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14:33.30ChadWindnagleHey all. Had a quick question about withdrawing a student, is it possible to basically end a project before the final evaluation?
14:34.00ChadWindnagleThe student has fallen off the map on our end so after a few warning emails and attempts to contact them I've decided to fail them
14:34.58paultagChadWindnagle: perhaps you want to email carols with a few more details and ask for her input
14:35.34ChadWindnagleI considered that, figured I'd ask first before putting more on her plate.
14:35.43paultagGood reactiond :D
14:35.45paultagErm, reacton
14:35.59paultagChadWindnagle: however, since this is a bit more touchy, she's likely going to have to weigh in anyway
14:36.06paultagbut in general, aye!
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14:37.31ChadWindnagleI'll send her an email. I tried to give the student a few chances to get in touch with me but he is basically ignoring me at this point
14:37.56ChadWindnagleIt's quite sad since we really wanted this project
14:40.23introomChadWindnagle: hmmm, is it convenient to reveal your project :-) ?
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14:40.47ChadWindnagleThe project is Joomla
14:41.49introomthat's too general
14:42.05ChadWindnagleSorry, I thought you were asking about the mentoring org
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14:45.02ankitkvChadWindnagle: I'm guessing it won't be possible to fail them for mid-term since students have already recieved their stipends, so there's no point in that. the only option that makes sense is fail them when the final evaluations come up
14:48.00kaiChadWindnagle: hang on
14:48.12kaiah, didn't miss a lot of backlog
14:49.18kaiChadWindnagle: So, do I understand this correctly that the student doesn't respond to requests from the mentoring org and you want to fail said student?
14:49.29ChadWindnagleThat's correct
14:49.58kaiThen all you need to do is to select "Failed" on the final evaluation and stop throwing good time after bad
14:50.26kaithe only difference between evaluations is the mentoring time you stop spending
14:50.49ChadWindnagleOkay. that helps a lot.
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14:51.23kaiI've had to do that before, and I know it's not fun or a decision taken lightly
14:52.00ChadWindnagleYeah this is our first failure (my second year as org admin). I'm kinda disappointed
14:52.03kaibut if the student doesn't deliver and doesn't respond, stop spending valuable mentor time
14:52.23ChadWindnagleHe did great right up until after the midterm
14:53.05kaisometimes there's students who are happy with the mid-term payment
14:53.18ChadWindnagleyeah I suppose that's true
14:53.37ChadWindnaglehe was very responsive / eager even before the official start of gsoc though. that's why we were thinking this was a good fit
14:53.48kaifor me, the problem always was students getting an internship _and_ gsoc, and at some point failing to keep all the balls in the air
14:54.07kaiChadWindnagle: you've had no contact whatsoever?
14:55.39ChadWindnagleThe mentor let me know last week he hadn't heard from the student. I emailed immediately and asked what was going on. No response. The student early on had added me on Facebook, so I messaged him there, again no response (but still active on Facebook!). I could even see the little "student has read your message at 11:00pm". So I emailed again friday last week and said if I didn't hear by monday I was going to assume they were giving up
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14:57.11kaiChadWindnagle: ok, if they're active on facebook otherwise, so we can exclude nasty things like medical emergencies, drop 'em
15:00.14ChadWindnagleyeah I think he might have gotten an internship or something
15:01.24kaias I said, that was the only reason I ever had to fail gsoc students
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18:10.29decoderI need an advice . can anyone help me?
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18:13.16Achilliondecoder: IRC has this peculiarity about it being more polite to directly ask than it is to "ask to ask".  So, go ahead I guess :)
18:15.07decoder@achillion pardon. I want to check this way of conversation.I am looking for a junior job in php , html language. I like blogging, web development. I need a basic job to start contributing
18:19.48brlcaddecoder: there are lots of fantastic junior jobs listed with last years's GCI participants
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18:20.18brlcadhttp://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012
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18:21.08brlcadfor example, http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/google/gci2012/brlcad has about 100 tasks for BRL-CAD that are still available to be worked including a couple web tasks
18:22.02decodersir I am college student and I have searched in wikimedia, wordpress etc. but did not found any basic on site. Should I contact them personally and ask?
18:22.11DarthGandalfdecoder: don't pm random people
18:26.13decoderwhat you say as the correct way to ask for the list of small jobs?
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19:48.48x86__google.ps hacked ?
19:50.47AchillionLooks like it
19:53.28x86__try https://www.google.com... its weird
19:53.36kshitij8_wonders how long before the site gets recovered
19:54.12Achillionx86__: what would be weird is all/multiple mirrors getting hacked :)
19:54.13x86__kshitij8_: really... how come google hasn't fixed it yet
19:54.53x86__Achillion: you opened the link ?
19:54.56AchillionI did
19:55.01Achillion.com is fine
19:55.17Achillionand I assume all but .ps are fine too ...?
19:56.21x86__Achillion: ya
19:56.29Achillionyeah, so, not *that* weird
19:56.36x86__but the strange thing is
19:56.43x86__http and https open diff sites
19:56.51x86__and the later is absurd
19:57.12Achillionhttps gives me a warning that the certificate is invalid/untrusted (https://google.ps), which makes total sense
19:58.19x86__Achillion: but you can still open it using firefox
19:58.36Achillionyes, if I wanted to
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20:20.54dfighterhttp://www.zdnet.com/hackers-target-deface-google-palestine-site-7000019859/
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20:31.07notdanhttps://google.ps actually give me no errors
20:31.30notdanoh fixed already i guess
20:31.51paultagI'm still hacked
20:32.12paultaghttp://google.ps/ now gives me an "Account Has Been Suspended"
20:32.23paultagand https shows a big bad page because it looks like a MITM
20:33.30utkupaultag: It seems their hosting provider took their account down.
20:33.36utkuis Captain Obvious.
20:33.40paultagI don't think Google needs a hosting provider
20:33.50paultagI'm sure that's the TLD's admin
20:33.56paultagOh, the hackers
20:34.00paultagyes, nevermind. You're right.
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22:37.39qgilHi, a student mentions that "Google's Open Source office has some funding for Summer of Code students for mentor approved travel" - she is interested in presenting the project in the main conference of her project.
22:37.53qgilBut I haven't heard about this sponsorship budget...
22:39.28gevaertsqgil: for most of these vague-ish things, the proper procedure is to talk to carols directly
22:40.03qgilhi gevaerts thanks, I was hoping not to bother her directly  :)
22:42.05gevaertsIt can't always be avoided :)
22:42.15olly_she's the one who would need to allocate the funds
22:45.20qgilBut is this something documented anywhere? If not, then this is already more than half the answer.
22:46.14qgilFor instance, the process to be sponsored to the Mentors Summit is documented and clear, but to other events...
22:46.21gevaertsI don't remember seeing anything specific
22:46.52olly_qgil: i think there's usually up to US$500 available
22:47.10olly_isn't sure this is clearly documented anywhere though
22:47.24olly_maybe they can't provide it if everyone asks
22:48.17gevaertsI wonder if they're not deliberately leaving this undocumented so they're free to decide without having to deal with complaints later
22:48.23gevaerts"But *they* got it!"
22:49.36qgilmmmm thanks olly_ gevaerts for the quick replies. All this makes sense. FOSS Outreach Program for Women has a reference to $500 , and most of their practices mirror GSoC.
22:49.55qgilBUT it is clear that I just read this on IRC, not from the original source.
22:49.56qgil:)
22:50.05gevaertsYes, rather :)
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23:38.10pnormanwishes he could go to his project's main conference
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