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| 03:02.18 | bluedot951_ | hi guys |
| 03:02.22 | bluedot951_ | I have a question |
| 03:02.26 | bluedot951_ | can anyone help please? |
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| 04:47.12 | incognito | Hey guys |
| 04:47.45 | incognito | can start contributing to projects of 2013? |
| 04:49.04 | incognito | Though we don't know the projects that are going to be announced in 2014, but should be many projects that are going to continue this year |
| 04:49.28 | incognito | Does anyone have idea about such projects? |
| 04:51.57 | olly | !orglist | incognito |
| 04:52.25 | olly | hmm, that's not the factoid |
| 04:52.46 | olly | incognito: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2013 |
| 04:52.59 | olly | those are the orgs from 2013 |
| 04:53.33 | incognito | but does all projects continue to on idea list of orgs? |
| 04:53.40 | incognito | *be |
| 04:53.49 | olly | bluedot951_: if you have a question, just ask it |
| 04:54.41 | olly | incognito: that's up to the orgs, but I suspect they typically will base 2014's ideas list on 2013's, less any ideas which were implemented since (either in gsoc or outside it) |
| 04:55.35 | incognito | yeah thanks |
| 04:55.43 | olly | you can also suggest your own ideas, though if they aren't aligned with what the org are trying to achieve, you're not likely to get considered |
| 04:58.02 | nacsurte | who pays the stipend, the organization or google? |
| 04:59.00 | olly | google (that's in the faq) |
| 05:00.06 | nacsurte | oh, i can't find it in there |
| 05:00.13 | nacsurte | just that you get paid one way or the other |
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| 05:00.44 | olly | nacsurte: "Google will provide a total stipend of 5500 USD per accepted student developer, of which 5000 USD goes to the student and 500 USD goes to the mentoring organization." |
| 05:01.03 | nacsurte | oh nice, everybody gets paid |
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| 06:27.15 | firespeaker | ilgiz: qayerdensiz? |
| 06:28.27 | firespeaker | Өфәҙә икәнсән.. |
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| 06:51.32 | ace_striker | firespeaker: english ? |
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| 07:16.18 | firespeaker | ace_striker: I'll address people in English when I prefer that they respond in English |
| 07:16.40 | ace_striker | point ? |
| 07:16.51 | firespeaker | I'm not sure... what was your point? |
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| 10:45.42 | VaticanCameos | Is this channel usually this quiet in the off-season? |
| 10:46.44 | gevaerts | Someone said something this morning. It's not *that* quiet |
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| 10:49.09 | gevaerts | is in channels where someone last said something in May 2012 :) |
| 10:50.39 | ace_striker | that's not true |
| 10:51.29 | gevaerts | It's not? |
| 10:56.29 | VaticanCameos | would like to know which channel became such a graveyard that the last reply was on May 2012 |
| 10:57.08 | VaticanCameos | thinks those channels should be renamed to "The Diogenes Club". |
| 10:57.10 | gevaerts | It's a restricted special-purpose one |
| 10:57.28 | gevaerts | And no, I'm not the only person in it :) |
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| 11:33.09 | aka_ | any good ideas for gsoc? |
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| 11:40.53 | kblin | apart from the suggestion to look for a project you care about that I had yesterday? no |
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| 13:34.52 | rnat | what is this review and ranking procedure done by the mentoring organizations ? |
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| 14:02.35 | d33tah | whoa, there's less people than last time i checked... a few months ago. |
| 14:02.38 | d33tah | any interesting news? |
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| 14:11.02 | VaticanCameos | Have there been any mentoring organizations that focus on infosec in the past? |
