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| 02:59.52 | introom | hi, carol sent an email with some questions in it. Should I fill the survey questions and reply to carol, or the survey will show up in gsoc site and I shall fill it up on that website? |
| 03:07.50 | olly | introom: fill it in on the website |
| 03:08.13 | introom | olly: seems like there's no form currently on the website |
| 03:08.25 | olly | indeed, it's not yet time |
| 03:08.28 | olly | !timeline | introom |
| 03:08.28 | gsocbot | introom: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
| 03:09.48 | introom | olly: yeah, thank you. |
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| 13:30.39 | jjs1 | Does anyone want to exchange a proof-reading of README files? :-) |
| 13:32.34 | giuscri | jjs1: That means you need someone who read and correct some README files? If so, about which project? |
| 13:33.45 | JordiGH | jjs1: Sure. |
| 13:33.53 | JordiGH | jjs1: Pastebin it or something. |
| 13:34.04 | JordiGH | (sorry, don't feel like cloning your repo just to read a README) |
| 13:34.14 | jjs1 | giuscri: Yep, I meant that I would read and correct somebody's README file in exchange for having them read and correct mine. |
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| 13:34.31 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Thanks, and there's no need. :-) https://github.com/w3c/i18n-checker |
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| 13:34.43 | JordiGH | was hoping for a direct link. |
| 13:34.53 | jjs1 | It is :-) |
| 13:35.02 | JordiGH | No, this was the link I was hoping for: https://raw.github.com/w3c/i18n-checker/master/README.md |
| 13:35.04 | kshitij8_ | Hey, I'm thinking of doing a session/talk in my college about FOSS and GSoC. Would anyone here be interested in doing a small talk about GSoC and opensource projects? |
| 13:35.05 | giuscri | jjs1: if a have no README files?... Can I try as well? |
| 13:35.48 | jjs1 | giuscri: Err, sure! |
| 13:36.16 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Sorry, on my machine they both display the document. |
| 13:36.26 | JordiGH | jjs1: The second one is the actual one, the first one has all of the github crap around it. |
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| 13:38.30 | giuscri | jjs1: Ok. I'm having a look now. Since I'm a *true* noob --though I'm willing to learn a lot-- if I find something interesting to tell you there's someway to contact you? |
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| 13:40.16 | jjs1 | giuscri: If you spot a mistake I'd be grateful if you could point it out right here. Or you can PM me if it would take to long to describe in the channel. There's no obligation, I'm a "*true* noob" too. :-) |
| 13:40.57 | giuscri | jjs1: what if you're not joined in the channel? |
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| 13:41.25 | JordiGH | jjs1: I prefer "..." to "…" do you care either way? I just find the latter more difficult to read in fixed-width. |
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| 13:42.27 | JordiGH | jjs1: You seem to hesitate between internationaliZation and analySe. I would pick either z or s for both, but not switch back and forth. |
| 13:42.48 | jjs1 | JordiGH, vis. "...": I'm afraid I'm just being sycophantic and following some published W3C advice: http://www.w3.org/2009/cheatsheet/#typo |
| 13:43.19 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Cheers, I'll have a scan through and correct instances of that. I have a feeling it's because I've used two different spell-checkers. |
| 13:43.36 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Would you like me to return the favour? :-) |
| 13:43.58 | JordiGH | jjs1: I don't have good enough docs to check, and we already have this one dude who regulary goes through all of our docs and checks for spelling and grammar. |
| 13:44.09 | kai | JordiGH: I just use … for twitter, where this saves two characters ;) |
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| 13:45.33 | JordiGH | Bastard keeps changing my "colour" spelling to the abominable "color". :-) |
| 13:45.37 | banas | Hi everyone, </ad-alert> I just thought I'll share the contribution page for my gsoc project, just in case someone in this list might be interested to contribute https://github.com/sarupbanskota/GlitterGallery/wiki/Contributing |
| 13:45.38 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Hehe. That sounds useful. :-) |
