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| 08:11.14 | Ch3ck_ | xroutine |
| 08:13.48 | kai | !gsoc | Ch3ck_ |
| 08:13.48 | gsocbot | Ch3ck_: "gsoc" is Something that allows you to program for the summer in an open source project and win some cash and reputation, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open source Conundrums |
| 08:13.57 | kai | :D |
| 08:14.05 | Ch3ck_ | nice work bot! |
| 08:14.20 | Ch3ck_ | :) |
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| 08:20.33 | kai | finally an opportunity to use that factoid |
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| 12:42.13 | Fuuzetsu | Hey guys, I can't see the code submission option anywhere. I did evaluation but that's the only thing I can see. |
| 12:42.22 | Fuuzetsu | Do you have any idea where I can find it? |
| 12:42.33 | gevaerts | Fuuzetsu: yes. In the future :) |
| 12:43.04 | gevaerts | recommends having another look at the timeline |
| 12:43.09 | Fuuzetsu | Any idea how distant is that future? I have rather… limited access to the Internet at the moment and I'd rather not miss anything I have to submit. |
| 12:43.13 | Fuuzetsu | Hmm, okay, let me have a look… |
| 12:43.27 | gevaerts | Two days and a few hours, IIRC |
| 12:43.46 | Fuuzetsu | Oh, September 27th, alright. Thank you! |
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| 13:35.59 | MatthewWilkes | Hey, OT I know, but I don't suppose there are any brazilians here who want to do me a quick proofreading favour, are there? |
| 13:36.09 | MatthewWilkes | I'm a bad man for asking here, I know! |
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| 13:39.34 | JordiGH | MatthewWilkes: Will European Portuguese also work? |
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| 15:13.01 | jjs1 | "Why is this message in spam? We've found that lot's of messages from listserv.acm.org are spam." You tell 'em Gmail! |
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| 15:15.15 | MatthewWilkes | hehe |
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| 15:37.00 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 15:38.36 | hilnius | brings the biscuits |
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| 15:45.58 | kblin | three red status rows in my eval list, three red status rows... take one down, shoo mentor around, two red status rows in my eval list |
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| 15:46.45 | carols | kblin: well, you're really ahead of the curve to be worrying about that on a wednesday. everyone seems to wait until friday around 2 hours before |
| 15:47.44 | kblin | actually, compared to mid-term, only two outstanding evals left with two days to go is pretty great |
| 15:47.52 | carols | that is pretty great. |
| 15:48.11 | kblin | but the two missing mentors are at a conf, so I need to make sure they'll schedule for this |
| 15:48.27 | kblin | also one student eval is missing, but that's a bit of their own problem |
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| 15:51.40 | jjs1 | kblin: I haven't submitted my student eval yet, and I'm not terrible at organisation. |
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| 15:51.50 | jjs1 | There's a lot of them thar questions :-) |
| 15:52.16 | kblin | well, for the student side of things, it's their money not mine :) |
| 15:53.01 | jjs1 | Oh right, because you guys get kicked off the summit if you don't all submit your evals |
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| 15:53.03 | jjs1 | IIRC |
| 15:53.16 | kblin | also the student will have trouble getting paid |
| 15:53.40 | jjs1 | I see what you mean :-) |
| 15:53.47 | kblin | I'm not going to the summit this year so that part worries me a bit less ;) |
| 15:54.05 | MatthewWilkes | kai: There's the classic trick of phoning them up and forcing them to answer over the phone. I did that one year. |
| 15:54.21 | carols | MatthewWilkes: sneaky. |
| 15:54.23 | carols | i like it. |
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| 15:54.47 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: currently I'm telling all the other people I know at that conference to poke the two mentors to submit their evals |
| 15:55.10 | kblin | PSaaS.. pointy stick as a service |
| 15:55.27 | MatthewWilkes | I'd sign up for that |
| 15:55.31 | jjs1 | MatthewWilkes: "Q: What was the most challenging aspect of mentoring a student? A: How did you get my number?" |
| 15:56.59 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Oh, that reminds me. I did mention this to the melange people the other day, but I think there's a mistake on the mentor survey. At least, I hope it's a mistake, as I didn't spend 20-40 hours/week mentoring. |
