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| 06:45.57 | shel3over | http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Cloak-on-IRC plz ! |
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| 07:32.57 | john___ | Iam in 4th year b.tech cse |
| 07:33.04 | john___ | can i join gsoc?? |
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| 07:34.04 | john___ | someone answer |
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| 08:04.04 | brlcad | john___: the FAQ answers your question |
| 08:09.53 | john___ | no it doesnt |
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| 08:10.40 | john___ | :( |
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| 14:16.37 | JordiGH | I never know what to do when people approach me with generic "how can I help Octave" questions. I try to give them generic answers, and sometimes we've sort of managed to get GSoC contributors out of them, but they have never stuck around after GSoC. I really don't like career GSoC students, who are just in it for the summer and are never heard from again, or who jump from free org to free org during consecutive summers hoping to pad up their CV so |
| 14:16.37 | JordiGH | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.07 | JordiGH | So... do you guys have some advice on what to do when someone comes with generic "how can I help?" questions and does not have any idea what your org does to begin with? |
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| 14:21.29 | perepujal | JordiGH: Direct them to a generic "How can I help?" page? |
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| 14:21.49 | JordiGH | Already did that. Now they ask me for specific bugs. |
| 14:22.01 | JordiGH | I don't know, man, why don't you first use the software so you know which bugs affect you? |
| 14:22.28 | perepujal | LOL |
| 14:22.30 | JordiGH | LOL |
| 14:23.36 | JordiGH | It seems to me that the people who actually stick around are the ones who care about the software, not GSoC. |
| 14:23.55 | JordiGH | So I have little motivation to talk to people who just came to me because they threw a dart on the GSoC org list and hit my org. |
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| 14:26.20 | lambdhanjian | It seems so many people don't like the students who just want to join GSoC. |
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| 14:27.05 | perepujal | Ideally one wants people who will stick with the org |
| 14:27.26 | JordiGH | lambdhanjian: I don't like students who want to work for GSoC instead of working for Octave. |
| 14:28.39 | perepujal | Basically many of mentors wants long term collegues/friends instead of 3month employees |
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| 14:29.39 | JordiGH | Yes. We really don't get any value out of GSoC if the students don't stick around after GSoC. |
| 14:29.52 | JordiGH | Student code is rarely usable after the 3-month mark. |
| 14:31.19 | perepujal | This has advantages too, I began to learn C by integrating code left by GSOC students :) |
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| 16:57.55 | hello123 | hey can anyone help me in choosing an desired organisation ! |
| 16:59.14 | hello123 | I am a quick learner , and loves coding , but every organisation is made wid smethn or the other new programming languages ! |
| 16:59.31 | hello123 | can u people plss help me in getting into some organisation ? |
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| 16:59.41 | hello123 | hey is any one dere ? |
| 17:00.06 | hello123 | Any mentor if present please help ! |
| 17:00.10 | perepujal | hello123: what apps do you use the most? |
| 17:00.19 | perepujal | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.44 | hello123 | i know , java , c, c++ , and a bit of javascrpt |
| 17:00.45 | perepujal | What abilities do you have/will learn? |
| 17:01.31 | hello123 | coding , software devlopmnt ! |
| 17:01.57 | hello123 | perepujal can u help me out ! |
| 17:01.58 | brlcad | well that pretty much fits with almost any org |
| 17:02.23 | hello123 | Which organisation should i choose ! |
| 17:02.44 | hello123 | which will help me to get into gsoc |
| 17:02.48 | perepujal | many orgs wants people who will stay with them after GSOC, so they try to find people who is interested in the org instead of people who is interested in get a summer job |
