanotherfelladfighter: ouch
18:39.49dfighterbreton what should you panic about?
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18:40.05bretondfighter: being accpeted I guess
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18:40.20dfighterbreton it's kinda pointless :P
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18:40.29dfighterthe decision has already been made
18:40.34dfighterso worrying about it won't change anything
18:40.36kblindfighter: panicking mostly is :)
18:40.47dfightertrue kblin
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18:41.57harsh_092haha, yeah. It turns out that life is good even if you don't get selected. being selected is just a little more awesome I guess
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18:43.25jjs1Aaaah. It's so close
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18:43.42jjs1flips the desk
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18:43.45dfighterharsh_092 financially better. That's all.
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18:43.57srinupYay!! I got the mail
18:44.03jsr*fingers crossed*
18:44.08dfighterbut then I'm quite into open source already, have been for years. So it's not new for me.
18:44.16waitingForResultsrinup: Yea, account activity again? :p
18:44.21chetnasrinup alredy !!
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18:44.33dhanushsrinup,  congo!
18:44.38srinupnaah, just kidding! :P :P
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18:44.41breton:3 :3
18:44.45dhanushlolz!
18:44.45bretonoh you
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18:44.51jjs1all my hate :P (jk)
18:44.52chetnaomg
18:44.56anomaly404srinup: :/
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18:45.09srinup:D
18:45.10jjs1Can we collectively decide not to joke about that?
18:45.19srinupsorry! can't do that
18:45.20chetnaplej !! ^1
18:45.20srinup:P
18:45.26elixir1
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18:45.29bretonnope :3
18:45.38bretonjoking about this stuff is fun
18:45.42dfighter15 + epsilon minutes and everyone will know
18:45.44dfighterso relax :)
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18:45.53jjs1's head explodes
18:46.00AndreiDumajjs1, good idea :P
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18:46.11carolsok, it's about time for us to mute the channel
18:46.15babathe site is already slow now..
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18:46.17jjs1good luck!
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18:46.21chetnawouldn't they update the melang with accepted proposals .. or is the mail only the way to check out the result
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18:46.35babacarols: how long it will be muted ?
18:46.38derdonit's not even 19:00 UTC :(
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18:46.44carolsbaba: for as long as i please.
18:46.45srinupjjs1, go ask your mentor, open source people are cool, they'll tell you ;)
18:46.45kakarotthey'll update melange
18:46.47hvqhttp://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20130527T19&p0=1440&msg=GSOC
18:46.50dhanushif someone does get through to the lists, can they copy paste it and post it somewhere more convenient?
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18:46.59babacarols: ok np :)
18:47.12sachin_hAre the details we entered into our melange profile needed in any way now? Or is it only for later if you're selected?
18:47.13bretonbye-bye!
18:47.24derdonwhat's the point of abusing F5 if you get an email anyway?
18:47.25bretonsee yo on the other side
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18:47.33hvqcarols: how many students applied this year? Will the server overload?
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18:47.46zamNits google. cmon lol servers will not overload
18:47.48carolshvq: we'll just have to see, won't we?
18:47.52harsh_092Best of luck people. Hope things turn  out well for all of you. :) Bye
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18:52.44*** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> The channel is muted at the moment. If you can't talk, keep calm and carry on. | Google Summer of Code 2013 is on! | If you feel you need a countdown for the announcement, see http://goo.gl/ocEn4 | Please don't spam the channel with countdowns.
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18:54.18kblinnot that anybody ever bothers to read the topic, but still
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18:55.42carolswe'll keep it muted while melange is sending out the emails now.
18:55.50carolswe'll unmute it when things have all been settled
18:56.08kblinsounds good
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18:57.12*** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> The channel is muted while the announcement emails are being sent. If you can't talk, keep calm and carry on. | Note that you will get one email per proposal you sent, and you can be accepted only once. :)
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19:11.51carolswe'll unmute the channel once i've confirmed all the emails have gone out.
19:11.54carolsshouldn't be long now.
19:12.46kblinnote that now is also a good time to hang out in your community's IRC channel :D
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19:21.13swook:)
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19:21.25jjs1Well done all. Hope you got what you wanted :)
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19:22.15bretonwell
19:22.22aaptelwell, good luck everyone
19:22.31bretonI shouldn't have paniced :3
19:22.44jjs1breton: nice! :)
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19:22.52AndreiDumabreton, hero after the war, like we say in Romanian :P
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19:23.05OviliaBack to sleep now... Come here for some comfort :D
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19:23.29aaptelthere was some discussion about using google wallet last year
19:23.40mouseoveryay! :)
19:23.48Crystallis"... to determine how the monies you receive from the Google Summer of Code program will impact you fiscally."