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| 13:46.38 | t4nk904 | jjs1: I wouldn't end lines starting with "*" with an "or" or an "and" that continues on a line starting too with "*" |
| 13:47.11 | t4nk904 | just a matter of taste |
| 13:48.10 | jjs1 | t4nk904: You mean where list items are separated by semicolons? |
| 13:49.13 | JordiGH | jjs1: http://agora.octave.org/snippet/AJZR/ |
| 13:49.52 | t4nk904 | jjs1: For example this one: "* `static List<Assertion> check(URL url)`, for online checks; or" |
| 13:50.02 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Oh wow! Thanks! |
| 13:50.31 | jjs1 | t4nk904: Ah, yep that is a matter of taste. :-) |
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| 13:51.57 | jjs1 | Alright, thanks for the extra pairs of eyes. |
| 13:52.11 | jjs1 | goes off to fix things |
| 13:53.07 | JordiGH | I didn't really find anything that really needed to be fixed. |
| 13:53.25 | JordiGH | I just offloaded my neuroses into a diff, but really, the original is pretty much ok. |
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| 13:54.50 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Woo! Adequacy! :-D |
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| 13:57.32 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Heh. "architecture pattern" was originally "architectural pattern" but I changed it because of en.wikipedia :-) |
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| 13:58.39 | JordiGH | Wikipedia and I have our differences. |
| 13:58.42 | jjs1 | The "architectural" probably reads better. |
| 13:58.46 | JordiGH | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_pattern |
| 13:59.39 | jjs1 | I think the body of that article actually has "architecture pattern" more often. |
| 13:59.40 | gevaerts | "architecture pattern" is *wrong*! |
| 13:59.45 | gevaerts | has opninions too :) |
| 14:00.11 | jjs1 | I could hop over to ##English. |
| 14:00.16 | JordiGH | I'll go edit Wikipedia, gevaerts will back me up. |
| 14:00.34 | jjs1 | There are LOADS of people with opinions in there. :-) |
| 14:00.52 | JordiGH | Is there a talk page? Those are always worth a good laugh. |
| 14:01.49 | JordiGH | I'm still mounting watch over this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Divergence_of_the_sum_of_the_reciprocals_of_the_primes#ln_vs_log |
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| 14:02.42 | jjs1 | JordiGH: I see XKCD is involved. :-) |
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| 14:02.51 | JordiGH | Where? |
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| 14:03.48 | jjs1 | JordiGH: With the talk page you linked. |
| 14:04.22 | jjs1 | JordiGH: Reminds me of http://xkcd.com/1167/ |
| 14:04.31 | JordiGH | Oh, he's proving that the sum of primes diverges. |
| 14:04.33 | gevaerts | JordiGH: if you can think of a counter-argument, you could get someone to post it there to start the discussion properly :) |
| 14:04.33 | JordiGH | I forgot this comic. |
| 14:06.08 | jjs1 | http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=%22architectural+pattern%22 gives "about 12,400 results" and http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=%22architecture+pattern%22 gives "about 3160". |
| 14:07.04 | jjs1 | So, if that statistic has a bearing on usage of Standard English, then ... woop de doo |
| 14:07.38 | gevaerts | "Standard English"? What's that? :) |
| 14:08.50 | jjs1 | gevaerts: en.wikipedia puts it nicely: "Standard English (often shortened to S.E. within linguistic circles) refers to whatever form of the English language is accepted as a national norm in an Anglophone country." |
| 14:09.21 | jjs1 | wonders if he should put all this in a footnote in his README.md |
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| 14:13.20 | gevaerts | jjs1: so *a* standard form of English? :) |
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| 14:14.32 | gevaerts | Well, as far as any Anglophone country *has* a national norm. English linguistics tends to be descriptive, not prescriptive like i.e. French |
| 14:14.37 | jjs1 | gevaerts: I think it's more like *the* standard form. :-) |
| 14:15.14 | gevaerts | jjs1: "a national norm in an Anglophone country" implies there can be hundreds of those |
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| 14:16.34 | jjs1 | gevaerts: "*the* standard form for a Anglophone country" then. Though I think the original puts it well enough. |
| 14:17.25 | gevaerts | looks |
| 14:17.53 | gevaerts | Right. It clearly says there's no such thing as *the* Standard English :) |
| 14:18.07 | jjs1 | Anyway, I made a few changes to the README. Thanks JordiGH :-) |
