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| 11:50.38 | smartboyhw | When will applications start for Google Code-In 2013? |
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| 11:57.51 | olly | smartboyhw: there's not been an announcement |
| 11:58.24 | olly | if it's going to happen this year, I'd expect they'll announce it once gsoc has ended |
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| 12:17.02 | Achillion | My only regret is that I didn't use my GSoC notebook to keep log of my work. |
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| 12:19.26 | Achillion | The one they gave us in the welcome package |
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| 14:58.19 | edsiper | when the students start submitting the code done in the next days, should be this done exclusively on Google repos ? |
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| 14:58.33 | JordiGH | There are Google repos? |
| 14:59.04 | edsiper | JordiGH, you know what i mean :) code.google.com/... |
| 14:59.21 | JordiGH | No, I didn't. I didn't realise if we had to get push access to some Google repo and put our code there. |
| 14:59.41 | JordiGH | I thought we just uploaded it via Melange. Well, the student did. |
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| 15:00.03 | edsiper | oh |
| 15:00.08 | edsiper | JordiGH, check this |
| 15:00.10 | edsiper | September 27: 19:00 UTC Students can begin submitting required code samples to Google. |
| 15:00.19 | JordiGH | Yeah, via Melange, right? |
| 15:00.34 | edsiper | not sure |
| 15:00.40 | edsiper | i dont remember what we did last year |
| 15:02.09 | stefanha | carols and team will send out an email explaining how code submission works. I wouldn't worry about it for now. |
| 15:02.55 | edsiper | stefanha, i like to prepare students for each new task that is coming, so we avoid mistake or misunderstandings.. |
| 15:04.18 | stefanha | edsiper: Then you need the official info from the OSPO team, not speculation on IRC :) |
| 15:04.42 | stefanha | edsiper: I've had questions from our students about code submissions too, but at this stage the FAQ doesn't have details. |
| 15:05.11 | stefanha | edsiper: Just wait until Friday, the details should be announced by then. |
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| 15:06.43 | edsiper | just sent an email, lets see what they reply.. |
| 15:08.59 | banas | Hello everyone, I've just wrapped up my work in this final blogpost thirstyforcola.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/gsoc-wrapup-introducing-glittergallery/. Do check it out! |
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| 15:58.09 | Achillion | Evaluation complete. |
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| 16:54.36 | nikhatzi | hello carols, can i have a word with you in private please? |
| 16:54.53 | carols | nikhatzi: sure |
| 16:54.57 | carols | gets some coffee |
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| 16:58.19 | meflin | carols: ever had ice wine tea? |
| 16:58.31 | downey | o.O |
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| 16:58.52 | meflin | now booze involved |
| 16:58.56 | meflin | err no |
| 16:58.57 | carols | meflin: no, i haven't! |
| 16:59.00 | carols | sounds wonderful |
| 16:59.20 | meflin | schemes |
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| 17:01.27 | meflin | promises have not been made but plans are being crafted ;) |
| 17:01.52 | carols | sounds awesome :-) |
| 17:04.31 | derdon | that's the first time I witness carols drinking coffee :O |
| 17:04.33 | derdon | I'm shocked |
| 17:05.03 | carols | derdon: i hope you can handle the shock when i tell you i drink coffee every morning. |
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| 17:05.38 | derdon | I ... I ... I don't know how to cope with that |
| 17:06.01 | meflin | man I dont want to clean up brain splody bits again |
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| 17:07.28 | meflin | now I want a good coffee .. dang you acid reflux! |
| 17:07.45 | Achillion | meflin: hand out helmets - keep the sploding contained |
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| 17:07.57 | meflin | good idea |
| 17:08.04 | meflin | puts a helmet on derdon |
| 17:08.31 | derdon | meflin: thanks, that helps a bit |
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| 17:36.31 | csoriano_un | hi, I can't see the form to upload the code. I'm in the Update Page, but i don't see it |