19:23.49aaptelbut i guess it's still not faisable
19:23.52Crystallis"monies".
19:23.54Crystallis...
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19:24.29aaptel*feasable
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19:25.17kpolosinCongratulations to all) fun begins!
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19:25.30akif500let the party begin !!
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19:26.13derdonstarts with a plate of sausage and a beer, as Germans are expected to
19:26.22nikhatzii'm in too!!!! yahooo!!!! \o/
19:26.28jjs1is off to the pub :-)
19:26.44ThomasWaldmannnikhatzi: not yahoo! :P
19:26.50AndreiDumanikhatzi, it's "gooooogle!"
19:26.50nikhatzihahaha
19:26.53nikhatziyeaaaaaaaaah
19:27.02akif500hahahah
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19:27.19bogdatamhi
19:27.22nikhatzii'm off to get drunk, cu later
19:27.23Naman22all selected student from india please join this channel #gsoc-india
19:27.24nikhatzi:P
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19:27.48nghiemdocongrats to all, y'all deserved it :)
19:27.57bogdatamcan I talk with someone about the acceptance process?
19:28.09derdonno, with noone :P sorry
19:28.27aplavinanyone from russia? is there our community anywhere? :)
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19:28.30kblinbogdatam: you can talk to your mentoring org
19:28.38derdonbogdatam: ask the mentors, I guess theyl'' answer relevant questions
19:28.44derdon*they'll
19:28.50bogdatamhow is it done?
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19:29.02derdonbogdatam: IRC, for example?
19:29.23bogdatamapparently google chose a student that is colleague with the mentor involved in the project
19:29.24kpolosinok guys, I went to celebrate) will later! Once again, congratulations to all!
19:29.39bogdatameven their proposals are the same
19:29.46bogdatamis this possible
19:29.54gevaertsbogdatam: google doesn't choose the students. The organisation does
19:29.56bogdatamhow is it?
19:30.08mbabkerbogdatam: google doesn't select the students, the mentoring organizations do… you need to speak with the organization to sort out your issue
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19:30.29bogdatamok, they told me that google will chose
19:30.39gevaertsIf you suspect foul play, contacting the google people is fine of course
19:30.47MatthewWilkesbogdatam: additionally, you can't see other people's proposals, so you can't know if it's "the same" as anything else.
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19:31.11bogdatamwho are these google people.. this I would like to know
19:31.55derdonMatthewWilkes: well, for my project (SunPy) transpareny seemed to have a high priority. everyone knew the application of the others
19:32.22bogdatamMatthewWilkes: have a look at this please http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2013/pravin_aptil/17001 this is the student
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19:32.33kblin!support | bogdatam
19:32.40kblinhm, or not
19:32.56andrionicarols: students from Brazil won't even receive the notebook and pen this year?
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19:33.01bogdatamMatthewWilkes: and at this: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2012/spm/22001 the mentor (his proposal from last year)
19:33.12David_Honeynetcongrats to everyone who got accepted, and commiserations to those that did not. have an exciting summer all
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19:33.21David_Honeynetand great job carols and co (as always) :-)
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19:33.47nlminhtlneed I send any proof about my ungraduating?
19:34.15chandankumarthank you all
19:34.35joskoCongratulations to the accepted students!
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19:35.57bogdatamMatthewWilkes: are you agreeing with me?
19:36.15MatthewWilkesbogdatam: Nope
19:36.23MichaelCHow do students know who their mentors are?
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19:36.46MatthewWilkesbogdatam: As others have said, contact Google if you want to discuss this.
19:36.51bogdatamso you thing there is nothing wrong
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19:37.05bogdatamthis is google
19:37.10MatthewWilkesNo, this is an IRC channel.
19:37.14kblinno, this is IRC
19:37.18nlminhtlMichaelC: You can contact with your project to ask about it.
19:37.23bogdatamthis is the only link shown on their site
19:37.43prasoon2211_carols : when will Google be releasing the stats for this year's GSoC?
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19:37.46MichaelCnlminhtl: i'm a mentor. I was just wondering if students knew who there mentors were already or if we had to tell them
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19:37.49bogdatamcome on... this is gsoc channel
19:37.55MatthewWilkeskblin: ^5
19:38.07MJ94Hello!
19:38.09nlminhtlMichaelC: oh, lol, I apologize :D
19:38.11kblinbogdatam: sure, but we're not google
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19:38.28bogdatamcan anyone tell me an emai address for contacting some who could help me?
19:38.33kblinMichaelC: as a mentor, I like to send my students a "welcome" email
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19:39.06fjI'm a student. I was just wondering who has become my mentor!
