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14:33.30 | ChadWindnagle | Hey all. Had a quick question about withdrawing a student, is it possible to basically end a project before the final evaluation? |
14:34.00 | ChadWindnagle | The student has fallen off the map on our end so after a few warning emails and attempts to contact them I've decided to fail them |
14:34.58 | paultag | ChadWindnagle: perhaps you want to email carols with a few more details and ask for her input |
14:35.34 | ChadWindnagle | I considered that, figured I'd ask first before putting more on her plate. |
14:35.43 | paultag | Good reactiond :D |
14:35.45 | paultag | Erm, reacton |
14:35.59 | paultag | ChadWindnagle: however, since this is a bit more touchy, she's likely going to have to weigh in anyway |
14:36.06 | paultag | but in general, aye! |
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14:37.31 | ChadWindnagle | I'll send her an email. I tried to give the student a few chances to get in touch with me but he is basically ignoring me at this point |
14:37.56 | ChadWindnagle | It's quite sad since we really wanted this project |
14:40.23 | introom | ChadWindnagle: hmmm, is it convenient to reveal your project :-) ? |
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14:40.47 | ChadWindnagle | The project is Joomla |
14:41.49 | introom | that's too general |
14:42.05 | ChadWindnagle | Sorry, I thought you were asking about the mentoring org |
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14:45.02 | ankitkv | ChadWindnagle: I'm guessing it won't be possible to fail them for mid-term since students have already recieved their stipends, so there's no point in that. the only option that makes sense is fail them when the final evaluations come up |
14:48.00 | kai | ChadWindnagle: hang on |
14:48.12 | kai | ah, didn't miss a lot of backlog |
14:49.18 | kai | ChadWindnagle: So, do I understand this correctly that the student doesn't respond to requests from the mentoring org and you want to fail said student? |
14:49.29 | ChadWindnagle | That's correct |
14:49.58 | kai | Then all you need to do is to select "Failed" on the final evaluation and stop throwing good time after bad |
14:50.26 | kai | the only difference between evaluations is the mentoring time you stop spending |
14:50.49 | ChadWindnagle | Okay. that helps a lot. |
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14:51.23 | kai | I've had to do that before, and I know it's not fun or a decision taken lightly |
14:52.00 | ChadWindnagle | Yeah this is our first failure (my second year as org admin). I'm kinda disappointed |
14:52.03 | kai | but if the student doesn't deliver and doesn't respond, stop spending valuable mentor time |
14:52.23 | ChadWindnagle | He did great right up until after the midterm |
14:53.05 | kai | sometimes there's students who are happy with the mid-term payment |
14:53.18 | ChadWindnagle | yeah I suppose that's true |
14:53.37 | ChadWindnagle | he was very responsive / eager even before the official start of gsoc though. that's why we were thinking this was a good fit |
14:53.48 | kai | for me, the problem always was students getting an internship _and_ gsoc, and at some point failing to keep all the balls in the air |
14:54.07 | kai | ChadWindnagle: you've had no contact whatsoever? |
14:55.39 | ChadWindnagle | The mentor let me know last week he hadn't heard from the student. I emailed immediately and asked what was going on. No response. The student early on had added me on Facebook, so I messaged him there, again no response (but still active on Facebook!). I could even see the little "student has read your message at 11:00pm". So I emailed again friday last week and said if I didn't hear by monday I was going to assume they were giving up |
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14:57.11 | kai | ChadWindnagle: ok, if they're active on facebook otherwise, so we can exclude nasty things like medical emergencies, drop 'em |
15:00.14 | ChadWindnagle | yeah I think he might have gotten an internship or something |
15:01.24 | kai | as I said, that was the only reason I ever had to fail gsoc students |
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18:10.29 | decoder | I need an advice . can anyone help me? |
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18:13.16 | Achillion | decoder: IRC has this peculiarity about it being more polite to directly ask than it is to "ask to ask". So, go ahead I guess :) |
18:15.07 | decoder | @achillion pardon. I want to check this way of conversation.I am looking for a junior job in php , html language. I like blogging, web development. I need a basic job to start contributing |
