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| 10:12.20 | sunu | !thanks | sunu |
| 10:12.20 | gsocbot | sunu: "thanks" is You're welcome! |
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| 11:04.52 | xchg | is there anyone from slovakia here? |
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| 11:08.58 | xchg | do I need to activate ATM transactions specifically or is it enough if I set my pin? |
| 11:09.27 | Karlik | set PIN as I know |
| 11:09.48 | olly_ | you might want to raise the ATM withdrawal limit though |
| 11:10.51 | olly_ | xchg: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/studentpaymentcards is worth reading if you haven't already |
| 11:12.06 | olly_ | that suggests you do need to explicitly activate ATM transactions actually - "Activate ATM transactions, if desired, and set a PIN by calling +001-610-941-4607" |
| 11:14.00 | xchg | I have just read that that's why I asked |
| 11:14.10 | xchg | it wasn't clear to me thanks |
| 11:14.29 | xchg | I guess I can also activate the transactions by calling +001-610-941-4607 ? |
| 11:16.30 | olly_ | i have no more information than what's there |
| 11:16.53 | olly_ | i guess you could try the card in an atm and see if it works |
| 11:18.14 | xchg | it doesn't |
| 11:18.31 | xchg | i have set the pin already |
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| 11:23.54 | olly_ | xchg: i think you'll need to ring them again then |
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| 13:24.22 | nlminhtl | hi guys |
| 13:24.27 | nlminhtl | who is from Ukraine? |
| 13:25.04 | sw0rdfish_ | Hello |
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| 13:30.54 | nlminhtl | sw0rdfish_: are you? |
| 13:31.03 | sw0rdfish_ | I am from UK |
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| 13:33.05 | xchg | UKraine? |
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| 13:33.38 | JordiGH | That would be .ua, n00b |
| 13:33.45 | sw0rdfish_ | I am not from Ukraine |
| 13:33.57 | JordiGH | I wonder why Canada isn't part of the UK. |
| 13:34.02 | JordiGH | We have the same bloody monarch. |
| 13:34.12 | sw0rdfish_ | Hi JordiGH |
| 13:34.14 | JordiGH | Aren't we a kingdom? Aren't we united? |
| 13:34.46 | shachaf | JordiGH: Is that really necessary? |
| 13:34.49 | sw0rdfish_ | JordiGH, it is strange. I remember coming to Toronto a few years ago and I saw the Queens head on your coins I was confused haha |
| 13:35.23 | JordiGH | shachaf: Having the same monarch? I don't think having a monarch is necessary at all. |
| 13:35.45 | JordiGH | shachaf: Or do you object to my cursing? |
| 13:35.56 | shachaf | No, calling people "n00b" and other general gratuitous rudeness. |
| 13:36.00 | xchg | do you throw away all coins when queen changes? |
| 13:36.43 | JordiGH | shachaf: What's the other general gratuitous rudeness? The "n00b" thing was because I thought I was in a different channel. |
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| 13:37.31 | xchg | no offense taken |
| 13:37.48 | JordiGH | Also, I thought xchg was joking. |
| 13:37.56 | shachaf | I got a feeling of hostility. But oh well, never mind. |
| 13:37.59 | xchg | I was |
| 13:38.01 | JordiGH | Does anyone actually think that "UK" means Ukraine? |
| 13:38.22 | JordiGH | shachaf: Can you pinpoint what made you think I was being hostile? |
| 13:38.40 | sw0rdfish_ | lol |
| 13:38.42 | JordiGH | lol |
| 13:38.42 | sw0rdfish_ | people are so emotional on here |
| 13:39.03 | shachaf | sighs. |
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| 13:39.36 | JordiGH | shachaf: It's an honest question. I think the "bloody" imprecation must have given you that impression. I just want to confirm. |
| 13:40.17 | gevaerts | JordiGH: UK does mean Ukrainian though :) |
| 13:40.25 | gevaerts | Just to keep things simple |
| 13:41.13 | JordiGH | I wonder if they actually do spell it УК. |
| 13:41.15 | shachaf | No, I don't care about blood. Like I said, never mind. |
| 13:42.07 | JordiGH | shachaf: The "n00b" thing was admittedly an aggressive action that would have been taken as friendly jostling in another channel I frequent. |