| 17:02.49 | brlcad | you need to consider what applications or areas of software development interest you, like graphics or networking or gaming or algorithms or ... |
| 17:03.13 | hello123 | I will obviously will keep on wid dat organistion |
| 17:03.16 | brlcad | if you focus just on getting into gsoc, you're going to have a bad time |
| 17:03.29 | hello123 | even aftr the end of gsoc |
| 17:03.50 | hello123 | okay , now my primary target is to work into an organisation ! |
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| 17:04.06 | hello123 | a devlopment friendly organisatn |
| 17:04.21 | brlcad | your secondary target should be writing complete words on irc ;) |
| 17:04.44 | hello123 | sorry sir , i will try to cooperate ! |
| 17:05.02 | brlcad | don't be sorry, it's just a bit of advice -- you can take it or leave it |
| 17:05.18 | brlcad | not writing well often correlates with not coding well |
| 17:05.52 | hello123 | This does not seems pretty true sir ! |
| 17:06.20 | perepujal | for an english speaker that may be true, but for the rest of the world... |
| 17:06.23 | brlcad | coding well usually requires paying attention to details like spelling and punctuation because simple typos can result in incredibly difficult bugs |
| 17:07.00 | brlcad | like I said, just my experience and it's a pattern that spans cultures and languages when it comes to code |
| 17:07.12 | brlcad | there are always exceptions, but they're certainly not the majority |
| 17:09.55 | brlcad | no importa si hablan ingles o otra idioma, la diferencia es su atención a los detaalles |
| 17:10.08 | hello123 | I am intrested in php , or javascrpt |
| 17:10.41 | brlcad | (doesn't matter if they speak english or another language, the difference is their attention to details) |
| 17:10.42 | hello123 | brlcad , i dont understand your language , can you please speak in english |
| 17:11.11 | brlcad | hello123: of course, it was just a point being made :) |
| 17:11.27 | hello123 | So sir which organisation you suggest me to get into |
| 17:11.43 | brlcad | that is really for you to decide based on your interests |
| 17:12.15 | perepujal | I think the programing language approach is not the best |
| 17:12.21 | brlcad | php or javascript (or c, java, c++) is a very broad range of skills |
| 17:12.28 | brlcad | think about what you want to do |
| 17:12.43 | perepujal | I'd suggest the area of interest approach: graphics, networking, etc |
| 17:12.45 | brlcad | graphics? networking? gaming? desktop app? mobile app? |
| 17:12.58 | hello123 | desktop app |
| 17:13.31 | hello123 | gaming |
| 17:13.49 | brlcad | this isn't 20 questions, it's for you to think about and then do some searching for orgs that match your interests ;) |
| 17:14.50 | brlcad | there are several gaming orgs that participate in gsoc, you could start with them and see if any interest you |
| 17:16.17 | brlcad | play their games, see if any would be interesting to you, interesting enough to contribute to them as a developer to help them improve |
| 17:16.54 | hello123 | can u suggest some organisation sir !! |
| 17:17.05 | brlcad | get to know their development community (introduce yourself to a couple), use the app, work on a bug fix or three |
| 17:17.13 | brlcad | omg |
| 17:17.30 | brlcad | seriously, the answer to that question will remain an emphatic NO |
| 17:17.49 | hello123 | sorry sir , i will look into it ! |
| 17:18.29 | brlcad | and it indicates you're not listening if you keep asking for a suggestion... do your homework |
| 17:18.48 | brlcad | many will be more than happy to help you figure out if you're a good fit, just talk to them |
| 17:19.06 | brlcad | but you have to approach them, not be pushed to any of them |
| 17:21.44 | hello123 | KDE games can be a good option ? |
| 17:21.56 | brlcad | any that sound interesting to you is an excellent option |
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| 17:22.43 | brlcad | pretty much most (all?) orgs that participate in GSoC are more than "good" options |
| 17:22.46 | hello123 | what are the other organisation deals with gaming stuff ! |
| 17:22.53 | brlcad | they don't get to participate by being mediocre |
| 17:22.53 | hello123 | how is sahana foundation |