| 15:57.17 | carols | MatthewWilkes: that's why there's an "other" option :-) |
| 15:57.38 | MatthewWilkes | Okay, not a mistake! Wow. If anyone's spending 40 hours a week mentoring can we get them a cake or something? |
| 15:57.51 | carols | sure :-) |
| 15:57.58 | carols | i'm not baking it, though |
| 15:58.03 | carols | i've got enough work to do as it is |
| 15:58.29 | MatthewWilkes | A likely story! |
| 15:58.51 | MatthewWilkes | I'm not baking it, it is supposed to be a reward, my cakes would be punishment |
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| 15:58.57 | carols | MatthewWilkes: you'll see soon enough what's been taking up so much of my time :-D |
| 15:59.39 | jjs1 | Aw, now I'm really curious about the mentor summit. :-( |
| 15:59.44 | jjs1 | It sounds magical! |
| 16:00.09 | MatthewWilkes | "Google does not pre-announce programmes. Google does not pre-announce products. Google does not pre-announce fun activities." |
| 16:00.25 | carols | jjs1: you don't have to be at the mentor summit to figure this out. |
| 16:00.31 | carols | it'll be very obvious when it happens |
| 16:01.31 | jjs1 | Wow. :-o |
| 16:01.53 | jjs1 | Did the open source office mentor a "Take over the world" project or something? :) |
| 16:02.10 | carols | jjs1: i've been working very hard. |
| 16:02.13 | carols | that's all i'll say. |
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| 16:02.51 | chro | what kind of answers are you expecting for this question: "Do you have any interesting or colorful experiences or takeaways you'd like to share?" |
| 16:03.10 | MatthewWilkes | carols: That's more than you usually say. I'm excited. |
| 16:03.20 | carols | MatthewWilkes: you'll see :-) |
| 16:03.31 | jjs1 | carols: Wow! I'll keep an ear open, or both eyes to the ground-- or whatever that saying is :) |
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| 16:04.53 | jjs1 | There's a question for students "What has been the most challenging and/or rewarding part of participating in Google Summer of Code?". |
| 16:05.03 | jjs1 | The last sentence of my answer was: "And I like money!" |
| 16:05.08 | jjs1 | :-D |
| 16:05.36 | chro | jjs1, and what was the rest of your answer ? |
| 16:06.44 | jjs1 | chro: The bit about having the opportunity to work professional devs around the world, writing code that actually gets used, and so on. :) |
| 16:07.43 | jjs1 | I might change that sentence actually: "And there's a t-shirt!". hehe |
| 16:08.19 | chro | jjs1, what about the question I mentioned before, how did you answer it ? |
| 16:09.24 | jjs1 | chro: I didn't really. That one's optional as far as I can tell. |
| 16:09.49 | chro | it is not optional that one |
| 16:10.05 | jjs1 | chro: Are you a mentor or a student? |
| 16:10.09 | chro | student |
| 16:10.23 | jjs1 | So am I, and it looks optional to me. |
| 16:10.30 | jjs1 | But I didn't hit submit yet. |
| 16:11.41 | carols | i purposefully make most of the long-form answer questions optional. i don't think most people will have an answer to all of them anyway. |
| 16:14.01 | jjs1 | I'm out of here. Good luck again folks. :) |
| 16:14.42 | aghisla | postpones missing evaluations chase to tomorrow - people got the Melange warning already |
| 16:15.13 | paultag | sent a pretty annoying email to all the slackers. |
| 16:15.21 | paultag | hopes they get done now. |
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| 16:34.38 | jkridner | anyone know if there is a specific place code should be uploaded? it seems the projects only have places to put links to code. |
| 16:35.25 | carols | jkridner: have you read the code submission guidelines? |
| 16:36.05 | jkridner | carols: didn't see that in the FAQ. the question links to the main page. will look again. |
| 16:36.17 | carols | the email i sent to the students list contains a link. |
| 16:37.58 | jkridner | carols: how do I know if they've done it? I do know where each student's code is, but not if it is shared with Google specifically. |
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| 16:38.20 | carols | jkridner: wait, are you a student or a mentor? |
| 16:38.36 | jkridner | org admin |
| 16:38.41 | carols | i see. |
| 16:38.57 | carols | students can't upload their code until they've successfully passed their final evaluation |
| 16:39.07 | carols | once they've uploaded it it will be linked to on their project page. |
| 16:39.10 | jkridner | do they know before Friday? |
| 16:39.13 | carols | nope |
| 16:39.15 | jkridner | k. |
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| 17:57.16 | sunu | !timeline |