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| 14:20.49 | prudh | Hi,I`m new to the GSoC and i wish i could participate in it.But I donno how to start.Can someone please help me how to start and where to start. |
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| 14:37.03 | VaticanCameos | prudh: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 14:51.41 | gsocloveit | so there will be gsoc 2014 for sure? |
| 14:51.58 | VaticanCameos | gsocloveit: Why wouldn't there be? |
| 14:52.49 | gsocloveit | VaticanCameos: nice, well for last year's gsoc there was debate whether or not it will happen |
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| 14:55.19 | gsocloveit | I will start exploring topics now, but I assume with the new C++11 there will be lots of projects just for replacing old C++ code with new C++11 code, am I correct? At least that is what I expect. |
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| 15:22.38 | blast007 | gsocloveit: Just to be on the safe side, they always say that GSoC isn't sure to happen until it gets announced, but GSoC 2014 has already been announced. (see the topic) |
| 15:23.04 | gsocloveit | blast007: yes very happy to hear that |
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| 15:32.35 | d3r1ck_ | Hello there.. |
| 15:32.50 | d3r1ck_ | I am a new member of this channel and i need help pls |
| 15:33.45 | d3r1ck_ | i want to participate in gsoc and i need assistance |
| 15:33.48 | d3r1ck_ | pls |
| 15:34.10 | VaticanCameos | d3r1ck_: What help do you need? |
| 15:34.22 | VaticanCameos | gsocloveit: What blast007 said. |
| 15:34.33 | d3r1ck_ | i need to know how gsoc functions |
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| 15:34.50 | VaticanCameos | d3r1ck_: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 15:34.58 | VaticanCameos | Also google for the GSoc Wiki |
| 15:34.59 | d3r1ck_ | i took a look on those that participated last year and there were 177 of them |
| 15:35.07 | d3r1ck_ | i need some one to help me through |
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| 15:36.30 | blast007 | d3r1ck_: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 15:36.37 | thiago | d3r1ck_: help you with what? |
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| 15:38.52 | d3r1ck_ | thiago: help me on how to participate in gsoc |
| 15:39.23 | thiago | d3r1ck_: we're helping you |
| 15:39.29 | thiago | lots of documentation for you to read |
| 15:39.40 | thiago | if you have specific questions, ask |
| 15:41.17 | d3r1ck_ | ok, if i want to participate in gsoc, do i send my proposals b4 google accepts the organisations or what |
| 15:41.21 | blast007 | more specifically.. if you have questions *after* reading the available documentation, then ask here and we'd be more than happy to help :) |
| 15:41.30 | d3r1ck_ | cos i don't quit understand. |
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| 15:42.34 | VaticanCameos | d3r1ck_: Take a look at the timeline of events for GSoc. That should help. |
| 15:42.51 | VaticanCameos | Specifically, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 15:45.30 | gsocloveit | I heard there will be a whole wave of C++ projects this year for GSOC, lots of libraries need to update to C++11... any comments on this??? |
| 15:46.09 | thiago | gsocloveit: I don't expect there to be more C++ projects this year than last year or previous years |
| 15:46.12 | thiago | or fewer |
| 15:46.19 | thiago | it should be more or less about the same as every year |
| 15:47.03 | gsocloveit | thiago: yes but C++11 has lots of new changes, people would want their code updated |
| 15:47.29 | gevaerts | Why? |
| 15:47.51 | gevaerts | People don't go around migrating existing codebases to new spec versions in general |
| 15:47.53 | thiago | gsocloveit: yes, and so what? |