| 17:23.10 | brlcad | sahana helps build disaster relief software |
| 17:24.53 | hello123 | One of friends got into sahana ! |
| 17:25.17 | hello123 | Sir whch organisation are you working with ! |
| 17:26.01 | hello123 | I am intrested in working under you as my mentor |
| 17:27.29 | brlcad | I've worked with, mentored, and admin'd several orgs |
| 17:28.09 | brlcad | I suggest you browse through the orgs and contact them directly in the ways they communicate (some use mailing lists, others forums, others IRC) |
| 17:28.20 | brlcad | if you go to their org page in melange, their methods of contact are on the right |
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| 17:46.17 | hello123 | brlcad , i am new to open source , i realy want to work ! |
| 17:46.25 | hello123 | please help me sir ! |
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| 17:49.03 | unitraxx | For FOSDEM, what exactly is expected from a gsoc organization during a possible timeslot? |
| 17:50.43 | tachyons | hello123, then search for an interesting open source project , and start contribution |
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| 17:57.30 | hello123 | tachyons , could u plss suggest me few ,good organisation to work wid ! |
| 17:58.00 | unitraxx | You should look for a organization based on interest |
| 17:58.06 | tachyons | hello123, that depends on your area of interest |
| 17:58.21 | tachyons | For Eg |
| 17:58.50 | tachyons | if you are interested in machine translation try apertium |
| 17:59.13 | hello123 | i am intrested in app devlopment |
| 17:59.23 | hello123 | may be , mobile or desktop |
| 17:59.38 | hello123 | so ? |
| 17:59.42 | unitraxx | And I advice you to use proper sentences and IRC etiquette. |
| 17:59.57 | hello123 | sorry unitraxx |
| 18:02.05 | hello123 | tachyons , getting involved in KDE ,? |
| 18:02.12 | hello123 | wil it be helpful |
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| 18:03.47 | Slurpee | Final days for GCI students... :( |
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| 18:09.35 | EgorMatirov | Slurpee: yeah :) |
| 18:10.39 | Slurpee | EgorMatirov, it was fun. |
| 18:10.43 | Slurpee | Time consuming, but I enjoyed it. |
| 18:10.45 | cdesai | It has been fun indeed |
| 18:10.59 | Slurpee | Lots of fun tasks completed for your org? |
| 18:11.10 | cdesai | yea, RTEMS |
| 18:11.13 | EgorMatirov | It's was very fun :) |
| 18:11.17 | cdesai | which org did you guys work on? |
| 18:11.20 | EgorMatirov | *It |
| 18:11.24 | Slurpee | drupal |
| 18:11.24 | EgorMatirov | KDE |
| 18:11.37 | cdesai | there's still time left |
| 18:11.54 | Slurpee | cdesai, I noticed lots of student work the past few days... |
| 18:11.58 | cdesai | working on one task, hoping to finish it under 20 hours |
| 18:12.20 | Slurpee | I just spent the past 3 hours reviewing tasks. Now we're caught up:) |
| 18:12.21 | cdesai | to get one final task :) |
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| 18:14.24 | cdesai | is a student :) |
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| 19:02.36 | Zeus1994 | Newbie here...lil help pls? |
| 19:02.52 | MatthewWilkes | Zeus1994: You'll need to ask a question to get help. |
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| 19:07.19 | Zeus1994 | clear |
| 19:08.13 | Zeus1994 | are there any prerequisites for gsoc? |
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| 19:13.04 | aka_ | can anybody help me with how to connect a client with a server using django? |
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| 19:17.19 | kblin | aka_: not sure this is the channel for such a question |
| 19:17.20 | Zeus1994 | wat do organisations look for in da application for being a member o da concerned project? |
| 19:17.27 | kblin | aka_: did you try #django? |
| 19:18.18 | aka_ | actually working on project for gsoc |
| 19:19.12 | aka_ | dont know how to be mentored |
| 19:19.19 | aka_ | my apologies |
| 19:21.40 | unitraxx | Zeus1994: aka_ : All needed information is on google-melange |
| 19:22.56 | aka_ | unitraxx: ok thanku :) |
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| 23:59.02 | bluedot951_ | hey! |
| 23:59.28 | bluedot951_ | I have a question about Google Code In... would this be the place to ask? |
| 23:59.36 | Darrel | sure, go ahead :) |