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00:39.08woooHello. I am selected for gsoc. I want to know google will send payement card to us by post.right?
00:39.26ojwbwooo: yes
00:40.27ojwbi don't know what the cut off is for address updates, if that's what you're wondering
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00:42.25woooojwb: so will they send it before 17th june or it can be delayed? and also the other fun welcoming packages will be send with it or after completetion of gsoc ?
00:43.26ojwbthere's usually some stickers and stuff I think
00:43.45ojwbi don't know when it is sent
00:44.00ojwbit's may be hard to delay
00:44.27ojwbthere's only one carols, and exceptions to the standard pattern eat a lot of time
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00:44.43ojwbwooo: can you give a relative's address if you're moving then?
00:46.34woooojwb: I am not moving. I am just curious to know.:)
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02:39.16foulwall_!next
02:39.17gsocbotfoulwall_: "next" is Community Bonding Period: Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects.
02:39.28foulwall_!countdown
02:39.29gsocbotfoulwall_: "countdown" is see the topic
02:39.35foulwall_!topic
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02:47.57ojwbfoulwall_: try /topic
02:48.16ojwbthough that factoid is stale
02:48.24ojwb!forget countdown
02:48.25gsocbotojwb: The operation succeeded.
02:48.33ojwbthere's nothing to countdown to in the near future
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06:14.31vighneshHello ! I had some trouble with one of my TODOs
06:17.25jjs1vighnesh: Ask and somebody may be able to help :-)
06:17.53vighneshMy College isn't listed in the auto complete !
06:18.05kblinvighnesh: just fill it in yourself then?
06:18.06jjs1Fill it in manually :-)
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06:19.28valorievighnesh: have you read the gsoc student manual?
06:19.38valorieI lot of these questions are covered there
06:19.46valorieon flossmanuals
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06:20.10SunuTheNinja!studentmanual
06:20.13vighneshvalorie: can you point me to it ?
06:20.19valorie!faq
06:20.20gsocbotvalorie: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page
06:20.27davidfetter!!
06:20.27valoriemaybe from there
06:20.29davidfetterhrm
06:20.30SunuTheNinja!studentguide
06:20.30gsocbotSunuTheNinja: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/
06:20.41davidfetter!help
06:20.41gsocbotdavidfetter: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
06:20.49SunuTheNinja*pat* *pat*
06:20.54valoriethanks, SunuTheNinja
06:21.02SunuTheNinja:)
06:21.04jjs1vighnesh, valorie: The two documents referred to in my acceptance email would have answered almost all the questions I've seen on this channel
06:21.14valorieheh
06:21.21valorieamazing!
06:21.26jjs1[0] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentinfo
06:21.32valorieas if these people had done this before, or something
06:21.34jjs1[1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentpaymentcards
06:21.35valorie:-)
06:22.16jjs1Yeah. But I'm pretty sure they also expect people to ask anyway xD
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06:24.41valorieyup, every year I've been involved
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06:27.22jjs1Also the system relies on computer science students reading manuals :-P
06:28.44valoriehmmm, if CS students don't read the documentation, no wonder so much documentation is in bad shape!
06:28.57valoriereads docs, writes docs
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06:29.37kblinthat's not limited to CS students, btw
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06:31.06valorieI know, my husband never reads docs either
06:31.11valoriedrives me nuts
06:31.31valoriedrives him nuts when I'm reading about my new phone instead of setting it up!
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06:33.52jjs1valorie: I think I'm similar to your husband.
06:34.06jjs1So perhaps the problem is the imbalance of males to females in CS :-)
06:34.16kblinshrugs
06:34.26valoriethat certainly is a huge problem, at least in the west
06:34.41kblinnone of my female co-workers reads program docs
06:35.16jjs1kblin: Yeah. Should have included: </supposition>
06:35.21valorielol
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06:35.51valoriethat said, if fiddling with devices works without reading the docs first, why not?
06:36.01valorieI'm a reader
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06:36.58jjs1The worst thing is when they don't work intuitively but the developer didn't bother to write a manual.