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| 19:57.32 | mike651321641 | Hallo? |
| 19:57.56 | carols | hi mike651321641 |
| 19:58.10 | mike651321641 | Hi! Is this a Google place to discuss Google Apps Scripting? |
| 19:58.16 | mike651321641 | I mean "good place" |
| 19:58.20 | carols | mike651321641: no, it's not, unfortunately :-( |
| 19:58.27 | carols | this is just for google summer of code. |
| 19:58.31 | mike651321641 | Oh ok. What is Summer of code? |
| 19:58.52 | carols | it's a university outreach program. |
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| 19:59.39 | mike651321641 | Do you know of any good IRC channels for discussing Google Apps Scripts? |
| 19:59.46 | carols | i don't, i'm sorry :-( |
| 19:59.52 | mike651321641 | Ok, thanks. |
| 20:00.05 | carols | yw |
| 20:00.17 | xchg | was anyone able to transfer money from the prepaid card to foreign account number? |
| 20:00.24 | xchg | I con't withdraw the money from ATM |
| 20:00.28 | xchg | *can't |
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| 20:01.27 | xchg | I've set the pin the whey I try to withdraw the money it says the operation is unsupported |
| 20:01.45 | xchg | s/the whey/but when/, eh |
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| 21:27.34 | xchg | what do I do if ATMs don't have the debit/credit option here? |
| 21:27.40 | xchg | I can't withdraw the money |
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| 23:04.59 | dfighter | xchg no you can't |
| 23:05.08 | dfighter | since it's not connected to any account |
| 23:05.34 | dfighter | I'm talking about transferring to another account, not the ATM |
| 23:05.48 | dfighter | you should contact your bank and ask them to help you about the ATM problems |
| 23:10.26 | xchg | but there's an option in the website to transfer money to an account |
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| 23:14.47 | Achillion | pretty sure that's US only |
| 23:15.48 | xchg | so I am pretty stuck with using the card number :/ |
| 23:15.59 | xchg | that sucks |
| 23:16.51 | Achillion | you could transfer it to a paypal account, I think |
| 23:16.56 | gevaerts | Contact citibank support and possibly carols |
| 23:17.16 | Achillion | right, yeah, you might have better luck calling citibank and asking them what your options are |
| 23:17.25 | xchg | Achillion: that doesn't really help anything |
| 23:17.33 | xchg | k I will do it |
| 23:17.58 | Achillion | well, if it's in a paypal account, and you have another card that "accepts paypal withdrawals", you could then withdraw the money at a small-ish cost |
| 23:18.53 | gevaerts | strongly recommends trying to get the actual issue resolved before setting up convoluted money laundering lookalikes |
| 23:19.31 | Achillion | well yeah, listen to gevaerts |
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| 23:30.15 | dfighter | Achillion you cannot transfer it to a paypal account |
| 23:30.21 | dfighter | you cannot top up from a card |
| 23:30.28 | dfighter | only a regular account |
| 23:30.54 | dfighter | you can probably work around the rules using 2 paypal accounts |
| 23:31.04 | dfighter | but I wouldn't recommend that |
| 23:31.13 | dfighter | but then it's your money |
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| 23:32.16 | dfighter | xchg as for the website transfer |
| 23:32.20 | dfighter | why did you even register? |
| 23:32.33 | dfighter | when you were explicitly told you cannot use it... |
| 23:33.10 | dfighter | also as Achillion said it's US only, as it is an ACH transfer... |
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| 23:35.13 | dfighter | and tbh personally I'm really starting to lose faith in humanity, reading these conversations |
| 23:35.17 | dfighter | and mailing list posts... |
| 23:35.31 | Achillion | what's wrong with this conversation? |
| 23:35.34 | olly_ | in previous years, people have used ACH transfer to move the money to places like xe.com and then do currency conversion that way |
| 23:35.35 | dfighter | when even supposedly smart people get so dull... |
| 23:35.41 | olly_ | but apparently that's no longer possible |
