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02:44.41ffledgling!numapps
02:44.41gsocbotffledgling: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 orgs and 1212 of 6685 proposals (by 4258 students) were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs and 1116 of 5474 proposals (by 3731 students) were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs and 1026 of 5539 propsals (by 3464 students) were accepted.
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05:08.18Crystallis!next
05:08.19gsocbotCrystallis: "next" is Community Bonding Period: Students get to know mentors, read documentation, get up to speed to begin working on their projects.
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05:34.40nlminhtlIs anyone from russian speaking countries here?
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06:10.05notdannlminhtl: da
06:14.28derdonI can say "niet" :D
06:14.40derdonand that's almost the only russian word I know
06:15.04notdanheh
06:15.40darnirWhen can the selected students expect the details of the ACM Membership? I wanted to read certain papers available through one.
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06:23.51nlminhtlnotdan: nice :). Look PM
06:23.57nobody0472Hi all, I have the following question: My University will organize an 48h open Air CodeCamp in the open Air bath in our town. This will happen in the end of August, in Germany, close to Hannover. Is there any interest and any support possible from the GSOC? Thanks.
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06:26.04nlminhtlnobody0472: If you give a VISA :D
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06:33.55nobody0472if somebody can support such a CodeCamp in Germany, don't hesitate to contact me: o.droegehorn@googlemail.com. Thanks
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07:13.41mgetchhey everyone how's prep for the summer going?
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07:50.26kaimorning folks
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07:53.03harshkotharikai: good morning
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08:03.31armax00morning
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08:04.23darnirMorning!
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08:05.00darnirwishes people good morning after eating lunch.
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08:07.32armax00thinks that darnir comes from the future
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08:10.55darnirIt's a timezone thing. I'm returning from my Luncha nd kai is wishing Good Morning.
08:11.44armax00I know I know, just joking :D
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08:18.32kaiI'm just following IGT, international greeting time
08:18.51kaiit's always appropriate to say "good morning" when joining an IRC channel :)
08:18.56armax00eheheh
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08:24.49darnirhas a lot to learn from kai!
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08:57.47armax00just for curiosity: I am currently moving from one house to another. I changed now the address in my profile. Is this going to affect the shipping of the welcome package or should it be already on the way?
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09:03.53darnirarmax00: I'm guessing the packages are already on their way home. You should contacts carols directly for this.
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09:14.57examon!logs
09:14.58gsocbotexamon: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
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09:41.23armax00darnir: thanks, it won't be much of a problem since there are still people I know living there in case I am not there anymore
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09:42.38ruwanegohello gsocers
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09:43.18ruwanegowhat is the email address I have to send the tax forms to?
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09:51.48|Kev|ruwanego: You might want to consider not sending your home address and the suchlike to public mailing lists.
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09:53.49ruwanego|Kev|:it was purely accidental and I regret it.
09:54.36ruwanego|Kev|:My sincere apologies for the ignorance.
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09:56.12|Kev|ruwanego: It's not something you need to apologise for - I'm concerned for you releasing such things :)
09:56.34ruwanego|Kev|: I understand
09:56.39ruwanego|Kev|: :)
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12:08.13thesquashis this channel for students only or is there anyone official who can answer questions?
12:08.52MatthewWilkesthesquash: There's nobody official here right now, but you can get unofficial answers for many questions here
12:09.09MatthewWilkesFor official things, it's best to speak to Carol directly, over email or when she comes online in a few hours
12:09.47thesquashthanks
12:10.23kaithere's like one official person on the planet, so if everybody asked her all the questions, that wouldn't scale
12:10.28thesquashi was just going to ask if non-university students can apply?
12:10.45thesquashunless its not actually a person...
12:10.59thesquashleave it to google to automate the Q&A
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12:11.38MatthewWilkesthesquash: Students in higher education can apply, this is in the FAQ under eligibility
12:11.45kai!faq | thesquash
12:11.45gsocbotthesquash: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page
12:11.50MatthewWilkesBut, it's too late for this year anyway, the application period ended some time ago
12:12.26yogev_ezrathesquash: you can apply for us though, we allow non-university students: http://board.kolibrios.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2326
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12:14.03thesquashyogev_erza: thanks for the link, ill take a look at that
12:14.12yogev_ezrathesquash: np
12:15.46thesquashkai: my question isn't answered in the FAQ. i phrased it badly, what I meant was, can non-higher ed. students who have the equivalent CS experience through working still apply
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12:16.14thesquashI'm guessing the answer is no, but I just wanted to double check
12:17.45yogev_ezrathesquash: Did you mean you are not a student at all, or you are not a student in university but a student somewhere else?