| 17:57.17 | gsocbot | sunu: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 18:15.09 | Ch3ck_ | sees there's alot of tea and coffee at carol's end ;) |
| 18:15.51 | carols | is there? |
| 18:16.01 | carols | i've been drinking a lot of it, that's for sure |
| 18:16.35 | Ch3ck_ | :) |
| 18:16.58 | downey | !tea |
| 18:16.58 | gsocbot | downey: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax! |
| 18:17.25 | carols | downey: for getting an auto responder when i send you emails, you sure are on the tea delivery :-) |
| 18:18.33 | kblin | I wonder if downey is a bot ;) |
| 18:18.35 | downey | carols: my irc client buzzes my phone when tea is mentioned |
| 18:18.55 | carols | downey: i see. just the important things. |
| 18:18.59 | downey | carols: indeed |
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| 19:10.04 | nlminhtl | I must fill only a questionare, don't I? |
| 19:10.10 | nlminhtl | mustn't I* |
| 19:10.17 | derdon | for now, yes |
| 19:10.39 | derdon | and on 27th of September, you upload some code sample |
| 19:13.03 | carols | what derdon said |
| 19:14.51 | JordiGH | What happens if the mentor passes or fails the student when it's kind of obvious that the opposite choice is the right one? |
| 19:15.05 | JordiGH | e.g. a student submits almost no code but the mentor passes the student out of pity? |
| 19:15.23 | carols | JordiGH: i'm not sure what you mean. |
| 19:15.31 | carols | you mean the org admin and the mentor are in disagreeement? |
| 19:15.37 | scorche|sh | JordiGH: mentors dont often work in a vacuum - this is also what org admins are for |
| 19:15.57 | JordiGH | No, they are in agreement, for whatever reason. What I wonder is if Google would get annoyed if this happens. |
| 19:16.16 | carols | JordiGH: annoyed? that the student passes? |
| 19:16.19 | carols | i'm still cnofused. |
| 19:16.33 | JordiGH | Yeah, annoyed that the org passed a student who "clearly" shouldn't have passed. |
| 19:16.48 | derdon | I don't think google will be annoyed :D |
| 19:16.56 | carols | JordiGH: i don't "clearly" know anything about these students. you're the one that works with them, not me. |
| 19:17.02 | carols | if you pass them then i assume they should pass |
| 19:17.41 | Triskelios | it's the org's criteria, not Google's |
| 19:17.55 | JordiGH | i.e. what's our incentive for failing students? I don't care if they get the money or not, since it's not my money, and I lose nothing by passing them, whereas I feel like I lose something by failing them by creating unhappiness between us and them. |
| 19:17.59 | kblin | so, apart from the fun of the gedankenexperiment, what would be the point of doing that? |
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| 19:18.48 | derdon | TIL "gedankenexperiment" is used in the english language :D |
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| 19:18.52 | JordiGH | So what's my incentive for being a meanie and failing them? |
| 19:18.58 | JordiGH | derdon: "thought experiment" is more common, I think. |
| 19:19.10 | derdon | german words in the english language always seem funny to me |
| 19:19.18 | scorche|sh | JordiGH: doing what should be done, really... |
| 19:19.24 | carols | JordiGH: you don't have an incentive to fail them. |
| 19:19.28 | JordiGH | derdon: German words like "handy" and "beamer"? |
| 19:19.30 | carols | you do it because it's the right thing to do. |
| 19:19.59 | derdon | JordiGH: hehe |
| 19:20.00 | carols | which is reason # 741 i'm so careful about what orgs we choose to participate in this program |
| 19:20.06 | carols | because i have to trust you to do the Right Thing |
| 19:20.12 | kblin | (tm) |
| 19:20.19 | carols | thanks kblin |
| 19:20.27 | kblin | my pleasure :) |
| 19:20.28 | Achillion | chants "The greater good" |
| 19:20.28 | JordiGH | carols: Ok, I was wondering if there could be some sort of backlash for not being selected next year because we turned out to be too nice of an org who passed students who shouldn't pass. |
| 19:20.54 | carols | JordiGH: i have no metric by which to decide whether your students objectively should or shouldn't pass. |
| 19:20.57 | carols | how would i even know? |
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| 19:21.08 | scorche|sh | there are *thousands* of students |
| 19:21.10 | kblin | also, checking this really doesn't scale |
| 19:21.12 | JordiGH | We have a few borderline students this year, whereas the past years we had all solid stars. So we're doing some soul-searching about whether to pass or not. |
| 19:21.20 | kblin | what Mr. scorche|sh said :) |
