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11:44.46 | yimyom | Hi gsoc mentors |
11:45.03 | yimyom | I have a question for my student and I realized I have no answer !!!!! Despite searching the FAQ |
11:45.11 | Achillion | is not a mentor so will not say hi back. |
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11:45.31 | yimyom | my student wants to submit his final code today but we don't know where it has to be done ? |
11:46.01 | yimyom | any clue ? |
11:47.22 | gevaerts | yimyom: I'm assuming that an upload form or instructions will appear on the site as soon as the official code submission period starts |
11:48.25 | yimyom | the official period starts today. That's why I'm surprised I saw nothing ! |
11:48.34 | Achillion | Friday |
11:48.38 | Achillion | Is when code submission starts |
11:48.57 | gevaerts | The *evaluation* period starts today, but even that is not open *now* |
11:49.09 | gevaerts | recommends looking at the timeline |
11:50.00 | yimyom | makes sense indeed. |
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11:51.25 | Achillion | It's ok, I thought I read every FAQ twice and the other day I was asking about stuff on the FAQ too :) |
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12:07.24 | gsocbot | kai: "next" is September 23, 19:00 UTC: Firm 'pencils down' date. Mentors, students and org admins can begin submitting final evaluations. |
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13:27.40 | revane | How does one recover their password for gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org? |
13:28.06 | revane | It's not accepting what I think my password should be... |
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13:35.32 | JordiGH | revane: Ask in the mentors' list? |
13:35.43 | revane | Oh, I thought that's what this was:P |
13:35.50 | JordiGH | No, this is public. |
13:35.56 | JordiGH | The mentors' list is private. |
13:36.03 | revane | Ha. More passwords:P |
13:36.04 | gevaerts | This isn't a mailing list for starters :) |
13:36.30 | JordiGH | The very existence of gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org is supposed to be s00p3r s3kr1t! |
13:36.38 | JordiGH | ... I think, anyways. |
13:36.50 | gevaerts | Keeping a secret in gsoc is *easy* |
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13:37.02 | gevaerts | Just mention it in the timeline or the faq :) |
13:37.12 | JordiGH | Hehe... |
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13:52.05 | Achillion | now knows the secret |
13:52.38 | Achillion | attempts to type in random passwords on the wiki - fails - gets banned - fails GSoC - cries. |
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15:09.20 | notdan | gevaerts: touche |
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15:38.04 | carols | serves some finals tea and coffee |
15:38.34 | aghisla | serves final cake |
15:38.50 | carols | thanks aghisla |
15:39.04 | paultag | noms |
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15:39.13 | aghisla | thanks for drinks :) I'll take tea |
15:39.13 | gevaerts | chomps |
15:39.21 | meflin | mm tea |
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15:40.21 | Achillion | Everything's so ... final |
15:45.13 | jjs1 | 'final cake' sounds dangerous :-) |
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16:06.55 | dberkholz | morning folks |
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16:08.57 | carols | hey dberkholz |
16:09.06 | dberkholz | hiya |
16:09.11 | jjs1 | wonders if carols is busy writing an email to send on the hour. |
16:09.29 | carols | jjs1: you seem to think carol waits until the last minute for anything. she wrote that email 3 weeks ago :-) |
16:09.44 | dberkholz | just forward the one from last year |
16:09.56 | jjs1 | carols: Oh! hehe |
16:10.32 | meflin | waiting until the last minute is not how you heard cats ;) |
16:11.02 | jjs1 | meflin: Or not how you get ahead as a cat-herder :) |
16:11.09 | aghisla | heards a distant meow |
16:11.35 | gevaerts | carols: jjs1 is a student, so assuming you do things at the last minute is just natural :) |
16:11.47 | jjs1 | That's right. :-) |
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16:12.05 | carols | gevaerts: yes, most people wait until the last minute if the evaluation and application submissions for gsoc are any indication :-) |
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16:12.59 | carols | my drafts email folder is full of all sorts of emails for the whole year :_0 |
16:13.00 | carols | :-) |