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| 15:50.39 | gsocloveit | thiago: well many people would want to keep their code fresh I suppose |
| 15:51.06 | mayankmadan | can anyone tell me about the gci tshirt sizes? |
| 15:51.15 | gevaerts | gsocloveit: Sounds like an excellent way to keep introducing subtle bugs all the time without any clear benefit |
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| 15:51.34 | thiago | gsocloveit: true. But why would GSoC 2014 be any different? C++11 has been out since Feb 2011. |
| 15:52.54 | gsocloveit | thiago: also true yeah, ok then lets see what happens :) |
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| 15:56.52 | blast007 | gsocloveit: additionally, C++11 support in GCC is still labeled as "experimental". http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html |
| 15:57.54 | gsocloveit | blast007: ah so much of my hopes for having a wave of C++ projects this year :( |
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| 16:00.11 | thiago | GCC 4.8.1 is feature-complete for C++11 language |
| 16:00.25 | blast007 | gsocloveit: granted, a project I'm part of did add a couple uses of C++0x/C++11 to our code to simplify/fix some code, but we didn't go willy nilly with it. |
| 16:00.31 | thiago | Clang 3.3 is also C++11 language complete; 3.4 is C++14 language complete |
| 16:01.11 | gsocloveit | thiago: isnt it early to talk about C++14 :D ? |
| 16:01.20 | thiago | gsocloveit: no |
| 16:01.27 | gsocloveit | it is implemented already? |
| 16:01.28 | thiago | it's been talked about for a few years now |
| 16:01.46 | gsocloveit | yes but only the language spec, not the compiler implementation |
| 16:01.53 | thiago | yes, Clang 3.4 has support for all proposed features; GCC 4.9 is almost there too. |
| 16:02.14 | thiago | if by "the compiler implementation", you mean "the library implementation", yes |
| 16:02.28 | gsocloveit | thiago: wow I am way behind things then! :D |
| 16:02.58 | thiago | there are discussions for C++17 already |
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| 16:04.04 | gsocloveit | thiago: ok stop it I will kill myself |
| 16:05.32 | pranavk | it must take alot of experience i guess to work for gcc under gsoc. |
| 16:05.51 | pranavk | gcc in itself is quite complex |
| 16:06.35 | pranavk | and it has a steep learning curve once you start getting things |
| 16:07.08 | thiago | pranavk: maybe, maybe not. It's true that gcc's codebase is more complex than, say, Clang's, but I don't think it's much harder from other projects. |
| 16:07.35 | gsocloveit | anyone has information how much money would I lose on taxes if I work for gsoc in Austria, and have full time job also? |
| 16:07.35 | thiago | if you wanted to participate in GSoC with a GCC project, you'd be advised to take a look at the code now and make modifications |
| 16:07.35 | thiago | that's the same recommendation we'd give for any other project |
| 16:09.51 | pranavk | thiago. yes, I am exploring various projects like firefox etc. |
| 16:09.57 | pranavk | these days |
| 16:13.13 | pranavk | thiago. Are you a gsoc 14 aspirer ? |
| 16:13.40 | d3r1ck_ | ok, i am back. |
| 16:13.52 | d3r1ck_ | How do i get a project to work on? |
| 16:13.54 | pranavk | or mentor ? |
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| 16:14.30 | pranavk | You get a list of projects on each org. page once orgs are selected. |
| 16:14.41 | thiago | pranavk: no |
| 16:15.17 | d3r1ck_ | so i need to wait for organisations to be selected b4 i choose a project? |
| 16:15.18 | thiago | was an org admin from 2005-2008 |
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| 16:15.24 | thiago | d3r1ck_: correct |
| 16:15.33 | d3r1ck_ | wow |
| 16:15.49 | d3r1ck_ | then what about the proposals students make |
| 16:16.01 | pranavk | okay, I see |
| 16:16.16 | d3r1ck_ | is it also after the selection of the organisations? |
| 16:16.29 | Ch3ck_ | d3r1ck_, what up? |
| 16:16.35 | pranavk | students make proposals either on the listed ideas or their new idea. |