19:39.13agree! help
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19:39.16gevaertsbogdatam: to be honest, I don't see any similarity *at all* between those abstracts, apart from them obviously being about the same organisation
19:39.17bogdatamok... another question: Who is admin on this channel?
19:39.20derdonfj: It's Peter.
19:39.22nlminhtlhey, is student from the LibreOffice project here?
19:39.26gevaertsbogdatam: carols is
19:39.29nlminhtlis any student*
19:39.40derdonfj: but seriously, how should we know if we only know your nick name?
19:40.26bogdatamcarols: can you help me with an issue I am having>
19:40.34kblinfj: I'd suggest to drop by in your org's community and say hi there
19:41.47fjderdon: The nick name is the same user name I use on google melange.
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19:42.29swookfj: look at your org's gsoc2013 profile
19:42.32swookyou will be listed there
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19:43.21fjswook: Thanks! I've got it.
19:43.33derdonI find it interesting that melange is one of the participating organisations. closes the circle :)
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19:44.21mouseoverHow will non-US students receive their payment? The link (http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentpaymentcards) doesnt make mention of this?
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19:44.46Karlikmouseover: all students will get payment card
19:44.53scriptleneed help. THe project I was working on is not accepted. is there any chance that I can work on an other project for the program this year ?
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19:45.03mouseoverKarlik: via physical mail?
19:45.11nlminhtlAccording to this point http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as I will not receive any promotional items because I'm from Ukraine. Why??? :(
19:45.13Karlikmouseover: I think so
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19:45.43Karliknlminhtl: political issues?
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19:45.54olasdnlminhtl: because there has been issues with customs in Ukraine in previous programs
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19:46.27kblinhey lh
19:46.28kzemeknlminhtl: it was discussed somewhat more detailed on 24th May, you can check the logs
19:46.32aplavinand why isn't it possible to receive all items in the nearest google office instead of mail (Russia, Moscow)?
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19:47.22ThomasWaldmannscriptle: if you weren't accepted for another project: no. of course you can work outside of gsoc and contribute anything you like.
19:47.25nlminhtlkzemek: Will Google send me a pay card?
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19:47.41rihnapstorhi there ThomasWaldmann
19:47.55gevaertsnlminhtl: yes
19:48.13ThomasWaldmannmost organisations welcome contributors any time. of course they might be a bit "loaded" while gsoc is running.
19:48.14mouseoverAnyone here from Switzerland?
19:48.18downeyallman: Sure hope carols gets a deferred Memorial Day tomorrow :)
19:48.28ThomasWaldmannhi rihnapstor :)
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19:48.44allmanDowney: I hope so too!
19:48.47kblinaplavin: that's an organizational nightmare
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19:49.14kzemeknlminhtl: yes, a paycard goes as a document package, and there's generally no problem with these
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19:49.22MatthewWilkesallman!
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19:49.50allmanHi! :)
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19:50.09allmanHow is every one today?
19:50.11solardizaplavin: fwiw, fedex of low-value packages to Moscow works just fine
19:50.12MichaelCallman: seems none of you have a day off today? :P
19:50.27roonyHnever been better :)
19:50.35allmanIt's an important day! :)
19:50.46solardizhi allman! happy to see our students accepted as intended.
19:50.50nlminhtlkzemek: I waited a long time for t-shirt :(
19:50.59gevaertssolardiz: if the sender is a well known multinational known to have money?
19:51.19solardizgevaerts: why would that matter?
19:51.28allmanAnd we have a "fun" team offsite at the end of the week - which Carol will miss 1/2 of because she's giving a keynote on Friday!
19:51.32allmanYay Carol!
19:51.33swooksolardiz: bribes
19:51.34downeypasses the tea
19:51.42gevaertssolardiz: the stated reason is customs people asking for bribes
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19:52.05solardizgevaerts, swook: do you think google would bribe russian customs? i doubt it. ;-)
19:52.08MichaelCallman: you should give her tomorrow off. :P
19:52.11aplavinsolardiz: yes, fine, but no t-shirts :)
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19:52.32gevaertssolardiz: exactly
19:52.37solardizaplavin: i got my gsoc t-shirts in moscow just fine (twice so far, as org admin in 2011 and 2012)
19:52.43allmanI would love to - but it's a busy time. As I'm sure you've noticed ;-)
19:52.50harshaduracongratz everyone! xD
19:52.52MatthewWilkesallman: Oh dear, "fun" with inverted commas, not fun?
19:52.53MichaelChehehe. indeed
19:53.07swookgevaerts: btw, you've basically been with me through the application process, helping me knowingly and unknowingly. I owe you a massive hug but that can't really happen.
