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| 03:19.10 | ace_unicorn | the buzzword.. |
| 03:19.23 | ace_unicorn | internship/job |
| 03:24.00 | ace_unicorn | i just don't get it ..where there is repetition at http://www.google.com/about/jobs/students/ |
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| 10:35.58 | viknesh | how to start with gsoc ? |
| 10:38.21 | ace_unicorn | viknesh: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 10:38.58 | gevaerts | !studentguide | viknesh |
| 10:38.58 | gsocbot | viknesh: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 10:39.00 | gevaerts | Also that one |
| 10:41.48 | ace_unicorn | viknesh: also this one http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/ |
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| 19:09.19 | AndreiDuma | hi |
| 19:09.28 | AndreiDuma | does gsoc qualify as 'employment'? |
| 19:23.07 | gaurav23 | AndreiDuma: No |
| 19:23.37 | gaurav23 | one can't simple exploit Google name simply |
| 19:24.01 | olly_ | i think it really depends why you're asking |
| 19:24.20 | olly_ | you should write "worked at google" on your CV/resume, as you clearly didn't |
| 19:24.29 | AndreiDuma | olly_, I'm wondering if gsoc fits in the 'employment' section of a resume |
| 19:24.37 | olly_ | but if the local tax office ask "were you employed", the answer is likely yes |
| 19:24.58 | gaurav23 | you liable to pay tax.. |
| 19:25.03 | gaurav23 | no exemption for student likely there |
| 19:25.16 | AndreiDuma | aha. |
| 19:25.34 | AndreiDuma | I'll label it as 'technical experience' |
| 19:25.41 | AndreiDuma | thanks. |
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| 19:26.02 | gaurav23 | AndreiDuma: https://wiki.mozilla.org/FreeSoftwareOnResumes:Writing |
| 19:26.06 | olly_ | i think if you describe it correctly, it would fit as either |
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| 19:27.42 | olly_ | sorry, to clarify, I meant to write "you should NOT write "worked at google" on your CV/resume, as you clearly didn't" |
| 19:28.28 | gaurav23 | * |
| 19:29.18 | AndreiDuma | olly_, got that :P |
| 19:29.40 | kblin | The computer core required is N2. This |
| 19:29.40 | kblin | prevents folding sequences whose length exceeds 1000 nucle- |
| 19:29.47 | kblin | whoops, sorry |
| 19:29.56 | kblin | needs a focus follows brain WM |
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| 19:31.00 | gevaerts | kblin: if it's any consolation, a few days ago I thought "grep -r <keyword> *", and my fingers converted that to "rm -rf <keyword> *" |
| 19:31.48 | hello_world | grep -rl is better |
| 19:31.58 | gevaerts | hello_world: than rm -rf? Yes |
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| 19:32.20 | olly_ | it is less effective at deleting files |
| 19:32.22 | gevaerts | Than grep -r, however, no, unless you want grep -rl |
| 19:32.52 | gevaerts | I got lucky, really. It was in an svn checkout without local modifications |
| 19:33.21 | hello_world | lucky you. |
| 19:34.23 | gevaerts | My first action after that was to get more coffee :) |
| 19:35.00 | hello_world | sometimes ..as a hack to deal with such problem..i cut the power supply immediately ..so that none of process get on hard-disk ..worked sometimes for me. |
| 19:35.23 | gevaerts | That won't work reliably |
| 19:35.34 | hello_world | yes..not reliable for sure. |
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| 19:36.18 | gevaerts | Also, really, just make sure you have backups :) |
| 19:36.20 | Triskelios | I wouldn't consider myself lucky to if I had to use Subversion :) |
| 19:36.34 | hello_world | may be for older processors for sure...but not for today's processors |
| 19:36.43 | gevaerts | Triskelios: why? It's a lot better than CVS :) |
| 19:36.58 | olly_ | the youth of today, eh? |
| 19:37.17 | olly_ | in my day we thought CVS was a marvellous step forward from RCS |
| 19:37.22 | Triskelios | gevaerts: so is stabbing myself with a fork |
| 19:37.25 | hello_world | i mean the i-series processors |
| 19:37.37 | gevaerts | Triskelios: you're seriously overstating your case |
| 19:38.12 | gevaerts | Sure, a dvcs is better, but subversion isn't bad... |
| 19:39.10 | gevaerts | Also, in some cases, subversion *is* better :) |
| 19:39.29 | Achillion | I'm currently versioning word documents with git. I'm aware of how silly this is, but it's kinda cool that you can read diffs |
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| 19:41.01 | hello_world | git is cool too..but i don't know if it can be compared to svn or other |
| 19:41.13 | gevaerts | Of course it can! |
| 19:41.26 | Achillion | How is it not comparable? |