| 16:16.39 | d3r1ck_ | well i am fine Ch3ck_ |
| 16:16.55 | echelon_ | hey Ch3ck |
| 16:16.57 | thiago | students make proposals to the organisations |
| 16:16.59 | Ch3ck_ | can see you're seriously into gsoc now good |
| 16:17.06 | Ch3ck_ | hey echelon_ what up? |
| 16:17.09 | thiago | you can't make proposals to organisations until there are organisations |
| 16:17.18 | pranavk | d3r1ck_ . yes it is after the org. selection |
| 16:17.24 | echelon_ | man needs that peper |
| 16:17.27 | Ch3ck_ | 24th Feb ... |
| 16:17.35 | Ch3ck_ | lol echelon_ understand perfectly |
| 16:17.41 | d3r1ck_ | ok, pls if you make a new idea, must it be selected b4 u work on it? |
| 16:17.46 | Ch3ck_ | Cameroon needs more than 50 GSoC participants this year |
| 16:18.00 | Ch3ck_ | d3r1ck_, yeah |
| 16:18.09 | pranavk | thiago. Which org. you were admin for ? |
| 16:18.14 | Ch3ck_ | you'll have to consult with them first get their thoughts on the project |
| 16:18.14 | echelon_ | when will the companies for the project be posted Ch3ck? |
| 16:18.15 | thiago | pranavk: KDE |
| 16:18.31 | thiago | echelon_: there are no companies. do you mean organisations? |
| 16:18.33 | Ch3ck_ | Ch3ck, As I said 24th Feb next month |
| 16:18.49 | Ch3ck_ | thiago, he means organizations |
| 16:18.56 | echelon_ | yes, thats what i meant. thanks thiago |
| 16:19.08 | gevaerts | d3r1ck_: by the way, you make a *much* better impression on organisations if you don't use weird abbreviations like "b4" and "u" |
| 16:19.48 | d3r1ck_ | ok i am sorry gevaerts |
| 16:19.59 | echelon_ | then when will the participants start submitting their proposals. |
| 16:20.04 | echelon_ | ? |
| 16:20.10 | d3r1ck_ | So Ch3ck, pls for instance!! |
| 16:20.24 | thiago | echelon_: take a look at the timeline page |
| 16:20.30 | d3r1ck_ | just give me the name of an organisation that needs coders in C |
| 16:20.45 | d3r1ck_ | Ch3ck_ |
| 16:20.54 | Ch3ck_ | well you could check that out from accepted projects here: |
| 16:21.01 | echelon_ | thats right, that what we can do well as for now |
| 16:21.11 | Ch3ck_ | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2013 |
| 16:21.21 | Ch3ck_ | d3r1ck_, these participated last year |
| 16:21.41 | Ch3ck_ | you could take a peek at the organizations by using the programming language as a filter |
| 16:21.55 | d3r1ck_ | cool, like gcc that Tim Shen and Martin Liska participated in Ch3ck_ |
| 16:22.05 | Ch3ck_ | echelon_, look at the link above and see what it was like last year |
| 16:22.24 | d3r1ck_ | i think i have seen that Ch3ck_ |
| 16:22.27 | Ch3ck_ | yeah d3r1ck_ well you could start working with them now |
| 16:22.28 | echelon_ | yap Ch3ck |
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| 16:22.43 | d3r1ck_ | are they here? |
| 16:23.21 | Ch3ck_ | who? d3r1ck_ gcc? |
| 16:23.34 | Ch3ck_ | me waves at chick_ |
| 16:23.34 | echelon_ | Ch3ck, seen it too. isn't there a way u can see organisations that will need C skill purposely |
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| 16:23.58 | Ch3ck_ | yeah search the organizations using C as a tag |
| 16:24.11 | Ch3ck_ | echelon_, can you do that? at the top of the page.. |
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| 16:29.58 | d3r1ck_ | Ch3ck_, how can i get in touch with Martin Liska? |
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| 16:33.24 | Ch3ck_ | mukete, mizushima what up? |
| 16:33.39 | d3r1ck_ | Ch3ck_, can u link me with Martin Liska? |
| 16:33.43 | d3r1ck_ | i need you help. |
| 16:34.35 | thiago | recommends using email |
| 16:35.50 | mukete | Ch3ck, |
| 16:35.54 | Ch3ck_ | well no idea, have you joined gcc's mailing list |
| 16:36.33 | Ch3ck_ | from the mailing list you could virtually find any active developer d3r1ck_ hope it helps ;) |
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| 16:37.00 | pranavk | martin liska is gcc developer, am i right ? |
| 16:37.28 | d3r1ck_ | yes pranavk |
| 16:37.32 | d3r1ck_ | you are correct |