19:53.10aplavinsolardiz: oh, really? it's written that they don't send t-shirts to russia
19:53.12swookthanks gevaerts instead.
19:53.19solardizaplavin: got other low-value parcels via fedex fine as well
19:53.21allmanBut if she would like to take tomorrow off - or at least work from couch - she should totally do that!
19:53.31aplavinsolardiz: btw, are you from a university? which one?
19:53.32gevaertsswook: you're most welcome :)
19:53.43solardizaplavin: hmm, maybe a new thing this year (not sending to russia)
19:53.44downeyallman++
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19:53.56allmanNo, it should be fun fun - really actual fun :)
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19:54.01solardizaplavin: no, my role in gsoc is org admin for openwall - doesn't require me to be with a university
19:54.04MichaelCcarols: ^
19:54.15swookgevaerts: I might dig out the old Cowon D2 I have to get rockbox on it :D
19:54.25swookkinda gave it to my brother though so will have to ask him
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19:54.30MichaelCallman: it's google. Working from the office is working from the couch no? :P
19:54.32downeymay have to try this "work from couch" idea
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19:54.47andrionigevaerts: in some cases it's just that customs are slow. I got my tee last year about six months late :)
19:54.47nlminhtlthanks
19:54.56allmanfrom her couch then
19:55.09GorillaWarfareDo you know if we send the W-9 as a scan via email, or printed through snail mail?
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19:55.25gevaertsswook: good! The D2 port needs some love :)
19:55.40kblinGorillaWarfare: should be in the instructions you either got already or will get
19:56.08GorillaWarfarekblin: It just says we have to "complete and return" it
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19:56.18kblinah, I see
19:56.21GorillaWarfareOh
19:56.23GorillaWarfareActually
19:56.25MatthewWilkesallman: Glad to hear it! A friend of mine just got back from the bay area, her first trip to the states. Made me very jealous indeed of all the fun stuff there is to do in your corner of the world.
19:56.30GorillaWarfareFurther down it sort of implies we can upload it
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19:56.57solardizaplavin: with your openmp hostname, you should have applied to openwall, really ;-) and we'd send you a t-shirt too ;-)
19:56.59allmanWe like it :)  I'm glad your friend had a good time!
19:57.03spanGorillaWarfare: seems the uploading pages are not published yet
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19:57.10GorillaWarfarespan: Indeed
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19:57.20kblinGorillaWarfare: thre you go then
19:57.34derdoncan't wait for the next supertuxkart version: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2013/uni/41001 :D
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19:58.08nlminhtlkzemek: Another question, need I send any document that proves about my ungraduation?
19:58.16aplavinsolardiz: the hostname has nothing to do with my activity - just a server where we (mipt students) have accounts
19:58.27kblinnlminhtl: ungraduation?
19:58.59solardizaplavin: what project were you accepted(?) for?
19:59.06kzemeknlminhtl: I actually don't remember all of this, I think it's detailed in the FAQ :)
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19:59.20nlminhtlkblin: About that I'm a student)
19:59.34kblinnlminhtl: you should have gotten an email telling you this
19:59.34aplavinsolardiz: mercurial - improving its web interface
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19:59.43kblinnlminhtl: otherwise don't worry about it yet
19:59.44solardizbtw, who besides org admin can edit project abstracts now, if anyone?
19:59.55ThomasWaldmannyay, mercurial! :)
19:59.55nlminhtlkblin: ok, thanks
19:59.57mouseoverBased on the email Google sent me, I should have TODOs in "My Todos" section for submitting the documents. But I dont see them...
20:00.00kblinsolardiz: I thought the students could
20:00.03pnormanThe Foreign Certification form talks about "U.S. Activities" including software development when the computer is within the US. I was planning to do some testing for my project on EC2 or other US-based machines. If I'm doing that, will I need to fill out the IRS form?
20:00.32kblinmouseover: maybe that's not up yet
20:00.34solardizkblin: oh, this is unexpected considering they could not edit proposals themselves after the application deadline (unless re-enabled by org)
20:00.40gevaertspnorman: get an EC2 instance in Europe, and the question goes away :)
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20:00.57pnormangevaerts: Europe spot EC2 prices are considerably more
20:00.58nlminhtlCan I buy a GSoC t-shirt by a money from the paycard? :D
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20:01.09mouseoverkblin: ok, also, as a "Non-US student".. will I receive my payment card via physical mail?