| 17:36.46 | carols | csoriano_un: have you read over the code submission guidelines? |
| 17:36.52 | csoriano_un | yeah |
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| 17:37.11 | carols | great, then you should know that code submission doesn't start until friday and only then if you've passed your final eval. |
| 17:37.25 | csoriano_un | "At the bottom of Update Project page, there is a form to upload code samples" |
| 17:37.34 | csoriano_un | carols aaaah sorry.... |
| 17:37.41 | csoriano_un | didn't understand it well |
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| 18:12.44 | aghisla | Gandalf and deadlines: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7802257152/h5E291567/ |
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| 18:24.03 | d33tah | guys |
| 18:24.07 | d33tah | i could use your help |
| 18:24.13 | d33tah | what GSoC is *NOT*? |
| 18:24.32 | d33tah | like, well, my parents and friends kept saying that i work for Google |
| 18:24.37 | d33tah | and somebody else said it's some contest |
| 18:24.41 | d33tah | what myths did you come across? |
| 18:25.09 | nikhatzi | you get paid. you work. |
| 18:25.18 | nikhatzi | that's how i see it |
| 18:25.23 | d33tah | yeah, but I don't work for Google |
| 18:25.34 | d33tah | i'm writing an article |
| 18:25.48 | scorche|sh | right - students dont work for google and it isnt a contest/competition ;) |
| 18:25.49 | d33tah | about GSoC and I thought I should add a section there on what GSoC is not |
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| 18:26.11 | d33tah | scorche|sh: got some other thoughts? |
| 18:26.31 | nikhatzi | it's an opportunity |
| 18:26.39 | nikhatzi | to right for open source projects |
| 18:26.42 | nikhatzi | and get a nice check :) |
| 18:26.46 | nikhatzi | write* |
| 18:26.50 | scorche|sh | d33tah: those are the main ones i can think of at the moment, at least |
| 18:27.09 | scorche|sh | i am sure carols hears many more of the understandings than i do ;) |
| 18:27.18 | scorche|sh | errr...misunderstandings |
| 18:27.22 | d33tah | carols: you here perhaps? ;) |
| 18:27.27 | carols | d33tah: hm? |
| 18:27.29 | carols | did you need something? |
| 18:27.41 | d33tah | i'm writing an article about GSoC |
| 18:27.48 | carols | ok... |
| 18:27.56 | d33tah | i need some materials for "what GSoC is not" |
| 18:27.59 | d33tah | i mean |
| 18:28.08 | d33tah | my parents and friends kept saying that I work for Google |
| 18:28.17 | d33tah | a common misunderstanding, you know, there's Google in the name |
| 18:28.27 | d33tah | or when I tell people about 5000 dollars |
| 18:28.31 | carols | people keep asking me to provide employment references for our students, which tells me they think it's a job. |
| 18:28.35 | carols | that's certainly a misunderstanding |
| 18:28.48 | d33tah | they immediately think of it as of a contest |
| 18:29.09 | d33tah | i think it kind of is a job, but not in the corporate sense of it |
| 18:31.55 | derdon | d33tah: my parents and even my friends too think that I work for google, even after I have explained them. I simply gave up and referred to my project as "the google project". certainly not the best idea to surrender, I like yours of writing an article |
| 18:32.45 | d33tah | derdon:^^ |
| 18:33.22 | d33tah | 20:31:06 < $ carols (carols@nat/google/x-ivgogpagdjbopjmi) has quit (Quit: carols) |
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| 18:33.30 | d33tah | looks like i won't hear more from here for today |
| 18:34.16 | downey | d33tah: GSoC is definitely not a job or any other form of employment. You're paid a stiped by Google for your voluntary work on a free & open source software project. |
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| 18:34.55 | d33tah | being paid for voluntary work. |
| 18:35.07 | d33tah | i could argue if it doesn't sound like a job :P |
| 18:35.10 | d33tah | anyway,a fk |
| 18:35.16 | ace_striker | consider it as off-line internship |
| 18:36.08 | downey | From the FAQ, "Google Summer of Code is a program that offers student developers stipends to write code for various open source projects." ... nothing more :) |
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| 18:36.42 | |Kev| | I think it depends if the question is legal or conceptual. |
| 18:36.55 | |Kev| | Conceptually it's an internship for the OSS project. |