| 16:37.32 | Ch3ck_ | yeah he is pranavk |
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| 16:40.28 | d3r1ck_ | pranavk: can u link me to Martin Liska? |
| 16:43.45 | pranavk | google him. |
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| 16:44.14 | pranavk | famous personalities always have their online presence spread throughout the internet |
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| 16:44.52 | thiago | d3r1ck_: why do you think we know who Martin Liska is? |
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| 16:45.19 | d3r1ck_ | well, he participated in gsoc last year |
| 16:45.21 | d3r1ck_ | 2013 |
| 16:45.26 | pranavk | Yup, |
| 16:45.32 | thiago | as a student? |
| 16:45.34 | pranavk | well there are many who participated |
| 16:45.37 | d3r1ck_ | and this is a gsoc channel |
| 16:45.38 | d3r1ck_ | yes |
| 16:45.44 | thiago | there were a thousand students |
| 16:45.47 | thiago | we don't know them all |
| 16:45.54 | d3r1ck_ | only two students worked on gcc |
| 16:46.00 | pranavk | we are not supposed.to know each 1300 of.them |
| 16:46.06 | thiago | did they send patches to the gcc mailing list? |
| 16:46.23 | d3r1ck_ | well but they were 177 accepted organisations |
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| 16:46.47 | thiago | none of us here are gcc admins or mentors |
| 16:46.50 | gevaerts | Yes. Guess what? We don't know all of those either |
| 16:46.54 | thiago | you should ask someone who is involved with gcc instead |
| 16:47.11 | thiago | anyway, have those students sent patches to gcc? |
| 16:47.51 | pranavk | d3r1ck_ . #gcc |
| 16:48.04 | d3r1ck_ | ok thanks |
| 16:48.57 | pranavk | you will find tons of gcc developers there. |
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| 16:51.51 | d3r1ck_ | pranavk: the channel says i can't send messages to it. |
| 16:51.59 | d3r1ck_ | i don't know why. |
| 16:52.28 | pranavk | you are not authorized I guess. You must be new to irc |
| 16:52.41 | pranavk | register your nick first with freenode |
| 16:52.59 | gevaerts | Are you trying to send messages to the channel, or did you join the channel and are you trying to speak? |
| 16:53.09 | gevaerts | Blocking the former is fairly common |
| 16:53.24 | Ch3ck_ | d3rick run this command "/msg nickserv register email@mm.net" |
| 16:53.59 | Ch3ck_ | well gevaerts has a point there d3r1ck_ what exactly happened? and you should be clear |
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| 17:00.10 | d3r1ck_ | when i send messages to the channel, the is a message that comes up to me that i can't send messages to the channle |
| 17:00.17 | d3r1ck_ | that is what happened |
| 17:00.34 | d3r1ck_ | i have registed my name long time ago |
| 17:00.58 | thiago | d3r1ck_: you're not identified to nickserv |
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| 17:02.34 | d3r1ck_ | ok i understand i am using d3r1ck_ instead of d3r1ck |
| 17:02.40 | d3r1ck_ | let me change it. |
| 17:04.40 | pranavk | or you can just add your this new nick to the nick group |
| 17:04.44 | pranavk | like an alias. |
| 17:05.57 | Ch3ck_ | well d3r1ck if you had subscribed to their mailing list all this will no longer be necessary |
| 17:06.32 | d3r1ck | ok |
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| 17:06.57 | d3r1ck | let me try that channel again, i have changed my nick and this one is registered |
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| 17:08.21 | d3r1ck | yes the messages are now going |
| 17:08.26 | d3r1ck | thanks |
| 17:10.54 | Ch3ck_ | good d3r1ck now you can find you treasure ;) |
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| 17:12.12 | d3r1ck | hahaha |
| 17:12.22 | d3r1ck | not far from the truth Ch3ck_ |
| 17:12.29 | Ch3ck_ | yup ;) |
| 17:12.40 | d3r1ck | Ch3ck_: if they only reply my messages. |
| 17:12.43 | Ch3ck_ | have you joined the mailing list? |
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| 17:12.50 | d3r1ck | yes i have |