| 19:21.21 | paultag | JordiGH: giving a pass to a student who shouldn't is sometimes worse |
| 19:21.43 | JordiGH | carols: Well, if the student only submits five lines of code at the end, that's kind of hard to recognise as a "pass", eh? |
| 19:21.43 | paultag | if they gave it their 100%, it's tough to fail them (to me anyway) |
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| 19:21.54 | paultag | JordiGH: unless those 5 lines are mind-blowing |
| 19:22.01 | Achillion | It could be 5 lines of magic code |
| 19:22.04 | JordiGH | paultag: Well, my student didn't invent sleepsort. |
| 19:22.11 | carols | JordiGH: if they submit code at all then that's all they have to do. if they don't submit code they're required to return their final payment. |
| 19:22.12 | kblin | or pretty long lines ;) |
| 19:22.13 | paultag | yeah, perhaps not a great answer |
| 19:22.17 | carols | i'm not an engineer, i can't assess the code. |
| 19:22.23 | paultag | kblin++ |
| 19:22.26 | gevaerts | How long are the lines? ;) |
| 19:22.35 | paultag | A friend of mine made an IRC bot with one line of Python |
| 19:22.38 | paultag | which was impresive |
| 19:22.40 | kblin | gevaerts: my thoughts exactly |
| 19:23.05 | kblin | paultag: os.system('supybot') ? |
| 19:23.08 | paultag | :> |
| 19:23.13 | paultag | brilliant! |
| 19:23.26 | paultag | hands kblin the gold star :) |
| 19:23.30 | JordiGH | Actually, most of our students this year are kind of borderline. :-/ |
| 19:23.33 | JordiGH | I'm not sure what to do. |
| 19:23.42 | JordiGH | Statistically, some should fail, but I can make a case for passing all of them. |
| 19:23.51 | scorche|sh | get with your mentors and figure it out |
| 19:23.59 | scorche|sh | get with the students even if you want |
| 19:24.22 | paultag | yeah. |
| 19:24.25 | scorche|sh | we have failed students before and spoken to the students - they completely agreed with us and still went on to be a contributor |
| 19:24.26 | kblin | apart from worrying about passing/failing them, I'd worry about the mentoring, tbh |
| 19:24.38 | paultag | JordiGH: look at the project, see what they said they'd deliver, line it up, get mentor input |
| 19:24.46 | JordiGH | kblin: yeah, I think we made a mistake by taking too many slots. Spread ourselves too thin. |
| 19:24.49 | paultag | JordiGH: see if they really worked as much as they said they did (and if that was enough) |
| 19:25.08 | kblin | not saying you did anything wrong, but still it'd be worth figuring out how to improve next year |
| 19:25.24 | paultag | (and tell us a the mentor's summit) |
| 19:26.07 | kblin | JordiGH: so personally I've never failed a student due to lack of skill, but only due to a lack of effort |
| 19:26.51 | paultag | == kblin |
| 19:27.28 | paultag | if the project was too big, perhaps that's on you (as the org) - if they were at 100%, it might have been too much |
| 19:27.38 | paultag | (no judgement, it happens) |
| 19:27.47 | derdon | kblin: I think that's exactly how the mentors should decide whether to let someone pass or not |
| 19:28.06 | kblin | and the mentors should have a pretty good feeling for the effort the student is putting in |
| 19:28.38 | kblin | we had a student who got into a nasty traffic accident and had to spend weeks in the hospital |
| 19:29.26 | carols | kblin: every year so many GSOC students fall into mortal peril and so many grandmothers die… |
| 19:29.38 | paultag | GSoC-itis |
| 19:30.00 | kblin | carols: well, in that case I was pretty convinced |
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| 19:30.24 | Achillion | Have a gsoc student calculate the expected value of deaths in a student's family during gsoc |
| 19:30.25 | paultag | carols: ever consider having the student's family sign wavers letting them know of the high danger? |
| 19:30.40 | carols | paultag: it's certainly something to think about. |
| 19:30.57 | carols | particularly happens around the midterm |
| 19:31.00 | paultag | aye |
| 19:31.12 | carols | $2250 is enough money to motivate a lot of stories |
| 19:31.23 | paultag | sure is. |
| 19:31.29 | kblin | anyway, in our case the mentor worked with the student afterwards and they got the project back on track |
| 19:31.32 | paultag | even more when they've already spent it |
| 19:31.49 | carols | kblin: that's heartening to hear. |
| 19:32.22 | kblin | the student didn't quite make the original milestones, but we could see the effort to make it |
| 19:32.28 | JordiGH | We had two students in mortal peril this year. |
| 19:32.38 | paultag | We had none this year \o/ |
| 19:32.47 | JordiGH | And we had a student not have internet access for a while while he was getting evicted from his apartment. |