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16:13.33 | jjs1 | Oh wow. I don't think I'll ever be able prepare like that ^^ |
16:13.54 | Achillion | is finishing up some documentation. |
16:14.10 | jjs1 | And so perhaps I'll never run a programme like this :) |
16:14.17 | Achillion | I'm sorry, what are we talking about? :) |
16:14.31 | jjs1 | Me too Achillion :) |
16:14.32 | carols | Achillion: the fact that i plan ahead. |
16:14.55 | meflin | people who can run programs like this do not just fall out of tree's :D |
16:14.55 | Achillion | Yes, I can imagine that kind of planning is a requirement when running a program like this. |
16:15.07 | gevaerts | Achillion: to be fair, it's not the last minute yet. You have more than two and a half *hours* left! :) |
16:15.33 | jjs1 | gevaerts: 45 minutes by my watch. :-S |
16:16.18 | jjs1 | Oh, I'm wrong. |
16:16.18 | gevaerts | jjs1: in that case, welcome to Timezones 101 :) |
16:16.19 | Achillion | gevaerts: Heh. Great. Just what I need. Now I feel like I have all the time in the world and might take a break :D |
16:16.20 | carols | jjs1: your watch is wrong. |
16:16.40 | jjs1 | I got the fields wrong in the time zone converter :) |
16:17.24 | Achillion | I'll probably to it tomorrow morning though (the eval) |
16:17.40 | jjs1 | wonders what he can achieve in 2 and a half hours |
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16:18.09 | Achillion | Cause 22:00 just doesn't feel like form-filling time |
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16:19.20 | carols | i'll talk that as a compliment, meflin |
16:19.21 | carols | :-) |
16:19.29 | carols | that i didn't fall from a tree. |
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16:19.48 | meflin | heh :D |
16:21.15 | meflin | that reminds I need to get my tea organized |
16:21.34 | jjs1 | I'll miss this channel. I'll have to make my own internet-tea and internet-coffee after this week. :-( |
16:22.04 | meflin | why you dont like us enough to make for us during the off season? |
16:22.28 | Achillion | I don't think the channel gets locked after we're done. |
16:22.47 | Achillion | Or does everyone just leave? |
16:22.55 | paultag | it gets quiet |
16:23.08 | paultag | but it's still here. Used for code-in, too, I think |
16:23.23 | meflin | mentors and admin's hibernate so they can be more cranky at the start of the season |
16:23.26 | paultag | nom |
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16:28.17 | ManojKumar | Hi, I worked on my GSoC a bit before the official coding period. |
16:28.26 | ManojKumar | Is it okay if I submit that too? |
16:29.54 | MatthewWilkes | ManojKumar: Yes |
16:30.53 | jjs1 | Do GSoC students often become GSoC mentors? |
16:30.57 | somaen | ManojKumar: Likely the end results is a superset of that earlier work, and thus hard to split |
16:31.51 | aghisla | jjs1: sometimes even admins! |
16:32.22 | ManojKumar | great, thanks :) |
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16:32.35 | ManojKumar | jjsl: My org admin is a previuos GSoC student :) |
16:32.40 | ManojKumar | jjs1* |
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16:44.13 | Achillion | Welp. Gotta run. Have fun with your evaluations. |
16:47.23 | chro | today we just have to answer the questionnaire ? |
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16:49.01 | carols | chro: yes |
16:49.27 | chro | thank you |
16:49.32 | chro | :) |
16:49.45 | carols | yw |
16:50.08 | chro | I enjoyed so much this program :) I'm very happy |
16:50.41 | nikhatzi | does anyone feels that (s)he would like to keep coding on the project after gsoc is over? |
16:51.09 | dfighter | you don't? |
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16:51.16 | scorche|sh | it is our hope that many students feel that way and continue to contribute ;) |
16:51.19 | nikhatzi | i do, that's why i ask if others feel the same |
16:51.42 | dfighter | I sure do |
16:51.44 | chro | I feel the same :) |
16:51.52 | dfighter | but then I'm a long time open source contributor |
16:51.54 | dfighter | so it's nothing new |
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16:52.16 | chro | however I've been spending more time on my project than on my work, and I have to be careful |
16:52.38 | nikhatzi | but... for me, gsoc is my work for the summer |
16:52.44 | nikhatzi | you get paid after all |
16:52.50 | dfighter | that's how it's supposed to be... |
16:52.58 | dfighter | since it's considered a full time job |
16:54.02 | chro | yes, and it was, I'm just talking in the beginning of September, when I started to work again |