20:01.27kblinsolardiz: well, the proposal they got accepted with is still unchanged, in "proposals submitted to my org"
20:01.40andrionimouseover: yes
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20:01.45kblinsolardiz: they can just update the abstract that's visible on the website
20:01.50MJ94kblin: the topic is wrong - the channel isn't +m :)
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20:02.11solardizkblin: ok, i'll try asking some of our students to edit, if they can (since we re-focused the projects somewhat in recent weeks)
20:02.29qheadenWhen I receive the payment card in June, is the first $505 mine to save/spend?
20:02.33kblinsolardiz: at least I seem to remember that's how it was in the past years
20:02.38mouseoverandrioni: thanks
20:02.39kblinqheaden: yes
20:02.42pnormanalso, having to avoid any US-based servers would be a pain
20:02.44ThomasWaldmanncould need a bit more summer here in germany. more like oct/nov. currently.
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20:02.53qheadenkblin: Wow nice, thanks.
20:03.16kblinpnorman: you should probably ask a tax advisor
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20:03.33kblinpnorman: I don't think anybody in here is qualified to provide tax advice
20:03.38derdonThomasWaldmann: you decide when it's summer!
20:03.45tcortmy school isn't in the autocomplete list (one of the TODO items). what action should I take?
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20:03.52kblinderdon: a bit hard when it's rainy and cold
20:04.04ThomasWaldmanngoes turning the heat on.
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20:04.37derdonmakes a snowman
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20:05.14AndreiDumaThomasWaldmann, come to melt in Romania.
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20:06.12ThomasWaldmannAndreiDuma: :) - will visit Florence in some weeks, so there is hope.
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20:10.26Naebliswell, got accepted
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20:11.01allmanNaeblis: Congratulations.
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20:12.05Naeblisty
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20:13.25jurybenhey is it too late for students to apply
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20:13.42kblinjuryben: way too late
20:13.58jurybenalright, i totally forgot
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20:14.19Naeblishmm. The org which was my first choice rejected me. Think I should ask for feedback?
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20:14.53kblinNaeblis: sure, why not?
20:14.53jurybenwas the rejection letter specific?
20:15.01Naeblisor is it too early? I guess they'll be too busy after the community bonding period.
20:15.12jurybennah just ask, cant hurt
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20:15.35jurybenand it's better to start now instead of being an akward programmer
20:15.41gevaertsNaeblis: asking can't hurt
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20:16.08jurybenalso, is this a good channel to ask for programming advice?  im new here
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20:16.58ThomasWaldmannnot really
20:17.06jurybenok cool
20:17.12ThomasWaldmannbut there are lots of channels for programming languages
20:17.28Naeblisjoin any specific channel that you want. I tend to hang out in #python a lot.
20:17.56jurybenim gonna pick up a book on design patterns
20:18.23vince___second year applying to GSOC, only to experience rejection again. maybe third time will be a charm! ;)
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20:18.42czardozjuryben: #friendly-coders
20:18.44czardoz:)
20:18.57jurybenimpossible!
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20:19.05czardozhahaha
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20:19.24Naeblisdidn't know about that chan. ty, czardoz
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20:19.39czardozsure thing
20:19.41czardoz:)
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20:21.22aplavinwhat about foreign certification form? should I print it, fill, scan and send (as there is signature required), or just fill in the electronic variant?
20:22.38dfighteraplavin you will be told what and when to do
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20:24.45CzarconiusI got in to Portland State University. Congratulations to everyone else who got selected for the program. :)
20:25.07Czarconiuscarols: Good job guys. :)
20:25.17carolsthanks, but i'm not a guy.
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20:25.49qheadencarols: I remember last year you kept sipping your coffee. Out of it this year? :P
20:26.06carolsqheaden: i'm just busy right now.
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20:26.41qheadencarols: I don't doubt that.
20:26.46pcoder!numapps
20:26.46gsocbotpcoder: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
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20:28.05breton1192 selected, 5999 proposals from 4,144 students
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20:28.45kblin5999 proposals?
20:28.53bretonhttp://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2013/05/students-announced-for-google-summer-of.html
20:29.30kblinha, earlier today I guessed about 6000 :)
20:30.00dfighterwow 5999 is a lot
20:30.06gevaertskblin: *that*'s why one proposal was "accidentally" withdrawn at the last minute!
20:30.12dfighterhow many of them were spam proposals tho? :D
20:30.16gevaertsYou couldn't be allowed to be right!
20:30.37kblingevaerts: I'm a biologist, 5999 is 6000 :)
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20:30.54AndreiDumafor some, even 6000 is not 6000
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20:31.01AndreiDumadue to rounding errors
20:31.08AmberJ!stats
20:31.08gsocbotAmberJ: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
20:31.13AmberJhuh
20:31.26AmberJchecks the blog instead
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20:31.39kblin!numapps | AmberJ
20:31.39gsocbotAmberJ: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
20:31.46kblinfeel free to update the numbers
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20:31.59olasdthe number "5999" looks suspicious :p
20:32.02gevaerts!learn numapps as In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted.  In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted.