06:37.04vighneshjjs1, Im sorry but I can't find anything related to College name not showing up in auto-complete
06:37.21vighneshjjs1, in the documents you pointed out
06:37.23jjs1vighnesh: You can take kblin's word on it
06:37.51jjs1vighnesh: Sorry, I'll have a look
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06:38.39vighneshjjs1: I fiiled it in manually, But there is still a big red "NO" in my TODOs next to "School name selected from auto-complete"
06:39.46jjs1My mistake. It's actually written below the box in red letters:
06:39.49jjs1"Also, please try to select your school's name from the dropdown. If your school is not listed, just enter it manually."
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06:41.30valorieSchool Name: Please enter the full name of your school, college or university in this field. Please use the complete formal name of your school, e.g. UC Berkeley instead of Cal or UCB. It would be most wonderful if you could provide your school's name in English, as all the program administrators speak English as their first language and it will make it much easier for us to assemble program statistics, etc., later if we can easily read the name of
06:41.33valorieyour school.
06:42.18valoriefrom http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/userguide found by googling "gsoc college name not found on dropdown"
06:42.37valoriecould be in the 2013 FAQ as well, but that popped up first
06:43.01jjs1vighnesh: You should listen to kblin and valorie before me; I'm just a new student participant. But ultimately we're all saying the same thing. I hope that makes you worry less. :-)
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06:48.54vighneshI did exactly that, I entered it manually, the TODO list still shows NO. And valorie the 2012 userguide doesn't mention my issue, "College name" and "drop down" are found at 2 seperate arease on the page
06:49.06vighneshareas*
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06:50.01jjs1I believe the "School name selected from autocomplete" entry would have 'No' if you entered it manually.
06:50.36vighneshIsn't it necessary to complete all the TODOs ?
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06:51.09jjs1You've only been asked to do the tax form and enrolment form. Though I can see your logic
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06:53.34olly_vighnesh: if the name of your college isn't in the drop down, it's OK to enter it manually
06:54.17jjs1vighnesh: Surely it's safe to follow the imperative given in the form itself.
06:54.29jjs1i.e. "Also, please try to select your school's name from the dropdown. If your school is not listed, just enter it manually."
06:54.39vighnesholly_:So one NO in my TODOs shouldn't matter ?
06:55.14olly_it's OK if you have to enter it manually
06:55.31olly_if you can select it, that's better, as then it's easier to match up for statistics
06:56.00vighneshOkay !
06:56.14olly_this seems to cause a lot of questions, so perhaps you should open a ticket in the melange tracker
06:56.18olly_if there isn't one already
06:56.46olly_it does seem confusing to have a "TODO" entry for something which people can't do
06:57.32olly_jjs1: there were similar questions last year too
06:57.53jjs1Ah. Alright
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07:02.06vighnesholly_ : Will do it
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07:02.46harshkothariCollege id card with June 2013 is valid for proof of enrollment
07:02.48harshkothari??
07:03.06jjs1is afk
07:04.39harryxiyouWhen should we submit these proofs to Google?
07:04.50harshkothariharryxiyou: any time
07:05.18harshkothariharryxiyou: but before 21st june
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07:12.00mancoolgundahi everyone
07:12.27mancoolgundaI had some queries regarding the documents to be submitted as part of GSoC?
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07:14.28harshkotharimancoolgunda: all have queries :)
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07:17.09mancoolgundaharshkothari: ok, but who would clear our doubts?
07:17.54harshkotharimancoolgunda: we have to ask after 10 hours at that time so many members are online
07:19.06valoriemancoolgunda: why not ask your question, rather than asking to ask?
07:19.32vshivamRead these two docs first though. A lot of questions are already answered here.
07:19.33vshivamhttp://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentinfo
07:19.38vshivamhttp://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentpaymentcards
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07:26.14mancoolgundaBefore submitting my tax forms and enrollment forms, I wanted to get them checked to see if they were sufficient. Should I directly mail them to carols?
