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00:58.03MatthewWilkesSo, it turns out my router's 'firmware updates' are tarballs of shell scripts
00:58.24MatthewWilkesWhich is good, because it means I found one to reconfigure the DSL modem, so can get online :D
00:59.00Achillionyou using one of those open/dd-wrt firmwares?
00:59.04Achillionor official?
00:59.17MatthewWilkesofficial
00:59.38MatthewWilkesIt's a German Fritz!Box, so VDSL over ISDN
00:59.51MatthewWilkesManaged to find some scripts to reconfigure it to the UK phone system
01:00.20Achillionsaved it from certain death in the closet, then?
01:00.26MatthewWilkesYup
01:00.51MatthewWilkesIt's an expensive router, so very glad to have it working again
01:01.08AchillionI can imagine
01:02.21MatthewWilkesAlso… native ipv6!
01:02.34MatthewWilkesJust got to decide if I keep ipv4 enabled :)
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02:37.26SoylentYellow!results
02:37.26gsocbotSoylentYellow: "results" is Nice try! Come back on Monday.
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09:50.14aplavinanyone managed to increase the transaction or day limit for the card?
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09:57.54thunderstruckaplavin: Yes. There has been some posts about that on mailing list.
09:59.21introomhave withdrawn any money from the card, though. Maybe I should give it a try soon.
09:59.31introoms/have/haven't
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10:13.15aplavinthunderstruck: but how? the operator on the phone says that $400 is the maximum limit per day
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10:16.24thunderstruckaplavin: In that case, I guess, either they changes max limit since I called them or the operator was misinformed.
10:16.29thunderstruckthey changed*
10:16.56aplavinthunderstruck: and when did you call them?
10:17.24thunderstruckaplavin: After a few days when I got a card.
10:18.47aplavinthunderstruck: you said the operator your card number, then asked to increase the transaction limit (or day limit?), and he/she increased? what exact limit did you ask?
10:19.40thunderstruckaplavin: I don't recall all the details, but I asked for "ATM withdrawal limit".
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10:27.15ankitkvaplavin: ask them to increase the daily limit
10:27.29ankitkvoh
10:27.42ankitkvsorry thunderstruck already replied :p
10:29.35ankitkvaplavin: I called just a day ago, and said that I wanted to raise my daily limit. the guy informed me that my limit was raised to $4000 (more than what I need o_O)
10:30.05ankitkvI didn't tell him what I wanted it raised to. but you may have to. I guess it depends on the operator
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10:34.29nlminhtl|wHow could I get information about how many money on my GSOC card?
10:36.43examonnlminhtl|w: http://www.prepaid.citi.com/google
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11:28.04hello_worldhello everyone...i am in bit trouble while configuring acc number...i don't get the instruction..the lady say..enter your account number followed by pound key..now what is pound key ...anyone plz
11:28.19hello_world*configuring pin number
11:29.38hello_worldankitkv: dfighter you might be there.!!
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11:31.39aplavinhello_world: pound key is #
11:33.15hello_worlddamn..that key..i was entering the security pin..damn.such an ass. thank aplavin
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14:14.08Volis:o
14:14.46VolisI don't mean to sound arrogant or elitist
14:15.14JordiGHbraces self.
14:15.15Volisbut how can someone get in GSOC and not know what is pound key?
14:15.30Volis(I mean, it is a google search away)
14:15.35JordiGHCultural differences. It's sometimes also called a hash or an octothorpe.
14:15.57Volis(an important part of being a programmer is finding information with google)
14:16.13MatthewWilkesVolis: That's two questions. It's trivial to get into GSoC and not know the pound key, as the programme is open to people from outside of North America
14:16.32MatthewWilkesNot googling is part of the culture. Being self sufficient in finding answers to your problems is something GSoC tries to teach.
14:16.58VolisI implied it in the sense that... yes, being self sufficient in finding answers.
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14:32.38kaiVolis: but arguably it's confusing, because a pound is £, and I've got keyboards at home that have this :)
14:33.41kaiassuming that people call the number sign pound is cultural imperialism ;)
14:33.50paultag+1
14:34.00paultagI always call it hash, unless it's on a phone
14:34.36kaiarguably in the case of citi, it's on a phone
14:35.40VolisI see probably it was just a minor confusion
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14:41.19JordiGHI personally still am baffled how anyone codes Perl with a non-US keyboard layout.