20:32.03gsocbotgevaerts: "numapps" is (#1) In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted., or (#2) In 2013, 177 (2 more messages)
20:32.04AmberJThanks!
20:32.13gevaerts!forget numapps 1
20:32.14gsocbotgevaerts: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 (1 more message)
20:32.31gevaertstries to trim some more words
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20:35.28olasdgevaerts: "2012: 180/406 orgs accepted; 1212/6685 proposals accepted for 4258 students"?
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20:36.14gevaerts!learn numapps as In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepeted.
20:36.14gsocbotgevaerts: "numapps" is (#1) In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted (2 more messages)
20:36.22gevaerts!forget numapps 1
20:36.22gsocbotgevaerts: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepeted.
20:36.33gevaerts!learn numapps as In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted.
20:36.34gsocbotgevaerts: "numapps" is (#1) In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepeted., or (#2) In 2013, 177 (1 more message)
20:36.39gevaerts!forget numapps 1
20:36.40gsocbotgevaerts: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted.
20:36.50gevaertsReadable enough?
20:37.23prasoon2211_gevaerts : yes
20:37.55olasdyeah, if you want to go denser you'll have to have the bot send a json array :P
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20:39.40gevaerts!learn numapps-condensed as H4sIAILEo1EAA4XPXQ6CMBAE4HdPMY+aENPtL40n8BgIVUmUEgoh3t4WoqjR+Dq7+Sazb8AZiQxkDPwRkgyurul9Vzcn+O4UMLrOoShL1/au2sUPKRH6oYpfAWE4XOs+HqCstWg73/pQXEKWsPFcl2cQWf6ObLGfanmszdlUy/RcVjQViBNPoda5WkSsDzdIrvJn+ea7SmmMeoxZVCKdQiWN/FCFEfRPZVFVlAChX1XGZ1WJef2CSi1/oqs7woga+XgBAAA=
20:39.41gsocbotgevaerts: "numapps-condensed" is H4sIAILEo1EAA4XPXQ6CMBAE4HdPMY+aENPtL40n8BgIVUmUEgoh3t4WoqjR+Dq7+Sazb8AZiQxkDPwRkgyurul9Vzcn+O4UMLrOoShL1/au2sUPKRH6oYpfAWE4XOs+HqCstWg73/pQXEKWsPFcl2cQWf6ObLGfanmszdlUy/RcVjQViBNPoda5WkSsDzdIrvJn+ea7SmmMeoxZVCKdQiWN/FCFEfRPZVFVlAChX1XGZ1WJef2CSi1/oqs7woga+XgBAAA=
20:39.45gevaertsLike that? :)
20:39.59gevaerts30% shorter!
20:40.33dreimarklike rather chocolate instead of that byte code
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20:40.57gevaertsIt's just gzip+base64. Nothing exotic!
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20:51.18mgetchHey guys, just wanted to drop a wuick thank you to the IRC
20:51.18akshay_rhow many total ppl selected ?
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20:51.28mgetchI wasn't goign to apply to GSoC
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20:51.40mgetchbut at the behest of some very encouraging folks on here I did
20:51.45mgetchand I was accepted
20:51.48mgetchSo thanks guys
20:51.50mgetchyou all rock
20:51.59mgetchthough in different ways
20:52.07tosomgetch: congrats
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20:52.31dhaunmgetch: that's great - another GSoC success story (well, a story in the making at least :)
20:52.40vince___does anyone know whether or not there will be a GSOC next year?
20:53.01gevaertsvince___: no. Not even the google people
20:53.59vince___gevaerts: ok
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20:55.48mgetchthanks guys
20:55.50mgetchand as I said
20:55.58mgetchI wouldn't have applied without the support of this room
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20:57.09vince___mgetch what organization?
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21:01.13d33tahi got accepted! damn, my late proposal was good enough all in all! :D
21:02.23koda!next
21:02.24gsocbotkoda: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site
21:02.36d33tahkoda: feels like a bug, isn't it? ;)
21:02.45kodayeah
21:04.06d33tahi can finally unhilight soc in my irc client ;)
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21:08.20jbibhow do i find how many got into this years program?
21:08.33jjs1!numapps | jbib
21:08.34gsocbotjbib: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted.
21:08.34neverpanic!numapps | jbib
21:08.34roonyH1192
21:08.35gsocbotjbib: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted.