07:27.03mancoolgundavalorie: ^
07:27.42valorieno, just submit them
07:27.57valorieif she needs something more, she'll contact you
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07:28.54mancoolgundaok cool.
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07:29.20mancoolgundaand the deadline for submission is 21st June, right?
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07:31.48valorieyes
07:31.56valorieit's all in melange
07:31.59valorieand in your email
07:32.04valorieall the links you need
07:32.07valorie:-)
07:32.33harryxiyouharshkothari: thanks for your reply ;-)
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07:44.00ankitmahatoany one there?
07:44.27ankitmahatowe had to fill shipping address if it was different from the contact address, right?
07:44.33ankitmahatojust wanted to confirm.
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07:47.41kaiankitmahato: yup
07:47.48kaiankitmahato: just as the form says
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07:48.21ankitmahatokai: thankx :)
07:49.13MrDHatMy college is not listed in the autocomplete list on the Profile form. What should be done in this case?
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07:51.57kaiMrDHat: fill it in manually?
07:52.32MrDHatkai: But my todo says I need to fill in from the autocomplete list.
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07:53.45valorieMrDHat: "Also, please try to select your school's name from the dropdown. If your school is not listed, just enter it manually."
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07:55.45kai!learn school autocomplete as If your school is not listed in the autocomplete, just enter it manually.
07:55.47gsocbotkai: "school autocomplete" is If your school is not listed in the autocomplete, just enter it manually.
07:55.51MrDHatvalorie: Yeah, I did that earlier while applying but that 'No' in the todo list worries me.
07:56.11valorieif you have filled it in, don't worry about it
07:56.25valorieyou are just harder to use for statistical purposes
07:56.39MrDHatAll right, thanks :)
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08:15.25AchillionOk, so I've been hanging out in the channel and I've been watching the discussion group but I'm still unsure about something. Basically, I have the same issue discussed at the end of this thread https://groups.google.com/d/topic/google-summer-of-code-students-list/11COGUqzNPs/discussion . Specifically, we have this statement "If you do not do any work inside the United States, regardless of where else you may do work, only a Foreign Certification Form i
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08:19.59Uli-Achillion: split your sentences please
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08:20.29AchillionYeah, I hadn't realised it was that big
08:20.33AchillionSorry about that
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09:09.28leuchtkaeferHi. My todo list says "School name selected from autocomplete: No" What does it mean? I don't understand what I need to do. The school name is correct
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09:09.52kai!school autocomplete | leuchtkaefer
09:09.52gsocbotleuchtkaefer: "school autocomplete" is If your school is not listed in the autocomplete, just enter it manually.
09:10.04kaihm, actually, I misread
09:10.20kaileuchtkaefer: did you enter the school name manually?
09:10.33leuchtkaeferis what i did, the thing is that is marked red with a NO in my todo list
09:10.37leuchtkaeferyes
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09:11.13banasHow do I return the tax form? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentinfo#outside
09:11.26banasPrint, scan, upload?
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09:13.28leuchtkaeferkai: Do I need to do something else related with the name of my school? I am not sure why is marked red on my todo list
09:14.24kaileuchtkaefer: it just means statistics will be a bit harder
09:14.42kaileuchtkaefer: as far as I'm aware nothing you need to worry about
09:14.45jdreimannAfter a student was accepted, how much flexibility remains on what the student will actually work on?
09:15.26Uli-jdreimann: a little, but not much.
09:15.42Uli-jdreimann: the student was accepted based on his/her proposal. that's what he/she should be working on
09:15.54jdreimannThanks Uli-
09:16.06valorieultimately though, that is between your and your mentor(s)
09:16.55Uli-jdreimann: if you find out about something unforseen, e.g. a technical difficulty that neither the student nor you anticipated, the goals can be adjusted
09:17.10leuchtkaeferkai: ok. thanks
09:17.23Uli-valorie: jdreimann is the mentor ;)
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09:18.00Uli-jdreimann: but is should still be in the scope of the proposal and not something completely different imo
09:18.06valorieheh
09:18.14valorieof course
09:18.17kaijdreimann: in principle, the important part for google is the "pass/fail" in the mid-term and final surveys
09:18.37valorieI've seen where a patch from someone else was accepted, removing part of the work
09:18.46valorieso it was extended elsewhere
09:19.12kaijdreimann: I'd try and keep close to the suggested proposal, but flexible enough to actually get anywhere
09:20.12Uli-kai: i disagree. the student was accepted on the basis of a proposal. the work should be in its scope. re-defining it to something completely different is not valid imo
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09:21.43kaiUli-: and where on the planet does real-life software development go exactly according to plan?