12:17.46kaithesquash: CS education is not a requirement for eligibility
12:18.48kaiI mean arguably if you can't convince me that you can code, I'm not going to select you for my proposal ;)
12:19.03kaibut CS education doesn't do that per-se
12:19.12thesquash"Google defines a student as an individual enrolled in or accepted into an accredited institution including (but not necessarily limited to) colleges, universities, masters programs, PhD programs and undergraduate programs."
12:19.26thesquashI'm a guy in my teens who dropped out of school to work in tech startups
12:19.40yogev_ezrathesquash: You can apply to GSoC if you are a student in accredited higher education institution, regardless of the program. What's your exact status right now? You are not a student at all?
12:20.01yogev_ezrathesquash: If you are not a student at all, then you cannot apply to GSoC
12:20.29thesquashok, thanks for your help anyway
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12:21.40aciid_thesquash: GSoC enrollment period is anyway over for this year, but if you get admission in some university by next year you can apply to GSoC for next year
12:22.35thesquashgot it
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12:24.15gevaertsWell, if there is a gsoc next year, anyway
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12:47.58kaimorning Lennie
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12:48.13Lenniegood morning
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14:36.57chrohi
14:38.15chroshould I have a website for showing my progress with the project ?
14:38.39aciid_chro : thats upto you unless it is asked by the org
14:39.31chrook
14:39.53chroaciid_, and do you know if it common to build a design document before starting the code (here in GSoC) ?
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14:40.55aciid_My mentor asked me to make it not sure if its common but you should have design made before writing actual code
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14:41.23chrook thanks
14:41.28|Kev|aciid_: There is significant disagreement on this point.
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14:41.56|Kev|But irrespective of whether design-up-front is worthwile ,you should work in the way desired by the org.
14:42.18aciid_right
14:42.31chro|Kev|, but the org is not saying anything to me. I just ask questions and they answer, nothing more
14:42.37chrothey are not demanding anything
14:42.43etobiHej!
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14:42.54aciid_but even gsoc student guidelines states its better to have a design in mind before actual code
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14:43.13|Kev|chro: I would personally not spend time writing design documents if they don't ask for them.
14:43.29|Kev|There is a world of difference between 'have a design in mind' and 'write a design document' :)
14:43.36aciid_but you're right, better to do how orgs prefer it
14:43.36etobione of our students cant complete his todos: his school does not appear in the school name atuo complete.
14:43.37etobiCan s/o help me how to solve this?
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14:44.04etobis/atuo/auto/
14:44.05chro|Kev|, I agree with you
14:44.08gevaertsetobi: that particular todo is safe to ignore if the school isn't in the list
14:44.10neverpanicetobi: just enter it manually.
14:44.26aciid_oh! my bad , missed the word document
14:44.28etobiokay. thank you :-)
14:45.02kaietobi: makes collecting statistics for google a bit harder, but I guess they'll then have it in their list for next year
14:45.09kai!disclaimer
14:45.11kaihmm
14:45.36kai!learn disclaimer as If Google decides to run GSoC again next year.
14:45.36gsocbotkai: "disclaimer" is If Google decides to run GSoC again next year.
14:45.38kaithere
14:45.40kai:)
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14:46.35gevaerts!learn disclaimerdisclaimer as Google re-evaluates gsoc every year. The fact that they haven't decided yet if there will be one next year doesn't mean anything
14:46.35gsocbotgevaerts: "disclaimerdisclaimer" is Google re-evaluates gsoc every year. The fact that they haven't decided yet if there will be one next year doesn't mean anything
14:46.40gevaertsJust to be complete :)
14:46.59etobithanks for your quick help.
14:47.00etobiHave a great summer!
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16:55.41HaikuUserinfo: KolibriOS Summer of Code 2013 students!  http://board.kolibrios.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2326 Fasm programming for kolibriOS!
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17:30.47darnircarols: When should the selected students expect the details of the ACM membership?
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17:30.55carolsdarnir: before june 21
17:31.45darnircarols: Oh ok. BTW, thanks for arranging that membership! Surely very useful for a lot of us!
17:32.08carolsyw\
17:32.10darniris eagerly awaiting his ACM membership details.
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17:57.54AnkitAgrawaldarnir : I am unaware about the ACM membership that we would get with GSoC. Can you please enlighten me by posting the relevant links?
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18:03.03ManojKumarAnkitAgrawal: Details are there in the email that was sent to us :)
18:04.12AnkitAgrawalManojKumar : Thanks. I will take a look at it more carefully.
18:04.34ManojKumarAnkitAgrawal : np! :)
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