| 18:37.23 | |Kev| | Technically/legally it's nothing of the sort, but if we're talking about discussing with family/friends, this is the analogy they're most likely to understand. |
| 18:37.35 | |Kev| | (I'd have thought) |
| 18:37.48 | derdon | isn't internship a euphemism for slavery? :P |
| 18:38.19 | |Kev| | No reason an internship shouldn't be paid. |
| 18:38.19 | paultag | you consent to be an intern, as well as get paid, and are free to not come back if you decide you don't want to |
| 18:38.36 | paultag | additionally, it's *not* an internship with Google. |
| 18:38.41 | paultag | expressly not. |
| 18:38.58 | mr- | Oh, cool! It's an internship at Google? |
| 18:39.08 | downey | ./facepalm |
| 18:39.22 | |Kev| | mr-: Have a very very small gold star. Well done. You've made an effort. |
| 18:39.27 | mr- | Sorry, could not resist |
| 18:39.36 | |Kev| | :p |
| 18:39.50 | paultag | German humor. |
| 18:40.06 | derdon | but the internship at google get the cool hats? can we get one as well? |
| 18:40.19 | derdon | (ignore the first ?) |
| 18:40.33 | mr- | derdon: No, but a shirt |
| 18:40.34 | derdon | mr-: are you german? |
| 18:40.41 | paultag | derdon: yeah, he's at uni regensburg. |
| 18:40.50 | paultag | Germans, man. |
| 18:40.53 | derdon | waves at mr- |
| 18:41.14 | mr- | Yes, I am. |
| 18:41.31 | derdon | which org do you work for? |
| 18:41.38 | mr- | Haskell |
| 18:41.43 | derdon | nice! |
| 18:41.55 | mr- | Although, I'd like to point out, there are not only germans at the University ;-) |
| 18:42.01 | mr- | derdon: you? |
| 18:42.05 | paultag | They're still in Germany! |
| 18:42.22 | paultag | viele Deutsche! |
| 18:42.26 | derdon | mr-: I work for SunPy, a Python library for solar physics |
| 18:42.32 | mr- | cool |
| 18:43.07 | derdon | yeah, it makes me kinda proud to know that people from NASA look forward to be able to use my package :) |
| 18:43.17 | mr- | :-) |
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| 21:39.11 | carldani | Hi! |
| 21:39.46 | carols | hi carldani |
| 21:39.49 | carldani | GSoC was an interesting ride for me as a mentor this year. |
| 21:40.01 | carldani | Hi carols |
| 21:41.22 | carldani | We (flashrom) got a buildbot for all supported platforms because my student took an existing rudimentary multiplatform build script and made a nice and fast buildbot out of it. |
| 21:42.14 | carldani | That was not part of the original GSoC plan for that student (the build script didn't exist back then), but now it's hard to image how we ever did without it. |
| 21:43.08 | perepujal | carldani: I am jealous :) |
| 21:44.09 | perepujal | My student di a great job whith accessibility in tuxtype and tuxmath (tux4kids) |
| 21:44.11 | carldani | We had an informal mentor-student agreement to shift the goals a bit because that buildbot is worth probably as much as the rest of the GSoC plans my student had submitted. |
| 21:45.06 | carldani | perepujal: Ah, accessibility is a really important thing, especially when targeting kids. Those benefit the most from not being hindered by disabilities. |
| 21:45.55 | carldani | carols: I just noticed that my t-shirt size had disappeared from melange, and I filled it in again a few minutes ago. I hope I'll still get a T-shirt. |
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| 21:47.07 | perepujal | He is very invested in the blind area |
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| 21:47.54 | perepujal | serves some tea and camomille |
| 21:48.12 | downey | partakes |
| 21:49.24 | carldani | carols: I just noticed that my t-shirt size had disappeared from melange, and I filled it in again a few minutes ago. I hope I'll still get a T-shirt. |
| 21:49.33 | carols | carldani: did you email me about it? |
| 21:49.41 | carldani | carols: no, should I? |
| 21:50.03 | carols | carldani: only if you want me to check. otherwise, if you don't care enough to email, it's not going to be something i pay attention to |
| 21:50.47 | carldani | carols: ok, then I'll definitely mail. Thanks! |
| 21:50.54 | carldani | I do care. |
| 21:51.07 | carldani | I wear those gsoc shirts proudly. |
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| 21:53.55 | carldani | My students at the university did ask me about those t-shirts, and maybe one of them will participate in the future. |
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