16:54.10 | dfighter | ah |
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16:54.35 | dfighter | well when you work on an open source project it's easy to forget about other stuff |
16:54.44 | nikhatzi | +1 |
16:54.53 | dfighter | I myself sacrificed lots of school time on one of the projects I used to work a lot on |
16:55.04 | nikhatzi | +1000000 :P |
16:55.14 | dfighter | which means years of my life |
16:55.20 | dfighter | but then I didn't regret it |
16:55.24 | dfighter | learned a lot |
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16:56.04 | dfighter | but then now it's coming back to haunt me, as I am running out of sponsored school time :P |
16:56.04 | nikhatzi | at least my gf has a lot of understanding, and didn't freak out with me working all summer in front of my computer :P |
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16:56.50 | dfighter | oh my "girlfriend" ( more of a mistress, since it's based on sex ) was QQing a lot |
16:56.56 | dfighter | that I don't spend enough time with her |
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16:57.03 | nikhatzi | oO |
16:57.33 | dfighter | she even dumped me twice, then asked herself back :D |
16:57.59 | dfighter | once in march and once ~3 weeks ago |
16:58.37 | chro | lol |
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17:00.51 | aghisla | Are you sure these details are on topic here? Remember also that there are ~300 people, the channel is logged, and internet never forgets... choose wisely what to write. |
17:01.50 | nikhatzi | +1 |
17:01.53 | nikhatzi | :P |
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17:02.14 | dfighter | aghisla, these are just some small details, I don't see how these could hurt me tbh |
17:02.25 | dfighter | it's just some smalltalk... |
17:02.28 | aghisla | well, what about the topic of the channel then? |
17:02.31 | scorche|sh | either way, your "mistress" info doesnt need to be in here |
17:02.40 | nikhatzi | smalltalk? where did you remember this... :P |
17:03.40 | dfighter | aghisla, that's a fair point, however if we were to strictly just talk about GSOC we'd really never talk |
17:03.48 | dfighter | other than to shoo people off who can't read the FAQ |
17:04.02 | dfighter | I just shared some GSOC related experience... |
17:05.26 | aghisla | I still think that the details are not on topic. |
17:05.53 | nikhatzi | dfighter, tbh that was an awkward moment :P |
17:06.02 | dfighter | aghisla, please make a list of allowed details then |
17:06.03 | dfighter | thanks |
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17:07.04 | carols | dfighter: i will kick you if necessary. that was completely inappropriate. |
17:07.16 | aghisla | it will be unuseful, I think that is something heuristic. think that you have a microphone and 300 people in an auditorium, and a camera that records everything. And it is not a show. |
17:07.33 | carols | dfighter: aghisla doesn't need to provide you anything. |
17:07.44 | carols | all we need to do is say it's not on topic, and that's when you drop it. |
17:07.54 | carols | if you don't like that, you're not required to be in here. |
17:08.07 | dfighter | carols, I don't see aghisla opped tho |
17:08.13 | carols | dfighter: doesn't matter. |
17:08.20 | carols | anything that makes anyone uncomfortable is off limits |
17:08.25 | carols | this is a community |
17:08.28 | carols | not a hierarchy |
17:08.29 | dfighter | I understand that |
17:08.33 | carols | dfighter: great. |
17:08.41 | carols | let's move on and hope it never happens again |
17:09.02 | dfighter | however I didn't see aghisla state that what I said made s/he uncomfortable |
17:09.14 | carols | dfighter: doesn't matter. |
17:09.14 | dfighter | had s/he said that, I'd have even apologized |
17:09.25 | carols | ok, one more response and i'm kicking you. |
17:09.26 | dfighter | carols, I'm sorry but it matters to me |
17:09.30 | carols | it matters to me too. |
17:09.37 | carols | either drop it or risk being banned. |
17:09.39 | carols | what do you prefer? |
17:09.56 | dfighter | well you are right, I'm not required to be here then |
17:10.00 | carols | great. |
17:10.02 | dfighter | bye |
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17:10.16 | carols | serves some tea |
17:10.26 | aghisla | thanks carols. |
17:10.31 | carols | yw aghisla |
17:10.33 | nikhatzi | would love some tea |
17:10.36 | gevaerts | Oh, tea! |
17:10.38 | gevaerts | drinks |
17:10.39 | carols | i step away from the computer for one moment.... |
17:10.40 | gevaerts | Thanks |