18:19.48 | brlcad | decoder: there are lots of fantastic junior jobs listed with last years's GCI participants |
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18:20.18 | brlcad | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 |
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18:21.08 | brlcad | for example, http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/google/gci2012/brlcad has about 100 tasks for BRL-CAD that are still available to be worked including a couple web tasks |
18:22.02 | decoder | sir I am college student and I have searched in wikimedia, wordpress etc. but did not found any basic on site. Should I contact them personally and ask? |
18:22.11 | DarthGandalf | decoder: don't pm random people |
18:26.13 | decoder | what you say as the correct way to ask for the list of small jobs? |
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19:48.48 | x86__ | google.ps hacked ? |
19:50.47 | Achillion | Looks like it |
19:53.28 | x86__ | try https://www.google.com... its weird |
19:53.36 | kshitij8_ | wonders how long before the site gets recovered |
19:54.12 | Achillion | x86__: what would be weird is all/multiple mirrors getting hacked :) |
19:54.13 | x86__ | kshitij8_: really... how come google hasn't fixed it yet |
19:54.53 | x86__ | Achillion: you opened the link ? |
19:54.56 | Achillion | I did |
19:55.01 | Achillion | .com is fine |
19:55.17 | Achillion | and I assume all but .ps are fine too ...? |
19:56.21 | x86__ | Achillion: ya |
19:56.29 | Achillion | yeah, so, not *that* weird |
19:56.36 | x86__ | but the strange thing is |
19:56.43 | x86__ | http and https open diff sites |
19:56.51 | x86__ | and the later is absurd |
19:57.12 | Achillion | https gives me a warning that the certificate is invalid/untrusted (https://google.ps), which makes total sense |
19:58.19 | x86__ | Achillion: but you can still open it using firefox |
19:58.36 | Achillion | yes, if I wanted to |
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20:20.54 | dfighter | http://www.zdnet.com/hackers-target-deface-google-palestine-site-7000019859/ |
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20:31.07 | notdan | https://google.ps actually give me no errors |
20:31.30 | notdan | oh fixed already i guess |
20:31.51 | paultag | I'm still hacked |
20:32.12 | paultag | http://google.ps/ now gives me an "Account Has Been Suspended" |
20:32.23 | paultag | and https shows a big bad page because it looks like a MITM |
20:33.30 | utku | paultag: It seems their hosting provider took their account down. |
20:33.36 | utku | is Captain Obvious. |
20:33.40 | paultag | I don't think Google needs a hosting provider |
20:33.50 | paultag | I'm sure that's the TLD's admin |
20:33.56 | paultag | Oh, the hackers |
20:34.00 | paultag | yes, nevermind. You're right. |
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22:37.39 | qgil | Hi, a student mentions that "Google's Open Source office has some funding for Summer of Code students for mentor approved travel" - she is interested in presenting the project in the main conference of her project. |
22:37.53 | qgil | But I haven't heard about this sponsorship budget... |
22:39.28 | gevaerts | qgil: for most of these vague-ish things, the proper procedure is to talk to carols directly |
22:40.03 | qgil | hi gevaerts thanks, I was hoping not to bother her directly :) |
22:42.05 | gevaerts | It can't always be avoided :) |
22:42.15 | olly_ | she's the one who would need to allocate the funds |
22:45.20 | qgil | But is this something documented anywhere? If not, then this is already more than half the answer. |
22:46.14 | qgil | For instance, the process to be sponsored to the Mentors Summit is documented and clear, but to other events... |
22:46.21 | gevaerts | I don't remember seeing anything specific |
22:46.52 | olly_ | qgil: i think there's usually up to US$500 available |
22:47.10 | olly_ | isn't sure this is clearly documented anywhere though |
22:47.24 | olly_ | maybe they can't provide it if everyone asks |
22:48.17 | gevaerts | I wonder if they're not deliberately leaving this undocumented so they're free to decide without having to deal with complaints later |
22:48.23 | gevaerts | "But *they* got it!" |
22:49.36 | qgil | mmmm thanks olly_ gevaerts for the quick replies. All this makes sense. FOSS Outreach Program for Women has a reference to $500 , and most of their practices mirror GSoC. |
22:49.55 | qgil | BUT it is clear that I just read this on IRC, not from the original source. |
22:49.56 | qgil | :) |
22:50.05 | gevaerts | Yes, rather :) |
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23:38.10 | pnorman | wishes he could go to his project's main conference |
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