| 19:33.08 | JordiGH | Curiously enough, these are our most borderline students. :-/ |
| 19:33.13 | kblin | as opposed to some students that I had to let go that came up with a new excuse every week |
| 19:33.38 | kblin | and where I never could see a reasonable sustained effort to get back on track |
| 19:33.54 | derdon | "my dog ate all the code"? |
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| 19:34.27 | JordiGH | derdon: Well, in this case, the code was in hg and widely mirrored, so canine gastronomy was not a danger. |
| 19:34.36 | Achillion | derdon: One of those desktop pets that ends up being a virus ... sounds plausible to me |
| 19:35.12 | kblin | I had students that had a high rate of hdd mortality, always right before they could git push |
| 19:35.44 | derdon | it's sort of an inside joke between my friends and me to yell "VIRUS!" if anything didn't happen as you wanted to |
| 19:35.47 | Achillion | Excessive coding causes vibrations on the desk that damage the hard drive |
| 19:36.33 | derdon | "I must not code faster than my hard drive can read it" |
| 19:37.03 | Achillion | It's an issue |
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| 19:38.19 | jjs11 | I think people like that need to fail sometimes, otherwise they'll never improve |
| 19:38.37 | jjs11 | I mean they'll never learn to type softly so the vibrations don't ruin their hdds |
| 19:38.48 | derdon | lol |
| 19:38.56 | kblin | but according to a shaved scientist named Occam, the more likely explanation is that they also were trying to get another job next to gsoc and can't work on both |
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| 19:39.31 | Achillion | kblin: I dunno, I would think that general summer laziness is more plausible |
| 19:40.18 | jjs11 | kblin: But according to a shaved guy named Hanlon, they probably didn't mean to be bad :) |
| 19:40.33 | kblin | no, in pretty much all cases the students lated admitted they got another job |
| 19:41.04 | Achillion | huh. Ok then. I guess I might have been projecting :) |
| 19:41.15 | kblin | one even asked me if I could extend a deadline I had given him because if he didn't get a "work" project done in time, his boss was going to fire him |
| 19:42.32 | jjs11 | kblin: Not a good situation :( |
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| 19:43.52 | kblin | jjs11: actually it's a straightforward situation. |
| 19:44.33 | jjs1 | kblin: Did you tell them to chose between 'jobs'? |
| 19:44.41 | kblin | we ask about other obligations over the summer on our application forms. |
| 19:45.01 | kblin | we also ask to notify us if anything changes in regards to that |
| 19:45.28 | kblin | so if you lie to me about this, I probably can't trust you on the code either |
| 19:45.38 | notdan | Please excuse me if this is considered off-topic or innapropriate, but I would like to pinch in my small post where I share my reflections on the GSoC: http://parenz.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/gsoc-2013-an-afterword/ |
| 19:45.58 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: We've actually had applicants delete the "Do you have other commitments" question from the template, to try and hide it without lying |
| 19:46.24 | Achillion | Did they wistle and look around while they were doing it? |
| 19:46.28 | Achillion | whistly* |
| 19:46.31 | kblin | MatthewWilkes: well, bonus points for creativity |
| 19:46.34 | Achillion | garh, whistle |
| 19:46.57 | kblin | but still, big bucket of fail |
| 19:47.22 | kblin | Achillion: whistly? that web service for whist players? |
| 19:47.33 | Achillion | No idea! |
| 19:48.29 | kblin | not sure if it exists, but if it takes off, you heard it here first. |
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| 19:48.55 | MatthewWilkes | kblin: My face was something like http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/SRSLY_16d898_2336229.gif when I noticed |
| 19:49.20 | Achillion | makes a note of whistly |
| 19:49.55 | kshitij8 | Being a student, I did have my exams during the GSoC period which really required me step away from the project for a bit. Is that really a bad thing to do? |
| 19:50.47 | kblin | kshitij8: if my students tell me about that beforehand, I'm fine with that |
| 19:51.01 | derdon | kshitij8: I bad thing is more not learning for the exam :( I speak from experience |
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| 19:51.30 | kblin | we've had students go on vacation. if it's properly scheduled for and communicated, you can make this work |
| 19:53.12 | derdon | I can confirm that, kblin :) |