17:10.43 | nikhatzi | after 8 too! |
17:10.54 | aghisla | like the teacher and a classroom :) |
17:11.01 | carols | aghisla: seriously |
17:11.03 | downey | mm, tea |
17:11.28 | jjs1 | I hope I'm not treading on toes: This is a good read for people who need a better understanding of IRC communities: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml |
17:11.30 | scorche|sh | its ok - there are more than one "teachers" in here ;) |
17:11.39 | scorche|sh | it doesnt help when i have to go off and explain something to someone els ehtough =/ |
17:11.54 | chro | it's already 7PM UTC and I don't see the evaluation in my dashboard |
17:11.59 | gevaerts | chro: it's not |
17:12.06 | chro | oh sorry |
17:12.08 | chro | my mistake |
17:12.09 | carols | chro: no, it's not. |
17:12.17 | gevaerts | enrolls another student to Timezones 101 :) |
17:12.30 | carols | gevaerts: there's been a lot of new students recently :-) |
17:12.45 | jjs1 | welcome to the club chro :-) |
17:12.50 | gevaerts | carols: it's because of all those teachers in this classroom :) |
17:13.01 | carols | gevaerts: probably so :-) |
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17:16.32 | srinup | carols: I updated my shipping address, is it okay or the address labels already printed out? |
17:16.45 | carols | srinup: no, address labels haven't been printed. |
17:16.51 | srinup | Thanks! |
17:16.59 | carols | we don't know who's passed their finals yet, so we don't know who's going to get a final package. |
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17:17.49 | srinup | okay |
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17:41.14 | kblin | evening folks |
17:42.12 | notdan | hi |
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17:48.34 | jjs1 | MatthewWilkes: hi! May I PM you RE a previous PM? |
17:49.08 | MatthewWilkes | jjs1: Sure |
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17:50.23 | kblin | evening carols |
17:50.35 | carols | hey kblin, how's it going? |
17:51.19 | kblin | having fun cutting a video of a theatre performance, so great :) |
17:51.37 | kblin | also smartly avoiding having to work on my dissertation |
17:51.49 | carols | very nice :-) |
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17:56.16 | carols | sigh |
17:56.21 | carols | kicks openvpn |
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17:56.48 | kblin | we could ban it if it's giving you trouble... |
17:56.53 | carols | thanks kblin |
17:56.58 | carols | that won't be necessary... |
17:57.01 | carols | …yet. |
17:57.08 | kblin | :) |
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18:08.20 | span | What should the code samples that students submit to Google contain? Patches? Just any sample? Full code base? |
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18:09.42 | kblin | span: I'd send the patches |
18:10.39 | span | kblin: yeah, that seems best |
18:10.45 | span | kblin: thanks :) |
18:11.07 | kblin | my pleasure |
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18:17.35 | hello_world | are we gonna do countdown ? |
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18:17.55 | hello_world | !timeline |
18:17.55 | gsocbot | hello_world: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
18:18.04 | hello_world | !next |
18:18.06 | gsocbot | hello_world: "next" is September 23, 19:00 UTC: Firm 'pencils down' date. Mentors, students and org admins can begin submitting final evaluations. |
18:18.15 | carols | hello_world: let's not and say we did. |
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18:18.29 | jjs1 | hello_world: Pencils down in 40 minutes. There, done. :) |
18:19.15 | hello_world | countdown for last 10 seconds ..what a moment it will be. |
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18:36.11 | downey | countdowns-- |
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18:39.23 | hello_world | what if we still code after 19:00 ..? |
18:39.27 | hello_world | any penalty? |
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18:40.05 | carols | hello_world: you mean for your org? or are you trying to finish your project until the very last minute? |
18:40.25 | hello_world | both |
18:40.43 | carols | yes, you can always code for your org. you're supposed to, this is open source. |
18:40.56 | carols | but no, you can't work on your project anymore. you were supposed to have finished that a week ago |
18:41.49 | hello_world | i get that terms and condition of GSoC but there is always scope to improve |