21:08.38neverpanicsorry.
21:09.10jjs1neverpanic: I win! (jk) :)
21:09.23roonyHhey!!
21:09.25jbibhahaha thanks guys
21:09.36jbibso the intake went down comparatively!
21:09.45jbibsuprising....
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21:10.15roonyHit has happened before iirc
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21:11.22jjs1Didn't it also start a month earlier/later this year? That might have affected the outcome
21:11.48roonyHyeah later
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21:16.21AchillionGreetings
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21:16.37AchillionCongrats to all who got accepted
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21:36.02cypha_fossquick question...for students outside of US google needs a tax form from 2012 or 2011?
21:36.33cypha_fosscause for 2012 I have just filled the tax evaluation form and the final papers will arrive well after july
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21:41.05waldicypha_foss: the faq stats what google needs for both u.s. and non-u.s. students
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21:42.11banasIs it okay if I change my shipping address now? I would like my welcome package shipped to my new address? :)
21:45.24xchgAm I understanding it correctly if I think that I need to sumbit only proof of enrollment and foreign certification form if I am not from US?
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21:46.49dfighterxchg neither as of yet
21:47.00dfighterxchg you will be told what to do and when
21:47.34dfighteraltough nvm
21:47.39dfighterit's already appeared in the todo part
21:47.43dfighterso I guess we can already do that
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21:48.27xchgdfighter: I am just reading the Accepted Student Information document
21:48.34dfightermkay
21:48.56dfighterguess I was confused because the todo part wasn't there like 2 hours ago
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21:50.46xchgso to my question. Am I right?
21:51.02dfighteraccording to the information thingie yea
21:51.09dfighterand according to my experiences last year
21:51.11dfighter:)
21:52.23xchgok great thanks :)
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22:06.17CrystallisFor submitting the enrollment form, how do we know when we are okay? I supposed that the document would need to be checked somehow.
22:07.21gevaertsCrystallis: in previous years, students were contacted if there was a problem
22:07.34Crystallisvia IRC or email?
22:07.45gevaertsSo just submit the stuff, and if there's anything missing, you'll get an email at some point
22:07.53CrystallisAlright.
22:08.47banasIs it okay if I change my shipping address now? I would like my welcome package shipped to my new address?
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22:09.32gevaertsbanas: I'm fairly sure changing it is fine, but I'm not sure if that's in time for the welcome package
22:09.56gevaertsThe welcome packages go out *very* soon after the announcement
22:10.00banasExactly why I had wanted to confirm. I hope it isn't very late
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22:10.26gevaertslooks around for a google person
22:10.44gevaertsAh, allman might know :)
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22:11.45banasHi allman! :D
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22:14.18gevaertsbanas: you could also send an email to carols, but given the number of emails she probably has to reply to around deadlines, I'm not at all sure your email would be read in time...
22:14.22banasgevaerts: Do you think dropping an email to carols is a good idea? She's probably be overloaded with emails
22:14.28banasLOL
22:15.16banasYes, I was thinking the same.. So I think I will change the address. If it arrives at the old address, I will arrange for it to be shipped to mine from there.
22:15.23banasgevaerts: ^
22:15.30gevaertsThat's what I'd do, yes
22:15.55gevaertsMaybe also send the email and ask, so you know what to expect
22:16.11banasOkay! That works. Sure, I'll do that. Thanks!
22:17.02derdongevaerts: sounds like gsoc organisation is a real full-time job for carols
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22:17.26gevaertsderdon: I've seen her say it's about 70%, yes
22:17.27allmanbanas: Sorry - I stepped away. What can I do for you?
22:17.57banasHi allman. So thing is, my current address has changed since application.
22:18.12banasDo you think it's a good idea to change it now, or is it too late?
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22:18.53allmanI would change it pronto - but do read the FAQ, and double check with Carol.
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22:19.34allmanBTW - "pronto" = quickly :)
22:19.35banasAlright, I'll do that! :) I just wanted to know if the packages are already on their way, or if there is some time until the shipping starts..
22:19.52banasallman, yes.
22:19.55banas:)
22:20.22allmanThat's what Carol can tell you - after you double check the FAQ and acceptance email to make sure it doesn't say in there :)
22:20.50banasSure! I'll do as you suggested. Thank you allman! Have a great day! :)
22:20.58allmanYou too!
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22:28.19galaxyAbstractorAnyone from Sweden that got accepted? :>
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22:30.20edsiper:)
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22:30.45MJ94hey ed
22:30.47MJ94:)
22:31.18MJ94is just a bystander who doesn't code. Congratulations to all those involved in GSoC, though!