| 19:41.50 | gevaerts | You can compare a planet to an abstract concept if you want, so why not svn to git? :) |
| 19:42.38 | hello_world | yeah imagination is beyond the reach itself..but i am trying to have the point where svn is having an advantage over git .. |
| 19:42.40 | Achillion | That's an odd example, but I'll take it |
| 19:43.01 | hello_world | though i can google itself. |
| 19:43.19 | Achillion | I'm no professional developer or anything, but I can't imagine a case where I would prefer svn over git. |
| 19:43.43 | Achillion | But that might just be personal bias getting in the way of reality |
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| 19:44.16 | gevaerts | The thing with a dvcs is that its workflows are necessarily more complicated than with a centralised vcs, and sometimes you're the one who has to explain it all to your coworkers who may not be convinced they need any vcs in the first place... |
| 19:46.26 | hello_world | bit agree there |
| 19:46.41 | hello_world | byte agree there |
| 19:47.10 | Achillion | gevaerts: very well. You may have 10 points for that argument |
| 19:47.38 | hello_world | gevaerts++ |
| 19:50.48 | gevaerts | Achillion: thanks! What can I spend them on? :) |
| 19:51.04 | Achillion | uhm |
| 19:51.18 | Achillion | Well, you're allowed to spend them in a subsequent discussion |
| 19:51.28 | Achillion | sort of like a free argument in your favour |
| 19:51.28 | gevaerts | bets he needs at least 20 points to get anything remotely useful or fun |
| 19:51.35 | Achillion | lol |
| 19:51.51 | gevaerts | I want the fluffy toy on the second row! |
| 19:52.05 | Achillion | That's easily worth more than 40 points |
| 19:52.37 | gevaerts | :( |
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| 19:52.57 | Achillion | I know, it makes me sad too, but I don't make the rules |
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| 20:04.13 | kblin | actually, svn beats git hands down if you need to store large binary files |
| 20:04.56 | kblin | there's some trickery to get git to suck less in use cases like that, but svn still takes the cake |
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| 20:06.27 | waldi | git annex works, but needs some sort of global view on the repositories |
| 20:09.07 | waldi | gevaerts: everyone needs a vcs, no exceptions. most people don't know it, until they can't find an old version of $important_document |
| 20:09.24 | gevaerts | waldi: I don't disagree there |
| 20:15.24 | hello_world | git vs svn | round 2 |
| 20:15.52 | FireFly | zsh: command not found: round |
| 20:15.59 | gevaerts | hello_world: that's where you go wrong! |
| 20:16.17 | gevaerts | It's all trade-offs, and you have to pick the right tool for the job |
| 20:16.57 | olly_ | gevaerts: i see you've played knifey-spooney before |
| 20:17.39 | hello_world | yes .. i agree .. one should simply choose the tool that suites the situation best . . every tool has point and it can't be god since god does not exist too..atleast |
| 20:18.48 | hello_world | leviosa |
| 20:24.30 | kblin | noooo.. you should always have a spork with an edge on one side... |
| 20:24.55 | kblin | a sporkive |
| 20:27.38 | Achillion | http://xkcd.com/419/ |
| 20:27.42 | Achillion | (relevant) |
| 20:28.11 | Achillion | (...ish) |
| 20:29.20 | hello_world | glad xkcd is being used.. |
| 20:30.20 | hello_world | but what happens after two weeks ..haha |
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| 20:55.14 | kblin | grrr |
| 20:55.31 | kblin | brushes with paywall articles again |
| 20:55.57 | kblin | $20 for an article published in Science in 1966? seriously? |
| 20:56.31 | kblin | 1-day short term access, as well |
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| 21:02.03 | waldi | kblin: sure |
| 21:02.18 | waldi | which one? |
| 21:02.20 | hello_world | kblin: try to replicate one of their server ip adress and then do ssh.. |
| 21:02.31 | hello_world | no paywall then |
| 21:03.55 | hello_world | using bot..siting on their server ..bit complex here |
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| 21:20.29 | kblin | waldi: "Evolution of the structure of ferredoxin based on living relics of primitive amino acid sequences", by Eck and Dayhoff |
| 21:21.23 | waldi | Science 15 April 1966: 363-366? |
| 21:21.50 | kblin | yeah |
| 21:25.13 | waldi | wow. i now have two copies, but the checksum does not match |
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| 21:27.38 | waldi | wow. the modification date is set to now() |
| 21:28.16 | kblin | hehe |
| 21:36.44 | kblin | whoops, SIGWIFE, see you folks tomorrow |
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