18:42.14 | carols | indeed, and if you want to do that on a volunteer basis for your org outside of GSoC, please talk to them about it. |
18:42.25 | carols | but you are being evaluated on what you created as of last week. |
18:43.21 | hello_world | ok. thanks. I get it. The timeline is for evaluation purposes only . |
18:43.35 | carols | indeed. |
18:43.36 | hello_world | and that depends on mentor and org admin |
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18:44.12 | carols | everything depends on them. |
18:44.27 | carols | i'm just an adminstrator. |
18:44.32 | carols | a bureaucrat, really |
18:45.30 | aghisla | carols: it is awesome how the fractal structure of gsoc enables 1000+ students to work on such a constellation of projects. |
18:45.43 | carols | aghisla: i agree. a really genius idea. |
18:45.58 | carols | too bad it wasn't mine and i can't take credit for it :-) |
18:46.07 | aghisla | i see it for OSGeo, my organisation, and every year it is a range of great contributions across 15+ software codebases |
18:46.09 | aghisla | hehe :) |
18:46.31 | aghisla | you deserve credit for having run these recent editions |
18:46.42 | ankitkv | anyone here any good with xfig? |
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18:55.04 | JordiGH | ankitkv: I used to be. Nowadays I use inkscape. |
18:55.07 | JordiGH | Or Dia. |
18:55.18 | hello_world | let's have countdown |
18:56.00 | jjs1 | hello_world: it's not a good idea to contravene the word of someone with +o |
18:56.02 | jjs1 | :) |
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19:01.21 | mr- | Aww.. somebody forgot about the countdown |
19:04.37 | hello_world | timesup..but i don't use pencil (technical argument) |
19:05.12 | paultag | :| |
19:06.21 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
19:06.32 | carols | good luck to all the gsoc 2013 students on your final evals :-) |
19:06.41 | jjs1 | thanks :) |
19:06.44 | kshitij8_ | ty :) |
19:06.52 | kshitij8_ | takes some tea |
19:07.19 | rku | takes some coffee |
19:07.30 | rku | one should drink at least 2 litres a day |
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19:07.59 | jjs1 | has a half-cup of coffee |
19:09.07 | hello_world | takes some redbull |
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19:10.01 | mhils | hey folks. my melange dashboard is broken (student account) - anyone else experiencing this? |
19:10.05 | hello_world | where are snacks. (i missed them) |
19:12.31 | carols | mhils: i'd recommend you email the melange folks |
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19:19.04 | jbracker | Is the GSoC page broken oder overloaded? Images do not load and some links do not seem to work. |
19:20.06 | notdan | thanks carols |
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19:20.59 | notdan | might as well just submit the evaluations a little bit later |
19:21.07 | chetna | !next |
19:21.08 | gsocbot | chetna: "next" is September 23, 19:00 UTC: Firm 'pencils down' date. Mentors, students and org admins can begin submitting final evaluations. |
19:21.46 | hello_world | server is busy..let it settle down |
19:22.06 | jbracker | ok |
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19:27.09 | Raydiation | does someone else miss the radio buttons in the evaluation sheet? |
19:27.20 | Raydiation | is melange broken atm |
19:27.22 | Framedragger | yeah everyone is attacking the server know i guess, give it some time and do not panick :) |
19:27.41 | Framedragger | *now i guess |
19:27.51 | Raydiation | i see, so they turned it off? |
19:28.11 | Framedragger | dunno. check back later maybe - i'll be doing the same |
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19:39.10 | derdon | hmm hmm, what does it say about the students' relationship status if participating in GSoC was "one of the best things they've ever done"? :P |
19:39.31 | kblin | let's not go there again today |
19:39.39 | carols | what kblin said. |
19:40.02 | meflin | makes more tea |
19:40.34 | derdon | sorry |
19:40.35 | carols | thanks meflin |
19:40.43 | *** topic/#gsoc by kblin -> Google Summer of Code is wrapping up. |
19:41.12 | summatusmentis | congratulations to everyone completing GSoC, by the way |
19:41.29 | nikhatzi | congratulations :D |
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19:41.41 | jjs1 | carols: Would you have the time for a quick PM (not related to final evals or Melange)? I've been advised to contact you |
19:41.47 | carols | jjs1: sure |
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19:42.13 | nikhatzi | it's been a great experience, will be applying next year for sure :D |