09:21.51kaiI might want to move there
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09:23.07Uli-kai: you don't get what I'm trying to say. deviation is ok. something completely different is not.
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09:24.11kaiI didn't disagree with that, did I?
09:25.06kaisorry if I sound a bit cranky, I'm just having an intense technical discussion in another channel and might not be able to context-switch without some crankiness bleeding over
09:25.49Uli-kai: it sounded like you implied it whith your "all that counts is the evaluation" sentence
09:27.28Uli-kai: we're in open source, i'm used to petulance ;)
09:29.54kaiUli-: I'm just saying that google looks at the evaluations
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09:30.32kaiif you deviate from the proposal too much and there's some contention about the decisions, you'll probably end up annoying carols
09:30.36kaiand nobody wants that
09:31.09Uli-kai: exactly what i'm saying.
09:31.31kaigreat :)
09:32.43derdonAm I the only one who's excited about the Tux coding 4 kids project? unfortunately there isn't more info about it in the ideas page, I guess it's a blue sky project
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09:38.01jdreimannSorry, connection dropped after Uli- mentioned petulance :) Thanks kai and Uli-, I think I got the gist.
09:39.07Uli-jdreimann: if you want to have more concrete input, ask on the asf's mentor list and give some details.
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09:41.01kodabkai, what's the technical discussion in the other channel about? ;)
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09:50.03banasHow do I return the tax form? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentinfo#outside
09:50.08banasprint, scan, upload?
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10:10.00galaxyAbstractorHey, my question was left unanswered yesterday so I try again:
10:10.01galaxyAbstractorCan the tax form be filled in electronically or do I have to print it and scan it? And is the address field really your entire address? Here in Sweden on contracts it's just the city you are in when signing usually
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10:23.12SunuTheNinjagalaxyAbstractor: print sign scan upload.
10:24.08galaxyAbstractorAh, then I'll have to run over to campus to print it. I guess a photo of the printed document is ok? I don't have a scanner
10:25.01akif500If photo is hugh res then no problem i think
10:25.11akif500High Resolution*
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11:44.42elixirwaitingForResults: are you still waiting for some results? :P
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12:11.28nikhatzihello everybody, i have a question. I uploaded my semester registration form (including all the lessons i've been enrolled in). Is this form accepted as a proof of enrollment? thank you in advance
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12:14.07Achillionnikhatzi: Rather than ask questions on the mailing list about whether or not the document you have is acceptable as proof of enrollment, it is much preferred that you simply send the document to us. If it is not what we need, we will request an alternate document from you. (from  http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentinfo#proof )
12:14.40Achillion(not an admin here or anything like that, just a student that hangs around the channel)
12:15.18nikhatziAchillion, thank you for the reply. One last question. Should i go to an agency to translate my enrollment form in english, or in native language (as given from my institution) is enough?
12:15.59AchillionNo idea. Can't help you there. I just saw your first question and pasted a sentence :)
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12:16.23nikhatziok thank you very much for you time :)
12:16.46derdonnikhatzi: "It is highly preferable for your proof of enrollment documentation to be submitted to us in English. If you cannot submit documents in English, please provide a translation along with the document in .txt format."
12:16.54derdonpasted from the exactly same page :P
12:17.04nikhatzioh, nice :D didn't see that :D
12:17.19derdon(also a student who just hangs around)
12:17.31nikhatzihehehe thnx :D
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12:32.10olly_nikhatzi: i think you can just translate it yourself
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12:32.47nikhatzithnx olly_ , that's what i'm going to do :)
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14:10.36jjs1So many emails. Save me Gmail filters!