| 23:35.45 | dfighter | yea olly_ I did that too |
| 23:35.53 | gevaerts | dfighter: people are starting to recommend listening to me. *I*'m not losing faith in humanity! ;) |
| 23:36.06 | dfighter | hehe gevaerts |
| 23:36.30 | dfighter | olly_ and it was quite convenient too |
| 23:36.47 | dfighter | actually they sent the money faster than citi delivered it to them |
| 23:37.08 | dfighter | so I was even a bit worried what would happen if for w/e reason ACH failed |
| 23:37.35 | dfighter | but then it went alright |
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| 23:39.11 | olly_ | seems a bit rash of them |
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| 23:40.25 | olly_ | i use a similar place who always seem happy to do the deal before the agreed date if the money arrives early, but not before it arrives at all |
| 23:41.06 | dfighter | olly_ well I had no problems with xe.com, after I registered |
| 23:41.16 | dfighter | however the registering process was quite annoying |
| 23:41.39 | olly_ | yeah, i tried to register with them for payments for work |
| 23:41.43 | dfighter | had to get my identity certified by an official, then they even interrogated me on the phone |
| 23:41.56 | olly_ | they didn't seem to understand I was self-employed and wanted things like articles of incorporation |
| 23:42.06 | olly_ | i just gave up and went elsewhere |
| 23:43.09 | dfighter | yea, at one point I got so fed up I almost gave up as well |
| 23:43.44 | dfighter | since no-one was willing to certify my identity |
| 23:44.21 | dfighter | I pretty much went thru a cyclic directed graph xD |
| 23:44.24 | gevaerts | Yay, my browser profile is 2725 days old today :) |
| 23:44.51 | dfighter | but then I found out the "notars" can at least certify my documents |
| 23:44.56 | dfighter | and they accepted that |
| 23:45.15 | dfighter | after some emails exchanged |
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| 23:53.34 | xchg | dfighter: I can see the list of transactions and balance there |
| 23:53.59 | dfighter | xchg you can see that without registering too... |
| 23:54.19 | xchg | well I didn't know that |
| 23:54.30 | dfighter | just need your card number, verification code, and Google's zip code |
| 23:55.06 | dfighter | xchg it's on the site tho |
| 23:55.13 | dfighter | so then you probably forgot to read? |
| 23:55.32 | dfighter | not to mention the FAQ telling you not having access? :) |
| 23:55.57 | xchg | but I have an access |
| 23:56.03 | xchg | why does it matter if I register or not |
| 23:56.37 | dfighter | xchg what will you do if citi randomly tries to call you to verify it's really you |
| 23:56.37 | xchg | I know it was written I don't have an access, I just visited the site and it worked |
| 23:56.45 | dfighter | and then they ban your account, freezing your funds |
| 23:57.01 | dfighter | will you be crying to carols? |
| 23:57.06 | dfighter | who clearly warned you? |
| 23:57.15 | xchg | well at first they don't have my phone number |
| 23:57.27 | dfighter | my point exactly |
| 23:57.54 | dfighter | that's why they cannot verify it's really you |
| 23:57.58 | xchg | so they google number to verify it's google? makes sense to me |
| 23:58.10 | dfighter | but it's not Google's card |
| 23:58.11 | xchg | I didn't even submit my name |
| 23:58.12 | dfighter | it's yours |
| 23:58.16 | xchg | no it's not |
| 23:58.21 | xchg | my name is not even on the card |
| 23:58.24 | xchg | I just posses it |
| 23:58.28 | dfighter | huh? |
| 23:58.31 | dfighter | how is that possible? |
| 23:58.47 | xchg | I don't know |
| 23:58.57 | xchg | I figured it's because I am not from us |
| 23:59.15 | dfighter | well I don't know about card regulations |
| 23:59.16 | dfighter | but |
| 23:59.23 | dfighter | I strongly suspect it's an invalid card then |
| 23:59.37 | dfighter | and the second you try to use it to buy something in a shop it will get confiscated |
| 23:59.41 | dfighter | and police called |
| 23:59.48 | dfighter | so I'd contact carols if I were you |
| 23:59.59 | xchg | I don't think so but I will |