19:44.21 | kblin | derdon: professionally, GSoC was one of the best things I've ever done, that's for syre |
19:44.25 | kblin | sure, as well |
19:44.45 | ManojKumar | I feel sad though :( , the time allocated to GSoC would become empty suddenly |
19:45.23 | meflin | just because it is the end of the season is no reason to stop mentoring or coding :) |
19:45.38 | paultag | aye! |
19:45.43 | ManojKumar | meflin: thats true enough :) |
19:45.54 | paultag | I've been doing F/OSS work nearly every day since Freshman year of College |
19:46.01 | paultag | and I've long since graduated |
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20:01.33 | jjs1 | Good luck to the other students :) |
20:02.18 | aried3r | Raydiation: Yeah, same here. Can't finish the final evaluation. |
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20:10.03 | aried3r | The Radiobuttons are there, but opacity is 0. |
20:11.06 | aghisla | idea for next year: evaluations are open progressively for orgs in alphabetical order |
20:11.33 | aried3r | Then again, it shouldn't be hard for them to handle 1000 concurrent users ;) |
20:11.50 | gevaerts | doesn't understand this |
20:12.26 | gevaerts | I mean, the channel is full of students saying they wish gsoc would go on for a bit longer, so where are those people eager to get it all over with coming from? |
20:13.30 | aried3r | It doesn't matter when I evaluate. And it's the firm pencils down date. From now on, everything is voluntarily. |
20:13.50 | aried3r | Or is there something specific you want to mention? |
20:14.26 | gevaerts | Also, why do those who prefer to use soft pencils have to stop a week earlier? |
20:15.12 | aried3r | Have to? |
20:15.42 | aried3r | I don't think they have to. The timeline and Carols mail are very specific as to what "soft" means. |
20:15.44 | derdon | aried3r: no problem with the formular here on firefox23 |
20:16.03 | gevaerts | aried3r: sorry, just bringing out the old jokes a week early :) |
20:16.14 | aried3r | derdon: Thanks, it seems the situation is now normal. Works in Chrome now too. |
20:16.21 | aried3r | gevaerts: heh |
20:16.23 | aried3r | Got me |
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20:17.34 | Enjolras | Hi |
20:18.19 | Enjolras | gsoc ends, and i've not received anything :/ |
20:18.26 | Enjolras | What should I do ? |
20:19.01 | gevaerts | Enjolras: as in you didn't get the welcome package? |
20:19.20 | Enjolras | gevaerts: yes. Nor the paycard information |
20:19.41 | Enjolras | My shipping address is correct, I've just check |
20:19.44 | gevaerts | carols: one for you, I think |
20:20.59 | gevaerts | Enjolras: carols is the person to talk to, either here or by email |
20:21.13 | Enjolras | Ok thanks |
20:21.35 | JordiGH | I seem to have a crazy in my bug tracker, but I can't tell if the person is crazy or just having trouble with English as a second language. |
20:21.38 | JordiGH | wat do |
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20:23.51 | hello_world | Are we having a After Party ? |
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20:24.56 | meflin | I am ... I'm going to celebrate the mentor summit at home by getting sloshed out of respect for fellow admins and mentors |
20:25.12 | meflin | then I'm going to get up early and play vidio games |
20:26.36 | hello_world | video games or pc games or ps3 |
20:26.53 | meflin | linux games |
20:27.20 | gevaerts | Will they be games that were in gsoc? |
20:27.24 | meflin | and only games that could do GSOC :D |
20:27.48 | hello_world | let's play tetris..haha |
20:27.51 | meflin | gevaerts: probably battle for wesnoth ... I haven't done a round of that in a while |
20:28.51 | hello_world | i am gonna play mario if i get a chance on those old big boxes |
20:31.57 | hello_world | !next |
20:31.59 | gsocbot | hello_world: "next" is September 23, 19:00 UTC: Firm 'pencils down' date. Mentors, students and org admins can begin submitting final evaluations. |
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20:40.50 | derdon | is "Bakery mishap?" some joke I don't get? |
20:41.15 | meflin | error no context |
20:42.00 | meflin | in my house those are very real and life threatening things |
20:44.31 | derdon | ok, then it's because of my stupid english skills. I know only these two words separately and it seems they have a totally different meaning when combined.sorry for bothering |
20:44.53 | meflin | well still no context :) |
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20:45.32 | carols | kicks open vpn again |