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14:14.35GorillaWarfarejjs1: It also helps to set the list subscription to "digest"
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14:15.20jjs1I'll admit: I actually like having filter fodder.
14:15.41jjs1Gives my inbox a busy feel :-)
14:16.10jjs1(but thanks!)
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14:26.20derdonwtf. 46 new e-mails. I never got so many at once
14:28.02Lenniejjs1, I got 8688 emails last month :P
14:28.07CrystallisYeah, I started organizing them under a new label.
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14:42.19esachello
14:42.31esaci know it's a little offtopic but i hope there is no mess right now
14:42.47esacis someone ehre?
14:42.49esachere*
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14:45.24jjs1esac: ask and people will help :-)
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14:46.53jjs1Lennie: That's impressive. I haven't built up mine quite so much.
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14:49.43Lenniejjs1, believe me. You don't want to :)
14:49.53LennieEspecially not if you are an inbox 0 person like me :P
14:51.35esaci proposed an open source project to google office
14:51.47esacand it didn't get accepted (no surprise)
14:52.26esacis there a way to get support outside the GSoC i really want to create it
14:53.59hratsimi1ahjust do it!
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14:54.10esaci'm doing it right now
14:54.17hratsimi1ahgood job!
14:54.27esacbut having support from something big like google would help :)
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14:54.41hratsimi1ahyou could try kickstarter... but you'd have something to offer back.
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14:54.57esaci do have but i'm not in the US
14:55.26paultagesac: are you in college?
14:55.37esacyes
14:55.42derdonesac: if it's related to astrophysics or space in general, there is Summer of Code in Space ;)
14:55.43paultagesac: talk to your advisor
14:55.56esacwe don't have advisors here
14:55.57paultagthey can often help or find funding in the lab
14:55.58esacitaly
14:56.03paultagsurely you do
14:56.31paultagyou don't have an academic advisor, or a professor you're closer with?
14:56.47esactried two days ago they offered help (mail support)
14:57.01esacwhich is awesome but i need to buy like 1000€ worth of hardware
14:57.21paultago.O
14:57.30esac:(
14:58.11paultagesac: I was able to write code all throughout Uni, and my school was nice enough to support my research throughout :)
14:58.26paultagPerhaps you can try again, see if you can get access to a university cluster or some of the research budget.
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14:59.57esacwill do
15:04.04esacpaultag where are you from?
15:04.11paultagUnited States
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17:19.08chrohi
17:19.19AchillionSo much code!
17:19.28gdhhello, chro!
17:19.29chrocarols is not here :\
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17:35.34derdonwhere do I upload the foreign certification form? the page https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentinfo#outside doesn't say anything about it and in the "todos" section it is not selectable to be uploaded
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17:37.54blast007derdon: did you check on the student mailing list?  from the FAQ item about these documents: "Detailed instructions for obtaining and returning these documents to Google will be sent to the private students' mailing list. We will need to have all of this documentation on file before issuing payment to a particular student."
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17:39.26derdonblast007: then I guess I just have to wait
17:40.26jjs1derdon: The section you referenced with your anchor link is a sub-section of the "Tax Forms" section. Have a look at the table of contents.
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17:42.25jjs1So it follows that you should use the 'Tax form' entry in the todo list (though my word is unofficial).
17:43.21blast007ah yeah, didn't notice the 'How to Return Documentation to Google' section on the linked page ;)
17:44.24derdonit is not clear. but yes, if I had to guess some option, I would also use the tax form entry
17:44.50derdonblast007: I did read it but it doesn't explicitly answer my question
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17:47.18jjs1derdon: Also the form (which you should have read before you signed) says "Google requires that you complete this “Foreign Certification” document for the purposes of U.S. tax compliance". :-)
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17:49.02derdonjjs1: might have something to do with … taxes
17:49.11derdonand I haven't signed it yet ;)
17:49.35jjs1derdon: hehe, righto
17:52.39hiddenpearlsanyone can tell, how many students are accepted from Pakistan ?