| 14:19.04 | JordiGH | I personally like the Black English standard. |
| 14:19.25 | jjs1 | gevaerts: To me "*a* standard" sounds like a group of people got together and made a standard, whereas "*the* standard" sounds like something that just happens. |
| 14:19.32 | JordiGH | I wish I could speak it... It has many interesting linguistic features, like a much richer tense system. |
| 14:19.37 | jjs1 | s/happens/happened/ |
| 14:19.58 | gevaerts | tells infobot to go away *now* |
| 14:20.17 | gevaerts | We really don't need that sort of nonsense... |
| 14:20.19 | JordiGH | Huh, bots? |
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| 14:20.27 | JordiGH | s/bots/pests/ |
| 14:20.49 | jjs1 | infobot: What is your purpose? |
| 14:20.51 | infobot | jjs1: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 14:21.15 | gevaerts | kai: awake? |
| 14:21.54 | jjs1 | I should get back to work. Nice talking :-) |
| 14:22.03 | gevaerts | Logging is fine (which is what I believe infobot is here for), but that sort of stuff doesn't really help anyone I think |
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| 14:23.00 | gevaerts | Hmmm |
| 14:23.10 | gevaerts | s/Hmmm/\n\/leave/ |
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| 14:24.21 | gevaerts | :( |
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| 14:39.08 | kai | gevaerts: yeah |
| 14:39.37 | gevaerts | kai: is that infobot feature new? |
| 14:39.54 | gevaerts | I first saw it, got annoyed, and then realised who infobot was :) |
| 14:39.57 | kai | hmm |
| 14:40.34 | gevaerts | New bots are easier to deal with |
| 14:40.44 | kai | !logs |
| 14:40.44 | kai | pokes gsocbot |
| 14:40.44 | kai | !cookie |
| 14:40.44 | gsocbot | kai: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 14:40.45 | gsocbot | kai: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 14:41.18 | kai | ok, so it's the logging bot, but why it seems to want to handle regexes is a mystery to me |
| 14:41.41 | kai | but, I've got a fix for that |
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| 14:41.50 | gevaerts | :) |
| 14:41.54 | kai | s/fix/fox/ |
| 14:41.56 | kai | there |
| 14:42.13 | kai | no need to talk if all it should do is log |
| 14:42.30 | gevaerts | Wonderful! we can now have as many creative typos as we like again! |
| 14:43.06 | kai | a lot of bots seem to have that feature. I never got why you'd want that |
| 14:45.14 | jjs1 | s/infobot/dummy/gi |
| 14:45.18 | jjs1 | heh heh heh |
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| 14:47.55 | kai | gevaerts: tbh I almost kicked the bot for being in violation of our bot policy :) |
| 14:48.10 | gevaerts | I wouldn't have blamed you :) |
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| 14:49.27 | kai | but I have to admit that I don't know if anybody besides myself knows our bot policy |
| 14:50.17 | gevaerts | "No bots without description and contact information, and tell kai about it" |
| 14:50.26 | gevaerts | Is there more than that? |
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| 14:52.25 | kai | no, I think that's pretty much it |
| 14:53.17 | gevaerts | Of course I'm not working on a bot, so me knowing it is slightly useless |
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| 14:55.57 | jjs1 | wonders if gevaerts is secretly a bot. |
| 14:56.48 | gevaerts | jjs1: run /whois gevaerts, see if you can find contact information, and if not, if you strongly believe that I am a bot, complain to kai |
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| 14:56.51 | gevaerts | Easy :) |
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| 14:58.50 | jjs1 | But ... |
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| 14:59.00 | jjs1 | !kai | gevaerts |
| 14:59.00 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "kai" is scary |
| 14:59.11 | kai | haha |
| 14:59.21 | kai | I didn't know that one |
| 14:59.21 | jjs1 | OK, now I need to stop slacking :-) |
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| 15:29.17 | Achillion | I'm going through that documentation phase now ... |
| 15:29.50 | Achillion | The one where I realise it might have been better to start earlier, because I'm realising a bunch of things that could use a bit more attention. |
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| 15:49.28 | jjs1 | Achillion: Shout if you need anything proof-reading. I owe the group one now :-) |
| 15:50.18 | Achillion | Heh, sure |
| 15:51.14 | gevaerts | jjs1: I wrote this epic novel... |
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