20:45.33 | meflin | my context is my wife is a baker and when a 2 meter tall rack rolls out of the oven and falls over on your ... its kinda serious ;) |
20:45.35 | derdon | the last question in the formular is: "Anything else you'd like to tell us? Any interesting road blocks that you didn't anticipate? Thunder? Lightning? Tornado? Bakery mishap?" |
20:45.57 | derdon | *form |
20:45.59 | JordiGH | "formular"? Are you German? |
20:46.04 | meflin | ah well more normal people then I dont have bakery mishaps because they do not work in a bakery :) |
20:46.37 | derdon | JordiGH: yes |
20:46.50 | meflin | so its more about the anything interesting or unusual |
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20:47.04 | Enjolras | carols: hi, can I query you ? |
20:47.11 | carols | Enjolras: sure. |
20:47.19 | meflin | I'm probably the only one here who thinks bakery mishap's are normal :D |
20:47.21 | carols | i won't mention the fact that asking to query is a query in and of itself. |
20:47.34 | Enjolras | No it's a hl :] |
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21:12.16 | JordiGH | Why are we getting "GSoC 2014" kids now? |
21:12.24 | JordiGH | Was there some advertising going on? |
21:12.30 | carols | JordiGH: nope. |
21:12.37 | carols | because they show up around the same time every year. |
21:14.09 | meflin | a few pop in here all season |
21:14.22 | meflin | if they want to get to work I'm all for it :D |
21:14.37 | carols | they always give me heartburn too because thinking about gsoc 2014 when the mentor summit is happening is all just too much. |
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21:15.29 | meflin | passes over a nice hot tea |
21:15.40 | meflin | and an antacid |
21:15.41 | carols | thanks meflin |
21:16.17 | gevaerts | Be careful. meflin is just trying to use less tea |
21:16.26 | meflin | that is not true! |
21:16.35 | aghisla | brings a straw |
21:16.36 | gevaerts | The antacid will make it look darker! |
21:16.39 | meflin | I'm trying to use more tea with more people |
21:16.47 | gevaerts | So you need less :) |
21:17.01 | meflin | I'm trying to up my bulk discounts :D |
21:18.12 | gevaerts | knows a scam when he sees one ;) |
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21:32.46 | qgil_ | Hi, are org admins supposed to do a final evaluation of the program as well? |
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22:51.15 | agliodbs | the carping about minutia on the gsoc mentors list continues to astonish me. |
22:51.25 | agliodbs | was I ever that obnoxious? |
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22:53.51 | olly | we probably all were |
22:54.23 | olly | my feeling is it's actually improved since they stopping forcing mentors to subscribe |
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23:01.25 | agliodbs | email sent |
23:03.10 | olly | agliodbs: so do you interpret that as meaning the 16th is actually the cut-off date for code submissions? |
23:03.23 | olly | i'm left somewhat confused |
23:03.35 | agliodbs | olly: not sure, but the answer to that is to ask a question |
23:03.44 | agliodbs | rather than saying "these docs are terrible" |
23:03.55 | olly | yes, I wasn't defending that person at all |
23:04.11 | agliodbs | I happen to know that the 16th is not ahard cutoff from experience |
23:04.13 | olly | just wondering if the confusion was merely with me |
23:04.25 | agliodbs | I agree that the docs don't make tha clear |
23:05.24 | olly | i'm pretty certain the cut-off has been the hard "pencils down" date in the past, but carols' reply seems to say it's the earlier date |
23:05.40 | agliodbs | I mean, bajeezus. It's like google is handing us free money, and people are complaining that the bills are turned the wrong way. |
23:05.59 | agliodbs | olly: well, *work* should stop on the 16th, if possible |
23:06.08 | agliodbs | olly: but sometimes some follow-up stuff is required |
23:06.23 | olly | i've never been terribly sold on the idea that the last week is the time to write the docs and the tests |
23:06.23 | agliodbs | whcih is why the 1-week grace period exists |
23:06.51 | agliodbs | olly: good gravy, no! |
23:06.55 | olly | that merely encourages the students to leave those until the end, rather than doign them as they go |
23:07.01 | agliodbs | heck, on one of our projecs, the docs/tests took longer than the code |
23:10.18 | derdon | olly: I'm one of those who write docs at the end :( |
23:10.43 | derdon | at least I wrote the tests before writing the code |
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