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17:53.51gdhhiddenpearls, is Google allowed to do commerce with Pakistan?
17:54.07gdhit might not be, which means that no one in Pakistan is eligible
17:55.34dhaungdh: please don't spread misinformation
17:55.58dhaungdh: please read the FAQ, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as
17:55.59gdhdhaun, okay
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17:57.41AndroUser_I've got a question with regards to the proof of enrollment: my university only accepts students in September and I got my bachelor in March, what should I send?
17:59.32hiddenpearlsgdh, yes why ??
17:59.48gdhhiddenpearls, never mind
17:59.50gdhI was wrong
18:00.02hiddenpearlsI was a student in 2010 from Pakistan
18:00.14MatthewWilkesAndroUser_: An acceptance letter
18:00.32hiddenpearlsand Mentor afterwards
18:00.51hiddenpearlsgdh, hmmm
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18:05.02AndroUser_MatthewWilkes: the problem is that the acceptance letter will come in September too. I could try and ask to be reviewed now, but then the approval won't be before 27 may
18:05.15MatthewWilkesAndroUser_: Have you been accepted?
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18:05.48AndroUser_Acceptance in my country is decided in September
18:06.01AndroUser_But it's automatic
18:06.16MatthewWilkesAndroUser_: Then you'll need to get them to write you a letter
18:06.37AndroUser_Except if you, say, go from history to matha
18:06.50MatthewWilkes"…Google defines a student as an individual enrolled in or accepted into an accredited institution…" - so you need them to say you're enrolled or accepted
18:07.21AndroUser_But the letter would be dated after the 27 may, is that still ok?
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18:07.49MatthewWilkesAndroUser_: I don't know, you should ask carols
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18:08.19AndroUser_I hope so. I'll ask carol
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18:11.00dhaunI would guess the date of acceptance counts, not the date of the letter - but ask Carol
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18:20.22mancoolgundahi
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18:20.38gdhhello, mancoolgunda
18:21.09gdhbut it is time for me to go
18:21.12gdho/
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18:24.19mancoolgundacarol: ping
18:24.45gevaertsShe's not here right now
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18:30.24mancoolgundagevaerts: so I was facing a small problem. I havent been able to get in touch with my mentor since a very long time. I have tried everything, sending mails, waiting for him on IRC but could never find him. Actually I had asked feedback on my proposal from another mentor of my org and my org admin also helped me a lot. I have sent a mail to him today also regarding community-bonding period but no reply till now.
18:30.33mancoolgundaSo what is the ideal thing that should be done in such a case?
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18:31.05mancoolgundaOf course I plan to talk about this matter with other mentors and org admin but wanted to know what should be done ideally.
18:31.15gevaertsThey're the first ones to help, anyway
18:31.32gevaertsIf that still leads to nothing, contacting carols by email is probably a good idea
18:31.53gevaertsIdeally the organisation can put in another mentor
18:32.14mancoolgundayah I heard that there are backup mentors always available.
18:32.38mancoolgundaOk, then I will discuss with my org first and then will talk to carol maybe.
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18:32.41gevaertsThere should be
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18:57.51mancoolgundaelixir: hi
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19:15.33findAnswerhii can any one help how to find mentor details of an accepted project
19:15.34findAnswer?
19:16.13findAnswer@kia : where in google melange do we find the mentor details for an accepted project
19:18.07getAnswer@kai how to find mentor information in melange page
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19:25.01getAnswerCan any one help me find mentor details on GSOC Melange page
19:25.02getAnswer?
19:26.05zero_levelgetAnswer ask your organization, if u still dont know abt mentor. :-)
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19:28.33banasgetAnswer: I think they're listed along with the selected students in melange.
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20:25.59harshkotharischool id card with june 2013 end date is valid for enrollment proof ?
20:26.44ankitkvjust submit whatever you have, if there's a problem with it you'll be notified
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20:29.23harshkothariankitkv: thanks :)
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