22:31.52edsiperhi MJ94
22:32.02MJ94:)
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22:59.43derdonwhat kind of information should the form field "additional information" contain exactly? a description of the organisation? even more information about the specific project? or something else?
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23:20.31chrohi, is it possible to see the allocation of students to projects?
23:21.20gevaertschro: open the list of projects, click on the "export to csv" link, and group on the organisation column
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23:22.31chrooh i didn't see the list of projects
23:22.33chrothanks
23:23.07gevaertscongratulates Apache for leading the board :)
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23:28.43elixir_!numapps
23:28.43gsocbotelixir_: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted.
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23:38.37ojwb5999!
23:39.23gevaertsojwb: don't you just like round numbers? ;)
23:39.34ojwbso not the big drop in the number of proposals which some orgs were suggesting
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23:39.43ojwbdidn't really buy that
23:40.07gevaertsI can't remember a year when people were *not* complaining about a drop in proposal numbers
23:40.23ojwbit's certainly a common worry during the application period
23:40.26gevaertsPeople just fundamentally assume linearity
23:41.23ojwbi wonder how the org which was worrying they wouldn't get any good enough got on
23:41.59gevaertsHmmm
23:42.06gevaertsI see 176 organisations in the list
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23:42.51ojwbsorted the accepted proposals by org?
23:42.58gevaertsyes
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23:43.24ojwbnow you just need to compare to the list of accepted orgs...
23:43.33gevaertsnods
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23:44.38AchillionBig day tomorrow :)
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23:46.11ojwbtomorrow?
23:46.24gevaertshas an answer
23:46.48AchillionYeah. Tomorrow we dive into the projects
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23:47.57ojwbgevaerts: going to share, or should we all work it out for ourselves?
23:48.14gevaertsI haven't decided yet :)
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23:49.02gevaertsI'm not sure about naming other orgs in public in this sort of context, really
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23:49.52ojwbyeah, i know what you mean
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23:49.57xanat0sOut of curiousity, anyone have the total number of applicants this year (not number of accepted)
23:50.02ojwbit's kind of public info
23:50.13ojwb!numapps | xanat0s
23:50.15gsocbotxanat0s: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted.
23:50.15Achillion4144 students submitted 5999 proposals
23:50.32xanat0sojwb: thnx
23:50.46ojwbinteresting that the ratio hasn't dropped much
23:50.59xanat0swas just thinking the same thing
23:51.00ojwbi guess the 20-proposal students weren't as common as it felt
23:51.14Achillion/bin/sh: calc1192/4144: No such file or directory
23:51.16ojwband you were ~15 times more likely to see them
23:51.20Achillionwat. meh
23:51.22Achillion~0.28764478764478764479
23:52.16ojwbnot really a meaningful measure of your "chances" though
23:53.08galaxyAbstractorShould the "Additional information" field be filled in, or is it optional?
23:53.15gevaertsojwb: if I'm looking at the same email you were thinking of, it's not that organisation
23:53.22ojwbok
23:53.27xanat0sI was a tad annoyed by the fact that 3 of the orgs didn't even bother commenting or leaving feedback..so unprofessional
23:53.29ojwbi only recall one
23:54.30ojwbi think some orgs don't have the resources to comment on all proposals so don't comment on any and just judge as they come in
23:54.57derdongalaxyAbstractor: it's in my TODO list, but I don't know what the expected content is
23:55.00ojwbthough if you sent in more than 3 proposals, I doubt they were all good
23:55.26ojwbgalaxyAbstractor, derdon: I think it's a public summary which appears on google-melange.com
23:55.36xanat0sojwb: I spent 7 days putting together 5 proposals. So no, they weren't crap
23:55.55ojwbso ideally write it so that it makes sense by itself to someone not very familiar with the org or your project
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23:56.29derdonojwb: so it's like the abstract but with a different target audience?
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23:56.41xanat0sand I was accepted on what I thought was my weakest proposal :P
23:56.47ojwbhmm, perhaps i'm thinking of the abstract
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23:57.11derdonojwb: perhaps, yes
23:57.31ojwbfill it in and then look at the page via a different browser, or in "secret browsing" mode?
23:58.10chroI'm having a problem
23:58.41ojwbyou should be able to edit it later anyway
23:58.42chroin the todo list I have the following: "School name selected from autocomplete: no"
23:59.05ojwbthat's OK if your school name isn't in the autocomplete list
23:59.16ojwbat least from what I recall from last year
23:59.20ojwbchro: ^
23:59.24chroThe name of my school is not in English using the auto-complete, but it says "It would be most wonderful if you could provide your school's name in English"
23:59.45chroso I provided it in English

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