| 17:12.58 | Ch3ck_ | they would if you ask politely and clearly |
| 17:12.59 | d3r1ck | Ch3ck_: i have. |
| 17:13.03 | Ch3ck_ | and be patient too |
| 17:13.21 | Ch3ck_ | then you good d3r1ck |
| 17:13.34 | d3r1ck | ok |
| 17:13.50 | d3r1ck | so when should i be expecting something from them? |
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| 17:14.04 | Ch3ck_ | no idea |
| 17:14.18 | d3r1ck | Ch3ck_: ok |
| 17:14.48 | d3r1ck | Ch3ck_: no one is responding to the messages that i am sending. |
| 17:14.57 | d3r1ck | what could possibly be the probelm |
| 17:15.10 | slurpee | gci is over :( |
| 17:16.05 | Ch3ck_ | lol yeah probably as slurpee says ;) |
| 17:16.35 | slurpee | As of earlier today, mentors can't make changes. |
| 17:18.09 | d3r1ck | Ch3ck_: so how can i get the gcc source, you told me to use svn |
| 17:18.28 | d3r1ck | are my supposed to download it from thier official website or what? |
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| 17:20.46 | d3r1ck | Ch3ck_: are u there? i am asking a question. |
| 17:21.24 | gevaerts | You're asking a question that's fairly clearly off-topic here |
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| 17:22.36 | d3r1ck | let me ask the question again: 17:18 < d3r1ck> Ch3ck_: so how can i get the gcc source, you told me to use svn |
| 17:22.39 | d3r1ck | 17:18 < d3r1ck> are my supposed to download it from thier official website or what? |
| 17:23.08 | d3r1ck | i am asking Ch3ck_ bcos he started explaining the things to me in school. |
| 17:23.10 | d3r1ck | that is why |
| 17:25.05 | Ch3ck_ | d3rick me this on ublab |
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| 17:25.26 | Ch3ck_ | here is gsoc related only as gevaerts said |
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| 17:26.33 | d3r1ck | ok Ch3ck_ |
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| 17:52.25 | bear | I'm looking for the spot where I can get registered as an Org Admin to start preparing for the new season. I'm searching the GSoC 2014 melange site but haven't found a link yet. |
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| 17:54.00 | echelon_ | bear try www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2014 |
| 17:54.51 | bear | "this page is inactive before 2014-04-21..." |
| 17:55.30 | echelon_ | hm |
| 17:56.02 | echelon_ | so bear we just need to wait up till that time. or is there any other link we can use? |
| 17:56.16 | Ch3ck_ | echelon_, that's the only link ;) |
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| 17:56.42 | bear | that is my question - last time I had to be registered as an org admin in order to submit the application |
| 17:56.48 | bear | so i'm looking for that process now |
| 17:58.53 | thiago | bear: you need to be an org admin to submit an org application |
| 17:59.06 | thiago | bear: you need to be registered as a student in order to submit a student application |
| 17:59.07 | bear | yes |
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| 17:59.34 | bear | and I'm looking for the spot to register our org and become an org admin |
| 17:59.35 | echelon_ | hey guys, just found out something aside. whats the meaning of Wine? |
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| 19:04.48 | nwinter | Hi! We just open-sourced our for-profit startup, CodeCombat, on Monday and a ton of people have jumped in already; one suggested he'd be interested to hack on it if it were in Google Summer of Code. Just wanted to ask if anyone knows whether CodeCombat might be a good fit for that? It's totally open-source and shaping up to be a community project, but we are for-profit, is why I ask. |
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| 19:07.40 | gevaerts | nwinter: I don't think it's necessarily a *bad* fit, but gsoc tends to look for *established* projects. From what you say, I suspect this one might be too early for you |
| 19:07.49 | JordiGH | Have any of you managed to attract contributors who approach you out of nowhere with GSoC interest by pointing them to your easy bug list? |