14:44.05waldii'm baffled how everyone codes Perl *hide*
14:44.14paultag== waldi
14:44.29JordiGHWell, any language with nontrivial syntax (anything but lisp).
14:45.00paultagAlso +1
14:45.07JordiGHHow do you comfortably type <>$/?*-=[]@# if you don't have a non-US layout?
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14:45.28paultag(foo->bar baz)  ; is just so hot looking.
14:46.07JordiGHEr, if you have a non-US layout?
14:46.22JordiGHProgramming languages are overwhelmingly in favour of ASCII and that means US keyboard layout.
14:46.25paultag(foo? bar)  ; is also very common.
14:46.37paultagPerhaps, but it's not necessary with most lisps.
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14:59.20edsipergood morning
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15:21.16Achillionaplavin: if you're still wondering about the card limit, I did it last night, so there's no change of policy or anything
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15:22.43AchillionJordiGH: I find UK keyboard much more convenient. # is next to return key and I find the position of "" on shift-2 to be perfect
15:22.56JordiGHAchillion: And where is $
15:22.57JordiGH?
15:22.59AchillionThough I've never written perl
15:23.03Achillionshift-4
15:24.20JordiGHAlright, so it's pretty much all of the same ASCII symbols plus the pound symbol. Are the enter keys typically l-shaped? I like my backslash above the enter key.
15:24.22Achillionhttp://www.goodtyping.com/teclatUKok.png  I also prefer the position of \ between shift and z
15:24.39Achillionheh, looks like I answered your question :)
15:24.59AchillionIt's obviously all a matter of habbit really
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15:25.06JordiGHI wonder about keyboard layouts that don't have all the printable ASCII symbols.
15:25.18JordiGHHabbits for hobbits.
15:25.50Achillionbut I've had both US and UK layout throughout my life and I ended up with a preference towards UK
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17:10.21jjs1Oooooh. Wikipedia has a new WYSIWYG editor! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout?veaction=edit
17:10.48Achillionyeah, it's quite cool
17:12.35schumamlthere have been reports that it is buggy and slow for some users
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17:13.07Achillionit's still in beta
17:13.18gevaertsLuckily we here don't have to care :)
17:13.27schumamlAchillion: if you ask those users, it's not even in alpha yet :)
17:13.38Achillionwell, ok, fair enough :)
17:13.52AchillionI just mean they make sure you know it's not really working yet when you try to use it
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17:14.14jjs1I always thought that writing with markup makes people pay more attention to their work. :-)
17:14.44AchillionLaTeX \o/
17:14.58jjs1+1
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17:18.52summatusmentisjjs1: it's understood, from the research community, that wiki-markup, the associated rules, and the subsequent reverts when you don't follow them drive-away new contributers to wikipedia
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18:01.05jjs1summatusmentis: [Citation needed.] :-)
18:01.43shachafAre there any restrictions on organization administrator eligibility?
18:02.02carolsshachaf: you mean for GSoC potentially next year?
18:03.02carolsshachaf: this is for this year. http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#3._What_is_the_role_of_an_organization
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18:08.49summatusmentisjjs1: http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~halfak/publications/The_Rise_and_Decline/
18:08.54summatusmentisthere's a link from there to the actual paper
18:10.09jjs1summatusmentis: Oh! Very interesting :-)
18:11.47summatusmentisbasically, automated revert tools don't support maintaining new-editors' interest in contribution (and these tools auto-revert things that break mark-up/formatting rules)
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20:52.17carolsserves some more tea and coffee
20:52.49meflinso how long does it take for a wait list submission to show up on the list?
20:53.17carolsmeflin: not long.
20:53.41meflinso like 10 min?
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20:54.37carolssure, did you need me to verify something?
20:54.59meflinyes please may I PM?
20:55.05carolssure
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21:12.44meflincarols: wait list does seem to be broken
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21:17.22carolsmeflin: sure, i can muse manually add the person.
21:18.13meflinjust showed up
21:18.52meflinnot sure if that was you or the submissions I've made in 2 browsers ...
21:19.01meflinsomething could be buged ..
21:19.14meflinor just slow
21:19.41carolsyeah, i don't know
21:19.43carolswhatever :-)
21:20.04meflinwell it worked out so meh :)
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