| 19:53.20 | notdan | I made up for the exams time by starting earlier, my mentro was OK with it |
| 19:53.26 | notdan | mentor* |
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| 19:54.20 | ankitkv | I had an unexpected health problem, and lost 10 days because of that |
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| 20:27.53 | JordiGH | Is it too late to pick someone else to go to the summit? I had to back out. |
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| 20:28.42 | carols | JordiGH: as long as it's a one-to-one swap and it doesn't add any additional cost to your travel, i'm fine with it. |
| 20:29.16 | JordiGH | Oh, it might. This dude would be coming from Europe. I would have been flying in from America. |
| 20:30.11 | carols | and you're willing to pay the travel difference on your own? |
| 20:31.24 | JordiGH | Maybe. I'd have to ask bkuhn. |
| 20:36.42 | JordiGH | Oh, never mind, this dude isn't registered on Melange as a mentor. He just acted all along as a very active unofficial mentor. |
| 20:37.03 | carols | yeah, he doesn't count unless he's got a profile on melange as a mentor or org admin |
| 20:37.04 | JordiGH | Well, there's another one who could go who should be working in Facebook by then, so I'm sure his travel expenses would be tiny. :-) |
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| 21:20.15 | paultag | melange* |
| 21:20.29 | paultag | found it, sorry. |
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| 22:15.21 | Achillion | Reading the code submission guidelines, I wonder if people might submit code in a file that's actually named "Carol_Smith.tar.gz" |
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| 22:25.40 | jjs1 | <Context_bot> Achillion: "Name your tarball file according to the following convention: givennames_surnames.tar.* (e.g. Carol_Smith.tar.gz)" |
| 22:26.04 | Achillion | Oh sorry, I was suggesting it's ok |
| 22:26.15 | Achillion | I was making a joke about people misunderstanding the example as an instruction |
| 22:26.32 | jjs1 | Huh? I know. I thought people might want the context :) |
| 22:26.47 | Achillion | Right, my bad then. |
| 22:26.56 | Framedragger | that is a very nice idea for a context bot.. mmm |
| 22:26.58 | Achillion | I thought you misunderstood and ended up misunderstanding. Funny how that always happens :| |
| 22:27.15 | jjs1 | Achillion: hehe, don't sweat it ^_^ |
| 22:27.29 | Achillion | :) |
| 22:29.11 | derdon | if the students are supposed to upload tarballs, that sounds like we should upload the whole code we have written and not just a sample |
| 22:29.16 | derdon | is that true? |
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| 22:30.04 | Achillion | no, the requirements are pretty relaxed |
| 22:30.14 | Achillion | "can include source files, a single .diff file, multiple .diff files, binary files, etc" |
| 22:30.33 | jjs1 | Yep, that's from the guidelines that carols wrote: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines |
| 22:30.35 | Achillion | I guess they want anything that describes your work. |
| 22:30.42 | jjs1 | I believe the first paragraph covers your question :-) |
| 22:30.51 | derdon | ok, thank you |
| 22:31.47 | jjs1 | derdon: But if it doesn't, I'm sure someone here can give you a better reply than mine :-) |
| 22:32.35 | derdon | ha! they know what's more important: "We will begin sending final program payments to all students whether or not we have a code sample on file for you, but we will send neither t-shirt nor certificate to you until we have received your code sample." |
| 22:32.45 | derdon | I don't care about the money, give me the T-Shirt! |
| 22:33.27 | jjs1 | But also "Any student who does not provide a code sample will be expected to return the final program payment to us." |
| 22:33.45 | jjs1 | !codesamples |
| 22:33.45 | gsocbot | jjs1: "codesamples" is See: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines |
| 22:46.14 | Achillion | The GSoC pen is also neat but it gets no mentions. Poor pen. |
| 22:47.11 | derdon | Achillion: mine became empty quite quickly :( |
| 22:47.25 | Achillion | I don't use it that much, yet. |
| 22:47.37 | Achillion | I'm sure you can get replacement ink thingies |
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| 22:48.27 | derdon | no, not around here. they haven't been built according to the holy national German DIN standard :P |
| 22:48.38 | Achillion | ebay? |
| 22:48.53 | derdon | maybe. but I doubt it's worth the effort |
| 22:49.25 | Achillion | Probably not. I see no markings on the pen. |
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