| 19:07.58 | gevaerts | I'd encourage you to try though |
| 19:08.13 | JordiGH | I'm getting very cynical that effort spent on pointing people to easy bug reports doesn't result in them becoming long-term contributors. |
| 19:08.30 | JordiGH | We're doing something very wrong for attracting people beyond GSoC. :-( |
| 19:09.31 | gevaerts | JordiGH: hard to say. I personally think (but I don't have much evidence) that attracting people with "generic" bugs is a weird idea. You need to grab them with bugs they personally care about |
| 19:10.48 | gevaerts | But then I also managed to sneak into the credits of some software without becoming a long term contributor, so it doesn't always work |
| 19:11.08 | gevaerts | It does mean I get the occasional email about using dia every few years though :) |
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| 19:12.25 | JordiGH | I've been telling people who come to me with requests for easy bug reports to first use the software until they find something they like and something they don't like about it. |
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| 19:13.21 | gevaerts | nods |
| 19:13.29 | JordiGH | I get grouchy when people ask how to get into Octave's code when they don't even seem to care about Octave in the first place. |
| 19:13.57 | nwinter | Presumably we would have better evidence of whether this is going to really become a good community project by Feb 14 |
| 19:14.11 | gevaerts | I also don't really believe in the idea of people becoming long-term (or even drive-by) contributors for software they don't actually *use* |
| 19:14.11 | nwinter | I wonder what kind of evidence would be required for GSoC to be interested. |
| 19:14.48 | gevaerts | nwinter: do you have contacts with other more established groups? If so, you can list them as references, and they can vouch for you |
| 19:15.15 | nwinter | That have done GSoC already, you mean? |
| 19:15.54 | gevaerts | Preferrably, yes, although I imagine a well-established open source group or person will carry some weight even without that |
| 19:17.06 | nwinter | We were talking with a dev evangelist at Mozilla who was really into the project when we launched in October |
| 19:17.13 | nwinter | I guess I'll ask him. |
| 19:17.34 | nwinter | We are much more connected in the startup scene than the open source scene so far unfortunately |
| 19:17.41 | nwinter | Trying to merge the two, as it were! |
| 19:19.56 | gevaerts | To be honest I suspect your chances will be low for this year, but applying anyway should help for next year, *and* you'll be able to get valuable feedback on your application so you don't make beginner mistakes next year |
| 19:20.28 | nwinter | Okay, thanks for letting me know |
| 19:20.31 | gevaerts | It can be a lot of work though. You need a decent ideas list, which may be hard to come up with |
| 19:20.53 | nwinter | Well, even if we don't use the ideas for GSoC, we still need them so our other open source contributors can do things |
| 19:21.02 | gevaerts | Yes and no |
| 19:21.24 | gevaerts | I mean, I suspect you probably want things with a slightly smaller scope for your other contributors |
| 19:21.40 | gevaerts | gsoc is 2+ months on one project |
| 19:22.10 | gevaerts | On the other hand, gsoc people can be reasonably inexperienced, which might compensate for that a bit |
| 19:23.32 | nwinter | Right, I see what you mean. It might be the same sorts of things we'd hire summer interns ourselves to do, though |
| 19:23.38 | gevaerts | Yes |
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| 19:41.20 | gsocloveit | when is the deadline for orgs to apply? |
| 19:43.41 | JordiGH | !timeline |
| 19:43.42 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
| 19:44.21 | JordiGH | Valentine's day, looks like. |
| 19:45.02 | meflin | that seems so .... soon |
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